From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 03:25:22 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 03:25:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA29649 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 03:25:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.07) with ESMTP id DAA06641; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 03:25:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA08722; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 03:23:56 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA23670 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 03:23:28 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with ESMTP id DAA05541 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 03:23:21 -0700 Received: from home.au.ac.th (root@home.au.ac.th [202.6.101.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.07) with ESMTP id DAA14247 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 03:23:12 -0700 Received: from au2.au.ac.th (g3939566@au2.au.ac.th [202.6.101.2]) by home.au.ac.th (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id RAA29545 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:22:57 +0700 (TST) Received: from localhost by au2.au.ac.th (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA18941; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:36:20 +0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:36:19 +0700 (TST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Somchai Lao* To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear sirs; I have some problem about my mail has some attchmnt.If i want to see my attchmnt,how i find that. The attchmnt has a code UUDECODE and tell me to find the file.Pls give me the way to reach the light.Thanks for your help. Regard, Somchai Lao From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 06:18:15 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA32380 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:18:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA09098; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:18:09 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA05274; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:16:51 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA13572 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:15:22 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA09676 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:15:21 -0700 Received: from ems.ncl.res.in ([202.54.11.129]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA16845 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:15:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (cata@localhost) by ems.ncl.res.in with SMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id SAA02117 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:46:53 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:46:52 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Division Of Catalysis, National Chemical Laboratory" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Complain of e-mail bouncing back MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: cata@ems X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sir, Today I had sent 2 messages through pine program.But both the mails had bounced back & while viewing what are the addresses something " MAILER-DAEMON" was printed & a warning message that the mails have bounced back was written.Please send me informing what went wrong actually & what should I do now?, to the below address mentioning "message to Ebenezer" in the subject.My address is, cata@ems.ncl.res.in ThankU. Yours' sincerely Ebenezer WE CATALYZE NOT ONLY CHEMISTRY, BUT ALSO SUCCESS ************************************************************************** Division Of Catalysis National Chemical Laboratory Pune - 8. 411 008. INDIA. Reply to: cata@ems.ncl.res.in *************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 06:25:15 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:25:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA00017 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:25:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA09219; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:25:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA15767; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:21:57 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA44406 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:21:12 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA15296 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:21:08 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17018; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:20:53 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 01 Oct 1997 15:20:52 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Problem In-Reply-To: Somchai Lao*'s message of "Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:36:19 +0700 (TST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Somchai Lao* X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "g" == g3939566 writes: g> Dear sirs; I have some problem about my mail has some attchmnt.If i g> want to see my attchmnt,how i find that. The attchmnt has a code g> UUDECODE and tell me to find the file. Pls give me the way to reach g> the light. Thanks for your help. You cannot "view" that attachment. You have to uudecode it first (get the tool from www.yahoo.com). To do this, export the message and do what the instructions say. Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. win-nt from the people who invented edlin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 06:27:02 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:27:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA00050 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA17038; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:26:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA16053; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:24:58 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA39962 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:24:12 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA26438 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 06:24:09 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA17025; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:23:42 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 01 Oct 1997 15:23:42 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: "message to Ebenezer" Re: Complain of e-mail bouncing back In-Reply-To: "Division Of Catalysis, National Chemical Laboratory"'s message of "Wed, 1 Oct 1997 18:46:52 +0530 (IST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Division Of Catalysis, National Chemical Laboratory" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "DOCNCL" == Division Of Catalysis, National Chemical Laboratory >> writes: DOCNCL> Sir, Today I had sent 2 messages through pine program.But DOCNCL> both the mails had bounced back & while viewing what are the DOCNCL> addresses something " MAILER-DAEMON" was printed & a warning DOCNCL> message that the mails have bounced back was written.Please DOCNCL> send me informing what went wrong actually & what should I do DOCNCL> now?, to the below address mentioning "message to Ebenezer" DOCNCL> in the subject. There is probably something wrong with either your local mail configuration or the address you sent the messages to. Probably the latter. Check e.g. to see if the addresses are in fact valid. Later, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Intel engineering seem to have misheard Intel marketing strategy. The phrase was "Divide and conquer" not "Divide and cock up" (Alan Cox) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 07:35:13 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:35:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA00535 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA10376; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:35:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA20194; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:32:25 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA31370 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:31:23 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA01925 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:31:21 -0700 Received: from infocom.etecsa.cu (mail.infocom.etecsa.cu [169.158.64.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA18031 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:31:11 -0700 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by infocom.etecsa.cu (8.8.6/8.8.6) id KAA03153 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:30:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from server2.in.etecsa.cu(10.158.234.5) via SMTP by mail.infocom.etecsa.cu, id smtpdAAAa000lF; Wed Oct 1 10:30:30 1997 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 10:30:29 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Asley Lugo Avila To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: I need some help! please read it <----- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: asley@server2.in.etecsa.cu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ---------- Forwarded message ---------- I'm using PINE 3.96 and i'm trying to restrict de access to de files out of user's home directory. For example: HomeDirectory: /u/users/ashley/ WorkDirectory: ~/work Ashley want to attach some file Attchmnt: /etc/passwd And the message "Attachments allowed only from //work" is showed. BUT !!! If she try with... Attchmnt: /u/users/ashley/work/../../../../../../../etc/passwd The things change... and she get the file. How can i do to solve this problem? Regards Asley Lugo Avila Pd:Excuse my English.... :-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 07:43:05 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:43:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA00323 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA18218; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:43:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA20681; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:40:32 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA15896 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:40:00 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA21404 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:39:55 -0700 Received: from ems.ncl.res.in ([202.54.11.129]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA10456 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 07:39:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (cata@localhost) by ems.ncl.res.in with SMTP (8.7.1/8.7.1) id UAA01660 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:10:38 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:10:38 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Division Of Catalysis, National Chemical Laboratory" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Return reply to U're reply regarding mail bounce-back MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: cata@ems X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sir, Iam Ebenezer.Received U're(Mr.Robin) reply regarding my complaint of mail bounce back in U're pine program.I had forgotten to mention along with the display of" MAILER-DAEMON".When I wanted to view the message after I came to know that the mails had bounced back (i.e., when I had given the command "mailx" to check any incoming mail) the monitor displayed the following, " Message contains data in an unrecognised format which can either be viewed as text or written to a file". Surprisingly, this message was followed by a query-"Whether I want to do any of the following 1)View the message as text? 2)Want to write it to a file? 3)Just skip it? " I was able to do all 1,2&3.Please enlighten me on this & tell me what to do? As U had adviced me I had checked the addresses , they are correct.Apart from that other's mail haven't bounced back indicating that the local server is proper. Reply soon. My E-mail address is(Please address as" message to Ebenezer") cata@ems.ncl.res.in Bye Ebenezer WE CATALYZE NOT ONLY CHEMISTRY, BUT ALSO SUCCESS ************************************************************************** Division Of Catalysis National Chemical Laboratory Pune - 8. 411 008. INDIA. Reply to: cata@ems.ncl.res.in *************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 09:24:56 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA02453 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:24:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA13116; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:24:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA29797; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:22:47 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA52728 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:21:48 -0700 Received: from vaxdsk.mrs.umn.edu (vaxdsk.mrs.umn.edu [146.57.4.14]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA13783 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 09:21:44 -0700 Received: from 146.57.203.6 (146.57.203.6) by CAA.MRS.UMN.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #10452) id <01IOAH4Z0DWG8Y6SN9@CAA.MRS.UMN.EDU> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:21:24 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <34327881.A3BBC22A@CAA.MRS.UMN.EDU> Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:21:21 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "kevin a. parendo" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: vms email forwarding MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Envelope-to: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I read messages about forwarding mail by creating a file called ".forward" for UNIX systems, which works when I use that for my unix system to transfer email to the vms server. However, I would like to do just the opposite: forward my email from my vms to my unix account. I am unsure about how to accomplish this. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. kevin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 11:24:13 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 11:24:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA04918 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 11:24:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA24015; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 11:24:06 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA24899; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 11:19:44 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA43704 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 11:16:25 -0700 Received: from aurora.matt.cs.purdue.edu (simmonmt@pal-il5-03.ix.netcom.com [206.214.150.67]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA16621 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 11:16:19 -0700 Received: (from simmonmt@localhost) by aurora.matt.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA00806; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:15:05 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: 01 Oct 1997 05:56:10 -0500 Reply-To: simmonmt@acm.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matt Simmons To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: binhex 4.0 In-Reply-To: Laughing out loud's message of "Tue, 30 Sep 1997 20:40:02 -0700 (PDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Laughing out loud X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://www.netcom.com/~simmonmt X-Face: 8o(]$-^DKYGsZ`]w writes: > On 30 Sep 1997, Matt Simmons wrote: > > Netgaurd7@aol.com writes: > > > how do i use binhex 4.0 , there are some files on the internet > > > that i saw and it said they must be converted with binhex 4.0, > > > so i downloaded it bu t i dont know how to use it, please tell > > > me how, email me soon, bye > > Buy a Mac. Someday all will see the light. > Someday all will see their stock plummet and wonder what they'll do with > their obsolete toys. Well, my stock has long since plummeted from its almost forgotten height ov over $60/share, and I've realized that if I drill a hole through the handle-thing on the top of my Classic II, I can thread a cable through it and use it as a boat anchor. What do I win? Matt -- Matt Simmons - simmonmt@acm.org - http://www.netcom.com/~simmonmt Writing about music is like dancing about architecture. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 12:28:05 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA29062 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:28:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA17983; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:28:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA14967; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:22:44 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA41890 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:21:46 -0700 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA05508 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 12:21:44 -0700 Received: from indy4 (pfarabee@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA11688 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:21:02 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:21:11 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: vms email forwarding In-Reply-To: <34327881.A3BBC22A@CAA.MRS.UMN.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, kevin a. parendo wrote: > I read messages about forwarding mail by creating a file called > ".forward" for UNIX systems, which works when I use that for my unix > system to transfer email to the vms server. However, I would like to do > just the opposite: forward my email from my vms to my unix account. I Oh boy.. s'been a while. I think you need to go into vms mail and type "set forward=blah" but it's been a loooong time :) If you need to include the po%"blah@blah.com" format then do so.. so supposedly, the command is: set forward=po%"blah@blah.com" or something else appropriate. Or possibly I am totally wrong :) Pat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 14:06:31 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:06:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA09032 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA20508; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:06:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA09235; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:00:52 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA52748 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:58:40 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA03966 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:58:35 -0700 Received: from minervaux.fciencias.unam.mx (minervaux.fciencias.unam.mx [132.248.133.226]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA20289; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 13:58:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (hpje@localhost) by minervaux.fciencias.unam.mx (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA07581; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:59:36 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:59:34 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: Julio Hernandez Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Julio Hernandez To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: I need some help... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN --------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:53:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Julio Hernandez To: Pine Developers Subject: I need some help... Hi. I'm writting you this mail because I have a little problem. My INBOX folder is READONLY, I don't know why. Two days ago I had some problems with a computer, so I decided to move to another. I was Taking an address when the problems bagan. I couldn't do anything else, so I start another computer and opened Pine. So, I had the same screen in two computers. Then, I just turned off the first one. I continued working normally on the other. Yesterday I came to check my email and it then I tried to delete some emails from the INBOX folder, and then I realized that it was now a READONLY folder. Today I tried to delete them again, but it remains readonly. Before yesterday, i had never had this problem, there was no problem with the delete command nor the INBOX. I looked out at the "HELP", but I could not find anything that tells me how to fix it up. Please help me, the INBOX folder is getting filled up. Thanks Julio Hernandez From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 15:01:43 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA10238 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:01:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA29669; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:01:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA14234; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:57:34 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA44148 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:56:41 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA23619 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 14:56:39 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 01 Oct 97 23:56:24 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA05313; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 23:21:43 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 01 Oct 1997 23:21:42 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: I need some help... In-Reply-To: Julio Hernandez's message of "Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:59:34 -0500 (CDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Julio Hernandez X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Face: &WMDIKMl#6=&B#c%G<(2x8CKd@G^\]HJ2Hot][?IxWzO.G1'6dvF?57ny9>~> "JH" == Julio Hernandez writes: JH> My INBOX folder is READONLY, I don't know why. Because pine has created a lock on your inbox when you started a second session of pine. Say: ps ax | grep pine and then kill the processes. Alternately, say "jobs" and get the ones you don't need into the foreground (fg). "man bash" will reveal all about those two commands. To learn more about pine's lockfiles, go here: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/user.guide/node74.html Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha, M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University GMC d++ s+: a- C++ UL++ P++$>+++$ L++$>+++$ E+++ W-- N++ w--- O- M-- V-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++ t++ 5-- X-- tv++ b+++ DI++ D+ g e++ h r++ y+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 16:47:22 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:47:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA12672 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:47:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA24706; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:47:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA07059; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:43:53 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA16520 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:42:54 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA05075 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 16:42:48 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 07:41:10 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 07:41:10 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Return reply to U're reply regarding mail bounce-back In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: message to Ebenezer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Division Of Catalysis, National Chemical Laboratory wrote: > Iam Ebenezer.Received U're(Mr.Robin) reply regarding my complaint of mail > bounce back in U're pine program.I had forgotten to mention along with the > display of" MAILER-DAEMON".When I wanted to view the message after I came > to know that the mails had bounced back (i.e., when I had given the > command "mailx" to check any incoming mail) the monitor displayed the > following, > " Message contains data in an unrecognised format which can either be > viewed as text or written to a file". Surprisingly, this message was > followed by a query-"Whether I want to do any of the following > 1)View the message as text? > 2)Want to write it to a file? > 3)Just skip it? " First, it sounds as if your "mailx" program has been integrated with metamail and that it has certain attachment types for which a mailcap entry does not exist. > > I was able to do all 1,2&3.Please enlighten me on > this & tell me what to do? > As U had adviced me I had checked the addresses , they > are correct.Apart from that other's mail haven't bounced back indicating > that the local server is proper. It would be most helpful if we knew the full text of the message issued by the Mailer Daemon. As Robin mentioned, it is probably either a local configuration problem or a problem with the email address. You could send me (or ask Robin) to check the email address for you. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Oct 1 17:22:08 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:22:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA12292 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA25762; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:22:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA09640; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:19:18 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA29494 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:17:31 -0700 Received: from franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (root@franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us [207.10.97.70]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA08472 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 17:17:28 -0700 Received: from franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (501@franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us [207.10.97.70]) by franklin.icsd.k12.ny.us (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id UAA23567; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:26:42 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 20:26:42 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: William Mahler To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: vms email forwarding In-Reply-To: <34327881.A3BBC22A@CAA.MRS.UMN.EDU> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "kevin a. parendo" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I know the answer to this one!. You need to use the set forward command. It looks something like this set forward """smtp%username@machinename.domainname"""" Now you enter this command from the VMS Mail Prompt. It cannot as far as I know be done from within pine. This is also the format if you site is using Mulitnet as the smtp/telnet/ftp client/server. Since you are from a edu site You may be running Dec version of the smtp/telnet/ftp server. Check with you helpdesk or your system manager for the exact format of the command. You may or may not need the triple double quotes. Cannot remember the reason we used this format it may have been the software version syyntax at the time. On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, kevin a. parendo wrote: > Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:21:21 -0500 > From: "kevin a. parendo" > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: vms email forwarding > > I read messages about forwarding mail by creating a file called > ".forward" for UNIX systems, which works when I use that for my unix > system to transfer email to the vms server. However, I would like to do > just the opposite: forward my email from my vms to my unix account. I > am unsure about how to accomplish this. Any suggestions would be > greatly appreciated. > > kevin > > William R. Mahler Ithaca City School District Ithaca, New York 14850 e-mail wmahler@icsd.k12.ny.us Voice (607) 274-6802 Helpline (607) 274-6800 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Oct 2 02:34:34 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 02:34:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA19140 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 02:34:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA10751; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 02:34:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA04551; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 02:32:59 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA31126 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 02:32:25 -0700 Received: from news.skyinet.net (NEWS.SKYINET.NET [206.101.197.231]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA13429 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 02:32:23 -0700 Received: from digicron.com (P56.MB01.QZN.SKYINET.NET [207.2.4.56]) by news.skyinet.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA10476 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 17:32:20 +0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3433DC78.C6E697B9@digicron.com> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 15:40:09 -0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "." To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: unsub MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i've learned a lot from this list but it's time to unsub. someone remove my address please. thanks and sorry to bother. figment@digicron.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Oct 2 06:30:45 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 06:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA18095 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 06:30:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA13720; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 06:30:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA24737; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 06:26:03 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA49130 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 06:23:31 -0700 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA08320 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 06:23:29 -0700 Received: from indy4 (pfarabee@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA13051 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:22:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 08:22:55 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: vms email forwarding In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, William Mahler wrote: > I know the answer to this one!. > You need to use the set forward command. It looks something like this > set forward """smtp%username@machinename.domainname"""" Yup, I remember it now :) I was close, I guess. > the command. You may or may not need the triple double quotes. Cannot > remember the reason we used this format it may have been the software > version syyntax at the time. In VMS, double-double quotes is the way to denote a quotation mark in a string. so: 'write device "I said ""hello"""' would print 'I said "hello"' to the specified device. I think the mail needs the double quotes as part of the email address itself, hence the doublequotes at the begining to denote a string, then the double-double quotes to make the doublequotes contained in the string. It's all very complicated, which is one reason IU got rid of their VMS-based machines :) Pat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Oct 2 09:12:58 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:12:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA25496 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09629; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:12:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA23958; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:10:43 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA38386 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:08:08 -0700 Received: from chsun.eunet.ch (chsun.eunet.ch [146.228.10.15]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA17256 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:08:03 -0700 Received: from gdc by chsun.eunet.ch (8.8.6/1.34) id QAA15383; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:08:10 GMT Received: from pc38 by gdc (4.1/SMI-4.1/1.1) id AA12186; Thu, 2 Oct 97 17:08:45 +0100 Message-Id: <3433D517.4925@aspa.ch> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 18:08:39 +0100 Reply-To: llarden@aspa.ch Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jaume Llarden Prieto To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: What does HQX stand for? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've learnt some time ago about the BinHex format. I've been looking for information about the standard, but nowhere is commented why the extension is HQX. (Only in the help file an old version of xbin for UNIX I found that "BinHex usually has the extensions .hex, .hcx or hqx", making a kind of difference between them). Thank you very much Jaume Llarden From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Oct 2 10:02:29 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:02:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA24230 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA18198; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:02:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA28052; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:59:50 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA22530 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:58:51 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00219 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:58:49 -0700 Received: from tiger.lsu.edu (tiger2.ocs.lsu.edu [130.39.174.44]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA18095 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:58:44 -0700 Received: from localhost by tiger.lsu.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA99496; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:59:19 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:59:19 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Watson James Anonetapipat To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: foward Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just wanted to know if pine is able to forward e-mail to another account without getting on. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Oct 2 10:58:05 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:58:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA27562 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:58:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA12562; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:57:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA14629; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:54:02 -0700 Resent-Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:54:02 -0700 Resent-Message-Id: <199710021754.KAA14629@lists3.u.washington.edu> Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA13712 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:52:13 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA06796 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:52:09 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA19551 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:52:06 -0700 Received: from piney_cac (D-128-95-135-222.dhcp.washington.edu [128.95.135.222]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA12338 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 10:52:01 -0700 Message-Id: <3433CE22.7128@rvcc.raritanval.edu> Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 12:38:58 -0400 Reply-To: Hpsteve@worldnet.att.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Stevenson To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Domain Names Resent-To: Pine Info Mailing List Resent-Sender: dlm@shivams.cac.washington.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-From: "David L. Miller" X-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: Hpsteve@worldnet.att.net X-Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for dlm+postmaster; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:38:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by tupperware.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00325 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:38:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA10419 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 09:38:31 -0700 X-Received: from rvcc by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: rvcc.raritanval.edu [192.231.207.108]) id QQdjnu26993; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:38:36 -0400 (EDT) X-Received: from N320a.raritanval.edu by rvcc (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA27968; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:34:20 -0400 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN .gov = government .edu = educational institution .. Where can I find what each extension stand for (e.g., .net =? ; .org =?,etc)? Steve Stevenson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Oct 2 11:09:01 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:09:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA01186 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12869; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:08:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA48498; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:05:50 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA42272 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:04:06 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA00994 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:04:04 -0700 Received: from cc.fc.ul.pt (kernel.cc.fc.ul.pt [194.117.4.98]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA12725 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:03:58 -0700 Received: from fc.ul.pt by cc.fc.ul.pt (SMI-8.6/4.03) id TAA15453; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:02:38 +0100 Received: from localhost (jmmsa@localhost) by fc.ul.pt (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA06840 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:02:44 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:02:44 +0100 (WET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jose Sieuve Afonso To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Not really a sugestion... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It's a question. I have a ordinary pc at home with no internet conncetion whatsoever. Why should I want to use pine? Well, my sent-mail get really big after some months and I usually take them home and store them. It's no fun to use a ordinary text editor, I want to use the mail program I'm currently using, pine. I tryed to install the pcp_w16.zip and it complain abouth rhe winsocket .dll, needless to say, I don't have those libraries installed. Should I install it? And will it work then? Is there any 'fake-pine' that can be use only to see msgs? Later, Miguel Afonso From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Oct 2 11:13:12 1997 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA24840 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA20184; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:13:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA03708; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:08:47 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA17896 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:08:07 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA21754 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:08:02 -0700 Received: from acs.brockport.edu (root@stingray.acs.Brockport.EDU [137.21.166.240]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA12852 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:07:58 -0700 Received: from starfish.acs.brockport.edu by acs.brockport.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI(bkpt5)) id OAA14086; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 14:08:13 -0400 Received: from squid by starfish.acs.brockport.edu (SMI-8.6/Brockport-1a) id OAA11340; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 14:07:54 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 13:59:24 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chris Abotchi To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sending a report from a diskette using pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: cabotchi@squid X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir, I am a new pine user. Thanks for an excellent program! But I have been wondering whether I could transmit a research report from a diskette or hard disk using Pine? If this is possible, could you please give directions? Many thanks! Dr. Chris Abotchie. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA29513 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:18:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA22055; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:18:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA09203; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:15:32 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA54230 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:14:40 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA16526 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:14:37 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 02 Oct 97 21:14:22 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA11303; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:53:44 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 02 Oct 1997 20:53:44 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Sending a report from a diskette using pine In-Reply-To: Chris Abotchi's message of "Thu, 2 Oct 1997 13:59:24 -0400 (EDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chris Abotchi X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Face: &WMDIKMl#6=&B#c%G<(2x8CKd@G^\]HJ2Hot][?IxWzO.G1'6dvF?57ny9>~> Chris Abotchi writes: CA> Dear Sir, I am a new pine user. Thanks for an excellent program! CA> But I have been wondering whether I could transmit a research CA> report from a diskette or hard disk using Pine? If this is CA> possible, could you please give directions? Try this:[1] http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/ user.guide/node18.html#SECTION00372400000000000000 HTH, Robin Footnotes: [1] That's *one* line.... -- Robin S. Socha, M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Free Software: Contribute nothing, expect nothing From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA29470 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA22119; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:19:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA21534; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:16:44 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA44514 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:14:45 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA29602 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:14:42 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 02 Oct 97 21:14:27 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA11254; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:45:14 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 02 Oct 1997 20:45:13 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: foward In-Reply-To: Watson James Anonetapipat's message of "Thu, 2 Oct 1997 11:59:19 -0500 (CDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Watson James Anonetapipat X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Face: &WMDIKMl#6=&B#c%G<(2x8CKd@G^\]HJ2Hot][?IxWzO.G1'6dvF?57ny9>~> "WJA" == Watson James Anonetapipat >> writes: WJA> I just wanted to know if pine is able to forward e-mail to WJA> another account without getting on. Absolutely. Just recompile like this: ./configure --with-read-faq --with-consult-dejanews Strangely enough, this isn't in the faq yet. Hope that helps... Later, Robin -- Robin S. Socha, M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University GMC d++ s+: a- C++ UL++ P++$>+++$ L++$>+++$ E+++ W-- N++ w--- O- M-- V-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++ t++ 5-- X-- tv++ b+++ DI++ D+ g e++ h r++ y+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:20:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA29388 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:20:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA22122; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:20:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA21599; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:17:36 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA28906 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:14:47 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA13299 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 12:14:44 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 02 Oct 97 21:14:29 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id UAA11289; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 20:50:56 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 02 Oct 1997 20:50:55 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Not really a sugestion... In-Reply-To: Jose Sieuve Afonso's message of "Thu, 2 Oct 1997 19:02:44 +0100 (WET DST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jose Sieuve Afonso X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Face: &WMDIKMl#6=&B#c%G<(2x8CKd@G^\]HJ2Hot][?IxWzO.G1'6dvF?57ny9>~> "JSA" == Jose Sieuve Afonso writes: JSA> Well, my sent-mail get really big after some months and I usually JSA> take them home and store them. It's no fun to use a ordinary text JSA> editor, I want to use the mail program I'm currently using, pine. JSA> Is there any 'fake-pine' that can be use only to see msgs? Later, Ok, here's an entirely different approach: See if you have mhonarc on your u*ix host. Run it on your mailfolders. This way, you'll get a browsable, searchable html-version of your mail. I find this program extremely sexy, because I have my own webserver and glimpsehttp. Later, Robin -- Robin S. Socha, M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Masochist: Windows programmer with a smile! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:18:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA01870 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:18:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA27911; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:17:56 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA40298; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:15:54 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA47468 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:12:40 -0700 Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA04397 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:12:34 -0700 Received: from slip-3 [207.171.193.17] (batchman) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.62 #4) id 0xGuQ3-0001qp-00; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:12:31 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 16:12:31 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Lost in Space Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lost in Space To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: foward In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: batchman@slip-3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 2 Oct 1997, Watson James Anonetapipat wrote: > I just wanted to know if pine is able to forward e-mail to another account > without getting on. Pine can't do that, but your system is probably already set up to forward mail if you set it up. Try this: Go to the directory where you are when you first log in, and create a file called '.forward' -- that's forward with a dot at the front of it. In the file, type a single line which contains nothing more than your other address. For example, if your other address was watson@elsewhere.net, the line would look like this: watson@elsewhere.net If you want to have it forward the messages to that address, but save a copy at the first address, it would look like this: \wanonet, watson@elsewhere.net Be sure to include the \ at the beginning of the first username. Hope that helps. Greg batchman@slip.net <-- The *real* address From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:21:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA04125 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:21:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA23308; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:21:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA17574; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:20:12 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA49192 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:18:59 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA24562 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:18:56 -0700 Received: from grex.cyberspace.org (grex.cyberspace.org [152.160.30.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id SAA23262 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:18:51 -0700 Received: from localhost (rohittn@localhost) by grex.cyberspace.org (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id VAA11916 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:17:49 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Rohit T Nayak To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: REQUEST MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sir, Please guide me in viewing the zipped or compressed messages. I would like to know how to unzip or unpack the mail and then view it. Looking forward for your reply. Thanking you, Rohit . From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA06410 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA26207; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:39:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA27311; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:38:17 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA08746 for ; Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:37:10 -0700 Received: from emout02.mail.aol.com (emout02.mx.aol.com 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Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: downloading your program In-Reply-To: A1Granny@aol.com's message of "Fri, 3 Oct 1997 00:36:34 -0400 (EDT)" References: <971003003540_171957532@emout02.mail.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: A1Granny@aol.com X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Face: &WMDIKMl#6=&B#c%G<(2x8CKd@G^\]HJ2Hot][?IxWzO.G1'6dvF?57ny9>~ Lines: 21 >> "A" == A1Granny writes: A> i go to diablo collage, and was told that i could download your A> e-mail porgram. please tell me how to do it Source distribution: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z So, get yourself an ftp program if you don't already have one, and get the README too, that's in that directory. Follow the instructions. Should work like a charm. Later, Robin -- Robin S. Socha, M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Windows NT - How to make a 100 MIPS Linux workstation perform like an 8 MHz 286 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA12884 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA03485; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:30:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA16759; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:27:54 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA49182 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:26:17 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA02195 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:26:16 -0700 Received: from mail.virginia.edu (mail.Virginia.EDU [128.143.2.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id HAA03382 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 07:26:11 -0700 Received: from avery.med.virginia.edu by mail.virginia.edu id aa08134; 3 Oct 97 10:26 EDT Received: from localhost (ajg3x@localhost) by avery.med.Virginia.EDU (8.8.5/8.6.6) with SMTP id KAA34024 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:26:06 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 10:26:05 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Anthony J Greene To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Request Reciept Confirmation? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Many mail programs have an option for requesting a confirmation of reciept. Sort of like sending a registered letter, you get to see when your e-mail was read. This can be very handy. Is there such a feature in Pine, and if so, how does one use it? Thanks %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Anthony J Greene, PhD ajg3x@avery.med.virginia.edu Department of Neurosurgery (804) 924-0356 HSC Box 420 University of Virginia Charlottesville, VA 22908 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:22:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA13999 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:22:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA11817; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:22:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA08574; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:20:35 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA31162 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:19:46 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA01209 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:19:44 -0700 Received: from hkusua.hku.hk (hkusua.hku.hk [147.8.2.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA11783 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 08:19:30 -0700 Received: from localhost by hkusua.hku.hk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA12747; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:17:34 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:17:33 +0800 (HKT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chan Chia Chieh Orlando To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN my problem right now with the account is that when i type in "pine" i see a message that says "trying to get mailbox locked at 18180" the number at the end varies and changes everytime i login. this just started happening today. and i have been having problems sending mails out. please kindly tell me what to do. Orlando hong kong university From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA11400 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:06:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA12348; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:06:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA11848; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:03:21 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA47394 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:02:29 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA27169 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:02:27 -0700 Received: from w3.ci.chi.il.us (www.ci.chi.il.us [199.177.48.72]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA19583 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 13:02:04 -0700 Received: from kkeim.dc01.ci.chi.il.us by w3.ci.chi.il.us (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA21050; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:25:56 -0500 Message-Id: <343548BE.5E73@ci.chi.il.us> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 14:34:22 -0500 Reply-To: kkeim@ci.chi.il.us Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Keim To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: munpack MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I could use a version of munpack for dos. Thanks Ken From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:19:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA24774 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:19:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA23003; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 15:19:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA21231; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:56:45 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA53682 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:55:56 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA26913 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 14:55:52 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 03 Oct 97 23:55:37 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA20021; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 23:41:22 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 03 Oct 1997 23:41:21 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: munpack In-Reply-To: Ken Keim's message of "Fri, 03 Oct 1997 14:34:22 -0500" References: <343548BE.5E73@ci.chi.il.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: kkeim@ci.chi.il.us X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "KK" == Ken Keim writes: KK> I could use a version of munpack for dos. Ok, Ken, this is *exactly* the right place to ask this question. The canonical site for this program is: Hope that helps, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. The spaceship shuddered. Captain Wilson saw his navigator cringing from a suddenly blue screen. Damn it. If they survived this, a certain Redmond, USA, earth would find itself in hot plasma... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA27151 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA26072; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:45:42 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA21996; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:44:01 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA09004 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:42:59 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA25431 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:42:57 -0700 Received: from netserv.hvcc.edu (netserv.hvcc.edu [151.103.16.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA18776 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:42:55 -0700 Received: from academ.hvcc.edu by netserv.hvcc.edu with SMTP (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/25-eef) id AA31482; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:42:54 -0400 Received: from localhost by academ.hvcc.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/1.00) id AA34710; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:42:53 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:42:53 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: "Sean P. Ingles" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sean P. Ingles" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Bug Report Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I've noticed that when I want to select more than one receipent for a message using the address book's "select" feature, That is does not put the selections in the "To:" heading. I put an "X" by all the names but it does not put then in the message. I wind up having to manually type in the addresses separated by commas. Any help that can be provided will be greatly appreciated! Thank You! -= Sean P. Ingles =- si270450@hvcc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA27135 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA18839; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:47:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA01650; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:45:08 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA13086 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:44:21 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA07118 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:44:20 -0700 Received: from netserv.hvcc.edu (netserv.hvcc.edu [151.103.16.12]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA26053 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 17:44:17 -0700 Received: from academ.hvcc.edu by netserv.hvcc.edu with SMTP (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/25-eef) id AA40038; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:44:16 -0400 Received: from localhost by academ.hvcc.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/1.00) id AA59800; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:44:15 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:44:15 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sean P. Ingles" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Bug Report (fwd) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I forgot to add I am using PINE v3.95 for UNIX (AIX) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 20:42:53 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sean P. Ingles" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug Report Hello, I've noticed that when I want to select more than one receipent for a message using the address book's "select" feature, That is does not put the selections in the "To:" heading. I put an "X" by all the names but it does not put then in the message. I wind up having to manually type in the addresses separated by commas. Any help that can be provided will be greatly appreciated! Thank You! -= Sean P. Ingles =- si270450@hvcc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:48:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA28239 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA27739; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:48:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA26995; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:47:16 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA34324 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:46:48 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA02768 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:46:47 -0700 Received: from mail.mlynk.com ([208.223.227.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA27694 for ; Fri, 3 Oct 1997 19:46:40 -0700 Received: from LOCALNAME (208.223.227.113) by mail.mlynk.com (Rockliffe SMTPRA 1.2.2) with SMTP id ; Fri, 03 Oct 1997 22:44:51 -0400 Message-Id: <3435DA7A.57EF@mail.mlynk.com> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 22:56:10 -0700 Reply-To: areichel@mlynk.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Al Reichel To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: fuck you MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hgjhgf djh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:22:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA08830 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:22:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA07279; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:22:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA03675; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:21:29 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA18916 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:19:42 -0700 Received: from ibm.MtSAC.edu (SMTP2@ibm.mtsac.edu [140.144.201.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA07913 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:19:41 -0700 Received: from default by ibm.MtSAC.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R4) with TCP; Sat, 04 Oct 97 19:22:56 PDT Message-Id: <3436FB41.644F@ibm.mtsac.edu> Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 19:28:17 -0700 Reply-To: 4net5208@ibm.mtsac.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: CHERI DENNISTON <4net5208@ibm.mtsac.edu> To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ms-tnef attachments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Help, I received a e mail message that contained a MS-TNEF attachement. What is the file type, and how do I view it? Thank you, Cheri 4net5208@ibm.mtsac.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA08689 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA07335; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:29:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA15774; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:27:49 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA16888 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:27:01 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA15306 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:26:59 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 05 Oct 97 04:26:44 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA08140; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 04:23:40 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 05 Oct 1997 04:23:37 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: ms-tnef attachments In-Reply-To: CHERI DENNISTON's message of "Sat, 04 Oct 1997 19:28:17 -0700" References: <3436FB41.644F@ibm.mtsac.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: 4net5208@ibm.mtsac.edu X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "CD" == CHERI DENNISTON <4net5208@ibm.mtsac.edu> writes: CD> Help, I received a e mail message that contained a MS-TNEF CD> attachement. CD> What is the file type, and how do I view it? *aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!* -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University begin 644 asdf.uue E22!C86XG="!B96QI979E('Eo=2=R92!R96%D:6YG('1H:7,A"O_] end From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA01146 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:00:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA07673; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:00:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA04734; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:59:02 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA47510 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:58:34 -0700 Received: from thewall.harding.edu (thewall.harding.edu [192.133.129.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id TAA29428 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 19:58:33 -0700 Received: from piggy.harding.edu by thewall.harding.edu via smtpd (for mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) with SMTP; 5 Oct 1997 02:59:41 UT Received: from taz.harding.edu by Harding.edu (PMDF V5.1-8 #24418) with SMTP id <01IOFA9X3VH08ZDVB2@Harding.edu> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:58:31 CDT Received: from localhost by taz.harding.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA05732; Sat, 04 Oct 1997 22:04:18 +0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 22:04:18 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Elijah Manor To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: read-only address book MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: etmanor@taz X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i ran into a strange problem the other day. a friend of mine has a read-only address book. it hasnt always been that way. he didnt have any other instances of pine open & i checked the read/write/exe/del protection on his address_book. everything seemed to check out fine. we ftp'ed another address_book and replaced his old one just to see if we could fix the problem, but to no avail. his address book has been read-only since then. nothing else seems to be read-only, just his address book. i told him i would try to find out howto fix his problem. he is using pine 3.95 on vms. thnx, -vic- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA09264 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA14373; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:05:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA16862; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:02:05 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA16832 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:01:45 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id UAA29556 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 20:01:43 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 05 Oct 97 05:01:29 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id EAA09044; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 04:58:25 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 05 Oct 1997 04:58:22 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: read-only address book In-Reply-To: Elijah Manor's message of "Sat, 04 Oct 1997 22:04:18 -0500 (CDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Elijah Manor X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "EM" == Elijah Manor writes: man chmod -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:08:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA09263 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA15014; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:08:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA06722; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:06:24 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA47602 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:05:59 -0700 Received: from belle.matt.cs.purdue.edu (simmonmt@chw-il5-26.ix.netcom.com [198.211.138.90]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA02063 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:05:55 -0700 Received: (from simmonmt@localhost) by belle.matt.cs.purdue.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA21316; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:05:43 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: 04 Oct 1997 23:05:42 -0500 Reply-To: simmonmt@acm.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Matt Simmons To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: ms-tnef attachments In-Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha"'s message of "05 Oct 1997 04:23:37 +0200" References: <3436FB41.644F@ibm.mtsac.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://www.netcom.com/~simmonmt X-Face: &|zdM~9cI7q1uq~\EW'*S*":rE7Ruf/U)m!9:^^H0f7)Sd(DIB-;rJf%8QtHy|50!A< >1B\_71-&^x{|ovY@mJ;{AeMFDL[Q*o[1@nd@mZLjJAyJ7Lx`T[Q!H3>!o7~bM0S(7r fhkrufL X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN "Robin S. Socha" writes: > >> "CD" == CHERI DENNISTON <4net5208@ibm.mtsac.edu> writes: > CD> Help, I received a e mail message that contained a MS-TNEF > CD> attachement. > CD> What is the file type, and how do I view it? > *aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!* > Robin is trying to say (in his own special way) that this question has been asked a couple of times before on this group, and that you should check out the archives at www.dejanews.com. I would explain it for you here, but 1) Learning how to use Dejanews builds character, and 2) I've just converted (of my own free will) to a Dvorak keyboard layout, and suddenly become rather slow. Matt -- Matt Simmons - simmonmt@acm.org - http://www.netcom.com/~simmonmt Stupidity got us into this mess -- why can't it get us out? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:13:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA03042 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA15089; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:13:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA18771; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:11:41 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA15432 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:11:06 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id VAA12147 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 21:11:04 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 05 Oct 97 06:10:50 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA10981; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 06:07:45 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 05 Oct 1997 06:07:41 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: ms-tnef attachments In-Reply-To: Matt Simmons's message of "04 Oct 1997 23:05:42 -0500" References: <3436FB41.644F@ibm.mtsac.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: simmonmt@acm.org X-Cc: "Robin S. Socha" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "MS" == Matt Simmons writes: MS> Robin is trying to say (in his own special way) that this question MS> has been asked a couple of times before on this group, and that MS> you should check out the archives at www.dejanews.com. I would MS> explain it for you here, but MS> 1) Learning how to use Dejanews builds character, and Errr... no... I just couldn't find this one in the FAQ. Duhhh. It ought to be there by rights, but then again... MS won't be there once we have world domination, so why bother? MS> 2) I've just converted (of my own free will) to a Dvorak MS> keyboard layout, and suddenly become rather slow. Could I have one, too? My old American layout keyboard died two months ago, and German keyboards plainly suck... Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University The spaceship shuddered. Captain Wilson saw his navigator cringing from a suddenly blue screen. Damn it. If they survived this, a certain Redmond, USA, earth would find itself in hot plasma... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA10370 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:15:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA16277; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:15:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA20752; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:13:16 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA07934 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:12:48 -0700 Received: from home.iosa.com ([207.13.43.67]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA06579 for ; Sat, 4 Oct 1997 23:12:47 -0700 Received: from casey-l.-neeley (ppp06.iosa.com [207.13.43.76]) by home.iosa.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id CAA30280 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 02:12:24 -0400 Message-Id: <199710050612.CAA30280@home.iosa.com> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 01:10:12 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "C. L. Neeley" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Macintosh Plus 1MB MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all. I just purchased a Macintosh Plus 1MB. This is the first Mac that I have ever owned and would like to make it suitable to check my e-mail. I have an external HD (I'm not sure of the size). I'm not sure of the operating system. Besides having to purchase a modem, what else would you all suggest to make it suitable for my e-mail? Thanks -casey Casey Neeley http://www.iosa.com/~buster/index.html Very well: I will rest, and hope for peace. -Salman Rushdie; The Moor's Last Sigh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:03:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA12499 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:03:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA12070; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:02:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA25929; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:00:54 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA05138 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA22492 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:00:05 -0700 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) id DAA18655 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:00:05 -0700 Message-Id: <199710051000.DAA18655@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 03:00:05 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list -- which is mirrored in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine -- please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list/newsgroup are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information on how to subscribe to this mailing list) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun Oct 5 03:00:04 PDT 1997 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 07:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA14777 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 07:51:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA15069; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 07:51:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA00566; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 07:50:31 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA13496 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 07:49:25 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA29283 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 07:49:24 -0700 Received: from giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (giasbm01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA15034 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 07:49:19 -0700 Received: from localhost (mvadgama@localhost) by giasbm01.vsnl.net.in (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA10121 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:17:56 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:17:56 +0530 (GMT+5:30) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "MR. MOHAN K. VADGAMA" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Getting file in pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Developers X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > I am a "pine" user. I mostly use it for E-mail. > So far I was sending straight messages by typing in Compose mode. > I now need to bring, in the body of the messaage, some of the > existing files from say MS WORD, or EXCEL, resting in a directory > of the main drive C: I do not know the method of doing this. > I shall very much appreciate if some instructions to achieve the > above task is passed on to me. I am using Windows ver 3.1 > Thanks mvadgama From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 16:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA20235 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 16:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA21440; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 16:46:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA09366; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 16:45:39 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA19416 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 16:44:22 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA01432 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 16:44:20 -0700 Received: from strauss.udel.edu (strauss.udel.edu [128.175.13.74]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA21397 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 16:44:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (nautica@localhost) by strauss.udel.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA14118 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:44:16 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Arthur Fredrick Jenkins III To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: finger MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern, How do I finger a person. In other words, how do I find someones e-mail address if I know there first and last name? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:11:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA22382 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA23879; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:11:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA19959; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:09:28 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA22936 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:08:35 -0700 Received: from news.skyinet.net (NEWS.SKYINET.NET [206.101.197.231]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA26432 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 20:08:31 -0700 Received: from obelisk (figment@P15.MB02.PSG.SKYINET.NET [208.142.161.79]) by news.skyinet.net (8.8.6/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA25744; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:08:23 +0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:15:36 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "." To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: finger In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Arthur Fredrick Jenkins III X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: figment@obelisk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Arthur Fredrick Jenkins III wrote: > Thanks for using NetForward! > http://www.netforward.com > v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v^v > > To whom it may concern, > > How do I finger a person. In other words, how do I find someones > e-mail address if I know there first and last name? > > fnger.. ok..well,how about a web search? there's dejanews,whowhere,bigfoot and a host of other services where you can look him/her up. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA23323 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA01509; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:22:50 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA28260; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:21:01 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA43098 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:17:40 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA08593 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:17:36 -0700 Received: from mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (root@mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA24802 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:17:34 -0700 Received: from linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us (linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us [198.187.135.22]) by mail.kitsap.lib.wa.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA13487 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:23:11 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Emma Malpaya To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Cursor problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello! I just have a question that your might have an answer. My cursor always get stuck, it won't go anywhere for 10 to 20 seconds. I already search & try to find the solution to my problem in my communication problem, but no luck. Thank you so much, I will appreciate any help you can give me. I really like using your email program. Sincerely, E. Malpaya From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:07:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA23866 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:07:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA26159; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:07:13 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA07822; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:00:19 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA53838 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:58:46 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id WAA13811 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 22:58:43 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 06 Oct 97 07:58:17 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id BAA01869; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:16:29 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 06 Oct 1997 01:16:29 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: finger In-Reply-To: Arthur Fredrick Jenkins III's message of "Sun, 5 Oct 1997 19:44:16 -0400 (EDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Arthur Fredrick Jenkins III X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "AFJ" == Arthur Fredrick Jenkins writes: AFJ> To whom it may concern, Not this list. AFJ> How do I finger a person. Uh-oh... AFJ> In other words, how do I find someones e-mail address if I know AFJ> there first and last name? *sigh* Now *that* is easy... but most of all: HTH, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University "They don't let you teach there, do they?" Annelise Anderson in comp.mail.pine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:55:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA24259 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:55:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA03288; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:55:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA10418; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:53:38 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA51008 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:52:34 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id XAA12822 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 1997 23:52:31 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 06 Oct 97 08:52:16 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA13560; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:04:01 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 06 Oct 1997 07:04:00 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Cursor problem In-Reply-To: Emma Malpaya's message of "Sun, 5 Oct 1997 21:10:04 -0700 (PDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Emma Malpaya X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "EM" == Emma Malpaya writes: EM> Hello! I just have a question that your might have an answer. My EM> cursor always get stuck, it won't go anywhere for 10 to 20 seconds. EM> I already search & try to find the solution to my problem in my EM> communication problem, but no luck. http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin/user.guide/node94.html 5.1.4.21 BACKGROUND POSTING (EXPERIMENTAL!!!) New in Pine 3.94 is an EXPERIMENTAL feature permitting optional sending of messages ``in the background''. Choosing this option at the ``Send?'' confirmation prompt causes Pine to split into two processes; one returns immediately to your control while the other continues sending the message. Later, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University One question: How come the .44 magnum is the worlds only usable point and click interface ? Alan Cox From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA26250 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA04499; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:31:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA02385; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:30:28 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA22576 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:29:16 -0700 Received: from elf.ecitele.com (sprite1.ecitele.com [147.234.56.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id BAA16315 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 01:29:11 -0700 Received: from vega (vega.ecitele.com [147.234.19.70]) by elf.ecitele.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id KAA14017 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:27:52 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:29:15 +0200 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yossi Itzkovich To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Mouse cutNpaste MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: iyossi@vega X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Is there a way to tell pine, that as a default to act as a regular window, and thus using the mouse cut and paste **without** the shift key ? Thanks, Yossi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:28:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA24948 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:28:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA28372; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:28:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA03679; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:27:30 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA22588 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:26:27 -0700 Received: from elf.ecitele.com (sprite1.ecitele.com [147.234.56.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id CAA14390 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 02:26:22 -0700 Received: from vega (vega.ecitele.com [147.234.19.70]) by elf.ecitele.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA20497 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:25:06 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 11:26:29 +0200 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yossi Itzkovich To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Mouse cutNpaste - correction MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: iyossi@vega X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi again, I forgot to mention that I use pine for Unix(Solaris). Thanks, Yossi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:22:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA29061 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA01284; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:21:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA20353; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:19:57 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA44082 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:18:16 -0700 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA29715 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:18:13 -0700 Received: from indy4 (pfarabee@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA26398 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:17:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 08:17:39 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Mouse cutNpaste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Yossi Itzkovich wrote: > > Hi, > > Is there a way to tell pine, that as a default to act as a regular window, > and thus using the mouse cut and paste **without** the shift key ? > > I forgot to mention that I use pine for Unix(Solaris). Is that pine for unix or do you run it in an X-window on console or what? CUT/PASTE (with the mouse) in a telnet session is handled by the telnet application and would have nothing at all to do with pine. Pat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:32:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA28561 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA08103; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:32:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA20900; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:29:05 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA13176 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:27:02 -0700 Received: from elf.ecitele.com (sprite1.ecitele.com [147.234.56.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id GAA27130 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 06:26:54 -0700 Received: from vega (vega.ecitele.com [147.234.19.70]) by elf.ecitele.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA15821; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:24:29 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:25:51 +0200 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yossi Itzkovich To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Mouse cutNpaste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Noone Special X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: iyossi@vega X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Noone Special wrote: > On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Yossi Itzkovich wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Is there a way to tell pine, that as a default to act as a regular window, > > and thus using the mouse cut and paste **without** the shift key ? > > > > I forgot to mention that I use pine for Unix(Solaris). > > Is that pine for unix or do you run it in an X-window on console or what? > > CUT/PASTE (with the mouse) in a telnet session is handled by the telnet > application and would have nothing at all to do with pine. > > Pat > > Pat, It is a X windows system. It's not telnet. Yossi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA10068 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:10:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA08644; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:10:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA22878; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:07:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA25194 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:06:03 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA00142 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:06:02 -0700 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA08572 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:06:00 -0700 Received: from dante23.u.washington.edu (hpryor@dante23.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.73]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA55898 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:05:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (hpryor@localhost) by dante23.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id HAA45986 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:05:59 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:05:59 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: "H. Pryor" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "H. Pryor" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Every time I open my mail I receive this message: [{hpryor.deskmail}inbox : Over quota mail will be returned after Wed Oct 1 07] I've been getting this message since the middle of September. I've opened up more file space. I've been receiving my e-mail the entire time. Now I have this new message that comes up every time I open my e-mail: [{hpryor.deskmail}inbox : Last message bounced back to sender on Wed Oct 1 23] Please make this messages go away. Thank you ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Homer L. Pryor Phone: (206) 616-1493 Research Associate Fax: (206) 543-5380 Human Interface Technology Laboratory Email: hpryor@hitl.washington.edu Box 352142 hpryor@u.washington.edu Seattle, WA 98195-2142 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:30:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA29005 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:30:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA02264; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:30:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA23816; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:26:17 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA31614 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:25:07 -0700 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA28527 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 07:25:02 -0700 Received: from indy4 (pfarabee@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA03999 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:24:19 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:24:30 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Message In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, H. Pryor wrote: > Every time I open my mail I receive this message: > > [{hpryor.deskmail}inbox : Over quota mail will be returned after Wed Oct > 1 07] On many systems, you have two or more quotas associated with your account. One obvious quota is the actual file space you have. Another common one is your mail quota, which is totally separate from the rest of your file space. If your MAIL quota is exceeded, then removing files from your account and "making room" will have no effect. You would need to move the messages from your inbox (either delete them or save them to a mail folder, which would then be stored in your actual account space) > up more file space. I've been receiving my e-mail the entire time. Now I > have this new message that comes up every time I open my e-mail: > > [{hpryor.deskmail}inbox : Last message bounced back to sender on Wed Oct > 1 23] This message probably means that messages are being bounced back to whoever sends them with a message that you are over quota. You will need to rectify the quota problem before receiving any new mail. Pat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:48:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA03747 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:48:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA10292; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:48:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA11976; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:44:45 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA28376 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:43:27 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA11406 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:43:25 -0700 Received: from ouray.cudenver.edu (smprostr@ouray.cudenver.edu [132.194.10.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA10181 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 12:43:22 -0700 Received: by ouray.cudenver.edu (5.65v4.0/DEC-OSF/1.2) id AA29996; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:44:04 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:44:04 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: smprostr@ouray.cudenver.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Bug or problems with pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern: I had subscribed to a newsgroup when I was interrupted by some incoming email. I left the newsgroup and tried to enter my "In-Box" to check my mail, when instead of showing my new email it showed everyone who had replied to the newsgroup in my "In-Box". Then I had to delete all of those people from my "In-Box", logout completely, then log in again to get that new email. To top this off, I have now lost the message and it is nowhere to be found. It is not like I am a new user of pine, I have been working on it for about 2 years now, but I am not advanced. I know there have been a lot of changes, but are these part of it-- or am I experiencing a bug? Thanks! Sandra Prostrollo smprostr@ouray.cudenver.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05356 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA12077; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:51:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA17850; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:47:24 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA28016 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:46:41 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA16146 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:46:38 -0700 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (root@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA18782 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:46:34 -0700 Received: from Dennis.msstate.edu ([130.18.160.101]); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/MsState-Ra/1.5) with SMTP; id PAA27039; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:46:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <34394DEF.54D4@ra.msstate.edu> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 15:45:35 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dennis Sisk To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: If I were to use a Distribution list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: cde1@Ra.MsState.Edu, mds9@Ra.MsState.Edu, sbp2@Ra.MsState.Edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN how do I hide the addresses when I make a large mailing? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA05692 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:01:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19212; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:00:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA00753; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:56:06 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA28092 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:55:01 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA19717 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:54:58 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 06 Oct 97 22:54:43 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA02294; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 21:51:43 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 06 Oct 1997 21:51:42 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: If I were to use a Distribution list In-Reply-To: Dennis Sisk's message of "Mon, 06 Oct 1997 15:45:35 -0500" References: <34394DEF.54D4@ra.msstate.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dennis Sisk X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "DS" == Dennis Sisk writes: DS> how do I hide the addresses when I make a large mailing? -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University begin 644 asdf.uue E22!C86XG="!B96QI979E('Eo=2=R92!R96%D:6YG('1H:7,A"O_] end From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:02:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA05307 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:02:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA12380; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:02:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA18605; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:56:55 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA45476 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:55:44 -0700 Received: from netcom15.netcom.com (ka3agm@netcom15.netcom.com [192.100.81.128]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA02672 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 13:55:37 -0700 Received: from localhost (ka3agm@localhost) by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id QAA21374; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:55:16 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:55:16 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Walt Smith Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Walt Smith To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: If I were to use a Distribution list In-Reply-To: <34394DEF.54D4@ra.msstate.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dennis Sisk X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ka3agm@netcom15 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hit Control-R while the cursor is in the header to get Rich Headers. 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Walt Smith - Raleigh, NC ka3agm@netcom.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:39:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA04526 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:39:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA13615; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:39:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA22081; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:37:24 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA15972 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:36:56 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA07714 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:36:54 -0700 Received: from monroe.lib.mi.us (monroe.lib.mi.us [198.108.98.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA13537 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:36:51 -0700 Received: from pm309-13.dialip.mich.net by monroe.lib.mi.us (8.6.12/2.2) with SMTP id RAA06935; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:36:47 -0400 Received: by pm309-13.dialip.mich.net with Microsoft Mail id <01BCD27E.641A78E0@pm309-13.dialip.mich.net>; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:36:34 -0400 Message-Id: <01BCD27E.641A78E0@pm309-13.dialip.mich.net> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:29:57 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lillian Sasfy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: printer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: "'Pine edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am having trouble printing messages that I get or the information sent = by pine. I can print in all other programs. When I tell it to print it = prints over and over, about 3 or 4 times, and is unreadable. I have an = okidata 92, but I had to install it as a generic because they tell me it = isn't a compatible printer. I have no trouble printing in any other = program . I also can't find my addresses that I put in = lsasfy@monroe.lib.mi.us=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:48:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA06079 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA13860; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:48:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA04936; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:45:38 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA38844 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:45:01 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA08678 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 14:44:57 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 06 Oct 97 23:44:39 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA03889; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 22:40:32 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 06 Oct 1997 22:40:28 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: printer In-Reply-To: Lillian Sasfy's message of "Mon, 6 Oct 1997 17:29:57 -0400" References: <01BCD27E.641A78E0@pm309-13.dialip.mich.