From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 1 00:38:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27721; Mon, 1 Jan 96 00:38:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16524; Mon, 1 Jan 96 00:31:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from peach.epix.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16518; Mon, 1 Jan 96 00:31:45 -0800 Received: (jgvd@localhost) by peach.epix.net (8.6.10/950112.08ccg) id DAA07462; Mon, 1 Jan 1996 03:31:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 03:31:45 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan, John, & Carol" To: Nico van der Horn Cc: Jonathan and DearOldDad , The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Addressbook fcc-value ignored with reply In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 30 Dec 1995, Nico van der Horn wrote: > On 30 Dec 1995, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > > Nico van der Horn (nico@vanderhorn.nl) wrote: > > : I just discovered that when I reply to a user that is in my addressbook > > : with appropriate fcc value, the copy will be done to a folder with the > > : same name as the loginname of the recipient. > > : Can this be changed by configuration or is it not possible ? > > Not sure what you mean by 'appropriate fcc value' but you can fcc to any > > folder name you wish, does NOT have to go to a folder with the > > recipient's login name, but apparently that's the way you set up your > > fcc's. For example, I correspond with 6 or 7 people about golf related > > topics, and fcc all of that to a folder named saved-golf-stuff. It > > sounds like what you did is change the fcc in Config Setup to recipient, > > rather than the default sent-mail folder. > No, I kept the default to sent-mail Yes but I suspect you reset your fcc-name-rule to recipient > > Another way is to leave the default as sent-mail, then in your Addressbook > > Edit set the fcc for each correspondent to the folder you wish it to go to. > That's exactly what I did ! > In the addressbook I specified an Fcc for some entries. When I send mail > to one of these, the copy is placed in the specified folder instead of the > default Fcc, this is what I expected and like. > When I however *reply* to a party that has an entry in my addressbook with > the Fcc field filled in, the copy is done to a folder with the username of > this recipient. This is not what I expected :-( This should not happen, the fcc in your addressbook should override the fcc-name-rule to recipient, unless of course you have more than one name at the same address, then it will look for the 1st name with that address. > In your example of the Golf-related subject, it might be handy also if all > reply's are *automatically* copied in the Fcc corresponding to the entry > in your addressbook. Ofcourse this is only handy if all of these users are > related to this subject, otherwise you must specify the Fcc by hand or > let it default to "sent-mail" and sort it out later. Correct, except your default is NOT sent-mail it's recipient. > While responding to this message, Pine wanted to put the Fcc in a (not > yet existing) folder "jgvd" Which it what it should do, since you reset your fcc-name-rule to recipient > although the default-Fcc is still "sent-mail" You can't have it both ways > and there is no entry for you in my addressbook. By hand I changed the > Fcc to "pine.out", all other messages of this list are saved in "pineYYMM". Not sure how to explain this any better, but without some other mail filtering program, PINE can save 'carbon copies' (fcc's) of sent mail to either the generic sent-mail folder (which can be renamed or redirected), or by recipient, or by sender, or by fcc's specified in your addressbook, but as you pointed out above, if you reset it as you have to save by recipient, and that recipient is not in your addressbook, it's going to try to make a (for example jgvd) folder because that's what you told it to do. Your original question of PINE overriding the fcc's set in your addressbook probably has to do with the fact that you have 2 or more names with the same address, and PINE will look to fcc to the first ADDRESS not the first name so if you have 'Grandma van@nico.nl' and 'Grandpa van@nico.nl' it will look to the first van@nico.nl for an fcc and if Grandma doesn't have one, Grandpa's mail won't be fcc'd there either. Don't ask why, I don't know, I just know how it works. BYE /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka JohnGVanDalen) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 1 04:18:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01800; Mon, 1 Jan 96 04:18:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17998; Mon, 1 Jan 96 04:13:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17992; Mon, 1 Jan 96 04:13:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tWj6q-00038CC; Mon, 1 Jan 96 04:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Re: Pine, news, email, privacy Date: 1 Jan 1996 09:33:38 GMT Message-Id: <4c89pi$vs7@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <49qtsg$8mf@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> <4asg4f$r4k@news.orst.edu> <4bi658$7ed@Mercury.mcs.com> <4c0i4j$qi9@news.orst.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <4c0i4j$qi9@news.orst.edu>, John Stanley wrote: >I do not see such a mechanism in trn, which is a very common >newsreader. You can "F" or you can "R", but there is no "FR". The next time you type F or f in trn to post a followup, notice that there is a "Cc:" line at the top. The purpose of it is to send email at the same time as you are posting news. >The issue is not one of receiving replies, and you should be smart >enough to know that. It is one of getting those replies via a DIFFERENT >mechanism than the original article. When I post news, I look in news >for replies. I don't ask for mail unless I think the answers are >important enough to demand IMMEDIATE attention, which is what I have to >give email. People who assume that any answer they give to any comment I >make is important enough to demand immediate attention are assuming too >much responsibility for themselves. Whenever I ask a question with a specific answer on a technical newsgroup, I ask for replies via email and explain that I will summarize responses. There are several benefits. First, I can keep signal-to-noise on the newsgroup to a minimum, by weeding through the responses in my mailbox and posting a summary of responses (or sometimes just by explaining what worked). Second, the amount of lag time between my posting, the post reaching someone who knows the answer, and their post reaching me can be days. With the lag getting longer and the expiration period on newsgroups getting shorter every month, being able to halve the amount of time for a response is welcome. Third, there are many people (sometimes called "lurkers") who do not choose to post but will send email. If they answer my question, then that is an answer I would not have received if I asked for all responses to be sent to the newsgroup. (Yes, this point isn't so solid because one may say that such people would just email me anyway, but I'm not so sure that's true.) Fourth -- and for me, most important -- is that email waits for *me*. As a sysadmin, I can't plan for system failures and other times of duress, and reading news is rather low on my list of priorities. When I have to work a seventy-hour week, I'm lucky to keep myself clean and fed -- I can forget sleeping, let alone reading news. If I'm away from news for a few days, the article answering my question is likely to be gone. My only choices are to ask the question of the newsgroup again (which is rather rude) or to wait until one of the archival services pick up the article (which in my experience can take weeks). If everyone had high-speed lines and tens of gigabytes of storage on their news spools, then I'd probably use news to solicit email responses much less frequently; news alone would be quite acceptable. But for asking questions for which there is a specific answer ("is there a way to clear the foobar database on a VZ/9000?") and I am interested in that answer, and not discussion, I will continue to solicit email. I don't think we're disagreeing here; I, too, get irritated when I receive email that was also posted and the author does not say so in the body of the message. But not so irritated as to killfile them in news. As for killfiling individuals in mail, that's another argument that I'm not going to get into here. I personally believe that killfiling an individual's email is crass and tactless, the equivalent of totally ignoring someone you know when you meet in person. But that's a disagreement for another day. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris/ System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 1 12:43:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09001; Mon, 1 Jan 96 12:43:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26148; Mon, 1 Jan 96 12:34:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26142; Mon, 1 Jan 96 12:34:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tWqtZ-00038CC; Mon, 1 Jan 96 12:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Parlar@McMaster.CA (Mahmut Parlar) Subject: Q: How to make the cursor skip to the next word? Date: 1 Jan 1996 19:23:19 GMT Message-Id: <4c9cb7$rjk@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> Status: O X-Status: Hello: In most DOS/Windows wordprocessors, pressing the `Ctrl + Right Arrow' keys would make the cursor jump to the next word. The PINE v3.91 Editor we have here doesn't understand this key combination (I guess because it is a UNIX application). Is there a similar key combination in PINE that would do the same thing? Thanks for your help. Mahmut Parlar From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 1 13:07:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09758; Mon, 1 Jan 96 13:07:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24847; Mon, 1 Jan 96 12:59:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24841; Mon, 1 Jan 96 12:59:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tWrGm-00038CC; Mon, 1 Jan 96 12:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: repost. Date: 1 Jan 1996 20:00:59 GMT Message-Id: <4c9ehr$5uu@guava.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Sean Cross (secross@whidbey) wrote: : Why can't my postings to a newsgroup get out. (other than my site.) : When i post a message to a newsgroup it's as if the posting does not exist : on the other sites. : I see my posting on my local site, But anyother site it is not there. : I have verifyed this by sending out a post to a newsgroup : then telnet to another site, but when i check the newsgroup for my posting : the posting is not there. : I seem to get answers from my postings in whidbey.com but nowhere else. : This can be very frustrating! : Help on this would be greatly appreasheated. You postings ARE getting out. The reason you don't see them immediately when you telnet to another site and look for them, probably is because it may take several hours OR MORE for the post to travel to the other site's server, could even in some cases be a day or more. Hope that helps. BYE From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 1 13:20:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10033; Mon, 1 Jan 96 13:20:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26935; Mon, 1 Jan 96 13:14:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26929; Mon, 1 Jan 96 13:14:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tWrXD-00038CC; Mon, 1 Jan 96 13:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Russ Allbery Subject: Re: Pine, news, email, privacy Date: 01 Jan 1996 12:36:08 -0800 Message-Id: References: <49qtsg$8mf@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> <4asg4f$r4k@news.orst.edu> In-Reply-To: harris@email.unc.edu's message of 1 Jan 1996 09:33:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: In news.admin.misc, Trey Harris writes: > As for killfiling individuals in mail, that's another argument that I'm > not going to get into here. I personally believe that killfiling an > individual's email is crass and tactless, the equivalent of totally > ignoring someone you know when you meet in person. But that's a > disagreement for another day. You are fortunate to not have encountered some of the people I have sending me e-mail. I hope you will remain so fortunate. -- Russ Allbery (rra@cs.stanford.edu) http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~rra/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 1 16:45:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13132; Mon, 1 Jan 96 16:45:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28110; Mon, 1 Jan 96 16:40:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28104; Mon, 1 Jan 96 16:40:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tWuiP-00038CC; Mon, 1 Jan 96 16:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tom Phoenix Subject: Interrupting wait for news server Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 16:27:13 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Sometimes the news server on my site is slow to respond, so Pine seems to hang. Is there any way to interrupt Pine, so I can get back to more interesting things? I can use 'kill' to send a signal to Pine, but I don't want to kill it; I just want to wake it up! ;-) -- Tom Phoenix http://www.teleport.com/~rootbeer/ rootbeer@teleport.com PGP Skribu al mi per Esperanto! Randal Schwartz Defense: Send mail to From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 1 17:04:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13780; Mon, 1 Jan 96 17:04:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00406; Mon, 1 Jan 96 17:00:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00400; Mon, 1 Jan 96 17:00:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tWv4b-00038EC; Mon, 1 Jan 96 16:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Q: How to make the cursor skip to the next word? Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 19:17:14 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4c9cb7$rjk@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4c9cb7$rjk@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> Status: O X-Status: On 1 Jan 1996, Mahmut Parlar wrote: > In most DOS/Windows wordprocessors, pressing the > `Ctrl + Right Arrow' keys would make the cursor jump to the next word. The > PINE v3.91 Editor we have here doesn't understand this key combination I am using Unix Pine 3.91. In the composer (or in Pico, which is pretty much the same thing), Ctrl-@ (^@) moves the cursor from word to word toward the right. On my keyboard I do not have to use Shift, so Ctrl-2 works just fine. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 1 18:19:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15001; Mon, 1 Jan 96 18:19:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29885; Mon, 1 Jan 96 18:15:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29877; Mon, 1 Jan 96 18:15:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tWwCu-00038CC; Mon, 1 Jan 96 18:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: cancelling a post Date: Mon, 1 Jan 1996 17:37:03 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Maybe a year ago, someone in this group described how to cancel a newsgroup post. I think you send another message after it with a header in it called "Control:". Unfortunately I can't recall what was supposed to appear in the Control: line. Does anyone know how to do this? Ian Ollmann iano@scripps.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 1 19:48:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16577; Mon, 1 Jan 96 19:48:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03312; Mon, 1 Jan 96 19:45:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03306; Mon, 1 Jan 96 19:45:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tWxeG-00038EC; Mon, 1 Jan 96 19:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: u3718709@netserv.chula.ac.th (Piyawat Suesretasit) Subject: How to quit?? Date: 2 Jan 1996 09:55:59 GMT Message-Id: <4cavff$46b@enterprise.netserv.chula.ac.th> Status: O X-Status: I'm not goot at English..so don't laugh if u see a funny sentence.. I have a problem with pine...when i choose 'q' command from the main menu to quit, it will display 'Really quit pine??' and then _hang_ . I don't know why...so if anyone have an experience like me, please tell me how to do.. Thank you very much, from newuser... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 1 22:17:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19216; Mon, 1 Jan 96 22:17:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04003; Mon, 1 Jan 96 22:10:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03997; Mon, 1 Jan 96 22:10:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tWzve-00038KC; Mon, 1 Jan 96 22:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cal Sawyer Subject: Binhex attachment woes Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 21:32:35 -0800 Message-Id: <30E8C373.BF3@eciad.bc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I keep getting attachments encoded binhex4 from wiseacre Eudora users! Have searched high and low for a binhex processor for UNIX (specifically IRIX 5.2) but can find no such utility. Can someone out there in Pineland help out with this? TIA! ")_cal! --------------------------------------- Cal Sawyer Emily Carr Institute of Art and Design Vancouver, B.C. Canada --------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 03:03:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24741; Tue, 2 Jan 96 03:03:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08766; Tue, 2 Jan 96 02:51:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08760; Tue, 2 Jan 96 02:51:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tX4Ef-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 02:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkchang@ctsc.hkbc.hk (Ludwig Chang Man Kit) Subject: problem using PINE for window Date: 2 Jan 1996 17:40:18 +0800 Message-Id: <4caui2$18so@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Status: O X-Status: I am using PCPINE 391 under window 3.1 running on Novell network. My mail is in a rs6000 machine which have PINE for unix installed. When I try to set up the pcpine to get my mail from this server, a alway got a message saying the connection refused. I just wonder, since I don't have to type in my unix account password in the pcpine, it is normal to be refused by the host!! How should I set up my pcpine to read the mail send to my unix host? Thanks very much for your help. Man Kit -- ============================================================================ Man Kit Chang ++ e-mail : mkchang@ctsc.hkbu.edu.hk Department of Finance and ++ address: 224 Waterloo Road Decision Sciences ++ Kowloon, Hong Kong School of Business ++ Hong Kong Baptist University ++ ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 06:24:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29041; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:24:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14022; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:16:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14016; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:16:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tX7Vl-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stf@altair.com (Steve Ferguson) Subject: Re: How to quit?? Date: 2 Jan 1996 13:24:27 GMT Message-Id: <4cbbmb$do@frankensun.altair.com> References: <4cavff$46b@enterprise.netserv.chula.ac.th> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jan 1996 09:55:59 GMT, Piyawat Suesretasit wrote: > I have a problem with pine...when i choose 'q' command from the > main menu to quit, it will display 'Really quit pine??' and then > _hang_ . I don't know why...so if anyone have an experience like > me, please tell me how to do.. Have you tried answering the question with a 'y'? If not, you might try that. You can also set a feature in Pine called 'quit-without-confirm' which will avoid that prompt. -- ============================================================================= Steve Ferguson | Altair Engineering/Altair Computing Systems Analyst | Troy, Michigan 48084 USA stf@altair.com | (810)614-2400 x297 ============================================================================= Back-up: Current data errors that have been saved for future use. Crash: A normal termination. Loop: See Loop. Password: The nonsense word taped to your terminal. ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 06:28:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29139; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:28:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12378; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:21:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12372; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:21:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tX7Ww-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stf@altair.com (Steve Ferguson) Subject: Re: problem using PINE for window Date: 2 Jan 1996 13:26:33 GMT Message-Id: <4cbbq9$do@frankensun.altair.com> References: <4caui2$18so@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jan 1996 17:40:18 +0800, Ludwig Chang Man Kit wrote: > I am using PCPINE 391 under window 3.1 running on Novell network. My mail is > in a rs6000 machine which have PINE for unix installed. > When I try to set up the pcpine to get my mail from this server, a alway got > a message saying the connection refused. > I just wonder, since I don't have to type in my unix account password in the > pcpine, it is normal to be refused by the host!! > How should I set up my pcpine to read the mail send to my unix host? You need to set up your PC Pine client to read mail via IMAP. Define your INBOX as {mymailserverhostname}INBOX and it'll prompt you for a login name and password when you connect. If your AIX machine isn't running imapd, then it needs to (your mail server must support POP3 for this to work). I don't use PC Pine, so someone else may be more qualified to help you with PC specifics. -- ============================================================================= Steve Ferguson | Altair Engineering/Altair Computing Systems Analyst | Troy, Michigan 48084 USA stf@altair.com | (810)614-2400 x297 ============================================================================= Back-up: Current data errors that have been saved for future use. Crash: A normal termination. Loop: See Loop. Password: The nonsense word taped to your terminal. ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 06:33:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29336; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:33:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14204; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:26:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14198; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:26:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tX7dV-00038EC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stf@altair.com (Steve Ferguson) Subject: Pine 'metoo' behavior Date: 2 Jan 1996 13:34:44 GMT Message-Id: <4cbc9k$do@frankensun.altair.com> Status: O X-Status: I've been using Pine for months without any problems. Recently, we installed a different mail transport agent on our mail server (switching from standard Berkeley sendmail to smail). It appears that Pine's default behavior is 'metoo', meaning that if my name appears in an alias list, I get a copy of the message (which I don't want). Since the default behavior of Berkeley services is to *not* resend mail to the sender unless explicitly requested, I haven't noticed this feature of Pine until now. I've looked through all of the options under S)etup C)onfig and found nothing intuitively relevant. I've been assured by a person-with-clue that our smail process should behave the same way that sendmail does, and to verify that myself, I tried sending mail using UCB mail and defining 'set nometoo' in my .mailrc file. The results were as I expected. With 'set nometoo', I didn't receive a copy of my message. I've also tried sending my mail to a local sendmail process instead of punting it to our smail server via SMTP. This did not resolve the problem. What I'd like to know is: Is there a way to 'set nometoo' (as with UCB mail) under Pine so that I don't receive copies of messages I send to aliases that I'm in? Any help would be geniunely appreciated. :) -- ============================================================================= Steve Ferguson | Altair Engineering/Altair Computing Systems Analyst | Troy, Michigan 48084 USA stf@altair.com | (810)614-2400 x297 ============================================================================= Back-up: Current data errors that have been saved for future use. Crash: A normal termination. Loop: See Loop. Password: The nonsense word taped to your terminal. ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 06:43:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29562; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:43:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12708; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:36:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12702; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:36:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tX7lr-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 06:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfreeman@flowbee.interaccess.com (Richard E. Freeman) Subject: Killer Updates?! Date: 2 Jan 1996 13:34:32 GMT Message-Id: <4cbc98$e6o@nntp.interaccess.com> Status: O X-Status: In the past couple of weeks, when booting pine, at least twice I've gotten notices proclaiming that I was being updated to the latest version of pine, 3.91 I think, a version that was already running on my system. Each time my personal pine defaults have been zapped and had to be reset, and I also suspect a list I had created in the address book was also zapped. Who's doing this unecessary updating and why does it zap my defaults? -- Rich Freeman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 07:50:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01259; Tue, 2 Jan 96 07:50:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15787; Tue, 2 Jan 96 07:45:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sol.racsa.co.cr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15781; Tue, 2 Jan 96 07:44:56 -0800 Received: by sol.racsa.co.cr (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA24054; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:45:21 +0600 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:45:18 +0600 (GMT) From: "Claudio Miguel Regueyra R." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Extracting binary files In-Reply-To: <4cbc9k$do@frankensun.altair.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 119 Status: O X-Status: I will really apreciate sombody can say me how can I to extract a binary file from a mail. Thanks. Claudio Regueyra From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 07:58:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01413; Tue, 2 Jan 96 07:58:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15968; Tue, 2 Jan 96 07:52:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15962; Tue, 2 Jan 96 07:52:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tX8zr-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 07:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stf@altair.com (Steve Ferguson) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 "freezes" trying to post ?? Date: 2 Jan 1996 15:45:03 GMT Message-Id: <4cbjtv$1db@frankensun.altair.com> References: <4cbgoj$1s2@ASARian.org> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jan 1996 09:50:59 -0500, Fuzzy wrote: > we were unable to get pine to create a .pine-debug1 file, but we are able > to recreate the problem. user describes it below: > : From astraea@ASARian.orgTue Jan 2 09:00:45 1996 > : Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 06:22:47 -0500 (EST) > : From: astraea > : To: fuzzy@ASARian.org > : Subject: Newsgroups in Pine > : > : When one is posting to newsgroups through Pine, it is vitally important > : not to wander up into the header of said post. Doing so causes Pine to > : freeze irretrievably. > : > : One must also not postpone said message and attempt to continue it at a > : later time. Attempting to continue a postponed news message will also > : cause Pine to freeze. You really need to produce the .pine-debug1 file. Those problems are not being experienced globally. I use pine to edit news headers and such all the time. I've postponed messages dozens of times without a problem. Start up pine with 'pine -d 1' to get a debug level 1 file. Make sure your pine command isn't aliased (using C shell start it with a leading \, as in \pine) and make sure you have write permission in the directory you start it in. -- ============================================================================= Steve Ferguson | Altair Engineering/Altair Computing Systems Analyst | Troy, Michigan 48084 USA stf@altair.com | (810)614-2400 x297 ============================================================================= Back-up: Current data errors that have been saved for future use. Crash: A normal termination. Loop: See Loop. Password: The nonsense word taped to your terminal. ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 09:01:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04249; Tue, 2 Jan 96 09:01:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16106; Tue, 2 Jan 96 08:57:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16094; Tue, 2 Jan 96 08:57:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXA15-00038EC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 08:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cwiseman@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Chris Wiseman) Subject: Pine clips first 2 characters of folder names. Ideas? Date: 2 Jan 1996 16:45:50 GMT Message-Id: <4cbnfu$t25@dgis.dtic.dla.mil> Status: O X-Status: -- Folks, My system administrator downloaded and compiled pine for our project use. I haven't yet begun to dig in deeply to find out why, but when PINE lists the folders in the mail/ subdirectory, it chops off the first two characters in the folder names. For example, "sent-mail" is listed as "nt-mail." If I try to open this folder, PINE says "folder 'nt-mail' does not exist." This phenomenon occurs for every folder in ~/mail/. Also, "mail/" is listed as one of the folders. This seems strange. I don't remember this being the case on my last jobsite where I used PINE. Any ideas or help? Thanks in advance. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ - J. Christopher Wiseman (Chris) | email: cwiseman@edms16.dtic.dla.mil - Systems/Software Engineer | vmail: (703)767-9218 - ATR Corporation, McLean, VA | #include "std_disclaimer_mine.h" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 09:56:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06844; Tue, 2 Jan 96 09:56:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19739; Tue, 2 Jan 96 09:52:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19733; Tue, 2 Jan 96 09:52:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXArZ-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 09:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: cancelling a post Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:50:48 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > Maybe a year ago, someone in this group described how to cancel a > newsgroup post. I think you send another message after it with a header in > it called "Control:". Unfortunately I can't recall what was supposed to > appear in the Control: line. Does anyone know how to do this? > > Ian Ollmann > iano@scripps.edu Last spring the post below appeared on comp.mail.pine. I cannot vouch for its correctness, Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart ////////////////// Date: 14 May 1995 17:50:03 GMT From: Paul Robinson Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: How to Cancel USENET posts Harris Internet Service Company (martyn@indirect.com) wrote: : What is the proper procedure for cancelling a newsgroup post? Get the original post number (the "references") and be sure to have a "Control:" header in the list of optional headers, or use the command in pine to allow you to add it. Use the following headers: Control: cancel Subject: cmsg cancel And have a non-empty text; the signature should be sufficient -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Find out about "The Gatekeeper: The Gate Contracts" - Write to address below. Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net "The Greatest Philosopher in the World, maybe the Greatest who ever lived." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 10:06:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07271; Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:06:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18326; Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:02:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18320; Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:02:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXAzf-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 09:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fuzzy@ASARian.org (Fuzzy) Subject: Pine 3.91 "freezes" trying to post ?? Date: 2 Jan 1996 09:50:59 -0500 Message-Id: <4cbgoj$1s2@ASARian.org> Status: O X-Status: >From fuzzy@ASARian.orgTue Jan 2 09:25:48 1996 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 09:05:13 -0500 (EST) From: Fuzzy To: Pine Developers Cc: astraea@ASARian.org, fuzzy@ASARian.org Subject: Bug (ID NE80R) Re: newsgroups in Pine 3.91 we were unable to get pine to create a .pine-debug1 file, but we are able to recreate the problem. user describes it below: : From astraea@ASARian.orgTue Jan 2 09:00:45 1996 : Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 06:22:47 -0500 (EST) : From: astraea : To: fuzzy@ASARian.org : Subject: Newsgroups in Pine : : When one is posting to newsgroups through Pine, it is vitally important : not to wander up into the header of said post. Doing so causes Pine to : freeze irretrievably. : : One must also not postpone said message and attempt to continue it at a : later time. Attempting to continue a postponed news message will also : cause Pine to freeze. thanks in advance _____ __ __ ____ ____ __ __ / ___// // //__ )/__ )\ \/ / / __/ / // / / /__ / /__\ / (_/ (____/ <____/<____//_/ SysAdmin, ASARian.org Email: fuzzy@asarian.org -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 10:47:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09315; Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:47:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21035; Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:32:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21029; Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:32:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXBVG-00038HC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.oce.orst.edu (John Stanley) Subject: Re: Pine, news, email, privacy Date: 2 Jan 1996 17:27:30 GMT Message-Id: <820602938.AA12345@oce.orst.edu> References: <49qtsg$8mf@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> <4bi658$7ed@Mercury.mcs.com> <4c0i4j$qi9@news.orst.edu> <4c89pi$vs7@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <4c89pi$vs7@bigblue.oit.unc.edu>, Trey Harris wrote: >In article <4c0i4j$qi9@news.orst.edu>, >John Stanley wrote: >>I do not see such a mechanism in trn, which is a very common >>newsreader. You can "F" or you can "R", but there is no "FR". > >The next time you type F or f in trn to post a followup, notice that there >is a "Cc:" line at the top. The purpose of it is to send email at the >same time as you are posting news. The statement I replied to was to the effect that it was no harder to reply as the poster wished than to reply normally. In this case, the poster was asking for email copies of followups. I consider having to locate the proper email address and type it in to be much harder than just typing "F". >Whenever I ask a question with a specific answer on a technical newsgroup, >I ask for replies via email and explain that I will summarize responses. >There are several benefits. That's nice. That isn't the issue being discussed. If you read the paragraph you quoted, you might have noticed that it dealt with people sending mail and posting. >Fourth -- and for me, most important -- is that email waits for *me*. As That's nice. For me, email is brought to my attention immediately (if I am logged in) and requires that I at least look at who it is from to determine if it is something that requires more attention. Some dork sending me mail with a copy of his news article is an interruption I don't need. I will see his article in news. If I don't, and I have considered the topic important enough, it will be caught by my news agent. >a sysadmin, I can't plan for system failures and other times of duress, >and reading news is rather low on my list of priorities. Mine too. That is why getting copies of articles by mail is a waste of time. Someone has decided for me that his article should be high on my priority list. Even if all it says is "me too". >If I'm away from news for a few >days, the article answering my question is likely to be gone. My only So get an agent to scan news for important things and have it save them for you. It isn't rocket science. It took me an afternoon to write one. It isn't perfect, but when I left town for three weeks right at the beginning of a discussion, I didn't worry a bit about missing anything. It was waiting for me when I got back. >and not discussion, I will continue to solicit email. Good for you. And there will be people who will ignore your question because they think your solicitation is rude, or who will post anyway. You make your choice, they make theirs. >the message. But not so irritated as to killfile them in news. Excuse me? Where did I say I killfile them in news? >As for killfiling individuals in mail, that's another argument that I'm >not going to get into here. I personally believe that killfiling an >individual's email is crass and tactless, the equivalent of totally >ignoring someone you know when you meet in person. Email is not meeting someone in person. If you think it is crass and tasteless to reject email from crass and tasteless people who refuse to stop sending copies of news articles, well, that's your opinion and I am not going to let it bother me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 10:52:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09697; Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:52:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19300; Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:37:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19294; Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:37:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXBWx-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 10:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: Extracting binary files Message-Id: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:09:26 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <4cbc9k$do@frankensun.altair.