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lillian Sasfy X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "LS" == Lillian Sasfy writes: LS> I am having trouble printing messages that I get or the LS> information sent by pine. I can print in all other programs. LS> When I tell it to print it prints over and over, about 3 or 4 LS> times, and is unreadable. I have an okidata 92, but I had to LS> install it as a generic because they tell me it isn't a compatible LS> printer. I have no trouble printing in any other program . I also LS> can't find my addresses that I put in lsasfy@monroe.lib.mi.us Hi, Lillian, your problem is probably covered by the FAQ. Try something around and come back if that doesn't help. Do make sure that you're using the "correct" telnet program (Ewan is rumored to work well - but who uses windos?). HTH, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Free Software: Contribute nothing, expect nothing From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA08061 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:13:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA21564; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:12:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA07264; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:07:11 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA05644 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:06:31 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA25462 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:06:27 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA21387 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:06:25 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA06929 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:06:24 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:06:10 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David L Miller To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: New focus for Pine-Info MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info Mailing List X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN [ This message is being sent both to the pine-info@cac.washington.edu ] [ mailing list and the comp.mail.pine newsgroup ] We haven't seen any outcry of support for re-establishing the gateway between pine-info and comp.mail.pine, so we are considering the split to be more-or-less permanent. As a result, we would like to see a shift in the focus of the discussion on the Pine-Info list toward a more technical discussion of issues important to pine/system administrators, contributors, and advanced users. We do not have (nor do we want ;-) any control over the comp.mail.pine newsgroup... The (un)subscription address for the pine-info mailing list is listproc@u.washington.edu Send a message with a body of "help" for information on using listproc. Archives of the pine-info mailing list will remain available at http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ and imap://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ Archives of the comp.mail.pine newsgroup are available from DejaNews, http://www.dejanews.com Thanks for your interest in Pine! -- The Pine Team -- David L. Miller | I would have made a good Pope. -- Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | Richard M. Nixon Box 354841, University of Washington | 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA07132 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA21807; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:21:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA08248; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:18:32 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA15488 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:18:01 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA26726 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:17:59 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 07 Oct 97 00:17:44 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA05220; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:14:37 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 06 Oct 1997 23:14:30 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: New focus for Pine-Info In-Reply-To: David L Miller's message of "Mon, 6 Oct 1997 15:06:10 -0700 (PDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "DLM" == David L Miller writes: DLM> As a result, we would like to see a shift in the focus of the DLM> discussion on the Pine-Info list toward a more technical DLM> discussion of issues important to pine/system administrators, DLM> contributors, and advanced users. We do not have (nor do we DLM> want;-) any control over the comp.mail.pine newsgroup... IOW, you're actually going to moderate the mailing list? Fine. Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University .sig abducted by terrorists From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:12:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA09747 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA23243; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:11:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA00591; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:09:29 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA30766 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:07:58 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA04912 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:07:54 -0700 Received: from educom.sce.fct.unl.pt (educom.sce.fct.unl.pt [193.136.120.128]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA23130 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:07:44 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost.si.fct.unl.pt [127.0.0.1]) by educom.sce.fct.unl.pt (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA26378 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 23:03:43 GMT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 00:03:43 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward Goltz To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: problems attaching MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: eag@educom X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sirs, Certaainly don't want to waste your time, but... Why might it be that I can't manage to attach anything at all to emails I am sending, while I do recieve attachments being sent to me. I have reconfigured numerous times and get nowhere. Control-R doesn't work either. Best regards, and hoping for a response, Edward Goltz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:29:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA05664 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:29:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA23642; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:29:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA13786; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:26:20 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA37058 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:25:48 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA04330 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:25:45 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:24:52 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:24:52 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: If I were to use a Distribution list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Walt Smith X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Walt Smith wrote: > Hit Control-R while the cursor is in the header to get Rich Headers. > Leave the "To:" field blank and place the name of your mailing list in the > "BCC:" field. *Don't do that*. (Maybe this should be in the FAQ too...., Robin?) If you leave the "To:" field blank some MTAs will insert an "Apparently-To:" field and expose all of the receipients. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:33:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA09940 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:33:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA23754; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:33:29 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA01989; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:31:07 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA28150 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:30:29 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA21278 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 16:30:24 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:29:16 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:29:16 +0800 (GMT) Reply-To: Edward M Greshko Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: problems attaching In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward Goltz X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Edward Goltz wrote: > Sirs, Try not to address the wider audience with gender terminology.... > Certaainly don't want to waste your time, but... > Why might it be that I can't manage to attach anything at all to emails I > am sending, while I do recieve attachments being sent to me. > I have reconfigured numerous times and get nowhere. Control-R doesn't work > either. > Best regards, and hoping for a response, Chances are very good that you are specifying the filename or path to the file properly. What, error message are you getting? -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:38:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA11927 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:38:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA26425; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:38:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA11651; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:37:26 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA32630 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:36:39 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA03466 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:36:37 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id SAA14149; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:36:33 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:36:30 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David L Miller To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: New focus for Pine-Info In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 6 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >> "DLM" == David L Miller writes: > > DLM> As a result, we would like to see a shift in the focus of the > DLM> discussion on the Pine-Info list toward a more technical > DLM> discussion of issues important to pine/system administrators, > DLM> contributors, and advanced users. We do not have (nor do we > DLM> want;-) any control over the comp.mail.pine newsgroup... > > IOW, you're actually going to moderate the mailing list? Fine. Nope. We're just asking nicely... :-) -- David L. Miller | GIVE A DAMN, DON'T SPAM! -- Dave Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | Aronson Box 354841, University of Washington | 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:00:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA12537 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:00:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA26824; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:00:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA24971; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:58:59 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA16454 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:58:21 -0700 Received: from neighbornet.net ([207.90.242.132]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id SAA17137 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 18:58:18 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 06 Oct 97 20:58:16 PDT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Rebecca Roberts" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: I need help and advice on encoded messages. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; X-MAPIextension=".TXT" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear PIne-info, Please can you help a real "Greenhorn". I received an e mail yesterday = that was in gobbledegook. The first part I could read and then it was all= just numbers and letters, It says Content type: application/octet/stream Content transfer:encoding base64 I know it came from a friend using Windows 95 and writing in Word 7 (I = think he said) I am using windows 3.11 and Word 6 but do not know how to unencode it, = can you help me? It came to my Juno account which is RebeccaRoberts@juno.= com I would really appreciate any help you can give me and I apologise if thi= s is so simple that you wonder why I ask-sufice to say- I ask because I = do not know. "as aye:" Rebecca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA12880 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:22:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA20205; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:22:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA25961; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:20:18 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA53836 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:19:52 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com ([209.80.13.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA19920 for ; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:19:50 -0700 Received: from colin-raven (ip31.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.31]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA38714; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 02:20:38 GMT Message-Id: <199710070220.CAA38714@ns3.quik.com> Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 19:16:49 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: I need help and advice on encoded messages. X-To: "Rebecca Roberts" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi Rebecca! Alas, you should email your friend, and ask him/her what browser they are using. Also let me know what browser you are using. If anyone is interested, you can see some work I did, "back when" while grappling with such problems.Point your browser at http://linus.uhmc.sunysb.edu/~colin/mail.html Files have to be "attached" or sent in a form that BOTH ends can understand. (Kind of like me sending you a document in Russian, when you can only speak Chnese). Start by suggesting to your friend that they adjust (tweak) their browser to UUencode (unless they are using Netscape mail 3.0 in which case that client can't speak UUencode. If it's really critical, then I suggest you both download and install a copy of Eudora Light, which will enable you both to "speak the same encoding language" You can get Eudora Light by downloading it from http://www.eudora.com/eudoralight/#download If you really run into any seemingly intractable problems, email me off-list and I'll help you solve the problem further. Colin ---------- From: Rebecca Roberts To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: I need help and advice on encoded messages. Date: Monday, October 06, 1997 8:58 PM Dear PIne-info, Please can you help a real "Greenhorn". I received an e mail yesterday that was in gobbledegook. The first part I could read and then it was all just numbers and letters, It says Content type: application/octet/stream Content transfer:encoding base64 I know it came from a friend using Windows 95 and writing in Word 7 (I think he said) I am using windows 3.11 and Word 6 but do not know how to unencode it, can you help me? It came to my Juno account which is RebeccaRoberts@juno.com I would really appreciate any help you can give me and I apologise if this is so simple that you wonder why I ask-sufice to say- I ask because I do not know. "as aye:" Rebecca ---------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA17343 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:33:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA25544; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:33:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA28652; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:32:26 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA29642 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:30:45 -0700 Received: from proxy-hl.lynet.de (proxy-hl.lynet.de [194.127.178.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA13893 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 01:30:37 -0700 Received: from reteco.de (mail.reteco.de [194.77.194.18]) by proxy-hl.lynet.de (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA18933 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:28:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from MAX (MAX [192.1.99.46]) by reteco.de (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id da000159 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:07:11 +0100 Received: by max with Microsoft Mail id <01BCD308.E411C460@max>; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:07:59 +-100 Message-Id: <01BCD308.E411C460@max> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:07:58 +-100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "M. Reichmuth" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Problems using Pine together with fetchmail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have a quite huge problem using fetchmail 4.0.1 together with sendmail or Pine3.96 I`d like to use fetchmail to fetch mails from a POP-Domain and forward them with sendmail or Pine3.96 to different Unix-mail-accounts. Fetchmail I think does everything right, but when I use sendmail as "mda" fetchmail terminates with signal 13 after fetching the mails and handling them to sendmail. Using it with Pine is also quite strange : fetchmail handles the mails over to pine, but every time a mail arrives at pine, the pine mail-editor opens with the received mail. It looks somehow like the following : PINE 3.96 COMPOSE MESSAGE Folder: (CLOSED) 0 Msgs To : Cc : Attchmnt: Subject : ----- Message Text ----- Received: from MAX (MAX [192.1.99.46]) by reteco.de (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP$ Received: by max with Microsoft Mail id <01BCD23E.6C513D40@max>; Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:58:40 +-100 Message-ID: <01BCD23E.6C513D40@max> From: "M. Reichmuth" To: "'root@goedecke.cargolink.de'" Subject: WG: testmail 1 an root@goedecke.cargolink.de Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 09:58:39 +-100 Return-Receipt-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originally-To: X-Originally-From: Pine wants me to enter the To-address !!! Why, it already stands a bit more down in the received mail ! Can`t pine take it from there ? If so, how do I have to configure this ??? I hope somebody could give me some hints for these problems ! Regards M.Reichmuth@reteco.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA19834 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA27621; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:18:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA01486; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:17:52 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA31368 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:17:00 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA17735 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:16:58 -0700 Received: from mail.glink.net.hk (mail.glink.net.hk [202.72.0.38]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA04665 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:16:54 -0700 Received: from hanlun.com.hk (dialup141 [202.72.1.141]) by mail.glink.net.hk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA26628 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:15:36 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: <343A1A44.EA4EBA28@hanlun.com.hk> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 19:17:24 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: kenli To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: .forward file MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir, Recently I meet a problem and I found no answer anywhere, I hope this email is not make too much trouble to you. The following is my problem: As we know, we can forward a file to a destination directory by using .forward file. But I found that if the saved mail is append each time. Can I replace the original old copy of mail rather than append on it? Best regards, kenli From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA20394 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:14:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA05362; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:14:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA03179; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:12:39 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA27764 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:11:33 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA21135 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:11:31 -0700 Received: from bigblue.jriver.com (bigblue.jriver.com [192.146.151.166]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA28262 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:11:29 -0700 Received: from frs-inc.com (ppp5mag.cleaf.com [208.210.194.15]) by bigblue.jriver.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA100290 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:11:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3438D6FD.70B2B5FA@frs-inc.com> Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 07:18:05 -0500 Reply-To: dtudor@frs-inc.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dorothy Tudor To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ms-tnef MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If you could help me. I have received an e-mail with an application/ms-tnef attached. I do not know what to do with it. Please e-mail me at dtudor@frs-inc.com Thanks Dorothy Tudor From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA20424 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA28420; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:24:00 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA15394; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:22:56 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA23618 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:21:14 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA20171 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:21:12 -0700 Received: from wave.st.usm.edu (wave.st.usm.edu [131.95.119.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id FAA28381 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:21:08 -0700 Received: by wave.st.usm.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA08742; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:20:24 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:20:23 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Chau Nguyen To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sirs, How do I attatch a signature file to my email? Thanks, Chau Nguyen From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA13861 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA05568; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:29:09 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA47550; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:28:11 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA13330 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:27:29 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA09683 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:27:22 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA08959; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:27:04 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 07 Oct 1997 14:27:03 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Request for FAQ: Re: ms-tnef In-Reply-To: Dorothy Tudor's message of "Mon, 06 Oct 1997 07:18:05 -0500" References: <3438D6FD.70B2B5FA@frs-inc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: dtudor@frs-inc.com X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Regarding ms-tnef; Dorothy Tudor writes: I suggest to add the following entry to the faq: Q: What is an application/ms-tnef and what do I do with it? A: It's a useless attachment created by pathetic Mail User Agents such as Mickysoft Outlook Express. They can safely be ignored. With PC-Pine, you can modify your mailcap to lauch an appropriate program, such as fdisk or loadlin. DT> If you could help me. I have received an e-mail with an DT> application/ms-tnef attached. I do not know what to do with DT> it. Please e-mail me at dtudor@frs-inc.com Hi, Dorothy, you're #28 to ask this question in just 2 months. Have you ever heard of a thing called: ? Have you ever consulted the pine help page: or my dvi, ps and html version of it: and if not, why not? Robin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQEVAwUBNDoqlrzilfG+yuTtAQFhcAf/cpm3xRSaDIuaaVKvGK71cIQdrw6c/TQu XgGIKuedScfzNU73Ilu+Vefon5++iw85jOyDcRtcvCTkrObaeue6jFIsPne8Lchb MmdtXHbdgCVokEoLr6pDVXjJyN3XGMmpqfxGOj3gljBnTFewVkjRHjYFKEU58oUH lPt9uEz0851oGtLlaHxiV1B9n/9hwbksfFuacyhhJGDIgIiRB12AoFGJFEgQzHyk NbVcvZQ3f/gWLQSmpmj9FITXzk12wZcRE7x34PJkt+4XhigB16NfGBtz4Tk+m79x tmsCd7G6PCGlUYfdkYQHrbiGOT+799Ye27V8UEBrPj+z4Xygiu3Ysw== =ufXJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Robin S. Socha M.A. In most countries selling harmful things like drugs is punishable. Then how come people can sell Microsoft software and go unpunished? (Hasse Skrifvars) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:47:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA20335 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA28690; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:47:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA15870; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:43:04 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA29686 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:41:42 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA20616 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 05:41:38 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA09023; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:41:51 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 07 Oct 1997 14:41:51 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: none In-Reply-To: Chau Nguyen's message of "Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:20:23 -0500 (CDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chau Nguyen X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> "CN" == Chau Nguyen writes: CN> Dear Sirs, How do I attatch a signature file to my email? 3.7 How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Signature. The text you enter in the SIGNATURE EDITOR (new in Pine 3.92) will be appended to all messages you compose. Read the FAQ, young man. Browsable and printable versions to be found on my website (see X-header)... Later, Robin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQEVAwUBNDouDrzilfG+yuTtAQFZ7Qf+JRoWXUcmnH0OAEizcNbnkJ5sIS5YsorC MUr8bEQrE+AbkyDH2NgILxTftXnlO+yZjTU2OdGtFjJeSl3gdtgs7sXiAVbRdX49 9uGot3StKJZtJYFH30oDu0smbA/y5aI+ciKl9K3CpsBYw30IhWSyNXT30RDCl1Us uawd1xrAktjufOU3KnJGOayjb3E6WT9+mI2EaOLved+1bJHTWOaBu0dMTycRFITf elWuXNi4gn2dlGrjPnvGZo3xs/Z933lJdL7yHvo47X/+eqZgPE9ckx6b+x7WWNs8 vVofAWn181PmLkPReGFCpQfud/2e9u4ZQOZlFsyyaCNfcozHw+U19w== =5khG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Robin S. Socha M.A. "I'd crawl over an acre of 'Visual This++' and 'Integrated Development That' to get to gcc, Emacs, and gdb. Thank you." (Vance Petree) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA20942 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA06080; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:08:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA16888; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:05:36 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA36490 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:05:05 -0700 Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA22041 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 06:05:01 -0700 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:59:45 +0100 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk (pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.6]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA05981; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:03:55 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:03:54 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chau Nguyen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Step 1: You are using an age-old version of Pine (3.89) Upgrade to the current version (3.96) Step 2: Start your new version of Pine and type: S (Setup) S (Signature) Should be obvious from thereon-in. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Chau Nguyen wrote: > Dear Sirs, > How do I attatch a signature file to my email? > > Thanks, > > Chau Nguyen > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA21063 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:15:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07054; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:15:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA10344; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:12:56 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA48082 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:12:13 -0700 Received: from virgin.usvi.net (ab541@virgin.usvi.net [204.199.0.100]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA16954 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:12:11 -0700 Received: (from ab541@localhost) by virgin.usvi.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA22370; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:14:37 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:14:37 -0400 (AST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stangetz Caines To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Encoding MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello all someone sent me an attachment they encoded it with mpack but when i get my mail pine also encodes it is there any special way to decode the file when i get it on my computer the file is segmented when i try to decode it in mpack preferance folder there is a file just as large an the file that i try to decode,and the file that i decode has a name like "filename.sit.mime.01... any help would be verry thankfull. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:34:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA19346 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA00290; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:34:11 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA22186; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:31:15 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA10948 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:29:56 -0700 Received: from scra.org (rpgsparc.scra.org [147.120.110.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id HAA00291 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:29:54 -0700 Received: from QCAB01.SCRA.ORG by scra.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA00897; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:31:45 -0400 Message-Id: <33E9DBD2.1391@esn106.scra.org> Date: Thu, 07 Aug 1997 10:29:39 -0400 Reply-To: huangy@esn106.scra.org Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yong Huang To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: vms email forwarding MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN At Texas A&M and many other universities, OpenVMS is at version 6. This new version allows you to not use smtp%"..." so you can directly say set forward "johndoe@aol.com". Not tested. But I think this is right. Yong Huang From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA09810 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07619; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:49:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA12654; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:46:50 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA13364 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:45:47 -0700 Received: from bay2.bjt.net (root@bay2.bjt.net [207.201.6.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA19832 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:45:45 -0700 Received: from bay1.bjt.net (kstevens@bay1.bjt.net [207.201.6.1]) by bay2.bjt.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA24308; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:39:55 -0700 Received: from localhost (kstevens@localhost) by bay1.bjt.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id HAA32515; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:39:56 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:39:56 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Stevens To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Chau Nguyen X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: bay1.bjt.net: kstevens owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On UNIX with a .signature file. On pc-pine with a pine.sig file. Ken ------------------------------------ kstevens@bjt.net kstevens@splusnet.com kstevens@pacbell.net kstevens1@juno.com ken.stevens@readrite.com (work) On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Chau Nguyen wrote: > Dear Sirs, > How do I attatch a signature file to my email? > > Thanks, > > Chau Nguyen > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:55:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA21733 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:55:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA00620; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:55:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA23548; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:52:47 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA05722 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:51:11 -0700 Received: from tcnet.org (jeff@tcnet.org [199.176.180.4]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA02064 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:51:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by tcnet.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA16653; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:49:52 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Problems using Pine together with fetchmail In-Reply-To: <01BCD308.E411C460@max> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "M. Reichmuth" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, M. Reichmuth wrote: > > > > I have a quite huge problem using fetchmail 4.0.1 together with sendmail or > Pine3.96 > > I`d like to use fetchmail to fetch mails from a POP-Domain and forward them > with sendmail or Pine3.96 to different Unix-mail-accounts. Pine is a MUA (Mail User Agent). Sendmail is an MTA (Mail Transport Agent). You'll want to use sendmail with fetchmail, I would think. Best of luck with getting everything together. If you run into any more problems, check with the makers of fetchmail, or consult a sendmail reference. :) -jeff -- Jeff - jeff@tcnet.org PGP Public Key available at http://tcnet.org/~jeff/pubkey.txt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:56:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA21843 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA00647; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:56:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA13008; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:54:13 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA11218 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:51:26 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA02095 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:51:24 -0700 Received: from weblock.tm.net.my (weblock.tm.net.my [202.188.0.180]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07650 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 07:51:19 -0700 Received: from tm.net.my ([202.188.38.163]) by weblock.tm.net.my (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO203a ID# 581-40942U100000L100000S0) with SMTP id AAA702 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:52:03 +0800 Message-Id: <199710071451.HAA07650@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 22:50:59 -0700 Reply-To: "mahgt@tm.net.my"@tm.net.my Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: mah guey tsair <"mahgt@tm.net.my"@tm.net.my> To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: how to check MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello . Hope you are fine . how to check the mail come form or who send it ? Have the checking mail software ( check who send it or come from ) Thanks ! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:06:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA21888 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:06:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA00903; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:06:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA24180; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:03:54 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA18060 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:02:26 -0700 Received: from sjfc.edu (sjfc.edu [149.69.1.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA01797 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:02:19 -0700 Received: from prong by sjfc.edu (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/12Aug97-0226PM) id AA20729; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:57:36 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971007110235.0069eff4@sjfc.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 11:02:35 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dave Prong To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: News reader configuration Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: prong@sjfc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have installed dnews on our Alpha 4000 and am attempting to configure Pine 3.96 so I can use its News-reader feature. I have been unsuccessful. It appears that the 3 settings I need in the configuration are: news-collections news-active-file-path news-spool-directory I had a news-collections setting of *{ac.sjfc.edu/nntp}[], which was working. When I went to subscribe to a newsgroup and hit ^T, I got the full list of all newsgroups. The news-active-file-path and news-spool-directory were set to no value and the files existed in the same directories that the online help said they would be. I changed news-collections to *{sjfc.edu/nntp}[] (just removed the ac), which is where the dnews server is running, and modified the news-active-file-path and news-spool-directory settings. Now when I attempt to subscribe to a newsgroup and hit ^T, I get a message that says [>No groups to select from!<] Can anyone offer any advice? Dave Prong, Assistant Director Computer Services St. John Fisher College 3690 East Avenue Rochester, NY 14618 (716)385-8019 prong@sjfc.edu http://www.sjfc.edu "We are born with 3 rights: life, liberty, and the pursuit of baseball" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:09:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA21996 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:09:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08025; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:09:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA24330; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:05:59 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA27112 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:05:26 -0700 Received: from gamma.dou.dk (gamma.dou.dk [130.225.130.6]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA21783 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:05:20 -0700 Received: from lars.dou.dk (lars.dou.dk [130.225.156.249]) by gamma.dou.dk (8.8.6/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA01467; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:05:14 +0200 (METDST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:05:14 +0200 (DDT) Reply-To: Lars Scheffmann Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lars Scheffmann To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: New focus for Pine-Info In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David L Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: scheffmann@mail.dou.dk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, David L Miller wrote: > On 6 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > > >> "DLM" == David L Miller writes: > > > > DLM> As a result, we would like to see a shift in the focus of the > > DLM> discussion on the Pine-Info list toward a more technical > > DLM> discussion of issues important to pine/system administrators, > > DLM> contributors, and advanced users. We do not have (nor do we > > DLM> want;-) any control over the comp.mail.pine newsgroup... > > > > IOW, you're actually going to moderate the mailing list? Fine. > > Nope. We're just asking nicely... :-) > I will look forward to have a list as you suggest, so we can get rid of all the "simple" user questions, which can be solved by using the extremely good HELP-functions in Pine, or just read the available documentation. Please don't flame me for this opinion, because I think we can use two lists, one for beginners and one for system administrators etc. Regards Lars Scheffmann, Network Adm. E-Mail: scheffmann@dou.dk Dept. of Academic Information Systems Phone: +45 6615 8600 ext.2867 DOU, Odense University Direct: +45 6557 2867 Niels Bohrs Alle 11, 5230 Odense M Fax: +45 6612 3366 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:38:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA22383 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:38:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08768; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:38:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA07684; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:35:48 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA22692 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:34:13 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA04557 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:34:09 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA01072; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:34:19 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:34:18 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: New focus for Pine-Info In-Reply-To: Lars Scheffmann's message of "Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:05:14 +0200 (DDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lars Scheffmann X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "LS" == Lars Scheffmann writes: LS> On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, David L Miller wrote: >> On 6 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> > >> "DLM" == David L Miller writes: >> > IOW, you're actually going to moderate the mailing list? Fine. >> Nope. We're just asking nicely... :-) LS> I will look forward to have a list as you suggest, so we can get LS> rid of all the "simple" user questions, which can be solved by LS> using the extremely good HELP-functions in Pine, or just read the LS> available documentation. Umm... one thing that struck me as odd, though: pine is mainly a newsreader, so it might be overly tempting to write a quick mail when in trouble. Whatever... Maybe there ought to be a "developer" or "advanced user" list, but... just what would one want to advance from with pine? IMO, about 90% of the questions put on this list are useage question that are covered by the docs in one way or another. LS> Please don't flame me for this opinion, because I think we can use LS> two lists, one for beginners and one for system administrators LS> etc. I think you're perfectly right, but unless the sysadmin list is closed (good) or moderated (bad), your idea will probably not work. Just my DM,02, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody. It doesn't generate revenue. (Dave '-ddt->` Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA15906 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:45:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08999; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:45:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA16531; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:42:05 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA53806 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:40:49 -0700 Received: from Ra.MsState.Edu (cde1@Ra.MsState.Edu [130.18.80.10]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA05802 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:40:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (cde1@localhost); by Ra.MsState.Edu (8.8.7/8.8.7/MsState-Ra/1.5) with SMTP; id KAA14135 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:40:39 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:40:38 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Charles D. Estes" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN how can I add someone directly to my distribution list from the "inbox" without saving, adding, deleting, etc..... XXX XXXX X X XXXX X X X X X X X X X X X X X X XX X X X X X X X X XXX XXXX XXXXX XXXX Doug Estes Junior, Math Education **The Spirit helps us in our weakness; for we do not know how to pray as we ought, but that very Spirit intercedes with signs too deep for words.** Romans 8:26 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA22947 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA09232; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:52:45 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA48024; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:49:34 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA47644 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:48:57 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26561 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:48:54 -0700 Received: from heap.nac.net (qmailr@heap.nac.net [207.99.2.242]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA09096 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:48:51 -0700 Received: (qmail 22998 invoked by uid 1252); 7 Oct 1997 15:47:33 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 11:47:33 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: ducktape Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ducktape To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Error MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am getting this error: [Can't open mailbox Folder: no such folder] [No folder opened] How do I go about fixing it? Due To This error you will need to reply to me at ggroce@hotmail.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA22869 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA02317; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:58:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA17234; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:50:27 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA10882 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:49:32 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA06764 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:49:24 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA01111; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:49:15 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:49:15 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: "Charles D. Estes"'s message of "Tue, 7 Oct 1997 10:40:38 -0500 (CDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Charles D. Estes" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> "CDE" == Charles D Estes writes: CDE> how can I add someone directly to my distribution list from the CDE> "inbox" without saving, adding, deleting, etc..... My, my... T(ake) the address, ^T (go to address book), hit the list, add the entry, done. I didn't know that and it took me 20 seconds to figure it out... Would it have been asked too much from you? Later, Robin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQEVAwUBNDpZ+rzilfG+yuTtAQHQ8Qf/SifIhPLLEgNvGy3ArgC2vChlSE77qetG C2X5uUuRUJQ2tISMnYxLLwMSbahJFnSHW6PcDbOSxIMKyuSQnaBgkKTWivMFtU6i qhr58Mzix9bjb2t+IuKTkoMUGYBmC9p4QKmUI6dvcMkGVTX9UT4mPGxZZLPXdEnO FPvRTYGbPEtYQQ9zZBvYTnv4o7FC8UNzxDJigE9+XBuwdjsc58nXWHZ4/TWHeqEY /S4/RvLoVT3x0K2PFj3plqKEC6uzAyLcAbXtANy4yfjb8xT8hOcjI7meqy6llJNH 2DAwrgc/Ni5jAzEWpWTw1f8D5kaj4nUKmQyRYAuXN9PmLwBSQ4E1Jw== =3/hn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Robin S. Socha M.A. >Linux is not user-friendly. It _is_ user-friendly. It is not ignorant-friendly and idiot-friendly. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA23098 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09613; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:04:55 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA22904; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:02:09 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA43514 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:01:33 -0700 Received: from tcnet.org (jeff@tcnet.org [199.176.180.4]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA08068 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 09:01:27 -0700 Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by tcnet.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id MAA19224; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:01:04 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Jeff Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: .forward file In-Reply-To: <343A1A44.EA4EBA28@hanlun.com.hk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: kenli X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, kenli wrote: [...] > As we know, we can forward a file to a destination directory by using > .forward file. But I found that if the saved mail is append each time. > Can I replace the original old copy of mail rather than append on it? I'm not sure why you would want to do that... sounds like you would want to append, and not overwrite (as opposed to the other way around). Try an off-list reply to me with some details on what you're trying to accomplish. I see what I can do. Procmail might be the answer. :) -jeff -- Jeff - jeff@tcnet.org PGP Public Key available at http://tcnet.org/~jeff/pubkey.txt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA29274 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:00:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA09526; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:00:13 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA31050; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:57:04 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA19414 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:54:50 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA05656 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:54:48 -0700 Received: from mailer.syr.edu (mailer.syr.edu [128.230.20.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA09390 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:54:43 -0700 Received: from rodan.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.1a) with SMTP id <0.39049710@mailer.syr.edu>; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:53:59 -0400 Received: from localhost (ajestaph@localhost) by rodan.syr.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA20823 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:53:45 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Andrew J. Estaphan" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: e-mail problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: rodan.syr.edu: ajestaph owned process doing -bs X-Sender: ajestaph@rodan.syr.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern, I was unaware that saving messages through pine would take up a lot of memory in my e-mail. After a few days of not receiving mail I figured something was wrong and decided to just delete everything. I had around 80 e-mail messages, so I deleted all but one message. The problem is that each time I log into my e-mail, the POPmail tells me that I must lose over 5,000,000 bytes of space, but I can't do that because I really have nothing left to delete. What should I do? I am unable to receive any messages because of this problem, so whatever you can do to help me would be great! If it means wiping out everything in my e-mail that would be fine with me, as long as I can get this thing working again. Thanks for your help. Sincerely, Andrew Estaphan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:09:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA29188 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:08:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA09814; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:08:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA20191; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:06:02 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA33748 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:04:31 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA08121 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:04:25 -0700 Received: from mtant.mtanet.com ([204.52.154.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA16913 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:04:19 -0700 Received: from mtasco ([204.52.154.11]) by mtant.mtanet.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1 release PO205e ID# 0-34170U100L2S100) with SMTP id AAA93 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:07:12 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 12:59:09 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Fleming To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: maf@mtasco X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Have a problem OS5 UNIX system cannot seem to run Pine on IBM 3151 terminals. They get the following error message. Termcap entry is too long. Your terminal, of type ibm3151 is lacking functions needed to run pine. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated. Reply to kiyote@rocketmail.com. Thank you. Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA30492 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:46:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA10709; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:46:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA23299; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:44:13 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA40096 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:42:47 -0700 Received: from Joyce-Perkins.tenet.edu (Joyce-Perkins.tenet.edu [198.213.2.6]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA03016 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 13:42:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (cai@localhost) by Joyce-Perkins.tenet.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA19858; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:27:27 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:27:27 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Celia A Irvin To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine disconnection In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Shawn Jeffries X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: Joyce-Perkins.tenet.edu: cai owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Shawn,I ttansferred my service from kTenet to TenetPlus. Last night I talked to Tad at customer Service. He told me my new user name was celirvin and my password was the same school. I,ve tried that but still can't get my email. Please help me. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:42:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA32149 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:42:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19802; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:42:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA27592; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:40:48 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA40012 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:40:01 -0700 Received: from ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (siteadm@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com [24.3.128.66]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA10045 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:40:00 -0700 Received: from luomat.peak.org ([24.2.83.40]) by ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA16173 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:39:58 -0700 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by luomat.peak.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id RAA07614 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 17:39:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148.RR) Message-Id: <199710072139.RAA07614@luomat.peak.org> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 17:39:49 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: New focus for Pine-Info In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b6.3) X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-NeXTStep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: "Robin S. Socha" Original-Date: 07 Oct 1997 17:34:18 +0200 Message-ID: > LS> Please don't flame me for this opinion, because I think we can use > LS> two lists, one for beginners and one for system administrators > LS> etc. > > I think you're perfectly right, but unless the sysadmin list is closed > (good) or moderated (bad), your idea will probably not work. But it will be a LOT easier to point to the FAQ/online help here, whereas I was flamed for doing so on the newsgroup JUST because someone had asked 'How do I change my "From"' for the fourth time that week. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:58:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA23352 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:58:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA13037; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:58:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA28287; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:56:20 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA29456 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:55:44 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA19685 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:55:43 -0700 Received: from rubens.artisan.calpoly.edu (root@rubens.artisan.calpoly.edu [129.65.60.41]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA20235 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:55:37 -0700 Received: from polymail.calpoly.edu (p105-225-w.trinity.reshall.calpoly.edu [207.62.155.122]) by rubens.artisan.calpoly.edu with ESMTP (8.7.6/8.7.1) id OAA23592 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 14:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <343A93B4.FD7B3C6@polymail.calpoly.edu> Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 14:55:32 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jenny Tringale To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: application/ms-tnef MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm not sure if I'm asking the right person, but I have a question. I use netscape and I received a letter with some sort of attachment that said 2.1 and then "application/ms-tnef" Do you have any idea what I need to download to read the mail? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:17:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22943 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA13625; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:16:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA29556; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:15:15 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA43550 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:14:31 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA23315 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:14:28 -0700 Received: from tacom by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA05667; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:15:25 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:17:54 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Shawn Jeffries Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: application/ms-tnef In-Reply-To: <343A93B4.FD7B3C6@polymail.calpoly.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jenny Tringale X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@tacom X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Jenny Tringale wrote: >I'm not sure if I'm asking the right person, but I have a question. I >use netscape and I received a letter with some sort of attachment that >said 2.1 and then "application/ms-tnef" Do you have any idea what I >need to download to read the mail? In the words of the esteemed Robin S. Socha : " It's a useless attachment created by pathetic Mail User Agents such as Mickysoft Outlook Express. They can safely be ignored. With PC-Pine, you can modify your mailcap to lauch an appropriate program, such as fdisk or loadlin." Shawn M. Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com P.S. I believe that makes #29 this week From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA32691 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:47:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA14438; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:47:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA22096; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:45:39 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA20154 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:44:48 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA17972 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 15:44:11 -0700 Received: from tacom by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id SAA05876; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:45:06 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 18:47:35 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Shawn Jeffries Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: read-only address book In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Elijah Manor X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@tacom X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 4 Oct 1997, Elijah Manor wrote: >i ran into a strange problem the other day. a friend of mine has a >read-only address book. it hasnt always been that way. he didnt have any >other instances of pine open & i checked the read/write/exe/del protection >on his address_book. everything seemed to check out fine. we ftp'ed >another address_book and replaced his old one just to see if we could fix >the problem, but to no avail. his address book has been read-only since >then. nothing else seems to be read-only, just his address book. i told >him i would try to find out how to fix his problem. he is using pine 3.95 >on vms. thnx, -vic- make sure you don't have the name of your addressbook file in the setup-config menu under the line : global-address-book = (putting it here make it read-only) but instead, it should be input on the line : address-book = Shawn M. Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA01456 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA14984; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:04:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA23633; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:02:32 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA34124 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:01:28 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA28731 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:01:27 -0700 Received: from alpha.cc.oberlin.edu (SYSTEM@alpha.cc.oberlin.edu [132.162.1.245]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA14914 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:01:22 -0700 Received: from OBERLIN.EDU by OBERLIN.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #24033) id <01IOJAYAL3T0007IRM@OBERLIN.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:01:20 EDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 19:01:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Gwyneth.Evans@oberlin.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: out-mail MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there any way to retrieve a message on Pine that I sent to someone? Gwen Evans From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA01214 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:07:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA15083; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:07:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA23966; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:04:43 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA53858 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:02:45 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA29031 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:02:42 -0700 Received: from tacom by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06060; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:02:46 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:05:15 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Mouse cutNpaste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Yossi Itzkovich X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@tacom X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Yossi Itzkovich wrote: >On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Noone Special wrote: >> On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Yossi Itzkovich wrote: >> > >> > Hi, >> > >> > Is there a way to tell pine, that as a default to act as a regular window, >> > and thus using the mouse cut and paste **without** the shift key ? >> > >> > I forgot to mention that I use pine for Unix(Solaris). >> >> Is that pine for unix or do you run it in an X-window on console or what? >> >> CUT/PASTE (with the mouse) in a telnet session is handled by the telnet >> application and would have nothing at all to do with pine. >> >> Pat >Pat, > >It is a X windows system. It's not telnet. > >Yossi from the Pine help under MAIN-SETUP-CONFIG FEATURE: enable-mouse-in-xterm This feature controls whether or not an X terminal mouse can be used with Pine. If set, and the $DISPLAY variable indicates that an X terminal is being used, the left mouse button on the mouse can be used to select text or commands. Note: if this feature is set, the behavior of X terminal cut-and-paste is also modified. It is necessary to hold the shift key down while clicking left or middle mouse buttons for the normal xterm cut/paste operations. Shawn M. Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA28265 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:12:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA15176; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:11:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA24740; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:10:31 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA46586 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:09:09 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA29774 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:09:03 -0700 Received: from tacom by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA06096; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:10:05 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 19:12:34 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Shawn Jeffries Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: out-mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Gwyneth.Evans@oberlin.edu X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@tacom X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 7 Oct 1997 Gwyneth.Evans@oberlin.edu wrote: >Is there any way to retrieve a message on Pine that I sent to someone? >Gwen Evans go to the main menu , type 'L', then try the 'sent-mail' folder . if that don't work, go to Main Menu, type 'S' , then 'C'. Look for this line -- default-fcc = sent-mail ^^^^^^^ make a note of what this part is, then go to the main menu , type 'L', and go to that folder. Shawn M. Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA02450 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:31:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA15726; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:30:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA26435; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:28:45 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA46254 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:28:16 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA00710 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:28:12 -0700 Received: from mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (h141-206-15-5.NCR.COM [141.206.15.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA22890 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:28:09 -0700 Received: from hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29123; Tue, 7 Oct 97 16:27:57 PDT Received: from localhost by hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18425; Tue, 7 Oct 97 16:27:36 PDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Steven Feinholz Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Feinholz To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Reading MIME emails Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: sf3@hostsw4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN A coworker sent me an email which is in MIME format. I have never worked with MIME formatting before. How do I view the data? I believe it originally came from an MS Word document. I am running PIne 3.96 on SunOS 4.1.4. Thanks. ________________________________________________________________________ | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 NCR | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 Parallel | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 Systems | 15-169 | Email: sf3@ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | Steven.Feinholz@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM ________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:34:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA03186 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA27921; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:34:04 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA16508; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:32:50 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA46672 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:32:11 -0700 Received: from ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (siteadm@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com [24.3.128.66]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA22205 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:32:10 -0700 Received: from luomat.peak.org ([24.2.83.40]) by ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA20537; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 20:32:08 -0700 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by luomat.peak.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id XAA15623; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 23:32:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148.RR) Message-Id: <199710080332.XAA15623@luomat.peak.org> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 97 23:32:04 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Reading MIME emails In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-To: Steven Feinholz X-Cc: luomat@peak.org X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b6.3) X-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/ X-NeXTStep-Url: http://www.peak.org/~luomat/next X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Steven Feinholz Original-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: > A coworker sent me an email which is in MIME > format. I have never worked with MIME formatting > before. It wouldn't happen to be application/ms-tnef would it? If so, 30 in a week is a lot ;-) If not, what type does it show up? TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA08988 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:50:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA22619; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:50:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA17331; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:49:23 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA30874 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:49:03 -0700 Received: from bay2.bjt.net (root@bay2.bjt.net [207.201.6.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA25071 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:49:00 -0700 Received: from gateway1 (kstevens@bjt-sj-ts2-dialup-m5.bjt.net [207.201.6.133]) by bay2.bjt.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA01751; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:43:06 -0700 Message-Id: <01bcd3ad$c7895380$8506c9cf@gateway1> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:48:15 -0700 Reply-To: "Ken Stevens" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ken Stevens" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: out-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yes, your messages sent should be in a folder called "sentmail" Ken -----Original Message----- From: Gwyneth.Evans@oberlin.edu To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Tuesday, October 07, 1997 4:02 PM Subject: out-mail >Is there any way to retrieve a message on Pine that I sent to someone? >Gwen Evans > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:52:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA02728 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:52:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA22639; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:52:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA26365; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:51:06 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA33032 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:50:47 -0700 Received: from mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (h141-206-15-5.NCR.COM [141.206.15.5]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id WAA25174 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:50:44 -0700 Received: from hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA21061; Tue, 7 Oct 97 22:49:39 PDT Received: from localhost by hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA18633; Tue, 7 Oct 97 22:49:37 PDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 22:49:37 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Steven Feinholz Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Feinholz To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Reading MIME emails In-Reply-To: <199710080332.XAA15623@luomat.peak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum , luomat@peak.org X-Sender: sf3@hostsw4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It shows up as APPLICATION/octet-stream. On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Author: Steven Feinholz > Original-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 16:27:36 -0700 (PDT) > Message-ID: > > > A coworker sent me an email which is in MIME > > format. I have never worked with MIME formatting > > before. > > It wouldn't happen to be application/ms-tnef would it? > > If so, 30 in a week is a lot ;-) > > If not, what type does it show up? > > TjL > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 NCR | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 Parallel | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 Systems | 15-169 | Email: sf3@ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | Steven.Feinholz@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM ________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 23:39:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA09656 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 23:39:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA00841; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 23:39:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA27801; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 23:38:36 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA09080 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 23:38:17 -0700 Received: from elf.ecitele.com (sprite1.ecitele.com [147.234.56.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id XAA05419 for ; Tue, 7 Oct 1997 23:38:12 -0700 Received: from vega (vega.ecitele.com [147.234.19.70]) by elf.ecitele.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA15848; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:36:35 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:38:15 +0200 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yossi Itzkovich To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Mouse cutNpaste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Shawn Jeffries X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: iyossi@vega X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Shawn Jeffries wrote: > from the Pine help under MAIN-SETUP-CONFIG > > FEATURE: enable-mouse-in-xterm > > This feature controls whether or not an X terminal mouse can be used with > Pine. If set, and the $DISPLAY variable indicates that an X terminal is > being used, the left mouse button on the mouse can be used to select text > or commands. > > Note: if this feature is set, the behavior of X terminal cut-and-paste is > also modified. It is necessary to hold the shift key down while clicking > left or middle mouse buttons for the normal xterm cut/paste operations. > > > > Shawn, Thanks for the reply BUT: My question was about using CUT/PASTE **Without** the SHIFT key ! I don't know how and when, but I remember that sometimes my Pine works as a real X-window without the use of the SHIFT key, and I don't know how to make it act like this. Thanks, Yossi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:25:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA10782 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA25305; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:25:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA23343; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:24:35 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA48514 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:24:06 -0700 Received: from elf.ecitele.com (sprite1.ecitele.com [147.234.56.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id CAA04920 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 02:24:01 -0700 Received: from vega (vega.ecitele.com [147.234.19.70]) by elf.ecitele.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id LAA06996 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:22:38 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:24:18 +0200 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yossi Itzkovich To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Beep when new mail arrives MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: iyossi@vega X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Is there a way to tell Pine not to beep when a new mail arrives but to use a different sound ( from an audio file etc.) ? Thank. Yossi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 04:52:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA14226 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 04:52:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA27354; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 04:52:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA26815; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 04:51:33 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA47216 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 04:51:10 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (root@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA18574 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 04:51:00 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA03439; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:22:31 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 08 Oct 1997 12:22:31 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Beep when new mail arrives In-Reply-To: Yossi Itzkovich's message of "Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:24:18 +0200 (IST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Yossi Itzkovich X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "YI" == Yossi Itzkovich writes: YI> Hi, Is there a way to tell Pine not to beep when a new mail YI> arrives but to use a different sound ( from an audio file etc.) ? That's not pine, that's biff. man biff and xemacs -nw ~/.profile should do the trick. Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. "Note that if I can get you to \"su and say\" something just by asking, you have a very serious security problem on your system and you should look into it." (By Paul Vixie, vixie-cron 3.0.1 installation notes) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA15322 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA28913; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:51:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA00667; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:48:42 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA13800 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:46:54 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id GAA24927 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 06:46:51 -0700 Received: from tacom by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA01511; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:47:19 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 09:49:48 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Shawn Jeffries Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Mouse cutNpaste In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Yossi Itzkovich X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@tacom X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Yossi Itzkovich wrote: >On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Shawn Jeffries wrote: > >> from the Pine help under MAIN-SETUP-CONFIG >> >> FEATURE: enable-mouse-in-xterm >> >> This feature controls whether or not an X terminal mouse can be used with >> Pine. If set, and the $DISPLAY variable indicates that an X terminal is >> being used, the left mouse button on the mouse can be used to select text >> or commands. >> >> Note: if this feature is set, the behavior of X terminal cut-and-paste is >> also modified. It is necessary to hold the shift key down while clicking >> left or middle mouse buttons for the normal xterm cut/paste operations. >> >> >> >> >Shawn, > >Thanks for the reply BUT: > >My question was about using CUT/PASTE **Without** the SHIFT key ! > >I don't know how and when, but I remember that sometimes my Pine works as >a real X-window without the use of the SHIFT key, and I don't know how to >make it act like this. > > > >Thanks, > >Yossi Yeah, the key words there were "If this feature is set". AFAIK, if you UN-SET this option, you should have normal cut'n'paste operation, but you'll lose the ability to click on the menu items. IOW : [X] enable-mouse-in-xterm --- left button used to select commands need to use SHIFT to cut'n'paste [ ] enable-mouse-in-xterm --- cannot select menu commands normal xterm cut'n'paste Hope this helps. Shawn M. Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:24:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA15988 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA29435; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:24:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA11448; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:19:06 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA22870 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:17:14 -0700 Received: from tcnet.org (jeff@tcnet.org [199.176.180.4]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA27300 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 07:17:10 -0700 Received: from localhost (jeff@localhost) by tcnet.org (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id KAA07885; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:16:40 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Jeff Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Beep when new mail arrives In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 8 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >> "YI" == Yossi Itzkovich writes: > > YI> Hi, Is there a way to tell Pine not to beep when a new mail > YI> arrives but to use a different sound ( from an audio file etc.) ? > > That's not pine, that's biff. man biff and xemacs -nw ~/.profile > should do the trick. Could be biff... Could be Pine. If you're in Pine when new mail arrives [or up to 2.5 mins after that, in most installations ;) ], Pine will beep. This is a bell character sent to your terminal. If you can change the sound your terminal makes when a bell character is seen, you can change this "beep". You can't change the sound for *just* Pine. You'll be changing it for any time your terminal sees a bell character. Good luck, -jeff -- Jeff - jeff@tcnet.org PGP Public Key available at http://tcnet.org/~jeff/pubkey.txt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:49:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA11849 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:49:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA01141; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:49:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA08909; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:46:19 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA16988 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:44:45 -0700 Received: from bilbo.mdh.se (bilbo.mdh.se [130.238.250.126]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA27655 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:44:40 -0700 Received: from localhost (dat95pkn@localhost) by bilbo.mdh.se (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23224 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:44:00 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:43:58 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Karlsson To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Reading MIME emails In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Warning: Junk / bulk email will be reported X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Steven Feinholz wrote: > How do I view the data? Unless you have a Word viewer installed on your Sun machine (I believe that those only are available for W*ndows and M*cIntosh anyway), you'll need to save the attachement to your home directory, transfer it to a PC/Mac somewhere, and read it into Word there. When viewing the message, press 'V', as in View, to get a list of the attachements. The attachement should be labelled either application/x-msword or application/octet-stream, or something similare. Place the cursor over it, and press 'S', as in Save, to save it to your home directory. Then transfer it to your PC/Mac with ftp or similar, and load it in with Word. -- \\// Peter - my other .signature has a cool remark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA13672 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:51:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA08726; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:50:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA08951; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:46:56 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA31622 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:45:48 -0700 Received: from bilbo.mdh.se (bilbo.mdh.se [130.238.250.126]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA05930 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 08:45:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (dat95pkn@localhost) by bilbo.mdh.se (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA23280 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:45:16 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:45:15 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Karlsson To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Beep when new mail arrives In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Warning: Junk / bulk email will be reported X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Yossi Itzkovich wrote: > Is there a way to tell Pine not to beep when a new mail arrives but to use > a different sound ( from an audio file etc.) ? Not without getting the Pine source code, and change the behaviour, no, I don't think so. Unfortunately. -- \\// Peter - my other .signature has a cool remark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA21289 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:58:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA04742; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:58:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA20875; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:54:21 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA48750 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:53:21 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com ([209.80.13.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA20797 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:53:19 -0700 Received: from colin-raven (ip23.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.23]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA38280; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 17:54:18 GMT Message-Id: <199710081754.RAA38280@ns3.quik.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 10:50:36 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: out-mail X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" , X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well Good Gwen, no-one was being patronizing. The list exists to help all those from the absolute and complete beginner (the one's that it's amazing they can even find the "On" switch) right through systems administrators looking to alter some configuaration files system wide for user groups. You wrote to the list, no-one could guage your level of expertise or familiarity with Pine, or email in any form for that matter of it, and the list will attempt to help anyone who emails a question (within reason) Sooo...you got an answer. You should think carefully before telling anyone who genuinely attempted to help you (sight unseen) that they are being patronizing. I shall publish your response to me to the list, (since you should always reply to the list as well as, but not instead of individuals) so that the others who also tried to be of assistance can bathe in the warmth of your kind and thankful reply, and get that nice warm glow that comes from helping others, and being of service. I'm so glad though, that you DID in fact find what you needed at the end of the day. Perhaps that's what counts. ---------- > From: Gwyneth.Evans@oberlin.edu > To: Colin J. Raven > Subject: Re: out-mail > Date: Wednesday, October 08, 1997 10:04 AM > > Okay, we can stop being patronizing now. That folder never existed in the > first place for me. I can read, I am not a moron. I have everything > under control. > Gwen > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA21706 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA05304; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:17:29 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA50084; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:13:20 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA26614 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:12:20 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com ([209.80.13.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA23433 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:12:12 -0700 Received: from colin-raven (ip23.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.23]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA26188; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 18:13:04 GMT Message-Id: <199710081813.SAA26188@ns3.quik.com> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:09:21 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: out-mail X-To: "Pine Discussion Forum" , X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Accepted with pleasure, you didn't hurt anyone believe me. I read the frustration in your reply, and well understood it. Glad to be of service (so I guess are many others, that's why your Inbox gets flooded with many similar replies) Don't forget to post to the list as well as individuals when you reply. If you need further help, I do encourage you to post to the list, it is of assistance many times, but give the FAQ's a try, they can be helpful Good luck to you! Colin ---------- > From: Gwyneth.Evans@oberlin.edu > To: Colin J. Raven > Subject: Re: out-mail > Date: Wednesday, October 08, 1997 10:58 AM > > Okay, I'm sorry. I apologize truly and sincerely. I was just tired of > getting so many answers much like that one, that after a while they became > redundant. Again, I'm sorry. I never meant to hurt anyone. Thank you > for all that you do to help people like me, who really should be more > grateful. > Gwen > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA22192 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:47:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA13897; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:47:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA25462; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:43:25 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA47844 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:42:57 -0700 Received: from mailsorter-101.bryant.webtv.net (mailsorter-101.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.91]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA20502 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:42:53 -0700 Received: from mailtod-103.bryant.webtv.net (mailtod-103.iap.bryant.webtv.net [207.79.35.83]) by mailsorter-101.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/ms.graham.14Aug97) with ESMTP id LAA19432; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from production@localhost) by mailtod-103.bryant.webtv.net (8.8.5/mt.graham.14Aug97) id LAA18597; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199710081842.LAA18597@mailtod-103.bryant.webtv.net> Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 11:42:40 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: TMGraves@webtv.net (Tina Graves) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Please send info on free cash grants for medical claims home busines Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:06:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA22959 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:06:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA14412; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:05:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA26993; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:03:15 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA53182 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:02:41 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA00403 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:02:32 -0700 Received: from monroe.lib.mi.us (monroe.lib.mi.us [198.108.98.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA14334 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:02:29 -0700 Received: from localhost by monroe.lib.mi.us (8.6.12/2.2) with SMTP id PAA17548; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:02:27 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:02:26 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lillian Sasfy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: printer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm having trouble printing any messages, mail or info coming through pine I have trouble when it comes through telnet or microsoft. I have no problem in any other program like Quicken or Word. My printer is an Okidata 92 but is installed as a genetic because it is not IBM compatible and doesn't work unless it is installed as a genetic. when I'm in pine through telnet it doesn't work at all. When I'm in Microsoft it prints several times over and is unreadable. lsasfy@monroe.lib.mi.us From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA23057 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA06611; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:12:54 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA43494; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:06:50 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA40312 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:06:17 -0700 Received: from sjfc.edu (sjfc.edu [149.69.1.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA23554 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 12:06:14 -0700 Received: from prong by sjfc.edu (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/12Aug97-0226PM) id AA25755; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 15:01:18 -0400 Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19971008150617.006b36bc@sjfc.edu> Date: Wed, 08 Oct 1997 15:06:17 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dave Prong To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Configuring for news reading Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Cc: prong@sjfc.edu X-Sender: prong@sjfc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am configuring Pine for news reading. I have the news server on the same machine as Pine. The nntp-server setting is sjfc.edu Upon reading the tech-notes for version 3.96 (Alpha 4000), I found that I can leave the news-collections variable unset (see below): When I attempted to configure this way, I exited Pine, re-entered, and went to my folder List screen. I have the screen divided into 2: the top half is my mail folder collections, the bottom my news collections with the groups in my .newsrc listed. When I highlight a group and press ENTER, I get a message that says [502 no permission to read that group]. When I press A to subscribe to a group and then ^T to list all groups, I get a message that says [>No groups to select from!<]. I tried this from my personal account and from the root account with the same results. I'm trying to read this with dnews. Can anyone help? Dave Prong, Assistant Director Computer Services St. John Fisher College 3690 East Avenue Rochester, NY 14618 (716)385-8019 prong@sjfc.edu http://www.sjfc.edu "We are born with 3 rights: life, liberty, and the pursuit of baseball" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA31842 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA25599; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:25:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA09253; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:24:15 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA49724 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:23:32 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA17630 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:23:30 -0700 Received: from hubcap.clemson.edu (hubcap.clemson.edu [130.127.8.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA17562 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:23:28 -0700 Received: from diogenes (diogenes.cs.clemson.edu [130.127.48.4]) by hubcap.clemson.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA14645 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:23:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mahogany.cs.clemson.edu by diogenes (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA08111; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:25:21 -0400 Received: from localhost by mahogany.cs.clemson.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA08529; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:25:17 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ishraq Ahmed To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mailing list MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: ahmed@mahogany X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please include me in the pine-info mailing list. I am a very regular user of pine and I want to receive ANY information regarding pine. -Ishraq Ahmed Graduate Teaching Assistant Dept of Computer Science G16 Jordan Hall, Clemson University Clemson, SC 29634 Ph. (864) 656-2840 -------------------------------------------------------- __ ISHRAQ AHMED, Teaching Assistant / \ Dept of Computer Science / _ \ __ CLEMSON UNIVERSITY / /_| | / / /____ | ____ / /___ __ __ ____ _____ / / / ___| / ___ | | /__/ / /__ | / __ | / / /_'-, / / / / / /____/ ___/ / / / / / ___/ / ___/ / / / / / / / / _ / / /_/ / /____/ /____/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /____/ /___ / / / http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~ahmed /_/ -------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:48:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA31874 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:48:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA17959; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:48:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA10591; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:40:51 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA46224 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:40:26 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA18962 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:40:25 -0700 Received: from netgate.comintur.com.uy (netgate.comintur.com.uy [206.99.53.130]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA17836 for ; Wed, 8 Oct 1997 20:40:12 -0700 Received: from netgate.com.uy ([206.99.53.11]) by netgate.comintur.com.uy (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA19805 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:40:04 -0200 (PDT) Message-Id: <344AD2BC.AF6FBFCB@netgate.com.uy> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:40:44 -0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Nicolas Escandell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: listserv group for soundgarden MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:09:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA29821 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA28700; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:09:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA20033; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:07:18 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA33318 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:06:26 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA07497 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:06:24 -0700 Received: from hub.nic.in (hub.nic.in [164.100.10.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id AAA28652 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 00:06:13 -0700 Received: from hub.nic.in by hub.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA13749; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 12:31:09 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 12:31:08 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: CENTRAL WAREHOUSE CORP Mr BATRA To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: To MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The Coordinator Please send me all details about internet and e-mail no of some medical library of Washington to go through the Otology or ENT generals. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 04:49:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA28087 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 04:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA02259; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 04:49:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA17916; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 04:48:36 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA53628 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 04:47:56 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA19180 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 04:47:53 -0700 Received: from bretweir.total.net (bretweir.total.net [205.236.175.106]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA24058 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 04:47:50 -0700 Received: from total.net (ppp-annex-0402.mtl.total.net [205.205.162.84]) by bretweir.total.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAA18030 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 07:47:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <343CC3F0.7A541FAA@total.net> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 07:45:53 -0400 Reply-To: lbjork@total.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lloyd Bjork To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: MS-TNEF MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I see the question posed by a Don Sugarman re: TS-NEF attachments. I have the same problem but I could not find the answer. I would appreciate some help. Thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 05:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA05412 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 05:06:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA02442; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 05:06:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA27217; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 05:05:36 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA53530 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 05:05:06 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA17532 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 05:05:02 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA07216; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 14:05:23 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 09 Oct 1997 14:05:22 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: MS-TNEF In-Reply-To: Lloyd Bjork's message of "Thu, 09 Oct 1997 07:45:53 -0400" References: <343CC3F0.7A541FAA@total.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: lbjork@total.net X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "LB" == Lloyd Bjork writes: LB> I see the question posed by a Don Sugarman re: TS-NEF LB> attachments. I have the same problem but I could not find the LB> answer. I would appreciate some help. I see the question posed by lbjork@total.net re: TS-NEF attachments. I have no problem, and I could not find any, either. However, I'd like to suggest that you get a copy of netiquette and READ IT before you write to a mailing list EVER again. Also, you might want to learn to consult the help that is available via the internet: and the pine information center (location to be found in the documentation that came along with your program). Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Windows without the X is like making love without a partner. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA07633 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:28:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA27117; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:28:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA07631; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:25:26 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA11250 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:24:17 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA28270 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:24:12 -0700 Received: from mail.istar.ca (iSTAR.ca [204.191.136.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA27033 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 08:24:07 -0700 Received: from 198.53.5.222 [198.53.5.222] by mail.istar.ca with smtp (Exim 1.70 #1) id 0xJKRj-0002DB-00; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 11:24:15 -0400 Message-Id: <343D0407.6CD1@istar.ca> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 11:19:19 -0500 Reply-To: multicom@istar.ca Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Susan Demay To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: binhex40 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.11/msg00679.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! Could you please tell me where I can get access to binhex40. We already have Stuffit expander, but I can not open the binhex files on my Mac - Even if they are sent from another Mac. Thanks for your help. Susan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA32530 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:34:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA07071; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:34:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA14288; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:31:25 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA46120 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:28:57 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA10972 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:28:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA11868; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:28:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mailing list In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ishraq Ahmed X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Instructions on how to subscribe are at http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/subscribing.html ---------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu ---------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 8 Oct 1997, Ishraq Ahmed wrote: & From: Ishraq Ahmed & To: Pine Discussion Forum & Date: Wed, 8 Oct 1997 23:25:17 -0400 (EDT) & Subject: mailing list & & & Please include me in the pine-info mailing list. & I am a very regular user of pine and I want to receive ANY information & regarding pine. & & -Ishraq Ahmed & & Graduate Teaching Assistant & Dept of Computer Science & G16 Jordan Hall, & Clemson University & Clemson, SC 29634 & Ph. (864) 656-2840 & -------------------------------------------------------- & __ ISHRAQ AHMED, Teaching Assistant & / \ Dept of Computer Science & / _ \ __ CLEMSON UNIVERSITY & / /_| | / / & /____ | ____ / /___ __ __ ____ _____ & / / / ___| / ___ | | /__/ / /__ | / __ | & / / /_'-, / / / / / /____/ ___/ / / / / / & ___/ / ___/ / / / / / / / / _ / / /_/ / & /____/ /____/ /_/ /_/ /_/ /____/ /___ / & / / & http://www.cs.clemson.edu/~ahmed /_/ & -------------------------------------------------------- & & From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA09864 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:37:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA07159; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:37:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA05400; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:33:54 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA27480 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:32:35 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA07121 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:32:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA11926; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:32:19 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 09:32:17 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: listserv group for soundgarden In-Reply-To: <344AD2BC.AF6FBFCB@netgate.com.uy> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nicolas Escandell X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Nicolas, If you're trying to ask about where to find a listserv on a specific subject, you have written to the wrong mailing list -- pine-info is about the Pine email program. For finding a mailing list, try some of the resources at http://www.washington.edu/nic/forums.html ---------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu ---------------------------------------------------- On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Nicolas Escandell wrote: & From: Nicolas Escandell & To: Pine Discussion Forum & Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:40:44 -0300 & Subject: listserv group for soundgarden & & & & From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:47:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA15969 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:47:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA13977; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:47:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA26623; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:44:10 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA33080 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:41:53 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA10525 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:41:49 -0700 Received: from VMSVAX.SIMMONS.EDU (vmsvax.simmons.edu [134.140.112.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA06163 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 13:41:45 -0700 Received: from VMSVAX.SIMMONS.EDU by VMSVAX.SIMMONS.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #20461) id <01IOLYIVEKTE8WYLE8@VMSVAX.SIMMONS.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 16:37:42 EDT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 16:37:41 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Christine Welch To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: printer problem MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi there! I got this address from the web about help with Mac printers. I was wondering if you knew of any software that I could download in order to reconfigure a LaserWriter Select 360 so that it no longers prints Test Pattern Sheets before printing a document. Thank you for youe help. Christine Welch From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA22721 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:43:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA13643; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:43:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA18650; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:41:51 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA09210 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:40:18 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA14500 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:40:16 -0700 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA21203 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:40:14 -0700 Received: from dante27.u.washington.edu (sspeck@dante27.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.101]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA43392 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:40:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (sspeck@localhost) by dante27.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id SAA26626 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:40:12 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 18:40:12 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "S. Speck" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: having problems with my e-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Everytime I write a message after a certain amount of time the message leaves and the screen go to the Dial-Up network. It isn't because I am on the 15 minute limit because I was connected to the student 28.8 so I'm not sure what is going on? If you could give me some suggestions that would be great. I can't figure out how to retrieve those messages so I'm not sure if my friends are getting the messages or if they are just being erased. Anyhow. . .if you could help me that would be great! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13728 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:32:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA21914; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:32:01 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA11244; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:30:37 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA34364 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:29:52 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA13682 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:29:51 -0700 Received: from intrepid.net (newhites@intrepid.net [204.71.127.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA14290 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 19:29:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (newhites@localhost) by intrepid.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id WAA19303 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 22:31:27 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 9 Oct 1997 22:31:27 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Benda To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Garbage on screen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Why does the following always show up on my screen when I start to compose an e-mail message? It has only been doing this for the last month or so. What can I do to get rid of it? (I know I can use control-K, but that 'garbage' shouldn't show up on my screen.) v V+&0%vRe z_4gwi *E From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:39:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA26137 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:39:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA17637; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:39:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA02802; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:38:51 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA27038 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:38:28 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA00524 for ; Thu, 9 Oct 1997 23:38:25 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:37:48 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 14:37:48 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Garbage on screen In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David Benda X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 9 Oct 1997, David Benda wrote: > Why does the following always show up on my screen when I start to compose > an e-mail message? It has only been doing this for the last month or so. > What can I do to get rid of it? (I know I can use control-K, but that > 'garbage' shouldn't show up on my screen.) > > v V+&0%vRe > > z_4gwi > *E Is it possible you have this in your "signature" file? >From the M(ain) menu go to S(etup), S(ignature) and take a look. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA31943 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA24511; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:25:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA22550; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:22:21 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA17752 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:21:27 -0700 Received: from kanin.arnes.si (kanin.arnes.si [193.2.1.66]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA26153 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 08:21:22 -0700 Received: from razor.arnes.si by kanin.arnes.si with SMTP using DNS (PP) id <20481-0@kanin.arnes.si>; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:21:10 +0200 Received: from Alpha (ssdipola@ppp13-ms2.arnes.si [193.2.30.113]) by razor.arnes.si (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA24475 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:20:45 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:21:58 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Newsfetch + pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: ssdipola@Alpha X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! I'm using newsfetch as offline news reader and i want to make that pine will move my read news to dir 'news' or smth (like the command in pine, that will move your read mail). How can i do this??? Bye. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00101 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA25516; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:03:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA26616; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:01:06 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA38266 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:00:15 -0700 Received: from firewall.cbbs.co.uk (colint@cbbs.demon.co.uk [158.152.147.251]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00547 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:00:12 -0700 Received: from localhost (colint@localhost) by firewall.cbbs.co.uk (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA14341 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:00:27 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:00:27 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Colin Turner To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Limit pine attachment sizes. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello I am sure this is a question that has been asked many times before. Is there any way to limit the size of the attachment a user can send from within Pine? I also have a customer that wishes to prevent some pine users from E-mailing to external addresses, has anyone come up with a way to do this? Thanks in advance. Colin #! Colin Turner Systems Integrator CB Business Systems colint@cbbs.demon.co.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:17:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01034 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA03617; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:17:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA27845; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:13:17 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA47394 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:11:54 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA05561 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 09:11:05 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:10:17 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 00:10:17 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Limit pine attachment sizes. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Colin Turner X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, Colin Turner wrote: > I am sure this is a question that has been asked many times before. Actually, I don't recall it having been asked. > Is there any way to limit the size of the attachment a user can send from > within Pine? Not from within pine. > I also have a customer that wishes to prevent some pine users from > E-mailing to external addresses, has anyone come up with a way to do this? Yes. But it requires you have an intelligent MTA. I'm not sure, but generic sendmail, while quite good, is not capable of this sort of thing. You need to get an MTA which can allow you to set rules on what goes out on a per receipient and a per orginator basis. I could recommend such an MTA if you are interested. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA02922 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:59:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA28406; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:59:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA15257; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:55:30 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA22792 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:53:42 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA14327 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:53:40 -0700 Received: from freenet.grfn.org (root@grfn.org [206.30.236.51]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA06199 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:53:37 -0700 Received: from freenet.grfn.org (kowalsm@grfn.org [206.30.236.51]) by freenet.grfn.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA28514 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:46:40 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "M. Aaron Kowalski" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: I hope someone can help me... MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've been experiencing a problem with PINE, as of this morning... I'll try to describe what's happened-and I hope someone can get back to me quickly-if you've had the same problem or know what's going on. This has never happened to be except for TODAY-and it hasn't gone away yet, but-when I select PINE... It hangs for about 10 seconds on the main screen...while saying OPENING INBOX <->...then says "TRYING TO GET MAILBOX FROM LOCK PROCESS 22214"/"MAILBOX IS OPEN BY ANOTHER PROCESS, ACCESS IS READ ONLY" And so, I'm unable to delete my incoming messages from my INBOX...and the e-mail's are piling up... I hope someone is able to help. -MaThEw From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:00:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA26028 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:00:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA06354; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:00:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA15542; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:58:02 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA15388 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:57:10 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA14686 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:57:09 -0700 Received: from rccmbx.sunyrockland.edu (RCCMBX.SUNYROCKLAND.EDU [192.203.40.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA28349 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 10:57:06 -0700 Received: from rcclnk.sunyrockland.edu by RCCMBX.SUNYROCKLAND.EDU (PMDF V5.1-7 #18385) with ESMTP id <01ION773QBB20003NH@RCCMBX.SUNYROCKLAND.EDU> for pine-info@CAC.Washington.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:57:05 EST Received: from RCCLNK.SUNYROCKLAND.EDU by RCCLNK.SUNYROCKLAND.EDU (PMDF V5.1-10 #18385) id <01ION76PVUXS00055O@RCCLNK.SUNYROCKLAND.EDU> for pine-info@CAC.Washington.edu; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:56:46 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 13:56:46 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: nkreitzer@sunyrockland.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: NKREITZER@sunyrockland.edu X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am NKreitzer@ SUNYRockland.edu and am having a problem with pine. Yesterday I pushed "help" becuase several times I could neither send nor keep a reply to an email I had received. When I pressed the "help?" function, my printer began prewing forth endless pages called "Release Notes for Pine..A Program for Internet News and Email. I cannot get out of this mode, although I shut off my computer on October 9th and went home. Today, October 10th, when I turned the printer on again, it kep printing this same material even though I was not in "pine" mode. Someone local has yet to take a look at my computer and printer, but, meanwhile I cannot use anything. What gives? N. Kreitzer From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03604 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:18:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA28820; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:18:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA17059; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:14:28 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA19448 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:13:11 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA17281 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:13:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (skramer@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA12419; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:13:02 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 11:12:53 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Stefan Kramer Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: ms-tnef attachments In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: jtringal@polymail.cpunix.calpoly.edu, dtudor@frs-inc.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The PINE Questions & Answers list contains "4.6 How can I control association of MIME-attachments with applications and filenames?" at http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/custom.html which gives a few examples ("application/ms-tnef" not among them ;-) of configuring PINE to handle some MIME types. Adding all kinds of types to the examples would make it rather unwieldy, so the advice of others to check Dejanews for discussion of attachments of dubious type is a good one (with a search filter to target the newsgroup comp.mail.mime perhaps). The best advice I found there that's, IMHO, within the tolerance limits of what an email recipient could be expected to do is to ask the sender to resend the message turning off tnef-sending; perhaps with a note explaining that this is likely to cause problems for other recipients of the sender's messages as well. ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu Computing & Communications University of Washington ------------------------------------------------------------ On Tue, 7 Oct 1997, Jenny Tringale wrote: & I'm not sure if I'm asking the right person, but I have a question. I & use netscape and I received a letter with some sort of attachment that & said 2.1 and then "application/ms-tnef" Do you have any idea what I & need to download to read the mail? On Mon, 6 Oct 1997, Dorothy Tudor wrote: & If you could help me. I have received an e-mail with an & application/ms-tnef attached. & I do not know what to do with it. Please e-mail me at dtudor@frs-inc.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:13:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA11048 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:13:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA15105; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:13:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA14203; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:11:18 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA18694 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:10:43 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA25567 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:10:40 -0700 Received: from iac8.navix.net (iac8.navix.net [207.91.5.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA15066 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:10:38 -0700 Received: from iac6.navix.net (iac6.navix.net [207.91.5.4]) by iac8.navix.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA16894 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:10:36 -0500 Received: from bill (xyp91p17.ltec.net [205.242.147.27]) by iac6.navix.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA49970 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:10:34 -0500 Message-Id: <343EE024.17B3@navix.net> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 19:10:45 -0700 Reply-To: wk52651@navix.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Bill Klein To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: payment for answering questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have notthing but time on my hands. ajax13@mailcity.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:54:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA10839 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:54:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA15821; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:53:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA16049; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:52:29 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA47278 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:52:08 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA28509 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 17:52:05 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 08:51:25 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 08:51:25 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: payment for answering questions In-Reply-To: <343EE024.17B3@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bill Klein X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, Bill Klein wrote: > I have notthing but time on my hands. ajax13@mailcity.com Take up a hobby. I'd suggest bird watching. That'll be $10.00, please. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA09234 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:53:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA08679; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:53:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA11349; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:52:04 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA25512 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:50:36 -0700 Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id SAA01998 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:50:24 -0700 Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (batchman) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xJqhC-0002Yy-00; Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:50:22 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Oct 1997 18:50:21 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Sometime Next Week Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sometime Next Week To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: payment for answering questions In-Reply-To: <343EE024.17B3@navix.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: batchman@slip-3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 10 Oct 1997, Bill Klein wrote: > I have notthing but time on my hands. ajax13@mailcity.com I have nothing but hands on my time. sleep@dawn.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:02:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA21839 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA20131; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:02:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA06133; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:00:38 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA47528 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:59:42 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA10955 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:59:40 -0700 Received: from mail.perf.bc.ca (root@PERF.PERF.BC.CA [204.244.197.252]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA28285 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:59:38 -0700 Received: from ppp.perf.bc.ca (PPP21.PERF.BC.CA [204.244.197.21]) by mail.perf.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA01174 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 11:45:08 -0700 Message-Id: <343FCD1E.5775@perf.bc.ca> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 12:01:50 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pip To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: x-uuencode MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi, I was wondering if someone would help me with this type of code, its x-uuencode.I am always getting mail with this type of gibberish and I cant decode it.I am a new pc user and I would be very grateful if someone would help me out. thankyou in advance, yours, Pip. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:38:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA23952 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22705; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:38:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA19529; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:36:34 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA27252 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:35:37 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22510 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:35:36 -0700 Received: from mail01.ozramp.net.au ([203.36.35.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22677 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 15:35:33 -0700 Received: from default (mel-208.ozramp.net.au [203.17.73.237]) by mail01.ozramp.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12461 for ; Sun, 12 Oct 1997 08:35:28 +1000 Message-Id: <343FFF82.331ECF6C@ozramp.net.au> Date: Sun, 12 Oct 1997 08:36:51 +1000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Williams To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: from Sue Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello: I am wondering if I may put this up on your bulletin board please? I am writing to ask and appeal if anyone has any teddy bears they may no longer want. I am writing for my very disabled and incurably ill son Matthew. You can read about Matthew at http://www.ckcreative.com/williams.htm Matthew LOVES teddy bears. To him they are the friends he has never had. He gives to them and they to him much much love. We are trying to arrange a big surprise for him. If you have a teddy bear you may no longer want and you would like to give it to Matthew, our address is PO Box 959 Noble Park 3174 Melbourne VIC Australia With my best wishes and biggest thankyou from his very proud and loving Mama Sue From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA25606 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA25874; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:39:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA23547; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:37:55 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA46850 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:37:06 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA03897 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:36:38 -0700 Received: from hotmail.com (F47.hotmail.com [207.82.250.58]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id UAA25809 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:36:35 -0700 Received: (qmail 3377 invoked by uid 0); 12 Oct 1997 03:36:04 -0000 Received: from 208.220.25.191 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:36:04 PDT Message-Id: <19971012033604.3376.qmail@hotmail.com> Date: Sat, 11 Oct 1997 20:36:04 PDT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "The Tiaet" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Go To Content-Type: text/plain X-To: whir@concentric.net, PucksterPete@Nomad.Net, "webmaster@bsoftware.com" RFC822 Gateway. Actually, some of the headers suggest that it may have gone RFC822--->X.400--->RFC822 This header > X400-Content-Type: P2 indicates that the X.400 system is 1984 compliant. There were many "broken" gateways back then and some folks haven't gotten around to upgrading their systems. The message came thru nic.in but we have similar troubles with messages passing thru vsnl.net.in Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA28076 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:07:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA03305; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:07:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA05461; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:04:52 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA22724 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:03:12 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA10371 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:03:10 -0700 Received: from ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (miaolu@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.45]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA25152 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 19:03:08 -0700 Received: from localhost (miaolu@localhost) by ux5.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA29689 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:03:06 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 21:03:05 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: miao lu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: ux5.cso.uiuc.edu: miaolu owned process doing -bs X-Sender: miaolu@ux5.cso.uiuc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN my box "sent-mail" is always locked. so how can i do ? cos i can't sent email now. miao 559 sherman hall 909 s. 5th st. champaign IL 61820-6284 217-332-4866(h) 217-333-2435(o) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:32:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA21420 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA27598; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:32:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA12323; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:30:23 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA48516 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:29:15 -0700 Received: from nucleus.com (watchman@nucleus.com [199.45.65.129]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA20072 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 22:29:14 -0700 Received: from localhost (watchman@localhost) by nucleus.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id XAA17670 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 1997 23:37:34 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 17 Oct 1997 23:37:34 -0600 (MDT) Reply-To: Tom Hennessy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Tom Hennessy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: LOCKED FOLDER In-Reply-To: <199710180459.VAA16402@lists3.u.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am running Pine off my server. I have been downloading articles off the net and saving them in various folders. The one folder I have been using extensively has locked me out. I spoke to my server and they informed me that I have used too much space in the folder. It contains over one thousand articles. My server said "Pine doesn't like it when you save too much in one folder." I tried to access the folder and my computer gave the message 'exceeded users disc space'.. and then it created a folder of the same name but with the word.. lock.. at the end. DISEASE DISEASE.lock I cannot access the original DISEASE folder. Everytime I try to open the folder it refuses and terminates the connection. I asked my server HOW can I access the folder and possible remove to another folder a percentage of the articles contained therein .. enabling me to read the articles in that folder. They could not tell me how to do it. They said you can ZMODEM download the folder but I am not proficient at this and I have no clue what they are talking about. I am hoping someone may be able to give me a clue how to enter the folder and correct the user space quota?? Any help/insight appreciated. Tom watchman@nucleus.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 05:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA01981 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 05:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA03031; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 05:43:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA19857; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 05:41:32 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA22138 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 05:39:59 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id FAA04990 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 05:39:57 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 18 Oct 97 14:39:42 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id KAA23951; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 10:12:19 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 18 Oct 1997 10:12:18 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: LOCKED FOLDER In-Reply-To: Tom Hennessy's message of "Fri, 17 Oct 1997 23:37:34 -0600 (MDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tom Hennessy X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "TH" == Tom Hennessy writes: [...] TH> My server said "Pine doesn't like it when you save too much in TH> one folder." [...] TH> They said you can ZMODEM download the folder but I am not proficient TH> at this and I have no clue what they are talking about. I am hoping TH> someone may be able to give me a clue how to enter the folder and TH> correct the user space quota?? Actually, your help desk people seem to be a little dense. Well, whatever... Basically, your question has nothing to do with pine, and is answered in the FAQ and the user-guide, both of which are available from the U of Washington. You do not, however, need to run zModem (which is totally out of date, anyway), but can either make your help desk people show you how to copy the files on a disk or use ftp to get those files home. If you have some free space on another partition, you could also run a program like MHonArc to store your messages and then take them home in html format (if you don't have pine at home). Have fun, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA02452 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA03410; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:19:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA20779; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:18:17 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA30240 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:17:03 -0700 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA10927 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:17:02 -0700 Received: from indy4 (pfarabee@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA08451 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 08:16:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 08:16:33 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Delete attchmnt In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > I never simile and - hey, guess what! I don't even use pine. The editor > gave me the creeps. Will 4.0 have a proper editor? Will it have full > pgp integration? I'd certainly say "thank you" for that. Hehe... but > then again, I could use mutt right away now. It even has *urgh* colours Which editor gave you the creeps? And as for pgp integration, If you are willing to try a pine filter written in perl, I can get you about as close as you can get. Pat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:47:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA02814 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:47:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA11684; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:47:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA25771; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:46:16 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA36044 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:44:08 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id GAA21382 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 06:44:06 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 18 Oct 97 15:43:51 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA31312; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:33:36 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 18 Oct 1997 14:33:34 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Delete attchmnt In-Reply-To: Noone Special's message of "Sat, 18 Oct 1997 08:16:33 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Noone Special X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> Regarding Re: Delete attchmnt; Noone Special >> adds: NS> Which editor gave you the creeps? Pico of course. It's an abomination. But so is XEmacs, which I use, so let's not start another Holy War here. Anyone checked mcedit? Nice one, too... ;-) NS> And as for pgp integration, If you are willing to try a pine NS> filter written in perl, I can get you about as close as you can NS> get. As I said, I don't use pine anymore, but I spent a good time raving about pgp-integration about a year ago. And yes, I have pgp-pine by Roland Rosenfeld and papp by Aldo Valente. But it's just not *it*. Lauch XEmacs with Gnus and fire up mailcrypt. This is what I would like to see in pine, because it's easy to use and flexible. Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:58:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA05638 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA16246; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:58:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA04617; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:56:54 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA17426 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:53:39 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA19719 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:53:37 -0700 Received: from vcn.bc.ca (siberian@opus.vcn.bc.ca [207.102.64.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA16195 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:53:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (siberian@localhost) by vcn.bc.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA16183; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:53:18 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Suzan Gregg To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: help In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info X-Cc: Suzan Gregg X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 17 Oct 1997, Suzan Gregg wrote: In Pine 3.95 : 1> how do I change the order of entries in the address book ? 2> how do I down load (and/or print) individual Email messages from the 'mailbox' ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:15:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA01711 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:15:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA16458; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:15:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA06672; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:13:48 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA41456 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:12:53 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA06873 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 13:12:50 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 18 Oct 97 22:12:35 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA09407; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:09:35 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 18 Oct 1997 21:09:30 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: Suzan Gregg's message of "Sat, 18 Oct 1997 12:53:18 -0700 (PDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Suzan Gregg X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "SG" == Suzan Gregg writes: 1> how do I change the order of entries in the address book ? Guess what... There's a cute little "?" at the bottom of the screen that says "Help". --------------------------- | Sorting the Address book | --------------------------- By default, address book entries are sorted alphabetically on the full name with distribution lists sorted to the end. Sorting can be changed by resetting the address book sort rule in the Pine SETUP CONFIGURATION screen --assuming you have "write" permission for the address book file. Unlike the sorting of folders (which only changes presentation), sorting an address book actually changes the file as it is kept on the computer. For this reason you may not be able to sort a shared or system-wide address book. SG> how do I down load (and/or print) individual Email messages from SG> the 'mailbox' ? And yes, there's another "?". Hit that key, say "w" for WhereIs [1] and say "print" or "export". That should do the trick. Robin Footnotes: [1] This is a *weird* abbrev ;-) -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Purity score 43.25% (purity 400) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:34:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA06604 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:34:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA17386; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:34:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA13207; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:32:00 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA14328 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:31:34 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA02879 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:31:33 -0700 Received: from mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA17364 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 14:31:30 -0700 Received: from [12.68.132.10] by mtigwc03.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with SMTP id AAA3512 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 21:30:58 +0000 Message-Id: <3448F2AA.2B96@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 17:32:26 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Kenneth DeFilippo To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-URL: http://www1.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/95.05/msg00756.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please let me know how I can delete news group messages after I have read them by using my icons at the top of the screen, or let me know how I can click on a control area to modify how I receive news group mail, or how I can delete news group messages in masses......thank you very much..... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:24:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA08474 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:24:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA12046; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:24:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA08902; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:22:06 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA29450 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:21:11 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA04541 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:21:09 -0700 Received: from belize.ucs.indiana.edu (belize.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.10.64]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA20130 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 18:21:06 -0700 Received: from juliet.ucs.indiana.edu (juliet.ucs.indiana.edu [129.79.5.203]) by belize.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5/1.13IUPO) with ESMTP id UAA03500 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:21:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (mafoster@localhost) by juliet.ucs.indiana.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3/1.8shakes) with SMTP id UAA29501 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:21:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Oct 1997 20:21:03 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mark Foster To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: BUG ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: mafoster@juliet.ucs.indiana.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It seems that every weekend I get a list of all the e-mails that I have deleted from my in-box RETURNED TO MY IN-BOX so that I have to delete them all again. This is perhaps the THIRD TIME this has occurred. What's up? Mark G. Foster 1st year MBA - Finance/Entrepreneurship Gold 10 mafoster@indiana.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:41:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA10521 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:40:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA15031; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:40:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA05129; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:38:28 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA12224 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:37:11 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA00880 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:37:09 -0700 Received: from fallback.mail.pipex.net (tide.mail.pipex.net [158.43.192.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id WAA14996 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 22:37:07 -0700 Received: (qmail 9212 invoked from network); 19 Oct 1997 05:37:01 -0000 Received: from sah2.ye (HELO sah2.y.net.ye) (195.94.0.35) by relay2.pipex.net with SMTP; 19 Oct 1997 05:37:01 -0000 Received: from DEFAULT (DEFAULT [195.94.0.74]) by sah2.y.net.ye (NTMail 3.02.13) with ESMTP id xa094299 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:41:55 +0100 Message-Id: <01bcdc50$e0b0aa60$4a005ec3@y.net.ye.195.94.0.35> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:35:58 +0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Jamal Adimi" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01BCDC6A.05FDE260" X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Info: Y.net Mail Server - Service with Smile X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BCDC6A.05FDE260 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i need names of news servers, can u help. 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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01BCDC6A.05FDE260-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:34:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA08520 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:34:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA15576; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:34:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA11833; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:32:36 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA27476 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:31:07 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA18028 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:31:05 -0700 Received: from giasbmc.vsnl.net.in (giasbmc.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id XAA15546 for ; Sat, 18 Oct 1997 23:31:00 -0700 Received: from localhost by giasbmc.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA27267; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:58:14 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:58:14 -0500 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "SRIDHAR.DINESH.RAO" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN there seems to be a bug in this ...pine e-mail...that i am using. the problem is that...... when i use the arrow keys ,the following texe appe appears Do bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo blinlinlinlinlino bo blinlinlinlinlino bo bo bo bo blinlinlinlino bo bo bo bo bo blib[[[o bo blino bo bo bo bo bo blinlinlinlinlinlinlinlinlinlinlino bo b u see my problem?????? this was reported to me by the software ..it self that this is a bug please help me to fix it....i have tonnes of e-mail to read and reply my e-mail addresses are:- sridhard@giasbmc.vsnl.net.in hars420@hotmail.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA12166 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:02:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA25870; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:02:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA03494; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:01:32 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA30190 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:00:09 -0700 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA06941 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:00:07 -0700 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) id DAA27489 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:00:06 -0700 Message-Id: <199710191000.DAA27489@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:00:06 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list, please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list are archived. These archives can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ (includes a searchable index of all archived messages, and information on how to subscribe to this mailing list) - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/pine-info/. - From within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/pine-info/[] Please note: the mailing list is no longer mirrored in the comp.mail.pine newsgroup. If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of YOUR Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun Oct 19 03:00:05 PDT 1997 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA02137 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA25946; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:08:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA03941; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:07:21 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA05660 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:05:44 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id DAA07503 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 03:05:41 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 19 Oct 97 12:05:26 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id JAA30677; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:34:18 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 19 Oct 1997 09:34:12 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: none In-Reply-To: "Jamal Adimi"'s message of "Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:35:58 +0300" References: <01bcdc50$e0b0aa60$4a005ec3@y.net.ye.195.94.0.35> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Jamal Adimi" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "JA" == Jamal Adimi writes: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 JA> [1 ] JA> i need names of news servers, can u help. Thanks JA> Jamal [2 ] No. Wrong group, wrong mailer. -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University What the world needs now is killfiles that actually kill. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:20:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA14462 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:20:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA26929; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:20:34 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA27168; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:19:26 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA27462 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:18:20 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA14250 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:18:18 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:17:14 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:17:14 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: BUG ? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mark Foster X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 18 Oct 1997, Mark Foster wrote: > It seems that every weekend I get a list of all the e-mails that > I have deleted from my in-box RETURNED TO MY IN-BOX so that I have > to delete them all again. This is perhaps the THIRD TIME this has > occurred. > > What's up? Sounds like your system admin is restoring files. Happens on the weekend, huh? Have a talk with them. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:25:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA14732 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA18996; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:25:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA08882; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:24:06 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA12064 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:22:04 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA24219 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 04:22:02 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:21:11 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 19:21:11 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "SRIDHAR.DINESH.RAO" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, SRIDHAR.DINESH.RAO wrote: > there seems to be a bug in this ...pine e-mail...that i am using. > the problem is that...... > when i use the arrow keys ,the following texe appe > appears > Do bo bo bo bo bo bo bo bo blinlinlinlinlino > bo blinlinlinlinlino bo bo bo bo blinlinlinlino bo bo bo bo bo blib[[[o bo > blino bo bo bo bo bo blinlinlinlinlinlinlinlinlinlinlino bo b > > > u see my problem?????? Looks like your terminal emulation SW is interacting poorly with the arrow keys. Best call the helpdesk at VSNL. They are always eager to help. ;-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:28:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA06571 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:28:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA29512; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:28:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA06431; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:27:07 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAB37926 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:25:49 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA04800 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:25:46 -0700 Received: from smtp.globalserve.net (root@smtp.globalserve.net [209.90.144.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA21506 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:25:44 -0700 Received: from dialin6073.globalserve.net (morian@dialin6073.globalserve.net [209.47.102.26]) by smtp.globalserve.net (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id LAA14393 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:25:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Morian To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: news folders in pcPine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-No-Archive: Yes X-Files: Moulder spends too much time slagging Vancouver. X-Vancouver: Yeah it rains here... So what? X-X-Sender: morian@mail.globalserve.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Today when I opened pine, I noticed that my news folders were'nt in my folder list. All I have is my Inbox (remote) and SAVEDMAIL/SENTMAIL (Local) folders. I'm using pcPine v3.96 for Win95. When I called my ISP's tech support dept, the tech who they say is thier pine expert told me that it was a bug with v3.96 and I should stick to using pine in shell for the time being. Is this true? Regards, Morian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA16846 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA29605; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:36:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA04616; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:34:32 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA24460 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:33:24 -0700 Received: from virgin.usvi.net (ab541@virgin.usvi.net [204.199.0.100]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26787 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 08:33:16 -0700 Received: (from ab541@localhost) by virgin.usvi.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA29879; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:37:04 -0400 (AST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:37:01 -0400 (AST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stangetz Caines To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: news folders in pcPine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Morian X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Gould someone tell me how to unsubscribe from thei list On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Morian wrote: > Today when I opened pine, I noticed that my news folders were'nt in my > folder list. All I have is my Inbox (remote) and SAVEDMAIL/SENTMAIL > (Local) folders. > > I'm using pcPine v3.96 for Win95. When I called my ISP's tech support > dept, the tech who they say is thier pine expert told me that it was a bug > with v3.96 and I should stick to using pine in shell for the time being. > Is this true? > > Regards, > > Morian > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:02:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA03878 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:02:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA22115; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:20:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA10918; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:17:45 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA32838 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:16:38 -0700 Received: from ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (siteadm@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com [24.3.128.66]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA18949 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:16:36 -0700 Received: from luomat.peak.org ([24.2.83.40]) by ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA1590; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 09:16:35 -0700 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by luomat.peak.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA09167; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:16:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148.RR) Message-Id: <199710191616.MAA09167@luomat.peak.org> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 97 12:16:31 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How to unsubscribe (Re: news folders in pcPine) In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-Cc: ab541@virgin.usvi.net X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b6.3) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: Stangetz Caines Original-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:37:01 -0400 (AST) Message-ID: > Gould someone tell me how to unsubscribe from thei list > > > > > > On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Morian wrote: > > > Today when I opened pine, I noticed that my news folders were'nt in my > > folder list. All I have is my Inbox (remote) and SAVEDMAIL/SENTMAIL > > (Local) folders. > > > > I'm using pcPine v3.96 for Win95. When I called my ISP's tech support > > dept, the tech who they say is thier pine expert told me that it was a > > bug with v3.96 and I should stick to using pine in shell for the time > > being. Is this true? > > > > Regards, > > > > Morian > > > > Sure.... go read the notice you received when you signed up for the list. What.... you didn't save it? That's not a good idea, as it has important information. Well, just use the same process you used to signon with, in reverse. You managed to subscribe, you should be able to figure out how to unsubscribe. To signoff from the list, email to listproc@u.washington.edu with the following request: signoff PINE-INFO or unsubscribe PINE-INFO From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:29:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA05082 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:29:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA24493; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:29:54 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA44296; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:27:42 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA19724 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:25:50 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA29433 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:25:48 -0700 Received: from gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca [134.87.141.250]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA02463 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:25:46 -0700 Received: from student.kwantlen.bc.ca by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA25163; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:25:43 -0700 Received: from localhost by student.Kwantlen.BC.CA (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27142; Sun, 19 Oct 97 12:25:41 PDT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 12:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ahmad Hage-Hassan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: folder index Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN not able to open folder index 'I'.please I need some tips. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA06629 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:39:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA05041; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:39:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA26797; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:37:32 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA05650 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:35:53 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA21900 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:35:50 -0700 Received: from ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca (ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca [131.104.96.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA04988 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 15:35:47 -0700 Received: from ccshst01 (ccshst01.cs.uoguelph.ca) by ccshst09.cs.uoguelph.ca with SMTP (1.40.112.3/16.2) id AA222410469; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:34:29 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:34:30 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Londa Denniss To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: can't open folder Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: ldenniss@ccshst01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN To whom it may concern, I am not able to open my folder. The computer says I am using a bad login or password but I am using the same one I always use. It is very frustrating. What is wrong with it? Should I just keep trying or destroy my computer? Londa From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA07177 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA05809; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:35:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA00894; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:31:21 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA46502 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:30:05 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA19736 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 16:30:03 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 20 Oct 97 01:29:48 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA20268; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:23:24 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 20 Oct 1997 00:23:22 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: can't open folder In-Reply-To: Londa Denniss's message of "Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:34:30 -0400 (EDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Londa Denniss X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "LD" == Londa Denniss writes: LD> To whom it may concern, That'd be your local help desk person. LD> I am not able to open my folder. That's kinda bad alright... LD> The computer says I am using a bad login or password but I am LD> using the same one I always use. You mean, you're making a telnet connection and cannot log into the remote computer? LD> It is very frustrating. What is wrong with it? Could be a corrupted password file. Could be some kid playing a prank on you. Could be you've Alzheimer's. LD> Should I just keep trying Trying won't do. If the passwd is not valid, it's not valid. LD> or destroy my computer? That's a neat alternative. You know, there are some good websites around that will show you how to do that properly. I liked the "monitor learns to fly" part most. Ok, talk to your sysadmin. She'll know what to do. At least, she's the only one who can actually fix your problem. Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:30:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA07705 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:30:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA06573; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:30:54 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA43350; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:28:53 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA12204 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:27:52 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA02062 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:27:51 -0700 Received: from emout14.mail.aol.com (emout14.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.40]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA28431 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:27:47 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by emout14.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id UAA08936 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 20:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <971019202424_1893001921@emout14.mail.aol.com> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 20:27:15 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: HMorris101@aol.com To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: wealth X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please send me info... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:48:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA07843 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA06811; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:48:49 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA25328; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:44:44 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA47712 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:43:35 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com ([209.80.13.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA03038 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:43:33 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA30796; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 00:44:35 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:44:35 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: wealth In-Reply-To: <971019202424_1893001921@emout14.mail.aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: HMorris101@aol.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On what??? Wealth? Sanford Wallace (cyber promotions) must send you a ton of complete j*u*n*k mail twenty times a day, within AOL. I strongly recommend that you examine your outgoing mail, to check where you're sending it, and if what you are sending makes even the slightest sense to YOU, just for starters. Maybe, just maybe, when you take your training wheels off, and leave that cesspool, laughably referred to as America On Line, but which should rightly be called the septic tank of America's Lowest Order of Life" get a REAL Internet account, and find out what's happening in the outside world (aka THE Internet) maybe you will find out what life...and wealth is all about. On Sun, 19 Oct 1997 HMorris101@aol.com wrote: > Please send me info... > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:56:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA07938 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:56:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA28809; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:56:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA11704; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:52:03 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA20238 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:50:47 -0700 Received: from ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (siteadm@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com [24.3.128.66]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA24121 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:50:46 -0700 Received: from luomat.peak.org ([24.2.83.40]) by ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA23305 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 17:50:39 -0700 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by luomat.peak.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id UAA16103 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 20:50:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148.RR) Message-Id: <199710200050.UAA16103@luomat.peak.org> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 97 20:50:29 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: wealth In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b6.3) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The noise ratio here is so loud I can't even hear myself wonder why I subbed. TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA08128 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:10:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA07118; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:10:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA15751; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:05:35 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA41612 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:04:04 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com ([209.80.13.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA04363 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:04:02 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA17180; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 01:04:50 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: wealth In-Reply-To: <199710200050.UAA16103@luomat.peak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I agree in principle, but that rather points towards a moderated list, and that's kind of difficult to accomplish at this point. Ask Robin, I'm sure he would agree that the lowest common denominator is regrettably frequent in it's (their) appearance! On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > The noise ratio here is so loud I can't even hear myself wonder why I subbed. > > TjL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:11:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA08139 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA07136; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:11:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA13775; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:08:59 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA35354 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:06:39 -0700 Received: from ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (siteadm@ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com [24.3.128.66]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA00957 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:06:37 -0700 Received: from luomat.peak.org ([24.2.83.40]) by ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.02) with ESMTP id AAA26212 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:06:35 -0700 Received: (from luomat@localhost) by luomat.peak.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id VAA16516 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 21:06:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.148.RR) Message-Id: <199710200106.VAA16516@luomat.peak.org> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 97 21:06:30 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Timothy J Luoma To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: wealth In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 4.2mach v148) X-Nextstep-Mailer: Mail 4.2mach (Enhance 2.0b6.3) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Author: "Colin J. Raven" Original-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:04:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: > I agree in principle, but that rather points towards a moderated list, and > that's kind of difficult to accomplish at this point. > Ask Robin, I'm sure he would agree that the lowest common denominator is > regrettably frequent in it's (their) appearance! I'm just waiting for the listproc to process my unsub request. The list needs to be subscriber-post only, to start with. Subscription requests should be confirmed, and the confirmation note should inform of the strict anti-spam rules. IMO. TjL ps -- the listproc seems very slow at responding... I guess they don't want me to go ;-) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA08202 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:19:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA07243; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:18:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA14679; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:16:43 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA40468 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:15:34 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com ([209.80.13.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA26530 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:15:31 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com (ns3.quik.com [209.80.13.1]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with SMTP id BAA34482; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 01:16:23 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:16:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: wealth In-Reply-To: <199710200106.VAA16516@luomat.peak.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Timothy J Luoma X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ummmm...you have a point there I'm obliged to admit! Hey, Don't Leave!!! We need reasoned voices here :) Colin On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > Author: "Colin J. Raven" > Original-Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:04:50 -0700 (PDT) > Message-ID: > > > I agree in principle, but that rather points towards a moderated list, and > > that's kind of difficult to accomplish at this point. > > Ask Robin, I'm sure he would agree that the lowest common denominator is > > regrettably frequent in it's (their) appearance! > > I'm just waiting for the listproc to process my unsub request. > > The list needs to be subscriber-post only, to start with. > > Subscription requests should be confirmed, and the confirmation note should > inform of the strict anti-spam rules. > > IMO. > > TjL > > ps -- the listproc seems very slow at responding... I guess they don't want > me to go ;-) > > Colin J. Raven Network & Systems Administration HDS Lab, Inc. Costa Mesa CA, Harrison NY (714) 428 0300 (914) 835 2200 "Communications at The Speed of Life" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:54:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA08495 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:54:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA29568; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:54:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA20478; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:50:31 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA19960 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:49:14 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA03486 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:49:12 -0700 Received: from mail.atl (mail.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA07647 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 18:49:09 -0700 Received: from 209.138.17.128 (host-209-138-17-128.ATL.BELLSOUTH.net [209.138.17.128]) by mail.atl (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA01353 for ; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 21:48:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <344A806E.1020@bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 21:49:36 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: LILLIE FORD To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: BinHex Converter MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I downloaded a file and it says something about having to use BinHex to convert the file. I have no idea what BinHex is, nor do I know how to get BinHex in order to convert it. Will you please help me. Please respond to this message soon. Thanks very much. Charlie James lford3@bellsouth.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:36:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA13954 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:36:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA14303; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:35:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA14091; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:34:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA41478 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:32:04 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA23433 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:32:02 -0700 Received: from sangam.ncst.ernet.in (sangam.ncst.ernet.in [202.41.110.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA14232 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:31:45 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by sangam.ncst.ernet.in (8.7.5) id QAA22346 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:11:55 +0530 (GMT+05:30) >Received: from localhost by krcl.ernet.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/25Sep96-0432PM) id AA19614; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:46:43 +0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 10:46:43 +0500 (GMT+0500) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sanjay S. Joshi" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sug (ID 9I1IJ): Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: ipfadm@krcl.ernet.in X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Kindly let me know what E-mail address should one give if he has to send a message through E-mail to me which I can receive in "PINE".At present all the messages I am receiving are in "UNIX" for which the address is "ipfadm@krcl.ernet.in". Will there be a different type of address to receive mail in PINE. Please clarify.I shall be thankfull for the reply as PINE seems to me a better and simpler to use system. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA13958 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA14306; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:36:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA14222; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:35:43 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA28684 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:32:05 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA23435 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:32:02 -0700 Received: from sangam.ncst.ernet.in (sangam.ncst.ernet.in [202.41.110.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA14231 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 03:31:45 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by sangam.ncst.ernet.in (8.7.5) id QAA22350 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:12:00 +0530 (GMT+05:30) >Received: from localhost by krcl.ernet.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/25Sep96-0432PM) id AA20462; Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:34:16 +0500 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 11:34:16 +0500 (GMT+0500) Reply-To: "Sanjay S. Joshi" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Sanjay S. Joshi" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Subscribe to Newsgroup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: ipfadm@krcl.ernet.in X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Kindly elaborate on subscribing to a Newsgroup. In the Main Menu in PINE "Select folder List", I could not follow how to operate commands for Subscribe. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA17315 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA18553; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:23:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA11536; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:19:59 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA32582 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:17:28 -0700 Received: from bay2.bjt.net (root@bay2.bjt.net [207.201.6.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA10705 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:17:26 -0700 Received: from bay1.bjt.net (kstevens@bay1.bjt.net [207.201.6.1]) by bay2.bjt.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA05824; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:10:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (kstevens@localhost) by bay1.bjt.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id IAA18822; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:10:58 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Stevens To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Sug (ID 9I1IJ): In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Sanjay S. Joshi" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: bay1.bjt.net: kstevens owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The same address will work in PINE. Ken ------------------------------------ kstevens@bjt.net kstevens@splusnet.com kstevens@pacbell.net kstevens1@juno.com ks911@aol.com dante911@hotmail.com ken.stevens@readrite.com (work) On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Sanjay S. Joshi wrote: > > Kindly let me know what E-mail address should one give if he has to send a > message through E-mail to me which I can receive in "PINE".At present all > the messages I am receiving are in "UNIX" for which the address is > "ipfadm@krcl.ernet.in". Will there be a different type of address to > receive mail in PINE. Please clarify.I shall be thankfull for the reply as > PINE seems to me a better and simpler to use system. > Thanks. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA17693 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:44:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA19042; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:44:39 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA18664; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:40:48 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA32564 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:38:38 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA18275 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:38:35 -0700 Received: from david.INTERTEL.HN ([206.48.252.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA18927 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 08:38:31 -0700 Received: from david.intertel.hn.david.intertel.hn ([206.48.252.29]) by david.INTERTEL.HN (2.0 Build 2119 (Berkeley 8.8.4)/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA01953 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:43:30 -0700 Message-Id: <344B7874.14CB@enee.hn> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:27:49 -0600 Reply-To: d_arita@hotmail.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David Arita To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: I need help to get to an adress which results to be a mail loop MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Friends: Recently I tried an Internet service for what I gave my credit card number but now that I want to stop buying it their e-mail results to be a mail loop and I don't get how to tell them to stop billing me. Could you suggest me something please? David Arita From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:27:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA18977 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:27:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA12392; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:27:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA17870; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:25:17 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA25538 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:23:24 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA17779 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:23:19 -0700 Received: from mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (h141-206-15-5.NCR.COM [141.206.15.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA12293 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:23:15 -0700 Received: from hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA03678; Mon, 20 Oct 97 09:23:15 PDT Received: from localhost by hostsw4.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA00585; Mon, 20 Oct 97 09:18:44 PDT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 09:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Steven Feinholz Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steven Feinholz To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine hanging when sending email Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: Steven Feinholz X-Sender: sf3@hostsw4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can someone please shed some light on this problem? I am running Pine 3.96 on a Sun workstation, running SunOS 4.1.4. I sent the following message to out Sun Admin folks: About a week ago, when sending email via Pine, we are experiencing a hang when pressing ctrl-x to send email. Pine hangs for about 3 minutes, and then the send takes place. Pine has not changed in this time, and I am trying to find out if anything has changed on the Sun side. The hang takes place 100% of the time when sending email outside of the company, but only 75% of the time when sending email to people inside the compaany. And this was their reply: Steven, I do not know much about pine but I do know that RB is currently running and ES is in the process of converting to sendmail V8. Could this new version of sendmail have something to do with your problem? Does anyone know if sendmail v8 would affect Pine? ________________________________________________________________________ | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 NCR | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 Parallel | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 Systems | 15-169 | Email: sf3@ElSegundoCa.NCR.COM | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | Steven.Feinholz@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM ________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA21236 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA15039; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:14:32 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA20301; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:08:26 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA20266 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:03:21 -0700 Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA04586 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:02:49 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA16366; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:02:30 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:02:27 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David L Miller To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: wealth In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: "Colin J. Raven" , Timothy J Luoma X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > The noise ratio here is so loud I can't even hear myself wonder why I subbed. On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Colin J. Raven wrote: > I agree in principle, but that rather points towards a moderated list, and > that's kind of difficult to accomplish at this point. > Ask Robin, I'm sure he would agree that the lowest common denominator is > regrettably frequent in it's (their) appearance! On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > The list needs to be subscriber-post only, to start with. We're discussing that option right now, but would like to get some discussion from the group. Does anyone object? > Subscription requests should be confirmed, and the confirmation note should > inform of the strict anti-spam rules. I don't see anything offhand in the listproc config options short of requiring the owner/subscription-manager to approve all subscriptions. I'm not willing to handle that alone; are there any volunteers who would be willing to help out as subscription manager? > ps -- the listproc seems very slow at responding... I guess they don't want > me to go ;-) Sorry about that. It's usually pretty snappy for me, but it does get bogged down sometimes... -- David L. Miller | When ideas fail, words come in Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | very handy. -- Goethe Box 354841, University of Washington | 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:59:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27878 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:59:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA00682; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:59:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA18729; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:55:53 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA46718 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:53:27 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA12826 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:53:24 -0700 Received: from mbox.ualr.edu (mbox.ualr.edu [144.167.10.38]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22234 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 15:53:20 -0700 Received: from athena.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #15587) id <01IP1EDC71280070QX@UALR.EDU>; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:53:14 CDT Message-Id: <971020175305.202993b0@ualr.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:53:05 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shreedhar Reddy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Help! Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu X-Envelope-to: PINE-INFO@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine help, I need some help with Pine. I am trying to get the "You have 10 messages", thing to work but I can't. I am using a "bash" system I think. I have tried putting this line in my ".bash_profile": echo "You have "`grep -c 'Message-Id: ' $MAIL`" mail messages." For the $MAIL, I have been using, "/var/spool/mail/mizar", this is where I think that the INBOX is, but I am not sure. I have tried lots of different directories but none of them seem to work, I always end up getting, "You have 0 mail messages". Thank you for your help! Sincerely, -snreddy@athena.ualr.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:23:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA28418 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA01269; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:23:44 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA47472; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:20:59 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA23880 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:19:05 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA08259 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:19:00 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:17:10 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:17:10 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Sug (ID 9I1IJ): In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Sanjay S. Joshi" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Sanjay S. Joshi wrote: > Kindly let me know what E-mail address should one give if he has to send a > message through E-mail to me which I can receive in "PINE".At present all > the messages I am receiving are in "UNIX" for which the address is > "ipfadm@krcl.ernet.in". Will there be a different type of address to > receive mail in PINE. Please clarify.I shall be thankfull for the reply as > PINE seems to me a better and simpler to use system. Same address. pine is simply a "user agent" of "unix mail". Of course, the proper term is not "unix mail". More proper would be "Internet Mail". Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:24:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA28427 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA22945; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:24:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA20035; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:22:46 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA46638 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:19:54 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA08360 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:19:51 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:19:19 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:19:19 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: I need help to get to an adress which results to be a mail loop In-Reply-To: <344B7874.14CB@enee.hn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: d_arita@hotmail.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, David Arita wrote: > Recently I tried an Internet service for what I gave my credit card > number but now that I want to stop buying it their e-mail results to be > a mail loop and I don't get how to tell them to stop billing me. > > Could you suggest me something please? If you were living in the USA or your ISP is in the USA I would call the "Better Business Bureau". You can also inform your credit card company, via postal mail, of a billing dispute. They can be helpful as well. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:31:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA28546 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:31:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA23120; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:31:42 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA20320; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:27:09 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA14152 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:25:18 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA15733 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:24:48 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 21 Oct 97 01:24:23 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id AAA24345; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 00:21:33 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 21 Oct 1997 00:21:32 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: Shreedhar Reddy's message of "Mon, 20 Oct 1997 17:53:05 -0500 (CDT)" References: <971020175305.202993b0@ualr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Shreedhar Reddy X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "SR" == Shreedhar Reddy writes: SR> ".bash_profile": echo "You have "`grep -c 'Message-Id: ' $MAIL`" SR> mail messages." For the $MAIL, I have been using, SR> "/var/spool/mail/mizar", *urgh* --> man biff... and that's ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile... -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University GMC d++ s+: a- C++ UL++ P++$>+++$ L++$>+++$ E+++ W-- N++ w--- O- M-- V-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++ t++ 5-- X-- tv++ b+++ DI++ D+ g e++ h r++ y+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:35:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA28603 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:35:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA23198; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:35:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA24102; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:32:10 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA54382 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:30:37 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA21139 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:30:32 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:29:24 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:29:24 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: wealth In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David L Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, David L Miller wrote: > On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > The noise ratio here is so loud I can't even hear myself wonder why I subbed. > > On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > > I agree in principle, but that rather points towards a moderated list, and > > that's kind of difficult to accomplish at this point. > > Ask Robin, I'm sure he would agree that the lowest common denominator is > > regrettably frequent in it's (their) appearance! > > On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > The list needs to be subscriber-post only, to start with. > > We're discussing that option right now, but would like to get some > discussion from the group. Does anyone object? Yes! I object....... First, the "junk" we see here in the is list isn't all that bad. One swift kick with the "d"elete key gets you past. Second, and more important, many of the folks sending to the mailing list are "newbies". Some of them don't know enough to sign up to the list. They simply send their inquiries "expecting" a response....as in "we" *are* the helpdesk. This usually happens at the start of some school year. After a few years of being on this list I've *finally* come to realize the second one. Since that is the case, I now refrain from shouting "that question was answered 3X in the last week!!!!". I only do that on comp.mail.pine. ;-) So, I'd suggest, leave things how they are, instuct folks on how to use the delete key, and tell folks if they are tired of answering the same question 3X in one week then move to comp.mail.pine and start shouting! > > Subscription requests should be confirmed, and the confirmation note should > > inform of the strict anti-spam rules. > > I don't see anything offhand in the listproc config options short of > requiring the owner/subscription-manager to approve all subscriptions. > I'm not willing to handle that alone; are there any volunteers who > would be willing to help out as subscription manager? I don't think the Spam level is so intolerable. The middle finger on my left hand works great. Or, maybe I just have a high threshold of pain? I've started to work on my procmail filters in my spare time.....but spare time is kind of rare at the moment. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:52:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA28931 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA23598; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:51:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA22221; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:49:35 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA16716 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:47:24 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA16658 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 16:34:21 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:33:01 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:33:00 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: wealth In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David L Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN David, One more item..... If folks spent less time and effort respoonding to (talking about) messages like "wealth" and "make money fast" or if they'd at least refrain from doing so on the list.....then we'd have less junk. Of course, I just violated what I'm suggesting....but is was to make a point and you did ask. :-) :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:10:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA30554 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA25174; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:10:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA26943; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:06:01 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA54302 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:04:06 -0700 Received: from ns3.quik.com ([209.80.13.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA25503 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:04:02 -0700 Received: from colin-raven (ip34.irvine.quik.com [207.38.102.34]) by ns3.quik.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA39664; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:04:52 GMT Message-Id: <199710210104.BAA39664@ns3.quik.com> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:02:47 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Colin J. Raven" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: wealth X-To: "Edward M Greshko" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Good Point Ed! All of us need reminding occasionally. I must respectfully point out however that there really are those questions that ought not to find their way to this or *any* list. It's worth remembering (IMHO) that Pine is just about as self explanatory as any e-mail app out there. You need look no further (in most cases) than the bottom of the screen for some remarkably simple guidance. THAT'S what makes me a bit psycho occasionally. I have no problem now or ever, with the user who clearly doesn't see a concept, or who has tried something only to see it (or Pine) blow up. Regarding Tim's point re subscription managers, I'd be happy to help out if my connection was faster than it is, (it's going to be faster soon, and I'll be happy to do whatever's necessary then) I have no clue what's involved, but I'd be willing to undertake assistance if anyone can give me a quick howto when the time comes. Bandwidth is a serious problem here right now...but within the next three months...no problem. Well anyway...that's my two cents worth! Colin. ---------- > From: Edward M Greshko > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: Re: wealth > Date: Monday, October 20, 1997 16:29 > > On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, David L Miller wrote: > > > On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > > > The noise ratio here is so loud I can't even hear myself wonder why I subbed. > > > > On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Colin J. Raven wrote: > > > > > I agree in principle, but that rather points towards a moderated list, and > > > that's kind of difficult to accomplish at this point. > > > Ask Robin, I'm sure he would agree that the lowest common denominator is > > > regrettably frequent in it's (their) appearance! > > > > On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > > > The list needs to be subscriber-post only, to start with. > > > > We're discussing that option right now, but would like to get some > > discussion from the group. Does anyone object? > > Yes! I object....... > > First, the "junk" we see here in the is list isn't all that bad. One > swift kick with the "d"elete key gets you past. > > Second, and more important, many of the folks sending to the mailing list > are "newbies". Some of them don't know enough to sign up to the list. > They simply send their inquiries "expecting" a response....as in "we" > *are* the helpdesk. This usually happens at the start of some school > year. > > After a few years of being on this list I've *finally* come to realize the > second one. Since that is the case, I now refrain from shouting "that > question was answered 3X in the last week!!!!". I only do that on > comp.mail.pine. ;-) > > So, I'd suggest, leave things how they are, instuct folks on how to use > the delete key, and tell folks if they are tired of answering the same > question 3X in one week then move to comp.mail.pine and start shouting! > > > > Subscription requests should be confirmed, and the confirmation note should > > > inform of the strict anti-spam rules. > > > > I don't see anything offhand in the listproc config options short of > > requiring the owner/subscription-manager to approve all subscriptions. > > I'm not willing to handle that alone; are there any volunteers who > > would be willing to help out as subscription manager? > > I don't think the Spam level is so intolerable. The middle finger on my > left hand works great. Or, maybe I just have a high threshold of pain? > I've started to work on my procmail filters in my spare time.....but spare > time is kind of rare at the moment. > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA30643 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA03505; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:16:10 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA46830; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:12:11 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA16834 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:11:01 -0700 Received: from mbox.ualr.edu (mbox.ualr.edu [144.167.10.38]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA24538 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:10:59 -0700 Received: from athena.