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jan 1996, Claudio Miguel Regueyra R. wrote: > I will really apreciate sombody can say me how can I to extract a binary > file from a mail. I assume that the binary file you wanted to extract is an attachment to an e-mail, thus in MIME format. When you're viewing that e-mail, press V for View. Then use the arrow keys to select the attachment. Press S for Save (to a file). Enter the file name you want the binary to be saved as. That's it. Eric From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 11:29:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11700; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:29:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22496; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:17:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22484; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:17:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXC9P-00038EC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marshall Hollister-Jones Subject: Pine Crashes on Sco Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 08:25:54 +0000 Message-Id: <30EA3D92.844@enternet.co.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I've installed a pine 3.91 binary compiled for Sco on SCO 3.2v4.2. It runs fine from the console or a dial-up PC emulating Wuse60 but crashes on ANY of our terminals (mix of tvi925, wyse60, wyse120). Here is the last few lines of debug output on each occasion: When run from the console: ******** new mail returning -1 ******** set_titlebar - style: 0 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(0) returns:STATUS: diff:0, displayed: 819758946, now: 819758947 output_message(Folder "INBOX" opened with 0 messages) STATUS cmd:120, disp:1, length:0, max:4, min2Select readfds:1 timeval:0,0 Select on tty returned 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 113 q Read command returning: 113 q New_mail_count zeroed When run from a terminal ******** new mail returning -1 ******** set_titlebar - style: 0 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(0) returns:STATUS: diff:0, displayed: 819711911, now: 819711912 output_message(Folder "INBOX" opened with 0 messages) STATUS cmd:120, disp:1, length:0, max:4, min2Select readfds:1 timeval:0,0 Select on tty returned -1 end_screen called about to end_tty_driver end_signals(1) Pine Panic: Select error: Invalid argument save_debug_on_crash: Version 3.91: debug level 9 Clearly there is an error with "Select on tty" but what does this mean and how do I fix it? I wondered about hand-shaking as our terminals use Xon/Xoff. Also we don't have tcp/ip. Marshall -- Dr Marshall Hollister-Jones, BHB, MBChB, General Practitioner. Chadwick Healthcare 190 Chadwick Rd, P.O. Box 3042, Greerton, Tauranga, New Zealand. Ph 64 -7-5780132, Fax 64-7-5787392. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 11:32:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11996; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:32:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20807; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:22:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20801; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:22:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXCFH-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pauljo@netcom.com (Paul Johnson) Subject: Controlling Packet Size Message-Id: Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 17:57:43 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to control the packet size of an attached binary using pine? The copy in use on netcom does not seem to break up the mime encoded binary into digestable sized packets, so attaching a large binary means that my email can't get through some gateways and to some services. Thanks, Paul -- -- Paul Johnson pauljo@netcom.com 75470.1721@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 11:47:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12865; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:47:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23406; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:42:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from darkwing.uoregon.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23400; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:42:46 -0800 Received: from darkwing.uoregon.edu (darkwing.uoregon.edu [128.223.142.13]) by darkwing.uoregon.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA09972 for ; Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:42:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 11:42:41 -0800 (PST) From: Karimi Igeria To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine error Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm not sure what this error message means. It comes up whenever I start a pine session: Error saving configuration file "/home1/karimi/.pinerc":Cross-device link. could someone please shed some light on whats happnin' here. Permissions on the file are: -rw-r--r-- 1 karimi cc_acad 6537 Dec 29 13:35 .pinerc regards, --- Karimi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 12:07:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14056; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:07:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24031; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:02:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24025; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:02:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXCqZ-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 11:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kstacey@tribeca.ios.com (Kevin Stacey) Subject: Re: How to quit?? Date: 2 Jan 1996 18:19:43 GMT Message-Id: <4cbsvv$j75@news.ios.com> References: <4cavff$46b@enterprise.netserv.chula.ac.th> Status: O X-Status: Piyawat Suesretasit (u3718709@netserv.chula.ac.th) wrote: : I'm not goot at English..so don't laugh if u see a funny sentence.. : I have a problem with pine...when i choose 'q' command from the : main menu to quit, it will display 'Really quit pine??' and then : _hang_ . I don't know why...so if anyone have an experience like : me, please tell me how to do.. : Thank you very much, : from newuser... Have you tried answering y for yes? -- Kevin Stacey There are not ten people in the world whose deaths would spoil my dinner, but there are one or two whose deaths would break my heart. Thomas Babington Macaulay in a letter to his sister, Hannah From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 14:12:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20689; Tue, 2 Jan 96 14:12:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25978; Tue, 2 Jan 96 14:07:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25972; Tue, 2 Jan 96 14:07:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXEoH-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 14:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@cal052012.student.utwente.nl (Remco van de Meent) Subject: Re: Filtering Mail Date: 2 Jan 1996 20:46:53 GMT Message-Id: <4cc5jt$5m8@driene.student.utwente.nl> References: Status: O X-Status: Gregory J. Hickel (gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu) wrote on Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:35:17 -0600: > The help file on Unix Pine mentions using an external program to filter > your mail. Could someone please direct me to these? Thanks! > Ehmmmmmmmmm, so I'm _not_ the only one looking for this information.... please mail me if you get responses... thanx -- Remco van de Meent. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 12:19:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28062; Tue, 2 Jan 96 12:19:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03386; Tue, 2 Jan 96 16:48:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03380; Tue, 2 Jan 96 16:48:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXHIM-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 16:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Killer Updates?! Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 15:39:27 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4cbc98$e6o@nntp.interaccess.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4cbc98$e6o@nntp.interaccess.com> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jan 1996, Richard E. Freeman wrote: > In the past couple of weeks, when booting pine, at least twice I've gotten > notices proclaiming that I was being updated to the latest version of > pine, 3.91 I think, a version that was already running on my system. Each > time my personal pine defaults have been zapped and had to be reset, and I > also suspect a list I had created in the address book was also zapped. > Who's doing this unecessary updating and why does it zap my defaults? Actually, I think what is going on is that your defaults are getting zapped first. When you start up pine it looks at the defaults for the laster-version-used= line (or something like that) and sees that it is blank or not there and gives you the notice about the latest version of pine. I would look into things that might be causing your ~/.pinerc to be deleted. Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 18:12:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02238; Tue, 2 Jan 96 18:12:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06556; Tue, 2 Jan 96 19:18:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06550; Tue, 2 Jan 96 19:18:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXJdq-00038EC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 19:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jurist@netaxs.com (Jurist Inc.) Subject: BCC problem Date: 3 Jan 1996 02:55:16 GMT Message-Id: <4ccr6k$p2q@netaxs.com> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone noticed that if you BCC someone, it tells the main receipient of the message that you have done so? This doesn't sound like correct behavior. email trevor@jurist.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 18:12:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02244; Tue, 2 Jan 96 18:12:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04516; Tue, 2 Jan 96 19:18:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04510; Tue, 2 Jan 96 19:18:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXJdq-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 19:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine clips first 2 characters of folder names. Ideas? Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 18:08:48 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4cbnfu$t25@dgis.dtic.dla.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4cbnfu$t25@dgis.dtic.dla.mil> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jan 1996, Chris Wiseman wrote: > My system administrator downloaded and compiled pine for our project > use. I haven't yet begun to dig in deeply to find out why, but when > PINE lists the folders in the mail/ subdirectory, it chops off the > first two characters in the folder names. For example, "sent-mail" > is listed as "nt-mail." If I try to open this folder, PINE says > "folder 'nt-mail' does not exist." This phenomenon occurs for every > folder in ~/mail/. Also, "mail/" is listed as one of the folders. > This seems strange. I don't remember this being the case on my last > jobsite where I used PINE. You lucky person. You must be running Solaris. You need to rebuild Pine, but first in the Makefile set "cc" to be "ucbcc" (which, in spite of the name, is the compiler that you use to compile SVR4 compliant programs). -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 18:56:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03120; Tue, 2 Jan 96 18:56:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07226; Tue, 2 Jan 96 20:01:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07220; Tue, 2 Jan 96 20:01:37 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 3 Jan 96 12:01:14 +0800 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:01:11 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine clips first 2 characters of folder names. Ideas? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 2 Jan 1996, Mark Crispin wrote: > On 2 Jan 1996, Chris Wiseman wrote: > > My system administrator downloaded and compiled pine for our project > > use. I haven't yet begun to dig in deeply to find out why, but when > > PINE lists the folders in the mail/ subdirectory, it chops off the > > first two characters in the folder names. For example, "sent-mail" > > is listed as "nt-mail." If I try to open this folder, PINE says > > "folder 'nt-mail' does not exist." This phenomenon occurs for every > > folder in ~/mail/. Also, "mail/" is listed as one of the folders. > > This seems strange. I don't remember this being the case on my last > > jobsite where I used PINE. > > You lucky person. You must be running Solaris. You need to rebuild Pine, > but first in the Makefile set "cc" to be "ucbcc" (which, in spite of the > name, is the compiler that you use to compile SVR4 compliant programs). Hummm??? I've built pine3.89, 3.90, and 3.91 on Solaris 2.3, 2.4 and I've never had to "Makefile set "cc" to be "ucbcc".....and I've never seen the problem of clipping folder names. Gee....and not only that, what "Makefile" are you suggesting needs editing? Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 20:13:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03494; Tue, 2 Jan 96 20:13:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07444; Tue, 2 Jan 96 20:11:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07438; Tue, 2 Jan 96 20:11:23 -0800 Received: from localhost by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67f2/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA18729; Tue, 2 Jan 96 20:11:18 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 20:07:10 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine clips first 2 characters of folder names. Ideas? To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 Jan 1996 12:01:11 +0800 (GMT), Ed Greshko wrote: > I've built pine3.89, 3.90, and 3.91 on Solaris 2.3, 2.4 and > I've never had to "Makefile set "cc" to be "ucbcc".....and I've never > seen the problem of clipping folder names. It all depends upon how the C compiler was installed on your system. If you have the BSD compatibility compiler installed as the default, you will get the clipping behavior. This is because the BSD readdir() function returns a struct in which the file name is offset two bytes from where it would be from the SVR4 readdir() function. > Gee....and not only that, what "Makefile" are you suggesting needs > editing? Pretty much all of them (imap, c-client, pico, pine, imapd) if you want to be sure that you are avoiding the problem. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 20:54:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04258; Tue, 2 Jan 96 20:54:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05948; Tue, 2 Jan 96 20:48:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05942; Tue, 2 Jan 96 20:48:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXL4Q-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 20:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine clips first 2 characters of folder names. Ideas? Date: 3 Jan 96 03:37:39 GMT Message-Id: References: <4cbnfu$t25@dgis.dtic.dla.mil> Status: O X-Status: Mark Crispin writes: >On 2 Jan 1996, Chris Wiseman wrote: >> My system administrator downloaded and compiled pine for our project >> use. I haven't yet begun to dig in deeply to find out why, but when >> PINE lists the folders in the mail/ subdirectory, it chops off the >> first two characters in the folder names. For example, "sent-mail" >> is listed as "nt-mail." If I try to open this folder, PINE says >> "folder 'nt-mail' does not exist." This phenomenon occurs for every >> folder in ~/mail/. Also, "mail/" is listed as one of the folders. >> This seems strange. I don't remember this being the case on my last >> jobsite where I used PINE. >You lucky person. You must be running Solaris. You need to rebuild Pine, >but first in the Makefile set "cc" to be "ucbcc" (which, in spite of the >name, is the compiler that you use to compile SVR4 compliant programs). This is very bad advice. It is best to completely avoid ucbcc. The specific symptom reported is the result of confounding includes and libs between the standard SVR4 environment and the incompletely and improperly done "bsd src compat" cruft. A properly configed and compiled Solaris program does not need any of the crap that ucbcc contaminates things with. Everyone who compiles things for SunOS 5.x should get a copy of the "Solaris Porting FAQ" from the FAQ place. >-- Mark -- >DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" >Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 21:23:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05138; Tue, 2 Jan 96 21:23:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08519; Tue, 2 Jan 96 21:13:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08513; Tue, 2 Jan 96 21:13:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXLVp-00038CC; Tue, 2 Jan 96 21:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: u3542725@netserv.chula.ac.th (Tanyawat Chawalitsunthorn) Subject: I think you ok! Date: 3 Jan 1996 09:58:14 GMT Message-Id: <4cdjvm$9qv@enterprise.netserv.chula.ac.th> Status: O X-Status: I think your idea not bad .Because I have idea same you So we is a friend in Internet If you want e-mail everyday you should responce me at u3542725@chulkn.chula.ac.th From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 2 21:59:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07515; Tue, 2 Jan 96 21:59:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10444; Tue, 2 Jan 96 22:59:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10438; Tue, 2 Jan 96 22:59:51 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03352; Tue, 2 Jan 96 22:59:48 -0800 Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 22:59:48 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Steve Ferguson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 'metoo' behavior In-Reply-To: <4cbc9k$do@frankensun.altair.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: There is no way to set the metoo behavior. Pine's exec of sendmail doesn't set the parameter one way or the other, so you're getting the default set in the mail transport agent configuration. Apparently the sendmail default was set opposite of what the smail default is. If you know of an SMTP server that has the default the way you want it, you could set smtp-server to that host and that would probably fix it. The next version of pine will have a way to configure the arguments passed to the program that is invoked, so you'll be able to set the behavior you want with a command line argument. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 2 Jan 1996, Steve Ferguson wrote: > I've been using Pine for months without any problems. Recently, we > installed a different mail transport agent on our mail server (switching > from standard Berkeley sendmail to smail). It appears that Pine's default > behavior is 'metoo', meaning that if my name appears in an alias list, I > get a copy of the message (which I don't want). Since the default behavior > of Berkeley services is to *not* resend mail to the sender unless > explicitly requested, I haven't noticed this feature of Pine until now. > I've looked through all of the options under S)etup C)onfig and found > nothing intuitively relevant. I've been assured by a person-with-clue that > our smail process should behave the same way that sendmail does, and to > verify that myself, I tried sending mail using UCB mail and defining 'set > nometoo' in my .mailrc file. The results were as I expected. With 'set > nometoo', I didn't receive a copy of my message. I've also tried sending > my mail to a local sendmail process instead of punting it to our smail > server via SMTP. This did not resolve the problem. > > What I'd like to know is: Is there a way to 'set nometoo' (as with UCB > mail) under Pine so that I don't receive copies of messages I send to > aliases that I'm in? > > Any help would be geniunely appreciated. :) > > -- > ============================================================================= > Steve Ferguson | Altair Engineering/Altair Computing > Systems Analyst | Troy, Michigan 48084 USA > stf@altair.com | (810)614-2400 x297 > ============================================================================= > Back-up: Current data errors that have been saved for future use. > Crash: A normal termination. > Loop: See Loop. > Password: The nonsense word taped to your terminal. > ============================================================================= > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 03:42:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10954; Wed, 3 Jan 96 03:42:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10516; Wed, 3 Jan 96 01:14:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10510; Wed, 3 Jan 96 01:14:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXPCt-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 01:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhurwit@netcom.com (Jeffrey Hurwit) Subject: Turning on/off enriched text? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 06:57:46 GMT Status: O X-Status: How is enriched text turned off in outgoing messages? I've been using Pine since 3.89, and I've never seen an option in .pinerc (or in the config menu since 3.90) to set or unset this feature. My messages never seem to go out with enriched text (which is my preference, since many people find it irritating), but I frequently see it in other messages generated by Pine (and usually with Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE). I couldn't find anything in the docs bundled with Pine, nor in anything on Washington U's ftp or Web servers. Thanks for your help, Jeff From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 03:42:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10976; Wed, 3 Jan 96 03:42:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12624; Wed, 3 Jan 96 01:14:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12618; Wed, 3 Jan 96 01:14:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXPCu-00038EC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 01:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Killfiles in mail Date: 3 Jan 1996 04:47:50 GMT Message-Id: <4cd1pm$5gn@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> References: <49qtsg$8mf@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> <4c0i4j$qi9@news.orst.edu> <4c89pi$vs7@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article , Russ Allbery wrote: >In news.admin.misc, Trey Harris writes: >> I personally believe that killfiling an >> individual's email is crass and tactless, the equivalent of totally >> ignoring someone you know when you meet in person. > >You are fortunate to not have encountered some of the people I have sending >me e-mail. I hope you will remain so fortunate. Perhaps. Note I did say "individuals." When you say "people", do you mean the same? I have been forced to killfile mail from some of these advertising groups, especially those that routinely send all mail from an unreplyable address. My usual method of dealing with these, to contact postmaster at their address and postmaster at whichever site InterNIC says is giving them access, works less and less frequently these days -- I guess these assholes are getting more and more savvy about how to avoid proper netiquette (and accountability) entirely. But in most cases, email I don't want to receive can be split into two camps: harrassing email with no content (I consider unsolicited adverts to fall into this class), and email with content I don't want to read. In the first case, I feel comfortable killfiling the address, provided that the address is not one of my users. A mailbomb is an example that I think is beyond question. But in the second case, I have difficulty just shutting the person up. In my judgment, I don't want to hear what they have to say -- now. But what if that person needs to tell me about a security problem involving my site, or tell me some equally legitimate item? In the past month, I've had to deal with two of my users who accidentally broke a rule on two sites (MUDs, or BBS's or something). Neither had any malice at heart, they were just new to the net and computers in general and didn't know better. After they broke these rules, the operators -- I hesitate to call them "administrators" -- of both sites took the same action and banned our entire site (with over 27,000 users!). In one case, the user contacted me, and I contacted the operator and explained what was going on. The operator apologized for the misunderstanding, explained that the mistake my user made looked like a common way some users caused mischief on her site, and opened access back to our site. I warned my user to read all the helpfiles available on an unfamiliar site before gallavanting around it, and that was the end of the story. The other case wasn't so rosy. This user didn't come to me, instead he took matters into his own hands, and started sending very nasty email to the operator of the site. The operator killfiled him. He got one of his friends -- another undergraduate -- to send the operator email complaining. The operator killfiled her, as well. Even then the user didn't come to me. Instead, I had to learn about it through the complaints of twenty or so of my users for whom this was a favorite site. I did some investigating and learned the above story. As far as I was concerned, my user had behaved inappropriately and I was not going to go to bat for him. However, my other users had done nothing wrong, and to shut off access to potentially 27,000 people because of the actions of one seemed a bit rash. I assumed the operator simply did not know that my site had so many users. Perhaps I could convince the operator that disabling the user instead of the site was a better way to handle this. I sent the operator email, and was frustrated to learn that he had killfiled not just the two people who had sent him harassing email, not just my entire site, but the entire unc.edu domain! I had to pass email through a third party -- the postmaster of the operator's domain -- just to get the killfile released. (I suppose, given this inauspicious beginning, I should have seen it coming, but I was surprised when the operator chose not to follow my suggestion. He kept reciting, almost like a mantra, "It's my site, I'll do what I want. Maybe I made a mistake, but I'm not going to change it because it's my site, I'll do what I want..." Even after I informed him that my user would be disciplined for the harrassing mail, he maintained his ban on my site.) So what am I trying to say with these stories? That only s.o.b.'s killfile people? No; rather, my job -- the job of *communication* -- was made ridiculously difficult because some idiot decided that he was better than me, better than anyone at my site, and would have nothing to do with anything any of us had to say. As far as I'm concerned, the benefit gained from establishing killfiles against an individual's email is close to nil. The costs are much greater. I'm afraid setting up killfiles for mail from individuals -- real people -- feels to me like the king granting audience only to the worthy. -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris/ System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 03:21:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15696; Wed, 3 Jan 96 03:21:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14617; Wed, 3 Jan 96 03:14:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14611; Wed, 3 Jan 96 03:14:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXR5P-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 03:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Russ Allbery Subject: Re: Killfiles in mail Date: 03 Jan 1996 01:38:43 -0800 Message-Id: References: <49qtsg$8mf@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> <4c0i4j$qi9@news.orst.edu> In-Reply-To: harris@email.unc.edu's message of 3 Jan 1996 04:47:50 GMT Status: O X-Status: In news.admin.misc, Trey Harris writes: > Perhaps. Note I did say "individuals." When you say "people", do you > mean the same? I have been forced to killfile mail from some of these > advertising groups, especially those that routinely send all mail from an > unreplyable address. My usual method of dealing with these, to contact > postmaster at their address and postmaster at whichever site InterNIC says > is giving them access, works less and less frequently these days -- I > guess these assholes are getting more and more savvy about how to avoid > proper netiquette (and accountability) entirely. Yes, I do mean individuals; I haven't killfiled any advertising groups in mail simply because I rarely seem to receive mail from the same source twice. The situation that I encounter is that I killfile someone in news who is being abusive, blatently off-topic, or otherwise is not producing anything I am interested in reading, and said person (apparently figuring out that they are in my killfile in news) starts responding to various postings I make (not in response to him) in e-mail. The e-mail has the same complete lack of content and abusive language as the posts, so I killfile him in e-mail as well. In this case, I do not consider complaining to the person's postmaster to be appropriate. I firmly believe that if I post to Usenet, anyone is entitled to send me an e-mail response to my post. There is simply no guarantee that I'm going to read that e-mail. People also can be abusive if they wish; I just don't have to listen to it. > But in most cases, email I don't want to receive can be split into two > camps: harrassing email with no content (I consider unsolicited adverts > to fall into this class), and email with content I don't want to read. I wouldn't killfile e-mail just because I don't like what the person is saying. In that case, the e-mail is almost always a response to a post of mine, and I'll respond with a short message saying that I have no desire to discuss the issue via private e-mail, and that I would prefer that they post. I may ignore further e-mail on the same subject, but I wouldn't killfile them for that. I have been known to killfile in mail people who insist on sending me copies of any followup they make to my posts without marking the e-mail copy as a copy. (Insist meaning that they do it repeatedly with full knowledge of my preferences.) I consider that harassment without meaningful content (since the content is redundant). Note that I said "without marking the e-mail copy as a copy." I prefer not to receive e-mailed copies at all, but if it's marked as a copy, it's only a minor annoyance. > But what if that person needs to tell me about a security problem > involving my site, or tell me some equally legitimate item? I should point out that my incoming mail is split according to which address the mail was sent to, and administrative mail or any mail sent to a work address is not subjected to any form of score file. That means that even people I am ignoring entirely will still be able to reach me if it is a work-related matter, unless they incorrectly send me work mail to my personal e-mail address (this one). > So what am I trying to say with these stories? That only s.o.b.'s > killfile people? No; rather, my job -- the job of *communication* -- > was made ridiculously difficult because some idiot decided that he was > better than me, better than anyone at my site, and would have nothing to > do with anything any of us had to say. Yes, I agree there, which is why I always maintain a separate address that isn't subjected to any form of killfiles so that people with these kinds of issues can reach me. I don't advertise it in my .sig, since I would prefer not to receive responses to newsgroup posts at that address, but it is publically available from various obvious locations, so I have no doubt that someone such as yourself would be able to find it with little trouble. -- Russ Allbery (rra@cs.stanford.edu) http://www-leland.stanford.edu/~rra/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 03:27:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17756; Wed, 3 Jan 96 03:27:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13778; Wed, 3 Jan 96 04:29:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13772; Wed, 3 Jan 96 04:29:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXSH4-00038EC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 04:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ray DeJean Subject: Re: Filtering Mail Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 05:16:12 CDT References: <4cc5jt$5m8@driene.student.utwente.nl> In-Reply-To: <4cc5jt$5m8@driene.student.utwente.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jan 1996, Remco van de Meent wrote: > Gregory J. Hickel (gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu) wrote on Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:35:17 -0600: > > The help file on Unix Pine mentions using an external program to filter > > your mail. Could someone please direct me to these? Thanks! > > > > Ehmmmmmmmmm, so I'm _not_ the only one looking for this information.... > > please mail me if you get responses... Um, i don't think pine can filter mail by itself. If i'm wrong, someone please correct me, but show us how to do it! :) I believe the external program on unix is called procmail. i've never used it though...soooo...check out the mail filtering FAQ. it has pretty complete instructions on procmail, and some other external programs... http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html Later, Ray rdejean@selu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 12:12:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19152; Wed, 3 Jan 96 12:12:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16485; Wed, 3 Jan 96 05:09:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16479; Wed, 3 Jan 96 05:09:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXSrv-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 05:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christoph Krempe Subject: linux and pine Date: 3 Jan 1996 12:47:24 GMT Message-Id: <4cdtss$r5k@fu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I got some problem when I try to access my linux-mailserver via "open INBOX folder". The connection is refused with the message "Cant't open ,143 Refused (10061)". As I know, 143 is the port adress of the imap-service, described in the file /etc/services. If I try to connect to another mailserver on the campus it works, allthough it has the same port adress. Thanks for help Christoph Krempe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 12:38:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19482; Wed, 3 Jan 96 12:38:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16922; Wed, 3 Jan 96 05:44:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16916; Wed, 3 Jan 96 05:44:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXTT1-00038EC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 05:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pwalsh@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (Patrick Walsh) Subject: "Direct Talk Connection"??? Date: 3 Jan 1996 13:14:56 GMT Message-Id: <4cdvgg$1t9g@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Status: O X-Status: (My first posting; let's see if I can get the body of my article included this time!) Is there such a thing as 'direct talk connection' in Pine? If so, how does one establish it? Thanks- P. Walsh From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 12:44:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19567; Wed, 3 Jan 96 12:44:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14871; Wed, 3 Jan 96 05:44:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14863; Wed, 3 Jan 96 05:44:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXTQd-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 05:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pwalsh@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (Patrick Walsh) Subject: "Direct Talk Connection"??? Date: 3 Jan 1996 13:03:15 GMT Message-Id: <4cduqj$1t9g@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 12:44:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19595; Wed, 3 Jan 96 12:44:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14881; Wed, 3 Jan 96 05:44:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rasi.lr.ttu.ee by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14862; Wed, 3 Jan 96 05:44:40 -0800 Received: (from ksereda@localhost) by rasi.lr.ttu.ee (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA30759; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:34:56 +0200 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 15:34:53 +0200 (EET) From: Kirill Sereda To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Kirill Sereda Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi! First off all I am terrible sorry for my English. I live in Tallinn, it is the capital of Etonia and now I am studying at Tallinn Technical University. Please send me Pine Frequently Asked Question list. Also I want to ask you about one problem I've got. Now I am writing my final university work and the topic is "ISDN". If you can inorm me about information sourses I'll realy apprishiate it.Thank you! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 13:23:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20599; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:23:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15400; Wed, 3 Jan 96 06:17:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15394; Wed, 3 Jan 96 06:17:37 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:11:39 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA00279; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:14:09 GMT Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 14:14:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Patrick Walsh Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Direct Talk Connection"??? In-Reply-To: <4cdvgg$1t9g@pulp.ucs.ualberta.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If you mean "is there a way that I can persuade Pine to send characters from my keyboard as I type them to someone else's screen and vice versa" then the answer is "No". Pine is a message handling program for reading and sending electronic mail messages and Usenet News articles. For immediate two-way interactive "talking" you want to look at the "talk" or "ytalk" programs, or (possibly) an IRC (Internet Relay Chat) program. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 3 Jan 1996, Patrick Walsh wrote: > (My first posting; let's see if I can get the body of my article included > this time!) > > Is there such a thing as 'direct talk connection' in Pine? > > If so, how does one establish it? > > Thanks- > > P. Walsh > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 13:08:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22035; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:08:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16334; Wed, 3 Jan 96 07:14:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16328; Wed, 3 Jan 96 07:14:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXUts-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 07:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Philip Plant Subject: Pine for Vax/VMS Date: 3 Jan 1996 14:26:15 GMT Message-Id: <4ce3m7$m9h@yama.mcc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi folks, I'd just like to say thanks to everyone who replied to my plea for help with installing VMS Pine - the advice was greatly appreciated! Actually though, there is just one leetle problem I still have... Well actually it's a rather big one really, I've set the folder-collections variable to: [MYDIR.MAIL][] which is accepted at startup, but whenever pine tries to r/w to any folder except INBOX it bombs out with 'Pine internal error' . I've tried variations on this, but no luck. And if the variable is left undefined, I get: Folder "sent-mail" in doesn't exist. Create? And naturally it can't create it if I say yes. If anyone could give me a hand with this one I'd be really grateful! Thanks, Philip Plant, Computer Officer Silsoe College. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 13:54:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23677; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:54:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19102; Wed, 3 Jan 96 07:59:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19096; Wed, 3 Jan 96 07:59:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXVYW-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 07:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Philip Plant Subject: cmsg cancel <4ce3m7$m9h@yama.ac.uk> Control: cancel <4ce3m7$m9h@yama.ac.uk> Date: 3 Jan 1996 15:48:18 GMT Message-Id: <4ce8g2$sg2@yama.mcc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Control: cancel <4ce3m7$m9h@yama.ac.uk> This is a test of the 'cancel message' posting sent out earlier. If this message arrives in the newsgroup, then I guess it doesn't work. Philip. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 10:44:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24308; Wed, 3 Jan 96 10:44:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19292; Wed, 3 Jan 96 08:07:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [200.1.244.43] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19286; Wed, 3 Jan 96 08:07:27 -0800 Received: (from nalt@localhost) by petrus.ub.edu.ar (8.6.12/8.6.12) id NAA01053; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:03:07 -0300 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 13:03:07 -0300 (GMT-0300) From: "Norberto H. Altalef" To: PINE Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Message-Id header In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Let me do an aclaration on this subject. In order to simplify the administration, I have configure "sendmail" to hide the hostname in the mail address, so that an address of the form "name@host.domain" becomes "name@domain". But, the hostname still appears in the last part of the Message-ID header. I didn't find any way configuring sendmail or pine, to change it, to a form coherent with the mail address. (Sorry, but I'm not trying to forge the headers nor obscure the origin of a message). I will appreciate very much if someone could give me some help on this. > On Sun, 31 Dec 1995, Tim Pierce wrote: > In article , > Ed Greshko wrote: > > >On 31 Dec 1995, Jeff Mercer wrote: > > > >> nalt@ub.edu.ar ("Norberto H. Altalef") wrote: > >> > >> >I'm interested in hide the host name from it. > >> > >> What, tell you how to forge Message-ID headers so you can be a dickweed and > >> spam Usenet? Hah! Fuck off. > > > > Some people feel that to reveal their hostname can result in > >security problems. Their intentions are not as you cite. > > Those people are nimrods. Obscuring the origin of a message is a > security risk in its own right. Besides, if the nature of your > organization is so sensitive that even revealing the name of a > machine within it is dangerous, then simply removing it from the > Message-ID is not a sufficient solution. Post from a different > system. > > >In any case > >your use of profane language is inappropriate. > > Crap. > Many thanks Norberto Altalef From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 09:08:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26812; Wed, 3 Jan 96 09:08:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18720; Wed, 3 Jan 96 08:55:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18714; Wed, 3 Jan 96 08:55:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXWPn-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 08:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: BCC problem Date: 3 Jan 96 15:41:07 GMT Message-Id: References: <4ccr6k$p2q@netaxs.com> Status: O X-Status: jurist@netaxs.com (Jurist Inc.) writes: >Has anyone noticed that if you BCC someone, it tells the main receipient >of the message that you have done so? This doesn't sound like correct >behavior. I have heard in the past that under some circumstances pine will reveal something about bcc's, but I have never been able to catch it. Could you please document this more fully so I can warn my users about the problem. >email trevor@jurist.com -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 09:32:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27726; Wed, 3 Jan 96 09:32:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21525; Wed, 3 Jan 96 09:20:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21519; Wed, 3 Jan 96 09:20:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXWnh-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 09:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ernie Bailey Subject: Pine Distribution Lists Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:12:36 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am looking for some expertise in the area of mail distribution lists for pine. I would like all users of the system to be able to use these lists. I would also not like to have a To: field that is a quater of a mile long. Anyone with suggestions? Ernie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 09:50:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28603; Wed, 3 Jan 96 09:50:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21980; Wed, 3 Jan 96 09:36:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21974; Wed, 3 Jan 96 09:36:21 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 4 Jan 96 01:35:58 +0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:35:58 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "R. Stewart Ellis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: BCC problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 3 Jan 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > jurist@netaxs.com (Jurist Inc.) writes: > > >Has anyone noticed that if you BCC someone, it tells the main receipient > >of the message that you have done so? This doesn't sound like correct > >behavior. > > I have heard in the past that under some circumstances pine will reveal > something about bcc's, but I have never been able to catch it. Could you > please document this more fully so I can warn my users about the problem. > > >email trevor@jurist.com If memory serves me correctly I don't think it is a pine issue but is sendmailism. If you construct an email message with only a bcc the receipients will get a message with an "Apparently-To:" header that "reveals" all the receipients. Not all versions of sendmail cause this behaviour....if memory serves me correctly. Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 11:25:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03428; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:25:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23034; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:20:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23020; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:20:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXYiY-00038IC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@biocserver.BIOC.CWRU.Edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: linux and pine Date: 3 Jan 1996 18:30:44 GMT Message-Id: References: <4cdtss$r5k@fu-berlin.de> Status: O X-Status: On 3 Jan 1996 12:47:24 GMT, Christoph Krempe wrote: >I got some problem when I try to access my linux-mailserver via "open >INBOX folder". The connection is refused with the message >"Cant't open ,143 Refused (10061)". As I know, 143 is the port >adress of the imap-service, described in the file /etc/services. If I try >to connect to another mailserver on the campus it works, allthough it has >the same port adress. Are you running an IMAP daemon on the "linux-mailserver"? If you are not, imapd source code can be found with the rest of the Pine distribution from ftp.cac.washington.edu. It compiles and works under Linux without complaint. Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar http://biocserver.bioc.cwru.edu/pp/aiyar/aiyar.html -- "... freedom ... is a worship word..." "It is our worship word too." -- Cloud William and Kirk, "The Omega Glory", stardate unknown From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 11:25:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03468; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:25:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25121; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:20:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25115; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:20:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXYiY-00038HC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pixel@cclabs.missouri.edu (James Cooper) Subject: locking folders w/procmail Date: 3 Jan 1996 18:08:48 GMT Message-Id: <4cegng$fsi@news.missouri.edu> Status: O X-Status: I'm using procmail to sort my mail with pine, and it's working fine. However, as the procmail FAQ warns, I invalidate my INBOX if I delete a message from it while procmail is delivering a new piece of mail. The FAQ advises implementing a file locking scheme, but then doesn't explain how. Has anyone done this sucessfully? My system is using NFS on IRIX 5.3, so I'm not sure if flock() works successfully in this environment. Any help appreciated.. -- James -- ......................................................................... James Paul Cooper * Pixel MU College of Education pixel@coe.missouri.edu - http://tiger.coe.missouri.edu/~pixel/ ......................................................................... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 11:27:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03586; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:27:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23016; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:20:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23010; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:20:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXYiX-00038EC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 11:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sinners@netcom.com (Steve Inners) Subject: Please help: Pine Panic Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:40:57 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am attempting to run Pine 3.91 on an AT&T Unix 3.2.2 system. I have been successful in utilizing SCO binaries for many other applications and O/S utilities on this system. However, the SCO binary of Pine does not seem to be so cooperative. I have tried getting information to locate a binary specifically for this platform, but have gotten no responses :( ... I must assume no such binary exists. I have no development capabilities on this platform either (no compiler). So ... here is the problem specifically. I run the Pine binary and get to a main menu. The Inbox begins to open and I get a beep. The Pine session then ends with an error: Pine Panic: Select error: Invalid arguement It tries to write out to //.pine-crash .. but fails to do so. The .pinerc file never gets created either .... although it will read it if I create one for it. There are some other pinerc files that are created, but appear to be more like temporary files .... pinerca006610 and pinerc006610 are two examples. I have tried to set the "set uid" and "set gid" bits to correct the error of being unable to write to //.pinerc .. no luck. I can substitute various AT&T binaries for their SCO equivelant .. if I knew where to start .. the entire mmdf and mailx systems are already the SCO binaries! Regular mail works well BTW. Here is the pine debug file from level 9 debugging ... if it helps to point me in the right direction. TIA! ============ pine-debug1 (level 9) ================================= Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 9). Version 3.91 Wed Jan 3 10:23:16 1996 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Open failed: No such file or directory reading_pinerc "//.pinerc" Open failed: No such file or directory reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Open failed: No such file or directory set_current_val(var num=5, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=2, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=27, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=36, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=28, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=29, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=30, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=31, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=33, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=34, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=9, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=10, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=12, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=25, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=26, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=3, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=smtp-server set_current_val(var num=18, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=default-composer-hdrs set_current_val(var num=19, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=customized-hdrs set_current_val(var num=37, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=38, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=13, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=24, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=14, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=global-address-book set_current_val(var num=15, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=address-book counted 1 items set_current_val(var num=4, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=nntp-server set_current_val(var num=32, expand=1, cmdline=1) write_pinerc: personal-name = write_pinerc: user-domain = write_pinerc: smtp-server = write_pinerc: nntp-server = write_pinerc: inbox-path = write_pinerc: incoming-folders = write_pinerc: folder-collections = write_pinerc: news-collections = write_pinerc: default-fcc = write_pinerc: postponed-folder = write_pinerc: read-message-folder = write_pinerc: signature-file = write_pinerc: global-address-book = write_pinerc: address-book = write_pinerc: feature-list = write_pinerc: initial-keystroke-list = write_pinerc: default-composer-hdrs = write_pinerc: customized-hdrs = write_pinerc: saved-msg-name-rule = write_pinerc: fcc-name-rule = write_pinerc: sort-key = write_pinerc: addrbook-sort-rule = write_pinerc: character-set = write_pinerc: editor = write_pinerc: image-viewer = write_pinerc: use-only-domain-name = write_pinerc: printer = write_pinerc: personal-print-command = write_pinerc: last-time-prune-questioned = write_pinerc: last-version-used = 3.91 q_status_message, Count 1, "Error saving configuration in file "//.pinerc": Invalid argument" Error writing //.pinerc : Invalid argument set_current_val(var num=35, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=41, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=11, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=6, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=incoming-folders set_current_val(var num=8, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=news-collections set_current_val(var num=7, expand=1, cmdline=1) is_list: name=folder-collections set_current_val(var num=22, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=20, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=21, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=23, expand=1, cmdline=1) set_current_val(var num=17, expand=0, cmdline=1) is_list: name=initial-keystroke-list ======= Current_val options set ======= inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : ppnd-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (//.pinerc) ======= last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : ppnd-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys Userid: root Fullname: "0000-Admin(0000)" User domain name being used "" Local Domain name being used "unix" Host name being used "unix" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"unix" write_pinerc: personal-name = write_pinerc: user-domain = write_pinerc: smtp-server = write_pinerc: nntp-server = write_pinerc: inbox-path = write_pinerc: incoming-folders = write_pinerc: folder-collections = write_pinerc: news-collections = write_pinerc: default-fcc = write_pinerc: postponed-folder = write_pinerc: read-message-folder = write_pinerc: signature-file = write_pinerc: global-address-book = write_pinerc: address-book = write_pinerc: feature-list = write_pinerc: initial-keystroke-list = write_pinerc: default-composer-hdrs = write_pinerc: customized-hdrs = write_pinerc: saved-msg-name-rule = write_pinerc: fcc-name-rule = write_pinerc: sort-key = write_pinerc: addrbook-sort-rule = write_pinerc: character-set = write_pinerc: editor = write_pinerc: image-viewer = write_pinerc: use-only-domain-name = write_pinerc: printer = write_pinerc: personal-print-command = write_pinerc: last-time-prune-questioned = write_pinerc: last-version-used = 3.91 q_status_message, Count 2, "Error saving configuration in file "//.pinerc": Invalid argument" Error writing //.pinerc : Invalid argument Context mail/[] type: LOCAL Terminal type: ansi Scroll mode: InsertDelete Context mail/[] type: LOCAL ***** context mail/[] LABEL: mail/[] 1) inbox set_titlebar - style: 0 current message cnt:1 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(0) returns:0 Y [Yes] 0 1 N No 0 2 (null) (null) 14 3 (null) (null) 14 4 (null) (null) 27 5 (null) (null) 27 6 (null) (null) 41 7 (null) (null) 41 8 (null) (null) 55 9 (null) (null) 55 10 (null) (null) 69 11 (null) (null) 69 row: -2, real_row: 23, column: 0 Select readfds:1 timeval:0,0 Select on tty returned -1 end_screen called about to end_tty_driver end_signals(1) Pine Panic: Select error: Invalid argument save_debug_on_crash: Version 3.91: debug level 9 : Wed Jan 3 10:23:23 1996 Attempting to save debug file to //.pine-crash -- -Steve sinners@netcom.com ################################################### I brew, therefore I am. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 12:51:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08162; Wed, 3 Jan 96 12:51:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27892; Wed, 3 Jan 96 12:45:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27886; Wed, 3 Jan 96 12:45:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXa2O-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 12:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine clips first 2 characters of folder names. Ideas? Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:46:04 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4cbnfu$t25@dgis.dtic.dla.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 3 Jan 1996, R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > >You lucky person. You must be running Solaris. You need to rebuild Pine, > >but first in the Makefile set "cc" to be "ucbcc" (which, in spite of the > >name, is the compiler that you use to compile SVR4 compliant programs). > > This is very bad advice. > > It is best to completely avoid ucbcc. The specific symptom reported is the > result of confounding includes and libs between the standard SVR4 > environment and the incompletely and improperly done "bsd src compat" cruft. > > A properly configed and compiled Solaris program does not need any of the > crap that ucbcc contaminates things with. > > Everyone who compiles things for SunOS 5.x should get a copy of the "Solaris > Porting FAQ" from the FAQ place. Uh, excuse me. ucbcc *is* the standard SVR4 compiler. In spite of the name, it has nothing to do with BSD source compatibility. The name is a link to something like /opt/SUNWspro/SC3.0.1/bin/acc Depending upon how the system was installed, "cc" runs either ucbcc or the BSD source compatibility compiler, which often is a script such as cc5 that specifies all the BSD libraries. Pine *is* "properly configured" for SVR4 on Solaris. The problem is getting it to compile right. And the only way to do that is to avoid using "cc", which has unpredictable results, and invoke the compiler by a name that is not going to include the BSD libraries. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 13:09:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09481; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:09:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26752; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:05:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26746; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:05:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXaKg-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stf@altair.com (Steve Ferguson) Subject: Re: BCC problem Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:15:31 GMT Message-Id: <4ceo53$dn8@frankensun.altair.com> References: Status: O X-Status: On 3 Jan 1996 09:49:21 -0800, Ed Greshko wrote: > If memory serves me correctly I don't think it is a pine issue > but is sendmailism. If you construct an email message with only a bcc > the receipients will get a message with an "Apparently-To:" header that > "reveals" all the receipients. Not all versions of sendmail cause this > behaviour....if memory serves me correctly. You're right, it's a sendmail-ism. If you construct a message that isn't actually *to* anybody (with no To: line), some versions of sendmail will tack on the 'Apparently To:' bit from your bcc:. Of course, I question the sanity of anyone sending out totally blind messages with no To: (at least a group name or some such would seem in order). :-) -- ============================================================================= Steve Ferguson | Altair Engineering/Altair Computing Systems Analyst | Troy, Michigan 48084 USA stf@altair.com | (810)614-2400 x297 ============================================================================= Back-up: Current data errors that have been saved for future use. Crash: A normal termination. Loop: See Loop. Password: The nonsense word taped to your terminal. ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 13:11:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09686; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:11:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28678; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:05:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28672; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:05:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXaLF-00038EC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stf@altair.com (Steve Ferguson) Subject: Re: Filtering Mail Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:12:41 GMT Message-Id: <4cenvp$dn8@frankensun.altair.com> References: <4cc5jt$5m8@driene.student.utwente.nl> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Jan 1996 20:46:53 GMT, Remco van de Meent wrote: > Gregory J. Hickel (gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu) wrote on Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:35:17 -0600: > > The help file on Unix Pine mentions using an external program to filter > > your mail. Could someone please direct me to these? Thanks! > > > Ehmmmmmmmmm, so I'm _not_ the only one looking for this information.... It's referring to other programs, run independently of pine. Procmail is one, filter is another. On most UNIX systems, you can create a .forward file on your mail server and set it up to forward your mail to a program which divides your mail into separate boxes (or takes a variety of other definable actions) depending on various criteria in your incoming mail. For more information, run a gopher or archie search on 'procmail' and you'll surely find what you want. -- ============================================================================= Steve Ferguson | Altair Engineering/Altair Computing Systems Analyst | Troy, Michigan 48084 USA stf@altair.com | (810)614-2400 x297 ============================================================================= Back-up: Current data errors that have been saved for future use. Crash: A normal termination. Loop: See Loop. Password: The nonsense word taped to your terminal. ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 13:19:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10094; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:19:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27054; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:15:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27048; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:15:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXaVq-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stf@altair.com (Steve Ferguson) Subject: Re: Pine clips first 2 characters of folder names. Ideas? Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:25:40 GMT Message-Id: <4ceoo4$dn8@frankensun.altair.com> References: <4cbnfu$t25@dgis.dtic.dla.mil> Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 Jan 1996 11:46:04 -0800, Mark Crispin wrote: > > Everyone who compiles things for SunOS 5.x should get a copy of the "Solaris > > Porting FAQ" from the FAQ place. > Uh, excuse me. > ucbcc *is* the standard SVR4 compiler. In spite of the name, it has > nothing to do with BSD source compatibility. The name is a link to > something like /opt/SUNWspro/SC3.0.1/bin/acc Uh, no. You're wrong. ucbcc is a link to acc in the SparcWorks distribution. cc is a completely separate (and *MUCH* smaller) binary. >From the acc man page: acc (SPARC only) is not intended to be used directly on ^^^ Solaris 2.x. The sole purpose for making it available on Solaris 2.x is to enable /usr/ucb/cc. The package SUNWscpu must be installed to use this. The options for /usr/ucb/cc are the same as for acc and are described here. > Depending upon how the system was installed, "cc" runs either ucbcc or the > BSD source compatibility compiler, which often is a script such as cc5 > that specifies all the BSD libraries. The cc in /usr/ucb is also wrong, because it adds /usr/ucblib to the LD_RUN_PATH. This contains BSD libraries. The only correct way to run the SparcWorks compiler is to have the particular path it was installed in in your path. From the 'real' cc man page: The cc(1) manual page describes the ANSI C compiler options that are SVID compliant under Solaris 2.x. cc uses getopt to parse command line options. Options are treated as a single letter or as a single letter followed by an argument. See getopt(3c). However, Pine *is* properly configured for Solaris. The original poster's administrator, on the other hand, is not. :-) -- ============================================================================= Steve Ferguson | Altair Engineering/Altair Computing Systems Analyst | Troy, Michigan 48084 USA stf@altair.com | (810)614-2400 x297 ============================================================================= Back-up: Current data errors that have been saved for future use. Crash: A normal termination. Loop: See Loop. Password: The nonsense word taped to your terminal. ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 13:36:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10941; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:36:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29478; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:30:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29472; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:30:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXah7-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Svante Kleist Subject: Re: Pine and POP3 Date: 3 Jan 1996 20:08:01 GMT Message-Id: <4cenn1$dje@news.pi.se> References: <4bhrb9$r5k@nntp3.news.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Bob Nielsen wrote: >I saw some messages recently about using Pine with POP3. Pine won't directly >talk to a pop server Indeed he does talk POP3 directly to the POP3 server. Enter "{your.pop.server/pop3}INBOX" in SETUP -> CONFIG -> inbox-path Works fine for me in PINE 3.91 under Linux. B T W: Is there no later version than 3.91? /Svante Kleist From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 13:58:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11696; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:58:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28092; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:49:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28063; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:49:06 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA20843 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:49:03 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 22:45:26 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: Marshall Hollister-Jones Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Crashes on Sco In-Reply-To: <30EA3D92.844@enternet.co.nz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Marshall Hollister-Jones wrote: > I've installed a pine 3.91 binary compiled for Sco on SCO 3.2v4.2. > It runs fine from the console or a dial-up PC emulating Wuse60 but > crashes on ANY of our terminals (mix of tvi925, wyse60, wyse120). > Here is the last few lines of debug output on each occasion: > [log deleted...] > Clearly there is an error with "Select on tty" but what does this > mean and how do I fix it? I wondered about hand-shaking as our > terminals use Xon/Xoff. Also we don't have tcp/ip. We use Pine on all SCO versions exept Xenix (until now) with success. If you have difficulty's with terminals, checkout the terminfo-file first, look for the correct value of cursorkeys to be filled in. In case the cursorkeys are not working, you can allways use F(orward), B(ackward), P(revious), N(ext) and so on. On a system _without_ TCP/IP we use a (dirty) trick: make a link from /dev/null to /dev/socksys :-) we use Pine there as MUA only. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GOOD HEALTH, HAPPINESS, SAFETY AND PROSPERITY FOR 1996 ! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 14:06:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12209; Wed, 3 Jan 96 14:06:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28543; Wed, 3 Jan 96 14:00:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28537; Wed, 3 Jan 96 14:00:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXbCv-00038HC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 13:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flavell@vxcern.cern.ch (Alan J. Flavell) Subject: Re: Pine for Vax/VMS Message-Id: References: <4ce3m7$m9h@yama.mcc.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 20:46:09 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <4ce3m7$m9h@yama.mcc.ac.uk>, Philip Plant writes: > just one leetle problem I still have... Well actually it's a rather big one really, >I've set the folder-collections variable to: [MYDIR.MAIL][] which is >accepted at >startup, but whenever pine tries to r/w to any folder except INBOX it >bombs out with >'Pine internal error' . I've tried variations on this, but no >luck. And if >the variable is left undefined, I get: > >Folder "sent-mail" in doesn't exist. Create? > >And naturally it can't create it if I say yes. You may have overlooked it in the morass of WWW writeup that I pointed you to at http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html, but there are several configuration fields that you have to get just exactly right - this VMS port of PINE does not support other values. Your symptom looks to me like you still have the default Fcc: configured. This does not work and you must turn it off. The work-around is to add a "customized header" of BCC: to your own email address, assuming that you want to keep a copy of your sent mail. I'd suggest go over my writeup again and get the settings to the ones that I list there. Hope that helps. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 15:10:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15315; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:10:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02463; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:05:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02457; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:05:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXcDH-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike O'Connor Message-Id: <960103215235.AA12568@dojo> Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:52:35 GMT Subject: Is "cc:" any more or less valid than "Cc:" or "CC:"? Status: O X-Status: I'm running into a situation where I THINK a particular MUA -- let's call it "pine 3.91" -- emits "cc:" headers that don't get processed by the metoo functionality of an MTA which shall be known as "smail 3.1.29". Is "cc:" any more or less valid than "Cc:" or "CC:" or something which starts with a capital letter? My reading of RFC 822 says that "cc:" is quite valid -- is it possibly deprecated in some later RFC? ...Mike -- Michael J. O'Connor Internet: mjo@dojo.mi.org InterNIC WHOIS: MJO http://www.coast.net/~mjo "The longer you wait for the mail, the less there is in it." -Calvin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 15:26:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15892; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:26:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01176; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:20:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01170; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:20:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXcSE-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tbordia@freenet.scri.fsu.edu (Luis Montenegro) Subject: Folder in PINE 3.91 Date: Wed, 03 Jan 96 17:24:32 GMT Message-Id: <4cee6b$f8f@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello. I created a folder "x" in PINE but I don't know how to leave messages in that folder or how to transfer messages to that folder. Thank you for your help, Luis. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 15:33:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16154; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:33:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03099; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:30:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03093; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:30:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXccx-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elynk@Capital.Net (Edgar Lynk) Subject: How move .addressbook between providers? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:00:37 GMT Status: O X-Status: Recently I changed providers and wanted to use my collection of email addresses at the new site. However, the new provider's Pine (same version as at old site) would not accept the old .addressbook from the old provider. Addresses were not properly placed in the correct columnar format. I transferred .address- book to/from my PC with sz/rz. Is it possible that some control characters were affected? Any suggestions? Thanks, ET From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 15:35:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16307; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:35:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01468; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:30:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01462; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:30:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXccy-00038EC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 15:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bwrob%bwrob@smartt.com (root) Subject: Lenght of posting in pine? Date: 3 Jan 1996 22:41:41 GMT Message-Id: <4cf0n5$rnv@ktk2.smartt.com> Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 16:48:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19620; Wed, 3 Jan 96 16:48:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05035; Wed, 3 Jan 96 16:46:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05029; Wed, 3 Jan 96 16:45:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXdkb-00038CC; Wed, 3 Jan 96 16:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ahuber@csulb.edu (Adam Huber) Subject: Talk-How do I backspace??? Date: 3 Jan 1996 23:36:07 GMT Message-Id: <4cf3t7$l41@garuda.csulb.edu> Status: O X-Status: When I am "talking" to someone on the system, the backspace does not work properly. Instead of backspacing like it normally does when I use Pine, it gives me some garbage like ^[O . I am using Mac Kermit 0.991 on a Quadra 610, but it does the same thing on my 386 at home using Windows for Workgroup's Terminal program. Other computers I have used on campus actually backspace when you are "talking" and type the Backspace key, so I know it is possible. I am thinking it has something to do with key assignment. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Adam Huber Student California State University Long Beach Internet Address: ahuber@csulb.edu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 17:04:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20752; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:04:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05437; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:01:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05429; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:01:50 -0800 Received: from teco10a by teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de (8.6.12) id BAA19407; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 01:59:36 +0100 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 02:01:27 +0100 (MET) From: Gerhard Heijenga X-Sender: heijenga@teco10a To: Remco van de Meent Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Filtering Mail In-Reply-To: <4cc5jt$5m8@driene.student.utwente.nl> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: at the www page http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/groups/comp/mail/pine/ you can find some interesting comments obout filtering with pine. - pine itself does not filter mail. you need procmail or filter or ... happy new year ___________________________________________________________________________________ Gerhard Heijenga eMail: heijenga@teco.uni-karlsruhe.de Veilchenstr. 9 76131 Karlsruhe Tel./Fax: 0721-617906 On 2 Jan 1996, Remco van de Meent wrote: > Gregory J. Hickel (gjhickel@server.wulaw.wustl.edu) wrote on Thu, 28 Dec 1995 11:35:17 -0600: > > The help file on Unix Pine mentions using an external program to filter > > your mail. Could someone please direct me to these? Thanks! > > > > Ehmmmmmmmmm, so I'm _not_ the only one looking for this information.... > > please mail me if you get responses... > > thanx > > -- > Remco van de Meent. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 17:38:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22441; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:38:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04980; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:35:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hp_open.open.org by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04974; Wed, 3 Jan 96 17:35:45 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by hp_open.open.org (8.7/8.7) id RAA09085 for ; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 17:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown(199.2.104.14) by hp_open.open.org via smap (V1.3) id sma009082; Wed Jan 3 17:33:00 1996 Message-Id: <30EB2F61.7026@open.org> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 17:37:37 -0800 From: Pete Ross Organization: Shades of Koi X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: BinHex4 (Help!) X-Url: http://peteross@opengovt.open.org/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: My Web Master sent me an executive file that I need to put my Home page into the server. But when I tried to run it from HotDog, the top of the file read: "You need BinHex40 to convert this file." I have been all over the Internet trying to find this file, for my IBM Pentium, but have been unable to find it. Can you help me? I really need this file. Sincerely; Pete Ross From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 3 19:01:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25187; Wed, 3 Jan 96 19:01:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08258; Wed, 3 Jan 96 18:59:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jaguar1.usouthal.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08252; Wed, 3 Jan 96 18:59:24 -0800 Received: by jaguar1.usouthal.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02312; Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:04:44 -0600 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 21:04:43 -0600 (CST) From: Cha Chun Mok Subject: Re: BinHex4 (Help!) To: Pete Ross Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30EB2F61.7026@open.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1 Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 00:45:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02145; Thu, 4 Jan 96 00:45:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12151; Thu, 4 Jan 96 00:42:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12143; Thu, 4 Jan 96 00:42:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXlCD-00038CC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 00:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: BinHex4 (Help!) Date: Wed, 3 Jan 1996 23:31:18 -0800 Message-Id: References: <30EB2F61.7026@open.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30EB2F61.7026@open.org> Status: O X-Status: On 3 Jan 1996, Pete Ross wrote: > My Web Master sent me an executive file that I need to put my Home page > into the server. But when I tried to run it from HotDog, the top of the > file read: "You need BinHex40 to convert this file." I have been all > over the Internet trying to find this file, for my IBM Pentium, but have > been unable to find it. Can you help me? I really need this file. BinHex 4.0 is a macintosh program. It is very old, and its function is duplicated in most expander utilities. You should either find a mac and use a program like Stuffit or Stuffit Expander to decond/uncompress the file and then write it onto a DOS disk, or try to find a version of Stuffit for the PC, which I think is now available. A binhexed file has ".hqx" tacked onto the end of the name. Perhaps you have already dealt with such files? Ian Ollmann From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 01:24:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03014; Thu, 4 Jan 96 01:24:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12677; Thu, 4 Jan 96 01:19:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12665; Thu, 4 Jan 96 01:19:08 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 4 Jan 96 17:18:41 +0800 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:18:40 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Pine Info Subject: Pine and NCSA Telnet on MAC Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I'm not a MACer....and I'm sure this has been answered before but I did not commit the answer to memory. A friend in Singapore is having trouble with pine on an HP machine to which he is connecting via NCSA's Telnet. He states: I have a few problems with the HP system. the most annoying is that fact that C does not cancel a message in pine or end a man session, but hangs my telnet window. The message I get is process interupted. So, the answer is???? Thanks, Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 03:43:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05667; Thu, 4 Jan 96 03:43:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14339; Thu, 4 Jan 96 03:24:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from obelix.unicamp.br by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14326; Thu, 4 Jan 96 03:23:52 -0800 Received: by obelix.unicamp.br (5.0/SMI-SVR4-DNI-8.0) id AA18025; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:23:40 -0200 From: fribeiro@obelix.unicamp.br (Fernando Souza Ribeiro - SCON - R.7520) Message-Id: <9601041123.AA18025@obelix.unicamp.br> Subject: Problem delivering mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 09:23:39 -0200 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 7740 Status: O X-Status: Hi, When I use PINE to send mail, my address is being defined as "fribeiro@obelix.obelix.unicamp.br" when the correct form would be "fribeiro@obelix.unicamp.br". How can I correct this ? Certainly, it is one of the options of the configuration module, isn't it ? But, there are so many ... :-) and no one so intuitive ... How can I set the correct form for all the users ? Thanks in advance. Fernando P.S : the problem doesn't happen when I use "ELM" or "mail -v" . I put below one .pine-debug1 example. I hope that it helps you : -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.91 Wed Jan 3 10:09:15 1996 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Open failed: No such file or directory reading_pinerc "/home/obelix/ccuec/conect/fribeiro/.pinerc" Read 5433 characters: reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Open failed: No such file or directory ======= Current_val options set ======= inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 95.9 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/obelix/ccuec/conect/fribeiro/.pinerc) ======= last-time-prune-ques : 95.9 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys Userid: fribeiro Fullname: "Fernando Souza Ribeiro - SCON - R.7520" User domain name being used "" Local Domain name being used "obelix" Host name being used "obelix" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"obelix" Context mail/[] type: LOCAL ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument Terminal type: vt100 Context mail/[] type: LOCAL About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" Opened folder "/var/mail/fribeiro" with 23 messages Sorting by Arrival Want_to read: y (121) Want_to read: y (121) IMAP 10:9 1/3 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /home/obelix/ccuec/conect/fribeiro/.pine-interrupted-mail - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- - mailcap_free - ---- COMPOSE SCREEN (not in pico yet) ---- IMAP 10:9 1/3 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /home/obelix/ccuec/conect/fribeiro/.pine-interrupted-mail === send called === ---- COMPOSER ---- - build_address - -- init_addrbooks(Closed, 0, 0, 1) -- - adrbk_open(.addressbook) - Address book .addressbook (.addressbook) opened with 0 items - adrbk_lookup_by_addr(fribeiro@turing.unicamp.br) (in /home/obelix/ccuec/conect/fribeiro/.addressbook) - - build_address - ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument === calling sendmail === done. Send SUCCESSFUL. To: fribeiro@turing.unicamp.br Subject: teste fribeiro via pine Message ID: - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- Want_to read: c (99) - mailcap_free - User domain name being used "" Local Domain name being used "obelix" Host name being used "obelix" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"obelix" Want_to read: c (99) - mailcap_free - - mailcap_free - ---- COMPOSE SCREEN (not in pico yet) ---- IMAP 10:13 1/3 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /home/obelix/ccuec/conect/fribeiro/.pine-interrupted-mail === send called === ---- COMPOSER ---- - build_address - - adrbk_lookup_by_addr(fribeiro@turing.unicamp.br) (in /home/obelix/ccuec/conect/fribeiro/.addressbook) - - build_address - ioctl(TIOCWINSZ) failed :Invalid argument === calling sendmail === done. Send SUCCESSFUL. To: fribeiro@turing.unicamp.br Subject: teste 2 fribeiro obelix Message ID: - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- ---- HELPER ---- Helptext Failed open "/usr/local/lib/pine.info": "No such file or directory" Sorting by Arrival ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- ----- MAIL VIEW ----- done. ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- MAIL_CMD: going back to main menu - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- Want_to read: u (117) About to open folder "*{pine.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}updates" inbox: "INBOX" Close - saved inbox state: max 24 IMAP mm_notify NIL : *{pine.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}updates : ftp1.cac.washington.edu IMAP2bis Service 7.8(97) at Wed, 3 Jan 1996 04:17:26 -0800 (PST) Opened folder "*{pine.cac.washington.edu}updates" with 8 messages Sorting by Arrival ---- MAIL INDEX ---- ---- INDEX MANAGER ---- MAIL_CMD: going back to main menu - mailcap_free - ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- Want_to read: c (99) - mailcap_free - Want_to read: c (99) - mailcap_free - ---- REPORTING BUG ("Pine Developers" ) ---- Want_to read: (32) ---- QUIT SCREEN ---- Want_to read: y (121) expunge and close mail stream "*{pine.cac.washington.edu}updates" IMAP mm_notify bye : *{pine.cac.washington.edu}updates : ftp1.cac.washington.edu IMAP2bis server terminating connection expunge and close mail stream "/var/mail/fribeiro" about to end_tty_driver - completely_done_with_adrbks - - mailcap_free - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 05:03:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08063; Thu, 4 Jan 96 05:03:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15694; Thu, 4 Jan 96 04:42:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15688; Thu, 4 Jan 96 04:42:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXoxP-00038CC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 04:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfg@tcp.co.uk (Doug Johnson) Subject: Re: How move .addressbook between providers? Date: 4 Jan 1996 11:43:39 GMT Message-Id: <4cgehb$jpf@spieg.interealm.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Edgar Lynk (elynk@Capital.Net) wrote: % Recently I changed providers and wanted to use my % collection of email addresses at the new site. % However, the new provider's Pine (same version as at % old site) would not accept the old .addressbook from % the old provider. Addresses were not properly placed % in the correct columnar format. I transferred .address- % book to/from my PC with sz/rz. Is it possible that % some control characters were affected? Any suggestions? % Thanks, ET I think you can salvage what you have with some editing. When I look at my address book the fields are delimited by tabs between each. I would assume your transfer changed these in some way. A fair guess would be that your tabs were changed to white space. If you have an editor that will reveal hiden codes look and see how each field is delimited now. With this information you can decide what you need to do. -- Doug sfg@spieg.interealm.com Any day I wake up without a tag on my toe is a good day! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 05:09:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08155; Thu, 4 Jan 96 05:09:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17429; Thu, 4 Jan 96 05:02:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17423; Thu, 4 Jan 96 05:02:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXpGu-00038CC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 04:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lslawe@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Lauren T. Slawe) Subject: help with pine Date: 4 Jan 1996 12:27:02 GMT Message-Id: <4cgh2m$gqj@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi! Iwas wondering if there was somewhere I could pick up a manual entry for pine. I don't use pine, but friends of mine do, and since this is their first foray into unix, I thought I'd send them something to read about pine. i found a ftp site: pine.cac.washington.edu, but I can't seem to "get" anything; permission denied. Is there any sort of general overview on it, (literally how to use it, making aliases, customizing it, etc. We're not talking sysadmin stuff, or installation, just info on using it and learning how to work with it. I'd welcome any posts on the subject, but since I don't get the chance to check newsgroups, perhaps those posts could be directly mailed to me at lslawe@mail.sas.upenn.edu. Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! --- Lauren Slawe University of Pennsylvania Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, Department of Anthropology Go Penn CYCLING! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 05:15:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08271; Thu, 4 Jan 96 05:15:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15975; Thu, 4 Jan 96 05:02:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15969; Thu, 4 Jan 96 05:02:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXpHK-00038EC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 05:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lslawe@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Lauren T. Slawe) Subject: Re: Pine and NCSA Telnet on MAC Date: 4 Jan 1996 12:32:33 GMT Message-Id: <4cghd1$gqj@netnews.upenn.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Ed Greshko (Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com) wrote: [stuff deleted] : He states: : I have a few problems with the HP system. the most annoying is : that fact that C does not cancel a message in pine or : end a man session, but hangs my telnet window. The message I : get is process interupted. : So, the answer is???? : Thanks, : Ed NCSA Telnet already assigns functions to the ^C,^S and ^Z keys. Fortunately you can change that yourself. Go up to the Session menu and choose "setup keys" Erase what's in them, or choose others. Now ^C should work, as it now gets to use the function that unix assigns to it. Hope this works. Lauren Slawe --- Lauren Slawe University of Pennsylvania Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, Department of Anthropology Go Penn CYCLING! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 05:57:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09042; Thu, 4 Jan 96 05:57:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16520; Thu, 4 Jan 96 05:43:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16508; Thu, 4 Jan 96 05:43:09 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:41:12 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id NAA15215; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:42:40 GMT Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 13:42:40 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Lauren T. Slawe" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help with pine In-Reply-To: <4cgh2m$gqj@netnews.upenn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Use anonymous ftp to ftp.cac.washington.edu Pick up the source code kit for Pine. Unpack all of it (or, if you know how, extract just the following file). Find the manual page in doc/pine.1 Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 4 Jan 1996, Lauren T. Slawe wrote: > Hi! Iwas wondering if there was somewhere I could pick up a manual entry > for pine. I don't use pine, but friends of mine do, and since this is > their first foray into unix, I thought I'd send them something to read > about pine. i found a ftp site: pine.cac.washington.edu, but I can't > seem to "get" anything; permission denied. > > Is there any sort of general overview on it, (literally how to use it, > making aliases, customizing it, etc. We're not talking sysadmin stuff, > or installation, just info on using it and learning how to work with it. > > Thanks in advance for any help you can offer! > > --- > Lauren Slawe > University of Pennsylvania > Graduate School of Arts and Sciences, Department of Anthropology > Go Penn CYCLING! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 09:29:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15783; Thu, 4 Jan 96 09:29:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22651; Thu, 4 Jan 96 09:23:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22645; Thu, 4 Jan 96 09:23:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXtJT-00038CC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 09:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bill@linet02.li.net (Bill Groppe) Subject: Problems compiling on Solaris 2.4 Sparc 20 Date: 4 Jan 1996 15:22:45 GMT Message-Id: <4cgrc5$arb@linet02.li.net> Status: O X-Status: Any help would be greatly appreciated!! After much fiddling around I got pine 3.91 to compile on my Sparc 20 running solaris 2.4. However, pine with display the headers from received messages, but not show the message text. Also if I try to send mail pine dumps core. The code seems to call ioctl with flags no longer support in 2.4. I've traced the one of the problems to the outbound filter on the message text. It references &c and dies immediatly. Thanks for you help! Bill@li.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 09:38:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16298; Thu, 4 Jan 96 09:38:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21171; Thu, 4 Jan 96 09:23:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21165; Thu, 4 Jan 96 09:23:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXtJU-00038EC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 09:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Johan Bergstr|m Subject: subject default Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:48:42 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I was just wondering if there is any way to create a default subject line for a particular address. I'm using Pine 3.90 on unix Thanks Johan ---------------------------%%%%%%%%%-------------------------- Johan Bergstrom EMAIL: s94jbe@csd.uu.se Flogstav. 25c http://www.csd.uu.se/~s94jbe/ 752 73 Uppsala SWEDEN 018-460093 ---------------------------%%%%%%%%%-------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 11:48:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22355; Thu, 4 Jan 96 11:48:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26573; Thu, 4 Jan 96 11:33:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26567; Thu, 4 Jan 96 11:33:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXvOb-00038CC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 11:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ray@longhair.plaza.nt.com (Ray Marshall) Subject: sent-mail folder list shows wrong address Date: 4 Jan 1996 15:16:38 GMT Message-Id: <4cgr0m$7hk@brtph500.bnr.ca> Status: O X-Status: Is there a workaround for this: When my sent-mail folder is displayed, I've noticed that some entries show the "To: " line's contents, and some show the "From: " line's contents. The difference between these message (with 100% correlation) is the very first line, the one labeled "From ". If the hostname in "From " matches the current hostname, then the contents of the "To: " line are shown. But, if the hostname in "From " is a different, then the contents of the "From: " line are displayed. Additionally, it does NOT say that it's using "From: ", it just shows my name. I'm using an access provider that has two or three different systems that I can log into, all sharing my home directory. When I dial in, I get whichever machine is the least busy at the moment. So, when I send mail, the "From: " & "From " lines will indicate whatever machine I was on at the time. I have a similar configuration at work. But, I use the same workstation MOST of the time, so I rarely see this problem there. / Ray -----------------------------------+--------------------------------- Raymond E. Marshall | My opinions are not necessarily NorTel, Customer Service | endorsed by my employer, etc. RTP NC, USA 919-992-4731 Alternate access: raym@vnet.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 12:12:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23427; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:12:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27480; Thu, 4 Jan 96 11:59:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from venus.open.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27450; Thu, 4 Jan 96 11:58:57 -0800 Message-Id: <9601041958.AA27450@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: from acsvax.open.ac.uk by venus.open.ac.uk with Mail-11 (PP) id <19400-0@venus.open.ac.uk>; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:58:44 +0000 Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:58:44 +0000 From: Ben Clewett To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Vms-To: MAIL1::"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" Cc: B.S.Clewett@open.ac.uk X-Vms-Cc: BS_CLEWETT Subject: Forwarded MIME messages. Status: O X-Status: I cannot use the MIME part of PINE when I am forwarding messages to my UNIX system from my VAX account. This might sound like a strange thing to need to do, but by system here includes an interesting fire-wall which posts all incoming mail to my VAX account, where I can instruct the VAX mail server to forward my mail to any internal system, being my UNIX account running PINE. Therefore all incoming mail has an internal VAX added forwading header instead of the origional Internet header. This I belive is the reason that the Pine I am using does not touch MIME encrypted data! This is becoming difficult as I have several friends, all of whome want to send me binary data, and although I can send them MIME data all day long, can never see what they send back to me. I have here the chance to dump my Unix account and use Microsoft Mail, which under unusual conditions of only getting VAX forwarded mail, does still see the MIME data and extract it. This is something I don't even want to consider! If anybody out there can help me, I will be very happy! Please reply to my EMail address using only VAX understandable data. Ben Clewett. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 12:21:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23821; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:21:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26177; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:08:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26171; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:08:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXvwB-00038CC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Modiri Subject: AIX Pine 3.91 newsgroup article mailing Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 10:47:59 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It seems like as you are reading usenet articles in pine, there is no way to e-mail the article(s) other than exporting it and then e-mailing the file. Or maybe I just missed the command. Anyone know? Thanks. <--------------------------<<<-- Tony Modiri -->>>------------------------> < E-Mail: Modiri@csu.net Bus: (310)985-9606 > < Home Page: www.csu.net/modiri Fax: (310)985-9400 > <-------------------------------------------------------------------------> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 12:53:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25008; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:53:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28804; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:43:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28798; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:43:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXwUD-00038IC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 12:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flavell@vxcern.cern.ch (Alan J. Flavell) Subject: Line length, quoted printable, usenet posting Message-Id: Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 19:21:36 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'm finding that if I use ctrl/J to tidy up my untidy input, it's inclined to trigger PINE into quoted-printable mode: I assume that this is happening because I've exceeded the max line length that PINE permits in a non-encoded plain mail. When the result is intended as a usenet posting, this gets complaints from other usenauts about the =20 and =3D and stuff. Many usenet readers don't support MIME and display the stuff raw to the readers. Can I do anything, in terms of 1/ reducing the max line length produced by ctrl/J, or 2/ discouraging PINE from going into quoted-printable mode in this situation, or 3/ at least giving some kind of indication that I have provoked it (as could also happen, for example, if I typed a pound-sterling character in). Preferably via a configuration parameter (but I looked and didn't see one) rather than having to rebuild the software. best regards From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 13:12:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26367; Thu, 4 Jan 96 13:12:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27708; Thu, 4 Jan 96 13:02:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from offsv1.cis.McMaster.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27702; Thu, 4 Jan 96 13:02:11 -0800 Received: (from cseeley@localhost) by offsv1.CIS.McMaster.CA (8.7.1/8.7.1) id QAA07367; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:02:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:02:01 -0500 (EST) From: Carolynn Seeley To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: TAB disrupting INBOX Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I hope someone has encountered my current problem before and can give me some insight and help. I installed PINE 3.91 on our Sun OS 5.4 a week before Christmas. Since that time one of our Managers - Al is not receiving some of his mail in PINE. In desparation we viewed his INBOX in vi and found a on a line by itself at the end of a message that he had looked at and then some email that had been hidden. When we deleted the line and then went into PINE - 17 New messages appeared. Does anyone have any idea where the is being generated from? Thanks, Carolynn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carolynn Seeley email: seeley@mcmaster.ca Consultant, Office Systems Support cseeley@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca PINE Administrator Computing and Information Services McMaster University, ABB-132 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 13:29:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27033; Thu, 4 Jan 96 13:29:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28423; Thu, 4 Jan 96 13:16:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from offsv1.cis.McMaster.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28413; Thu, 4 Jan 96 13:16:25 -0800 Received: (from cseeley@localhost) by offsv1.CIS.McMaster.CA (8.7.1/8.7.1) id QAA07542; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:16:22 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:16:22 -0500 (EST) From: Carolynn Seeley To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: system freezing - SUN OS 5.4 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi! It is now Three weeks after upgrading from PINE 3.89 to version 3.91 and our total system has frozen solid with little/no warning . Our University was closed over the holiday period so there was not a heavy load on the system up to Tuesday this week. Since then we've averaged 370 users and the system has frozen late each afternoon forcing us to reboot. We couldn't even get an interrupt at the system console. I have been monitoring the system and watching for any dangling pine processes that may be eating CPU but as the load is low, this doesn't seem to be the cause of our hung system. Does anyone have any ideas or insights ? I appreciate your views. Thanks. Carolynn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carolynn Seeley email: seeley@mcmaster.ca Consultant, Office Systems Support cseeley@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca PINE Administrator Computing and Information Services McMaster University, ABB-132 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 13:57:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28682; Thu, 4 Jan 96 13:57:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29640; Thu, 4 Jan 96 13:53:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29634; Thu, 4 Jan 96 13:53:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tXxXG-00038CC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 13:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christian Labadie Subject: [Q] Pine for Windows 95 ? Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 21:28:24 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Will there be a version of pine for Windows 95 ? Christian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 14:58:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01740; Thu, 4 Jan 96 14:58:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01534; Thu, 4 Jan 96 14:53:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ICARUS.CC.UIC.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01528; Thu, 4 Jan 96 14:53:21 -0800 Received: (from pankaj@localhost) by icarus.cc.uic.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) id QAA10970; Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:53:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 16:53:43 -0600 (CST) From: Pankaj Saxena Reply-To: pankaj@uic.edu To: Pine Mailing List Subject: Folder Locks Message-Id: Pgp-Key: finger pankaj@uic.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This question has been brought up earlier, but the answer didn't quite solve the problem I was having. I use Pine with Procmail to pre-process my mail. Everything seems to be working fine, but I was concerned by all the warnings in the Pine FAQ and procmail packages about implementing some kind of folder locking scheme to make sure the folders are not corrupted and mail is not lost. I read the "Folder-Lock" section in the Pine FAQ and also the documents with procmail. There's a lot of information there - too much, in fact. I haven't been able to figure out what kind of folder-lock is required, and how to implement it. Could someone who's using Pine with Procmail please tell me (in simple terms) what kind of folder-lock scheme they're using, how they set it up, and whether they've had any problems using it. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pankaj Saxena pankaj@uic.edu University of Illinois at Chicago pankaj@tigger.cc.uic.edu Chicago, IL, USA pankaj@icarus.cc.uic.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 17:34:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08611; Thu, 4 Jan 96 17:34:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07447; Thu, 4 Jan 96 17:29:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07441; Thu, 4 Jan 96 17:29:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tY0vh-00038CC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 17:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: AIX Pine 3.91 newsgroup article mailing Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 20:15:49 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Tony Modiri wrote: > It seems like as you are reading usenet articles in pine, there is no way > to e-mail the article(s) other than exporting it and then e-mailing the file. > Or maybe I just missed the command. Anyone know? Thanks. I sounds as if you just want to forward the message with the 'f' command. A header will come up for you to fill in the email address. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 18:42:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10605; Thu, 4 Jan 96 18:42:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07062; Thu, 4 Jan 96 18:39:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07056; Thu, 4 Jan 96 18:39:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tY21c-00038CC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 18:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stanley@skyking.oce.orst.edu (John Stanley) Subject: Re: Message-Id header Date: 4 Jan 1996 23:44:52 GMT Message-Id: <820791117.AA12345@oce.orst.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Norberto H. Altalef wrote: >Let me do an aclaration on this subject. >In order to simplify the administration, I have configure "sendmail" to >hide the hostname in the mail address, so that an address of the form >"name@host.domain" becomes "name@domain". >But, the hostname still appears in the last part of the Message-ID header. So? Why is this a problem? >I didn't find any way configuring sendmail or pine, to change it, to a form >coherent with the mail address. How would you guarantee unique message id's if you allow each host to create their own out of the domain space? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 19:40:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11891; Thu, 4 Jan 96 19:40:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09447; Thu, 4 Jan 96 19:34:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09441; Thu, 4 Jan 96 19:34:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tY2tN-00038CC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 19:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@knobel.gun.de (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: Line length, quoted printable, usenet posting Date: 4 Jan 1996 20:40:24 GMT Message-Id: <4chdvo$oi@knobel.gun.de> References: In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: In article , flavell@vxcern.cern.ch (Alan J. Flavell) writes: > >I'm finding that if I use ctrl/J to tidy up my untidy input, it's >inclined to trigger PINE into quoted-printable mode: I assume that >this is happening because I've exceeded the max line length that >PINE permits in a non-encoded plain mail. > >When the result is intended as a usenet posting, this gets >complaints from other usenauts about the =20 and =3D and stuff. >Many usenet readers don't support MIME and display the stuff raw >to the readers. > >Can I do anything, in terms of 1/ reducing the max line length >produced by ctrl/J, or 2/ discouraging PINE from going into >quoted-printable mode in this situation, or 3/ at least giving >some kind of indication that I have provoked it (as could also >happen, for example, if I typed a pound-sterling character in). > >Preferably via a configuration parameter (but I looked and >didn't see one) rather than having to rebuild the software. I asked that, too, the answer was, that quoted printable is an internet standard. The authors wonder about the fact, that so many people want to have a switch to turn it off. I think they'd prefer, that other mail packages should start to support the MIME capabilities and quoted printable as well. If I remember right they think about it, to include such a switch into the next pine release. Another thing I'd like to see is, to have a configuration parameter, that allows you to encode binaries with uuencode. When I send binary data from home to my sun, I have problems to get it unpacked. I'd have to compile pine or another package, to get it decoded. I hope pine will get such feature, too. -- andreas@knobel.gun.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - aklemm@wup.de - \/ ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/Printing/aps-491.tgz apsfilter - magic print filter 4lpd >>> knobel is powered by FreeBSD <<< From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 4 21:40:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14343; Thu, 4 Jan 96 21:40:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09439; Thu, 4 Jan 96 21:34:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09433; Thu, 4 Jan 96 21:34:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tY4jT-00038CC; Thu, 4 Jan 96 21:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine (imapd?) hangs changing message status Date: Thu, 4 Jan 1996 17:48:52 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4cg0tf$tt8@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4cg0tf$tt8@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 4 Jan 1996, Trey Harris wrote: > If I cd to my ~/mail directory on the IMAP server machine and attempt to > do anything to read the files in that directory (ls, cat, vi, whatever) > the command hangs until Pine finishes hanging. The moment Pine finishes > hanging, the ls, cat, tail, or whatever abrubtly resumes. This sounds like an important clue. If Unix utilities get stuck too, it suggests that the hanging is happening in the system. My guess is that fsync() causes some kind of directory lockup. Pine does an fsync() on the mail file at certain critical points to ensure that the disk copy is consistant. One of those critical points is "all requested flag updates complete". Since you are running AIX 4, I suggest nagging IBM to fix their operating system. Since we're starting to deploy AIX 4 on our RS/6000s, I suspect that we'll start encountering this problem too. It does't happen in AIX 3. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 02:26:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20715; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:26:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13071; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:19:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13055; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:19:20 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA01375 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 11:11:49 +0100 Received: from ao5.mow.sni.de (itspc5.mow.sni.de [149.202.148.207]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA15119; Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:18:21 +0300 (OET) Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 13:18:47 +0300 (EET) From: Andrej Borsenkow Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: pankaj@uic.edu Cc: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Folder Locks X-Sender: bor@[itsmx1] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 4 Jan 1996, Pankaj Saxena wrote: > > Could someone who's using Pine with Procmail please tell me (in simple > terms) what kind of folder-lock scheme they're using, how they set it up, > and whether they've had any problems using it. > Hi! i am using Pine with procmail for some time and have no troubles (as yet :-) I haven't done any special configuration. Basically, get and compile procmail - I have done it off the shelf without ANY changes; get and compile Pine - see above. Then set up .procmailrc to your taste. I am using curently Procmail 3.11pre4 and Pine for Windows 3.91 with IMAP server from Pine 3.91 also. With procmail 3.10 no problem also. The only point is, don't forget to indicate folder locking in .procmailrc, that is, put second colon after the recipe flags, e.g. :0: * ... It makes procmail to lock folder while delivering. As far as I understand, both procmail and Pine use dot-locking. They create temporary file with .lock suffix while holding folder open. hope it helps greetings ---------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de SNI ITS, Moscow Phone: +7 (095) 252 13 88 ---------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 02:29:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20764; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:29:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15060; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:20:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15054; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:20:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tY9BF-00038CC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jurist@netaxs.com (Jurist Inc.) Subject: Re: BCC problem Date: 5 Jan 1996 05:45:23 GMT Message-Id: <4cidtj$8c9@netaxs.com> References: Status: O X-Status: I don't think it would be sendmail at our site, because we use MMDF. Anyways, the regular mail command works fine. So does SCOMail. It is just pine that includes the BCC: header on the To: mail receipents message. : > : > >Has anyone noticed that if you BCC someone, it tells the main receipient : > >of the message that you have done so? This doesn't sound like correct : > >behavior. : > >email trevor@jurist.com : : If memory serves me correctly I don't think it is a pine issue : but is sendmailism. If you construct an email message with only a bcc : the receipients will get a message with an "Apparently-To:" header that : "reveals" all the receipients. Not all versions of sendmail cause this : behaviour....if memory serves me correctly. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 02:56:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21187; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:56:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13368; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:50:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13362; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:50:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tY9ea-00038CC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Line length, quoted printable, usenet posting In-Reply-To: <4chdvo$oi@knobel.gun.de> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <4chdvo$oi@knobel.gun.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:35:52 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 4 Jan 1996, Andreas Klemm wrote: > In article , > flavell@vxcern.cern.ch (Alan J. Flavell) writes: > > > >I'm finding that if I use ctrl/J to tidy up my untidy input, it's > >inclined to trigger PINE into quoted-printable mode: I assume that > >this is happening because I've exceeded the max line length that > >PINE permits in a non-encoded plain mail. > > > >When the result is intended as a usenet posting, this gets > >complaints from other usenauts about the =20 and =3D and stuff. > >Many usenet readers don't support MIME and display the stuff raw > >to the readers. > > > >Can I do anything, in terms of 1/ reducing the max line length > >produced by ctrl/J, ... > > I asked that, too, the answer was, that quoted printable is > an internet standard. ... It is, but it's not mandatory even for email yet, and certainly support for it is not widespread on usenet. I don't believe it is polite to use MIME encoding on usenet. PINE is a nice email client but I'm not exactly impressed by it as a usenet client; it's just that I'm sometimes in a position where it's the only usenet client that's easily accessible to me as a user - I just wish that it was better behaved on usenet in this (and some other) respects. Could I just say again that I'd be content if I had a way to cut down the line length somewhat that ctrl/J produces. Is this a PICO issue? I guess it is. Does PICO have any handles on this, like a configuration file (rather than needing to rebuild from source)? best regards From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 03:02:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21308; Fri, 5 Jan 96 03:02:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15403; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:55:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15397; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:55:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tY9mP-00038CC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 02:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Forwarded MIME messages. In-Reply-To: <9601041958.AA27450@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <9601041958.AA27450@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 10:44:58 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 4 Jan 1996, Ben Clewett wrote: > I cannot use the MIME part of PINE when I am forwarding messages to my UNIX > system from my VAX account. You can consider installing Yehavi Bourvine's port of PINE to VAX/VMS onto the VAX account. This understands the MIME headers in spite of the extra VAX headers. You should be able to do this even as a normal user, without system privileges on the VAX system. look at my notes http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html for pointers to the software, etc. Hope this helps. > This might sound like a strange thing to need to do, but by system here > includes an interesting fire-wall which posts all incoming mail to my VAX > account, where I can instruct the VAX mail server to forward my mail to > any internal system, being my UNIX account running PINE. You would have to invoke PINE manually on the VAX system. The automatic forwarding could not do this AFAIK. > Therefore all incoming mail has an internal VAX added forwading header instead > of the origional Internet header. This I belive is the reason that the Pine > I am using does not touch MIME encrypted data! I know this well! However, an alternative would be to install one of the MIME utilities such as Mpack on your unix system, and filter the incoming mail items by hand, if you can't or won't use Yehavi's package. Thanks to your long lines, I suspect that this posting is going to get MIME-encoded by PINE anyway. (See my other thread on this topic) cheers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 10:03:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04704; Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:03:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20674; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:51:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20668; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:51:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYGDz-00038CC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stern@opus.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca (Daniel Stern) Subject: saving e-mail on my disk Date: 5 Jan 1996 16:33:35 GMT Message-Id: <4cjjsv$eto@milo.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca> Status: O X-Status: Good morning. Does anyone know how I can save my e-mail on a floppy disk? I use pine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 10:04:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04768; Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:04:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20720; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:52:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20710; Fri, 5 Jan 96 09:52:54 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA09493 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:52:49 +0100 Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:48:16 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: "Samudra E. Haque" Cc: The Pine Discussion List Subject: Re: Pine for SCO Unix? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Samudra E. Haque wrote: > I saw one of your posts in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine, you were > discussing pico for SCO UNIX, and you mentioned "If PINE is installed on > your system....", the system in question being referred to, was most > probably SCO Unix. > > I am definitely curious!!!!! I have a SCO Unix 3.2v4.2 operating system > that is desparately short of a good mail interface to its UUCP link to > the internet. On my LINUX machine I have pine, and I am truly impressed. > I recently was able to (with much expense) download via modem the entire > PINE 3.91 distribution, but haven't had much success in getting pine to > compile on SCO Unix. Is this now possible ? Could you please point out > how it might be possible ? Ideally I would like to acquire/beg/borrow > Pine with an interface (like pico editor) and a interface to SCO UUCP if > possible. Thank you for your message. It is very easy to build Pine, Pico and Imap on SCO Unix: after unpacking the distribution, you only have to give "build sco" to make all of them. The binaries will be build in the directory "bin" under the distribution and can be installed by a simple copy or "make install". If you have no TCP/IP and like to use Pine only as MUA (Mail User Agent) over UUCP, then do "ln -s /dev/null /dev/socksys" to fool Pine :-) Of course UUCP and MMDF must be configured, if you need help, as for it. --- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ GOOD HEALTH, HAPPINESS, SAFETY AND PROSPERITY FOR 1996 ! +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 10:30:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06299; Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:30:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23705; Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:21:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23699; Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:21:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYGhp-00038CC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 10:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Problems compiling on Solaris 2.4 Sparc 20 Date: 5 Jan 96 17:08:43 GMT Message-Id: References: <4cgrc5$arb@linet02.li.net> Status: O X-Status: bill@newshost.li.net (Bill Groppe) writes: >Any help would be greatly appreciated!! >After much fiddling around I got pine 3.91 to compile on my Sparc 20 running >solaris 2.4. However, pine with display the headers from received messages, >but not show the message text. Also if I try to send mail pine dumps core. It definitely does compile. Run ldd on your binary and post the output. >The code seems to call ioctl with flags no longer support in 2.4. I've traced >the one of the problems to the outbound filter on the message text. It >references &c and dies immediatly. >Thanks for you help! >Bill@li.net -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 12:25:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12331; Fri, 5 Jan 96 12:25:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24566; Fri, 5 Jan 96 12:01:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24560; Fri, 5 Jan 96 12:01:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYIG9-00038CC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 11:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tell@cs.unc.edu (Stephen Tell) Subject: Re: pine and mime Date: 5 Jan 1996 10:40:55 -0500 Message-Id: <4cjgq7$2kt@rukbat.cs.unc.edu> References: <4c7gbu$eqc@nyx.cs.du.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <4c7gbu$eqc@nyx.cs.du.edu>, seth ness wrote: > >hi, > >i'm having some bad interactions with pine, listproc and mime. >i have some long documents that have some hi-ascii characters scattered >through them. because of this pine mime-encodes them. people recieving >them on non-mime email programs than get =20 and =098 for newlines and I seem to have a similar problem - pine insists on BASE64 encoding _any_ attached files, which folks non-mime mailers really have trouble with. Even files that are just plain US-ASCII. Is this a bug in 3.90 fixed later? Any suggestions besides waiting a few more years for mime to spread and mature some more? >ness@aecom.yu.edu -- Steve Tell tell@cs.unc.edu W: +1 919 962 1845 Research Associate, Computer Science Department, UNC@Chapel Hill. Who needs 3-D television when you've got live theatre? -me From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 12:53:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13574; Fri, 5 Jan 96 12:53:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27862; Fri, 5 Jan 96 12:41:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27856; Fri, 5 Jan 96 12:41:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYIuD-00038CC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 12:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Tobkin Subject: Re: Message-Id header Date: 5 Jan 1996 10:01:01 -0700 Message-Id: <4cjlgd$l0l@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: <4c4k02$gf0@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Status: O X-Status: Ed Greshko wrote: : On 31 Dec 1995, Jeff Mercer wrote: : > nalt@ub.edu.ar ("Norberto H. Altalef") wrote: : > >I would like to know if it's possible modify the contents of the : > >Message-ID header. : > : > Sure. : > : > >I'm interested in hide the host name from it. : > >I'm using pine 3.91 in HP-UX and Linux machines. : > : > What, tell you how to forge Message-ID headers so you can be a : > dickweed and spam Usenet? Hah! Fuck off. : Some people feel that to reveal their hostname can result in : security problems. Their intentions are not as you cite. In any case : your use of profane language is inappropriate. : Regards, : Ed I feel urged to respond to this thread. Bob Dole, one of those breach of contractors under that nuetered person. Has had this profanity problem with the net. It is my conclusion that if the net would have done away with anonymity from the get go we wouldn't have the image problems that the net has today. Sure Mr. Mercur used profanity but he put his real name to it. As others would have to if they couldn't be anonymous. I feel the net would be a better place if people couldn't hide. Have you read the alt.politics pub. Its depressing as hell to think that people can be that neanderthal. But its like that all over. On a technical note. Why in thunder can't that curser catch up with my typing? I know I have a 2400 baud modem, but sheesh. -- |----------------------------------------------------| \ ___________________________, / \ //~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~|~~~~~~\\ | / \ _|_/-------------/_|______|_______\\_|________,_ / \ \ _@_______________|____-_|-______|_____________) / \ <____// \|______|______|_______|_// \)_____> / \ \___/ topper@primenet.com \___/ / |----------------------------------------------------| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 14:10:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18608; Fri, 5 Jan 96 14:10:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27989; Fri, 5 Jan 96 14:01:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27981; Fri, 5 Jan 96 14:01:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYKCD-00038CC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 14:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sinners@netcom.com (Steve Inners) Subject: Re: Pine for SCO Unix? Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 18:20:43 GMT Status: O X-Status: : On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Samudra E. Haque wrote: : > I saw one of your posts in the newsgroup comp.mail.pine, you were : > discussing pico for SCO UNIX, and you mentioned "If PINE is installed on : > your system....", the system in question being referred to, was most : > probably SCO Unix. : > : > I am definitely curious!!!!! I have a SCO Unix 3.2v4.2 operating system You can also try ftp.celestial.com for a SCO ready binary (if you don't have the c-compiler to do a build). -- -Steve sinners@netcom.com ################################################### I brew, therefore I am. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 16:40:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25420; Fri, 5 Jan 96 16:40:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02046; Fri, 5 Jan 96 16:32:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from news.pacifier.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02040; Fri, 5 Jan 96 16:32:57 -0800 Received: from bart by news.pacifier.com with uucp for cac.washington.edu!pine-info (Linux Smail3.1.29.1 #30) id m0tYMZG-0009C2C; Fri, 5 Jan 96 16:33 PST Received: from bart.wfsg.com by bart.wfsg.com id aa05881; 5 Jan 96 16:25 PST Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 16:25:19 -0800 (PST) From: Dave Hansen To: "Jurist Inc." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: BCC problem In-Reply-To: <4cidtj$8c9@netaxs.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I've seen this on our SCO system running MMDF. Typically when you don't include a To: address. -- Dave Hansen On 5 Jan 1996, Jurist Inc. wrote: > I don't think it would be sendmail at our site, because we use MMDF. > Anyways, the regular mail command works fine. So does SCOMail. It is > just pine that includes the BCC: header on the To: mail receipents message. > : > > : > >Has anyone noticed that if you BCC someone, it tells the main receipient > : > >of the message that you have done so? This doesn't sound like correct > : > >behavior. > : > >email trevor@jurist.com > : > : If memory serves me correctly I don't think it is a pine issue > : but is sendmailism. If you construct an email message with only a bcc > : the receipients will get a message with an "Apparently-To:" header that > : "reveals" all the receipients. Not all versions of sendmail cause this > : behaviour....if memory serves me correctly. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 19:39:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01014; Fri, 5 Jan 96 19:39:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08170; Fri, 5 Jan 96 19:32:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08164; Fri, 5 Jan 96 19:32:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYPM4-00038CC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 19:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pschoenb@composer.mayn.de (Patrick Schoenbach) Subject: Sending attached files Message-Id: Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 20:49:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi there, is it possible to use uuencode instead of base64-encoding for attached files? If so, how could I do this? Bye. -- ----------------------------------- E-Mail: pschoenb@composer.mayn.de ----------------------------------- PGP Public Key available From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 19:41:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01048; Fri, 5 Jan 96 19:41:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05687; Fri, 5 Jan 96 19:37:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05681; Fri, 5 Jan 96 19:37:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYPQU-00038CC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 19:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aaa227@agora.ulaval.ca (SUZANNE FORTIN) Subject: help-- error message Date: 6 Jan 1996 01:52:00 GMT Message-Id: <4ckkk0$ep5@athena.ulaval.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hi I'm curious. I was in my mail reader, reading the newsgroups to which I subscribe. I tried posting, but an error message came up: "error-- no space left on device writing article". The message did not post. What does that mean? How can I fix the problem? I can post with my USENET reader, except it's just a little bit more of a pain to go to USENET. Please e-mail me. Thank you very kindly. _________________________________________________________________________ Suzanne Fortin | undergraduate student | Editor of *Minerva* a diminutive e-mail zine history | of poetry and opinion. The Winter 1996 issue Laval University | is out. E-mail me for a free copy. Submission Ste-Foy, PQ, Canada | guidelines included. aaa227@agora.ulaval.ca | __________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 5 23:25:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04727; Fri, 5 Jan 96 23:25:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11110; Fri, 5 Jan 96 23:22:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11104; Fri, 5 Jan 96 23:22:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYSuE-00038CC; Fri, 5 Jan 96 23:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Derik Rawson Subject: Pine style viewer for DOS text files Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 17:32:12 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Looking for DOS software to view plain text files after downloaded from Unix server to my HP100LX Hewlett-Parkard Palm Top, so they look just like Pine Files on Unix server. ie: Shows new and old messages. My not exist ....any ideas? Derik Rawson rri@neosoft.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 01:20:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06686; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:20:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09669; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:12:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09663; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:12:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYUcG-00038CC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: u9107543@muss.cis.McMaster.CA (P.H. Van broekhoven) Subject: random .signature files Date: 6 Jan 1996 00:17:21 -0500 Message-Id: <4cl0l1$rgr@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible (and if so how) to have PINE generate a random .signature? IE, everytime I compose a message, it pulls out a random quote (or other bit of text) from a list. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 01:26:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06759; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:26:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12429; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:17:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12423; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:17:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYUk2-00038CC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfreeman@psycfrnd.interaccess.com (Richard E. Freeman) Subject: Add Approved: to Header? Date: 6 Jan 1996 04:30:27 GMT Message-Id: <4cktt3$ui@nntp.interaccess.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to add an Approved: line to the header when using pine to run a moderated newsgroup? Is there any way to get it to default with such a line? Thanks, -- Rich Freeman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 01:40:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07304; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:40:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09938; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:32:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09932; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:32:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYUya-00038CC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 01:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gordon or Connie Marigold Subject: Re: help-- error message Date: Fri, 5 Jan 1996 20:40:07 -0600 Message-Id: References: <4ckkk0$ep5@athena.ulaval.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ckkk0$ep5@athena.ulaval.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hello, The same thing happened to me a couple of weeks ago. I assumed it was just a problem with the local "whatever" is handling mail, and I think I must have been right as it was fine again when I tried half an hour later. If anyone really knows, please post to the group. TIA Connie On 6 Jan 1996, SUZANNE FORTIN wrote: > Hi > > I'm curious. I was in my mail reader, reading the newsgroups to which I > subscribe. I tried posting, but an error message came up: "error-- no > space left on device writing article". The message did not post. > > What does that mean? How can I fix the problem? > > I can post with my USENET reader, except it's just a little bit more of a > pain to go to USENET. > > > Please e-mail me. > > Thank you very kindly. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Suzanne Fortin | > undergraduate student | Editor of *Minerva* a diminutive e-mail zine > history | of poetry and opinion. The Winter 1996 issue > Laval University | is out. E-mail me for a free copy. Submission > Ste-Foy, PQ, Canada | guidelines included. > aaa227@agora.ulaval.ca | > __________________________________________________________________________ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 04:32:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10706; Sat, 6 Jan 96 04:32:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14646; Sat, 6 Jan 96 04:23:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14640; Sat, 6 Jan 96 04:23:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYXdI-00038HC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 04:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lai@ds9.ph.utexas.edu (Chi-hsuan Lai) Subject: convert pine addressbook to elm Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 00:09:34 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi: I have been using pine for a long time and accumulated a big list of addressbook in pine. I just wondering if there are some scripts which can convert pine addressbook to elm alias files. Thanks Lai -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Chi-hsuan Lai, Dept of Physics * e-mail: lai@utpapa.ph.utexas.edu | | University of Texas at Austin * http://www.ph.utexas.edu/~lai/home.html| | Visit UT TSA WWW page: http://www.utexas.edu/students/tsa/ | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 05:52:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11841; Sat, 6 Jan 96 05:52:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12896; Sat, 6 Jan 96 05:48:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12890; Sat, 6 Jan 96 05:48:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYYxh-00038CC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 05:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: werner@buffnet.net (Craig Werner) Subject: Re: saving e-mail on my disk Date: 6 Jan 1996 11:43:18 GMT Message-Id: <4cln8n$efv@buffnet2.buffnet.net> References: <4cjjsv$eto@milo.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca> Status: O X-Status: Daniel Stern (stern@opus.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca) wrote: > Good morning. Does anyone know how I can save my e-mail on a floppy disk? Daniel, one way to do what you wish is to type "e" after you have read the message you wish to save. This option allows the message to be exported to a plain textfile on your system. You must give it a filename. After you have exited pine, download the file to your disk, and then delete it from the system on which you saved it before downloading it. (Check before deleting to make sure the message has been saved to your disk.) Craig Werner From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 11:01:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15798; Sat, 6 Jan 96 11:01:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18833; Sat, 6 Jan 96 10:53:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18827; Sat, 6 Jan 96 10:53:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYdjr-00038CC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 10:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pauljr@nceet.snre.umich.edu (Paul Nowak) Subject: Email Message Databases Date: 4 Jan 1996 16:01:42 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I've been using pine VIA NCSA Telnet on a Mac for a couple years now and I have collected over 30 MB in old messages and sent messages. Within these messages is information that is important to me but, sifting through it all is a real pain. Has naybody created a database tool for organizing old messages generated in pine? Thanks in advance for any info, Paul Nowak From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 16:06:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20519; Sat, 6 Jan 96 16:06:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19901; Sat, 6 Jan 96 15:59:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19895; Sat, 6 Jan 96 15:59:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYiSc-00038CC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 15:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: richh@teleport.com (Rich) Subject: Printing Problems Date: 6 Jan 1996 23:48:49 GMT Message-Id: <4cn1p1$6de@maureen.teleport.com> Status: O X-Status: I have 2 Print Questions about Pine. When I print, the program freezes after a short period of printing. At this point I have to reboot and log back in. I think it has something to do with memory (I am thinking printer memory). Any ideas on how to correct this problem? Also I would like to print without any headers. When someone sends me a document, it sure would be nice just to print it from there as a finished document rather to have to retype it, or download it to a word processor. Ideas? Thanks Rich ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Credit Management Information & Support = http://www.teleport.com/~richh/ Newsgroup = misc.business.credit e-mail = richh@creditworthy.com - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 17:20:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21921; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:20:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20939; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:14:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20933; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:14:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYjea-00038HC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: help with pine Date: 6 Jan 1996 15:01:51 -0800 Message-Id: <4cmv0v$f1v@shellx.best.com> References: <4cgh2m$gqj@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: O X-Status: lslawe@mail1.sas.upenn.edu (Lauren T. Slawe) writes: >Hi! Iwas wondering if there was somewhere I could pick up a manual entry >for pine. I have a link to the Pine man pages and other Pine info on: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/internet/pine/ Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 17:21:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21954; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:21:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23538; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:14:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23532; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:14:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYjea-00038CC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: saving e-mail on my disk Date: 6 Jan 1996 15:06:04 -0800 Message-Id: <4cmv8s$gb6@shellx.best.com> References: <4cjjsv$eto@milo.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca> <4cln8n$efv@buffnet2.buffnet.net> Status: O X-Status: werner@buffnet.net (Craig Werner) writes: >Daniel Stern (stern@opus.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca) wrote: >> Good morning. Does anyone know how I can save my e-mail on a floppy disk? > >Daniel, one way to do what you wish is to type "e" after you have read >the message you wish to save. This option allows the message to be >exported to a plain textfile on your system. You must give it a >filename. After you have exited pine, download the file to your disk, >and then delete it from the system on which you saved it before >downloading it. (Check before deleting to make sure the message has been >saved to your disk.) Or if you are using PC Pine for Windows just save (S) or export (E) to c:\dirname\filename.txt Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 17:44:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22417; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:44:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23891; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:39:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23885; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:39:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYk4l-00038CC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 17:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jimb@micro.internexus.net (Nexus Tech Support) Subject: Mass Mailings and BCC Mass Date: 7 Jan 1996 00:33:55 GMT Message-Id: <4cn4dj$hln@micro.internexus.net> Status: O X-Status: I was wondering how to automattically compile a Mass Mailing list from the passwd file in pine.. Ideally removing bin, etc. Also, how can you send a mass mail (or any mailing list) and have it not list all the other people the message was sent to? Jim Brinkerhoff jimb@internexus.net (Preffered response method) Internet Nexus Technical Support From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 20:14:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24148; Sat, 6 Jan 96 20:14:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22914; Sat, 6 Jan 96 20:09:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22908; Sat, 6 Jan 96 20:09:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYmQY-00038CC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 20:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Looke <100231.1433@compuserve.com> Subject: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Message-Id: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 14:58:49 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Can anyone advise me on the best Mail Server for Windows NT? There are quite a few mail servers available, including: EMWAC, IMail, LISTSERV, Mi'Mail, NTMAIL, post.office, sendmail, SLmailNT, and StarTech Internet Components--and probably others. We have a 10-user LAN (Netware 3.11) with an Internet Server (Windows NT 3.51, Pentium box) running Website, and I want to set up Internet mail. My service provider does not provide this facility. Our workstations are all running Win95. Any comments regarding the pros and cons of particular mail servers would be welcome. Thanks, David Looke, MicroWay Pty Ltd. email: 100231.1433@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 22:33:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26052; Sat, 6 Jan 96 22:33:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27192; Sat, 6 Jan 96 22:29:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27185; Sat, 6 Jan 96 22:29:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYoWT-00038HC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 22:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Derik Rawson Subject: Need DOS database tool for old Pine files on disks Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 23:34:48 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am looking for same thing on DOS 5.0 for my HP100LX Palmtop, so I can organize and read E-Mail saved on disk. Subject: Email Message Databases Date: 4 Jan 1996 16:01:42 GMT Organization: University of Michigan Lines: 10 I've been using pine VIA NCSA Telnet on a Mac for a couple years now and I have collected over 30 MB in old messages and sent messages. Within these messages is information that is important to me but, sifting through it all is a real pain. Has naybody created a database tool for organizing old messages generated in pine? Thanks in advance for any info, Paul Nowak From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 22:42:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26330; Sat, 6 Jan 96 22:42:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24790; Sat, 6 Jan 96 22:39:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24784; Sat, 6 Jan 96 22:39:18 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA16055; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 01:42:23 +0500 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 01:42:22 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: How to make the cursor skip to the next word? In-Reply-To: <4c9cb7$rjk@informer1.cis.McMaster.CA> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 724 Status: O X-Status: On 1 Jan 1996, Mahmut Parlar wrote: > In most DOS/Windows wordprocessors, pressing the > `Ctrl + Right Arrow' keys would make the cursor jump to the next word. The > PINE v3.91 Editor we have here doesn't understand this key combination > (I guess because it is a UNIX application). > Is there a similar key combination in PINE that would do the same > thing? Thanks for your help. Ctrl-SPACE or Ctrl-@ will do it. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 22:54:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26533; Sat, 6 Jan 96 22:54:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24994; Sat, 6 Jan 96 22:52:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.bcpl.lib.md.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24988; Sat, 6 Jan 96 22:52:51 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA16488; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 01:55:56 +0500 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 01:55:55 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old X-Sender: fold@mail To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Interrupting wait for news server In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1002 Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 1 Jan 1996, Tom Phoenix wrote: > Sometimes the news server on my site is slow to respond, so Pine seems to > hang. Is there any way to interrupt Pine, so I can get back to more > interesting things? > > I can use 'kill' to send a signal to Pine, but I don't want to kill it; I > just want to wake it up! ;-) Our users who read newsgroups with Pine report a similar problem, especially when they try to go to their folder lists. If communication with our news server (which is remote) hits a snag, Pine sits there forever with a "Building folder list" message. The only way out is Ctrl-C, or wait for the news server to come back to life. Can we have a more elegant solution in 3.92? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 23:47:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27270; Sat, 6 Jan 96 23:47:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25529; Sat, 6 Jan 96 23:45:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25523; Sat, 6 Jan 96 23:45:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYpjK-00038HC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 23:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egilk@sn.no (Egil Kvaleberg) Subject: Re: pine and mime Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 07:19:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <4c7gbu$eqc@nyx.cs.du.edu> Status: O X-Status: seth ness (sness@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote: > i'm having some bad interactions with pine, listproc and mime. > i have some long documents that have some hi-ascii characters scattered > through them. because of this pine mime-encodes them. people recieving > them on non-mime email programs than get =20 and =098 for newlines and > tabs etc. which makes a mess. plus listproc archives them with the =20 > and =09's which really sucks. I have a patch for Pine 3.91 that fixes this problem. It uses the Mime 8bit encoding when possible, which means no encoding and no mess! You will need to download and recompile the Pine source to install it. The patched version is still in accordance with RFC1340, RFC1428 and RFC1521. Please contact me by email if you are interested. In Norwegian we have the exact same problem, since we have three extra characters from the ISO-8859-1 character set. I found Pine such a good program I simply thought it was too bad to have it spoiled by the Mine Unreadables. Egil -- Email: egilk@oslonett.no Voice: +47 22523641 Fax: +47 22525899 Snail: Egil Kvaleberg, Husebybakken 14A, 0379 Oslo, Norway URL: http://www.oslonett.no/home/egilk/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 6 23:48:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27304; Sat, 6 Jan 96 23:48:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28147; Sat, 6 Jan 96 23:45:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28141; Sat, 6 Jan 96 23:45:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYpjK-00038KC; Sat, 6 Jan 96 23:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egilk@sn.no (Egil Kvaleberg) Subject: Re: Line length, quoted printable, usenet posting Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 07:40:19 GMT Message-Id: References: <4chdvo$oi@knobel.gun.de> Status: O X-Status: Alan J. Flavell (FLAVELL@vxcern.cern.ch) wrote: > On 4 Jan 1996, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > In article , > > flavell@vxcern.cern.ch (Alan J. Flavell) writes: > > >When the result is intended as a usenet posting, this gets > > >complaints from other usenauts about the =20 and =3D and stuff. > > >Many usenet readers don't support MIME and display the stuff raw > > >to the readers. I find the current situation where programs like Pine and Netscape switches to Mime Printables whenever they see one little 8-bit character very unfortunate. RFC1340 clearly indicates the possibility of sending straight 8bit. As long as this is announced in the header, I really think that this is a good thing: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > I don't believe it > is polite to use MIME encoding on usenet. If you by MIME encoding mean "Quoted Printable", I 100% agree. I even think its use for email should be limited too. That is why I have made a patch for Pine 3.91 to allow proper 8bit postings. A feature switch "allow-8bit-mime" has been introduced to enable this feature. The 8bit coding for text is used for situations where all these conditions are met: 1. The "allow-8bit-mime" feature is set. 2. One or more character has the upper bit set. 3. None of these characters are unprintable. 4. Less than 30% of the characters require 8bit. 5. The line length is below 500. 6. There are no NULs. Please email me at egilk@sn.no if you are interested. Egil -- Email: egilk@sn.no Voice: +47 22523641 Fax: +47 22525899 Snail: Egil Kvaleberg, Husebybakken 14A, 0379 Oslo, Norway URL: http://www.oslonett.no/home/egilk/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 04:45:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02826; Sun, 7 Jan 96 04:45:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29020; Sun, 7 Jan 96 04:40:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29014; Sun, 7 Jan 96 04:40:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYuOq-00038HC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 04:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "G. Harney" Subject: I have new mail (I dont) Date: Sat, 6 Jan 1996 15:46:57 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: whenever i send a message to anybody in pine and then exit, my shell (?) tells me ; You have new mail in /usr/mail/gharney when in fact the user that I just sent the mail to should be getting that message, not me. :) Does pine remove and then recreate the system mailbox from the copy it uses (and modifies) while you are reading mail, appending any new mail which may have come in? If so this may explain it, since then bash sees a completely new file, and could be excused for thinking that it was all new mail. Suggestions? Thanks, Giles gharney@clark.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 06:29:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04111; Sun, 7 Jan 96 06:29:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02777; Sun, 7 Jan 96 06:26:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02771; Sun, 7 Jan 96 06:26:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYvyz-00038KC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 06:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fansari@berlin.snafu.de Subject: Receiving mails Date: Sun, 07 Jan 96 14:59:12 PDT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 06:29:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04122; Sun, 7 Jan 96 06:29:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00154; Sun, 7 Jan 96 06:26:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00147; Sun, 7 Jan 96 06:26:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYvzA-00038MC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 06:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fansari@berlin.snafu.de Subject: Receiving mails Date: Sun, 07 Jan 96 15:01:02 PDT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am new under Linux and want to use pine to send and receive messages. But so far I am only able to send them. I am not connected to any LAN. I use TCP/IP with my modem and am connected to my internet provider via SLIP. How can I get the mails which arrived at my provider to my local machine? Perhaps somebody of you is able to help me. Thank you. Frank fansari@berlin.snafu.de From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 09:08:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06237; Sun, 7 Jan 96 09:08:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04387; Sun, 7 Jan 96 09:01:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04381; Sun, 7 Jan 96 09:01:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYyRr-00038CC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 08:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Yossi Klein Subject: 3.92 Wish List Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 15:26:10 +0200 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I know that 3.92 is probably close to being "set in stone". I wonder if these items have been fixed or enhanced. 1. 'pine' takes messages forwarded from Sun's 'mailtool' and splits it up into 2 messages. (Is this a pine problem or a mailtool problem)? 2. When responding to a mail message, if you do a ^J to justify your message, it justifies the included text in the original message. 'To Spell', ^T, seems to be smart enough not to check spelling on the included text; why can't 'justify' be just as smart ? 3. When selecting news-groups using a pattern (^X) only one group can be selected for subscription. Since ^X doest take some time, it would be nice to be able to select multiple groups that matched the pattern for subscription. Thanx Joe Klein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 09:11:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06286; Sun, 7 Jan 96 09:11:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01694; Sun, 7 Jan 96 08:58:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01688; Sun, 7 Jan 96 08:58:47 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id IAA22921 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 08:58:46 -0800 Received: by parr.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA156330; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 08:56:26 -0800 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 08:56:25 -0800 (PST) From: Andy McNiece To: pauljr@nceet.snre.umich.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Email Message Databases In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Try the program called glimpse. It builds indices from any database. _____________________________________________________________________________ Andy McNiece, Parr Lumber Co. andym@parr.com 5630 Five Oaks Drive Phone 503-614-2525 Hillsboro, Oregon USA 97124 Fax 503-629-8635 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 09:29:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06533; Sun, 7 Jan 96 09:29:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01981; Sun, 7 Jan 96 09:21:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01974; Sun, 7 Jan 96 09:21:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tYyl2-00038HC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 09:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egilk@sn.no (Egil Kvaleberg) Subject: Re: Receiving mails Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 15:33:14 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: fansari@berlin.snafu.de wrote: > I am not connected to any LAN. I use TCP/IP with my modem and > am connected to my internet provider via SLIP. How can I get > the mails which arrived at my provider to my local machine? It depends. But assuming the standard ISP situation, you'll probably have to use the POP-3 protocol to retrieve mail. This is accomplished by the popclient program, e.g: popclient -3 -v mail.my_isp.de -u my_username -p my_password \ -o /usr/spool/mail/my_localname egil -- Email: egilk@sn.no Voice: +47 2252 3641, 920 22780 Fax: +47 2252 5899 Snail: Egil Kvaleberg, Husebybakken 14A, 0379 Oslo, Norway URL: http://www.sn.no/~egilk/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 14:34:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11437; Sun, 7 Jan 96 14:34:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08370; Sun, 7 Jan 96 14:32:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08364; Sun, 7 Jan 96 14:32:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZ3bn-00038CC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 14:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joe Savage Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Date: Sun, 07 Jan 1996 15:16:47 -0600 Message-Id: <30F0383F.58C2@nttex.com> References: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: David Looke wrote: > > Can anyone advise me on the best Mail Server for Windows NT? > I am currently running an evaluation copy of post.office and it out performs all the others. It's easy to setup and administer and I would recommend it highly for a small to medium size lan. -joe- -- **** Joe Savage, Microsoft Certified Professional **** **** New Tech Computers **** **** Austin, Texas -- God's Country **** **** jsavage@nttex.com **** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 15:28:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12168; Sun, 7 Jan 96 15:28:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06510; Sun, 7 Jan 96 15:22:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06504; Sun, 7 Jan 96 15:22:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZ4Ma-00038CC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 15:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: langs@charm.psc.sc.edu (David Langs) Subject: Pine for the Macintosh? Date: 7 Jan 1996 20:10:31 GMT Message-Id: <4cp9bn$iot@redwood.cs.sc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi: We have both Unix machines and Macs in our lab, and I have just recently installed pine on our Unix machines, and so far I like it. I find the IMAP feature intriguing. It would be nice if people who have Macs in their offices could remotely access their mail folders on the Unix machines, but I have so far not been able to find a version of Pine for the Macintosh. Does such a thing exist, and if so where can I get it? If not, is there one in the works? This is probably a frequently asked question, but I am new to this group. Thanks. Dave Langs langs@scuch8.psc.sc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 17:13:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13630; Sun, 7 Jan 96 17:13:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10248; Sun, 7 Jan 96 17:07:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10242; Sun, 7 Jan 96 17:07:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZ5zX-00038HC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 17:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: master@micro.internexus.net (Laszlo Vecsey) Subject: Outgoing addressbook mail w/o CC's Date: 7 Jan 1996 23:44:27 GMT Message-Id: <4cplsr$9l9@micro.internexus.net> Status: O X-Status: How do I send a message to everyone on my mailing list without having a huge To: field listing everyone on the list? First off it's annoying to receive such a message because you have to scroll down so far to get to it, and secondly I'd rather not have everyone on the list know who else is on the list. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 17:29:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13878; Sun, 7 Jan 96 17:29:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10492; Sun, 7 Jan 96 17:25:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10486; Sun, 7 Jan 96 17:25:30 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with UUCP id RAA15618 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 17:25:29 -0800 Received: by parr.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA152342; Sun, 7 Jan 1996 16:39:30 -0800 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 16:39:30 -0800 (PST) From: Andy McNiece To: David Langs Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for the Macintosh? In-Reply-To: <4cp9bn$iot@redwood.cs.sc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am using Eudora (MAC Version) rather than Pine. It works very well. _____________________________________________________________________________ Andy McNiece, Parr Lumber Co. andym@parr.com 5630 Five Oaks Drive Phone 503-614-2525 Hillsboro, Oregon USA 97124 Fax 503-629-8635 On 7 Jan 1996, David Langs wrote: > Hi: > > We have both Unix machines and Macs in our lab, and I have just recently > installed pine on our Unix machines, and so far I like it. I find the IMAP > feature intriguing. It would be nice if people who have Macs in their > offices could remotely access their mail folders on the Unix machines, but > I have so far not been able to find a version of Pine for the Macintosh. Does > such a thing exist, and if so where can I get it? If not, is there one in > the works? > > This is probably a frequently asked question, but I am new to this group. > > Thanks. > > Dave Langs > langs@scuch8.psc.sc.edu > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 19:08:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15328; Sun, 7 Jan 96 19:08:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09018; Sun, 7 Jan 96 19:02:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09012; Sun, 7 Jan 96 19:02:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZ7n0-00038HC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 18:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lukvdh@tornado.be (Luk Van de Heyning) Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 01:49:19 GMT Message-Id: <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> References: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> <30F0383F.58C2@nttex.com> Status: O X-Status: Joe Savage wrote: >David Looke wrote: >> >> Can anyone advise me on the best Mail Server for Windows NT? >> >I am currently running an evaluation copy of post.office and it out performs all the >others. It's easy to setup and administer and I would recommend it highly for a small to >medium size lan. Perhaps you could be so kind to let us know where to find it? Any URL to it? Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 20:41:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16994; Sun, 7 Jan 96 20:41:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12927; Sun, 7 Jan 96 20:37:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12921; Sun, 7 Jan 96 20:37:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZ9Ht-00038CC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 20:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christine Lovejoy Subject: Can Pine automatically file? Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 22:04:01 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Can I set up pine to automatically file incoming messaages to folders based on the messages from or subject fields. I know you can do this in elm. Chris lovejoy@fore.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 20:42:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17027; Sun, 7 Jan 96 20:42:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10220; Sun, 7 Jan 96 20:37:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10214; Sun, 7 Jan 96 20:37:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZ9Hv-00038HC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 20:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harris@email.unc.edu (Trey Harris) Subject: Pine (imapd?) hangs changing message status Date: 4 Jan 1996 07:51:11 GMT Message-Id: <4cg0tf$tt8@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Recently I've been seeing Pine sometimes hang when I go into a folder (most often when it's my sent-mail folder), read a few messages and go back to my INBOX folder. All my mail is being accessed via IMAP. The imapd is the UW imapd included in the distribution of Pine 3.92. The client is Pine 3.92. Both are running on RS/6000 AIX 4 boxes. The hang lasts from three to ten minutes. While the hang is going on, memstat, iostat, vmstat, monitor, and even netstat all look good on both machines. The imapd process (actually rimapd, but I doubt that matters) does not appear to use any CPU (at least, from a ps listing) for the duration of the hang. Usually the hang is with both asterisks visible in the upper-left corner of the Pine screen, sometimes with neither. I have not seen it hang with but a single asterisk. The hang only occurs when I have changed the status of a message. I have also seen this hang occur immediately upon viewing a message in my sent-mail folder (which removes the "new" flag). Usually, however, it does not occur until I attempt to close sent-mail and go back to my INBOX. If I cd to my ~/mail directory on the IMAP server machine and attempt to do anything to read the files in that directory (ls, cat, vi, whatever) the command hangs until Pine finishes hanging. The moment Pine finishes hanging, the ls, cat, tail, or whatever abrubtly resumes. Has anyone seen this behavior before? Do you know what to do about it? -- Trey Harris http://sunsite.unc.edu/harris/ System Administrator, Project Isis, Office of Information Technology The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 21:20:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17485; Sun, 7 Jan 96 21:20:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13426; Sun, 7 Jan 96 21:18:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13420; Sun, 7 Jan 96 21:17:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZ9xB-00038CC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 21:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hank@bom.gov.au (Hank de Wit) Subject: Setting the Reply-to: field Date: 8 Jan 1996 04:37:48 GMT Message-Id: <4cq72sINNt4k@meteorology.ho.BoM.GOV.AU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: Hi all, Is there anyway of configuring pine to set and send a Reply-To: header as in the following example. Using SUN Select Mail --------------------- Return-Path: Received: from sarcm1.sa.bom.gov.au by saserver.sa.bom.gov.au. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA29930; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 14:51:58 +1030 From: hdewit@saserver.sa.bom.gov.au (Hank de Wit) To: hank Subject: test Reply-To: H.deWit@bom.gov.au Date: Mon, 8 Jan 96 04:22: 4 GMT Message-Id: <9601080422.042E7C@sarcm1.sa.bom.gov.au> X-Mailer: E-Mail 1.7 Content-Type: text Content-Length: 356 Status: Using Pine 3.91 --------------- Return-Path: Received: by saserver.sa.bom.gov.au. (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA29907; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 14:46:49 +1030 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 14:46:49 +1030 (CST) From: "Hank de_Wit (SA Computing)" To: Hank de_Wit Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 359 Status: Thanks in advance. ================================================================= Hank de Wit ph: (08) 366 2274 Computer Manager fx: (08) 362 0570 South Australian Regional Office Bureau of Meteorology internet: h.dewit@bom.gov.au ================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 22:31:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18509; Sun, 7 Jan 96 22:31:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11510; Sun, 7 Jan 96 22:28:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11504; Sun, 7 Jan 96 22:28:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZB0c-00038CC; Sun, 7 Jan 96 22:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@cal052012.student.utwente.nl (Remco van de Meent) Subject: Re: saving e-mail on my disk Date: 7 Jan 1996 18:40:49 GMT Message-Id: <4cp43h$bsn@driene.student.utwente.nl> References: <4cjjsv$eto@milo.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca> Status: O X-Status: Daniel Stern (stern@opus.freenet.vancouver.bc.ca) wrote on 5 Jan 1996 16:33:35 GMT: > Good morning. Does anyone know how I can save my e-mail on a floppy disk? > I use pine. It's evening right now :-) What O.S. are you using? If you're using Linux, then mount the floppy drive: mount /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy -t msdos then goto your mail-dir: cd ~/mail and copy the file saved-messages to /mnt/floppy You have to save the messages in pine!!! -- Remco van de Meent. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 22:58:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19036; Sun, 7 Jan 96 22:58:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14639; Sun, 7 Jan 96 22:55:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14633; Sun, 7 Jan 96 22:55:24 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18996; Sun, 7 Jan 96 22:55:14 -0800 Date: Sun, 7 Jan 1996 22:55:14 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: David Langs Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for the Macintosh? In-Reply-To: <4cp9bn$iot@redwood.cs.sc.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Dave, See http://www.washington.edu/imap or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software for a list of IMAP software we know about, including Mac clients. We have a feasibility study underway for a Mac Pine, but it's too soon to predict the outcome. -teg On 7 Jan 1996, David Langs wrote: > Hi: > > We have both Unix machines and Macs in our lab, and I have just recently > installed pine on our Unix machines, and so far I like it. I find the IMAP > feature intriguing. It would be nice if people who have Macs in their > offices could remotely access their mail folders on the Unix machines, but > I have so far not been able to find a version of Pine for the Macintosh. Does > such a thing exist, and if so where can I get it? If not, is there one in > the works? > > This is probably a frequently asked question, but I am new to this group. > > Thanks. > > Dave Langs > langs@scuch8.psc.sc.edu > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 23:49:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19954; Sun, 7 Jan 96 23:49:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15193; Sun, 7 Jan 96 23:47:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15187; Sun, 7 Jan 96 23:47:31 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 8 Jan 96 15:46:57 +0800 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 15:46:56 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Christine Lovejoy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Can Pine automatically file? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Christine Lovejoy wrote: > Can I set up pine to automatically file > incoming messaages to folders based on the messages > from or subject fields. I know you can do this > in elm. Well, it can't be done with elm alone. You need to configure "filter" from the elm distribution. You can continue to use "filter" from the elm distribution to filter your mail. The only thing that you have to be concerned with is that elm/filter stores incoming mail in a $HOME/Mail directory as the default while pine use $HOME/mail. Another alternative would be to use procmail. Someone had recently posted the location of the filter-FAQ...if you using the newsgroups to access this you can check the archives. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 7 23:53:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20014; Sun, 7 Jan 96 23:53:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12500; Sun, 7 Jan 96 23:50:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12494; Sun, 7 Jan 96 23:50:54 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 8 Jan 96 15:50:24 +0800 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 15:50:24 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Hank de Wit Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Setting the Reply-to: field In-Reply-To: <4cq72sINNt4k@meteorology.ho.BoM.GOV.AU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 8 Jan 1996, Hank de Wit wrote: > Is there anyway of configuring pine to set and send a Reply-To: header as > in the following example. If you are using 3.9X....and we hope you are...you can go to the setup/config menu and find the item "customized-hdrs" and enter the Reply-To: field as you have indicated. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 00:22:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20516; Mon, 8 Jan 96 00:22:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15522; Mon, 8 Jan 96 00:13:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15516; Mon, 8 Jan 96 00:13:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZCgN-00038HC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 00:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yincait@crash.cts.com (Brian Skowron) Subject: repeat/missing lines in index Date: 8 Jan 1996 07:11:34 GMT Message-Id: <4cqg36$k5b@news3.cts.com> Status: O X-Status: > I get repeat/missing lines in the Pine program. When I first open MAIL > usually as I scroll up the index duplicate lines appear until I scroll > down again--then the extras disappear. Also, in the index the top line of > the first page is repeated as the top line of the second page. > As I choose O OTHER COMMANDS the sets of commands are repeated at bottom > of screen again... > > The Ctrl-L (REPAINT SCREEN) command has ne effect on this. Neither does > reconfiguring my Practical Peripherals 14.4 MacClass modem. I have been > asking my provider support about this for over a year now. We tried some > UNIX commands at login that improved it somewhat but the basic problem > remains. >It is NOT a terminal emulation problem. I'm set to VT100.... > I use a Mac Centris 610 24/340 and ZTerm 0.9. > > Mr. Gray (Terry Gray ) suggested the following: "check the number of lines and columns on both ends (Zterm and Unix). If they are both 24x80, try setting the ZTerm terminal window size to 25 or more rows." I don't understand this. Brian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 01:37:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22357; Mon, 8 Jan 96 01:37:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13685; Mon, 8 Jan 96 01:33:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13679; Mon, 8 Jan 96 01:33:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZDss-00038CC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 01:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tommy Quitt Subject: Re: Folder in PINE 3.91 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:48:22 +0200 Message-Id: References: <4cee6b$f8f@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4cee6b$f8f@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Luis Montenegro wrote: > Date: Wed, 03 JAN 96 17:24:32 GMT > From: Luis Montenegro > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Folder in PINE 3.91 > > Hello. I created a folder "x" in PINE but I don't know how to leave messages in that folder or how > to transfer messages to that folder. > Thank you for your help, Luis. > Use the "save" command. Good luck, Tommy -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tommy Quitt tommyq@math.tau.ac.il home page: http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~tommyq -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 02:07:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22934; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:07:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16841; Mon, 8 Jan 96 01:58:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16821; Mon, 8 Jan 96 01:58:44 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:56:18 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA25156; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:56:18 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:56:18 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: SUZANNE FORTIN Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help-- error message In-Reply-To: <4ckkk0$ep5@athena.ulaval.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The chances are very high that this error message actually originates from the Usenet News server you are using, and Pine is merely reporting to you the error message the news server reported to it. This type of message occurs when the news server's disk where articles are stored becomes full. When this happens you can still read news from the server, but it will not accept new articles being posted to it (and new articles from other linked servers will also be suspended). When some disk space is released, typically by the overnight clean-up job or the News Administrator person leaping into action, the server will again start accepting articles from people. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 6 Jan 1996, SUZANNE FORTIN wrote: > Hi > > I'm curious. I was in my mail reader, reading the newsgroups to which I > subscribe. I tried posting, but an error message came up: "error-- no > space left on device writing article". The message did not post. > > What does that mean? How can I fix the problem? > > I can post with my USENET reader, except it's just a little bit more of a > pain to go to USENET. > > > Please e-mail me. > > Thank you very kindly. > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Suzanne Fortin | > undergraduate student | Editor of *Minerva* a diminutive e-mail zine > history | of poetry and opinion. The Winter 1996 issue > Laval University | is out. E-mail me for a free copy. Submission > Ste-Foy, PQ, Canada | guidelines included. > aaa227@agora.ulaval.ca | > __________________________________________________________________________ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 02:12:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23029; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:12:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16801; Mon, 8 Jan 96 01:56:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16793; Mon, 8 Jan 96 01:56:00 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:52:27 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA24799; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:52:54 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:52:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Patrick Schoenbach Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sending attached files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Yes, it is possible ... but not automatcially. You need to: 1. UUencode your file. 2. Run Pine and start composing your message. 3. Place your cursor in the message body then read in the UUencoded file (by typing ^R followed by the filename). Files included into the message body in this way are not automatically encoded using Base64 or Quoted Printable (unless they have even one "funny" character or exceedingly long lines). Files included by naming in the "Attachment" field are *always* encoded using Base64. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 5 Jan 1996, Patrick Schoenbach wrote: > Hi there, > > is it possible to use uuencode instead of base64-encoding for attached > files? If so, how could I do this? > > Bye. > -- > ----------------------------------- > E-Mail: pschoenb@composer.mayn.de > ----------------------------------- > PGP Public Key available > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 02:16:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23101; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:16:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14201; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:07:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14189; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:07:39 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:06:02 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA27055; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:06:41 GMT Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 10:06:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "P.H. Van broekhoven" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: random .signature files In-Reply-To: <4cl0l1$rgr@muss.CIS.McMaster.CA> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It isn't possible in Pine 3.91 (unless you dive in and modify your local copy of the source code and recompile!). However I *think* I heard a rumour that this may be in Pine 3.92 (don't hold me to this as I may be wrong). Personally I would prefer to see automatic use of local/remote signature files instead of the frill of random ones ... but then I may be old fashioned in thinking that the _content_ of a message is more important than the signature. :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 6 Jan 1996, P.H. Van broekhoven wrote: > > Is it possible (and if so how) to have PINE generate a random .signature? > > IE, everytime I compose a message, it pulls out a random quote (or other > bit of text) from a list. > > Thanks. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 02:50:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23583; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:50:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17356; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:43:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17350; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:43:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZF2r-00038CC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: I have new mail (I dont) Date: 8 Jan 1996 10:06:50 GMT Message-Id: <4cqqbq$mms@fu-berlin.de> References: Status: O X-Status: "G. Harney" writes: >whenever i send a message to anybody in pine and then exit, my shell (?) >tells me ; "You have new mail in /usr/mail/gharney" when in fact the user >that I just sent the mail to should be getting that message, not me. Well, what do you expect when you send the mail "to anybody *in* Pine"? Maybe sending mail *out* helps. ;-) >Does pine remove and then recreate the system mailbox from the copy it uses >(and modifies) while you are reading mail, appending any new mail which may >have come in? Yes, new mail is appended to your mailbox (file). That's why it is called a mailbox, see? >If so this may explain it, since then bash sees a completely new file, >and could be excused for thinking that it was all new mail. No, your shell does not see a new file, but it notices that time stamp (and the size) of your mailbox (as given by $MAIL) has changed. Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 03:05:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23805; Mon, 8 Jan 96 03:05:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14649; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:53:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14643; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:53:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZFA0-00038HC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 02:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Outgoing addressbook mail w/o CC's Date: 8 Jan 1996 10:09:56 GMT Message-Id: <4cqqhk$mnj@fu-berlin.de> References: <4cplsr$9l9@micro.internexus.net> Status: O X-Status: master@micro.internexus.net (Laszlo Vecsey) writes: >How do I send a message to everyone on my mailing list without having a >huge To: field listing everyone on the list? Put the addresses onto the Bcc line! >First off it's annoying to receive such a message because you have to scroll >down so far to get to it, and secondly I'd rather not have everyone on the >list know who else is on the list. Exactly! This is described in more detail on page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.alias.faq.html Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 03:29:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24223; Mon, 8 Jan 96 03:29:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14934; Mon, 8 Jan 96 03:18:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14928; Mon, 8 Jan 96 03:18:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZFXn-00038HC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 03:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: Can Pine automatically file? Date: 8 Jan 1996 09:56:41 GMT Message-Id: <4cqpop$mdd@fu-berlin.de> References: Status: O X-Status: Christine Lovejoy writes: >Can I set up pine to automatically file incoming messaages to folders based >on the messages from or subject fields. I know you can do this in elm. You can use ELM's "filter" to filter your mail as mail readers are independent of the filter you use. For more info please read this page: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pine/filtering.email.html Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 03:31:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24328; Mon, 8 Jan 96 03:31:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17744; Mon, 8 Jan 96 03:18:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17738; Mon, 8 Jan 96 03:18:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZFXL-00038CC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 03:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Terminal lines and columns Date: 8 Jan 1996 10:23:19 GMT Message-Id: <4cqran$n3h@fu-berlin.de> References: <4cqg36$k5b@news3.cts.com> Status: O X-Status: yincait@crash.cts.com (Brian Skowron) writes: >"check the number of lines and columns on both ends (Zterm and Unix). >If they are both 24x80, try setting the ZTerm terminal window size to >25 or more rows." >I don't understand this. Let me present you a model od terminals which hopefully explains this: A terminal is a "window" which can only show characters in a grid given by columns and lines. The window used on your machine as displayed by your terminal program (T) must "match" the window as given by the host you connect to (H). If the number of lines and columns do not match then you will see garbish. Example: Assume that T uses lines=25 and columns=80, but H has been set to lines=24 and columns=80. When T receives another line to print in lines 25 it will overwrite line 25. On H however there is no line 25, so it will move to line 1 and overwrite that one. There are lots more problems as terminals use different codes like "jump to position" and "clear line" etc. Therefore you must make sure that ther terminals "match". To see which terminal is used on a UNIX machine use the command "stty" (set teletype). Welcome to the world of great ideas and incompatibilities! :-) Sven From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 05:10:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27408; Mon, 8 Jan 96 05:10:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19294; Mon, 8 Jan 96 05:04:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19288; Mon, 8 Jan 96 05:04:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZHBO-00038CC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 05:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: apattser@mozart.inet.co.th (Apatt Seriniyom) Subject: Attachment: a newbie writes Date: 8 Jan 1996 11:47:49 GMT Message-Id: <4cr095$5tl@senior.nectec.or.th> Status: O X-Status: I've only been on the internet for about a week. Can somebody please tell me how do I attach a file (such as MS Word's .DOC or .WKS) to my outgoing e-mail using PIne (which is my server's e-mail program). Also somebody sent me a file attached to an e-mail how do I extract or decode it. Thank you very much. Apatt From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 05:31:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27731; Mon, 8 Jan 96 05:31:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16760; Mon, 8 Jan 96 05:19:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16754; Mon, 8 Jan 96 05:19:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZHQy-00038CC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 05:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nebojsa@argos.tel.hr (Nebojsa Hrmic) Subject: Pine reading /usr/spool/pop/user Date: 8 Jan 1996 11:35:02 GMT Message-Id: <4cqvh6$dv0@bagan.srce.hr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello! Does anyone know how to make pine (or elm) reading pop mail on osf1. On my system I have osf1 POP server installed and problem seems to be that owner of pop maildrops is user pop, which makes pine unable to read it. Nebojsa Hrmic nebojsa.hrmic@tel.hr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 06:17:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28580; Mon, 8 Jan 96 06:17:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19993; Mon, 8 Jan 96 06:06:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19983; Mon, 8 Jan 96 06:06:14 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA15391; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 08:05:54 -0600 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 08:05:53 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Brian Skowron Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: repeat/missing lines in index In-Reply-To: <4cqg36$k5b@news3.cts.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ....you're looking at a known bug in the terminal emulation in Zterm .9. In your terminal setup, there is a dialog box which lets you set the lines. It's been a while since I've seen a Mac of any flavor, but I recall that it defaults to 25 lines and you must reset it to 24. ....better yet, get a newer Zterm. .9 went away more than a year ago! __| \ \ / __| _ \ _ \ Jim Esten sysop@acs.stritch.edu \__ \ \ / \__ \ ( | __/ \____/ _| \____/ \___/ _| "In the beginning was the word, _____________________________ and the word was ..... adjust" ....also at jesten@msn.com ....find me on the web at http://www.stritch.edu/sysop/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 10:01:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07516; Mon, 8 Jan 96 10:01:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24776; Mon, 8 Jan 96 09:47:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24765; Mon, 8 Jan 96 09:47:04 -0800 Received: (jgordon@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.6.10/8.5) id LAA07844; Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:39:51 -0600 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 11:39:51 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey D Gordon To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine for UnixWare 2.01 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi: David L. Miller of pine suggested I write you an email. I am having the 'darndest' time trying to get pine to run on our Unixware 2.01 box. I was hoping you could rescue me! I've tried downloading from your Pine Server, I've bought a CD Rom with Pine on in (Internet Tools), copied pine from another System V server...and none of them work. Could you tell me if pine will run uner Unixware 2 and where I can get it and how to install it. Pine is the BEST email program around...I glad it is free but in all fairness you should start charging for it....it is great!!!! Thank you....Jeff Gordon.... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 13:13:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16576; Mon, 8 Jan 96 13:13:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28075; Mon, 8 Jan 96 13:05:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28069; Mon, 8 Jan 96 13:05:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZOg6-00038CC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 13:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine for the Macintosh? Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 09:12:33 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4cp9bn$iot@redwood.cs.sc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4cp9bn$iot@redwood.cs.sc.edu> Status: O X-Status: We are currently doing experiments to "determine the feasibility of a Mac port." A Mac port of Pine, if one is released, would be very much like Windows Pine -- that is, it would be text-oriented with only a minimal amount of GUI features (some menu and mouse action). The goal is to keep the Pine interface more or less constant across ports. There are also native IMAP clients for the Mac such as Mailstrom and MailDrop. I like MailDrop a lot, and I expect to see a demonstration of the latest Mailstrom later today. See ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software for more information about these and other clients. On 7 Jan 1996, David Langs wrote: > We have both Unix machines and Macs in our lab, and I have just recently > installed pine on our Unix machines, and so far I like it. I find the IMAP > feature intriguing. It would be nice if people who have Macs in their > offices could remotely access their mail folders on the Unix machines, but > I have so far not been able to find a version of Pine for the Macintosh. Does > such a thing exist, and if so where can I get it? If not, is there one in > the works? -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 14:34:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21292; Mon, 8 Jan 96 14:34:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02605; Mon, 8 Jan 96 14:20:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02598; Mon, 8 Jan 96 14:20:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZPut-00038CC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 14:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pauljr@nceet.snre.umich.edu (Paul Nowak) Subject: Re: Email Message Databases Date: 8 Jan 1996 17:28:06 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article, andym@parr.com (Andy McNiece) wrote: > Try the program called glimpse. It builds indices from any database. > _____________________________________________________________________________ > Andy McNiece, Parr Lumber Co. andym@parr.com > 5630 Five Oaks Drive Phone 503-614-2525 > Hillsboro, Oregon USA 97124 Fax 503-629-8635 Andy, Thanks for the info. I took a look at this and, while it seems like a powerful indexing tool across files, it does not seem to have the ability to create the type of output (I'm looking to create a viewable directory or a text file) I'm looking for. Thanks. Any other ideas out there? Paul Nowak pauljr@nceet.snre.umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 17:22:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28959; Mon, 8 Jan 96 17:22:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05138; Mon, 8 Jan 96 17:15:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05132; Mon, 8 Jan 96 17:15:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZScZ-00038HC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 17:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbweiss@scws38.harvard.edu (Mitchell Weiss) Subject: Pine parser Date: 8 Jan 1996 20:36:33 GMT Message-Id: <4crv8h$fd3@decaxp.harvard.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am looking for a parser for e-mail. If anyone knows of one...please help. I want to read through e-mail and find the new incoming and new outgoing and get tthe to addresses and the dates. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 18:07:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00590; Mon, 8 Jan 96 18:07:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08274; Mon, 8 Jan 96 18:00:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08268; Mon, 8 Jan 96 18:00:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZTIp-00038HC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 17:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: whamblen@acsu.buffalo.edu (William D. Hamblen) Subject: [Q] ANSI printing w/Pine and Win95 telnet? Date: 8 Jan 1996 19:48:10 GMT Message-Id: <4crsdq$g6f@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone found a telnet client that runs reliably under Windows 95 *and* supports the attached-to-ansi printing in Pine (UNIX 3.91)? My boss just upgraded to Windows 95 (after I told him I didn't know enough to support it yet) and is now upset because he can't print his email messages anymore. Everything worked fine under Windows for Workgroups using Novell's Lan Workplace for Windows telnet program. I've tried two telnet programs in 95 so far (the built-in one, and something that's part of a package called EXceed) without any luck. Anyone... ? Thanks in advance for any help. Bill Hamblen -- Bill Hamblen whamblen@acsu.buffalo.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 18:07:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00601; Mon, 8 Jan 96 18:07:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08282; Mon, 8 Jan 96 18:00:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08276; Mon, 8 Jan 96 18:00:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZTJ6-00038MC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 17:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jfrohm@alpha.delta.edu (Johanna Frohm) Subject: Extracting From: address to Address list Date: 8 Jan 1996 15:09:43 -0500 Message-Id: <4crtm7$3ms@alpha.delta.edu> Status: O X-Status: When a message is received from an individual, is there a way to add that single address to a list in a personal addressbook? I tried this awhile back. If there were multiple addresses, it seemed to work. How is it done, or can it be done, for a single address? I'm using Pine 3.91. Thank you in advance. Johanna =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Johanna Frohm jfrohm@alpha.delta.edu http://www.delta.edu/~jfrohm From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 18:10:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00698; Mon, 8 Jan 96 18:10:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06086; Mon, 8 Jan 96 18:00:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06080; Mon, 8 Jan 96 18:00:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZTJ6-00038KC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 17:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: C Lance Moxley Subject: Re: [Q] ANSI printing w/Pine and Win95 telnet? Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 14:17:46 -0600 Message-Id: <30F17BEA.41C6@uiuc.edu> References: <4crsdq$g6f@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: William D. Hamblen wrote: > > Has anyone found a telnet client that runs reliably under Windows 95 > *and* supports the attached-to-ansi printing in Pine (UNIX 3.91)? My > boss just upgraded to Windows 95 (after I told him I didn't know > enough to support it yet) and is now upset because he can't print his > email messages anymore. Just use PC-Pine. I've been using it with Win95 since early last summer without any glitches at all. -- C Lance Moxley E-Mail: clm@uiuc.edu University of Illinois FAX: 217 244-1279 Urbana - Champaign URL: http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/clm From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 19:37:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02618; Mon, 8 Jan 96 19:37:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07610; Mon, 8 Jan 96 19:30:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07604; Mon, 8 Jan 96 19:30:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZUit-00038HC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 19:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sjk@cisco.com (Scott J. Kramer) Subject: displaying X-Face headers? Date: 08 Jan 1996 13:42:19 -0800 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: A Pine user here asks if there'a any way to display the X-Face headers contained on some messages. Like with most MUA's, the only way to do it would seem to be by piping the message to a program that extracts the header(s) for input to the appropriate viewer. Has anyone created a script for doing this on UNIX? Please respond via e-mail since I don't read this newsgroup. Thanx, -sjk -- Scott J. Kramer Cisco Systems, Inc. UNIX Systems Administrator Advanced Customer Systems 170 W. Tasman Drive +1.408.526.8738 San Jose, CA 95134-1706 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 20:28:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03422; Mon, 8 Jan 96 20:28:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10800; Mon, 8 Jan 96 20:16:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10794; Mon, 8 Jan 96 20:16:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZVRj-00038RC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 20:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mflll@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dr. Laurence Leff) Subject: pager in pine Date: 8 Jan 1996 16:29:49 -0600 Message-Id: <4cs5st$554@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to turn of f the integrated pager in pine. I have someone who just wants their mail to be fed to them continuously. They don't want a more prompt. They have their capture set to retrieve their materials. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 22:04:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05178; Mon, 8 Jan 96 22:04:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09664; Mon, 8 Jan 96 21:52:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09655; Mon, 8 Jan 96 21:52:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZWta-00038HC; Mon, 8 Jan 96 21:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreiser@netcom.com (Matthew Reiser) Subject: [Q] pine 3.91 hangs while spellchecker idle. Message-Id: Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:06:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: Oh great pine gurus, I humbly kneel and implore your assistance: Been running 3.91 on SunOS 4.1.3_U1 for 1 year. Runs great except: During a spell-check, if no keystrokes are entered for 10-20 seconds, pine seems to freak out. It prints 'Killed' and dies to a shell prompt. In fact the entire telnet session is frozen (neither ^C nor ^Z revive it). Disk space and ps table are ok. Checked perms on /tmp and /var/tmp. They seem ok: drwxrwsrwt 4 bin staff 512 Jan 8 13:52 /tmp drwxrwsrwx 2 bin staff 512 Jan 8 13:49 /var/tmp Has anyone else seen this? Any ideas? Might pine 3.92 solve it? -- Matthew Reiser, mreiser@netcom.com /\_/\ ( o.o ) A sense of humor keen enough to show a man his own > ~ < absurdities will keep him from the commission of all sins, or nearly all, save those that are worth committing. -- Samuel Butler ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 8 22:55:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06211; Mon, 8 Jan 96 22:55:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10419; Mon, 8 Jan 96 22:44:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10413; Mon, 8 Jan 96 22:44:19 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25393; Mon, 8 Jan 96 22:44:12 -0800 Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 22:44:12 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Mike Brudenell Cc: "P.H. Van broekhoven" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: random .signature files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > It isn't possible in Pine 3.91 (unless you dive in and modify your local > copy of the source code and recompile!). > > However I *think* I heard a rumour that this may be in Pine 3.92 (don't > hold me to this as I may be wrong). Nope, no signature handling changes in store that I can think of. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 9 01:31:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09225; Tue, 9 Jan 96 01:31:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14801; Tue, 9 Jan 96 01:16:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14795; Tue, 9 Jan 96 01:16:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZa9r-00038HC; Tue, 9 Jan 96 01:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Can Pine automatically file? Date: Mon, 8 Jan 1996 19:44:23 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Christine Lovejoy wrote: > Can I set up pine to automatically file > incoming messaages to folders based on the messages > from or subject fields. I know you can do this > in elm. If you are using Unix Pine, you can use procmail or filter to prefile incoming messages into folders which Pine can then read. Nancy McGough has a lot of good material on this. If you have a Web browser, look at my home page and follow the link to Nancy's pages. (You will have to follow down several links to get to the material on mail filtering.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 9 04:21:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12657; Tue, 9 Jan 96 04:21:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14349; Tue, 9 Jan 96 04:07:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14343; Tue, 9 Jan 96 04:06:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZcmM-00038HC; Tue, 9 Jan 96 04:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@cal052012.student.utwente.nl (Remco van de Meent) Subject: Re: Attachment: a newbie writes Date: 9 Jan 1996 01:19:19 GMT Message-Id: <4csfqn$q56@driene.student.utwente.nl> References: <4cr095$5tl@senior.nectec.or.th> Status: O X-Status: Apatt Seriniyom (apattser@mozart.inet.co.th) wrote on 8 Jan 1996 11:47:49 GMT: > I've only been on the internet for about a week. Can somebody please tell > me how do I attach a file (such as MS Word's .DOC or .WKS) to my outgoing > e-mail using PIne (which is my server's e-mail program). Also somebody > sent me a file attached to an e-mail how do I extract or decode it. > Watch the status lines! So you'd use + -- Remco van de Meent. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 9 11:54:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16079; Tue, 9 Jan 96 11:54:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19106; Tue, 9 Jan 96 07:07:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19100; Tue, 9 Jan 96 07:07:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tZfZo-00038HC; Tue, 9 Jan 96 07:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joe Savage Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Date: Tue, 09 Jan 1996 06:55:29 -0600 Message-Id: <30F265C1.4D0@nttex.com> References: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> <30F0383F.58C2@nttex.com> <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Luk Van de Heyning wrote: > > Joe Savage wrote: > > >David Looke wrote: > >> > >> Can anyone advise me on the best Mail Server for Windows NT? > >> > > >I am currently running an evaluation copy of post.office and it out performs all the > >others. It's easy to setup and administer and I would recommend it highly for a small to > >medium size lan. > > Perhaps you could be so kind to let us know where to find it? Any URL > to it? > > Thanks! Sure can -- http://www.software.com/Product_Info/Product_Info.html -joe- -- **** Joe Savage, Microsoft Certified Professional **** **** New Tech Computers **** **** Austin, Texas -- God's Country **** **** jsavage@nttex.com **** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 9 12:37:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29039; Tue, 9 Jan 96 12:37:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27650; Tue, 9 Jan 96 12:25:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hyak.amath.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27644; Tue, 9 Jan 96 12:25:53 -0800 Received: by hyak.amath.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.21 ) id AA10169; Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:25:53 -0800 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 12:25:52 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Stern To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: reading digests with PINE Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Dear piney-folks: I get a 30,000 -- 50,000 character e-mail digest each week from a mailing list I subscribe to. Does pine have a way of viewing a digest as a list of separate letters in a folder? It would make forwarding or saving sections of it easier. Thanks, =========================================> Dept. of Applied Mathematics Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 University of Washington stern@amath.washington.edu Box 352420 http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195-2420 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 9 16:00:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09431; Tue, 9 Jan 96 16:00:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03928; Tue, 9 Jan 96 15:52:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03922; Tue, 9 Jan 96 15:52:56 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07012; Tue, 9 Jan 96 15:52:40 -0800 Date: Tue, 9 Jan 1996 15:52:37 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Yossi Klein Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 3.92 Wish List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Yossi Klein wrote: > 1. 'pine' takes messages forwarded from Sun's 'mailtool' and splits it up > into 2 messages. (Is this a pine problem or a mailtool problem)? > This is a matter of considerable debate. For more information, see the Pine FAQ, http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq.mbox > 2. When responding to a mail message, if you do a ^J to justify your > message, it justifies the included text in the original message. 'To > Spell', ^T, seems to be smart enough not to check spelling on the > included text; why can't 'justify' be just as smart ? > Pine 3.92 will understand included text; at least to some degree... > 3. When selecting news-groups using a pattern (^X) only one group can be > selected for subscription. Since ^X doest take some time, it would be > nice to be able to select multiple groups that matched the pattern for > subscription. > This will be available in 3.92. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 10 07:50:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07340; Wed, 10 Jan 96 07:50:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17159; Wed, 10 Jan 96 07:37:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from offsv1.cis.McMaster.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17153; Wed, 10 Jan 96 07:37:28 -0800 Received: (from cseeley@localhost) by offsv1.CIS.McMaster.CA (8.7.1/8.7.1) id KAA11785; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:37:24 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 10:37:23 -0500 (EST) From: Carolynn Seeley To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE for solaris x86 where??? (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am getting really worried about some problems we are experiencing with PINE since I upgraded to PINE 3.91. 1. Our main campus email server, a SUN OS 5.4, was upgraded to PINE 3.91 and people are now LOSING MAIL. Looking at the last message in their INBOX we have found a TAB, Ctrl/Z, or Octal 177 character in a line by itself at the end of the message. Following that there are multi messages tagged on the end of this last message that never show up in the INBOX. PLUS This last message just keeps growing and adding messages. Once the mail recipient realizes that something is funny, usually by printing his last message which lists ALL the messages, he notifies us. We can then edit the INBOX and remove the offending character. 2. I just received this NEW message (see below). It shows in my INBOX with a date of xxx 13. When I look at the message, a question mark shows in front of the date 13 Feb 94. Note when I forwarded the message the '?' changed to a '^T' . We upgraded to PINE 3.91 on a Sun OS 4.1.4 after running PINE 3.89 for a long time with no problems. This server only has a few users so the volume isn't there to generate the problems such as I'm getting on the main campus email server. Can someone PLEASE help. I will be forced to revert back to PINE 3.89 if we can't resolve this problem soon. Does anyone have any ideas at all? Thanks for your help. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carolynn Seeley email: seeley@mcmaster.ca Consultant, Office Systems Support cseeley@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca PINE Administrator CIS, McMaster University, Hamilton, CANADA --------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date:  13 Feb 94 18:25:15 CST From: safergus@csipros.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE for solaris x86 where??? Greetings, I'm trying to obtain the pine binary compiled for solaris on Intel (x86). Does ANYONE know where I could ftp this from??? Better yet, if someone could mail it to me, I would be extremely grateful. THANKS A TON! Scot safergus@csipros.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 10 13:25:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23540; Wed, 10 Jan 96 13:25:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26971; Wed, 10 Jan 96 13:22:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26965; Wed, 10 Jan 96 13:22:08 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28713; Wed, 10 Jan 96 13:22:04 -0800 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 13:22:02 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller Reply-To: David L Miller To: Carolynn Seeley Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, safergus@csipros.com Subject: Re: PINE for solaris x86 where??? (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 10 Jan 1996, Carolynn Seeley wrote: > I am getting really worried about some problems we are experiencing with > PINE since I upgraded to PINE 3.91. > > 1. Our main campus email server, a SUN OS 5.4, was upgraded to PINE 3.91 > and people are now LOSING MAIL. Looking at the last message in their > INBOX we have found a TAB, Ctrl/Z, or Octal 177 character in a line by > itself at the end of the message. Following that there are multi messages > tagged on the end of this last message that never show up in the INBOX. > PLUS This last message just keeps growing and adding messages. Once the mail > recipient realizes that something is funny, usually by printing his last > message which lists ALL the messages, he notifies us. We can then edit the > INBOX and remove the offending character. > Is there any possibility the folder was accessed from a PC via NFS or otherwise changed by something other than Pine or the usual delivery agent? > > 2. I just received this NEW message (see below). It shows in my INBOX with a > date of xxx 13. When I look at the message, a question mark shows in front > of the date 13 Feb 94. Note when I forwarded the message the '?' changed to > a '^T' . We upgraded to PINE 3.91 on a Sun OS 4.1.4 after > running PINE 3.89 for a long time with no problems. This server only has a few > users so the volume isn't there to generate the problems such as I'm > getting on the main campus email server. > I see the same thing. The sender of that message apparently has a broken mailer or cc:Mail gaqteway that is sending bogus date headers... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 10 17:19:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04962; Wed, 10 Jan 96 17:19:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05740; Wed, 10 Jan 96 17:09:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mason2.gmu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05733; Wed, 10 Jan 96 17:09:01 -0800 Received: by mason2.gmu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv1) id AA21910; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 20:09:00 -0500 Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 20:09:00 -0500 (EST) From: Dante Ciolfi X-Sender: dciolfi@mason2.gmu.edu To: Pine-Info Email List Subject: Printing Speed Bump Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi. I am a student at George Mason University in Fairfax, VA/USA. We have an OSF1 operating system (Unix-based). Users in the on-campus computer labs as well as users accessing from their home PC's encounter a problem when printing from Pine - after each print job, a blank sheet of paper is sent through the printer. Is there any way to prevent this from occurring? Thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 11 07:45:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25857; Thu, 11 Jan 96 07:45:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15661; Thu, 11 Jan 96 07:27:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.crl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15655; Thu, 11 Jan 96 07:27:52 -0800 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA28846 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 11 Jan 1996 07:25:36 -0800 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA29059 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Thu, 11 Jan 1996 07:17:04 -0800 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 07:17:03 -0800 (PST) From: "J.M. Ivler (Infobahn Xpress)" X-Sender: ivler@crl.crl.com To: Terry Gray Cc: "J.M. Ivler" , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: To the developers... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Read-Receipt-To: ivler@crl.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 21 Oct 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > Date: Sat, 21 Oct 1995 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT) > From: Terry Gray > To: "J.M. Ivler" > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: To the developers... > > > On 21 Oct 1995, J.M. Ivler wrote: > > > So, when is the next release? > > Getting closer. Closer to what? 1997? ;-} note the smiley.... anyway, any idea on when this may actually happen? You can even give the answer in weeks, months, years, decades... ;-} ***** J.M. Ivler E-mail address by preference: ivler@i-xpress.com Infobahn Xpress ivler@crl.com Los Alamitos, CA PGP Public Key Available: finger ivler@crl.com (310) 596 3753 URL: http://www.crl.com/~ivler/jmi.html WWW-based Solutions; Servers - CGI - HTML, Tcl/Tk, Training and Development Key fingerprint = BB AE BF 61 48 CE 1F 72 F5 C2 92 FE 85 02 A1 44 ***** "It's Time." "Why Not." - _The Wild Bunch_ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 11 11:24:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06272; Thu, 11 Jan 96 11:24:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23815; Thu, 11 Jan 96 11:12:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hercules.baker.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23806; Thu, 11 Jan 96 11:12:02 -0800 Received: by baker.edu (5.0/2.25) id AA00410; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 14:05:49 +0500 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 14:05:49 -0500 (EST) From: Matthew Mcintosh X-Sender: mmcint01@hercules To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 82 Status: O X-Status: Is there any mail I can E-mail through Pine from Baker College in Flint to SVSU? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 11 14:20:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16515; Thu, 11 Jan 96 14:20:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26737; Thu, 11 Jan 96 14:11:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26727; Thu, 11 Jan 96 14:11:34 -0800 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA05159; Thu, 11 Jan 1996 14:11:15 -0800 Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 14:11:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian P. Hampson" To: Pine Mailing List Subject: Multiple news sources for NNTP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I would like to be able to configure TWO or more News hosts...how do I keep their .newsrcs from colliding, since one server may number articles differently than another? Also...how do I set up News collections for more than ONE news server? B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Brian P. Hampson Internet : brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administrator, Air(2m/70cm): VE7NNW | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733| |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------http://www.asl-labs.bc.ca/----------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 12 04:01:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13821; Fri, 12 Jan 96 04:01:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11593; Fri, 12 Jan 96 03:51:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from KVIANA.KVI.nl by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11587; Fri, 12 Jan 96 03:51:24 -0800 Received: from KVI.nl by KVI.nl (PMDF V5.0-5 #14551) id <01HZX89ZTKV49ZMYF9@KVI.nl>; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 12:50:09 +0100 (MET) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 12:50:09 +0100 (MET) From: "Roel Alkema Kernfysisch Versneller Instituut, Groningen" Subject: OpenVMS PMDF folders and PINE To: PINE-INFO@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU Cc: ALKEMA@KVI.nl Message-Id: <01HZX89ZTMQQ9ZMYF9@KVI.nl> X-Ps-Qualifiers: /FORM=A4/LEFT_MARGIN=36/TOP_MARGIN=36 X-Vms-To: PINE-INFO@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU X-Vms-Cc: ALKEMA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: Hello, About Pine version 3.91 for windows I have tested OpenVMS PMDF IMAP4 by hand with the command: a002 list "" "*" This results in a correctly formed list with all my (remote) folders * LIST (\Noinferiors) NIL MYFOLDER * LIST (\Noinferiors) NIL SCRATCH * LIST (\Noinferiors) NIL PATHWORKS ... A002 OK LIST completed But I can not get PINE to show this list, Is there a workaround or some settings to get these folders from the open VMS system? By the way the INBOX folder works correctly. Please send responses directly, I am not subscribed to this list. Thanks, Roel ================================================================================ Roel D. Alkema Phone : +31 (50) 633617 Kernfysisch Versneller Instituut Fax : +31 (50) 634003 Zernikelaan 25 Surfnet : kviclu::alkema 9747 AA Groningen NL Nederland Internet : alkema@kvi.nl ================================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 12 09:11:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24299; Fri, 12 Jan 96 09:11:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16733; Fri, 12 Jan 96 08:49:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from piggy.harding.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16718; Fri, 12 Jan 96 08:49:19 -0800 Received: from Harding.edu by Harding.edu (PMDF V5.0-4 #15069) id <01HZX520F57QAKTIUQ@Harding.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 10:50:42 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 10:50:42 -0500 (CDT) From: knight@Harding.edu Subject: Redefining Pico editor keys To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: Hi. Does anybody know if there's ANY way to redefine any of the Pico special editing keys? We have used ^^ (Control-Carrot) for years as a special key to switch sessions on terminals connected to terminal servers. We have just started using Pine on VMS. If a user in Pico enters ^^ the terminal server intercepts it. Changing the special key on all of our terminal servers would be a major undertaking. I've looked through the last years' archives and found several suggestions, but any successful creation of the ^^ keys still ends up with the same result: The terminal server intercepts it. What we really need to do is redefine the 'Mark' key to be something besides ^^. ?? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Adrian Knight | Campus Network Manager Harding University | Internet: KNIGHT@HARDING.EDU 900 E. Center, Box 2264 | Phone: (501) 279-4440 Searcy, AR 72149-0001 | FAX: (501) 279-4600 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 12 09:25:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25060; Fri, 12 Jan 96 09:25:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17500; Fri, 12 Jan 96 09:09:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cariari.ucr.ac.cr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17486; Fri, 12 Jan 96 09:08:52 -0800 Received: (from delacruz@localhost) by cariari.ucr.ac.cr (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA52385 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 11:05:59 -0600 From: "Yalena De La Cruz F." Message-Id: <199601121705.LAA52385@cariari.ucr.ac.cr> Subject: info To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 11:05:58 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Length: 419 Status: O X-Status: I need some information about pine. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dra. Yalena de la Cruz delacruz@cariari.ucr.ac.cr Apartado postal 640-2050 Tel. Fax 283-5220 San Pedro, Costa Rica Tel. 259-7707 ================================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 12 11:17:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00804; Fri, 12 Jan 96 11:17:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20891; Fri, 12 Jan 96 11:10:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aurora.cstp.umkc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20885; Fri, 12 Jan 96 11:10:50 -0800 Received: by aurora.cstp.umkc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20Dec94-0832AM) id AA11309; Fri, 12 Jan 1996 13:10:49 -0600 Date: Fri, 12 Jan 1996 13:10:49 -0600 (CST) From: Anuj Agrawal To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID S80WL): Error whilst opening folders. (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-106775614-818869814=:7815" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-106775614-818869814=:7815 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi, i've read the FAQ on Folder Problems and it seems that my problem could be related to the folder lock deal, but i'm not sure. We have a number of UNIX boxes in our department. Recently we added 2 more Alpha machines, and we've always been using a common file sharing system. On the older machines, Pine 3.91 works like a whiz. But with the newer machines, no configuration changes have been made, but everytime we Goto a Folder, it would give the following error above the 2 rows of Commands at the bottom of the screen: [Error creating /users/a/anuja/unix/mail/foldername.lock: I/O error] Although it doesn't lose any mail, and does the saving and moving of mails to the folders properly, but the error is worrisome. This has happened to any user who tries to use Pine, not just me. We've checked to ensure that no other Pine session was open. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Anuj. --0-106775614-818869814=:7815-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 13 07:57:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06643; Sat, 13 Jan 96 07:57:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12008; Sat, 13 Jan 96 07:49:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tortoise.oise.on.