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #15587) id <01IP1J61CIGG0060SZ@UALR.EDU>; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:10:54 CDT Message-Id: <971020201047.202984ff@ualr.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:10:47 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shreedhar Reddy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Help! Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: PINE-INFO@U.WASHINGTON.EDU X-Envelope-to: PINE-INFO@U.WASHINGTON.EDU X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Batchman, At my prompt I typed, "grep -c "Message-Id: "$MAIL" and when I pressed enter all I got was a, ">". It didn't show me how many messages I had or anything like that. I did find out what my directory for my INBOX was however. I typed mail, and my the directory was "/var/spool/mail/mizar", like I suspected. When I put that into the .bash_profile though, it didn't work. It looked like this: echo "You have "`grep -c 'Message-Id: ' /var/spool/mail/mizar`" mail messages." It still says, "You have 0 mail messages". I am not sure what I am doing wrong here. So basically, I have found where the INBOX is, all I need to do now is to get it to show how many messages I have. Your help is greatly appreciated! Sincerely, -snreddy@athena.ualr.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:49:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA31007 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:49:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA25709; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:49:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA28869; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:44:28 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA35736 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:42:41 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA28618 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 18:42:37 -0700 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:42:05 +0800 Message-Id: <19971021094147egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:42:05 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ed Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: wealth Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: cjraven@quik.com X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Colin, As I continue to "pollute" the list.... :-) > Good Point Ed! All of us need reminding occasionally. > I must respectfully point out however that there really are those > questions that ought not to find their way to this or *any* list. It's > worth remembering (IMHO) that Pine is just about as self explanatory as any > e-mail app out there. You need look no further (in most cases) than the > bottom of the screen for some remarkably simple guidance. Agree. I'm not beyond telling people to RTFM. I just don't suggest they should have read it the answer a few days ago. Depending on what side of the bed I got up on, how the cat is treating me, how my wife is treating me, and how my wife is treating the cat (ponder that one... :-) ) I may give a "complete" answer or a simple "read XXXXX". I now have another option and that is using Robin's FAQ index. > THAT'S what makes me a bit psycho occasionally. I have no problem now or > ever, with the user who clearly doesn't see a concept, or who has tried > something only to see it (or Pine) blow up. > Regarding Tim's point re subscription managers, I'd be happy to help out if > my connection was faster than it is, (it's going to be faster soon, and > I'll be happy to do whatever's necessary then) I don't think a "moderated" mailing list is a good idea. > I have no clue what's involved, but I'd be willing to undertake assistance > if anyone can give me a quick howto when the time comes. Bandwidth is a > serious problem here right now...but within the next three months...no > problem. > Well anyway...that's my two cents worth! Thanks. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGP-Key-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA31425 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:12:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA04461; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:12:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA00693; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:07:57 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA49290 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:06:41 -0700 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (root@piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA00762 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:06:39 -0700 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA22716 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:36:30 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.3/8.8.3) id XAA04070; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:36:29 -0230 (NDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 23:36:29 -0230 (NDT) Reply-To: Andrew Vardy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mailing lists - coping MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I want to know how to cope with mailing lists. I don't think this has ever been mentioned before. Never seen anyone discuss it. How does one cope with a flurry of messages from a very many high-volume mailing lists? How to keep it all remotely manageable, and be able to locate important messages? Pine does not let you subdivide mail that comes in according to lists. All mail goes simply in one INBOX. Now saving mail with 's' command, I press that, and then can type some folder. I can never there after be able to locate it. It will put it in a folder. Kind of hard going from folder to folder. Anyway, once I do this, my quota gets ever narrower. I have a very small allowable file size quota. The INBOX interestingly does not take up quota space. But all other folders add up the total file size space towards the quota. That quota draws up quick! I don't really have any interesting method of systematically moving messages saving them filing them away, downloading, to do this quickly enough so the INBOX would stay under 50-100 messages. And if I start simply deleting a lot, and frequently, then I will definitely be deleting messages that are important/relevant to me, and would at least like to refer to sometime. I need advice. Is there any? Or is Pine too old to manage this type of mail difficulty/organization? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA32519 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:40:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA05930; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:40:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA04895; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:37:59 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA43178 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:36:31 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA13014 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:36:29 -0700 Received: from mbox.ualr.edu (mbox.ualr.edu [144.167.10.38]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA05850 for ; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 20:36:26 -0700 Received: from athena.ualr.edu by UALR.EDU (PMDF V4.2-11 #15587) id <01IP1O9EG82O006VMO@UALR.EDU>; Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:36:24 CDT Message-Id: <971020223617.20297dde@ualr.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:36:17 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shreedhar Reddy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Help! Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu X-Envelope-to: PINE-INFO@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Battchman, Here is what I have: echo "You have "`grep -c 'Message-Id: ' varmail messages." /spool/mail/mizar`" mail messages." When I have this, it tells me, "You have 0 mail messages". I know that this INBOX directory is correct and that I do have mail messages there. I get the feeling that Unix does not like me or something! Thanks for your help! Sincerely, -snreddy@athena.ualr.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:05:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA02467 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:05:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA01309; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:05:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA16104; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:04:19 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA29578 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:03:03 -0700 Received: from lab7-16.idt.mdh.se (dat95pkn@lab7-16.idt.mdh.se [130.238.250.45]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA22216 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 01:03:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (dat95pkn@localhost) by lab7-16.idt.mdh.se (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id JAA01425 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:59:24 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:59:24 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Karlsson To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: binhex 4.0 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Warning: Junk / bulk email will be reported X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote: > Well, this being a "mailing list" can make it difficult for some to read > the past posts since a "mailing list" is different from a newsgroup. The mailing list archive is available at or about Pine's homepage. -- \\// Peter - my other .signature has a cool remark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:27:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA03401 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA02240; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:27:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA18383; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:26:18 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA29792 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:25:10 -0700 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA03697 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 02:25:03 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk (pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.6]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA22563; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:24:49 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:24:48 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mailing lists - coping In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Andrew Vardy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote: > I want to know how to cope with mailing lists. I don't think this has > ever been mentioned before. Never seen anyone discuss it. > > How does one cope with a flurry of messages from a very many high-volume > mailing lists? How to keep it all remotely manageable, and be able to > locate important messages? Pine does not let you subdivide mail that > comes in according to lists. All mail goes simply in one INBOX. True. But then, like many other mail programs, Pine is a "Mail User Agent". This means it provides you the user with a (hopefully) pleasant to use interface to reading your e-mail AFTER it has been delivered into one or more folders. Pine plays _no part_ in the mail delivery process itself. If you want different mailing lists' messages delivered to different folders then it is this _delivery process_ you need to persuade, not Pine. This is achieved by setting up a filter: the delivery system passes the incoming message to your filter, which is then responsible for deciding which folder to write the message to. You should ask your local Help Desk whether filtering is available on your computer systems and, if so, how to use it. If you do go down this route you will find Pine's "enable-incoming-folders" option (in its Setup Configuration screen) useful. Turning this on creates a new "collection" of folders in your "Folder List" screen ("L" command from Main Menu, Message Index or a number of other places). This initially just contains your INBOX. However you can Add ("A" command) other folders )the ones you filter your incoming mail into) to this collection. Normally the Tab command advances you to the next New (Unseen) message in the current folder. If you are reading one of several folders in an incoming collection and have reached the last such message then Tab checks following incoming folders for recently arrived mail and, if any id found, offers to let you view them. This means you can work your way through all your incoming folders in turn simply by pressing the Tab key (deleting, saving, printing, etc, messages as you work through them). > Now saving mail with 's' command, I press that, and then can type some > folder. I can never there after be able to locate it. It will put it in > a folder. Kind of hard going from folder to folder. Really? Here are different ways you can move from one folder to another. Some are better than others if you can remember a folder's name (or the start of the name). They assume you are in the Folder Index screen... * Press "L" (List Folders); Use Arrow Keys to highlight the folder of interest in the list shown; Press Return. * Press "G" (Goto Folder); Type in the full name of the folder of interest; Press Return. * Press "G" (Goto Folder); Type in the first few characters of the name of the folder of interest; Press Tab to complete the folder name automatically; Press Return. (This requires the "enable-tab-completion" to be turned on in your Setup Configuration screen.) * Press "G" (Goto Folder); Press ^T (To Folders) to see the List Folders screen; Use Arrow Keys to highlight the folder of interest in the list shown; Press Return. > Anyway, once I do this, my quota gets ever narrower. I have a very > small allowable file size quota. The INBOX interestingly does not take > up quota space. But all other folders add up the total file size space > towards the quota. That quota draws up quick! It sounds like you site does as we do... your INBOX is probably held on a separate, special disk on your mail server. However messaages you decide to keep are saved to folders in your normal disk store. Because the former is a separate disk it has a separate quota for you (or perhaps even no quota at all). This is a fair way of working because it tries to make sure you always have a reasonable chance of having space to receive newly arriving messages (in your INBOX, on the mail server). However if you decide to keep various messages for future reference it seems right and proper that they should be saved in your normal directory and charged against its disk quota; you must learn to balance the desire to hoard messages against the other demands on your disk space -- everything in this world has a cost! If you find your disk quota vanishing rapidly then in the first instance sort through your folders and delete any messages and/or folders you no longer require. If you are still short of disk space contact your local Help Desk for advice; they may even be willing to increase your quota. > I don't really have any interesting method of systematically moving > messages saving them filing them away, downloading, to do this quickly > enough so the INBOX would stay under 50-100 messages. And if I start > simply deleting a lot, and frequently, then I will definitely be deleting > messages that are important/relevant to me, and would at least like to > refer to sometime. I suggest you persue the route I suggest above and enquire about filtering. If this is not available to you then you can emulate it to some extent using a combination of Pine's Select, Zoom, Sort and Apply commands... 1. Select the messages you want to operate on (this requires the "enable-aggregate-command-set" option to be turned on in your Setup Configuration screen)... For example, to select all New messages: ; S N Or to select all messages send "To" the pine-info list: ; T T pine-info 2. Having selected some messages (they'll be shown in bold, or with an "X" in the first column) hide the others from view by using the Zoom command: Z (To later unzoom, and view them all again, use another "Z" command.) This lets you concentrate on just the selected messages. 3. Sort the messages into threaded conversations using the "Ordered Subject" sort key: $ O 4. Go to the top message in the list: ^W ^Y and then start working through reading them, deleting any you do not want to keep en route. 5. Use the Expunge command to (permanently) get rid of the deleted message in your selection: X 6. Now decide what you want to do with any still left selected... you can operate on them all in one go by using the Apply (A) command: A Y ... applies a Print command to them all A S foldername ... applies a Save command to them all, to move them into another folder etc 7. If there are still any messages selected, "drop" them by using the Select -> Unselect All command: ; A (This will automatically unzoom. If you want to unzoom without deselecting just give the "Z' command a second time now.) > I need advice. Is there any? See above. :-) > Or is Pine too old to manage this type of mail difficulty/organization? Nope, it's fine... you just haven't yet experimented enough with it and/or read its help pages and put 2 + 2 together to see how they can be applied to your particular need. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:58:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA04482 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:58:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA11385; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:58:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA19736; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:37:22 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA29854 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:36:10 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA23706 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 03:36:06 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA10325; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:35:54 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 21 Oct 1997 11:35:54 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mailing lists - coping In-Reply-To: Mike Brudenell's message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:24:48 +0100 (BST)" Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mike Brudenell X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- AV> On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote: AV> I want to know how to cope with mailing lists. I don't think this AV> has ever been mentioned before. Never seen anyone discuss it. Yes it has. It falls under the "how do I filter x into y" category. AV> How does one cope with a flurry of messages from a very many AV> high-volume mailing lists? How to keep it all remotely AV> manageable, and be able to locate important messages? Pine does AV> not let you subdivide mail that comes in according to lists. All AV> mail goes simply in one INBOX. Two problems here: 1. filtering consult Nancy McGough's fabulous filtering faq 2. scoring/killing pine does not do scoring. It doesn't do killfiling, either. Both sucks. If you have to deal with many hv-lists (and newsgroups, too), you might be interested in trying Gnus for XEmacs. You will find adaptive scoring very interesting since it will effectively do away with unwanted (i.e. you are not interested in them) mails and news. It will also pre-sort messages for you according to the score the thread/author... has, i.e. most important ones come first. AV> Now saving mail with 's' command, I press that, and then can type AV> some folder. I can never there after be able to locate it. It AV> will put it in a folder. Kind of hard going from folder to folder. True. Especially since you cannot see how many messages there are in a folder or if new mail has arrived in one. Here's what I see in Gnus: [ Mailing Lists -- 8:22 ] * 0: subscription 1 1: pine 2 1: Unsort 5 [ News -- 1:3363 ] 2: comp.mail.pine 2 localhost All information I need available: how many, where, dormant articles etc. BTW, the folders have different score levels, too, so that I can zoom in on, say, level 1 where I only keep private mail. AV> Anyway, once I do this, my quota gets ever narrower. I have a AV> very small allowable file size quota. The INBOX interestingly AV> does not take up quota space. But all other folders add up the AV> total file size space towards the quota. That quota draws up AV> quick! Bribe your sysadmin. AV> I don't really have any interesting method of systematically AV> moving messages saving them filing them away, downloading, to do AV> this quickly enough so the INBOX would stay under 50-100 messages. AV> And if I start simply deleting a lot, and frequently, then I will AV> definitely be deleting messages that are important/relevant to me, AV> and would at least like to refer to sometime. I need advice. Is AV> there any? Yes, scoring, killing and expiring. Setting up a cron job that puts your stuff on disks. Mailing your mail-folders home to you. Anything... Even a procmail recipe that will file your most important mails to a special folder and prunes everything else... Gotta look that up in the respective docs. AV> Or is Pine too old to manage this type of mail difficulty/organization? IMAO, it is. You can kluge your way around its limitations, but if I were in a situation like yours, I'd go for the appropriate tool. That'd be Gnus. YMMV, Robin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQEVAwUBNEx3ebzilfG+yuTtAQHj1Qf+Jtu0BhbRQTIrVDb9Z6ZCz1ecq6b5dqAB t49u7ooSumdnZXYvFtvRB3rxM211/aql5gPfTuFc2ui27T7k8+fvtg7Q3vJm5FXx yDD+sjBksLEdfVLXyJPHOiteJXhZL+mE8O8fwpVI0Ij/P6p5gt3TrFA26wlZPCZ/ JjlGvo50svKfbBxWUJZDx2Qc/sSQfle3b58+HbHw01yl1qg7y8/UlKFaiJjpaqVm mQPQqvxshx+WxTytrzVFClfxhG0OTXKN2emg/Rqw9PTceYskUaRLh8NQFqOn6bJy jR23n+2on+1GZRD3lgsBRLG8IbMgxQn+9veDyys8GBxKYC+KZwakQQ== =5bPX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Robin S. Socha M.A. "Linux poses a real challenge for those with a taste for late-night hacking (and/or conversations with God)." (Matt Welsh) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:17:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA05364 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:17:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA03730; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:17:03 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA28802; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:10:15 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA16722 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:08:47 -0700 Received: from sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. ([202.141.63.160]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA07195 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:08:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (sachin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA00462 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:41:17 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:41:16 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sachin Garg To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine & PGP? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: sachin@sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi all, I would like to be able to use PGP with Pine. What I would like to be able to do is, get a message and before sending it encrypt it withe the recipients public key. A small menu asking me if I want to sign the message etc. would also be helpful. In the case of a PGP encryped/signed message, I would like that the reverse happens without me having to explicitly call the PGP program. I hope that guys out there have got what I mean to say. Thanks for any pointers in this regard. sachin ******************************************************************** Sachin Garg Phone: +91-80-5584271/143/982 MTS Extn: 303 C-DAC, Fax: (080) 5584893 Ramanshree Plaza, 2/1, Brunton Road, BANGALORE 560 025 INDIA E-mail: sachin@cdacb.ernet.in ********************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA05534 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA11875; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:23:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA20455; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:18:36 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA03508 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:16:48 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA03771 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:16:44 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:15:28 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:15:27 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: binhex 4.0 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Peter Karlsson wrote: > On Thu, 16 Oct 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote: > > > Well, this being a "mailing list" can make it difficult for some to read > > the past posts since a "mailing list" is different from a newsgroup. > > The mailing list archive is available at or about Pine's homepage. That's why I said "can" since it takes a bit of work to find the archive. If some people can find the "?" or the "^G" at the bottom of the screen there is little hope they can find the archive. :-( :-( Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:47:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA05738 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:47:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA12136; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:47:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA21092; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:45:48 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA51790 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:44:39 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA29756 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 04:44:36 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id MAA10403; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:36:55 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 21 Oct 1997 12:36:55 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine & PGP? In-Reply-To: Sachin Garg's message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 16:41:16 +0530 (IST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sachin Garg X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "SG" == Sachin Garg writes: SG> Hi all, I would like to be able to use PGP with Pine. But there should be something like this in the FAQ: Q: How do I use pine with pgp. A: For political reasons, pine does not provide pgp support. However, there are several scripts available on the internet that perform various pgp tasks and can be used in a sending filter. Among them are pgp-ping by Roland Rosenfeld and papp by Aldo Valente. SG> I hope that guys out there have got what I mean to say. Thanks for SG> any pointers in this regard. You asked for it: Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. "Even more amazing was the realization that God has Internet access. I wonder if He has a full newsfeed?" (Matt Welsh) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 05:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA06188 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 05:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA04576; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 05:33:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA20615; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 05:31:07 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA46854 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 05:29:44 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA01614 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 05:29:43 -0700 Received: from laurel.emich.edu (laurel.emich.edu [164.76.4.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA12617 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 05:29:41 -0700 Received: from ONLINE.EMICH.EDU by ONLINE.EMICH.EDU (PMDF V5.1-7 #16910) id <01IP28YFNPU08ZFO24@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:29:14 EDT Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:29:14 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: mbabic@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Help for attaching files MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I use pine on a Mac. How do I attach files to email messages? Specifically, I want to attach files I"ve made on Microsoft Word. I asked the support staff at my university, but they only knew how to do it on a PC, not on a Mac. Many thanks. Mary Jean Babic From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:42:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA06706 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:42:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA13514; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:42:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA23273; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:40:38 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA51836 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:39:24 -0700 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA05688 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:39:22 -0700 Received: from indy4 (pfarabee@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA28687 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:38:42 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:38:53 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Noone Special Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: <971020175305.202993b0@ualr.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Shreedhar Reddy wrote: > I need some help with Pine. I am trying to get the "You have 10 > messages", thing to work but I can't. I am using a "bash" system I think. > I have tried putting this line in my ".bash_profile": > echo "You have "`grep -c 'Message-Id: ' $MAIL`" mail messages." That won't be accurate. If someone replies to you and includes your headers, including your "Message-Id: blah blah blah" header, it will add another count to your message.. Actually, this message alone would be counted 4 times.. once for each "Message-Id: " in it. For instance, on my mail spool, your command gives me: You have 51 mail message. (Which is not correct.. I have 82) Try: echo "You have `grep -c '^From ' $MAIL` mail messages." Notice I took out two sets of double quotes. In the context here, they aren't needed, and who knows, maybe they were messing something up. > For the $MAIL, I have been using, "/var/spool/mail/mizar", this is where > I think that the INBOX is, but I am not sure. I have tried lots of The general pathname for your mail spool is: /var/spool/mail/username where "username" is your username. So if you are running this command on your account on ualr, you need to use: /var/spool/mail/snreddy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:02:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA06863 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:02:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA05765; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:02:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA25732; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:58:21 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA16844 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:56:55 -0700 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA03386 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 06:56:53 -0700 Received: from indy4 (pfarabee@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA00833 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:56:12 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:56:24 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Pine & PGP? (AKA NEEDED: Beta Testers) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Sachin Garg wrote: > I would like to be able to use PGP with Pine. What I would like to be able > to do is, get a message and before sending it encrypt it withe the > recipients public key. A small menu asking me if I want to sign the ------------------------------------------------------------------------- NEEDED: Beta testers for NEW pgp pine filter ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Most of you are familiar with pgppine and papp. A friend of mine and I have taken a copy of papp and performed practically a total rewrite on it. The program has many of the old features, like saving your password encrypted in a session key, but also has some handy new features, and MUCH more readable output. If you would like to help us test it (We haven't found any bugs in it with pine v3.96 and pgp v2.6.2), just drop me a line. NOTE: this program is available by request only until beta testing is completed, then we will post the perl script wherever. NOTE: be sure to include something in the Subject of your message pertaining to beta testing, as my mailbox gets flooded from time to time. Also, any suggestions as to other places to go for beta testers would be appreciated. Thank You, Patrick Farabee From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA06996 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:10:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA05925; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:10:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA24619; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:07:52 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA49292 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:05:16 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id HAA07674 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:05:14 -0700 Received: from tacom by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA03975; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:06:20 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:08:50 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Shawn Jeffries Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: newserver w/ comp.mail.pine ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@tacom X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Anyone know a FREE (i.e. open, public, no money) news server that has comp.mail.pine ? Please don't say 'Dejanews.com'. AFAIK, there's no way to connect to it via NNTP. Thanks a bunch, Shawn M. Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:31:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07261 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:31:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA06259; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:31:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA25803; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:28:12 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA50730 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:26:53 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA09544 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:26:51 -0700 Received: from relay1.impsat1.com (relay1.impsat1.com [200.31.1.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA06202 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:26:47 -0700 Received: from r11a10.impsat1.com (r11a10.impsat1.com [200.32.113.74]) by relay1.impsat1.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with SMTP id LAA14486 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:24:43 +0300 (GMT) Received: by r11a10.impsat1.com with Microsoft Mail id <01BCDE15.840DAEE0@r11a10.impsat1.com>; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:36:05 -0300 Message-Id: <01BCDE15.840DAEE0@r11a10.impsat1.com> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 08:47:12 -0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "EQA S.A.I.C." To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: BinHex 4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: "'Washington University'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I HAVE A WORD DOCUMENT ATTACHED TO AN E- MAIL MESSAGE SENT TO ME, AND I = NEED TO DECODE THIS FILE. THE MESSAGE WITH THE FILE IS "THIS FILE MUST = BE CONVERTED WITH BinHex 4.0". PLEASE, HELP ME. SERGIO. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07578 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA06729; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:57:02 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA30090; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:54:46 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA28682 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:53:05 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id HAA20879 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:53:03 -0700 Received: from tacom by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA04265; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:53:41 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:56:12 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: newserver w/ comp.mail.pine ? In-Reply-To: <19971021154952.14254@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@tacom X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >On Tue, Oct 21, 1997 at 10:08:50AM -0400, Shawn Jeffries wrote: >> >> Anyone know a FREE (i.e. open, public, no money) news server that has >> comp.mail.pine ? > >Do a websearch for "free newsservers", there are plenty. news.belvue.de >would be one, or news.access1.net > >Cheers, >Robin Yeah, I have tried that, but I've had bad luck as all the ones I try close up or disappear. Thanks for the info, Shawn M. Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:02:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA11148 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:02:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA17995; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:02:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA08487; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:56:51 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA45054 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:54:35 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA24880 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:54:33 -0700 Received: from verne.cuao.edu.co ([200.25.34.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA10010 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:54:16 -0700 Received: from micro16.univalle.edu.co by verne.cuao.edu.co (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA29560; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:42:53 +0500 Message-Id: <344CDCAD.46CC@calvin.univalle.edu.co> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:47:41 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: wilber varela To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mime tools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Please send mime tools e-mail wildvare@calvin.univalle.edu.co From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA12270 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:44:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA19245; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:44:06 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA38858; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:35:57 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA30804 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:34:07 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA06044 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:33:58 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01618; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:33:02 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 21 Oct 1997 18:33:01 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mime tools In-Reply-To: wilber varela's message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:47:41 -0500" References: <344CDCAD.46CC@calvin.univalle.edu.co> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: wilber varela X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> "wv" == wilber varela writes: wv> Please send mime tools Who do you think we are? The bloody Salvation Army or what? Grab a copy of the netiquette, read it, try to understand it and don't even think of mailing to this list again before you've done that. Robin -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQEVAwUBNEzZPLzilfG+yuTtAQH9FAf+KltZxdI+7lSEnI7Ht/gu3uIlKf0nbIhv AEzUYQ1F+WXDMtbP1AlUv27omz3x2IIriggSa2KWdObjqR5q+ch5UaTEmHo+TLEi Ft2apwg6n6EAZWb2awtr19LJEUmeZtOvQLDTvUeYG32iE13j6mxyFfkXDgt5+mUH zbuu0kVvubvhht6suuowEcMNzUk+ii+1lkeKfsfSFPLRNCQ6A4ZIZl/hdGy3KMTh eMx3QxXjf389rhieRvn1peGRYqTiknOj+TAcp9ZM1AP6gfXa/zZM+NFNIOHPxYaY 9AlHE2XdM0mmfG7nQNVSsWrilXmrva2VCRw/YeSNWP4lmrhGdHDgVw== =/rxv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Proudly running Linux 2.30 at work. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA12310 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA11411; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:45:32 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA54364; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:40:18 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA46966 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:35:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA27243 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:35:26 -0700 Received: from nevis.u.arizona.edu (nevis.U.Arizona.EDU [128.196.137.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA11167 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:35:23 -0700 Received: from localhost (gom@localhost) by nevis.u.arizona.edu (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA50336 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:31:33 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:31:32 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Guadalupe O Martinez To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Undelete MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I accidentally deleted a new message before reading it. Is there any way to retrieve this message? thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:45:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA12326 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:45:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA11415; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:45:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA11699; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:37:48 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA37732 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:34:09 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA06057 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:34:03 -0700 Received: from sunray.ccs.yorku.ca (z4KHSzJUKZWkS9lJ+/Z2hqc9ntEbhSNR@sunray.ccs.yorku.ca [130.63.236.86]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA11123 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:34:00 -0700 Received: from localhost (yu166112@localhost) by sunray.ccs.yorku.ca (8.8.7/8.6.11) with SMTP id NAA22295 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:33:58 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jennifer Lay To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: sunray.ccs.yorku.ca: yu166112 owned process doing -bs X-Sender: yu166112@sunray.ccs.yorku.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Why can I email some addresses and not others that were working fine earlier in the day? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:52:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA12657 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:52:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA19525; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:52:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA12659; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:47:07 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA45518 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:45:59 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA28458 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 10:45:56 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA01649; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:42:59 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 21 Oct 1997 18:42:59 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: none In-Reply-To: Jennifer Lay's message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:33:58 -0400 (EDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jennifer Lay X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "JL" == Jennifer Lay writes: JL> Why can I email some addresses and not others that were working JL> fine earlier in the day? Because the world is an angry sandwich, that's why. Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Sigh. I like to think it's just the Linux people who want to be on the "leading edge" so bad they walk right off the precipice. (C.E. Groeschel) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA13163 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12123; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:14:44 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA30358; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:08:54 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA51992 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:06:07 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA01106 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:06:00 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 21 Oct 97 20:05:44 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA13051; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:44:59 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 21 Oct 1997 07:44:57 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: wealth In-Reply-To: Ed Greshko's message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:42:05 +0800" References: <19971021094147egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Greshko X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "EG" == Ed Greshko schrieb am Tue, 21 Oct 1997 09:42:05 +0800: EG> Colin, As I continue to "pollute" the list.... :-) Spammer! [...] EG> Agree. I'm not beyond telling people to RTFM. I just don't suggest EG> they should have read it the answer a few days ago. Oh, yes! What's deja news and the archive for, anyway? EG> Depending on what side of the bed I got up on, how the cat is treating EG> me, how my wife is treating me, and how my wife is treating the cat EG> (ponder that one... :-) ) Ummm... you forgot: how your cat is treating the keyboard. My stoooopid Siberian just throw up on my favourite Cherry... *yukk* EG> I may give a "complete" answer or a simple "read XXXXX". I now EG> have another option and that is using Robin's FAQ index. Errr... that one's in the information centre now, too. But my site looks better, so just point them in my direction }:-> [...] EG> I don't think a "moderated" mailing list is a good idea. Let me moderate it for a few days and you'll know just *how* good it is. Ummm, make that "bad", not good... Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University "They don't let you teach there, do they?" Annelise Anderson in comp.mail.pine From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:17:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA13228 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:17:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12218; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:17:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA15347; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:13:06 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA15292 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:07:19 -0700 Received: from bilbo.mdh.se (bilbo.mdh.se [130.238.250.126]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA04025 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:07:15 -0700 Received: from localhost (dat95pkn@localhost) by bilbo.mdh.se (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA11209 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:06:39 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 20:06:39 +0200 (MET DST) Reply-To: dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Peter Karlsson To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Undelete In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Warning: Junk / bulk email will be reported X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Guadalupe O Martinez wrote: > I accidentally deleted a new message before reading it. Is there any way > to retrieve this message? No. You'll need to ask the sender to re-send it. -- \\// Peter - my other .signature has a cool remark From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:17:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA13245 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12221; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:17:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA13152; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:11:48 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA48398 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:06:06 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA13958 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:06:01 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 21 Oct 97 20:05:44 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id HAA13067; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 07:48:54 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 21 Oct 1997 07:48:53 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help! In-Reply-To: Shreedhar Reddy's message of "Mon, 20 Oct 1997 22:36:17 -0500 (CDT)" References: <971020223617.20297dde@ualr.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Shreedhar Reddy X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> Shreedhar Reddy writes: SR> Battchman, No, it's Robin-man, DuDE... SR> Here is what I have: SR> echo "You have "`grep -c 'Message-Id: ' varmail messages." SR> /spool/mail/mizar`" mail messages." When I look up dyslexic in a dictionary, do I get to find an article about you? SR> When I have this, it tells me, "You have 0 mail messages". I know SR> that this INBOX directory is correct and that I do have mail SR> messages there. I get the feeling that Unix does not like me or SR> something! I get the feeling that I do not like *you*. Can you read? R-T-F-M: *_/man biff/_* apropos is your friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend, is you friend... Robin - slightly unnerved -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University What the world needs now is killfiles that actually kill. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA13968 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12951; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:42:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA15849; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:39:21 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA50546 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:37:55 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA18086 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:37:52 -0700 Received: from uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (uxa.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.32.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA12823 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:37:49 -0700 Received: from ecom3.ecnet.net (bsjm10@ecom3 [143.43.32.23]) by uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id NAA14185 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:37:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (bsjm10@localhost) by ecom3.ecnet.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA14597 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:37:03 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:37:03 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Joseph Marshall To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Authentication-Warning: ecom3.ecnet.net: bsjm10 owned process doing -bs X-Sender: bsjm10@ecom3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN for some reason I am unable to recieve any of my incoming mail...my computers say..you have new mail, and my friends say they are writing me, and their mail is coming back to them...what should I do From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA14153 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:49:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA21140; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:49:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA16478; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:45:56 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA52036 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:43:37 -0700 Received: from bay2.bjt.net (root@bay2.bjt.net [207.201.6.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA18746 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:43:18 -0700 Received: from bay1.bjt.net (kstevens@bay1.bjt.net [207.201.6.1]) by bay2.bjt.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA24506; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:36:33 -0700 Received: from localhost (kstevens@localhost) by bay1.bjt.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id LAA07150; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:36:33 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 11:36:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Stevens To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help for attaching files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: mbabic@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: bay1.bjt.net: kstevens owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN If you have a pine interface that will work on a MAc then I would imagine that the commands should be the same. In the header, go to "attachment" and type ^j (Control J). That's what does it in ther PC version... Ken ------------------------------------ kstevens@bjt.net kstevens@splusnet.com kstevens@pacbell.net kstevens1@juno.com ks911@aol.com dante911@hotmail.com ken.stevens@readrite.com (work) On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 mbabic@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU wrote: > I use pine on a Mac. How do I attach files to email messages? > Specifically, I want to attach files I"ve made on Microsoft Word. I asked > the support staff at my university, but they only knew how to do it on a > PC, not on a Mac. Many thanks. > > > Mary Jean Babic > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA14648 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:08:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA13737; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:08:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA18057; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:05:00 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA20414 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:03:37 -0700 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA17135 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:03:35 -0700 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25746 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:03:34 -0600 Received: from localhost (maldridg@localhost) by gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA100812 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:03:29 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:03:28 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Help for attaching files In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Sender: maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 mbabic@ONLINE.EMICH.EDU wrote: > > > I use pine on a Mac. How do I attach files to email messages? > > Specifically, I want to attach files I"ve made on Microsoft Word. I asked > > the support staff at my university, but they only knew how to do it on a > > PC, not on a Mac. Many thanks. I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. If I brushed a user off with an "I don't know", I'd lose my job. Sheesh. Perhaps the staff misconstrued the meaning of 'support' in their job title??? Are you using Pine within a Unix-based account? If you are, then you first have to transfer the file from your MAC to your Unix account. Do you have Fetch or any other file transfer software on your machine? Use it to transfer the file to the home directory of your Unix account. Be sure to specify the filetype as binary. Then open a compose screen in Pine, and type the name of the file you uploaded in the Attchmnt: field and hit enter. You should see the filepath in the Attchmnt: field. Then send the message as usual. Let me know if you need specific instructions for using Fetch. Lea --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:30:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA15227 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA14301; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:30:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA21807; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:27:23 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA29872 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:25:55 -0700 Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA24049 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:25:35 -0700 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA25180 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:25:30 -0600 Received: from localhost (maldridg@localhost) by gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id NAA75218 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:25:27 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 13:25:27 -0600 (MDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Lea To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: none In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-Sender: maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 21 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >> "JL" == Jennifer Lay writes: > > JL> Why can I email some addresses and not others that were working > JL> fine earlier in the day? > > Because the world is an angry sandwich, that's why. Gah. Robin, are they not feeding you or something? Get some lunch. Jennifer, there is nowhere near enough information in your query to even begin to answer. What happens when you try to email the addresses that were working earlier and aren't now? Is mail bouncing back to you? If so, forward me one of the bounced messages with full headers on, and I'll see what I can tell from it... Lea ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) http://www.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/tutor/Tutorials.html http://gpu.srv.ualberta.ca/~maldridg/Wiz/Wizard '...But I didn't mean to be brave; it just sort of happened when I panicked...' -Piglet ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:54:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA15772 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:54:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA22738; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:54:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA23813; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:51:43 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA24182 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:49:00 -0700 Received: from bay2.bjt.net (root@bay2.bjt.net [207.201.6.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA15778 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:48:57 -0700 Received: from bay1.bjt.net (kstevens@bay1.bjt.net [207.201.6.1]) by bay2.bjt.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA25343; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:42:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (kstevens@localhost) by bay1.bjt.net (8.7.5/8.7.5) with SMTP id MAA08071; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:42:29 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 12:42:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ken Stevens To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Undelete In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Guadalupe O Martinez X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: bay1.bjt.net: kstevens owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yes, as long as you haven't exited pine. Just go to the deleted message and type in "U". If you have exited pine... then it will be too late! Ken ------------------------------------ kstevens@bjt.net kstevens@splusnet.com kstevens@pacbell.net kstevens1@juno.com ks911@aol.com dante911@hotmail.com ken.stevens@readrite.com (work) On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Guadalupe O Martinez wrote: > I accidentally deleted a new message before reading it. Is there any way > to retrieve this message? > > thank you > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:19:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA19866 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:19:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA18721; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:19:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA02056; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:16:46 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA03436 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:15:31 -0700 Received: from cwolf.alaska.edu (cwolf.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.100.202]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA10491 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 15:15:28 -0700 Received: from UAA.ALASKA.EDU by UAA.ALASKA.EDU (PMDF V5.1-8 #22326) id <01IP2L2C7M7A8X3NC7@UAA.ALASKA.EDU> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:15:59 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 14:15:59 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: BRIAN E NISONGER To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re:Problems on the Mac MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Well the attachment problem becomes tricky. Are you using the mac to access another server? If so the commands for doing that command on the PC will be the same. Beginnning of a Rant Your helpdesk people should beable to tell you how to do that. Ask them to figure it out. That is what they are paid for. They are just going to have to buckle down and learn how. That is how I have had to figure things out. It would be convient everytime someone ask a question I dont know to be able to say that. They should be able to figure it out if they play with for probably 5 minutes max End of Rant Brian Nisonger Computer Consultant AXBEN@UAA.ALASKA.EDU "Danger, Will Robinson" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA22864 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:14:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA21606; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:14:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA12238; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:11:58 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA43968 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:10:51 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA15625 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:10:49 -0700 Received: from ns3.k12.ar.us ([165.29.1.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA29022 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 17:10:46 -0700 Received: from starfish.nwsc.k12.ar.us (starfish.nwsc.k12.ar.us [165.29.24.1]) by ns3.k12.ar.us (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA03760 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 19:00:46 -0500 (CDT) Received: from STARFISH/SpoolDir by starfish.nwsc.k12.ar.us (Mercury 1.21); 21 Oct 97 18:59:26 CST Received: from SpoolDir by STARFISH (Mercury 1.21); 21 Oct 97 18:57:40 CST Received: from dork by starfish.nwsc.k12.ar.us (Mercury 1.21); 21 Oct 97 18:57:28 CST Message-Id: <75B46FE4007@starfish.nwsc.k12.ar.us> Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:58:46 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Matt Frazier" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there anyway I would be able to get a copy of a letter that came from your server? I don't know how to get it any other way. When it was originally sent to me, it took up more space than my screen would allow. I could read most of it, but I missed some of the text that went off my screen. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA23693 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:17:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA00307; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:17:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id SAA11403; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:14:30 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA27494 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:12:59 -0700 Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA19179 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:12:56 -0700 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id SAA06903; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:12:52 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:12:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David L Miller To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: subscriber-post only (was: Re: wealth) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN [ sorry about editing the subject, but the original doesn't quite reflect what we are discussing ;-) ] On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, David L Miller wrote: > > > On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > > > The list needs to be subscriber-post only, to start with. > > > > We're discussing that option right now, but would like to get some > > discussion from the group. Does anyone object? > > Yes! I object....... > > First, the "junk" we see here in the is list isn't all that bad. One > swift kick with the "d"elete key gets you past. > > Second, and more important, many of the folks sending to the mailing list > are "newbies". Some of them don't know enough to sign up to the list. > They simply send their inquiries "expecting" a response....as in "we" > *are* the helpdesk. This usually happens at the start of some school > year. When we discussed the split of pine-info and comp.mail.pine a while back, the consensus was to try to shift the pine-info focus toward Pine/System administrators and "power users." At least that was the consensus among the Pine Team ;-) That would seem to make it appropriate to put some sort of (low) hurdle between pine-info subscribers and joe-random-user.... -- David L. Miller | Do not meddle in the affairs of Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | Wizards, for they are subtle and Box 354841, University of Washington | quick to anger. -- J.R.R Tolkien 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:28:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA26210 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:28:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA03581; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:28:06 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA27464; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:26:44 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA11738 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:25:39 -0700 Received: from sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. ([202.141.63.160]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA19201 for ; Tue, 21 Oct 1997 22:23:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (sachin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA00254; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:55:13 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:55:12 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: Sachin Garg Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sachin Garg To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: subscriber-post only (was: Re: wealth) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David L Miller X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: sachin@sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, David L Miller wrote: > [ sorry about editing the subject, but the original doesn't quite > reflect what we are discussing ;-) ] > > On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote: > > > On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > On Sun, 19 Oct 1997, Timothy J Luoma wrote: > > > > > > > The list needs to be subscriber-post only, to start with. > > > > > > We're discussing that option right now, but would like to get some > > > discussion from the group. Does anyone object? > > > > Yes! I object....... > > > > First, the "junk" we see here in the is list isn't all that bad. One > > swift kick with the "d"elete key gets you past. > > > > Second, and more important, many of the folks sending to the mailing list > > are "newbies". Some of them don't know enough to sign up to the list. > > They simply send their inquiries "expecting" a response....as in "we" > > *are* the helpdesk. This usually happens at the start of some school > > year. > > When we discussed the split of pine-info and comp.mail.pine a while > back, the consensus was to try to shift the pine-info focus toward > Pine/System administrators and "power users." At least that was the > consensus among the Pine Team ;-) That would seem to make it > appropriate to put some sort of (low) hurdle between pine-info > subscribers and joe-random-user.... I am joining in a bit late, but the Usenet isn't really worth it. I serached Dejanews for a whole week for info regarding pine and pgp with a slow 9.6 kbps link shared by 100 people and what i got were a measly 6-7 messages that didn't even start to answer my question. One post here and my question gets answered in the first hour. Great, isn't it. BTW, at the pine-info web site, how does one do a search. There isn't any search form that I could see. TIA, sachin ******************************************************************** Sachin Garg Phone: +91-80-5584271/143/982 MTS Extn: 303 C-DAC, Fax: (080) 5584893 Ramanshree Plaza, 2/1, Brunton Road, BANGALORE 560 025 INDIA E-mail: sachin@cdacb.ernet.in ********************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 01:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA28084 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 01:00:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA28028; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 01:00:43 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA02922; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:59:23 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA40724 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:58:18 -0700 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA28208 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 00:58:15 -0700 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk (pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.6]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA11570; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:56:20 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:56:19 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jennifer Lay X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We, random people around the world who want to discuss the technical aspects of Pine and who are totally unfamiliar with the mail service at your University, have no idea. Please try asking your local computer support centre. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Jennifer Lay wrote: > > Why can I email some addresses and not others that were working fine > earlier in the day? > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 05:20:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA32578 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 05:20:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA09157; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 05:20:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA09445; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 05:18:12 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA32438 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 05:16:55 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA27899 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 05:16:52 -0700 Received: from edspc.sngcdc.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 20:15:42 +0800 Message-Id: <19971022201521egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 20:15:45 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ed Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: subscriber-post only (was: Re: wealth) Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: dlm@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > When we discussed the split of pine-info and comp.mail.pine a while > back, the consensus was to try to shift the pine-info focus toward > Pine/System administrators and "power users." At least that was the > consensus among the Pine Team ;-) That would seem to make it > appropriate to put some sort of (low) hurdle between pine-info > subscribers and joe-random-user.... OK....I understand. However, I don't think it "practical". I say that since many folks are still using 3.91 and I expect that even a larger portion are using and will continue to use 3.96. The "documentation" that comes with these doesn't indicate that the mailing list is for "power" users and if you put the up this low hurdle then the newbies don't get serviced. Unless, of course, you will have the listserver sending explict instuctions telling them that they must subscribe before they ask. But, once you do that it is no longer for power users...is it? Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGP-Key-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA02508 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA04865; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:48:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA21813; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:45:33 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA32262 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:43:02 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA28635 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:42:30 -0700 Received: from joxer.acsu.buffalo.edu (qmailr@joxer.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.120]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA12238 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:41:35 -0700 Received: (qmail 1274 invoked from network); 22 Oct 1997 15:41:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO acsu.buffalo.edu) (128.205.223.124) by joxer.acsu.buffalo.edu with SMTP; 22 Oct 1997 15:41:33 -0000 Message-Id: <344E2CA6.603B4960@acsu.buffalo.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:41:11 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Erik Mayer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: procmailrc question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I need some info on configuring a .procmailrc file: Here is the problem: For each mail message it processes, procmail should append the following information to a file: 1) Who sent the messsage 2) The subject line of the message 3) The final folder the message was delivered to How do I create this append statement? Any help or reference to another source is appreciated. Thanks much, -- Erik Mayer CIT Help Desk Consultant University at Buffalo esmayer@acsu.buffalo.edu ------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA02714 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:58:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA05113; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:58:42 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA50566; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:56:03 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA11634 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:53:24 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA27975 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:52:55 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA01813; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:48:55 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:48:53 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Stefan Kramer Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How to search pine-info web site [was: Re: subscriber-post only (was: Re: wealth)] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sachin Garg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On the page at http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ there are two buttons: [search] the archived messages' full text and [search] the archived messages' subjects only that take you to search-input pages. Note: These are only for searching the Pine-Info archives; the rest of the Pine Information Center has a searchable index accessible via the [search] button on its homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu PINE Information Center http://www.washington.edu/pine/ Computing & Communications University of Washington ------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Sachin Garg wrote: > ... BTW, at the > pine-info web site, how does one do a search. There isn't any search form > that I could see. > > TIA, > > sachin > > ******************************************************************** > Sachin Garg Phone: +91-80-5584271/143/982 > MTS Extn: 303 > C-DAC, Fax: (080) 5584893 > Ramanshree Plaza, > 2/1, Brunton Road, > BANGALORE 560 025 > INDIA E-mail: sachin@cdacb.ernet.in > ********************************************************************* > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:24:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA03607 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:24:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA13477; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:24:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA18699; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:20:34 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA38004 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:18:56 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA20796 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 09:18:24 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA14293; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:18:04 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 22 Oct 1997 17:18:03 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: procmailrc question In-Reply-To: Erik Mayer's message of "Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:41:11 -0500" References: <344E2CA6.603B4960@acsu.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Erik Mayer X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "EM" == Erik Mayer writes: EM> I need some info on configuring a .procmailrc file: man procmail | grep mailinglist -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Be warned that typing killall name may not have the desired effect on non-Linux systems, especially when done by a privileged user. (From the killall manual page) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA05703 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA16133; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:49:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA26318; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:46:21 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA44576 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:44:10 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA01673 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:43:17 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:42:17 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:42:17 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: procmailrc question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 22 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >> "EM" == Erik Mayer writes: > > EM> I need some info on configuring a .procmailrc file: > > man procmail | grep mailinglist Dude.....you're slipping!!!! A shorter, simpler answer.... procmail -v Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:03:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA06062 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:03:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA16466; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 11:03:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA27393; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:58:09 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA18266 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:55:49 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA03169 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 10:55:43 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA16225; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:55:43 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 22 Oct 1997 18:55:40 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: procmailrc question In-Reply-To: Edward M Greshko's message of "Thu, 23 Oct 1997 01:42:17 +0800 (GMT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: "Robin S. Socha" , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "EMG" == Edward M Greshko writes: EMG> On 22 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> >> "EM" == Erik Mayer writes: EM> I need some info on configuring a .procmailrc file: >> man procmail | grep mailinglist EMG> Dude.....you're slipping!!!! A shorter, simpler answer.... EMG> procmail -v Whiner! Even crisper: RTFM Cheers, Robin P.S. I guess that's what the devvies meant when they were talking about serious problems and administraton stuff, right? -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Proudly running Linux 2.30 at work. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA13111 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:14:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA24297; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:14:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA51704; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:11:55 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA42740 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:08:39 -0700 Received: from lark.cc.ukans.edu (lark.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.34.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA25266 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:08:34 -0700 Received: from puffin.cc.ukans.edu by lark.cc.ukans.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/12Jan95-0207PM) id AA03017; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:08:32 -0500 Message-Id: <344E87A6.2B7A978B@ukans.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:09:26 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Long To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: saved-msg-name-rule known bug? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, It appears that none of the last several releases of Pine when built using the 'osf' machine-type on Digital UNIX 4.0b properly recognize the 'saved-msg-name-rule' option in .pinerc. It seems every time Pine starts it overwrites whatever the user last chose for the option and replaces it with the 'by-from' option. Is this a known bug? By the way, is their a known-bug list out there somewhere and where do we report bugs? I looked through the docs, Washington's web site, etc. and couldn't find a good place for reporting this. Or is this where bugs are to be reported? Please respond by e-mail to me in addition to the list please. Jeff Long From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA13587 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:37:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA17255; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:37:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA24253; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:34:13 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA48274 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:32:19 -0700 Received: from lark.cc.ukans.edu (lark.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.34.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id QAA25968 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:31:40 -0700 Received: from puffin.cc.ukans.edu by lark.cc.ukans.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/12Jan95-0207PM) id AA26376; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:31:26 -0500 Message-Id: <344E8D04.C1E46C1B@ukans.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:32:20 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Long To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: saved-msg-name-rule known bug? References: <344E87A6.2B7A978B@ukans.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I guess I should have attached the bug report form at the bottom the first time... Jeff Long wrote: > > Hi, > It appears that none of the last several releases of Pine when built > using the 'osf' machine-type on Digital UNIX 4.0b properly recognize the > 'saved-msg-name-rule' option in .pinerc. It seems every time Pine > starts it overwrites whatever the user last chose for the option and > replaces it with the 'by-from' option. Is this a known bug? > > By the way, is their a known-bug list out there somewhere and where do > we report bugs? I looked through the docs, Washington's web site, etc. > and couldn't find a good place for reporting this. Or is this where > bugs are to be reported? > > Please respond by e-mail to me in addition to the list please. > > Jeff Long Pine built Wed Jan 22 15:59:03 CST 1997 on host: falcon.cc.ukans.edu ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = long, full = Jeff Long home = /homea/long home_dir= /homea/long hostname= raven.cc.ukans.edu localdom= cc.ukans.edu userdom= raven.cc.ukans.edu maildom= raven.cc.ukans.edu cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= inbox msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=vt100, ttyname=/dev/ttyp5, size=30x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Jeff Long user-id : long user-domain : raven.cc.ukans.edu inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : "" default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : signature-at-bottom : old-growth 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signature-at-bottom : old-growth saved-msg-name-rule : by-from fcc-name-rule : last-fcc-used last-time-prune-ques : 97.10 last-version-used : 3.95q save-by-sender : yes ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : raven.cc.ukans.edu inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : "" default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : emacs composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients image-viewer : /usr/bin/X11/xv use-only-domain-name : no printer : lpr -Psys standard-printer : "lpr -Psys" bugs-fullname : ACS Consulting bugs-address : question@falcon.cc.ukans.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support 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no-print-formfeed-between-messages no-quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-cursor no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== (0x0020) b (0x0062) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 16:55:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu 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sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id IAA01242; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 08:00:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 22 Oct 1997 08:00:04 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: subscriber-post only (was: Re: wealth) In-Reply-To: David L Miller's message of "Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:12:50 -0700 (PDT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David L Miller X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "DLM" == David L Miller writes: DLM> When we discussed the split of pine-info and comp.mail.pine a DLM> while back, the consensus was to try to shift the pine-info focus DLM> toward Pine/System administrators and "power users." At least DLM> that was the consensus among the Pine Team ;-) That would seem to DLM> make it appropriate to put some sort of (low) hurdle between DLM> pine-info subscribers and joe-random-user.... A multiple-choice test? Please, make it a multiple-choice test and put the answers in a digest (anonymized). }:-> Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Masochist: Windows programmer with a smile! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA14825 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA18560; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:31:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA03670; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:29:14 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA45950 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:25:26 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA19562 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:25:24 -0700 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA18448 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:25:22 -0700 Received: from dante23.u.washington.edu (lcanlas@dante23.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.73]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA46534 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:25:20 -0700 Received: from localhost (lcanlas@localhost) by dante23.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id RAA69808 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:25:19 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:25:19 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "L. Canlas" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN cancel (ctrl-c) won't work. what's the problem? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA15154 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:58:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA19091; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:57:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA05219; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:52:05 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA29242 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:49:15 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA06733 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:49:13 -0700 Received: from ecua.net.ec (ecua.net.ec [157.100.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA26421 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 17:49:05 -0700 Received: from MAIL.FINANCORP.FIN.EC by ecua.net.ec (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.04) id AA43932; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:47:31 -0400 Message-Id: <344EBBE2.5932@financorp.fin.ec> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:52:18 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Guillermo Franco S." To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: get packet driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Url: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/97.01/msg00581.html X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -- Deseo obtener software del paker driver Guillermo Franco S. Banco Financorp S.A. Internet: gfranco@financorp.fin.ec From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA15868 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:04:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA27660; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:04:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA08965; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:02:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id SAA30946 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:59:58 -0700 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id SAA29024 for ; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:59:56 -0700 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA10130; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:29:55 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.3/8.8.3) id XAA21073; Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:29:54 -0230 (NDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:29:54 -0230 (NDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to search pine-info web site [was: Re: subscriber-post only (was: Re: wealth)] In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Stefan Kramer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ahh, but I agree with the questioner. This doesn't work for me either. You go to this link, and then you see another link. Follow that link, and then it'll take you back to the page you just left, this one! There is one other link, but that heads off nowhere. On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > On the page at http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ there are two > buttons: > > [search] the archived messages' full text > > and > > [search] the archived messages' subjects only > > that take you to search-input pages. Note: These are only for searching > the Pine-Info archives; the rest of the Pine Information Center has a > searchable index accessible via the [search] button on its homepage. > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu > PINE Information Center http://www.washington.edu/pine/ > Computing & Communications University of Washington > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Sachin Garg wrote: > > > ... BTW, at the > > pine-info web site, how does one do a search. There isn't any search form > > that I could see. > > > > TIA, > > > > sachin > > > > ******************************************************************** > > Sachin Garg Phone: +91-80-5584271/143/982 > > MTS Extn: 303 > > C-DAC, Fax: (080) 5584893 > > Ramanshree Plaza, > > 2/1, Brunton Road, > > BANGALORE 560 025 > > INDIA E-mail: sachin@cdacb.ernet.in > > ********************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA19013 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:38:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA01980; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:38:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA14951; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:36:19 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA48428 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:34:57 -0700 Received: from mail.tropical.co.mz (root@[208.153.64.131]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA08365 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:34:52 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by mail.tropical.co.mz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA05419 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:35:29 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:35:29 +0200 (SAT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: root of all evil To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: mass mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, i'm a SysAdmin to a small ISP and i would like to know how can i send a mail message to all my users regarding problems and services without having to make each message by hand! ie: i had a problem related to my livingston portmaster and i would like to send a message regarding that. Thanks in Advance, alex From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:50:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA19134 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA24721; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:50:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA15468; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:48:29 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA19404 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:47:28 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA21073 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:47:24 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id IAA19125; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:46:58 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 23 Oct 1997 08:46:58 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mass mail In-Reply-To: root of all evil's message of "Thu, 23 Oct 1997 09:35:29 +0200 (SAT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: root of all evil X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "roae" == root of all evil writes: roae> Hi, i'm a SysAdmin to a small ISP I think you misspelled luser, Ruth. roae> and i would like to know how can i send a mail message to all my roae> users regarding problems and services without having to make each roae> message by hand! man sendmail roae> ie: i had a problem related to my livingston portmaster and i roae> would like to send a message regarding that. The problem you have is that your system is as open as a barnyard. In case you forget your password, just send me an email. Robin P.S. Is that a "power user" question, or is it a "sys admin" question, Ed? -- Robin S. Socha M.A. I did this 'cause Linux gives me a woody. It doesn't generate revenue. (Dave '-ddt->` Taylor, announcing DOOM for Linux) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:09:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA20044 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA02918; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:09:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA24804; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:06:53 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA37724 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:05:42 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA12133 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:05:40 -0700 Received: from ccrd200.cdc.polimi.it (ccrd200.cdc.polimi.it [131.175.6.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA02859 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:05:31 -0700 Received: from localhost by ccrd200.cdc.polimi.it with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA085617515; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:05:16 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:05:15 +0200 (METDST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Paolo Crespi To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: HELP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I just started using PINE at my university. I initializated my configuration with my Personal Name ("Paolo Crespi") but when I reply to a person in a newsgroup, the sender field is filled (for example) with To: it.comp.java instead of my personal name. What I have to do? Please reply soon! Thanks Paolo Crespi piu1836@ccrd200.cdc.polimi.it From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:32:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA20351 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:32:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA03113; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:31:55 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA31300; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:30:18 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA37776 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:29:15 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA09811 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:29:14 -0700 Received: from pubms.pku.edu.cn (pubms.pku.edu.cn [162.105.128.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA25731 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 02:29:10 -0700 Received: from localhost (seagull@localhost) by pubms.pku.edu.cn (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA21881 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:28:40 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:28:40 +0800 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: seagull@pubms.pku.edu.cn To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir(Lady): I'm a user of pine.I just wonder how can I "talk" in the screen,that means both me and the receiver can look the information together in the screen.Do pine have this function?and how? Have a nice day! Seagull From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:17:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA20883 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:17:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA03639; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:17:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA19045; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:16:45 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA18240 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:15:34 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA14312 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:15:31 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA19595; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 11:15:00 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 23 Oct 1997 11:14:59 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: seagull@pubms.pku.edu.cn's message of "Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:28:40 +0800 (CST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: seagull@pubms.pku.edu.cn X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "s" == seagull writes: s> I'm a user of pine.I just wonder how can I "talk" in the screen,that s> means both me and the receiver can look the information together in s> the screen.Do pine have this function?and how? *argl* Read the faq: or grab a printable version of it off my website: Then come back if you've either become a power user or a sysadmin. The correct place to ask this kind question is Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. "It's God. No, not Richard Stallman, or Linus Torvalds, but God." (Matt Welsh) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:27:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA20933 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA03730; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:27:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA26223; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:25:43 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA03482 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:24:32 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA26216 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:24:31 -0700 Received: from tc4hq.cmc.stph.net (tc4hq.cmc.stph.net [196.12.42.132]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id DAA26305 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 03:24:09 -0700 Message-Id: <199710231024.DAA26305@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 97 15:55 EDT Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: bhupi@tc4hq.cmc.stph.net To: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From bhupi Thu Oct 23 15:55:52 0400 1997 remote from tc4hq.cmc.stph.net Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:55:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Bhupendra Kumar To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: from bhupendra Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from tc4hq.cmc.stph.net by tc4hq.cmc.stph.net; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:55 EDT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 351 Dear Sir , I have one problem.I am getting a mail from one of my friend in delhi.It only diplays " reply message from praveen" ,the contents of the message can not be seen ,means the message received by me is incomplete. What may be the problem .Is it due to incopatibility of networks or something else, please give a reply. Thanks Bhupendra From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA21681 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:06:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA04370; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:06:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA20816; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:05:29 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA30714 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:04:18 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA27576 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:04:16 -0700 Received: from orca.cc.metu.edu.tr (orca.cc.metu.edu.tr [144.122.1.104]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id EAA04187 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 04:04:04 -0700 Received: from localhost by orca.cc.metu.edu.tr (AIX 4.2/UCB 5.64/4.03.METU.CLIENT) id AA60936; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:50:41 +0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 13:50:36 +0400 (MEDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ilker gursoy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Appreciation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN THANKS FOR CREATING PINE! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 05:51:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA22942 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 05:51:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA05664; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 05:51:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA23460; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 05:46:47 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA32368 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 05:44:28 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA19813 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 05:44:27 -0700 Received: from server2.rad.net.id (server2.rad.net.id [202.154.1.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA05553 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 05:43:49 -0700 Received: from radnet.rad.net (dyn2026b.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.60.26]) by server2.rad.net.id (8.8.5/RADNET) with SMTP id TAA06207 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 19:43:16 +0700 (WIB) Message-Id: <344F4706.3549@hotmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 19:45:58 +0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: ryan miller joseph lee To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Hello i need your help. 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hi, ryan miller.

here is my picture.
i like to do 69 too.  i also like anal sex.  do you?

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--------------5F872506435E-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:45:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA23898 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:44:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07207; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:44:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA07249; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:40:21 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA42548 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:38:09 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA28168 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:38:04 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:36:15 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:36:14 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <199710231024.DAA26305@mx2.cac.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: bhupi@tc4hq.cmc.stph.net X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 23 Oct 1997 bhupi@tc4hq.cmc.stph.net wrote: > Dear Sir , > > I have one problem.I am getting a mail from one of my friend in > delhi.It only diplays " reply message from praveen" ,the contents of the > message can not be seen ,means the message received by me is incomplete. > What may be the problem .Is it due to incopatibility of networks or > something else, please give a reply. Sounds like another VSNL problem.... -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA23911 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07242; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:46:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA29756; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:41:49 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA14648 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:38:09 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA28169 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:38:04 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:37:31 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:37:31 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Hello i need your help. I got a pic that must be opened with binhex4.0. Here is the file In-Reply-To: <344F4706.3549@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-877617451=:10163" X-To: ryan miller joseph lee X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-877617451=:10163 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, ryan miller joseph lee wrote: > i need you to help me open it and send it back to me. thanks. No...... But please have a script to do the work for you.... -- Edward M. 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0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:48:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA23945 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07275; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:48:21 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA25454; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:44:42 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA45506 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:40:09 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA09849 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:40:06 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:39:21 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:39:21 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mass mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 23 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > roae> ie: i had a problem related to my livingston portmaster and i > roae> would like to send a message regarding that. > > The problem you have is that your system is as open as a barnyard. In > case you forget your password, just send me an email. > > Robin > > P.S. Is that a "power user" question, or is it a "sys admin" question, > Ed? > If it is a question about a Livingston then you should ask Stanley, I presume. :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:50:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA23993 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:50:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA07320; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:50:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA00349; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:47:19 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA47560 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:41:16 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA25858 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:41:13 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:40:40 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 22:40:40 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: seagull@pubms.pku.edu.cn X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 23 Oct 1997 seagull@pubms.pku.edu.cn wrote: > I'm a user of pine.I just wonder how can I "talk" in the screen,that > means both me and the receiver can look the information together in the > screen.Do pine have this function?and how? > Have a nice day! Not a function of pine. It is too hazy in Singapore to have a nice day.... -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:39:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA31662 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:39:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA07526; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:39:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA00206; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:36:37 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA20464 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:34:12 -0700 Received: from lark.cc.ukans.edu (lark.cc.ukans.edu [129.237.34.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA14825 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:34:08 -0700 Received: from puffin.cc.ukans.edu by lark.cc.ukans.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.8.2/12Jan95-0207PM) id AA09339; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:34:06 -0500 Message-Id: <344FA701.836136C5@ukans.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:35:29 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jeff Long To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: [Fwd: saved-msg-name-rule known bug?] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------8F726E8DE4CDFD1173A61774" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------8F726E8DE4CDFD1173A61774 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit OK, Problem found. We were using an old pine.conf file containing a elm-style-save="yes" line which causes newer Pine to ignore the saved-msg-name-rule option and in fact overwrite it each time Pine starts. Jeff Long --------------8F726E8DE4CDFD1173A61774 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <344E87A6.2B7A978B@ukans.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 18:09:26 -0500 From: Jeff Long X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@u.washington.edu Subject: saved-msg-name-rule known bug? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, It appears that none of the last several releases of Pine when built using the 'osf' machine-type on Digital UNIX 4.0b properly recognize the 'saved-msg-name-rule' option in .pinerc. It seems every time Pine starts it overwrites whatever the user last chose for the option and replaces it with the 'by-from' option. Is this a known bug? By the way, is their a known-bug list out there somewhere and where do we report bugs? I looked through the docs, Washington's web site, etc. and couldn't find a good place for reporting this. Or is this where bugs are to be reported? Please respond by e-mail to me in addition to the list please. Jeff Long --------------8F726E8DE4CDFD1173A61774-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA00914 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:08:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA09685; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:08:29 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA06721; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:04:39 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA45812 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:02:22 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA25284 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:01:54 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA07156; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:00:30 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:00:29 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Stefan Kramer Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to search pine-info web site In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Andrew Vardy X-Cc: Sachin Garg , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Can you describe the problem you are encountering in more detail? (Are you actually unable to perform a search with the pages at and http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/search.cgi http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/subjects/search-subjects.cgi, or ... ? In that case: what browser are you using?) ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu PINE Information Center http://www.washington.edu/pine/ Computing & Communications University of Washington ------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote: > From: Andrew Vardy > Message-ID: > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:29:54 -0230 (NDT) > Subject: Re: How to search pine-info web site [was: Re: subscriber-post only (was: Re: wealth)] > > > Ahh, but I agree with the questioner. This doesn't work for me either. > > You go to this link, and then you see another link. Follow that link, and > then it'll take you back to the page you just left, this one! > > There is one other link, but that heads off nowhere. > > On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > > > > On the page at http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ there are two > > buttons: > > > > [search] the archived messages' full text > > > > and > > > > [search] the archived messages' subjects only > > > > that take you to search-input pages. Note: These are only for searching > > the Pine-Info archives; the rest of the Pine Information Center has a > > searchable index accessible via the [search] button on its homepage. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu > > PINE Information Center http://www.washington.edu/pine/ > > Computing & Communications University of Washington > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Sachin Garg wrote: > > > > > ... BTW, at the > > > pine-info web site, how does one do a search. There isn't any search form > > > that I could see. > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > sachin > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > > Sachin Garg Phone: +91-80-5584271/143/982 > > > MTS Extn: 303 > > > C-DAC, Fax: (080) 5584893 > > > Ramanshree Plaza, > > > 2/1, Brunton Road, > > > BANGALORE 560 025 > > > INDIA E-mail: sachin@cdacb.ernet.in > > > ********************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:51:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA01817 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:51:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA18133; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:51:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA02276; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:47:54 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA42018 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:45:53 -0700 Received: from shell.planetc.com ([207.65.96.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA17239 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 14:45:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (wiggles@localhost) by shell.planetc.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07697; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:48:11 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:48:11 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Monica Boggs To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Appreciation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: ilker gursoy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'd like to throw in my thanks for creating Pine also. Monica Boggs and guide dog, Wiggles wiggles@shell.planetc.com If dog hair was money, I'd be a billionaire. If dog hair was bills, I'd be in debtors prison From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:09:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA02343 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:09:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA11236; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:09:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA11954; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:07:16 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA45998 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:05:27 -0700 Received: from dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.9]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA03412 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:05:21 -0700 Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id RAA22975 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:04:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: from gardenia.his.ucsf.edu(128.218.40.105) by dfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma022919; Thu Oct 23 17:04:33 1997 Message-Id: <01bcdfff$9d5b9290$6928da80@mcbcbt.his.ucsf.edu> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 15:04:20 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adrian Antonio Johnson" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: subscribe pine-info Adrian Antonio Johnson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01BCDFC4.F0FCBA90" X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BCDFC4.F0FCBA90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BCDFC4.F0FCBA90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 
------=_NextPart_000_0006_01BCDFC4.F0FCBA90-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA04708 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:46:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA13394; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:46:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA18493; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:44:02 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA19362 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:41:59 -0700 Received: from servidor.unam.mx (redvax1.dgsca.unam.mx [132.248.104.4]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA05007 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:41:55 -0700 Received: from servidor.unam.mx (shadowcat.dgsca.unam.mx [132.248.71.85]) by servidor.unam.mx (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA21865 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:45:12 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <344FE0B5.58ED4C98@servidor.unam.mx> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:41:41 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Iván Gabriel Figueroa Uribe" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: ISO8859 for hypermail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi there: I want you to do me a favor, please. I'm working with hypermail, but I have a problem compiling e-mails because it doesn't accept special characters, for instance, when you are working in a html document, you use á or ñ for special letters (á and ñ). In my case, I want hypermail to compile with those special characters. What can I do??? Do I need a special software or do I have to configure hypermail????? Help me, please. Atte. Ivan Figueroa. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:58:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA04974 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA13711; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:57:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA19372; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:53:49 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA17694 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:52:25 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA06280 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:52:20 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:51:30 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:51:29 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: ISO8859 for hypermail In-Reply-To: <344FE0B5.58ED4C98@servidor.unam.mx> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Iv=E1n_Gabriel_Figueroa_Uribe?= X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Iv=E1n Gabriel Figueroa Uribe wrote: > I'm working with hypermail, but I have a problem compiling e-mails > because it doesn't accept special characters, for instance, when you are > working in a html document, you use á or ñ for special > letters (=E1 and =F1). In my case, I want hypermail to compile with those > special characters. What can I do??? Do I need a special software or do > I have to configure hypermail????? You are asking questions about "hypermail" on the "pine" mailing list?? I think you have the wrong "number". Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:28:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA05850 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:28:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA14489; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:28:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA20826; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:20:55 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA29738 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:19:40 -0700 Received: from academ01.chi.itesm.mx (root@academ01.chi.itesm.mx [200.34.100.15]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA09344 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:19:27 -0700 Received: from Micro12.chi.itesm.mx ([200.34.100.162]) by academ01.chi.itesm.mx (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA10116; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 18:23:32 -0500 Message-Id: <344FEA46.1D60@academ01.chi.itesm.mx> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 19:22:30 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Gaby Estrada To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Looking for infomation about quality service MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My name is Lety Suárez, I am mexican and I am studing College. In one of my classes I have to do an investigation about de rules for give a excellent custumer service; I will be glad if you could send me some information about it. al751342@campus.chi.itesm.mx From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:57:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA08161 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:57:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA17567; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:57:33 -0700 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA50706; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:55:41 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA40946 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:54:21 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA21709 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:54:20 -0700 Received: from bstslog.kymtnnet.org (root@bstslog.kymtnnet.org [206.101.119.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA24943 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:54:18 -0700 Received: from kymtnnet.org (pm2-3.kymtnnet.org [206.101.119.68]) by bstslog.kymtnnet.org (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA18536 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:07:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <34501B71.5DD4832E@kymtnnet.org> Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 23:52:18 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Angie Morris To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: talk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, i have been very bad, ive been licking your shoes when you did not know, i think you should trample me and smoyher me with you lovely ass untill i just about pass out need your help, my name is chaz im 6/1 blue eyes, 195 pounds well built have black hair and really need a mistress. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA08824 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:57:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA25763; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:57:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA27376; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:55:25 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA36674 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:53:39 -0700 Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id VAA10823 for ; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:53:38 -0700 Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (batchman) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xObkd-00046z-00; Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:53:35 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 21:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Shoeless in San Jose Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shoeless in San Jose To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: talk In-Reply-To: <34501B71.5DD4832E@kymtnnet.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: batchman@slip-3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Angie Morris wrote: > Hello, i have been very bad, ive been licking your shoes when you did > not know, If you were licking *my* shoes, you must've been in the closet doing it, and I have to wonder how long it'll take you to get all that dust out of your mouth. > i think you should trample me Trample you? Not a bad idea! > and smoyher me with you lovely ass untill i just about pass out need > your help, Smother you with my ass? Well, you're close! ...and, uh, Chaz, the 't' key is to the LEFT of the y! > my name is chaz im 6/1 blue eyes, 195 pounds well built Geez, if you're 6/1 and 195 pounds you must be about as fat as me! No wonder you can't get any. > have black hair and really need a mistress. Gee, mine's dark, but I don't think it's black. Maybe you should see a doctor about that. As for the mistress, what do you expect to do with her if she's in here...suck her cyberbits?!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:38:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA32661 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:38:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA20484; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:38:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA13321; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:37:16 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA14240 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:35:49 -0700 Received: from mail.tropical.co.mz (root@[208.153.64.131]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA20560 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 00:35:29 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by mail.tropical.co.mz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA10669; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:35:42 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:35:42 +0200 (SAT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: root of all evil To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mass mail In-Reply-To: <199710230832.KAA23467@obelix.wave.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Helle X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Helle wrote: > what platform do u run ? what mailprog do u use ? > > _ __ ____ __ __ ___ > | | /| / // __ `/ | / // _ \ > | |/ |/ // /_/ /| |/ // __/ > |__/|__/ \__,_/ |___/ \___/ > > Peter Hellmann :: WAVE group > mailto: phellman@wave.de > telephone: +49-7043-949-404 > telefax: +49-7043-949-411 > http://www.wave.de > http://www.w-4.de/~hellmann well, it seems there is a person who wants to help, i'm using linux RedHat and Slackware with Sendmail, and i'm asking this in SYSADMIN mode. hehehe i just want to send a mail message to all my users without having to right each one of them! thanks for your help! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 02:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA11771 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 02:10:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA28955; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 02:10:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA06545; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 02:09:29 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA51694 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 02:08:25 -0700 Received: from sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. ([202.141.63.160]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA23497 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 02:07:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (sachin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA04353; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:38:28 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:38:26 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sachin Garg To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to search pine-info web site In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1916100545-1579322998-877684106=:4307" X-To: Stefan Kramer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: sachin@sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1916100545-1579322998-877684106=:4307 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > Can you describe the problem you are encountering in more detail? (Are you > actually unable to perform a search with the pages at and > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/search.cgi > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/subjects/search-subjects.cgi, or > .... ? In that case: what browser are you using?) > I was using Lynx 2.7. With that, I didn't get the form. Using Netscape 3.01, I am getting the form. My OS is Linux 2.0.30. 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Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mass mail In-Reply-To: root of all evil's message of "Fri, 24 Oct 1997 09:35:42 +0200 (SAT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Joe Random Luser X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "JRL" == Joe Random Luser thought she >> needed to say: JRL> On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Helle wrote: [look, she cannot quote...] JRL> well, it seems there is a person who wants to help, ... on the wrong list ... JRL> i'm using linux RedHat and Slackware with Sendmail, You said it -> SENDMAIL, not pine. JRL> and i'm asking this in SYSADMIN mode. hehehe You're still not spelling braindead moron mode correctly. Sheeesh, it must really suck to be you. JRL> i just want to send a mail message to all my users without JRL> having to right each one of them! You've said that already. Now will you please Read Gur Shpxvat Manual (man sendmail) and stop mailing to this list? -- Robin S. Socha M.A. CEO German Web Force From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 03:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA12750 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 03:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA29816; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 03:31:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA07815; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 03:29:53 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA48628 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 03:28:41 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA25828 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 03:28:39 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA00752; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:10:49 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 24 Oct 1997 11:10:48 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to search pine-info web site In-Reply-To: Sachin Garg's message of "Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:38:26 +0530 (IST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sachin Garg X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "SG" == Sachin Garg writes: SG> On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Stefan Kramer wrote: >> Can you describe the problem you are encountering in more detail? >> In that case: what browser are you using?) Shouldn't pages like these be browser-independent? The html used on this page isn't valid, btw. SG> I was using Lynx 2.7. With that, I didn't get the form. Using SG> Netscape 3.01, I am getting the form. My OS is Linux 2.0.30. May I kindly suggest using the standard mask glimpse http comes with instead of the script you're using on this site? It's really handy and stuff and can be found here: [snipped soapbox] Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Apples have meant trouble since eden From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 05:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA12483 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 05:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA24256; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 05:58:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA22859; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 05:57:07 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA25110 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 05:55:54 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA23104 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 05:55:52 -0700 Received: from soback.kornet.nm.kr (root@soback.kornet.nm.kr [168.126.3.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA01853 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 05:55:49 -0700 Received: from ibm-valuepoint (P197-A-hh4.kornet.nm.kr [210.123.11.197]) by soback.kornet.nm.kr (8.8.7H1/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA18114 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:54:56 +0900 (KST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19971024213955.0068b554@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:39:58 +0900 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jae Hoon Kim To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: unified messaging client Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: polypix@soback.kornet.nm.kr (Unverified) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear representative, I have a plan to make an unified messaging client supporting fax and voice as well as pop3 mail. To shorten time, we chose Microsoft Exchange Server as messaging server and outlook as client. Now all we have to do is add some functionallities to Exchange server and Outlook client. Regarding voice and fax side, we have an OCX to build respective features. It would be very appreciated that you give me a comment about this. Thank you so much. Sincerely, Jaison Kim 1997/10/24 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:56:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA15137 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA02726; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:56:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA26555; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:50:03 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA20250 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:48:43 -0700 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA07002 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 06:48:40 -0700 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id OAA01365; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:48:04 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 24 Oct 1997 14:48:04 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: unified messaging client In-Reply-To: Jae Hoon Kim's message of "Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:39:58 +0900" References: <3.0.32.19971024213955.0068b554@soback.kornet.nm.kr> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jae Hoon Kim X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "JHK" == Jae Hoon Kim writes: JHK> Dear representative, Greetings, Jae Hoon Kim, JHK> I have a plan to make an unified messaging client supporting fax JHK> and voice as well as pop3 mail. The world has indeed been waiting for this. You have chosen the right path. JHK> To shorten time, we chose Microsoft Exchange Server as messaging JHK> server and outlook as client. A wise choice. Using MS ES will certainly shorten time. JHK> Now all we have to do is add some functionallities to Exchange JHK> server and Outlook client. Yes. There is an old German saying: "A functionality a day keeps the doctor away". With respect to this, I think that an fdisk button would be quite appropriate. You might also consider an any key key. JHK> Regarding voice and fax side, we have an OCX to build respective JHK> features. Very good. Konfuse says: "Building respective features is a sign of wisdom". You should stick to that. JHK> It would be very appreciated that you give me a comment about JHK> this. A comment about what? Mailing totally irrelevant ohyyfuvg about a pathetic piece of software called "OS", invented by an nany ergragvir cevpx and a band of oenvaqrnq furrcfunttref from Redmont? GAL. Yours faithfully, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. "Linux: the operating system with a CLUE... Command Line User Environment". From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:03:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA15952 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:03:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03823; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:03:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA20850; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:59:51 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA27010 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:57:45 -0700 Received: from rufus.loclnet.com ([209.45.158.11]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id HAA11356 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 07:57:41 -0700 Received: from lnppp45.loclnet.com (lnppp45.loclnet.com [209.45.158.145]) by rufus.loclnet.com (NTMail 3.03.0012/1.ac3c) with ESMTP id xa096717 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:49:39 -0400 Message-Id: <14493989000046@loclnet.com> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:57:01 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Don Tillman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: MIME-aware tools MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN how do i get it From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:19:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA16288 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:19:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26576; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:19:32 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA22136; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:16:53 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA50898 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:15:27 -0700 Received: from green.indy.net (green.indy.net [199.3.65.18]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA28817 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 08:15:21 -0700 Received: from indy4 (pfarabee@indy4.indy.net [199.3.65.4]) by green.indy.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA17972 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:14:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 10:14:49 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Noone Special To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: MIME-aware tools In-Reply-To: <14493989000046@loclnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: pfarabee@indy4 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Don Tillman wrote: > From: Don Tillman > > how do i get it Apparently, not very easily Pat From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:29:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA19417 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA09010; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:28:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA17290; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:24:12 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA48314 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:21:00 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA21104 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:20:59 -0700 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (skramer@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA29547; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:19:59 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 11:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: Stefan Kramer Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Stefan Kramer To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to search pine-info web site In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sachin Garg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN With Lynx, you (should ;-) get a prompt at the bottom of the screen saying "This is a searchable index. Use S or s to search." After pressing the "S" key, you enter your query, just as you do in the text box you get with graphical browsers, and hit Enter. (You didn't get a form because there really *is* no HTML form -- these two input pages use the method.) ---------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu ---------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Sachin Garg wrote: > On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > > > > Can you describe the problem you are encountering in more detail? (Are you > > actually unable to perform a search with the pages at and > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/search.cgi > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/subjects/search-subjects.cgi, or > > .... ? In that case: what browser are you using?) > > > > I was using Lynx 2.7. With that, I didn't get the form. Using Netscape > 3.01, I am getting the form. My OS is Linux 2.0.30. > > Hope this info helps you in tracj\king down the problem. > > tia, > > sachin > > > ******************************************************************** > Sachin Garg Phone: +91-80-5584271/143/982 > MTS Extn: 303 > C-DAC, Fax: (080) 5584893 > Ramanshree Plaza, > 2/1, Brunton Road, > BANGALORE 560 025 > INDIA E-mail: sachin@cdacb.ernet.in > ********************************************************************* > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:21:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA21591 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:21:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA02544; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:21:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA11123; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:18:08 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA11674 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:15:59 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA13292 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:15:58 -0700 Received: from ns2.emirates.net.ae (ns2.emirates.net.ae [194.170.1.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA02422 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:15:53 -0700 Received: from ns2.emirates.net.ae (cst038.emirates.net.ae [194.170.167.166]) by ns2.emirates.net.ae (8.8.6/8.6) with SMTP id XAA19335 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:15:01 -0400 (GMT) Message-Id: <3450F1B3.476D@emirates.net.ae> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:06:57 +0400 Reply-To: ymalik@emirates.net.ae Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: MALIK To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Please Help! I need information on literary forms. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Sir, I am trying to find more information about this short story "The Legend of Sleepy Hollow" by Washington Irving and other stories as a literary forms, I would greatly appreciate it if you could please help me search for information which addresses such issues as themes that elucidate the story and etc. I would greatly appreciate your co-operation ASAP. Awaiting anxiously for your reply. Sincerely, K. Malik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 13:00:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA22347 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 13:00:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA11009; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 13:00:01 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA14982; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:56:03 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA49562 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:53:54 -0700 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA07483 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:53:42 -0700 Received: from leofric.coventry.ac.uk (rrakkar@leofric.coventry.ac.uk [193.61.107.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA10878 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 12:53:37 -0700 Received: (from rrakkar@localhost) by leofric.coventry.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.6.11) id UAA15006; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 20:53:36 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 20:53:35 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: RAVINDERJEET KAUR RAKKAR To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: QUERY MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: rrakkar@leofric X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN PLEASE COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT "AN OBSOLETE RELEASE OF PINE" MEANS. I AM NOT VERY LITERATE IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. COULD YOU TELL ME IF THERE IS AN E-MAIL DIRECTORY AS I AM RECIEVING E-MEILS FROM PEOPLE I DO NOT KNOW. I ALSO NEED TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY POSSIBILITY OF ME CHANGING MY CURRENT USER NAME. THANKYOU VERY MUCH. PLEASE REPLY ASAP From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:19:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA24036 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:19:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA05413; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:19:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA01723; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:15:23 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA29768 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:12:47 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA26479 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:12:40 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 24 Oct 97 23:12:23 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id VAA26913; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 21:53:05 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 24 Oct 1997 21:53:05 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: FYI: [gnu.emacs.gnus] Re: different 'From' for news and mail-how to? Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Fri_Oct_24_21:53:05_1997-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN --Multipart_Fri_Oct_24_21:53:05_1997-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Hi there, since we are currently witnessing a *heated* debate into which direction this list should be going (hello, Ed...), I'd like to draw your attention to something that is being brought up at least once a week: forging one's own mail address to "fight spam". Now, I do it to, but according to what Justin Sheehy has imvho quite gracefully put in his posting to c.e.g. My suggestion would be to cancel all messages that have illegal headers. If this list is to discuss "serious" matters, one should expect the writers to know what they're doing, i.e. to have read their RFCs. In the same vein, I think that messages from root@foo.bar ought to be cancelled. I for one haven't seen anything senseful coming from either side, yet. Now hate me }:-> Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly. It just happens to be selective about who it makes friends with. --Multipart_Fri_Oct_24_21:53:05_1997-1 Content-Type: message/rfc822 From: Justin Sheehy Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Subject: Re: different 'From' for news and mail-how to? Date: 22 Oct 1997 14:10:42 -0400 Organization: The MITRE Corporation Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Marty Fouts writes: > I'm as much in favor of fighting spam head to head as anyone, but I'd > *really* like to see the RFC that defines one's "real address." I have included the relevant secyions of RFC 1036 below. By real address, I am thinking of a working electronic mail address that will reach the poster. > the closest an RFC comes to such a declaration is to require that an > address given be canonical in form. Incorrect. > I do know for certain that there is *NO* RFC that requires that I post > from an address that I read mail destined to. It requires that your header contains "the electronic mailing address of the person who sent the message". I read this as "a correct, functioning address that will reach the person who sent the message". If an RFC states that you need to provide something, it should not also have to specify that the something in question actually work. > Thus, the easiest way to deal with spam is to maintain two (or more) > email addresses, always post from one you never read and make sure > some mechanism cleans out the mail sent to it from time to time. That is an acceptable solution to me, although actually scanning that mailbox before mass-deleting might be a good idea. *** RFC 1036 Standard for USENET Messages December 1987 2.1.1. From The "From" line contains the electronic mailing address of the person who sent the message, in the Internet syntax. It may optionally also contain the full name of the person, in parentheses, after the electronic address. The electronic address is the same as the entity responsible for originating the message, unless the "Sender" header is present, in which case the "From" header might not be verified. 2.2.2. Sender This field is present only if the submitter manually enters a "From" line. It is intended to record the entity responsible for submitting the message to the network. It should be verified by the software at the submitting host. *** Thus, if neither of those headers contains your email address, then you or your software is not compliant with the most important RFC for usenet messages. I do not wish to aid people in acting in a way that is clearly incorrect and inconsiderate. I am not trying to stop them, but neither will I aid them in their futile movements. -- Justin Sheehy In a cloud bones of steel. --Multipart_Fri_Oct_24_21:53:05_1997-1-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:26:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA24216 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:26:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA05600; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:26:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA02280; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:23:53 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA14066 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:22:22 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA18039 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 14:22:14 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 24 Oct 97 23:21:57 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA27798; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 22:19:40 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 24 Oct 1997 22:19:38 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: QUERY In-Reply-To: RAVINDERJEET KAUR RAKKAR's message of "Fri, 24 Oct 1997 20:53:35 +0100 (BST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: RAVINDERJEET KAUR RAKKAR X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> RAVINDERJEET KAUR RAKKAR writes: RKR> PLEASE COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT "AN OBSOLETE RELEASE OF PINE" RKR> MEANS. It means it is out of date. You should get a newer one. RKR> I AM NOT VERY LITERATE IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. COULD YOU TELL RKR> ME IF THERE IS AN E-MAIL DIRECTORY AS I AM RECIEVING E-MEILS RKR> FROM PEOPLE I DO NOT KNOW. Yes. This phenomenon is called UCE (unsolicited commercial email) or simply spam. If you find this really troublesome, you might want to talk to you system administrator to have him take appropriate measures. RKR> I ALSO NEED TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY POSSIBILITY OF ME CHANGING MY RKR> CURRENT USER NAME. Yes. You have to talk to your sys admin, again. If that's what you mean. The name that appears in your messages can be changed if you goto M(ain) S(etup) C(onfig) and ... well - change it :-) BTW, all caps are considered SHOUTING, you know ;-) Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:35:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA26394 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:35:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA08258; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:35:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA28964; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:32:17 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA51270 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:30:56 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA08444 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:30:54 -0700 Received: from mail1.teleport.com (mail1.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA08153 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:30:50 -0700 Received: from markwebb (ip-pdx02-25.teleport.com [206.163.123.58]) by mail1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21461 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:30:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <01bce0d5$625c4000$3a7ba3ce@markwebb> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:34:34 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Mark Webber" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: No more mail please MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001A_01BCE09A.B5FD6800" X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BCE09A.B5FD6800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable UW Robot, I'm a bit confused why we got this e-mail. Is there some kind of = mistake? How did you get us on your list? We would really appreciate it if you = could remove our address from you list. Good Day, Mark Webber ------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BCE09A.B5FD6800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
UW Robot,
I'm a bit confused why we got this e-mail.  Is = there some=20 kind of mistake?
How did you get us on your list?  We would = really=20 appreciate it if you could
remove our address from you list.
Good=20 Day,
Mark Webber
 
------=_NextPart_000_001A_01BCE09A.B5FD6800-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA26408 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:36:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA08274; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:36:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA29060; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:33:42 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA35322 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:32:16 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA08538 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:32:13 -0700 Received: from mail1.teleport.com (mail1.teleport.com [192.108.254.26]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA08180 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:32:10 -0700 Received: from markwebb (ip-pdx02-25.teleport.com [206.163.123.58]) by mail1.teleport.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with SMTP id QAA21802 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:31:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <01bce0d5$80bda7a0$3a7ba3ce@markwebb> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 16:35:25 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Mark Webber" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: No more e-mail please!!! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_002F_01BCE09A.D45ECFA0" X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BCE09A.D45ECFA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable UW Robot, I'm a bit confused why we got this e-mail. Is there some kind of = mistake? How did you get us on your list? We would really appreciate it if you = could remove our address from you list. Good Day, Mark Webber ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BCE09A.D45ECFA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
UW Robot,
I'm a bit confused why we got this e-mail.  Is = there some=20 kind of mistake?
How did you get us on your list?  We would = really=20 appreciate it if you could
remove our address from you list.
Good=20 Day,
Mark Webber
 
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01BCE09A.D45ECFA0-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:22:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA27396 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:22:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA16614; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:22:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA01455; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:19:19 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA19062 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:17:42 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA06101 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:17:38 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:17:01 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:17:00 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: unified messaging client In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19971024213955.0068b554@soback.kornet.nm.kr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Jae Hoon Kim X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Jae Hoon Kim wrote: > Regarding voice and fax side, we have an OCX to build respective features. > > It would be very appreciated that you give me a comment about this. This group is generally not suited to the questions you have. I suggest you look to IETF-FAX@imc.org for help. Best Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA27407 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA09240; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:24:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA01763; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:22:56 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA44694 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:21:41 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA12809 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 17:21:38 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:21:01 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:21:00 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FYI: [gnu.emacs.gnus] Re: different 'From' for news and mail-how to? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 24 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > since we are currently witnessing a *heated* debate into which direction > this list should be going (hello, Ed...), Hi Robin.... > I'd like to draw your attention > to something that is being brought up at least once a week: forging one's > own mail address to "fight spam". Now, I do it to, but according to what > Justin Sheehy has imvho quite gracefully put in his posting to c.e.g. > > My suggestion would be to cancel all messages that have illegal > headers. If this list is to discuss "serious" matters, one should > expect the writers to know what they're doing, i.e. to have read > their RFCs. > > In the same vein, I think that messages from root@foo.bar ought to be > cancelled. I for one haven't seen anything senseful coming from either > side, yet. I agree with both suggestions. Hope your Siberian and your Cherry are doing much better. :-) -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:49:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA30569 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:49:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA21213; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:49:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA28337; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:47:51 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA23038 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:46:47 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA22672 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:46:46 -0700 Received: from uhura.concentric.net (uhura.concentric.net [206.173.119.93]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA13889 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:46:43 -0700 Received: from cliff.concentric.net (cliff [206.173.119.90]) by uhura.concentric.net (8.8.7/(97/09/12 5.7)) id CAA03463; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 02:46:42 -0400 (EDT) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from concentric.net (ts002d06.sal-or.concentric.net [207.155.239.42]) by cliff.concentric.net (8.8.7) id CAA22217; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 02:46:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <34513380.E9A0EF08@concentric.net> Date: Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:47:12 +0000 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Susan Marshall To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: legal name change MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am interested in gathering information on changing my stepdaughters last name to mine. Can you please supply me with data on how to proceed? Thanks, Charlie Marshall chazbo@rocketmail.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA23890 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:00:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA21335; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:00:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA16070; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:58:49 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA14330 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:57:36 -0700 Received: from sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. ([202.141.63.160]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA06265 for ; Fri, 24 Oct 1997 23:48:02 -0700 Received: from localhost (sachin@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA01645; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:15:29 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:15:28 +0530 (IST) Reply-To: Sachin Garg Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Sachin Garg To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to search pine-info web site In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Stefan Kramer X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: sachin@sangam.cdacb.ernet.in. X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > With Lynx, you (should ;-) get a prompt at the bottom of the screen saying > > "This is a searchable index. Use S or s to search." Well, I don't get that. But it does work. Thanks a lot. I guess I just didn't see that. sachin > > After pressing the "S" key, you enter your query, just as you do in the > text box you get with graphical browsers, and hit Enter. (You didn't get a > form because there really *is* no HTML form -- these two input pages use > the method.) > > ---------------------------------------------------- > Stefan Kramer \|/ skramer@cac.washington.edu > ---------------------------------------------------- > > On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Sachin Garg wrote: > > > On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > > > > > > > Can you describe the problem you are encountering in more detail? (Are you > > > actually unable to perform a search with the pages at and > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/search.cgi > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/subjects/search-subjects.cgi, or > > > .... ? In that case: what browser are you using?) > > > > > > > I was using Lynx 2.7. With that, I didn't get the form. Using Netscape > > 3.01, I am getting the form. My OS is Linux 2.0.30. > > > > Hope this info helps you in tracj\king down the problem. > > > > tia, > > > > sachin > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > Sachin Garg Phone: +91-80-5584271/143/982 > > MTS Extn: 303 > > C-DAC, Fax: (080) 5584893 > > Ramanshree Plaza, > > 2/1, Brunton Road, > > BANGALORE 560 025 > > INDIA E-mail: sachin@cdacb.ernet.in > > ********************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************** Sachin Garg Phone: +91-80-5584271/143/982 MTS Extn: 303 C-DAC, Fax: (080) 5584893 Ramanshree Plaza, 2/1, Brunton Road, BANGALORE 560 025 INDIA E-mail: sachin@cdacb.ernet.in ********************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA31097 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:47:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA14608; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:47:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id AAA17914; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:46:15 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id AAA45014 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:45:03 -0700 Received: from mail.tropical.co.mz (root@[208.153.64.131]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id AAA08251 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 00:44:59 -0700 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by mail.tropical.co.mz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA04989; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:45:31 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:45:31 +0200 (SAT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: root of all evil To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mass mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN you know somethin, ye phukin assole? maybe i'm just gonna teach ye a lesson! DarkTiger On 24 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >> "JRL" == Joe Random Luser thought she > >> needed to say: > JRL> On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Helle wrote: > [look, she cannot quote...] > JRL> well, it seems there is a person who wants to help, > > ... on the wrong list ... > > JRL> i'm using linux RedHat and Slackware with Sendmail, > > You said it -> SENDMAIL, not pine. > > JRL> and i'm asking this in SYSADMIN mode. hehehe > > You're still not spelling braindead moron mode correctly. Sheeesh, it > must really suck to be you. > > JRL> i just want to send a mail message to all my users without > JRL> having to right each one of them! > > You've said that already. Now will you please Read Gur Shpxvat Manual > (man sendmail) and stop mailing to this list? > > -- > Robin S. Socha M.A. > CEO German Web Force > i hate da phukin morons whos thinks they'r da ones on earth From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:03:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA01940 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:03:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA24695; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:03:26 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA21402; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:01:55 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA44822 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:00:47 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA01393 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:00:45 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:00:09 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:00:09 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: legal name change In-Reply-To: <34513380.E9A0EF08@concentric.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Susan Marshall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Susan Marshall wrote: > I am interested in gathering information on changing my stepdaughters > last name to mine. > Can you please supply me with data on how to proceed? Sounds like you need to contact a....gulp...lawyer. I don't think changing her name in the .pinerc file is considered "legal". -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA01991 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:08:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA24766; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:08:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA21509; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:07:10 -0700 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA29650 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:05:23 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA14779 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:05:20 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:04:47 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:04:47 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mass mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: root of all evil , "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN May I respectfully request that this discussion be taken "off-line". Thank you On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, root of all evil wrote: > you know somethin, > ye phukin assole? > maybe i'm just gonna teach ye a lesson! > > > DarkTiger > > On 24 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > > > >> "JRL" == Joe Random Luser thought she > > >> needed to say: > > JRL> On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Helle wrote: > > [look, she cannot quote...] > > JRL> well, it seems there is a person who wants to help, > > > > ... on the wrong list ... > > > > JRL> i'm using linux RedHat and Slackware with Sendmail, > > > > You said it -> SENDMAIL, not pine. > > > > JRL> and i'm asking this in SYSADMIN mode. hehehe > > > > You're still not spelling braindead moron mode correctly. Sheeesh, it > > must really suck to be you. > > > > JRL> i just want to send a mail message to all my users without > > JRL> having to right each one of them! > > > > You've said that already. Now will you please Read Gur Shpxvat Manual > > (man sendmail) and stop mailing to this list? > > > > -- > > Robin S. Socha M.A. > > CEO German Web Force > > > > i hate da phukin morons whos thinks they'r da ones on earth > -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 06:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA02449 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 06:01:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA18330; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 06:01:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA22186; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:59:51 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA30878 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:58:44 -0700 Received: from mail.tropical.co.mz (root@[208.153.64.131]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA03732 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 05:58:39 -0700 Received: from Dark.tropical.co.mz (ppp10.tropical.co.mz [208.153.64.150]) by mail.tropical.co.mz (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA05649; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:58:56 +0200 Message-Id: <199710251258.OAA05649@mail.tropical.co.mz> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:01:21 +0200 Reply-To: asilva@mail.tropical.co.mz Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Alexandre Silva" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mass mail In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Edward M Greshko , pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You are right, i'm sorry for all trouble, seems that i shouldn bother with this dick head. sorry again! Alexandre Silva a.k.a DarkTiger -- Dark Tiger Please, if you are using PGP, use it to send message. Here is my Public Key: -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.3i mQCNAzM1bsUAAAEEAPAMzFh82z1BxB494GPoXY5zGNs2NpMFHdSPRPnTzZ9mJbMn KEUwnyZ2bPDRZXmjsKBH/cFQD/bGRNz1Os3ix2FnQywHMdjHCE/L5lpTwIf4H/Rh ULRuwclOm6ki2hdm1i3N4zMUU1zXBM//SEMfibLj/mGvIlw8vp9tGfx3PhCBAAUR tBtEYXJrVGlnZXIgPG1lQG5vdG1lLnVlbS5tej6JAJUDBRAzNW7Gn20Z/Hc+EIEB AQQUBACZLSmgHwmrQ2WTJts137P/rkw3H6a4rjEN16EB6p7BUqutBEwmPZt89mjC 1LP+Zr9+Vv0hM16zuv+94WpIMJ1B0Clomnf8MixJx0VHra02euKP3ztqySVf+/3/ 3KXFu5IYeTu6QglB4em587qWoTy/7ydVrpfW1hnuXPcAL073ow== =9jw5 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA02925 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA19108; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:20:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA23658; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:17:31 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA33490 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:16:10 -0700 Received: from leofric.coventry.ac.uk (rrakkar@leofric.coventry.ac.uk [193.61.107.33]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA16194 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:16:08 -0700 Received: (from rrakkar@localhost) by leofric.coventry.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.6.11) id PAA13944; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:16:05 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:16:05 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: RAV To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: QUERY In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: rrakkar@leofric X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 24 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >> RAVINDERJEET KAUR RAKKAR writes: > > RKR> PLEASE COULD YOU TELL ME WHAT "AN OBSOLETE RELEASE OF PINE" > RKR> MEANS. > > It means it is out of date. You should get a newer one. > > RKR> I AM NOT VERY LITERATE IN THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE. COULD YOU TELL > RKR> ME IF THERE IS AN E-MAIL DIRECTORY AS I AM RECIEVING E-MEILS > RKR> FROM PEOPLE I DO NOT KNOW. > > Yes. This phenomenon is called UCE (unsolicited commercial email) or > simply spam. If you find this really troublesome, you might want to > talk to you system administrator to have him take appropriate > measures. > The mail I have been recieving isn't actually commercial etc. it is from a guy at the university I am attending and is quite freaky, I have asked him how he got my address and username, and he won't give me a straight answer, please help! > RKR> I ALSO NEED TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY POSSIBILITY OF ME CHANGING MY > RKR> CURRENT USER NAME. > > Yes. You have to talk to your sys admin, again. If that's what you > mean. The name that appears in your messages can be changed if you > goto M(ain) S(etup) C(onfig) and ... well - change it :-) > Thankyou very much Robin, you are the only one who has helped me with this matter which was of considerable importance to me, I have successfully managed to change my user name (I think), > BTW, all caps are considered SHOUTING, you know ;-) > > Cheers, > I am so sorry, I didn't mean to offend you or anyone for that matter, I honestly didn't know that CAPS meant shouting, > Best wishes and many thanks (that sounds abit like a christmas card ending doesn't it?) from Rav. Robin > > -- > Robin S. Socha M.A. > Political Science Dept., Bonn University > On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" > ... so I got myself Linux. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA02957 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:23:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA19146; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:23:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA07364; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:21:05 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA41856 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:19:43 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id HAA16363 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 07:19:41 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 25 Oct 97 16:19:25 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id OAA22356; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:51:40 +0200 Message-Id: <199710251251.OAA22356@sushi.uni-bonn.de> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:51:40 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mass mail In-Reply-To: Edward M Greshko's message of "Sat, 25 Oct 1997 20:04:47 +0800 (GMT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Face: &WMDIKMl#6=&B#c%G<(2x8CKd@G^\]HJ2Hot][?IxWzO.G1'6dvF?57ny9>~ Lines: 17 >> "EMG" == Edward M Greshko writes: EMG> May I respectfully request that this discussion be taken EMG> "off-line". Thank you May I again suggest that all messages a) concerning sendmail or other MTAs, and b) sent by root be cancelled? If this is to be a forum for serious discussion of *Pine*-related problems, a) results in b). Have a nice weekend, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University The sticker on the side of the box said "Supported Platforms: Windows 95, Windows NT 4.0, or better", so clearly Linux was a supported platform. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:05:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03161 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:05:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA19566; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:04:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA25460; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:01:50 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA51502 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:00:30 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA13370 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:00:28 -0700 Received: from edspc.sngcdc.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:59:55 +0800 Message-Id: <19971025225947egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:59:56 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ed Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mass mail Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: r.socha@franck.pc.uni-koeln.de X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > May I again suggest that all messages a) concerning sendmail or other > MTAs, and b) sent by root be cancelled? If this is to be a forum for > serious discussion of *Pine*-related problems, a) results in b). Yes, you may. If I were running the show at least b would have been done. It takes more effort to do a. > Have a nice weekend, The PSI is only 81 here in Singapore. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGP-Key-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:13:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03264 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:13:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26792; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:13:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA09327; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:11:06 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA15120 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:09:59 -0700 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA13745 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:09:57 -0700 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 25 Oct 97 17:09:42 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA23123; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:28:47 +0200 Message-Id: Date: 25 Oct 1997 14:28:40 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: QUERY In-Reply-To: RAV's message of "Sat, 25 Oct 1997 15:16:05 +0100 (BST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: RAV X-Cc: "Robin S. Socha" , Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Face: &WMDIKMl#6=&B#c%G<(2x8CKd@G^\]HJ2Hot][?IxWzO.G1'6dvF?57ny9>~> "R" == RAV writes: R> On 24 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> >> RAVINDERJEET KAUR RAKKAR writes: [unsolicited email] R> from a guy at the university I am attending and is quite freaky, I R> have asked him how he got my address and username, and he won't R> give me a straight answer, please help! Talk to your sysadmin or forward his emails to the appropriate addresses (postmaster@..., abuse@... and so on). That should help. Demand that the person's account be voided. Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Linux was designed by computer nuts, for computer nuts. Everyone else is just along for the ride. (Eugene O'Neil) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA03334 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26920; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:27:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA09767; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:24:23 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA29648 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:23:17 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA18963 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 08:23:14 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:22:11 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:22:10 +0800 (GMT) Reply-To: Edward M Greshko Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: QUERY In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: RAV X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, RAV wrote: > The mail I have been recieving isn't actually commercial etc. it is > from a guy at the university I am attending and is quite freaky, I have > asked him how he got my address and username, and he won't give me a > straight answer, please help! Well, there isn't too much we can do about that. It is a "local" issue. > > RKR> I ALSO NEED TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY POSSIBILITY OF ME CHANGING MY > > RKR> CURRENT USER NAME. > > > > Yes. You have to talk to your sys admin, again. If that's what you > > mean. The name that appears in your messages can be changed if you > > goto M(ain) S(etup) C(onfig) and ... well - change it :-) > Thank you very much Robin, you are the only one who has helped me with > this matter which was of considerable importance to me, I have > successfully managed to change my user name (I think), Yes, Robin can be helpful as long as his cat doesn't vomit on his keyboard. :-) :-) You have not managed to change your "user name". You have only changed your "Personal Name". Your username (the name your system knows you as) is still "rrakkar". To change that you will have to talk to your sys admin. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:15:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA03815 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA27497; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:15:29 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA11604; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:12:44 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA14806 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:11:34 -0700 Received: from kanin.arnes.si (kanin.arnes.si [193.2.1.66]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA16333 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:11:33 -0700 Received: from razor.arnes.si by kanin.arnes.si with SMTP using DNS (PP) id <21228-0@kanin.arnes.si>; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:11:19 +0200 Received: from Alpha (ssdipola@ppp13-ms2.arnes.si [193.2.30.113]) by razor.arnes.si (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA12194 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:10:49 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:12:26 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Bcc? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@Alpha X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! How can you send a mail with Bcc??? Bye. P.S.: Where could I download PGP for Linux? ////// ( o o ) /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ | From: Iztok Polanic | | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | | WWW: http://www2.arnes.si/~ssdipola | \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA03984 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA27725; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:36:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA12156; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:32:05 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA33330 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:30:56 -0700 Received: from kanin.arnes.si (kanin.arnes.si [193.2.1.66]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA21771 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:30:54 -0700 Received: from razor.arnes.si by kanin.arnes.si with SMTP using DNS (PP) id <22179-0@kanin.arnes.si>; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:30:29 +0200 Received: from Alpha (ssdipola@ppp13-ms2.arnes.si [193.2.30.113]) by razor.arnes.si (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA15253 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:29:59 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 18:31:37 +0200 (MET DST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Bcc? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@Alpha X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! What was i doing!!! :( My english..... *geezus* Is there any way how to see or type an e-mail in Bcc??? And where is it?? Bye. On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Iztok Polanic wrote: > Hello !!! > > How can you send a mail with Bcc??? > > > Bye. > > P.S.: Where could I download PGP for Linux? > > ////// > ( o o ) > /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ > | From: Iztok Polanic | > | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | > | WWW: http://www2.arnes.si/~ssdipola | > \-----------------------------------------/ > > > > ////// ( o o ) /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ | From: Iztok Polanic | | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | | WWW: http://www2.arnes.si/~ssdipola | \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:36:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA03991 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:36:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA20604; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:36:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA28694; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:33:56 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA33214 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:32:44 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.a.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA11873 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 09:32:42 -0700 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:31:11 +0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:31:11 +0800 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Edward M Greshko To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Bcc? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Iztok Polanic X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Iztok Polanic wrote: > How can you send a mail with Bcc??? First, type ctrl-R to reveal "Rich Headers". Then you should see the Bcc: line. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA05035 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:37:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA29184; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:37:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA16553; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:33:21 -0700 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA30194 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:31:58 -0700 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA17586 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 11:31:55 -0700 Received: from tacom by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA15055; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:33:02 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 14:35:33 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: No more e-mail please!!! In-Reply-To: <01bce0d5$80bda7a0$3a7ba3ce@markwebb> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@tacom X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 24 Oct 1997, Mark Webber wrote: >UW Robot, >I'm a bit confused why we got this e-mail. Is there some kind of mistake? >How did you get us on your list? We would really appreciate it if you could >remove our address from you list. >Good Day, >Mark Webber Spam paranoia. Shawn M. Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA05306 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA22401; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:12:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA19523; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:09:17 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA38282 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:07:58 -0700 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA29293 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 12:05:34 -0700 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA18776; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:34:47 -0230 (NDT) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.3) id QAA25201; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:34:47 -0230 (NDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Oct 1997 16:34:47 -0230 (NDT) Reply-To: Andrew Vardy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to search pine-info web site In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1136410531-877678610=:28788" Content-ID: X-To: Stefan Kramer X-Cc: Sachin Garg , Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1136410531-877678610=:28788 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: On Thu, 23 Oct 1997, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > Can you describe the problem you are encountering in more detail? (Are you > actually unable to perform a search with the pages at and You got it. > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/search.cgi Why don't I just include this page. As you can see, there is nothing on the page for searching. No search field. no nothing. > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/subjects/search-subjects.cgi, or > ... ? In that case: what browser are you using?) > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu > PINE Information Center http://www.washington.edu/pine/ > Computing & Communications University of Washington > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote: > > > From: Andrew Vardy > > Message-ID: > > To: Pine Discussion Forum > > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:29:54 -0230 (NDT) > > Subject: Re: How to search pine-info web site [was: Re: subscriber-post only > (was: Re: wealth)] > > > > > > Ahh, but I agree with the questioner. This doesn't work for me either. > > > > You go to this link, and then you see another link. Follow that link, and > > then it'll take you back to the page you just left, this one! > > > > There is one other link, but that heads off nowhere. > > > > On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Stefan Kramer wrote: > > > > > > > > On the page at http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ there are two > > > buttons: > > > > > > [search] the archived messages' full text > > > > > > and > > > > > > [search] the archived messages' subjects only > > > > > > that take you to search-input pages. Note: These are only for searching > > > the Pine-Info archives; the rest of the Pine Information Center has a > > > searchable index accessible via the [search] button on its homepage. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu > > > PINE Information Center http://www.washington.edu/pine/ > > > Computing & Communications University of Washington > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Sachin Garg wrote: > > > > > > > ... BTW, at the > > > > pine-info web site, how does one do a search. There isn't any search form > > > > that I could see. > > > > > > > > TIA, > > > > > > > > sachin > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************** > > > > Sachin Garg Phone: +91-80-5584271/143/982 > > > > MTS Extn: 303 > > > > C-DAC, Fax: (080) 5584893 > > > > Ramanshree Plaza, > > > > 2/1, Brunton Road, > > > > BANGALORE 560 025 > > > > INDIA E-mail: sachin@cdacb.ernet.in > > > > ********************************************************************* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --0-1136410531-877678610=:28788 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII; NAME="search.cgi" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: DQogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICBTZWFyY2ggUGluZSBEaXNjdXNzaW9u IEZvcnVtIEFyY2hpdmVzDQogICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAgICAg ICAgICAgICAgICANCiAgIFlvdSBjYW4gc2VhcmNoIHRoZSBtZXNzYWdlcyBm cm9tIHRoZSBQaW5lIGRpc2N1c3Npb24gZm9ydW0gYXJjaGl2ZXMgb2YNCiAg IHRoZSBhdmFpbGFibGUgbW9udGhzIGZvciBvY2N1cnJlbmNlcyBvZiBvbmUg b3IgbW9yZSBrZXl3b3Jkcy4gKFlvdSBjYW4NCiAgIHNlYXJjaCBmb3IgcGhy YXNlcyAtIHdvcmRzIHNlcGFyYXRlZCBieSBzcGFjZXMgLSBidXQgdGhleSB3 aWxsIG9ubHkgYmUNCiAgIGZvdW5kIGlmIHRoZXkgYXJlIG5vdCBzcGxpdCBi eSBhIGxpbmVicmVhay4pDQogICANCiAgIFlvdSBjYW4gbmFycm93IHlvdXIg c2VhcmNoIGJ5IGVudGVyaW5nIHNldmVyYWwgd29yZHMgc2VwYXJhdGVkIGJ5 IGENCiAgIHNlbWljb2xvbiwgd2hpY2ggaW1wbGllcyBhIEJvb2xlYW4gQU5E LiBZb3UgY2FuIGJyb2FkZW4geW91ciBzZWFyY2ggYnkNCiAgIGVudGVyaW5n IHNldmVyYWwgd29yZHMgc2VwYXJhdGVkIGJ5IGEgY29tbWEsIHdoaWNoIGlt cGxpZXMgYSBCb29sZWFuDQogICBPUi4NCiAgIA0KICAgU3Vic3RyaW5ncyBv ZiB3b3JkcyB3aWxsIGFsc28gYmUgbWF0Y2hlZCAtIGEgc2VhcmNoIGZvciBz ZXJ2LCBmb3INCiAgIGV4YW1wbGUsIHdpbGwgZmluZCBhbGwgbWVzc2FnZXMg Y29udGFpbmluZyBzZXJ2aWNlLCBkaXNzZXJ2aWNlLA0KICAgc2VydmVyLCBz ZXJ2ZXJzLCBhbmQgc28gZm9ydGguDQogICANCiAgIFNlYXJjaGVzIGFyZSBj YXNlLWluc2Vuc2l0aXZlLiAoVGV4dCBzdHJpbmdzIG92ZXIgNjQgY2hhcmFj dGVycyBpbg0KICAgbGVuZ3RoIGFyZSBub3QgaW5kZXhlZC4pDQogICANCiAg IFRoaXMgZnVsbC10ZXh0IGluZGV4IGluY2x1ZGVzIG51bWJlcnMgdG9vLCBz byB5b3UgY2FuIHBlcmZvcm0gc2VhcmNoZXMNCiAgIHN1Y2ggYXM6DQogICAg ICogWC40MDAsWDQwMA0KICAgICAqIElNQVA0O0NvbW11bmljYXRpb25zIFdl ZWsNCiAgICAgKiBTb2xhcmlzIDIuNA0KICAgICAgIA0KICAgVGhlIGluZGV4 aW5nL3NlYXJjaGluZyBvZiB0aGVzZSBtZXNzYWdlIGFyY2hpdmVzIHV0aWxp emVzIEdsaW1wc2UNCg== --0-1136410531-877678610=:28788-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA09669 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:05:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA29299; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:04:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id WAA09730; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:03:36 -0700 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id WAA49652 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:02:06 -0700 Received: from x11.boston.juno.com (x11.boston.juno.com [205.231.100.26]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id WAA21952 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 22:02:04 -0700 Received: (from awesome-dave1@juno.com) by x11.boston.juno.com (queuemail) id BTR29506; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 01:01:45 EDT Message-Id: <19971026.005911.11886.0.awesome-dave1@juno.com> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 00:59:04 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: awesome-dave1@juno.com To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Virus Hoax. X-To: ccourt@discover.wright.edu X-Cc: jhensley@wright.edu, s016mdb@discover.wright.edu, callmemarc@aol.com, s003ges@discover.wright.edu, pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 0,2-3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, Depending on how, I either passed on a received message, or it was delivered right to you, in the case of Pine. The virus Penpal Greetings is a hoax, as is aol4free. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:22:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA10630 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:22:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA07280; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:22:10 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id XAA12033; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:20:45 -0700 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id XAA46268 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:19:43 -0700 Received: from linux.ustc.edu.cn ([210.72.12.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id XAA27960 for ; Sat, 25 Oct 1997 23:19:37 -0700 Received: from hpe25.nic.ustc.edu.cn (hpe25.nic.ustc.edu.cn [202.38.64.1]) by linux.ustc.edu.cn (8.8.7/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA32696 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 14:20:55 +0800 Received: from linux by hpe25.nic.ustc.edu.cn with SMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id OAA26833; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 14:20:49 +0800 Message-Id: <3452E146.4E2749D4@ustc.edu.cn> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 14:20:54 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Zhang huajie To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Internal error with gcc 2.7.2.2 when compiling pine 3.96 in Linux MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: james@ustc.edu.cn X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am tring to compile pine 3.95 & pine 3.96 with gcc 2.7.2.2 in Slackware 3.3. When the gcc are compiling pine/mailindx.c, it said: cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 6 make: ***[mailindx.o] error 1 Can anyone tell why? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:24:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA13394 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA02907; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:24:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA16414; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:21:04 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA16426 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:20:01 -0800 Received: from elf.ecitele.com (sprite1.ecitele.com [147.234.56.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id CAA01632 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:19:48 -0800 Received: from vega (vega.ecitele.com [147.234.19.70]) by elf.ecitele.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id MAA18119 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:17:46 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:17:58 +0200 (IST) Reply-To: Yossi Itzkovich Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yossi Itzkovich To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: A very slow expunging MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: iyossi@vega X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, Sometimes when I tell Pine to eXpunge, I get the "*" in the left corner of the window for a long time (20sec,30sec and even more). Even for a one file expunging. I checked the cpu load and it is almost 0 ! Is it a Pine problem or a system one ? Is there a way to tell Pine to expunge in the background, so I can continue working meanwhile expunging ? Thanks, Yossi Itzkovich Israel From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:26:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA13409 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:26:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA09882; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:26:46 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA02364; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:24:34 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA34546 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:23:02 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id CAA08786 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 02:22:59 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 26 Oct 97 12:22:43 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id MAA29377; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:19:29 +0300 Message-Id: Date: 26 Oct 1997 12:19:29 +0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: FYI: L. Wirzenius's "much mail" page Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi there, I just came across this essay by the esteemed Lars Wirzenius and found it interesting with respect to pine. I thought I'd put this to discussion in this forum since I find pine definitly *not* capable of dealing with large amounts of email. I'm talking 500+ mails a day. Whenever I thought pine would do the job, I marked the paragraph with a +, when I thought it didn't, with a - (or -- when pine just plainly sucked). I've marked my comments with ** If you think this mail sucks - no biggie, just drop dead. Actually, I'd rather hear some constructive criticism, because there hasn't been much input from the list afaics, except for some creeps whining for better header munging support. So here it goes... Have a nice Sunday all, Robin _________________________________________________________________ Lars Wirzenius, last modified 19 October, 1997. Some notes about handling large amounts of e-mail I used to get a lot of e-mail. At one point, I got around 650 e-mail messages per day, from various high and low volume mailing lists, or directly from people. I've since cut down my e-mail intake to less than a hundred per day, but I think I have some insight on what is needed for dealing with large amounts of e-mail. Automatic filtering -- When the e-mail comes via many lists, it is imperative that there is a way to automatically filter e-mail to different folders, so that lists can be separate, and so that it is easier to do important lists first. -- Filtering does not have to be based only on the list, so the criteria should be flexible enough to allow other sorts of filtering as well. At least, one should be able to filter based on any header and the presence or absence of a string in that header. ** procmail is ok, but not available on some systems. XFmail's stuff ** is a good example how to make filtering user-friendly. -- The mailer must be able to show which folders have new messages, and preferably how many. ** I would have added a couple more minuses if I had the place. Pine's ** behaviour here is totally braindead - and tabbing is *not* what I ** want when reading a hv-list. Proper threading - When viewing a long discussion, it helps understanding it immensely if the messages are shown in a logical order: a reply is shown immediately after the message it is a reply to. Merely sorting messages by subject and date is not good enough. ** Amen - Most mail user agents add an In-Reply-To or References header when replying to a message, and add the Message-ID of the replied-to message to that header. This can be used to construct a tree of the discussion, with replies being children of the message they are replies to. ** mutt does a good job here Many inboxes + The mailer should be able to fetch mail from several locations: a traditional spool file or from POP or IMAP mailboxes. All at the same time, and without getting confused even if they may contain the same messages. Form letters - Many people will ask identical questions, and the mailer should provide some support for using form letters. The easier, the better. ** Have I mentioned Gnus today, yet? However, I don't see form letters ** as a vital point - except that Gnus' junk.el _really_ kicks ass. Different sender addresses, signatures, etc - One often needs to have slightly different personalities in different contexts, and the headers and signatures of the letters should reflect this. For example, one might want to use a private address for personal mail (I use liw@iki.fi) than for business mail (liw@cs.hut.fi), even if the mail is actually processed at the same place. ** mutt, Gnus... Easy to cut away extra addresses when replying + A common problem with mailing lists is that their messages collect large lists of Cc's. When person A sends a message, it lists only the list as a receiver. When B responds, his mailer adds A to the Cc list. When C replies to B's message, his mailer adds B. And so on. + The mailer should make it easy to reply to messages on lists so that only the list is given as a receiver. (It should also be possible to keep the other addresses, of course.) Good MIME support MIME is common enough that every mailer must support it, and it's so obviously a Good Thing that it should be supported well. -+ The mailer should do its utmost to show any content type, including binary stuff. If nothing else, the mailer should show the printable parts of an unknown binary type (perhaps at request). Many bad mailers will put a bogus content type, but a good mailer will allow the receiver to process the mail anyway. ** better MIME support is under way (or so I've heard ;-)), but ** currently pine depends too much on hacking the mailcap. Especially ** html crap isn't handled well. - Supports for attachments (receiving and sending), various encodings, and so on, are essential. ** With Gnus, I can select several kinds of encoding types. This is ** certainly an advantage Address completion Most mail user agents have some kind of alias feature, but that is not good enough. When you're having a large correspondence, it is impossible to define an alias for every person you ever discuss anything with. + Instead, the systems should keep track of all addresses in all messages and provide a way to search them. This works much better than aliases. ** pine's address book is pretty good. bbdb is better, of course, ** since it will let me search _and_ mark recipients by regexps. Aliases good for things that are needed often, but they break when there are too many of them, or when you use them rarely enough that you forget them. Automatic expansion of aliases and local addresses + To prevent mistakes, the user interface for using aliases (if they are implemented at all) must expand the aliases automatically. This will make it much harder to use an alias by mistake. - Also, if an address is local, the system should expand it to show the full name of the local user, if possible. This also prevents mistakes. Fast - When processing lots of mails, the mailer had better be fast. Even small delays cumulate to large irritation. Large amounts of mail will mean large folders, but that is no excuse for using much time to process them. ** mutt (in my experience, which is Intel Linux and Alpha Linux only) ** is faster. Pine tends to get _really_ slow when the inboxes get ** quite large. In fact, it took pine about 70% of the time to open a ** mailbox that Gnus needed to open, sort, score, kill, wash and ** thread the same mailbox. Many folders - There will be a need to save messages in various folders for archival. To keep things manageable, the folders have to be hierarchical, since a one-level structure breaks when there are many folders. There will be many. ** Ok, I can open several folder collections, but (and this goes along ** with pine's lack of threading) this is not very "intuitive". My ** Gnus message tree is 100x easier to scan than the kluge I had with ** pine.[1] + It must be easy to select a different folder to view, and to copy and move messages between folders, one by one or en masse. It must be easy to create, delete, rename and move folders. Archiving, expiration +- Moving messages one by one to archives is too much work for many messages. For example, when following an important mailing list, it may be necessary to archive all messages to it. The mailer should support this in some suitable way, e.g., by providing an `archive' button that move the messages from the folder with new messages for the list to its archive folder, or by making it easy to keep the old message in the same folder (but still keeping it easy to find the new stuff). ** Pine's archiving is ok, but an "archive now" function would be ** neat. Did I ever mention that lack of macros sucks? -- At the same time, some lists do not require eternal archiving, so it is necessary to provide some automatic expiration of archived messages. The period of expiration needs to be settable for each archive separately, and it must not apply to all saved messages. ** Ok, here comes one of Gnus' strongest points: it expires mail and ** news alike, and in an intelligent manner. -- The archival and expiration should also be rule based, so that only messages matching some particular rules are archived or expired. For example, one might want to archive only messages whose subject contains "ANNOUNCE" or "IMPORTANT", or expire only messages that don't have such subjects. ** GnusGnusGnusGnus Searching -- The archives should be searchable: full text searches, and for certain authors, subjects, dates, and other such criteria. One often needs to refer to old correspondence, but finding it in even a modest archive will be difficult, regardless of how it is organized, unless there is some way to search it in addition to just browsing it. ** XEmacs -> Gnus -> igrep -> >KeWL< Who said what? Did I say that? - The mailer must keep copies of all messages sent, and save replies with the replied-to messages. It must be able to find messages written by a certain author, and find messages that are replies to a given message, or the message that a given message is a reply to, whether in the same folder or not. ** Pine's behaviour is ok, except for the latter part of this paragraph. Many concurrent operations + It must be possible to start several concurrent drafts at once, and to suspend and continue writing on the drafts at will. And, while writing, one must still be able to view other messages, move messages around and delete them (including the one being replied to), and otherwise function normally. - It must be possible to view several messages at once, and have several folders open at once. ** Running multiple copies of Pine is just not it, is it? Compatibility + The larger the correspondence, the larger the diversity of the software the correspondents use. The mailer must spend much effort in being compatible with all of them. ** I don't quite get this, but I don't give a **** about being ** compatible with Microsuck. Pine handles u*ix mail ok, period. + The mailer should not store messages in special formats, unless absolutely necessary. It should use folder and message file formats that are compatible with other mailers, in case it is ever necessary to switch to another mailer. Security In the global Interent, security is everyone's problem. Eavesdropping, forgeries, mailbombs, and such are commonplace. The mailer must do its best not to compromise security, e.g., by using APOP instead of normal POP, when the server supports APOP. -- The mailer should provide support for encryption (at least using PGP, but other formats as well, if possible). The support should be as comfortable as possible: most of the time the user should just be able to ignore it. E.g., the mailer should keep the PGP password in memory (for some specified time), instead of asking the user to re-type it all the time. Also, the mailer should have an option to always encrypt messages, if the receiver's PGP key is known (but this should be overrideable). ** I'm getting the impression Mr. Wirzenius is using an Emacs mailer ** himself. Now, I've been deploring pine's pgp-integration for some ** time, but I can see why it isn't done. It still sucks. Spam filtering -- The mailer should support spam filtering, some way or another. ** We've had this up there somewhere, but the point is still valid. Easy list subscription and unsubscription - People active on the Internet will need to subscribe and unsubscribe to mailing lists all the time, and the mailer should make this easy. For example, when subscribing, it should offer to create a new folder and a filtering rule to place everything from that mailing list to the new folder. - On the other hand, one stays subscribed to some lists for a very long time, and it is easy to lose the unsubscription messages during that time. The mailer should make it easy to remember how to unsubscribe. Bounce processing +- The mailer should be able to process most common types of bounce messages (and DSN messages), and track which messages have not reached their destination. It should make it easy to re-send (possibly after editing the addresses), and to mark the offending addresses as non-deliverable in the address database. ** while Pine handles bounces ok, it does not do the database ** stuff. Needless to say that Gnus does, I gues... Priority alarms, and other biffy features -- The mailer should be able to recognize (some) important messages, and raise an alarm when such a message arrives. The user must be able to configure what is considered important and what is not, using the filtering mechanism. -- The mailer should also be able to recognize unimportant new messages, and not signal them in intrusive ways (for example, by not beeping when such mail arrives, even if it changes the icon to show there is new mail). ** Score files. Pine needs score files and kill files. Badly. Footnotes: [1] Here's what it looks like: [ Gnus -- 2724 ] [ Privat -- 0 ] * 0: nnml+robin:robin [ Mailing Lists -- 0 ] [Linux Mailing Lists -- 0 ] * 0: Bonn LUG 0: Koeln LUG 0: Manchester LUG [ News -- 22 ]... -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Customer: "I'm using Windows 95" Tech Support: "Yes..." Customer: "My computer isn't working now" Tech Support: "Yes, you said that" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 03:03:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA14013 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 03:03:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA03300; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 03:03:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA02821; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 03:01:31 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA38222 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 03:00:09 -0800 Received: from shivax.cac.washington.edu (shivax.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.4]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA02342 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 03:00:07 -0800 Received: (from skramer@localhost) by shivax.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) id DAA00492 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 03:00:05 -0800 Message-Id: <199710261100.DAA00492@shivax.cac.washington.edu> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 03:00:05 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: pine-robot@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT PINE X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is being sent to this mailing list weekly in order to aid readers in finding information about Pine. Before sending questions to the mailing list, please consult these resources: The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive help. Additional information, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, where to obtain the Pine software, what tools are available to perform tasks that Pine itself does not, and more, can be accessed: - In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ - Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. - The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] The messages from this mailing list are archived. 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If you have a question about Pine, chances are it has been asked before and you can find the answer either through the searchable index of past messages, or among the "Questions & Answers" at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt If you need personal assistance with using or configuring Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of YOUR Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer, ... -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using, or planning on using, Pine. Because system functions and configuration can vary from site to site, they are best qualified to assist you. (Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users at other organizations.) Sun Oct 26 03:00:05 PST 1997 ----------------------------------- Pine development and support team University of Washington Computing & Communications ----------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:21:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA16150 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:21:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA11996; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:21:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA05608; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:19:46 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA52186 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:19:12 -0800 Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [204.62.130.91]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id FAA08248 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:19:10 -0800 Received: (qmail 2196 invoked by uid 500); 26 Oct 1997 13:22:41 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:22:40 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Dean Gaudet Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dean Gaudet To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FYI: L. Wirzenius's "much mail" page In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Dean Gaudet X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I read well over 300 messages a day with pine and a collection of scripts just fine. But I'm of the "vi" school of thought, meaning I am completely content augmenting and expanding my system through a series of external programs. It would appear you're from the emacs school of thought. So this is a somewhat religious argument ... but anyhow. It's also worth noting that I'm in a position where I can set up an always connected server exactly as I like it. I could do this with a periodically connected server (or desktop) as well, it's not that much different. On 26 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > Automatic filtering > -- When the e-mail comes via many lists, it is imperative that there is a > way to automatically filter e-mail to different folders, so that lists > can be separate, and so that it is easier to do important lists first. Use procmail filtering, or use subaddressing via qmail or procmail (I choose the latter, it's far more reliable). > Proper threading > - When viewing a long discussion, it helps understanding it immensely > if the messages are shown in a logical order: a reply is shown > immediately after the message it is a reply to. Merely sorting > messages by subject and date is not good enough. > ** Amen Huh? It works fine for me. "Proper threading" depends on mailer features that not all mailers use -- so the messages just simply do not have the data in them to be threaded. I found when I wrote a threading mail to news gateway that the threads (as seen by trn) were pretty useless and pine's "ordered subject" sorting did a better job. > Form letters > - Many people will ask identical questions, and the mailer should > provide some support for using form letters. The easier, the better. > ** Have I mentioned Gnus today, yet? However, I don't see form letters > ** as a vital point - except that Gnus' junk.el _really_ kicks ass. ^rform > Different sender addresses, signatures, etc > - One often needs to have slightly different personalities in different > contexts, and the headers and signatures of the letters should reflect > this. For example, one might want to use a private address for personal > mail (I use liw@iki.fi) than for business mail (liw@cs.hut.fi), even if > the mail is actually processed at the same place. > ** mutt, Gnus... Yep I need this too, so I added it. See . IMHO signatures are overrated... even if I didn't put this url here you can probably derive my homepage from the From address. So any information I put into a signature is redundant. > Easy to cut away extra addresses when replying > + A common problem with mailing lists is that their messages collect > large lists of Cc's. When person A sends a message, it lists only > the list as a receiver. When B responds, his mailer adds A to the > Cc list. When C replies to B's message, his mailer adds B. And so > on. Reply-To: for mailing lists has received a bad rap for reasons I can't agree with. In particular I think folks who accidentally send sensitive private mail to the public Reply-To learn after one mistake. If they don't learn then they probably shouldn't be trusted with sensitive data in the first place ;) Pine deals with this excellently. > -+ The mailer should do its utmost to show any content type, including > binary stuff. If nothing else, the mailer should show the printable > parts of an unknown binary type (perhaps at request). Many bad > mailers will put a bogus content type, but a good mailer will allow > the receiver to process the mail anyway. Ok I agree with you here. Pine also has no way to override a display filter. For example I had a pgp display filter, however when PGP 5 came out and I hadn't had a chance to upgrade yet, and folks started sending PGP 5 signed messages I could not read them at all... because my display filter couldn't decode them. I just ended up disabling the filter until I could fix the situation. It would have been nice to be able to keep the filter but override it occasionally. > - There will be a need to save messages in various folders for > archival. To keep things manageable, the folders have to be > hierarchical, since a one-level structure breaks when there are > many folders. There will be many. > ** Ok, I can open several folder collections, but (and this goes along > ** with pine's lack of threading) this is not very "intuitive". My > ** Gnus message tree is 100x easier to scan than the kluge I had with > ** pine.[1] I have a very flat hierarchy, there is some depth, but it's mostly to build a tree of archives. All my incoming mail is automatically copied to an archive of the appropriate inbox. These archives are automatically rotated and compressed (and marked read-only so that pine can deal with them a lot more efficiently). In my experience I'll dig through archives about twice a week, and usually that's looking only at last week's mail which is easy to access. This method allows me to completely avoid making the decision of what I should keep -- I keep everything. Then my inboxes essentially become "todo" lists, and I rarely have to save messages elsewhere. > -- At the same time, some lists do not require eternal archiving, so > it is necessary to provide some automatic expiration of archived > messages. The period of expiration needs to be settable for each > archive separately, and it must not apply to all saved messages. $300 gets you at least 1Gb of high quality scsi disk. gzip -9 helps wonderfully. I doubt any human is really reading enough mail to fill 1Gb of disk with compressed archives. Why make the decisions? You never know when you'll want a particular message. I've dug things out a year and a half later, and thanked myself that I just keep everything. > Searching > -- The archives should be searchable: full text searches, and for certain > authors, subjects, dates, and other such criteria. One often needs to > refer to old correspondence, but finding it in even a modest archive > will be difficult, regardless of how it is organized, unless there is > some way to search it in addition to just browsing it. > ** XEmacs -> Gnus -> igrep -> >KeWL< On small archives, maybe. For something large the only solution is far more complicated, and should involve technology like glimpse. I occasionally long for this, but it's only once a month or so that I have to dig something out of long term compressed files. > Many concurrent operations > + It must be possible to start several concurrent drafts at once, > and to suspend and continue writing on the drafts at will. And, > while writing, one must still be able to view other messages, move > messages around and delete them (including the one being replied > to), and otherwise function normally. > - It must be possible to view several messages at once, and have several > folders open at once. > ** Running multiple copies of Pine is just not it, is it? Definately not. In fact I can't stand pine's behaviour when you accidentally start two of them. There are many operations that I used to perform in mh involving multiple message cross referencing when generating a reply which I find a real chore in pine. (Yes I switched from mh to pine.) > + The mailer should not store messages in special formats, unless > absolutely necessary. It should use folder and message file formats > that are compatible with other mailers, in case it is ever necessary > to switch to another mailer. I honestly believe that IMAP is the way of the future, and I consider mailers without IMAP to be worthless. For example, if your mail environment involves NFS then you must not care about your mail -- because NFS mail access is terribly unreliable. The above is meaningless with IMAP because you only care that your IMAP server is efficient -- you can change the client without changing the files. (qmail's Maildirs solve NFS problems nicely, but are not a replacement for IMAP.) > Security > In the global Interent, security is everyone's problem. Eavesdropping, > forgeries, mailbombs, and such are commonplace. The mailer must do its > best not to compromise security, e.g., by using APOP instead of normal > POP, when the server supports APOP. If you spend time looking at pine's code you'll probably conclude it has buffer overruns, some of which may be remotely exploitable. I'm not saying for certain there's an exploit, I'll just say it's something that worries me. > -- The mailer should provide support for encryption (at least using PGP, > but other formats as well, if possible). The support should be as > comfortable as possible: most of the time the user should just be able > to ignore it. E.g., the mailer should keep the PGP password in memory > (for some specified time), instead of asking the user to re-type it > all the time. Also, the mailer should have an option to always encrypt > messages, if the receiver's PGP key is known (but this should be > overrideable). You can do this with any of the numerous pine+pgp wrappers and the display filter and outgoing filter support. The outgoing filters are trivial to use, I just hit ^N or ^P to select one. My filters do avoid re-asking for the password, pine provides all the hooks necessary to only ask once. (I use something called PAPP, use hotbot or something to find it.) > Spam filtering > -- The mailer should support spam filtering, some way or another. > ** We've had this up there somewhere, but the point is still valid. procmail. > - People active on the Internet will need to subscribe and unsubscribe > to mailing lists all the time, and the mailer should make this easy. > For example, when subscribing, it should offer to create a new folder > and a filtering rule to place everything from that mailing list to the > new folder. I have a script "majorsub" which does all the magic required to subscribe me to a majordomo-style list, and set up the folder. Because I use subaddressing the "filter" is created implicitly and is never wrong. It is impossible to get a traditional (header based) mail filter right without seeing the first message from a mailing list. Your mailer can try to guess... but guessing is a bad scene in my books. Software shouldn't try to guess what's right. Even if it were to show you the filter and say "is this the filter I should use?" you probably won't know the answer until you've seen the first message. > - On the other hand, one stays subscribed to some lists for a very long > time, and it is easy to lose the unsubscription messages during that > time. The mailer should make it easy to remember how to unsubscribe. The first archive folder for each mailing list necessarily contains this message. > Bounce processing > +- The mailer should be able to process most common types of bounce > messages (and DSN messages), and track which messages have not reached > their destination. It should make it easy to re-send (possibly after > editing the addresses), and to mark the offending addresses as > non-deliverable in the address database. > ** while Pine handles bounces ok, it does not do the database > ** stuff. Needless to say that Gnus does, I gues... You get that many bounces that this is an issue? I get maybe a bounce a week, out of 250 messages I sent. > Priority alarms, and other biffy features > -- The mailer should be able to recognize (some) important messages, and > raise an alarm when such a message arrives. The user must be able to > configure what is considered important and what is not, using the > filtering mechanism. Use procmail to trigger some external program... I generally let other humans make the effort to tell me some other way when something is really important. If it's a machine that needs to tell me something is important, it does it via pager. i.e. you're not online 24 hours a day, or at least you shouldn't be ;) If it's important when you're logged in then it's important when you're in the washroom, or out eating lunch, so you better have an out-of-band signalling method ... Dean From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:43:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA17184 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:43:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA06706; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:43:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA23114; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:38:39 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA38304 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:38:01 -0800 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA13503 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:37:58 -0800 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA14321; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:07:52 -0330 (NST) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.3) id MAA32273; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:07:52 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:07:52 -0330 (NST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: procmailrc question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN By the way, thanks guys over the mailing lists-coping topic. Next thing is this. I seemed to find procmail, hardly aware as I was that it was there. It says it is version 2.80. Will that get me by? Probably have to do with it. On 22 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >> "EM" == Erik Mayer writes: > > EM> I need some info on configuring a .procmailrc file: > > man procmail | grep mailinglist > I tried 'man procmail' but that don't work. No man pages for a good few things. > -- > Robin S. Socha M.A. > Be warned that typing killall name may not have the desired effect on > non-Linux systems, especially when done by a privileged user. > (From the killall manual page) > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:02:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA17285 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA13719; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:02:53 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA08973; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:59:10 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA40150 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:58:41 -0800 Received: from cytanet.com.cy (platon.cytanet.com.cy [195.14.133.170]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA14349 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 07:58:39 -0800 Received: from ammo.cytanet.com.cy (ni-8-07.cytanet.com.cy [195.14.130.139]) by cytanet.com.cy (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA26428 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 17:59:45 +0200 (EET) Message-Id: <34536960.6B9B@cytanet.com.cy> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 18:01:36 +0200 Reply-To: ammo@cytanet.com.cy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael Pontikos To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: application/ms-tnef MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear sir, We have taken with E-mail one tender with type application/ms-tnef and Encoding base64 but when we try to open it the only thing we can see are the below: eJ8+Ig4PAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEkAYAoAEAAAEAAAAQAAAAAwAAMAIAAAAL AA8OAAAAAAIB/w8BAAAARQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAGFtbW9AY3l0YW5ldC5j b20uY3kAU01UUABhbW1vQGN5dGFuZXQuY29tLmN5AAAAAB4AAjABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgAD MAEAAAAUAAAAYW1tb0BjeXRhbmV0LmNvbS5jeQADABUMAQAAAAMA/g8GAAAAHgABMAEAAAAWAAAA J2FtbW9AY3l0YW5ldC5jb20uY3knAAAAAgELMAEAAAAZAAAAU01UUDpBTU1PQENZVEFORVQuQ09N LkNZAAAAAAMAADkAAAAACwBAOgEAAAAeAPZfAQAAABQAAABhbW1vQGN5dGFuZXQuY29tLmN5AAIB 918BAAAARQAAAAAAAACBKx+kvqMQGZ1uAN0BD1QCAAAAAGFtbW9AY3l0YW5ldC5jb20uY3kAU01U UABhbW1vQGN5dGFuZXQuY29tLmN5AAAAAAMA/V8BAAAAAwD/XwAAAAACAfYPAQAAAAQAAAAAAAAC IVUBBIABABAAAABSRTogaW5mb3JtYXRpb24AlwUBBYADAA4AAADNBwoAGAAIACYABQAFAC4BASCA AwAOAAAAzQcKABgACAAaACEABQA+AQEJg we have used all the types of fonts but we did not have any result. We will be very pleased if you can help us to read it. Thank you for your time Best regards Michael Pontikos From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:43:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA17519 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:43:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA14172; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:43:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA10741; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:41:16 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA44576 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:40:39 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA20941 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:40:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA01454 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:39:13 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:39:13 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FYI: L. Wirzenius's "much mail" page In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: "Robin S. Socha" >Date: 26 Oct 1997 12:19:29 +0300 >Automatic filtering >** procmail is ok, but not available on some systems. XFmail's stuff >** is a good example how to make filtering user-friendly. >** I would have added a couple more minuses if I had the place. Pine's >** behaviour here is totally braindead - and tabbing is *not* what I >** want when reading a hv-list. Since fine tools for filtering exist, it's not something I would like to see added to pine. I don't understand your comment about tabbing. >Proper threading >- When viewing a long discussion, it helps understanding it immensely > if the messages are shown in a logical order: a reply is shown > immediately after the message it is a reply to. Merely sorting > messages by subject and date is not good enough. >- Most mail user agents add an In-Reply-To or References header when > replying to a message, and add the Message-ID of the replied-to > message to that header. This can be used to construct a tree of the > discussion, with replies being children of the message they are > replies to. This is a feature that should be added to pine. Please bear in mind, however, that it won't result in proper threading, or an article tree. Linking an In-Reply-To to a Message-ID will help a little. We can have proper threading and an article tree in news, using trn for example, because many news messages contain Message-IDs for all earlier messages in the thread, especially the Message-ID that began the topic, to anchor the tree. Unfortunately, most message composers fail to retain these necessary earlier Message-IDs. Perhaps pine's behavior could be improved in this respect. >Good MIME support > MIME is common enough that every mailer must support it, and it's > so obviously a Good Thing that it should be supported well. >-+ The mailer should do its utmost to show any content type, including > binary stuff. If nothing else, the mailer should show the printable > parts of an unknown binary type (perhaps at request). Many bad > mailers will put a bogus content type, but a good mailer will allow > the receiver to process the mail anyway. >** better MIME support is under way (or so I've heard ;-)), but >** currently pine depends too much on hacking the mailcap. Especially >** html crap isn't handled well. >- Supports for attachments (receiving and sending), various encodings, > and so on, are essential. Yes, it will be lovely when we can pick and choose which attachments to include in reply, or if they are merely plain text, merely inserted into the body of the reply text. But, dammit, sending html-encoded messages is such an abuse of e-mail that I would rather pine continue to fail to support this, in the hopes that other products that generate this code for mail composing will wither and die. >- Also, if an address is local, the system should expand it to show > the full name of the local user, if possible. This also prevents > mistakes. Hm. Good suggestion. >Spam filtering >-- The mailer should support spam filtering, some way or another. >** We've had this up there somewhere, but the point is still valid. No. Use other filtering tools which do the job well. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:00:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA17653 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:00:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14392; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 09:00:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA26199; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:57:23 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA51966 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:57:01 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA14426 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 08:57:00 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA01640 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:55:59 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 10:55:59 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FYI: L. Wirzenius's "much mail" page In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From: Dean Gaudet >Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:22:40 -0800 (PST) >>Proper threading >>- When viewing a long discussion, it helps understanding it immensely >> if the messages are shown in a logical order: a reply is shown >> immediately after the message it is a reply to. Merely sorting >> messages by subject and date is not good enough. >Huh? It works fine for me. "Proper threading" depends on mailer features >that not all mailers use--so the messages just simply do not have the >data in them to be threaded. I found when I wrote a threading mail to >news gateway that the threads (as seen by trn) were pretty useless and >pine's "ordered subject" sorting did a better job. Did you convert In-Reply-To to Reference headers? How can "ordered subject" sorting do a better job? In-Reply-To sorting, where it is possible, should be the superior rule, then ordered subject. As it happens, trn will give you a choice: It allows messages to be ordered by date and subject, or, subthreads are arranged within the article tree in date order, based on the date of the anchoring message. There are 2 choices to read messages within the article tree, either read subthread after subthread, or read each first generation reply, followed by second generation replies. Without all those earlier Message-IDs retained, it is impossible to have a proper article or message tree. But, if In-Reply-To exists, there is no advantage to ignoring it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:03:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA18884 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:03:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA16770; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:03:07 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA04451; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:00:38 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA19010 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:00:03 -0800 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA23683 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 11:59:59 -0800 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA03107; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:29:58 -0330 (NST) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.3) id QAA27909; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:29:57 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:29:57 -0330 (NST) Reply-To: Andrew Vardy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: none In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 21 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >> "JL" == Jennifer Lay writes: > > JL> Why can I email some addresses and not others that were working > JL> fine earlier in the day? > > Because the world is an angry sandwich, that's why. YES, the world is an angry sandwich. > > Robin > > -- > Robin S. Socha M.A. > Sigh. I like to think it's just the Linux people who want to be on the > "leading edge" so bad they walk right off the precipice. (C.E. Groeschel) > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:09:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA16029 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:09:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA10046; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:09:52 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA04879; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:06:27 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA38370 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:05:48 -0800 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA26284 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:05:43 -0800 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA02811 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:35:42 -0330 (NST) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.3) id QAA28382; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:35:41 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 16:35:41 -0330 (NST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: newserver MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, Shawn Jeffries wrote: > > Anyone know a FREE (i.e. open, public, no money) news server that has > comp.mail.pine ? > > Please don't say 'Dejanews.com'. AFAIK, there's no way to connect to it > via NNTP. Well, how about we figure out a way to be able to read messages fast and quickly from Lynx and DN? Must be some way. Figure the Lynx people must have provided a way to download all messages on a page, so you may read off-line. Of course, then there's also the recurring ... **Bad HTML!! Use -trace to diagnose. ** Which DN evidently didn't want to fix. Yes, it was their mistake. But they wanted to keep it that way. > > Thanks a bunch, > > Shawn M. Jeffries > shawn_jeffries@vetri.com > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:18:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA19487 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:18:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA16939; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:18:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA19786; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:16:15 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA22994 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:15:50 -0800 Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [204.62.130.91]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA01439 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:15:47 -0800 Received: (qmail 13172 invoked by uid 500); 26 Oct 1997 20:19:36 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 12:19:36 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dean Gaudet To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FYI: L. Wirzenius's "much mail" page In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Adam H. Kerman wrote: > Did you convert In-Reply-To to Reference headers? Yes, where they existed. > How can "ordered subject" sorting do a better job? In-Reply-To sorting, where > it is possible, should be the superior rule, then ordered subject. If In-Reply-To exists on all messages then I agree with you. What's the algorithm you'll use for those it doesn't exist on? > Without all those earlier Message-IDs retained, it is impossible to have a > proper article or message tree. But, if In-Reply-To exists, there is no > advantage to ignoring it. Note that a filter could be written which keeps a tree of message-ids in a database based on in-reply-to, and from that generate a more complete reference list. But it's not perfect, mainly because in-reply-to isn't always there... and because of that I find orderedsubject far more reliable. Dean From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:13:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA22366 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA15688; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:13:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA26339; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:09:52 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA31934 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:09:26 -0800 Received: from mole (mole.slip.net [207.171.193.16]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id UAA27679 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:09:25 -0800 Received: from slip-3.slip.net [207.171.193.17] (batchman) by mole with smtp (Exim 1.73 #2) id 0xPgUS-0007EJ-00; Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:09:20 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Oct 1997 20:09:22 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: Shoeless in San Jose Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shoeless in San Jose To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FYI: L. Wirzenius's "much mail" page In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: batchman@slip-3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 26 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > Automatic filtering > -- When the e-mail comes via many lists, it is imperative that there is a > way to automatically filter e-mail to different folders, so that lists > can be separate, and so that it is easier to do important lists first. Yup. If Pine can read separate folders, why can't it separate incoming mail into those folders. Seems to me it's only doing half the job right now. Along the idea of doing important lists first, I would like to ge able to rearrange the folders so that the most important (or most active) could be placed first, but it would be left up to the user as to which folder went first, second, etc. The way it is now, you have to delete folders and recreate them in the new order. > -- Filtering does not have to be based only on the list, so the criteria > should be flexible enough to allow other sorts of filtering as well. > At least, one should be able to filter based on any header and the > presence or absence of a string in that header. It should be as flexible as procmail if it's going to be done at all: filtering on any header, or even on a keyword in the body of the message. > -- The mailer must be able to show which folders have new messages, and > preferably how many. I fully agree with this one. I do that now with a script at login, which is also available any time I'm at the prompt, but I think it would be nice to have the mail program show me this when I start it so I know where I need to go to read mail, and which folders have a *lot* of mail that needs to be taken care of. One final word on filtering, though. I'd like to see Pine include mail filtering since there's obviously a lot of interest in filtering out spam, separating mailing lists, etc., but it needs to be easy for the newbies to get set up. Otherwise, it's no better than installing a 'filter' script or installing procmail. On the other hand, I'd hate to see Pine get to be like some of today's programs. Some of them try to do everything but wash your dishes, and they end up being worthless for every task, not to mention crashing because they *are* trying to do it all. I'd rather keep Pine a fairly simple, straightforward mailing-reading program if adding lots of bells and whistles like filtering will just slow it down or cause a lot of problems. > Proper threading > - When viewing a long discussion, it helps understanding it immensely > if the messages are shown in a logical order: a reply is shown > immediately after the message it is a reply to. Merely sorting > messages by subject and date is not good enough. Sounds good, but I'd also like to be able to sort the mail in their folders differently from how I sort the newsgroup. The way it is now, I have to run Pine with a different .pinerc file to do that when reading newsgroups. > Good MIME support > ** currently pine depends too much on hacking the mailcap. Especially > ** html crap isn't handled well. "Adam H. Kerman" writes: > But, dammit, sending html-encoded messages is such an abuse of e-mail > that I would rather pine continue to fail to support this, in the > hopes that other products that generate this code for mail composing > will wither and die. I have to agree with Adam. I'd like to see the html-encoded messages disappear, but if they continue, then have Pine strip them off as an option in the Setup / Config so we don't have to see them if we don't want to. > Fast > - When processing lots of mails, the mailer had better be fast. Even > small delays cumulate to large irritation. Large amounts of mail > will mean large folders, but that is no excuse for using much time > to process them. > ** mutt (in my experience, which is Intel Linux and Alpha Linux only) > ** is faster. Pine tends to get _really_ slow when the inboxes get > ** quite large. In fact, it took pine about 70% of the time to open a > ** mailbox that Gnus needed to open, sort, score, kill, wash and > ** thread the same mailbox. It takes *way* too long to have it sort a newly-subscribed-to newsgroup. Fortunately, I don't get tons of e-mail so that's not a problem for me, but I can imagine that it *is* for some. > Archiving, expiration > ** Ok, here comes one of Gnus' strongest points: it expires mail and > ** news alike, and in an intelligent manner. > -- The archival and expiration should also be rule based, so that only > messages matching some particular rules are archived or expired. For > example, one might want to archive only messages whose subject > contains "ANNOUNCE" or "IMPORTANT", or expire only messages that don't > have such subjects. There are too many people who write in complaining about running out of disk space. I think there should be a way to have Pine archive / delete old mail. It should be set up to check for any mail in any folders that it older than a given time period. This, like other things, should be settable in the Setup / Config. > Easy list subscription and unsubscription > - People active on the Internet will need to subscribe and unsubscribe > to mailing lists all the time, and the mailer should make this easy. > For example, when subscribing, it should offer to create a new folder > and a filtering rule to place everything from that mailing list to the > new folder. This *would* be a nice feature, but I think making the process of creating a new folder should suffice. If filtering is added to Pine eventually, being able to add the new list to the filter *would* be a good thing to have. Then it could create a new folder automatically, or prompt the user to choose from the existing ones. > - On the other hand, one stays subscribed to some lists for a very long > time, and it is easy to lose the unsubscription messages during that > time. The mailer should make it easy to remember how to unsubscribe. This, too, would be a nice feature, but I think a simple *save* of the new subscriber info. should be appropriate. Besides, one can always mail to the list and ask how to unsubscribe...someone out there can help them out. I would, therefore, consider this another 'bell' or 'whistle' that I personally could live without. > Bounce processing > +- The mailer should be able to process most common types of bounce > messages (and DSN messages), and track which messages have not reached > their destination. It should make it easy to re-send (possibly after > editing the addresses), and to mark the offending addresses as > non-deliverable in the address database. Again, filtering would help this. > Priority alarms, and other biffy features > -- The mailer should be able to recognize (some) important messages, and > raise an alarm when such a message arrives. The user must be able to > configure what is considered important and what is not, using the > filtering mechanism. Excellent idea! Overall, I like Pine, especially its range of user-settable features. I think that's the number one feature that makes me use Pine over any other program. If I want to be able to set something a certain way, I usually can. On the other hand, if I'm a clueless newbie who just wants to be able to read mail, they can do that. The settings are there and, when they learn more about Pine (as I did from this mailing list), they can adjust things to suit their tastes. I would like to see Pine have *some* sort of filtering available, again with the option to use or not use it, and with the flexibility of procmail or Eudora Pro's filtering. However, I'd hate to see Pine get to be so 'busy' that it has more features (read problems) than are absolutely necessary to keep it a simple, yet reliable mail tool. Greg batchman@slip.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:31:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA28621 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:31:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA28045; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:31:34 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA10135; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:29:24 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA21050 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:26:45 -0800 Received: from leofric.coventry.ac.uk (rrakkar@leofric.coventry.ac.uk [193.61.107.33]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA18329 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:26:42 -0800 Received: (from rrakkar@localhost) by leofric.coventry.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.6.11) id MAA21585; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:26:09 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:26:09 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: RAV To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: QUERY In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Edward M Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: rrakkar@leofric X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Sat, 25 Oct 1997, RAV wrote: > > > The mail I have been recieving isn't actually commercial etc. it is > > from a guy at the university I am attending and is quite freaky, I have > > asked him how he got my address and username, and he won't give me a > > straight answer, please help! > > Well, there isn't too much we can do about that. It is a "local" issue. > > > > RKR> I ALSO NEED TO KNOW IF THERE IS ANY POSSIBILITY OF ME CHANGING MY > > > RKR> CURRENT USER NAME. > > > > > > Yes. You have to talk to your sys admin, again. If that's what you > > > mean. The name that appears in your messages can be changed if you > > > goto M(ain) S(etup) C(onfig) and ... well - change it :-) > > Thank you very much Robin, you are the only one who has helped me with > > this matter which was of considerable importance to me, I have > > successfully managed to change my user name (I think), > > Yes, Robin can be helpful as long as his cat doesn't vomit on his > keyboard. :-) :-) > what does that mean? > You have not managed to change your "user name". You have only changed > your "Personal Name". Your username (the name your system knows you as) > is still "rrakkar". To change that you will have to talk to your sys > admin. > > Ed > thanks alot Ed, what happened to my buddy Robin?, if I can't thank him myself, could you please pass on my regards?. Loadsa love Rav. > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > PGPKey-ID:CA3AFA5D Fingerprint: 2DE6 5527 144E D1BC 3C55 9FA5 518E 52EE > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:36:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA28639 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:36:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA21473; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:36:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA10223; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:35:19 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA46178 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:32:38 -0800 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA05958 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:32:37 -0800 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA26323; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:02:36 -0330 (NST) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.3) id JAA21200; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:02:36 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:02:35 -0330 (NST) Reply-To: Andrew Vardy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mailing lists - coping In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 21 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > AV> On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote: > AV> I want to know how to cope with mailing lists. I don't think this > AV> has ever been mentioned before. Never seen anyone discuss it. > > Yes it has. It falls under the "how do I filter x into y" category. Maybe I was also including the idea of arranging real old mail, may wish to refer to sometime in the future, or use as boilerplate potential text material to add in future mail. But month old or more, so you have to download it. Do you people just download folders every month? Or download bundles of (E)xported mail? > > AV> How does one cope with a flurry of messages from a very many > AV> high-volume mailing lists? How to keep it all remotely > AV> manageable, and be able to locate important messages? Pine does > AV> not let you subdivide mail that comes in according to lists. All > AV> mail goes simply in one INBOX. > > Two problems here: > > 1. filtering > consult Nancy McGough's fabulous filtering faq Ok. Gone through steps: 1-7. Now, the test did not work. No file appears in my 'mail' directory. And no file appears in my '.procmail' directory. I tested a whole bunch of times. And a bunch of mail, all mail I sent to myself, appeared all in my INBOX. I don't think there's any typos I made in any files I created. Help! ;-) > > 2. scoring/killing > pine does not do scoring. It doesn't do killfiling, either. Both > sucks. If you have to deal with many hv-lists (and newsgroups, > too), you might be interested in trying Gnus for XEmacs. You will Will that work for OSF1? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:56:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA28802 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA21643; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:55:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA10460; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:52:11 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA44690 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:50:08 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA13187 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:50:01 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA01698; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:49:45 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 27 Oct 1997 13:49:45 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: mailing lists - coping In-Reply-To: Andrew Vardy's message of "Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:02:35 -0330 (NST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Andrew Vardy X-Cc: "Robin S. Socha" , Pine Discussion Forum X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "AV" == Andrew Vardy writes: AV> On 21 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: AV> On Mon, 20 Oct 1997, Andrew Vardy wrote: [...] AV> Do you people just download folders every month? Or download AV> bundles of (E)xported mail? Soup packages, actually. But that's of no importance here :-) [...] >> 1. filtering AV> Ok. Gone through steps: 1-7. Now, the test did not work. No AV> file appears in my 'mail' directory. And no file appears in my AV> '.procmail' directory. I tested a whole bunch of times. And a AV> bunch of mail, all mail I sent to myself, appeared all in my AV> INBOX. I don't think there's any typos I made in any files I AV> created. Help! ;-) Wrong list here, but I get the impression you'd rather read the docs again. Era Eriksson and some other people from the procmail list have put together very nice tutorials/how-to's and stuff. Do a websearch for those. Also, try to grab a tool called dotfile-generator. It might be helpful in the beginning. And don't forget to put procmail on verbose and check the logs. >> 2. scoring/killing AV> Will that work for OSF1? Sure. What's OSF1? A tv channel? Later, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. What's this script do? unzip ; touch ; finger ; mount ; gasp ; yes ; umount ; sleep From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 05:04:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA28889 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 05:04:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA21728; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 05:04:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA42210; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:58:45 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA16762 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:56:42 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA06811 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 04:56:39 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA01703; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:56:18 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 27 Oct 1997 13:56:18 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: QUERY In-Reply-To: RAV's message of "Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:26:09 +0000 (GMT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: RAV X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN R> "R" == RAV writes: >> Ed wrote: >> Yes, Robin can be helpful as long as his cat doesn't vomit on his >> keyboard. :-) R> what does that mean? It means I have a cat that on and off smiles at me and then throws up all over my keyboard. And my monitor. And sometimes my computer. Which has cost me $4500 all in all so far. R> Ed thanks alot Ed, what happened to my buddy Robin? Same as every weekend. Got bored, got drunk, fell asleep. 2x times. Weekend over, done. Hehee ;-) R> Loadsa love Rav. I certainly do hope Rav is a female name }:-> -- Robin S. Socha M.A. "And the next time you consider complaining that running Lucid Emacs 19.05 via NFS from a remote Linux machine in Paraguay doesn't seem to get the background colors right, you'll know who to thank." (M. Welsh) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:04:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA30360 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:04:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA24231; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:04:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA02788; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:59:46 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA41778 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:57:39 -0800 Received: from leofric.coventry.ac.uk (rrakkar@leofric.coventry.ac.uk [193.61.107.33]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA26689 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 07:57:36 -0800 Received: (from rrakkar@localhost) by leofric.coventry.ac.uk (8.8.6/8.6.11) id PAA29221; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:57:16 GMT Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:57:16 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: RAV To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: QUERY In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: rrakkar@leofric X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 27 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > R> "R" == RAV writes: > >> Ed wrote: > > >> Yes, Robin can be helpful as long as his cat doesn't vomit on his > >> keyboard. :-) > R> what does that mean? > > It means I have a cat that on and off smiles at me and then throws up > all over my keyboard. And my monitor. And sometimes my computer. Which > has cost me $4500 all in all so far. >Oh how sweet, what's your cat's name? > R> Ed thanks alot Ed, what happened to my buddy Robin? > > Same as every weekend. Got bored, got drunk, fell asleep. 2x > times. Weekend over, done. Hehee ;-) > Abit of an alkie then is he? > R> Loadsa love Rav. > > I certainly do hope Rav is a female name }:-> > It certainly is. > -- > Robin S. Socha M.A. > "And the next time you consider complaining that running Lucid Emacs > 19.05 via NFS from a remote Linux machine in Paraguay doesn't seem to > get the background colors right, you'll know who to thank." (M. Welsh) > Is this for my benefit or what? Rav. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:05:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA32166 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:05:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA25878; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:05:22 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA24829; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:59:09 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA28070 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:56:25 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26897 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:56:22 -0800 Received: from mailgate22 (mailgate22-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.54]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA02435 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:56:19 -0800 Received: by mailgate22 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA22444; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:55:49 -0800 Received: from sdn-ts-002okocitp06.dialsprint.net(168.191.133.41) by mailfep4-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.10/Q_22808_1_3454c793; Mon Oct 27 08:55:47 1997 Message-Id: <3454C791.1C83B19@sprintmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:55:46 -0600 Reply-To: donbrown@sprintmail.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Don Brown To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Application/MS-TNEF Enclosures MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN What are they and what do I need to decipher them? ~ db From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:41:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA00362 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA26806; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:41:51 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA28349; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:36:23 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA17894 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:33:09 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA01912 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 09:32:39 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id SAA02546; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 18:27:40 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 27 Oct 1997 18:27:40 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Application/MS-TNEF Enclosures In-Reply-To: Don Brown's message of "Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:55:46 -0600" References: <3454C791.1C83B19@sprintmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: donbrown@sprintmail.com X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "DB" == Don Brown writes: DB> What are they Crap by idiots from Redmont for idiots all over the world. From the people who invented edlin, you know... DB> and what do I need to decipher them? Probably a full frontal lobotomy. Just a hint: I killfile anyone and anything that has this stuff in their mails. Yes, I love my procmail... Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. We are using Linux daily to UP our productivity - so UP yours! (Adapted from Pat Paulsen by Joe Sloan) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:19:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA01260 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:19:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA27661; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:19:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA02076; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:15:03 -0800 Resent-Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:15:03 -0800 Resent-Message-Id: <199710271815.KAA02076@lists2.u.washington.edu> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA15156 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:12:10 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA12932 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:11:39 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA27461 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:11:17 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA21891 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:11:16 -0800 Message-Id: <3454C70F.6DD2A406@sprintmail.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:53:36 -0600 Reply-To: donbrown@sprintmail.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Don Brown To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: application/MS-TNEF Resent-To: Pine Info Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Resent-From: David L Miller X-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for dlm+postmaster; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:54:23 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by tupperware.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA05774 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:54:21 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from mailgate22 (mailgate22-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.54]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id IAA02386 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:54:18 -0800 X-Received: by mailgate22 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id IAA21823; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 08:53:47 -0800 X-Received: from sdn-ts-002okocitp06.dialsprint.net(168.191.133.41) by mailfep4-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.10/Q_22536_1_3454c711; Mon Oct 27 08:53:37 1997 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I found your e-mail during a search for it, but can't find the answer. What the hell is "application/MS-TNEF and what kind of plug-in does one need to decipher it? ~ db From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:34:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA01609 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:34:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA28032; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:34:28 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA16966; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:29:33 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA33016 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:27:16 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA21303 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:26:34 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA02604; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 19:26:02 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 27 Oct 1997 19:26:02 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: application/MS-TNEF In-Reply-To: Don Brown's message of "Mon, 27 Oct 1997 10:53:36 -0600" References: <3454C70F.6DD2A406@sprintmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: donbrown@sprintmail.com X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "DB" == Don Brown writes: DB> I found your e-mail during a search for it, but can't find the DB> answer. What the hell is "application/MS-TNEF and what kind of DB> plug-in does one need to decipher it? ~ db This is a faq. Do not get on our nerves. Read the shpxvat manual. Don't come back until you've read it. Simply don't bother with it. Shoot the guy who sent it. Shoot Gill Bates. Bomb Redmont. HTH, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. "And the next time you consider complaining that running Lucid Emacs 19.05 via NFS from a remote Linux machine in Paraguay doesn't seem to get the background colors right, you'll know who to thank." (M. Welsh) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:51:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA04522 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:51:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA08643; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:51:45 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA00367; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:45:19 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA50554 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:42:55 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA09082 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 12:42:17 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA26668; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:59:27 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 11:59:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: David L Miller To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: subscriber-post only (was: Re: wealth) In-Reply-To: <19971022201521egreshko@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com@edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Greshko X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 22 Oct 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > > When we discussed the split of pine-info and comp.mail.pine a while > > back, the consensus was to try to shift the pine-info focus toward > > Pine/System administrators and "power users." At least that was the > > consensus among the Pine Team ;-) That would seem to make it > > appropriate to put some sort of (low) hurdle between pine-info > > subscribers and joe-random-user.... > > OK....I understand. However, I don't think it "practical". I say that since > many folks are still using 3.91 and I expect that even a larger portion are using > and will continue to use 3.96. The "documentation" that comes with these doesn't > indicate that the mailing list is for "power" users and if you put the up this > low hurdle then the newbies don't get serviced. Unless, of course, you will have > the listserver sending explict instuctions telling them that they must subscribe > before they ask. Listproc does send back instructions if the sender is not subscribed to a subscriber-post list. Currently that text can't be customized on a per-list basis, but the listproc support guys claim better customization is coming RSN... > But, once you do that it is no longer for power users...is it? Admittedly the hurdle is pretty low, but you might be suprised how many people trip over it ;-) -- David L. Miller | The gods too are fond of a joke. Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | -- Aristotle Box 354841, University of Washington | 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:57:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA06362 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:57:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA10309; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:57:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA06838; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:47:05 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA45716 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:45:13 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA04284 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:44:57 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 27 Oct 97 22:44:30 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA15349; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 23:42:40 +0300 Message-Id: Date: 27 Oct 1997 23:42:39 +0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FYI: L. Wirzenius's "much mail" page In-Reply-To: Dean Gaudet's message of "Sun, 26 Oct 1997 05:22:40 -0800 (PST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "DG" == Dean Gaudet writes: DG> I read well over 300 messages a day with pine and a collection of DG> scripts just fine. But I'm of the "vi" school of thought, meaning DG> I am completely content augmenting and expanding my system through DG> a series of external programs. It would appear you're from the DG> emacs school of thought. So this is a somewhat religious argument DG> ... but anyhow. No. I used to use pine. Until I started subscribing to high volume mailing lists. And read news heavily. Then there was only one alternative: Gnus. DG> It's also worth noting that I'm in a position where I can set up DG> an always connected server exactly as I like it. I could do this DG> with a periodically connected server (or desktop) as well, it's DG> not that much different. That's not the point. I do the same. Still, pine and slrn couldn't handle the load. I'm still looking for a nice, fast cli mail reader. Mutt is ok, but I like pine and would like to see it improve to a point where I can use it without heavy procmailing and digestion problems when the next 100 mails come in. DG> On 26 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> Automatic filtering >> -- When the e-mail comes via many lists, it is imperative that >> there is a way to automatically filter e-mail to different >> folders, so that lists can be separate, and so that it is >> easier to do important lists first. DG> Use procmail filtering, or use subaddressing via qmail or procmail DG> (I choose the latter, it's far more reliable). As I said, that's out of the question for novice users, and too much hassle for me. Check XFmail and see what I mean. Pegasus-style filtering rules - >KeWL< for newbies. >> Proper threading >> - When viewing a long discussion, it helps understanding it >> immensely if the messages are shown in a logical order: a reply >> is shown immediately after the message it is a reply to. Merely >> sorting messages by subject and date is not good enough. >> ** Amen DG> Huh? It works fine for me. "Proper threading" depends on mailer DG> features that not all mailers use -- so the messages just simply DG> do not have the data in them to be threaded. I found when I wrote DG> a threading mail to news gateway that the threads (as seen by trn) DG> were pretty useless and pine's "ordered subject" sorting did a DG> better job. Not in my experience. Ever tried mutt? I mean - order by subject is kinda nice, but you loose all the subthreads - and you don't get visualization of hierarchies. Not good. >> Form letters >> - Many people will ask identical questions, and the mailer should >> provide some support for using form letters. The easier, the >> better. >> ** Have I mentioned Gnus today, yet? However, I don't see form >> letters as a vital point - except that Gnus' junk.el _really_ >> kicks ass. DG> ^rform Not really. Cannot be done context-sensitively. As so many things in pine, this is a kluge. Works for some, but not for beginners - or non-u*ixers. >> Different sender addresses, signatures, etc DG> Yep I need this too, so I added it. See DG> . Fine - will it be included? Pine isn't gpl'ed. I know and respect the reasons, but it's... not very satisfactory? DG> IMHO signatures are overrated... even if I didn't put this url DG> here you can probably derive my homepage from the From address. DG> So any information I put into a signature is redundant. Too much of a hassle. Gnus gives me clickable urls and mail addresses, the latter being of importance in an age of braindead lusers invalidating their own addresses. >> Easy to cut away extra addresses when replying >> + A common problem with mailing lists is that their messages collect >> large lists of Cc's. When person A sends a message, it lists only >> the list as a receiver. When B responds, his mailer adds A to the >> Cc list. When C replies to B's message, his mailer adds B. And so >> on. DG> Reply-To: for mailing lists has received a bad rap for reasons I DG> can't agree with. In particular I think folks who accidentally DG> send sensitive private mail to the public Reply-To learn after one DG> mistake. If they don't learn then they probably shouldn't be DG> trusted with sensitive data in the first place ;) Pine deals with DG> this excellently. Yes, but it needn't be that way, right? Besides, I like the possibilty to use reply-to on a regular basis based on context - like I'd never openly post to gnu.emacs.gnus... >> -+ The mailer should do its utmost to show any content type, >> including binary stuff. If nothing else, the mailer should >> show the printable parts of an unknown binary type (perhaps at >> request). Many bad mailers will put a bogus content type, but >> a good mailer will allow the receiver to process the mail >> anyway. DG> Ok I agree with you here. Pine also has no way to override a DG> display filter. For example I had a pgp display filter, however DG> when PGP 5 came out and I hadn't had a chance to upgrade yet, and DG> folks started sending PGP 5 signed messages I could not read them DG> at all... because my display filter couldn't decode them. I just DG> ended up disabling the filter until I could fix the situation. It DG> would have been nice to be able to keep the filter but override it DG> occasionally. That's one of pine weakest spots imvho. I had pgp5 running in no time. I can snarf and finger pgp... >> - There will be a need to save messages in various folders for >> archival. To keep things manageable, the folders have to be >> hierarchical, since a one-level structure breaks when there are >> many folders. There will be many. DG> I have a very flat hierarchy, there is some depth, but it's mostly DG> to build a tree of archives. All my incoming mail is DG> automatically copied to an archive of the appropriate inbox. DG> These archives are automatically rotated and compressed (and DG> marked read-only so that pine can deal with them a lot more DG> efficiently). And just how much time did it take you to create the scripts? I lost 2 months' worth of mail when my prune script screwed up. Ok - it didn't, I did ,-) And why is such a mechanism not part of pine *nagnagnag* DG> In my experience I'll dig through archives about twice a week, and DG> usually that's looking only at last week's mail which is easy to DG> access. This method allows me to completely avoid making the DG> decision of what I should keep -- I keep everything. Then my DG> inboxes essentially become "todo" lists, and I rarely have to save DG> messages elsewhere. Sorry, but that's not an argument. The list keeps getting "quota" questions. A smarter archiving mechanism is badly needed. And deeper hierarchies, too. I want to have *one* Archive and then mail/news, and then months, but also... >> -- At the same time, some lists do not require eternal archiving, so >> it is necessary to provide some automatic expiration of archived >> messages. The period of expiration needs to be settable for each >> archive separately, and it must not apply to all saved messages. DG> $300 gets you at least 1Gb of high quality scsi disk. gzip -9 DG> helps wonderfully. I doubt any human is really reading enough DG> mail to fill 1Gb of disk with compressed archives. Why make the DG> decisions? You never know when you'll want a particular message. DG> I've dug things out a year and a half later, and thanked myself DG> that I just keep everything. Not a valid argument. I got 9 GB here, but that's not the point. With pine, this amount of mail simply cannot be handled. I ended up tweaking Apache to eat gz's and converted everything with MHonArc, with webglimpse as search engine. Flashy, but it sucked like hell... >> Searching >> -- The archives should be searchable: full text searches, and for >> certain authors, subjects, dates, and other such criteria. One >> often needs to refer to old correspondence, but finding it in >> even a modest archive will be difficult, regardless of how it is >> organized, unless there is some way to search it in addition to >> just browsing it. >> ** XEmacs -> Gnus -> igrep -> >KeWL< DG> On small archives, maybe. For something large the only solution is DG> far more complicated, and should involve technology like glimpse. DG> I occasionally long for this, but it's only once a month or so that DG> I have to dig something out of long term compressed files. Not prob. Hook that into XEmacs - a friend of mine already did, and I will RSN. Very good results on this side of the ocean. >> Many concurrent operations DG> Definately not. In fact I can't stand pine's behaviour when you DG> accidentally start two of them. There are many operations that I DG> used to perform in mh involving multiple message cross referencing DG> when generating a reply which I find a real chore in pine. (Yes I DG> switched from mh to pine.) Hehehe... [...] >> -- The mailer should provide support for encryption (at least using >> PGP, but other formats as well, if possible). DG> You can do this with any of the numerous pine+pgp wrappers and the DG> display filter and outgoing filter support. The outgoing filters DG> are trivial to use, I just hit ^N or ^P to select one. My filters DG> do avoid re-asking for the password, pine provides all the hooks DG> necessary to only ask once. (I use something called PAPP, use DG> hotbot or something to find it.) Aldo and I are good friends, but guess which mailer he now uses? Besides, his idea to store the password locally is utterly braindead. Ever seen XEmacs' mailcrypt at work? Now, that's what I call comfort, and I cannot (yes, I can...) see why pine shouldn't have this. Hey, guys at the pine tower - come up with an export edition .-) >> Spam filtering >> -- The mailer should support spam filtering, some way or another. >> ** We've had this up there somewhere, but the point is still valid. DG> procmail. No. Definitly not. Not for Joe Random User, and definitly not for just filtering. There are cleaner solutions than procmail, and there are easier ones. >> - People active on the Internet will need to subscribe and >> unsubscribe to mailing lists all the time, and the mailer >> should make this easy. For example, when subscribing, it >> should offer to create a new folder and a filtering rule to >> place everything from that mailing list to the new folder. DG> I have a script "majorsub" which does all the magic required to DG> subscribe me to a majordomo-style list, and set up the folder. DG> Because I use subaddressing the "filter" is created implicitly and DG> is never wrong. Could everybody have it? How about a "good ideas that Really Work(tm)" page on the pine site? [...] >> Priority alarms, and other biffy features >> -- The mailer should be able to recognize (some) important messages, >> and raise an alarm when such a message arrives. The user must be >> able to configure what is considered important and what is not, >> using the filtering mechanism. DG> Use procmail to trigger some external program... I generally let DG> other humans make the effort to tell me some other way when DG> something is really important. If it's a machine that needs to DG> tell me something is important, it does it via pager. i.e. you're DG> not online 24 hours a day, or at least you shouldn't be ;) If it's DG> important when you're logged in then it's important when you're in DG> the washroom, or out eating lunch, so you better have an DG> out-of-band signalling method ... I have that, and it's ok, but I hate procmail. ;-) XEmacs has nice biffy stuff like that, like a yellow envelope with a number beside it. What more could you ask for? DG> Dean >> "AHK" == Adam H Kerman writes: >> From: Dean Gaudet Date: Sun, 26 >> Oct 1997 05:22:40 -0800 (PST) DG> Dean >> "AHK" == Adam H Kerman writes: >> From: "Robin S. Socha" Date: 26 >> Oct 1997 12:19:29 +0300 >> Automatic filtering >> ** procmail is ok, but not available on some systems. XFmail's stuff is >> a good example how to make filtering user-friendly. I would have >> added a couple more minuses if I had the place. Pine's behaviour >> here is totally braindead - and tabbing is *not* what I want when >> reading a hv-list. AHK> Since fine tools for filtering exist, it's not something I would AHK> like to see added to pine. I don't understand your comment about AHK> tabbing. I don't like to jump around blindly amidst 200 or so messages, when it might take a minute to open a folder. Gnus gives me the opportunity to fetch just the headers if needed, and that's really fast. >> Good MIME support AHK> Yes, it will be lovely when we can pick and choose which AHK> attachments to include in reply, or if they are merely plain AHK> text, merely inserted into the body of the reply text. Yup. Is it coming? AHK> But, dammit, sending html-encoded messages is such an abuse of AHK> e-mail that I would rather pine continue to fail to support this, AHK> in the hopes that other products that generate this code for mail AHK> composing will wither and die. Only over my dead body. >> - Also, if an address is local, the system should expand it to show >> the full name of the local user, if possible. This also prevents >> mistakes. AHK> Hm. Good suggestion. >> "SiSJ" == Shoeless in San Jose writes: SiSJ> On 26 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: >> Automatic filtering SiSJ> Along the idea of doing important lists first, I would like to SiSJ> ge able to rearrange the folders so that the most important (or SiSJ> most active) could be placed first, but it would be left up to SiSJ> the user as to which folder went first, second, etc. The way it SiSJ> is now, you have to delete folders and recreate them in the new SiSJ> order. Even better: Gnus' adaptive scoring. It remembers which folders you enter most and arranges them for you. Perfect. >> -- Filtering does not have to be based only on the list, so the >> criteria should be flexible enough to allow other sorts of >> filtering as well. At least, one should be able to filter >> based on any header and the presence or absence of a string in >> that header. SiSJ> It should be as flexible as procmail if it's going to be done at SiSJ> all: filtering on any header, or even on a keyword in the body SiSJ> of the message. That's not procmail's domain. Overkill. You can use elm's filter for such primitive tasks. >> -- The mailer must be able to show which folders have new messages, >> and preferably how many. SiSJ> I fully agree with this one. I do that now with a script at SiSJ> login, which is also available any time I'm at the prompt, but I SiSJ> think it would be nice to have the mail program show me this SiSJ> when I start it so I know where I need to go to read mail, and SiSJ> which folders have a *lot* of mail that needs to be taken care SiSJ> of. Another one for a page on the pine site, right? Alternately, I'd volunteer to collect this stuff (Sven, would you?) and put all the links on my server. I feel this would be a Good Thing to have. Also, I'd like to put "good" pinercs there. SiSJ> On the other hand, I'd hate to see Pine get to be like some of SiSJ> today's programs. Some of them try to do everything but wash your SiSJ> dishes, and they end up being worthless for every task, not to SiSJ> mention crashing because they *are* trying to do it all. I'd SiSJ> rather keep Pine a fairly simple, straightforward mailing-reading SiSJ> program if adding lots of bells and whistles like filtering will SiSJ> just slow it down or cause a lot of problems. But XEmacs *is* simple. It's kinda big, allright, but it's simple and customizable. Hey, this is not MS-Country, you know? ;-) >> Proper threading >> - When viewing a long discussion, it helps understanding it >> immensely if the messages are shown in a logical order: a reply >> is shown immediately after the message it is a reply to. Merely >> sorting messages by subject and date is not good enough. SiSJ> Sounds good, but I'd also like to be able to sort the mail in SiSJ> their folders differently from how I sort the newsgroup. The SiSJ> way it is now, I have to run Pine with a different .pinerc file SiSJ> to do that when reading newsgroups. Kluge -> Bad Thing. SiSJ> "Adam H. Kerman" writes: SiSJ> Overall, I like Pine, especially its range of user-settable SiSJ> features. I think that's the number one feature that makes me SiSJ> use Pine over any other program. If I want to be able to set SiSJ> something a certain way, I usually can. On the other hand, if SiSJ> I'm a clueless newbie who just wants to be able to read mail, SiSJ> they can do that. The settings are there and, when they learn SiSJ> more about Pine (as I did from this mailing list), they can SiSJ> adjust things to suit their tastes. I see it just the other way around. Why not have a "I'm scared, give me interactive help" and a "I'm a u*ix God, gimme all NOW" button? I hated sitting there re-configuring pine after I lost one pinerc. SiSJ> I would like to see Pine have *some* sort of filtering available, SiSJ> again with the option to use or not use it, and with the flexibility SiSJ> of procmail or Eudora Pro's filtering. However, I'd hate to see SiSJ> Pine get to be so 'busy' that it has more features (read problems) SiSJ> than are absolutely necessary to keep it a simple, yet reliable mail SiSJ> tool. Again, mutt, XFmail and Gnus handle this stuff well, without being slower than pine AFAICS. BTW, did you guys have a hard time quoting this mail? Pico must die RSN... ]:-> Hehehe... Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University GMC d++ s+: a- C++ UL++ P++$>+++$ L++$>+++$ E+++ W-- N++ w--- O- M-- V-- PS--- PE+++ Y+ PGP++ t++ 5-- X-- tv++ b+++ DI++ D+ g e++ h r++ y+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:58:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA06378 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:58:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA03550; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:58:06 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA07510; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:54:29 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA39548 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:53:05 -0800 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA05400 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 13:52:27 -0800 Received: from tacom by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA17365; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:53:10 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:55:44 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: Shawn Jeffries Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: question about pine.conf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@tacom X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hello guys, I am at a company that has a number of SUN SPARC and Solaris machines running NIS. I want to be able to set up the global pine config files such that no matter which machine anyone logs into, they all use the same pine.conf . The program seems to only look in /usr/local/lib/ for those, but this location is a problem for two reasons. One, we'd have to install the global files on each machine, and two, our 4.1.3 machines don't even have that directory. The PC-PINE version can take the 'PINECONF' variable , is there an equivalent for Unix ? Maybe some other solution? I really appreciate the help and quick response! Shawn M. Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:32:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA09994 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:32:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA14175; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:32:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id QAA19441; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:28:44 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id QAA24416 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:26:57 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA29842 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:26:50 -0800 Received: from falcon.invisionresearch.com ([207.38.69.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id QAA07279 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:26:45 -0800 Received: from rpace.invisionresearch.com ([207.38.69.131]) by falcon.invisionresearch.com (Netscape Mail Server v2.0) with ESMTP id AAA26141 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:35:36 -0800 Message-Id: <3454BE2D.F5C588CD@invisionresearch.com> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 16:15:41 +0000 Reply-To: rpace@invisionresearch.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: rpace@insync.com (Rick Pace) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Viewpoint Emulation with PINE. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am trying to use a viewpoint emulation with PINE. The message I get is: Your terminal, of type "viewpoint", is lacking functions needed to run pine.... I have an existing viewpoint emulation that works fine in Unix and with my existing applications. Do you have any suggestions, or is there somewhere that I can determine more specifically what functions are lacking? Am I missing Function Keys or Video Attributes within my viewpoint terminfo file? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Rick Pace rpace@insync.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:25:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA16820 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA27279; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:25:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA07134; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:15:26 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA40136 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:11:55 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA10634 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:11:53 -0800 Received: from direct.ispn.net (direct.ispn.net [206.152.124.88]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA26901 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:11:50 -0800 Received: from perham.k12.ispn.net ([206.10.80.138]) by direct.ispn.net (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA07414 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:16:00 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <34560FC6.43FEC525@perham.k12.ispn.net> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:16:06 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Katie Zacharias To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: hi MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am a student at PHS and I am trying to find information of weighted grades in school systems around the US. Would you be so kind as to send me some inforamation on the weighting standards of your school. I would really appreciate it. Thank-you. Sincerely, Katie Zacharias -- Katie Zacharias PHS Basketball is life! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:41:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA21750 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:41:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA27711; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:41:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA08871; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:34:36 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA51326 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:31:22 -0800 Received: from ruby.ils.unc.edu (ruby.ils.unc.edu [152.2.81.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA09616 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:31:09 -0800 Received: from localhost (alumj@localhost) by ruby.ils.unc.edu (8.8.7/8.6.10) with SMTP id LAA01382 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:31:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:31:59 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Jim Alumbaugh To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: filters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >From "Pine Technical Notes" -------(begin) Design changes introduced in Pine 3.8x facilitate Pine users filtering email. You still have to get a filtering program and configure it correctly, but Pine now allows users to specify a set of incoming-folders. Pine will separate out all the folders listed as incoming-folders and offer convenient access to these. We hope that in the future Pine will be able to offer new message counts for all of the incoming folders. -----(end) As part of a class project, I want to write a some sort of filter for incoming mail that can be used with Pine. Anyone know of any other filters around that I can take a look at? (Besides the Elm and Procmail filters referenced in the Technical notes.) Also, I don't subscribe to the list, so please reply to the above address. Thanks. -Jim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:51:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA21940 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA27899; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:51:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA27376; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:40:14 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA26174 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:37:51 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA10436 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 08:37:35 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA07483; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:36:29 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 28 Oct 1997 17:36:25 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: hi In-Reply-To: Katie Zacharias's message of "Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:16:06 -0600" References: <34560FC6.43FEC525@perham.k12.ispn.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Katie Zacharias X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "KZ" == Katie Zacharias writes: KZ> I am a student at PHS and I am trying to find information of KZ> weighted grades in school systems around the US. My, my... Take a minute and think about it: "Pine Discussion Forum"... Does that sound like "weighted grades in school systems around the US"? I mean, really... does it? Have you talked to you shrink about this lately? KZ> Basketball is life! Ummm... sure... Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. "We all know Linux is great...it does infinite loops in 5 seconds." (Linus Torvalds) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:17:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA22698 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:17:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA28684; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:17:39 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA00217; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:04:25 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA27968 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:01:48 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA08975 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 09:01:42 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA23441 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:01:22 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:01:22 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: pine confused by X11 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Every now and again, I receive a message with a plain text attachment that pine refuses to display, claiming that there are special characters that can only be displayed with X11. Here's the sample attachment, but I don't see the special characters. Is there anything in the following headers that is causing pine to see something that isn't there? I'm using Pine 3.95 on Linux. X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ {offending mailer} Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01BCDF9B.52FF01A0" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01BCDF9B.52FF01A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit {plain text that wasn't displayable, deleted} ------=_NextPart_000_01BCDF9B.52FF01A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable {2nd attachment deleted} ------=_NextPart_000_01BCDF9B.52FF01A0-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:23:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA24134 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:23:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA23468; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:23:01 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id KAA06267; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:17:49 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id KAA17130 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:16:08 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA18022 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 10:16:04 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA07979; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 19:15:37 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 28 Oct 1997 19:15:37 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine confused by X11 In-Reply-To: "Adam H. Kerman"'s message of "Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:01:22 -0600 (CST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Adam H. Kerman" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "AHK" == Adam H Kerman writes: AHK> Every now and again, I receive a message with a plain text AHK> attachment that pine refuses to display, claiming that there AHK> are special characters that can only be displayed with X11. MIME problem. AHK> Here's the sample attachment, but I don't see the special AHK> characters. MS is a special character. It says: "Bomb Redmont". AHK> Is there anything in the following headers that is causing pine AHK> to see something that isn't there? I'm using Pine 3.95 on Linux. AHK> X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 AHK> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ {offending mailer} Nice. Throw that rubbish away. It's an abomination. Gill Bates must die RSN. You can safely discard the attachment, it's probably an ad for Windog2000 (to be released RSN). Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. We are MicroSoft. You will be assimilated. Resistance is futile. (Attributed to B.G., Gill Bates) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:23:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA25466 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:23:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA01968; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:23:36 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA11838; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:19:07 -0800 Resent-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:19:07 -0800 Resent-Message-Id: <199710281919.LAA11838@lists2.u.washington.edu> Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA39942 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:15:28 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA25394 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:14:57 -0800 Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA24752 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:14:39 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA03202 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:14:38 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:35:08 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "m.c. j. manuel haro hdz." To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: "New question" Resent-To: Pine Info Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-From: David L Miller X-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for dlm+postmaster; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:28:04 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by tupperware.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA02647 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:28:03 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from aguila.ita.mx ([200.23.84.211]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA12621 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 15:28:00 -0800 X-Received: from localhost (jmharo@localhost) by aguila.ita.mx (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA02015 for ; Mon, 27 Oct 1997 17:35:08 -0600 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello friends, especially Robin !!! We have a trouble: Recently, we have tried to install Pine 3.96 over a Sun ULTRA with SunOS 5.5.1 Generic. As we tried to compile the program, sow the next error messages: . . . cd ../c-client;make make:fatal error:don't know how to make target '../c-client/osdep.h' current working directory/trabajo/pine/pine3.96/imap/non-ansi/ipopd ***error code 1 make: fatal error:command failed for target 'build' . . . current working directory/trabajo/pine/pine3.96/imap/'sun' ***error code 1 make:fatal error: command failed for target 'sun' . . ./cmplh/p2.sh helptext.h make:fatal error:command failed for target '/c-client/mail.h' I hope that the group can help me. Couse we really need the mail in function. The staff, the school and I, will be so gratefull. Hasta luego, amigos!! xxxxxx xx xx M.C. JOSE MANUEL HARO HERNANDEZ xx xx jmharo@aguila.ita.mx xxxx INSTITUTO TECNOLOGICO DE AGUASCALIENTES. AGS,MEXICO xx xx Hidalgo 307 xx xx Jesus Maria, Ags. xx xx 91 496 50340 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:14:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA26795 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:14:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA26375; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:14:14 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA15508; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:06:26 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA34320 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:03:52 -0800 Received: from boxoffice.rit.com ([204.182.110.26]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA06331 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:03:13 -0800 Received: from geoffreyr.corbis.com (host358.corbis.com [205.142.245.102]) by boxoffice.rit.com (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA23780; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:57:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199710281957.LAA23780@boxoffice.rit.com> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:57:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Geoff Reed To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re[2]: pine confused by X11 In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > MS is a special character. It says: "Bomb Redmont". That's Redmond :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:33:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA27096 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:33:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA03781; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:33:13 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA17188; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:24:43 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA41754 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:22:11 -0800 Received: from pcmail.liv.ac.uk (pp@pcmail.liv.ac.uk [138.253.252.13]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA29491 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:22:08 -0800 Received: from mail.liv.ac.uk [138.253.100.84] by pcmail.liv.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.61 #3) id 0xQI9N-0005o3-00; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:22:05 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:21:56 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Alan Thew To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Bad MIME from post.office sites MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine List X-Sender: qq11@mail.liv.ac.uk X-No-Archive: yes X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Has anyone seen this problem where bounce mail is not readable unless you view it using CTRL-W ? Thanks -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk Computing Services,University of Liverpool Fax: +44 151 794-4442 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:33:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA27099 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:33:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA03784; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:33:17 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA27838; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:26:22 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA51388 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:23:36 -0800 Received: from pcmail.liv.ac.uk (pp@pcmail.liv.ac.uk [138.253.252.13]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA29663 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:23:33 -0800 Received: from mail.liv.ac.uk [138.253.100.84] by pcmail.liv.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.61 #3) id 0xQI7v-0005o0-00; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:20:35 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:20:26 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Alan Thew To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: "New question" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "m.c. j. manuel haro hdz." X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: qq11@mail.liv.ac.uk X-No-Archive: yes X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Have you tried make sol or make gso? Do you have Sun's compiler or gcc? -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liverpool.ac.uk Computing Services,University of Liverpool Fax: +44 151 794-4442 On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, m.c. j. manuel haro hdz. wrote: > > Hello friends, especially Robin !!! > > We have a trouble: > Recently, we have tried to install Pine 3.96 > over a Sun ULTRA with SunOS 5.5.1 Generic. > > As we tried to compile the program, sow the next error messages: > > . > . > . > cd ../c-client;make > make:fatal error:don't know how to make target '../c-client/osdep.h' > current working directory/trabajo/pine/pine3.96/imap/non-ansi/ipopd > ***error code 1 > make: fatal error:command failed for target 'build' > . > . > . > current working directory/trabajo/pine/pine3.96/imap/'sun' > ***error code 1 > make:fatal error: command failed for target 'sun' > . > . > ./cmplh/p2.sh helptext.h > make:fatal error:command failed for target '/c-client/mail.h' > > > I hope that the group can help me. Couse we really need the mail in > function. The staff, the school and I, will be so gratefull. > > Hasta luego, amigos!! > > > xxxxxx > xx xx M.C. JOSE MANUEL HARO HERNANDEZ > xx xx jmharo@aguila.ita.mx > xxxx INSTITUTO TECNOLOGICO DE AGUASCALIENTES. AGS,MEXICO > xx xx Hidalgo 307 > xx xx Jesus Maria, Ags. > xx xx 91 496 50340 > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:47:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA27330 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA27027; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:46:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA28841; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:43:01 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA18372 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:41:12 -0800 Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [204.62.130.91]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA13794 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:40:33 -0800 Received: (qmail 3718 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 1997 20:44:25 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 12:44:25 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dean Gaudet To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FYI: L. Wirzenius's "much mail" page In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Shoeless in San Jose X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Shoeless in San Jose wrote: > Along the idea of doing important lists first, I would like to ge able to > rearrange the folders so that the most important (or most active) could be > placed first, but it would be left up to the user as to which folder went > first, second, etc. The way it is now, you have to delete folders and > recreate them in the new order. quit pine, and type "pico .pinerc". You'll find the list of folders in there, quite easy to edit and order however you like. My folders are prioritized this way. > There are too many people who write in complaining about running out > of disk space. I think there should be a way to have Pine archive / > delete old mail. It should be set up to check for any mail in any > folders that it older than a given time period. This, like other > things, should be settable in the Setup / Config. This is what crontab and shell scripts do quite well. > This, too, would be a nice feature, but I think a simple *save* of the new > subscriber info. should be appropriate. Besides, one can always mail to > the list and ask how to unsubscribe...someone out there can help them out. > I would, therefore, consider this another 'bell' or 'whistle' that I > personally could live without. Ha ha, mail to the list to ask to be unsubscribed? Do you realise how rude/annoying that is to 99% of mailing list readers? You got the message when you subscribed, save it to a folder called "unsub" and keep that folder forever. Dean From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:33:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA28774 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:33:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA28334; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:33:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA33390; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:28:29 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA14044 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:26:40 -0800 Received: from lwcunix.lwc.edu (lwcunix.lwc.edu [159.230.37.17]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA11078 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:26:32 -0800 Received: from localhost by lwcunix.lwc.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19085; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:36:45 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:36:44 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Greg Tsigaridas To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: moving sent-mail Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine gurus, Is there any way to setup a global configuration that will automatically move sent-mail folders at the beginning of each month? Many of our users don't move their folders which makes it hard for me to periodically "purge" old folders. Thanks in advance! --greg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:43:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA28921 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:43:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05546; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:43:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA03772; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:35:17 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA38166 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:34:04 -0800 Received: from chinet.chinet.com (ahk@chinet.chinet.com [206.158.147.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA11915 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:34:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (ahk@localhost) by chinet.chinet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA26282 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:33:42 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:33:42 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Adam H. Kerman" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: pine confused by X11 In-Reply-To: <199710281957.LAA23780@boxoffice.rit.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >Subject: Re[2]: pine confused by X11 ^^^^^ >From: Geoff Reed >Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 11:57:22 -0800 (PST) I see you use Gatesware too. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:44:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA28937 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA05552; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:44:03 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA22699; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:26:37 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA14754 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:24:06 -0800 Received: from twinlark.arctic.org (twinlark.arctic.org [204.62.130.91]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA19086 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:24:02 -0800 Received: (qmail 5414 invoked by uid 500); 28 Oct 1997 21:28:09 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 13:28:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dean Gaudet To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FYI: L. Wirzenius's "much mail" page In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1053580162-1902649426-878074088=:1497" X-To: "Robin S. Socha" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1053580162-1902649426-878074088=:1497 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >> "DG" == Dean Gaudet writes: > > DG> It's also worth noting that I'm in a position where I can set up > DG> an always connected server exactly as I like it. I could do this > DG> with a periodically connected server (or desktop) as well, it's > DG> not that much different. > > That's not the point. I do the same. Still, pine and slrn couldn't > handle the load. I'm still looking for a nice, fast cli mail > reader. Mutt is ok, but I like pine and would like to see it improve > to a point where I can use it without heavy procmailing and digestion > problems when the next 100 mails come in. Try subaddressing. Filtering is a pain in the butt, I used to do it. I used to have a 1000 line procmailrc. Then I switched to qmail as my MTA and started using subaddressing heavily. I'm not even using procmail at the moment. (You can do subaddressing with sendmail+procmail by enabling procmail as the local delivery agent... but I didn't find it as nice to use.) I have no problem when 100 mails come in. They'll come in on my lower priority folders typically. Unless it's a whack of cron jobs finishing around the same time. But I can easily avoid the busy folders when I need to. > As I said, that's out of the question for novice users, and too much > hassle for me. Check XFmail and see what I mean. Pegasus-style > filtering rules - >KeWL< for newbies. How many newbies need to handle 500 messages per day? > >> Form letters > >> - Many people will ask identical questions, and the mailer should > >> provide some support for using form letters. The easier, the > >> better. > >> ** Have I mentioned Gnus today, yet? However, I don't see form > >> letters as a vital point - except that Gnus' junk.el _really_ > >> kicks ass. > > DG> ^rform > > Not really. Cannot be done context-sensitively. As so many things in > pine, this is a kluge. Works for some, but not for beginners - or > non-u*ixers. Oh fine then, hit |form and write a script called form which does the context sensitive crap. > >> Different sender addresses, signatures, etc > DG> Yep I need this too, so I added it. See > DG> . > > Fine - will it be included? Pine isn't gpl'ed. I know and respect the > reasons, but it's... not very satisfactory? I don't understand what you're asking. Will that patch be included in pine? No, I doubt it. It uses a qmail feature to set the envelope from, because I couldn't be bothered to do it in a way that works with sendmail. But isn't this the point of having the source code? Furthermore, GPL is not a holy grail that all software must meet. I'm one of the Apache devlopers. Apache is not GPL'd. GPL has various limitations that can actually hinder its use; or hinder the involvement of some developers. Apache is available under a variant of the Berkeley license. > DG> IMHO signatures are overrated... even if I didn't put this url > DG> here you can probably derive my homepage from the From address. > DG> So any information I put into a signature is redundant. > > Too much of a hassle. Gnus gives me clickable urls and mail > addresses, the latter being of importance in an age of braindead > lusers invalidating their own addresses. It doesn't matter to me if folks have to construct my web page address, or if they have to construct my email address. It takes some basic skills, but those are skills that I haven't seen anyone not pick up in 10 seconds. > DG> Reply-To: for mailing lists has received a bad rap for reasons I > DG> can't agree with. In particular I think folks who accidentally > DG> send sensitive private mail to the public Reply-To learn after one > DG> mistake. If they don't learn then they probably shouldn't be > DG> trusted with sensitive data in the first place ;) Pine deals with > DG> this excellently. > > Yes, but it needn't be that way, right? Besides, I like the > possibilty to use reply-to on a regular basis based on context - like > I'd never openly post to gnu.emacs.gnus... Pine is missing per-folder configuration. > >> -+ The mailer should do its utmost to show any content type, > >> including binary stuff. If nothing else, the mailer should > >> show the printable parts of an unknown binary type (perhaps at > >> request). Many bad mailers will put a bogus content type, but > >> a good mailer will allow the receiver to process the mail > >> anyway. > > DG> Ok I agree with you here. Pine also has no way to override a > DG> display filter. For example I had a pgp display filter, however > DG> when PGP 5 came out and I hadn't had a chance to upgrade yet, and > DG> folks started sending PGP 5 signed messages I could not read them > DG> at all... because my display filter couldn't decode them. I just > DG> ended up disabling the filter until I could fix the situation. It > DG> would have been nice to be able to keep the filter but override it > DG> occasionally. > > That's one of pine weakest spots imvho. I had pgp5 running in no > time. I can snarf and finger pgp... Uh, it's not pine's fault that I didn't have pgp5 going. It's my fault for not installing pgp5. The only thing pine didn't do right was allow me to override my broken filter without completely disabling it. > >> - There will be a need to save messages in various folders for > >> archival. To keep things manageable, the folders have to be > >> hierarchical, since a one-level structure breaks when there are > >> many folders. There will be many. > DG> I have a very flat hierarchy, there is some depth, but it's mostly > DG> to build a tree of archives. All my incoming mail is > DG> automatically copied to an archive of the appropriate inbox. > DG> These archives are automatically rotated and compressed (and > DG> marked read-only so that pine can deal with them a lot more > DG> efficiently). > > And just how much time did it take you to create the scripts? I lost 2 > months' worth of mail when my prune script screwed up. Ok - it didn't, > I did ,-) And why is such a mechanism not part of pine *nagnagnag* What prune script? I never delete anything in the archives. My scripts amount to: date="`date +\%Y\%m\%d`" cd $HOME/mail/archive for folder in *; do if [ -f $folder/$date ]; then echo "$folder/$date already exists!" elif [ -f $folder/current ]; then mv $folder/current $folder/$date && chmod 400 $folder/$date fi done And then two days later: find $HOME/mail/archive -name '[0-9]*[0-9]' -mtime +14 -print0 \ | xargs -0r gzip -9 Nothing is deleted. > DG> In my experience I'll dig through archives about twice a week, and > DG> usually that's looking only at last week's mail which is easy to > DG> access. This method allows me to completely avoid making the > DG> decision of what I should keep -- I keep everything. Then my > DG> inboxes essentially become "todo" lists, and I rarely have to save > DG> messages elsewhere. > > Sorry, but that's not an argument. The list keeps getting "quota" > questions. A smarter archiving mechanism is badly needed. And deeper > hierarchies, too. I want to have *one* Archive and then mail/news, and > then months, but also... What's not an argument? I never have to make the decision of what to keep. It's all kept. I'm saying that the problem you presented just doesn't exist for me. > >> -- At the same time, some lists do not require eternal archiving, so > >> it is necessary to provide some automatic expiration of archived > >> messages. The period of expiration needs to be settable for each > >> archive separately, and it must not apply to all saved messages. > DG> $300 gets you at least 1Gb of high quality scsi disk. gzip -9 > DG> helps wonderfully. I doubt any human is really reading enough > DG> mail to fill 1Gb of disk with compressed archives. Why make the > DG> decisions? You never know when you'll want a particular message. > DG> I've dug things out a year and a half later, and thanked myself > DG> that I just keep everything. > > Not a valid argument. I got 9 GB here, but that's not the point. With > pine, this amount of mail simply cannot be handled. I ended up tweaking > Apache to eat gz's and converted everything with MHonArc, with webglimpse > as search engine. Flashy, but it sucked like hell... Yes, this sucks like hell. You're not managing your data well -- if you break things up into individual messages you'll blow one of many limits on your filesystem (inodes, or just simply the directory scan time). This is why news spools are going to cyclic files instead of the hierarchy they've been for the past 15+ years. > >> Searching > >> -- The archives should be searchable: full text searches, and for > >> certain authors, subjects, dates, and other such criteria. One > >> often needs to refer to old correspondence, but finding it in > >> even a modest archive will be difficult, regardless of how it is > >> organized, unless there is some way to search it in addition to > >> just browsing it. > >> ** XEmacs -> Gnus -> igrep -> >KeWL< > > DG> On small archives, maybe. For something large the only solution is > DG> far more complicated, and should involve technology like glimpse. > DG> I occasionally long for this, but it's only once a month or so that > DG> I have to dig something out of long term compressed files. > > Not prob. Hook that into XEmacs - a friend of mine already did, and I > will RSN. Very good results on this side of the ocean. If you're willing to split things into individual files and suffer the performance/resource overhead of doing that then glimpse is trivial yes. > >> - People active on the Internet will need to subscribe and > >> unsubscribe to mailing lists all the time, and the mailer > >> should make this easy. For example, when subscribing, it > >> should offer to create a new folder and a filtering rule to > >> place everything from that mailing list to the new folder. > DG> I have a script "majorsub" which does all the magic required to > DG> subscribe me to a majordomo-style list, and set up the folder. > DG> Because I use subaddressing the "filter" is created implicitly and > DG> is never wrong. > > Could everybody have it? How about a "good ideas that Really Work(tm)" > page on the pine site? Sure, it's attached. I release it into the public domain. But it requires qmail subaddressing. > I don't like to jump around blindly amidst 200 or so messages, when it > might take a minute to open a folder. Gnus gives me the opportunity to > fetch just the headers if needed, and that's really fast. Oh try pine via IMAP with the server running on an efficient mail format ... headers only. It works OK over slow serial lines too (although I tunnel it via ssh with compression). > I see it just the other way around. Why not have a "I'm scared, give > me interactive help" and a "I'm a u*ix God, gimme all NOW" button? I > hated sitting there re-configuring pine after I lost one pinerc. One of pine's best features in my opinion is that it scales from the newbie up to the expert. The newbie doesn't even need to read anything before using it -- it's the mailer I always set up newbies with. > BTW, did you guys have a hard time quoting this mail? Pico must die > RSN... ]:-> Hehehe... I've never had pico flake out on me. I'm using vi at the moment however, which I usually do when I need to actually edit. pico is great for quick answers. Anything more than a half-dozen lines and I hit ^_. My number one feature request for pine is IMAP 4 disconnected support. A lot of the things you're arguing to be put into pine are things that I would always do on the server -- because I access mail from three locations IMAP is important to me. I'd have to ensure all the three pine configs agreed on filtering settings; which I know is possible, but I find it easier to let other things running on the server itself take care of the filtering. Dean --1053580162-1902649426-878074088=:1497 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=majorsub Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: IyEvYmluL3NoDQoNCmxpc3RuYW1lPSQxDQptYWpvcj0kMg0KDQppZiBbIC16 ICIkbGlzdG5hbWUiIC1vIC16ICIkbWFqb3IiIF07IHRoZW4NCiAgICBlY2hv ICJ1c2FnZTogJDAgbGlzdG5hbWUgbWFqb3Jkb21vQGhvc3QiDQogICAgZXhp dCAxOw0KZmkNCg0KY2QgJEhPTUUNCg0KbWtkaXIgJEhPTUUvbWFpbC9hcmMv JGxpc3RuYW1lDQoNCmNhdCA+LnFtYWlsLWxpc3QtJGxpc3RuYW1lIDw8RU9G DQouL21haWwvbGlzdHMvJGxpc3RuYW1lDQouL21haWwvYXJjLyRsaXN0bmFt ZS9jdXJyZW50DQpFT0YNCg0KL3Zhci9xbWFpbC9iaW4vcW1haWwtaW5qZWN0 IC1mIGRnYXVkZXQtbGlzdC0kbGlzdG5hbWVAYXJjdGljLm9yZyAkbWFqb3Ig PDxFT0YNCkZyb206IGRnYXVkZXQtbGlzdC0kbGlzdG5hbWVAYXJjdGljLm9y Zw0KVG86ICRtYWpvcg0KDQpzdWJzY3JpYmUgJGxpc3RuYW1lDQpFT0YNCg== --1053580162-1902649426-878074088=:1497-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:57:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA30341 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:57:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA00263; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:57:01 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id OAA13914; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:53:16 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id OAA30342 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:51:39 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id OAA27089 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:51:28 -0800 Received: from www.dcc.anahuac.mx (www.anahuac.mx [148.230.89.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id OAA06999 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 14:51:20 -0800 Received: from localhost by www.dcc.anahuac.mx (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA02883; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:50:55 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:50:54 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Maritza Reynoso To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: der45322@www X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hola! les mando este mail ya que no se muy bien como usar el pine y me gustaria que de ser posible, me manden mas informacion a cerca de como usarlo y de que significan cada uno de los comandos y para que sirven. Gracias. Atte Lizeth Reynoso From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:49:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA31297 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:49:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA08289; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:49:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA14883; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:44:05 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA16970 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:42:35 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA03788 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:42:13 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Oct 97 00:41:40 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id DAA00623; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:38:37 +0300 Message-Id: Date: 29 Oct 1997 01:38:34 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: FYI: L. Wirzenius's "much mail" page References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dean Gaudet X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> Regarding Re: FYI: L. Wirzenius's "much mail" page; Dean Gaudet >> adds: DG> On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Shoeless in San Jose wrote: Preface: I put Lars' stuff to discussion under the impression that pine was to be used by "the average user"... ;-) DG> On Sun, 26 Oct 1997, Shoeless in San Jose wrote: [important lists] DG> quit pine, and type "pico .pinerc". You'll find the list of DG> folders in there, quite easy to edit and order however you like. DG> My folders are prioritized this way. Mine were, too, but that's not "user friendly". (see preface) [archiving] DG> This is what crontab and shell scripts do quite well. If the sysop sets pine up this way, yes. [...] >> Dean Gaudet writes: DG> On 27 Oct 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: [handling large amounts of mail] DG> Try subaddressing. Filtering is a pain in the butt, I used to do DG> it. I used to have a 1000 line procmailrc. Same here. Modularized. Refined. Goldlisted. Not handlable. DG> Then I switched to qmail as my MTA and started using subaddressing DG> heavily. I'm not even using procmail at the moment. (You can do DG> subaddressing with sendmail+procmail by enabling procmail as the DG> local delivery agent... but I didn't find it as nice to use.) Yup. But that's not an end-user thing, is it? DG> I have no problem when 100 mails come in. They'll come in on my DG> lower priority folders typically. Unless it's a whack of cron DG> jobs finishing around the same time. But I can easily avoid the DG> busy folders when I need to. Sure, but that's not the point - unless (HELLO, FELLOW POSTMASTERS) we want to talk "how to make pine more usable for the end-user". That's what this list is supposed to be here for, lately. Anyone wanna join? >> As I said, that's out of the question for novice users, and too >> much hassle for me. Check XFmail and see what I mean. Pegasus-style >> filtering rules - >KeWL< for newbies. DG> How many newbies need to handle 500 messages per day? Not many, good point. But what about, say, 50? That's the err... crucial (?) amount of mail, when pine starts to be no longer usable. YMMV. >> >> Form letters DG> ^rform >> Not really. Cannot be done context-sensitively. As so many things >> in pine, this is a kluge. Works for some, but not for beginners - >> or non-u*ixers. DG> Oh fine then, hit |form and write a script called form which does DG> the context sensitive crap. ;-) Sure. You want to set that up for my 14 users? And explain it to them? >> >> Different sender addresses, signatures, etc >> Fine - will it be included? Pine isn't gpl'ed. I know and respect >> the reasons, but it's... not very satisfactory? DG> I don't understand what you're asking. Will that patch be DG> included in pine? No, I doubt it. It uses a qmail feature to DG> set the envelope from, because I couldn't be bothered to do it DG> in a way that works with sendmail. But isn't this the point of DG> having the source code? I think it is. Can I use the modified source in a commercial environment? What if the UoW decides to change their licence? This is purely hypothetical, and I'm not imposing they would, but that's a "business" decision - if you spent a lot of time (=money) to set up a site "for pine". DG> Furthermore, GPL is not a holy grail that all software must meet. DG> I'm one of the Apache devlopers. Apache is not GPL'd. GPL has DG> various limitations that can actually hinder its use; or hinder DG> the involvement of some developers. Apache is available under a DG> variant of the Berkeley license. Which is different from the pine licence. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I may distribute modified versions of Apache, may I not? Anyway, that's not the point (my point, that is) here. As I see it (and I don't subscribe to RSM's communists drivel), the GPL and similarly oriented licences promote the development of software. IMHO, the pine licence does it not in the same way. But that, again, is not the point here. Let's bury the licence discussion, shall we? [sigs and clickable urls] DG> It doesn't matter to me if folks have to construct my web page DG> address, or if they have to construct my email address. It takes DG> some basic skills, but those are skills that I haven't seen anyone DG> not pick up in 10 seconds. It's still hostile towards people who want to help on the internet. We've had this very same discussion here when Good Ole Bruce was desperately trying to understand sendmail so that he could forge his address. Sure I can disassemble a "nospam" address - but do I want to. Ultimately, the decision lies with the poster, but I will not condone this behaviour, nor will I encourage it by being polite or helpful. The point I was trying to make, though, was that pine could be a lot more user-friendly if it treated correct sigs in a sensible manner. [...] [archiving] DG> What's not an argument? I never have to make the decision of what DG> to keep. It's all kept. I'm saying that the problem you DG> presented just doesn't exist for me. That's *your* presonal view. The point *I* was trying to make was that Gnus' expiry mechanism is something pine should have. I don't expect an on-and-off user to understand archiving. If I tell her that all mail that isn't archived will be deleted after 2 weeks, she'll understand. [...] >> BTW, did you guys have a hard time quoting this mail? Pico must die >> RSN... ]:-> Hehehe... DG> I've never had pico flake out on me. I'm using vi at the moment DG> however, which I usually do when I need to actually edit. pico is DG> great for quick answers. Anything more than a half-dozen lines DG> and I hit ^_. Exquise me - but what's the advantage of pico over vi? It's not faster, and that's about the only thing I could ever think of if I were to say something positive about pico. You simply *cannot* yank the quotes I use properly with pico. Mine and some less fancy ones. I remember clearly cursing heavily when several people on one list I subscribed to as a newbie were using supercite. Pine needs a better editor, that's all I'm saying. I don't expect bells and whistles (actually, I quite like the way quotes from different posters get different colours here), but pine's editor should provide more in the yanking area than it currently does. DG> My number one feature request for pine is IMAP 4 disconnected support. DG> A lot of the things you're arguing to be put into pine are things that DG> I would always do on the server -- because I access mail from three DG> locations IMAP is important to me. I'd have to ensure all the three DG> pine configs agreed on filtering settings; which I know is possible, DG> but I find it easier to let other things running on the server itself DG> take care of the filtering. Yup. Who else does? ;-) Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University main(){printf(&unix["\021%six\012\0"],(unix)["have"]+"fun"-0x60);} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:51:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA31316 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA01407; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:51:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA15074; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:47:44 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA20752 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:46:30 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id PAA24988 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 15:46:27 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Oct 97 00:46:05 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id DAA00935; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 03:42:50 +0300 Message-Id: Date: 29 Oct 1997 03:42:49 +0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: none In-Reply-To: Maritza Reynoso's message of "Tue, 28 Oct 1997 16:50:54 -0600 (CST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Maritza Reynoso X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "MR" == Maritza Reynoso writes: MR> Hola! les mando este mail ya que no se muy bien como usar el pine MR> y me gustaria que de ser posible, me manden mas informacion a MR> cerca de como usarlo y de que significan cada uno de los comandos MR> y para que sirven. Gracias. Unless you know English, I don't think there's much in the help department for you. Try the UoW's pine website: Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Free Software: Contribute nothing, expect nothing From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:18:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA00631 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:18:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA10492; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:18:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA12837; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:15:41 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA19162 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:14:10 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA05319 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:14:08 -0800 Received: from bingsun1 (bingsun1.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA10405 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:14:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (bg18524@localhost) by bingsun1 (SMI-8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id UAA20331 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:13:54 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:13:53 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: bg18524@binghamton.edu To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: I have a problem with e-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: bg18524@bingsun1 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello. I am a student at Binghamton University. I am unable to receive e-mail over the pine system and I need this as a part of my studies (I get work for chemistry via e-mail). When I open the pine system it immediatly reads "mail box over quota." Under this it says "read above message andthen press return." I do this yet I still do not receive my mail. My mailbox is not full because I have emptied it out and I have 7 messages left in it. It is now Tuesday and I haven't received any new mail since Sunday. This is very distressing. I would greatly appreciate a reply as soon as possible so I can get my work again. Thank you very much, Alexandra Joseph (SB97littlegirl@juno.com, since I am unable to receive mail on my "bg18524@binghamton.edu address) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:28:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA00730 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:28:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id RAA10625; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:27:58 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id RAA13579; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:25:25 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id RAA47152 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:23:51 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id RAA09567 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 1997 17:23:48 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Oct 97 02:23:27 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id FAA03967; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:20:25 +0300 Message-Id: Date: 29 Oct 1997 05:20:24 +0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: I have a problem with e-mail In-Reply-To: bg18524@binghamton.edu's message of "Tue, 28 Oct 1997 20:13:53 -0500 (EST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: bg18524@binghamton.edu X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "b" == bg18524 writes: b> When I open the pine system it immediatly reads "mail box over b> quota." Under this it says "read above message andthen press b> return." You have a quota problem. If you're familiar with the system *cough* try saying: du ~/ and then rm all files/dirs that you don't need. Quota is something by which *all* your files are affected, not just your mail. If in doubt, consult your helpdesk or the local hardware store... Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Purity score 43.25% (purity 400) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:21:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA06435 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:20:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA10136; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:20:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA17554; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:19:06 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA33284 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:17:53 -0800 Received: from pump2.york.ac.uk (pump2.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.12]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA10102 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 01:17:52 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk (pmb1@tower.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.6]) by pump2.york.ac.uk (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA09262; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:16:27 GMT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 09:16:27 +0000 (GMT) Reply-To: Mike Brudenell Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Mike Brudenell To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: "New question" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "m.c. j. manuel haro hdz." X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hmmmm... SunOS 5.x is "really" Solaris 2.x. Hnece, if you check the doc/pine-ports file, you'll find the following "build codes:... gso Sun Solaris using gcc compiler ... sol Sun Solaris (see gso port) sun Sun SunOS 4.1 As you can see "sun" is for SunOS 4.1, whilst "sol" is for Solaris. However if you're using the GNU C compiler (gcc) you should instead use "gso". Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ * Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome at this e-mail address. * On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, m.c. j. manuel haro hdz. wrote: > Hello friends, especially Robin !!! > > We have a trouble: > Recently, we have tried to install Pine 3.96 > over a Sun ULTRA with SunOS 5.5.1 Generic. > > As we tried to compile the program, sow the next error messages: > > . > . > . > cd ../c-client;make > make:fatal error:don't know how to make target '../c-client/osdep.h' > current working directory/trabajo/pine/pine3.96/imap/non-ansi/ipopd > ***error code 1 > make: fatal error:command failed for target 'build' > . > . > . > current working directory/trabajo/pine/pine3.96/imap/'sun' > ***error code 1 > make:fatal error: command failed for target 'sun' > . > . > ./cmplh/p2.sh helptext.h > make:fatal error:command failed for target '/c-client/mail.h' > > > I hope that the group can help me. Couse we really need the mail in > function. The staff, the school and I, will be so gratefull. > > Hasta luego, amigos!! > > > xxxxxx > xx xx M.C. JOSE MANUEL HARO HERNANDEZ > xx xx jmharo@aguila.ita.mx > xxxx INSTITUTO TECNOLOGICO DE AGUASCALIENTES. AGS,MEXICO > xx xx Hidalgo 307 > xx xx Jesus Maria, Ags. > xx xx 91 496 50340 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:09:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA02860 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:09:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA10708; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:09:27 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id CAA18826; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:07:11 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id CAA19322 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:06:04 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA23779 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:06:03 -0800 Received: from www.zeto.olsztyn.pl (www.zeto.olsztyn.pl [195.116.26.68]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id CAA17775 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 02:05:58 -0800 Received: from tomekj.zeto.olsztyn.pl ([195.116.26.86]) by www.zeto.olsztyn.pl (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 164-33592U60) with ESMTP id AAA346 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:07:30 +0100 Message-Id: <19971029100730033.AAA346@tomekj.zeto.olsztyn.pl> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:07:16 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: mirekp@www.zeto.olsztyn.pl (Miroslaw Pietrzyk) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine for SCO Open Server 5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Good morning! 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Read it once! Read This Twice!! You will not believe how easy it is to make money !!! < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < You could make at least $50,000 - In less than 90 days Read the enclosed program . . . THEN READ IT AGAIN! ... < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < < Dear Friend, The enclosed information is something I almost let slip through my fingers. Fortunately, sometime later I reread everything and gave some thought and study to it. My name is Christopher Erickson. Two years ago, the corporation I worked at for the past twelve years downsized and they eliminated my position. After unproductive job interviews, I decided to open my own business. Over the past year, I incurred many unforeseen financial problems. I owed my family, friends, and creditors more than $35,000. The economy was taking a toll on my business and I just could not seem to make ends meet. I had to refinance and borrow against my home to support my family and struggling business. I truly believe it was wrong for me to be in debt like this. AT THAT MOMENT something significant happened in my life and I am writing to share my experience in hopes that this will change your life FOREVER . . . FINANCIALLY!!! In mid-December, I received this program via email. Six months before receiving this program I had been sending away for information on various business opportunities. All of the programs I received, in my opinion, were not cost effective. They were either too difficult for me to comprehend or the initial investment was too much for me to risk seeing if they worked or not. One claimed I had made a million dollars in one year . . . it didn't tell me I'd have to write a book to make it. But like I was saying, in December of '92 I received this program. I did not send for it, or ask for it, they just got my name off a mailing list. THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT!!! After reading it several times, to make sure I was reading it correctly, I could not believe my eyes. Here was a MONEY MAKING PHENOMENON. I could invest as much as I wanted to start, without putting me further in debt. After I got a pencil and paper and figured it out, I would at least get my money back. After determining that the program is LEGAL and NOT A CHAIN LETTER, I decided "WHY NOT." Initially I sent out 10,000 emails. It only cost me about $15.00 for my time on-line. The great thing about email is that I did not need any money for printing to send out the program, only the cost to fulfill my orders. I am telling you like it is, I hope it does not turn you off, but I promised myself that I would not "rip-off" anyone, no matter how much money it cost me. In less than one week, I was starting to receive orders for REPORT #1. By January 13th, I had received 26 orders for REPORT #1. When you read the GUARANTEE in the program, you will see that "YOU MUST RECEIVE 15 TO 20 ORDERS FOR REPORT #1 WITHIN TWO WEEKS. IF YOU DO NOT, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO!" My first step in making $50,000 in 20 to 90 days was done. By January 30th, I had received 196 orders for REPORT #2. If you go back to the GUARANTEE, "YOU MUST RECEIVE 100 OR MORE ORDERS FOR REPORT #2 WITHIN TWO WEEKS. IF NOT, SEND OUT MORE PROGRAMS UNTIL YOU DO. ONCE YOU HAVE 100 ORDERS, THE REST IS EASY, RELAX, YOU WILL MAKE YOUR $50,000 GOAL." Well, I had 196 orders for REPORT #2, 96 more than I needed. So I sat back and relaxed. By March 19th, of my emailing of 10,000, I received $58,000 with more coming in every day. I paid off ALL my debts and bought a much needed new car. Please take time to read the attached program. It WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE FOREVER! Remember, it will not work if you do not try it. This program does work, but you must follow it EXACTLY! Especially the rules of not trying to place your name in a different place. It doesn't work, you'll lose out on a lot of money! REPORT #2 explains this. Always follow the guarantee, 15 to 20 orders for REPORT #1, and 100 or more orders for REPORT #2. You will make $50,000 or more in 20 to 90 days. I AM LIVING PROOF THAT IT WORKS!!! If you choose not to participate in this program, I am sorry. It really is a great opportunity with little cost or risk to you. If you choose to participate, follow the program and you will be on your way to financial security. If you are a fellow business owner and you are in financial trouble like I was, or you want to start your own business, consider this a sign. I DID! Sincerely, Christopher Erickson PS Do you have any idea what 11,700 $5 bills ($58,500) look like piled up on a kitchen table? It is AWESOME! "THREW IT AWAY" "I had received this program before. I threw it away, but later wondered if I should not have given it a try. Of course, I had no idea who to contact to get a copy, so I had to wait until I was emailed another copy of the program. Eleven months passed, then it came. I DID NOT throw this one away. I made $41,000 on the first try." Dawn W., Evansville, IN "NO FREE LUNCH" "My late father always told me, remember, Alan, there is no free lunch in life. You get out of life what you put into it.' Through trial and error and a somewhat slow frustrating start, I finally figured it out. The program works very well. I just had to find the right target group of people to email it to. So far this year, I have made over $63,000 using this program. I know my dad would have been very proud of me." Alan B., Philadelphia, PA A PERSONAL NOTE FROM THE ORIGINATOR OF THIS PROGRAM By the time you have read the enclosed information and looked over the enclosed program and reports, you should have concluded that such a program, and one that is legal, could not have been created by an amateur. Let me tell you a little about myself. I had a profitable business for ten years. Then in 1979 my business began falling off. I was doing the same things that were previously successful for me, but it was not working. Finally, I figured it out. It was not me, it was the economy. Inflation and recession had replaced the stable economy that had been with us since 1945. I do not have to tell you what happened to the unemployment rate . . . because many of you know from first hand experience. There were more failures and bankruptcies than ever before. You have just received information that can give you FINANCIAL FREEDOM for the rest of your life, with "NO RISK" and "JUST A LITTLE BIT OF EFFORT." You can make more money in the next few months than you have ever imagined. I should also point out that I will not see a penny of your money, nor anyone else who has provided a testimonial for this program. I have already made more than FOUR MILLION DOLLARS! I have retired from the program after sending out more than 16,000 programs. Now I have several offices that market this and several other programs here in the US and overseas. By Spring, we wish to market the 'Internet' by a partnership with AMERICA ON LINE. Follow the program EXACTLY AS INSTRUCTED. Do not change it in any way. It works exceedingly well as it is now. Remember to email a copy of this exciting program to everyone that you can think of. One of the people you send this to may send out 50,000 . . . and your name will be on every one of them! . Remember though, the more you send out, the more potential customers you will reach. So my friend, I have given you the ideas, information, materials and opportunity to become financially independent, IT IS UP TO YOU NOW! "THINK ABOUT IT" Before you delete this program from your mailbox, as I almost did, take a little time to read it and REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. Get a pencil and figure out what could happen when YOU participate. Figure out the worst possible response and no matter how you calculate it, you will still make a lot of money! Definitely get back what you invested. Any doubts you have will vanish when your first orders come in. IT WORKS! Paul Johnson, Raleigh, NC HERE'S HOW THIS AMAZING PROGRAM WILL MAKE YOU $$$$$$ Let us say that you decide to start small, just to see how it goes. We will assume you and all those involved send out 2,000 programs each. Let us also assume that the mailing receives a .5% response. Using a good list, the response could be much better. Also, many people will send out hundreds of thousands of programs instead of 2,000. Nevertheless, continuing with this example, you send out only 2,000 programs. With a 5% response, that is only 10 orders for REPORT #1. Those 10 people respond by sending out 2,000 programs each for a total of 20,000. Out of those .5%, 100 people respond and order REPORT #2. Those 100 email out 2,000 programs each for a total of 200,000. The .5% response to that is 1,000 orders for REPORT #3. Those 1,000 send out 2,000 programs each for a total of 2,000,000. The .5% response to that is 10,000 orders for REPORT #4. That's 10,000 five dollar bills for you. CASH!!! Your total income in the example is $50 + $ 500 + $ 5,000 + $ 50,000 for a total of $55,000!!! REMEMBER FRIEND, THIS IS ASSUMING 1,900 OUT OF 2,000 PEOPLE YOU MAIL TO WILL DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING... AND TRASH THIS PROGRAM! DARE TO THINK FOR A MOMENT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF EVERYONE OR JUST « SENT OUT 100,000 PROGRAMS INSTEAD OF ONLY 2,000. Believe me, many people will do that and more! By the way, your cost to participate is practically nothing if you follow the program as it is outlined. You obviously already have an internet connection and email is FREE!!! REPORT #3 will show you the best methods for bulk emailing and purchasing email lists. THIS IS A LEGITIMATE, LEGAL, MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNITY. It does not require you to come into contact with people, do any hard work, and best of all, you never have to leave the house except to get your mail. If you believe that someday you will get that big break that you have been waiting for, THIS IS IT! Simply follow the instructions, and your dream will come true. This multi-level email order marketing program works perfectly... 100% EVERY TIME. Email is the sales tool of the future. Take advantage of this non-commercialized method of advertising NOW!! The longer you wait, the more people will be doing business using email. Get your piece of the pie!!! MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING (MLM) has finally gained respectability. It is being taught in the Harvard Business School, and both Stanford Research and The Wall Street Journal have stated that between 50% and 65% of all goods and services will be sold byMulti-Level methods by the mid to late 1990's. This is a Multi-Billion Dollar industry and of the 500,000 millionaires in the USA, 20% (100,000) made their fortune in the last several years in the MLM industry. Moreover, statistics show 45 people become millionaires everyday through Multi-Level Marketing. This is not a chain letter, but a perfectly legal money making opportunity. Basically, this is what we do: As with all multi-level business, we build our business by recruiting new partners and selling our products. Every state in the USA allows you to recruit new multi-level business partners, and we offer a product for EVERY dollar sent. YOUR ORDERS COME AND ARE FILLED THROUGH THE MAIL, so you are not involved in personal selling. You do it privately in your own home or office. This is the GREATEST Multi-Level Mail Order Marketing anywhere: Step (1) Order all four (4) REPORTS listed by NAME AND NUMBER. Do this by ordering the REPORT from each of the four (4) names listed on the next page. For each REPORT, send $5.00 cash and a SELF-ADDRESSED STAMPED ENVELOPE (BUSINESS SIZE # 10) to the person listed on that SPECIFIC REPORT. International orders should also include $1.00 extra for postage. It is essential that you specify the NAME and NUMBER of the REPORT requested tp the person you are ordering from. You will need ALL FOUR (4) REPORTS because you will be REPRINTING and RESELLING them. DO NOT alter the names or sequence other than what the instructions say. IMPORTANT: Always provide same day service on all orders. Step (2) Replace the name and address under REPORT #1 with your name, moving the one that was there down to REPORT #2. Drop the name and address under REPORT #2 TO REPORT #3, moving the one that was there to REPORT #4. The name and address that was under REPORT #4 is dropped from the list, and this party is no doubt on the way to the bank. When doing this make certain you type the names and addresses ACCURATELY! DO NOT MIX UP MOVING THE PRODUCT OR REPORT POSITIONS!!! Step (3) Having made the required changes in the NAME list, save it as a text (txt) file in it's own directory to be used with whatever email program you like. Again, REPORT #3 will tell you the best methods of BULK EMAILING and acquiring email lists. Step (4) Email a copy of the entire (all of this is very important) to everyone whose address you can get your hands on. Start with friends and relatives since you can encourage them to take advantage of this fabulous money-making opportunity. That's what I did. And they love me now, more than ever. Then email to anyone and everyone! Use your imagination! You can get email addresses from companies on the internet who specialize in email lists. Thes are very cheap, 100,000 addresses for around $35.00 IMPORTANT: You won't get a good response if you use an old list, so always request a FRESH, NEW LIST. You will find out where to purchase these lists when you order the four (4) REPORTS. ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME DAY SERVICE ON ALL ORDERS!!! REQUIRED REPORTS *** Order each REPORT by NUMBER and NAME*** ALWAYS SEND A SELF ADDRESSED, STAMPED ENVELOPE AND $5.00 CASH FOR EACH ORDER REQUESTING THE SPECIFIC REPORT BY NAME AND NUMBER!!! ____________________________________________________________________________ __ REPORT # 1 "HOW TO MAKE $250,000 THROUGH MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT #1 FROM; Excel Advertising GPO Box 71 TURRAMURRA NSW 2074 Australia Note: Add an extra $1 for return postage ____________________________________________________________________________ __ REPORT # 2 "MAJOR CORPORATIONS AND MULTI-LEVEL SALES" ORDER REPORT # 2 FROM: Jade Advertising #104-912 Southgate St Victoria, BC Canada V8V-2Y2 ____________________________________________________________________________ __ REPORT # 3 "SOURCES FOR THE BEST MAILING LISTS" ORDER REPORT # 3 FROM: Counselors for Personal Growth 420 E. 120th Ave., Unit B-2 # 185 Northglenn, CO 80233 ____________________________________________________________________________ __ REPORT # 4 "EVALUATING MULTI-LEVEL SALES PLANS" ORDER REPORT # 4 FROM: Super Growth Group P.O. Box 9006 Gaithersburg, MD 20898-9006 ____________________________________________________________________________ __ CONCLUSION I am enjoying my fortune that I made by sending out this program. You too, will be making money in 20 to 90 days, if you follow the SIMPLE STEPS outlined in this mailing. To be financially independent is to be FREE. Free to make financial decisions as never before. Go into business, get into investments, retire or take a vacation. No longer will a lack of money hold you back. However, very few people reach financial independence, because when opportunity knocks, they choose to ignore it. It is much easier to say "NO" than "YES", and this is the question that you must answer. Will YOU ignore this amazing opportunity or will you take advantage of it? If you do nothing, you have indeed missed something and nothing will change. Please re-read this material, this is a special opportunity. If you have any questions, please feel free to write to the sender of this information. You will get a prompt and informative reply. My method is simple. I sell thousands of people a product for $5.00 that costs me pennies to produce and email. I should also point out that this program is legal and everyone who participates WILL make money. This is not a chain letter or pyramid scam. At times you have probably received chain letters, asking you to send money, on faith, but getting NOTHING in return, NO product what-so-ever! Not only are chain letters illegal, but the risk of someone breaking the chain makes them quite unattractive. You are offering a legitimate product to your people. After they purchase the product from you, they reproduce more and resell them. It's simple free enterprise. As you learned from the enclosed material, the PRODUCT is a series of four 4 FINANCIAL AND BUSINESS REPORTS. The information contained in these REPORTS will not only help you in making your participation in this program more rewarding, but will be useful to you in any other business decisions you make in the years ahead. You are also buying the rights to reprint all of the REPORTS, which will be ordered from you by those to whom you mail this program. The concise one and two page REPORTS you will be buying can easily be reproduced at a local copy center for a cost of about 5 cents a copy. Best wishes with the program and Good Luck! "IT WAS TRULY AMAZING" "Not being the gambling type, it took me several weeks to make up my mind to participate in this program. But conservative as I am, I decided that the initial investment was so little that there was no way that I could not get enough orders to at least get my money back. BOY, was I ever surprised when I found my medium sized post office box crammed with orders! I will make more money this year than any ten years of my life before." Mary Riceland, Lansing, MI TIPS FOR SUCCESS Send for your four 4 REPORTS immediately so you will have them when the orders start coming in. When you receive a order, you MUST send out the product/service to comply with US Postal and Lottery laws. Title 18 Sections 1302 and 1341 specifically state that: "A PRODUCT OR SERVICE MUST BE EXCHANGED FOR MONEY RECEIVED." WHILE YOU WAIT FOR THE REPORTS TO ARRIVE: 1. Name your new company. You can use your own name if you desire. 2. Get a post office box (preferred). 3. Edit the names and addresses on the program. You must remember,your name and address go next to REPORT # 1, and all the others move down one, with the fourth one being bumped OFF the list. 4. Obtain as many email addresses as possible to send until you receive the information on mailing list companies in REPORT#3. 5. Decide on the number of programs you intend to send out. The more you send, and the quicker you send them, the more money you will make. 6. After mailing the programs, get ready to fill the orders. 7. Copy the four 4 REPORTS so you are able to send them out as soon as you receive an order. IMPORTANT: ALWAYS PROVIDE SAME-DAY SERVICE ON ALL THE ORDERS YOU RECEIVE! 8. Make certain the letter and reports are neat and legible. YOUR GUARANTEE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:15:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA10574 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:15:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA20175; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:15:26 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA23079; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:11:56 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA30780 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:10:39 -0800 Received: from beasley.cisco.com (mailgate-sj-2.cisco.com [171.69.2.135]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA28779 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:10:38 -0800 Received: from proxy4.cisco.com (proxy4.cisco.com [209.48.178.71]) by beasley.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/CISCO.GATE.1.1) with ESMTP id FAA13061; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from smap@localhost) by proxy4.cisco.com (8.8.7/8.8.5) id FAA17736; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dhcp-rtp-hardwood-3rd-206.cisco.com(171.68.113.206) by proxy4.cisco.com via smap (V2.0) id xma017734; Wed, 29 Oct 97 13:10:01 GMT Message-Id: <3457359A.16E40E98@cisco.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:09:47 -0500 Reply-To: katzman@cisco.com Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "David A. Katz" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: MIME MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@u.washington.edu, katzman@cisco.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello: I get emails that have attached files that are encoded. The encoding looks like this: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ------------- begin 644 rtriso01.doc MT,/1X*&Q&N$''''''''''''' etc etc etc Does anyone know how to easily decode such an attachment with Pine? thanks, Dave Katz katzman@cisco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:28:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA10666 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:28:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA20320; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:28:49 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id FAA15531; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:25:23 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id FAA51318 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:24:07 -0800 Received: from pnp03.pnp.co.za (firewall-user@pnp03.pnp.co.za [196.7.191.18]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id FAA20805 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 05:24:01 -0800 Received: by pnp03.pnp.co.za; id PAA15479; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:23:33 +0200 (SAT) Received: from pnp16.pnp.co.za(150.1.100.24) by pnp03.pnp.co.za via smap (V3.1.1) id xma015477; Wed, 29 Oct 97 15:23:23 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:23:24 +0200 (SAST) Reply-To: Malcolm Florence Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Malcolm Florence To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: MIME In-Reply-To: <3457359A.16E40E98@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: katzman@Cisco.COM X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, David A. Katz wrote: > Hello: I get emails that have attached files that are encoded. The > encoding looks like this: > > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > > ------------- > > begin 644 rtriso01.doc > MT,/1X*&Q&N$''''''''''''' > etc etc etc > > Does anyone know how to easily decode such an attachment with Pine? > > thanks, > Dave Katz > katzman@cisco.com > > Hi Dave. As far as I know, pine doesn't handle this type of decoding. If you are using a unix system, try uudecode or there is a utility that has versions for dos and unix called uudeview/uuenview. There are probably others like this but one of these should do the trick. Hope this helps. Malcolm (malcolm@pnp.co.za) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:02:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA12393 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:02:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA22618; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:02:23 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id HAA03909; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:57:25 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id HAA23974 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:55:26 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id HAA14124 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:55:24 -0800 Received: from alpha.delta.edu (alpha.delta.edu [161.133.129.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id HAA22493 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 07:55:20 -0800 Received: from localhost by alpha.delta.edu; (5.65v3.0/1.1.8.2/06Jan97-0932AM) id AA27364; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:56:51 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 10:56:51 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Michael J Mcquaid To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sending a quick note to see if my ispell is working? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: univofwashington X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, To the pine-info team. I am trying to set the speller check in my pine configuration, and sent a short message to see if it will invoke with my current settings? Thank You, Mike ...it worked... thanks again!!! Michael J Mcquaid, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:21:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA12652 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:21:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA16007; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:21:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id IAA29231; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:15:42 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id IAA38308 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:12:58 -0800 Received: from mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA (pinevers@mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA [130.113.20.6]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id IAA04217 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 08:12:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (pinevers@localhost) by mcmail.CIS.McMaster.CA (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA13766; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:12:37 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 11:12:37 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Pine Versions To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: MIME In-Reply-To: <3457359A.16E40E98@cisco.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-758783491-878141557=:17104" X-To: katzman@cisco.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-758783491-878141557=:17104 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dave I have included in the above attachment a helpsheet on how to use uuencode and uudecode. It is meant for our Unix machines, but maybe it will help you. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jessie Kleefstra E-Mail:kleefstr@offsv1.cis.mcmaster.ca Consultant, Helpdesk Services helpline@mcmaster.ca Computing & Information Services Phone: (905) 525-9140 ext. 24357 ABB-132 Fax: (905) 528-3773 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Wed, 29 Oct 1997, David A. Katz wrote: > Hello: I get emails that have attached files that are encoded. 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0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:27:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA22830 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:27:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA03426; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:27:37 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA08811; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:25:04 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA48816 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:22:26 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA27014 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:22:25 -0800 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA25792 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:22:22 -0800 Received: from dante07.u.washington.edu (imdaman@dante07.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.9]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA36912 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:22:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (imdaman@localhost) by dante07.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.04) with SMTP id PAA55038 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:22:18 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:22:18 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "J. Miller" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How do you fake email with pine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I need this for a project. Please email back the answer Answer Man. -Miller From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:57:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA23203 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:57:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA04041; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:57:24 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id PAA10904; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:53:43 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id PAA52130 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:52:23 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA00177 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:52:19 -0800 Received: from konza.flinthills.com (root@konza.flinthills.com [199.240.127.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id PAA03940 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 15:52:16 -0800 Received: from konza.flinthills.com (a327.flinthills.com [199.240.126.158]) by konza.flinthills.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA04800 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 17:52:11 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <199710292352.RAA04800@konza.flinthills.com> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 17:59:27 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "pete" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: search MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi. I'm looking for an old friend of mind from Cinncinatti, Ohio and I haven't been able to find him or at least get a phone number. please lead me in the right direction. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:58:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA26614 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:58:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA08369; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:58:00 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA28227; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:56:26 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA33346 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:54:00 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA21451 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:53:59 -0800 Received: from inet.lasierra.edu (inet.lasierra.edu [192.156.214.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA00661 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:53:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (toddcoop@localhost) by inet.lasierra.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA25948 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:54:56 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 19:54:56 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Todd Cooper To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: How to get out of read-only mode MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yesterday, I was stuck in Pine and so I turned off the computer in frustration not thinking of it. However when I went back in, it said "Trying to get mailbox lock for process 16507. Mailbox is open by another process. Access is read-only" Now I can't delete my mail and the mailbox is filling up quickly. Can you tell me what to do to rectify this situation? Sincerely, Todd Cooper From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:44:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA27578 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA02131; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:44:44 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA03024; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:43:25 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA18948 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:41:21 -0800 Received: from elf.ecitele.com (sprite1.ecitele.com [147.234.56.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id VAA10802 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:41:16 -0800 Received: from vega (vega.ecitele.com [147.234.19.70]) by elf.ecitele.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id HAA15113 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:39:06 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 07:39:22 +0200 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Yossi Itzkovich To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Recieving/reading confirmation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: iyossi@vega X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I saw that XFMail users can get: 1. Recieving reciept (the mail got to it's destination) and/or 2. Reading (opening) reciept ( the mail was read/opened). of the mail that they send. Is it possible in Pine too? Thanks, Yossi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:48:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA27728 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA02170; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:48:05 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA08170; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:45:22 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id VAA48784 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:43:04 -0800 Received: from bay2.bjt.net (root@bay2.bjt.net [207.201.6.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA28813 for ; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:43:02 -0800 Received: from gateway1 (kstevens@ppp-206-170-4-205.wnck11.pacbell.net [206.170.4.205]) by bay2.bjt.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA14884; Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:36:08 -0800 Message-Id: <01bce4f6$86283140$cd04aace@gateway1> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 1997 21:41:52 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Ken Stevens" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: How to get out of read-only mode MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Todd Cooper" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Assuming you are using a shell account with pine do the following steps. mail 1 pre * quit Pine should function again properly. Ken -----Original Message----- From: Todd Cooper To: Pine Discussion Forum Date: Wednesday, October 29, 1997 7:55 PM Subject: How to get out of read-only mode > > Yesterday, I was stuck in Pine and so I turned off the computer in >frustration not thinking of it. However when I went back in, it said >"Trying to get mailbox lock for process 16507. Mailbox is open by another >process. Access is read-only" Now I can't delete my mail and the mailbox >is filling up quickly. Can you tell me what to do to rectify this >situation? 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------=_NextPart_000_0002_01BCE554.68745800-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:38:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA00764 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:38:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA08365; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:38:16 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id GAA24816; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:36:06 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id GAA18046 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:34:29 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA23860 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:34:28 -0800 Received: from vega.gsfc.nasa.gov (vega.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.201.85]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id GAA15947 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 06:34:25 -0800 Received: from localhost by vega.gsfc.nasa.gov; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:34:17 GMT Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 14:34:17 +0000 (UT ) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Ed Himwich To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Backgorund sending Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On UNIX PINE seems to wait for sendmail to return before letting you do something else. This causes a real long delay for long mailing lists involving many far away addresses. "enable-background-sending" provides some relief for this, but you still can't compose (or do anything that involves an implicit compose) until sendmail is done. Is there a way around this? Thanks, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:25:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA06957 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA16144; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:25:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id MAA22803; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:21:54 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id MAA18962 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:19:34 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id MAA17986 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:19:05 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (hubert@localhost) by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id MAA00904 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:18:22 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 12:18:21 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Steve Hubert To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Backgorund sending In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN One solution that works pretty well is to use a fast SMTP server. For example, you might have an SMTP server that does nothing but accept the submission and relay it to another "smarter" SMTP server for delivery, or somehow processes it separately for delivery. This allows you to avoid the waits for DNS lookups that are typically being done by sendmail for each RCPT command. One difference that users will see is that addressing errors won't be noticed by the initial SMTP server so there is no immediate interactive feedback for mistyped domain names, for example. Instead, the error will come back in a mail message from the second stage of processing. Some people consider this an advantage. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Ed Himwich wrote: > On UNIX PINE seems to wait for sendmail to return before letting you do > something else. This causes a real long delay for long mailing lists > involving many far away addresses. "enable-background-sending" provides > some relief for this, but you still can't compose (or do anything that > involves an implicit compose) until sendmail is done. Is there a way > around this? > > Thanks, Ed > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:47:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA15168 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:47:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA25370; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:47:02 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA24287; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:45:07 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA28496 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:43:07 -0800 Received: from uxmail.ust.hk (uxmail.ust.hk [143.89.14.30]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA08340 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:43:00 -0800 Received: from ccsu8.ust.hk ([143.89.103.5]) by uxmail.ust.hk with SMTP id <626959-3675>; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:42:35 +0800 Received: from localhost by ccsu8.ust.hk (4.1//ident-1.0) id AA19684; Fri, 31 Oct 97 11:42:23 HKT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:42:22 +0800 (HKT) Reply-To: Patrick Leung Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Patrick Leung To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: forwarded email as MIME attachment Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: Patrick Leung X-Sender: ccpleung@ccsu8.ust.hk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I received more and more email messages forwarded to me as MIME attchment (in particular, forward from Netscape Mail). When I tried to view it from Pine Attachment Index menu, I can't find an option to display the full header of the attached mail. I am using Pine3.95. Will Pine3.96 work? Or, Pine4.0 when it is available? Thank ahead for your advise. Regards, Patrick Leung From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:54:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA15264 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:54:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA25466; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:54:38 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id TAA24657; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:53:02 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id TAA36824 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:51:38 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA09047 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:51:36 -0800 Received: from listserv.oit.unc.edu (listserv.oit.unc.edu [152.2.25.17]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id TAA25434 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 19:51:34 -0800 Received: from NO-IDENT-SERVICE@login0.isis.unc.edu (port 1927 [152.2.25.130]) by listserv.oit.unc.edu with ESMTP id <91875-23360>; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:51:13 -0500 Received: by email.unc.edu id <63521-168158>; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:51:06 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 22:51:04 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Charleigh Barr To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Need help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Charleigh Barr X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: cbarr1@login0.isis.unc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My server says that my mail box no longer exists. Why did this happen and what do I need to do to fix this? Please let me know what I can do. Thank you Charleigh Barr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:31:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA15827 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA26061; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:31:11 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA26422; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:29:35 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA28428 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:28:15 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA11770 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:28:14 -0800 Received: from listserv.oit.unc.edu (listserv.oit.unc.edu [152.2.25.17]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA03766 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 20:28:10 -0800 Received: from root@login1.isis.unc.edu (port 2187 [152.2.25.131]) by listserv.oit.unc.edu with ESMTP id <92512-23360>; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 23:27:35 -0500 Received: by email.unc.edu id <15379-4812>; Thu, 30 Oct 1997 23:27:33 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 23:27:31 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Annette Dismuke To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Mailbox does not exist MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: Annette Dismuke X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: dismuke@login1.isis.unc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I can not retrieve any messages in my INBOX. I logged on successfully earlier today, but now when I try to view new messages, the message on the bottom of the screen says "Mailbox does not exist." How can I fix this? Annette Dismuke UNC-CH From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 01:20:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA18516 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 01:20:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id BAA29302; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 01:20:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id BAA06032; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 01:18:37 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id BAA14054 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 01:17:07 -0800 Received: from notes.ima.com (notes.ima.com [202.75.0.49]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id BAA29272 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 01:17:03 -0800 Received: from Lotus Notes by notes.ima.com (IMA Internet Exchange 3.0 Enterprise Beta 3) id 00031A07; Fri, 31 Oct 97 17:18:49 +0800 Message-Id: <00031A07.eval@ima.com> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 01:17:36 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: leizaola@ima.com (Maren S. Leizaola) To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: MIME Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Memo X-Cc: katzman@cisco.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dave, This is a most excellent question. To my knowledge PC Pine will not handle UUENCODING type attachments.... full stop. Not even our Internet Exchange should be able to do this recursive decoding of attachments using different encoding methods. When the IETF (MIME WG) where "argueing" it out about permitting that UUENCODE was a MIME . It was outright rejected on the grounds that MIME was the new way to go and everyone should ditch their UUENCODING method and should go to MIME. Unfortunately this was very short sited and it did not happen. As every single UNIX box on the Internet box on the net has UUENCODE tools and very very few MIME tools, plus there is a tonne of cruddy gateways or clients that only do UUENCODING. Hence this is not a supported mime time. The message sent to you is firstly defined as a 7 bit MIME encoding (no encoding actually) encapsulating a UUENCODED file which is actually containting and 7 or 8 bit file, most likely 8. The person that sent you this did exactly what the guys designing MIME did not agree to. :) Regards, Maren. leizaola@ima.com PS. To the guys developing Pine and IMAP. I love Pine and PC-Pine... I wish I could use the IMAP over long distance or low bandwidth connections but it stalls too much. P.P.S. It would be good if instead of adding more bells and whistles to Pine that you focus on reducing its memory consumption. I think that would win you a International Hero status on the Internet. Do you guys have shares in the semiconductors (RAM) industry NEC/Motorola/Ti ? :) P.P.P.S. Is Cyrus IMAP also RAM guzzling IMAP implentation? --------------------- Hello: I get emails that have attached files that are encoded. The encoding looks like this: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ------------- begin 644 rtriso01.doc MT,/1X*&Q&N$''''''''''''' etc etc etc Does anyone know how to easily decode such an attachment with Pine? thanks, Dave Katz katzman@cisco.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 03:21:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA13626 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 03:21:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id DAA00773; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 03:21:41 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id DAA11239; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 03:18:54 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id DAA30834 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 03:16:29 -0800 Received: from kanin.arnes.si (kanin.arnes.si [193.2.1.66]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id DAA03646 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 03:16:25 -0800 Received: from razor.arnes.si by kanin.arnes.si with SMTP using DNS (PP) id <08092-0@kanin.arnes.si>; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:16:15 +0100 Received: from Alpha (ssdipola@ppp9-ms2.arnes.si [193.2.32.209]) by razor.arnes.si (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA19634; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:15:43 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 12:17:23 +0100 (MET) Reply-To: Iztok Polanic Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Iztok Polanic To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Backgorund sending In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Himwich X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ssdipola@Alpha X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello !!! I couldn't find any command in pine, but you have reconfigure sendmail, that he will store his mails in his box and then he will send them after a while! Bye. On Thu, 30 Oct 1997, Ed Himwich wrote: > On UNIX PINE seems to wait for sendmail to return before letting you do > something else. This causes a real long delay for long mailing lists > involving many far away addresses. "enable-background-sending" provides > some relief for this, but you still can't compose (or do anything that > involves an implicit compose) until sendmail is done. Is there a way > around this? > > Thanks, Ed > > > xxxxxx ////// xx xx ( o o ) xx xx /------------oOO-----O-----OOo------------\ xxxx | From: Iztok Polanic | xx xx | E-mail: Iztok.Polanic1@guest.arnes.si | xx xx | WWW: http://www2.arnes.si/~ssdipola | xx xx \-----------------------------------------/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:06:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA20744 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA01423; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:06:40 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA09861; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:05:31 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA30594 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:03:52 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA05214 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:03:50 -0800 Received: from Relay1.dnt.ro (root@ns.dnt.ro [193.226.100.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA01263 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:03:38 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by Relay1.dnt.ro (8.8.5/8.8.5) with UUCP id NAA30346 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:24:22 +0200 Received: from localhost (vm@localhost) by lbpt.sfos.ro (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA10293 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:15:46 GMT Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:15:46 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Inter 13 SRL." To: "Pine Discussion Forum" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN How do I know when I get a message (mail) ? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:34:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA21443 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA09439; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:33:54 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id EAA12745; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:30:44 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id EAA30520 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:29:23 -0800 Received: from bloodgore.ipr-o.de (robin@ws-08.ipr-o.de [194.97.171.121]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id EAA17004 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 04:29:19 -0800 Received: (from robin@localhost) by bloodgore.ipr-o.de (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA19772; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:28:26 +0100 Message-Id: Date: 31 Oct 1997 13:28:23 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: none In-Reply-To: "Inter 13 SRL."'s message of "Fri, 31 Oct 1997 14:15:46 +0000 (GMT)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.108) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Inter 13 SRL." X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-URL: http://franck.pc.uni-koeln.de/~robin X-PGP-Fingerprint: 7F F2 84 73 CF E9 2C 92 F6 6E F9 B4 8F FE AC 1E X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "I1S" == Inter 13 SRL writes: I1S> How do I know when I get a message (mail) ? Try putting something in one of your init files that does just that. Since you're on a Linux system, try saying "man biff" for example. Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. We are Pentium of Borg. Division is futile. You will be approximated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:33:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA25096 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:33:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists.u.washington.edu (root@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA14453; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:33:34 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA29448; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:29:18 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA26230 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:26:20 -0800 Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA15267 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:25:52 -0800 Received: from muddog_cac.cac.washington.edu (D-140-142-110-31.dhcp.washington.edu [140.142.110.31]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id JAA11660; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:25:00 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:26:34 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Reply-To: Terry Gray Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Terry Gray To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: memory (was: MIME) In-Reply-To: <00031A07.eval@ima.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Maren S. Leizaola" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@shivams.cac.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 31 Oct 1997, Maren S. Leizaola wrote: > PS. To the guys developing Pine and IMAP. I love Pine and PC-Pine... > I wish I could use the IMAP over long distance or low bandwidth > connections but it stalls too much. Maren, if you'd separately send me some more info on your experiences, I'd be grateful. (e.g. "stalls" = gets slow, or breaks connection, or ...) My experience over slow, high-latency links has been a bit better, but there is still room for tuning. > P.P.S. It would be good if instead of adding more bells and whistles > to Pine that you focus on reducing its memory consumption. > I think that would win you a International Hero status on the Internet. Most of the memory use issue concerns the c-client driver for the particular mailbox format you use. In the past, the mailbox driver for the defacto std Unix mailbox format read everything into virtual memory. On some systems this is good, on other systems it is bad. Sometimes very bad. So now in the latest toolkit there is a driver that uses a temp file for this format instead. I think you can get an imapd with this driver in the imap.tar.Z distribution on ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail Another alternative is to use a different mailbox format, as Cyrus does, such as "mbx". But this implies that all access will be via IMAP or POP. > Do you guys have shares in the semiconductors > (RAM) industry NEC/Motorola/Ti ? :) If so, the strategy isn't working, 'cause I aint rich :) > P.P.P.S. Is Cyrus IMAP also RAM guzzling IMAP implentation? See above. -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:43:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA24229 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA06938; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:43:09 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id JAA02120; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:39:14 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id JAA36888 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:37:26 -0800 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA13317 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:36:57 -0800 Received: from jaguar.datacomm.com (root@jaguar.datacomm.com [205.147.65.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id JAA06225; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:16:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (AbacusAFK@jagppp0.datacomm.com [205.147.65.65]) by jaguar.datacomm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA11505; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:16:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:16:22 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: "ted.rolle" Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "ted.rolle" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Sug (ID 4T6JN): Incorrect return address. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Developers X-Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Sender: ted@localhost X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine 3.95 apparently uses the logon id instead of the personal-name for the return address. This is a problem for me. An example: my logon id is "ted"; my personal-name is "ted.rolle"; the local-domain is "usa.net". What I need is for the return address to be "ted.rolle@usa.net"; instead, it forms "ted@usa.net" -- another, wholly-different person who really exists. Is there a work-around? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:07:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA27044 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:07:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA16907; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:07:31 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA07781; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:03:35 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA25504 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:00:14 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id KAA26722 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:59:31 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 31 Oct 97 19:58:51 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id WAA30857; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 22:53:20 +0300 Message-Id: Date: 31 Oct 1997 22:53:19 +0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: Sug (ID 4T6JN): Incorrect return address. In-Reply-To: "ted.rolle"'s message of "Fri, 31 Oct 1997 09:16:22 -0800 (PST)" References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "ted.rolle" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "tr" == ted rolle writes: tr> Pine 3.95 apparently uses the logon id instead of the tr> personal-name for the return address. This is a problem for me. [...] tr> Is there a work-around? This falls into the category "questions he'd not be asking if he'd read the netiquette"... *sigh* Yes, there's a way, yes, you need to recompile pine, no, I won't tell you how. Hehe... }:-> Happy reading (tech-notes recommended). Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:10:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA27098 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:10:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA08993; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:10:25 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA09733; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:05:11 -0800 Received: from mx2.u.washington.edu (mx2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA11952 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:00:45 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mx2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA07868 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:00:15 -0800 Received: from mta2.gte.net (mta2.gte.net [207.115.153.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id KAA16712 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:59:26 -0800 Received: from smtp2.mailsrvcs.net ([192.168.129.31]) by mta2.gte.net (Intermail v3.1 117 223) with ESMTP id <19971031190353.GYRQ18656@smtp2.mailsrvcs.net>; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:03:53 -0600 Received: from 207.175.238.49 (calnet15-49.gtecablemodem.com [207.175.238.49]) by smtp2.mailsrvcs.net with SMTP id NAA10057; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:03:52 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3459BA25.58E1@gte.net> Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:59:53 +0000 Reply-To: dan2@gte.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Dan To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: e-mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: dan2@gte.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have been searching for an answer and have not had any luck. I am hoping you might be able to help me. I have been trying to send images using Netscape from my mac to a PC. I have saved them in Tiff, jpeg, gif. I don't seem to have any luck. When I attatch the file on my end the PC gets two file (ie. 1.2 and 1.2.1) and if a picture shows up it is black and white with lines accross it. I can't seem to find any encoding preferences in Netscape and I am baffled. I appreciate it if anyone had an answer. Dan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:28:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA27459 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id LAA09498; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:28:35 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id LAA09887; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:25:58 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id LAA31204 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:22:17 -0800 Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id LAA16483 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 11:21:46 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 31 Oct 97 20:21:15 MEZ Received: (from uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) id XAA31550; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 23:18:18 +0300 Message-Id: Date: 31 Oct 1997 23:18:18 +0300 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Re: e-mail In-Reply-To: Dan's message of "Fri, 31 Oct 1997 10:59:53 +0000" References: <3459BA25.58E1@gte.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-To: dan2@gte.net X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >> "D" == Dan writes: D> I have been trying to send images using Netscape from my mac to a D> PC. [...] I appreciate it if anyone had an answer. JWZ -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Political Science Dept., Bonn University Vidi, vici, veni From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:27:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA29870 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:27:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id NAA12457; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:26:55 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id NAA21693; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:20:05 -0800 Received: from mx3.u.washington.edu (mx3.u.washington.edu [140.142.13.230]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id NAA33546 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:17:54 -0800 Received: from webster (webster.vetri.com [198.153.135.140]) by mx3.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with SMTP id NAA12874 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 13:17:51 -0800 Received: from tacom by webster (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA02313; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:18:28 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Oct 1997 16:21:02 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Shawn Jeffries To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: question about pine.conf (take 2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: ujefsh81@tacom X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hey Guys, I am at a company that has a number of SUN SPARC and Solaris machines running NIS. I want to be able to set up the global pine config files such that no matter which machine anyone logs into, they all use the same pine.conf . The program seems to only look in /usr/local/lib/ for those, but this location is a problem for two reasons. One, we'd have to install the global files on each machine, and two, our 4.1.3 machines don't even have that directory. The PC-PINE version can take the 'PINECONF' variable , is there an equivalent for Unix ? Maybe some other solution I can't see? I really appreciate the help and quick response! Shawn M. Jeffries shawn_jeffries@vetri.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:24:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA03984 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA20892; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:24:42 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA17233; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:22:48 -0800 Received: from mx4.u.washington.edu (mx4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA50692 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:21:24 -0800 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx4.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA14814 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:21:22 -0800 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id AAA09500 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:51:21 -0330 (NST) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.3) id AAA06308; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:51:20 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 00:51:20 -0330 (NST) Reply-To: Andrew Vardy Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: any chance? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Any chance that I can go to Web pages from Pine?? How do people follow sig. files? After all, it surely can't be true that people will use Unix programs over Netscape, and willingly give up the ability to follow links given in e-mail, eh?! Many mailing lists users provide a plethora of Web page references, which I guess can be followed at any time from one Click, from GUIs. I cannot by any means follow a fraction of these http references given to quickly check a page, without wasting a vast amount of time. Who is going to type in the long ones Lynx htpp://..../..../...../..../..../.../~someone/blahblah ? People must follow sig.'s with a person's homepage given. Or do people who spurn GUIs simply provide these things for decoration? Like holiday apples: they look nice, but dig your teeth into them, and find them most decidedly and plastically inedible. Can Pine at least type Lynx ... for me? And by the way, I'm not talking about Pine attachments which are text/html. I don't know how that works either, but that is not such a concern. Just plain links in text. One note as well, 40% of mailing list messages I encounter daily contain 1 or 2 http references on average, and rarely, a whole list of references. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:44:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA04252 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:44:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA21161; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:44:08 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id UAA18411; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:42:02 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA18842 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:40:38 -0800 Received: from piva.ucs.mun.ca (piva.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.63]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA07194 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:40:37 -0800 Received: from plato.ucs.mun.ca (root@plato.ucs.mun.ca [134.153.2.151]) by piva.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id BAA31779 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 01:10:30 -0330 (NST) Received: (from avardy@localhost) by plato.ucs.mun.ca (8.8.7/8.8.3) id BAA28093; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 01:10:30 -0330 (NST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 01:10:29 -0330 (NST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Andrew Vardy To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: any chance? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: avardy@plato.ucs.mun.ca X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Here is a great example of what I mean. (just to show that references abound.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> "WMS" == William M Sherman writes: WMS> Hello, Is it possible to make Pine automatically put incoming WMS> mail from a certain address in a folder? That's a faq. The answer is no. WMS> If not, are there any UNIX gurus who know how to do this? Yes, but it involves third party filtering software. Check Nancy McGough's filtering faq: WMS> Thanks...please reply to wms@hops.cs.jhu.edu You can write in the news, you can read there... Anyway: Cc'd... Cheers, Robin -- Robin S. Socha M.A. Dijkstra probably hates me (Linus Torvalds, in kernel/sched.c) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(5) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:02:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA04466 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:02:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists2.u.washington.edu (root@lists2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id VAA29585; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:02:10 -0800 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with SMTP id VAA19248; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 21:00:47 -0800 Received: from mx5.u.washington.edu (mx5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.05) with ESMTP id UAA45530 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:59:46 -0800 Received: from corellia.piett.com (piett@h67.ryd.student.liu.se [130.236.239.67]) by mx5.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW97.07/8.8.4+UW97.09) with ESMTP id UAA08180 for ; Fri, 31 Oct 1997 20:59:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (piett@localhost) by corellia.piett.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id FAA00790 for ; Sat, 1 Nov 1997 05:59:41 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 1 Nov 1997 05:59:41 +0100 (MET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk From: Henrik Edlund To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Subject: Pine 4 ??? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 beta -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Anyone have any info on when Pine 4 is due? -------------------------------------------------- Henrik Edlund Piett Productions piett@piett.com http://www.piett.com/ "They were in the wrong place at the wrong time. Naturally they became heroes." Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator --------------------------------------------------