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12002; Sat, 13 Jan 96 07:49:35 -0800 Received: by tortoise.oise.on.ca (5.0/SMI-SVR4 (rsm951016)) id AA11479; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 10:46:10 -0500 Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 10:46:08 -0500 (EST) From: William McQueen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Too many messages in folder: Question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1203 Status: O X-Status: >From time to time, I acquire too many messages in a specific folder to read in a manageable period of time. Or, I may want to accumulate a large number of messages from a specific discussion group. Of course most sites have limited disk space and ask users to maintain small numbers of messages in the message base. Ideally, it would make sense to offload the incoming messages to my local PC at home, and read them off-line. However, as I recall there is no current system for PINE for off-line reading. However, should I want to preserve a batch of incoming messages in a pine readable format (not ASCII text files), is there an appropriate way for compressing the raw message data for a specific folder with high traffic in order to reduce the amount of disk space consumed when large quantities of messages accumulate? Any suggestions? Thanks very much. Bye for now, Bill McQueen in Toronto .________________________________________________________. | | | wmcqueen@oise.on.ca | | "Life is a seamless robe of learning!" | |________________________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 13 16:11:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15318; Sat, 13 Jan 96 16:11:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20969; Sat, 13 Jan 96 16:06:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20963; Sat, 13 Jan 96 16:06:08 -0800 Received: from teco03a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de by teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de (8.6.12) id BAA01928; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 01:05:04 +0100 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 01:05:00 +0100 (MET) From: Gerhard Heijenga To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: disconnect mode Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Does the new version of Pine (3.92) provide disconnect mode? I would be happy if Pine would do that, because I would present PINE-IMAP connection betwen my laptop (win95) and the windows NT PC at the CEBIT in Hannover. Is there any other mail client which could be used in disconnect mode with an imap-server? TIA gerhard P.S: I have just installed the Imap-server from washington at my windows NT machine. It looks good ... ___________________________________________________________________________________ Gerhard Heijenga eMail: heijenga@teco.uni-karlsruhe.de Veilchenstr. 9 76131 Karlsruhe Tel./Fax: 0721-617906 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 13 18:20:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17647; Sat, 13 Jan 96 18:20:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19587; Sat, 13 Jan 96 18:16:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivams.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19569; Sat, 13 Jan 96 18:15:55 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17562; Sat, 13 Jan 96 18:15:49 -0800 Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 18:15:49 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Gerhard Heijenga Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, imap@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: disconnect mode In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Gerhard, Alas, offline and disconnected support will not make it into the "almost ready" 3.92 version, but both are definitely planned for later this year. Siren mail and Sun's Roam client both support disconnected operation; however, the Siren client doesn't use IMAP4 UIDs yet, and Roam only runs on Solaris. I'm told that a Windows version of Roam and IMAP4-compatible Siren are both coming... I think there may be one more IMAP client with disconnected support, but it has slipped my mind. I've CC'd the IMAP list in hopes others will speak up. -teg On Sun, 14 Jan 1996, Gerhard Heijenga wrote: > Does the new version of Pine (3.92) provide disconnect mode? > I would be happy if Pine would do that, because I would present PINE-IMAP > connection betwen my laptop (win95) and the windows NT PC at the CEBIT > in Hannover. > > Is there any other mail client which could be used in disconnect mode > with an imap-server? > > TIA > gerhard > > P.S: I have just installed the Imap-server from washington at my windows > NT machine. It looks good ... > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > Gerhard Heijenga eMail: heijenga@teco.uni-karlsruhe.de > Veilchenstr. 9 > 76131 Karlsruhe > Tel./Fax: 0721-617906 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 13 23:58:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23646; Sat, 13 Jan 96 23:58:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26147; Sat, 13 Jan 96 23:54:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26141; Sat, 13 Jan 96 23:54:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbNGA-0001oO-00; Sat, 13 Jan 1996 23:53:50 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: HELP: Compiling Pine on LINUX ?! Error ?! Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 22:37:15 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4d8n7g$7vn@zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4d8n7g$7vn@zeus.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de> Status: O X-Status: Try this patch: in pine3.91/imap/ANSI/c-client/os_lnx.c, change a line which reads: #include to be: #define iovec blurdybloop #include #undef iovec Many versions of Linux have the wrong definition of struct iovec in , so c-client defines it with the right definition. In some other versions of Linux, defines struct iovec, and for some reason is included by . Linux is not for the faint-hearted. There are many different variants of Linux floating around, and it can be difficult to make source files that compile correctly on every variant. We make Pine compile correctly on the variant that runs on our Linux boxes. We do distribute pre-built binaries for Linux, so if you have trouble in the future you may wish to use our pre-built binary instead of dealing with sources. On 13 Jan 1996, Martin Opitz wrote: > > Hi > > I use Linux & Kernel 1.3.33. I wanted to compile pine 3.91 on this > system. I make a > > build clean > build lnx > > Then it goes on but makes the following: (see below) > (Something with this mysterious "c-client") > > Could anyone help me. I would like to use pine. > > Many Thanks ! > Martin > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > make args are "CC=cc" > > Making c-client library, mtest and imapd > make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=lnx > make[1]: Entering directory `/tmp/pine3.91/imap' > echo lnx > OSTYPE > rm -rf systype > ln -s ANSI systype > cd ANSI/c-client; make lnx > make[2]: Entering directory `/tmp/pine3.91/imap/ANSI/c-client' > make mtest OS=lnx EXTRADRIVERS="" \ > STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ > RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh CFLAGS="-g -O " > make[3]: Entering directory `/tmp/pine3.91/imap/ANSI/c-client' > ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy > rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h > > : > : > > cc -g -O -c misc.c -o misc.o > cc -g -O -DSTDPROTO=bezerkproto \ > -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bin/rsh\" \ > -c os_lnx.c > In file included from /usr/include/linux/socket.h:6, > from /usr/include/sys/socket.h:5, > from os_lnx.c:42: > /usr/include/linux/uio.h:18: redefinition of `struct iovec' > env_unix.c: In function `env_init': > In file included from os_lnx.c:57: > env_unix.c:206: warning: passing arg 1 of `cpystr' discards `const' from pointer target type > tcp_unix.c: In function `tcp_open': > In file included from os_lnx.c:58: > tcp_unix.c:162: warning: passing arg 1 of `cpystr' discards `const' from pointer target type > tcp_unix.c: In function `tcp_aopen': > tcp_unix.c:225: warning: passing arg 1 of `cpystr' discards `const' from pointer target type > make[3]: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 > make[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/pine3.91/imap/ANSI/c-client' > make[2]: *** [lnx] Error 2 > make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/pine3.91/imap/ANSI/c-client' > make[1]: *** [build] Error 2 > make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/pine3.91/imap' > make: *** [lnx] Error 2 > > : > : > > Making Pine. > > : > : > > make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/pine3.91/pine/osdep' > rm -f os.c > ln -s osdep/os-lnx.c os.c > cc -DLNX -DSYSTYPE=\"LNX\" -DDEBUG -c os.c -o os.o > os.c: In function `canonical_name': > os.c:894: warning: return discards `const' from pointer target type > make: *** No rule to make target `../c-client/c-client.a', needed by `pine'. Stop. > > Links to executables are in bin directory: > size: bin/pine: No such file or directory > size: bin/mtest: No such file or directory > size: bin/imapd: No such file or directory > text data bss dec hex filename > 112340 19944 1444 133728 20a60 bin/pico > Done > -- > _____________________________________________________________ /--i--\ . __ > | Martin Opitz - Internet: opitz@informatik.uni-frankfurt.de ''''||\___/| | > | University of Frankfurt am Main, Germany (computer science) ||o - o| | > | "As to Gina winning her gamble... | /---\ \ | > | that's a secret between her and me." Fio, "Porco Rosso" E/^ ^ ^\W | > `---------------------------------------------------------------- \m___m/ -' > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 00:46:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24533; Sun, 14 Jan 96 00:46:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26664; Sun, 14 Jan 96 00:42:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26656; Sun, 14 Jan 96 00:42:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbO0R-0002Nm-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 00:41:39 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stephen_rasku@mindlink.net (Stephen Rasku) Subject: Re: Killfiles in mail Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 23:34:00 -0800 Message-Id: <30f8b1e7.2665675@news> References: <49qtsg$8mf@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> <4c0i4j$qi9@news.orst.edu> <4d1g5q$6eo@newsgate.dircon.co.uk> <4d3flg$ep4@dodgson.math.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: tsalagi@netcom.com wrote: >A very good point, since the person asking the question was posting with >Free Agent, which has no killfile ability (the commercial release, Agent, >will, however. Free Agent is the free version of Agent). > >Netscape (aka Mozilla) doesn't have killfile ability, either (also, neither >one have the ability to cancel your own posts, AFAIK). Agent has the ability to cancel your own posts. I don't know if Free Agent does though. ...Stephen [Save Bandwidth. Ban .sig Lines] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 01:14:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25123; Sun, 14 Jan 96 01:14:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27001; Sun, 14 Jan 96 01:11:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26995; Sun, 14 Jan 96 01:11:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbOTJ-0002jA-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 01:11:29 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: INBOX folder construction, impact on existing mail.txt and mbox Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 10:54:33 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4d73d0$ks6@ornette.uchicago.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4d73d0$ks6@ornette.uchicago.edu> Status: O X-Status: Chris, just a few comments from your message. Other people will undoubtably answer other points: On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, Chris Koenigsberg wrote: > I just did some experiments regarding Pine's algorithm for > construction of the "INBOX" folder, to report for a meeting on Monday. Actually, this is c-client's algorithm, not Pine's, and kicks in only if you do not specify an override with Pine's inbox-path variable. > 2. If you have an existing ~/mbox file, Pine will prefer to use that, > instead of mail.txt, as the place where it appends truly new > /var/spool/mail/$USER messages, before displaying the whole bunch as > your INBOX. This only happens if c-client is built with the mbox driver enabled. By default, it is not enabled in the imap-3.5 toolkit used in Pine 3.91 or in the imap-3.6 toolkit used in Pine 3.92. It is enabled in imap-4, but we haven't decided whether that will go into Pine or not. The enabling is done by the setting of the EXTRADRIVERS variable in the c-client Makefile. > We're also considering setting > inbox-path=/var/spool/mail/$USER This is usually the preferred technique to get the behavior that you say you want. > We had been assuming that we would have to do a massive "conversion" > of all these existing legacy "mtxt" format ~/mail.txt files, into > "mbox" format instead, to eliminate the corruption problem. If you do decide to convert, the mbxcvt tool in the imap-utils toolkit may be very useful for you. > Now I have recently decided to try and trust the Pine/c-client team, > that they have fixed many "mtxt" bugs since the days of old MM > c-client, and NOT convert the file formats after all..... wise or > foolish? (we'll find out :-) Well, speaking as a highly biased observer, I would say that this is the path of wisdom... ;-) > A major question for us will be whether Pine's handling of "mtxt" > format (in ~/mail.txt as part of INBOX, and/or an "imported" folder > moved into the mail subdirectory) is more robust than MM's. Undeniably. But there is an important caveat: > One concern is that the "corrupt" mtxt files may come during NFS > outages, if people run the mail program (MM or Pine) on a host other > than the one where their home directory is actually physically > located. And here's the caveat: Don't even think of using the mtxt (a.k.a. tenex) format over NFS with c-client (Pine, imapd, etc)!! The problem here is that Pine uses update mode (O_RDWR) random access I/O, based on the presumption that the buffer and inode caches reflect what is actually on the disk. This is very fast; however, NFS violates most of the underlying assumptions. There is no guarantee of synchronization of the kernel buffer caches between different machines when an update happens, and worse the inode cache can get out of synchronization with the buffer cache on the same machine!!! Even worse, there is *no* locking when NFS is involved, so there is no guarding of critical code when simultaneous read/write access happens. *Usually*, c-client will detect that something is hosed, and decline to proceed any further; there haven't been too many clobberage incidents. But, "verbum sat sapenti", a word to the wise is sufficient... My advice; if you use tenex format, use it on a real filesystem that follows the documented Unix semantics (certain operations documented to be atomic are, certain operations documented to update the disk do, certain operations documented to semaphore do) and not an imitation filesystem such as NFS that simulates some of the semantics and throws up its hands on others. This means that if remote access is desired to tenex files, you should use IMAP. If you must use NFS, you're better off with the Unix mbox format. You lose some safeguarding with mbox as well (and it's slower to boot), but you still have a basic locking semaphore in place. Also, the mbox code doesn't keep the file open except when doing actual operations, which permits the crufty NFS kernel to get the buffer and inode caches back into synchronization. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 01:32:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25755; Sun, 14 Jan 96 01:32:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27157; Sun, 14 Jan 96 01:29:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27151; Sun, 14 Jan 96 01:29:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbOk1-0002qG-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 01:28:45 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afabbro@stimpy.us.itd.umich.edu (Andrew Philip Fabbro) Subject: Random Signatures in Pine Date: 12 Jan 1996 21:48:37 GMT Message-Id: <4d6kvl$4sp@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: ==================================== Random Signatures in Pine (for Unix) ==================================== ----------- Quick Intro ----------- Pine has a nifty little kludge that allows it to call an external editor (CTRL-_ -- control-underscore). In actuality, it can call any external program, which allows you to do Many Cool Things. Examples: a script that strip headers for forwarding mail, a script that strips off excess >'s, or a script that does random signatures. Of course, if you want all three, you can have a script that gives you a menu allowing you to choose which function you want. (Note that Pine also has another kludge, the | command, which allows you to pipe messages into any external program -- exploring those possibilities is left as an exercise for the reader). So...you want random signatures. Easy enough. Enclosed is a script that does it. ------------ Requirements ------------ Obviously, if you're using the CTRL-_ command to actually use an alternate editor, you can't use it to append random sigs. (But then, most alternate editors allow you to call external programs from within them anyway). It's a perl script, so if your system doesn't have perl, it won't work. To find out if you have perl, type "perl -v" without the quotes at the Unix prompt. If you get back a message that says "This is perl," you have perl. If you don't, you don't. ------------ Installation ------------ 1. Make a directory in your home directory where you will store your signatures: cd mkdir signatures "signatures" is the default. If you use something else, edit the second line of the script (that line that starts with $SIGS_DIR=) to whatever name you're calling your directory. For example, if you were calling your signatures directory "siggies", then that line of the script would read $SIGS_DIR="$ENV{HOME}/siggies"; 2. Edit this file, removing everything up to (but not including) the #!/usr/bin/perl line (#!/usr/bin/perl should be the first line in the file). Save the edited file in your home directory and call it "randsig". 3. While at the Unix prompt, give this command: chmod 700 randsig 4. Now fire up Pine. At the main menu, type S (for Setup) and then C (for Config). You'll see the Pine config menu. Look for these two lines: [X] enable-alternate-editor-cmd [ ] enable-alternate-editor-implicitly If you don't have Xs in the right place, use the arrow keys to move to the boxes you need to change and then press ENTER to toggle the X. 5. Almost done. Now tap the space bar two or three times until you reach nearly the end of the configuration file. The line you're looking for is editor = Move the highligt bar over that line and press C (for ChangeVal). The enter "randsig" without the quotes and press return. Now press E to exit config. You're done! -------- Using It -------- Store each signature you want to use as a separate file in ~/signatures (or whatever you called it). Whatever files you store in ~/signatures are candidates for the random signature script, so only store signatures in that directory. You can have as many as you want. The file names are inconsequential. To use the script, simply compose or reply as normal, then press CTRL-_ (control-underscore) when you're done. Pine will call the script which will append a signature and put you back into the Pico editor. Then (as usual) press Control-X to send your message. ---------- The Script ---------- #!/usr/bin/perl # Edit this line to the directory where you keep your sigs $SIGS_DIR="$ENV{HOME}/signatures"; opendir (DIR,$SIGS_DIR) || die "Can't open directory $SIGS_DIR!"; @signatures=readdir(DIR); closedir(DIR); shift(@signatures); $num_sigs = @signatures; srand (time|$$); # seed with the least significant part of time $chosen_sig_number=int(rand($num_sigs))+1; $chosen_sig_name="$SIGS_DIR/@signatures[$chosen_sig_number]"; # I know, I know -- this next command is UGLY. I'm sure there's # a Perl Way of concatenating files, but I didn't feel like digging # through the Camel book to find it. system ("cat $chosen_sig_name >> $ARGV[0]"); From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 01:32:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25812; Sun, 14 Jan 96 01:32:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24386; Sun, 14 Jan 96 01:29:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24380; Sun, 14 Jan 96 01:29:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbOk2-0002qI-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 01:28:46 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barr@shrsys.hslc.org (JOHN BARR) Subject: setting forwarding address Date: 12 JAN 96 21:43:41 GMT Message-Id: <12JAN96.21434180@shrsys.hslc.org> Status: O X-Status: I'm new to Pine. In other versions of email I have used there is a way to set a default forwarding address, to automatically forward all received mail to another address. I can't find a way to do this in Pine. What did I miss? Thanks for any help. John Barr barr@hslc.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 02:33:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27115; Sun, 14 Jan 96 02:33:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28057; Sun, 14 Jan 96 02:30:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28051; Sun, 14 Jan 96 02:30:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbPhm-0003Zl-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 02:30:30 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lokehc@merlion.singnet.com.sg (Kid Eternity) Subject: Auto replying of emails? Date: 14 Jan 1996 09:26:58 GMT Message-Id: <4dai92$6m3@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Status: O X-Status: I'd like to know if there's any means to configure Pine to auto reply emails with a certain word in an email's subject line or body text; ie, an email auto responder. All help is greatly appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 06:11:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01040; Sun, 14 Jan 96 06:11:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00687; Sun, 14 Jan 96 06:06:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00681; Sun, 14 Jan 96 06:06:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbT4N-00062Q-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 06:06:03 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ckk@uchicago.edu (Chris Koenigsberg) Subject: INBOX folder construction, impact on existing mail.txt and mbox Message-Id: <4d73d0$ks6@ornette.uchicago.edu> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 1996 01:54:40 GMT Status: O X-Status: We're introducing official support for Pine at the U. of Chicago, in the beginning of February, and are working out some configuration details. If I'm forgetting anything, please let me know (post a followup here, or email me if you prefer, ckk@uchicago.edu). We are starting out with the existing /var/spool/mail/$USER mailboxes, NFS-mounted from a server, not introducing IMAP yet. (sorry I couldn't make it to the IMAP Consortium meeting in Seattle this past week, I would have loved to have gone, maybe next time...) I just did some experiments regarding Pine's algorithm for construction of the "INBOX" folder, to report for a meeting on Monday. 1. If you have an existing "mtxt" format ~/mail.txt file, Pine wants to use that as part of the INBOX folder, i.e. it will slurp new mail out of /var/spool/mail/$USER, append it to mail.txt, and display the entire contents of mail.txt as your INBOX. 2. If you have an existing ~/mbox file, Pine will prefer to use that, instead of mail.txt, as the place where it appends truly new /var/spool/mail/$USER messages, before displaying the whole bunch as your INBOX. 3. If you have neither an "mtxt" mail.txt file, nor an mbox file, Pine will just use the contents of /var/spool/mail/$USER as its INBOX. These considerations are important to people who have existing ~/mail.txt files (from MM) and/or existing mbox files (from Berkeley Mail etc.), perhaps with large numbers of old messages there. If they try Pine, it seems that Pine is going to show them all their many old messages, as being new and unread. (I could say, that's what they get for leaving all their old messages in one monolithic mail file :-) but I've got to try and ease their transitions. We want to minimize the number of site-specific configuration changes. But we are interested in setting the system-wide Pine fixed config file combination: read-message-folders=saved-messages feature-list=auto-move-read-msgs to sweep mail, after it's read, OUT of the INBOX folder (i.e. out of the files /var/spool/mail/$USER and ~mail.txt and/or ~mbox). We're also considering setting inbox-path=/var/spool/mail/$USER which would tell Pine to ignore the mail.txt and mbox files. That is, this will force Pine's INBOX folder construction to use ONLY the /var/spool/mail file, NOT the existing legacy ~/mail.txt or ~/mbox files. If we do set this inbox-path, and a user does want to "import" their existing mail.txt or mbox file into Pine, they can simply move the whole file, into their mail subdirectory, and Pine will then see it as a folder. Currently many people still use "MM" with their "mtxt" format ~/mail.txt files, and we have bad problems with "corrupted" mail.txt files, due to bugs in old MM where it doesn't quite finish writing the file out before dying, and the new invocation can't read it. The "mtxt" format is inherently more delicate than the "mbox" format, since it has the binary flags which include one for the message length.... We had been assuming that we would have to do a massive "conversion" of all these existing legacy "mtxt" format ~/mail.txt files, into "mbox" format instead, to eliminate the corruption problem. Now I have recently decided to try and trust the Pine/c-client team, that they have fixed many "mtxt" bugs since the days of old MM c-client, and NOT convert the file formats after all..... wise or foolish? (we'll find out :-) A major question for us will be whether Pine's handling of "mtxt" format (in ~/mail.txt as part of INBOX, and/or an "imported" folder moved into the mail subdirectory) is more robust than MM's. I am hoping/betting that Pine will not "corrupt" mtxt files the way MM frequently does. But if we do still get a lot of corrupt mtxt files from Pine, we'll have to think about converting them. One concern is that the "corrupt" mtxt files may come during NFS outages, if people run the mail program (MM or Pine) on a host other than the one where their home directory is actually physically located. If this is the case, then even Pine might not be able to prevent the mtxt file corruption problems? I haven't been able to test this reliably yet though. (we have made an effort to urge people to login & run their MM on the same host where their home directory lives, rather than go across NFS, and we will continue to do so with Pine) Am I forgetting anything? :-) Chris Koenigsberg ckk@uchicago.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 06:43:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01398; Sun, 14 Jan 96 06:43:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28111; Sun, 14 Jan 96 06:40:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28099; Sun, 14 Jan 96 06:40:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbTaL-0006SM-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 06:39:05 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Problem with sorting of folders. Date: 11 Jan 1996 06:21:38 GMT Message-Id: <4d2a9i$6vc@guava.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Jason Warren (jason@bozo.kgn.ibm.com) wrote: : On 30 Dec 1995, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: : > I don't quite understand rules for sorting of folders. I currently have : > set sorting rule to OrderedSubject, and just now there are two messages : > in my folder (actually they are on Pine-info list so everybody should : > have them). I don't think you mean 'sorting of folders' I think you mean 'sorting of messages within the folders' ??? : > One message is original and other a reply. Original dated 30 Dec 1995 : > 06:11 GMT (I forgot the seconds) and reply is dates 30 Dec 1995 06:16 GMT. : > The problem is, reply is sorted BEFORE original message. It seems to be : > incorrect twice - reply should NOT come before question and Dates order : > is clearly wrong. : > If I set sort order to Date, then they are sorted correctly! You just answered your own question !!! : > Any comment? (I have Pine for Windows 3.91) Doesna matter sort by date will sort by date and then Jason wrote ... : This also happens on the AIX version. I've reported this a few times with : no responses. I wondered if it was specific to the AIX version. Apparently : it is not. : Jason See above ... doesn't matter how you're connected (not gonna comment on the pine for windows reference) ... sort by date will sort by date SENT not by date recieved, or worse yet, by the date you moved it into another folder, other options will not ... with pine 3.90 or greater, set your (s)etup (c)onfig to sort by date, and guess what it will do ??? Yup, it will sort it by (sent) date. Hope this helps. BYE. PS once you set your default under (s)etup (c)onfig to 'sort by date', you still have the other ($)ort options available with the $ key, but the default will be a date (sent) sort. Hope that makes sense ! /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 06:45:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01447; Sun, 14 Jan 96 06:45:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00988; Sun, 14 Jan 96 06:39:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00981; Sun, 14 Jan 96 06:39:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbTZM-0006SD-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 06:38:04 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phoenix@faerealm.roc.servtech.com (Leslie M. Barstow III) Subject: restricted text editor, anyone? Date: 13 Jan 1996 19:15:50 GMT Message-Id: <4d90d6$2kq@faerealm.roc.servtech.com> Status: O X-Status: I am looking for a text editor which is easy to use and can be put into a restricted mode which disallows all shell access, and restricts file saving and reading. The restricted mode of PICO which is available through PINE is good, but I can't seem to convince PICO to enter this mode without PINE. I have tried setting gmode |= MDSCUR in a couple of spots within the source, but I still get a non-restricted version... A similar feature in a newsreader would be cool, too, but is not necessary. -- Leslie M. Barstow III | "How may I be honest with you today" phoenix@faerealm.roc.servtech.com | -Tuvoc,ST:Voyager Faerealm: the future of PBM gaming| Do not reply to FastCash or MakeMoneyFast PGP key available upon request | schemes on the net. They are scams! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 07:18:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01937; Sun, 14 Jan 96 07:18:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01336; Sun, 14 Jan 96 07:14:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01330; Sun, 14 Jan 96 07:14:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbU7l-0006se-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 07:13:38 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: restricted text editor, anyone? Date: 14 Jan 96 14:30:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <4d90d6$2kq@faerealm.roc.servtech.com> Status: O X-Status: phoenix@faerealm.roc.servtech.com (Leslie M. Barstow III) writes: >I am looking for a text editor which is easy to use and can be put into a >restricted mode which disallows all shell access, and restricts file saving >and reading. >The restricted mode of PICO which is available through PINE is good, but >I can't seem to convince PICO to enter this mode without PINE. I have >tried setting gmode |= MDSCUR in a couple of spots within the source, but I >still get a non-restricted version... >A similar feature in a newsreader would be cool, too, but is not necessary. I have set up a system with a menu under rsh, in which the pico user can save files, but only in the current directory. Wouldn't that do what you want? >-- >Leslie M. Barstow III | "How may I be honest with you today" >phoenix@faerealm.roc.servtech.com | -Tuvoc,ST:Voyager >Faerealm: the future of PBM gaming| Do not reply to FastCash or MakeMoneyFast >PGP key available upon request | schemes on the net. They are scams! -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Web admin: chimera,nn,tin,jove,kermit - free's best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 11:56:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06144; Sun, 14 Jan 96 11:56:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04295; Sun, 14 Jan 96 11:51:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04289; Sun, 14 Jan 96 11:51:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbYRh-0003YN-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 11:50:29 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@thunder.ocis.temple.edu (The Shriminator) Subject: Mail/Csh script/resend mail Date: 13 Jan 1996 14:59:41 GMT Message-Id: <4d8hct$fem@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: I would appreciate deeply if anyone of you know if there is such C-shell script which will hold off all the incoming mail from a certain "From:" address sent to a user between 10:00 PM to 7:30 AM (next day) and resend them back to the same user next day at 7:31 AM. Bascically here's the flow: If From="john.doe@pizza.com" and $TIME is between 10:00 PM and 7:30 AM, mv ~/mail/pending/mail.1 ~/mail/pending/mail.1+1 Save newmail to ~/mail/pending/mail.1 endif Next I'll have another script which runs in cron, and looks for the existence of the ~/mail/pending/mail.* and resends them back to the $USER one by one till each of 'em is delivered when $TIME = 7:31 AM Any pointers, sugegstions are most welcome and maybe sent to shrim@thunder.temple.edu Many Many Thanks. -- Shrim | Shrim@thunder.temple.edu | Mac*Chat ListOwner From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 16:01:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10775; Sun, 14 Jan 96 16:01:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07278; Sun, 14 Jan 96 15:57:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07272; Sun, 14 Jan 96 15:57:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbcIE-0004gX-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 15:56:58 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steevess@saturn.net (Scott Steeves) Subject: "Received abort signal" on large messages Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 22:26:00 GMT Message-Id: <4dbvus$6um@titan.saturn.net> Status: O X-Status: I'm running pine 3.91 under Linux. I connect to my ISP using a PPP connection over a 28.8 line. Whenever someone sends me a large message, such as an attached file, pine kicks out with "received abort signal." Does anyone have any ideas why this might be happening? Might it have something to do with a sub-optimal MTU setting? Any info would be greatly appreciated. Scott From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 16:53:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11866; Sun, 14 Jan 96 16:53:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07963; Sun, 14 Jan 96 16:49:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07957; Sun, 14 Jan 96 16:49:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbd6H-0006le-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 16:48:41 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Attachment Binaries Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 18:34:02 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, Paul Johnson wrote: > Does anyone know if it is possible to attach a binary using Pine so that > it can be sent to someone at AOL? When I've tried, I get an error > message that the message is too long. Can pine be old to break it up? Pine as such probably cannot (although I won't swear to it). One possible circumvention is to use UUENCODE, presuming your recipient has the corresponding UUDECODE. Some versions of UUENCODE will break a file into segments of no more than a specified size. You could email each segment as an included file (not as an attachment). The recipient would then extract and concatenate all the segments in order and UUDECODE it. A bit of a kludge, I admit, but it should work. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 17:10:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12339; Sun, 14 Jan 96 17:10:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08177; Sun, 14 Jan 96 17:05:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08171; Sun, 14 Jan 96 17:05:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbdM2-00077L-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 17:04:58 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Uploading Text Files Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 18:46:16 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote: : [...] : How can I upload a text file from my computer into Pine? More : specifically, how can I upload a file into a message I want to send? : I've tried, while in composing mode, to upload using my communications Normally, you do not upload while you are composing in Pine. Uploading is a separate operation distinct from Pine. You did not say so, but apparently you are using some variant of Unix. In that case, you start the upload process from a shell prompt, not from within Pine. Exactly what you do will depend on what softare is available on your system. For example, in my case I enter rz -a or rz -b depending on whether I am uploading an ASCII or binary file. (Actually I use a tiny shell script in order to get the version of rz on my system which supports Zmodem). Then I start ProComm Plus' upload with the keypad PgUp key. Select the protocol (Xmodem or whatever) and supply the path and filename on your PC when prompted. Things should take off, and you should get the file uploaded into your Unix current directory. THEN you start composing in Pine and include the file with Ctrl-R. : software (which is PROCOMM-PLUS), using XMODEM, YMODEM and ASCII options. : None have worked. (My software doesn't have ZMODEM, so please don't tell : me that's what I need.) ProComm Plus (at least version 2) supports Zmodem, which is better than the other protocols in some ways. However, the software on your Unix host also has to support it. As I say, my host has two versions of rz, only one of which supports Zmodem. : I realize this may not be a PINE question but rather a UNIX question, [...] Yes, it is a Unix question, not a Pine question as such. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 17:10:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12372; Sun, 14 Jan 96 17:10:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05627; Sun, 14 Jan 96 17:07:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05621; Sun, 14 Jan 96 17:07:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbdOC-0007BV-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 17:07:12 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Auto replying of emails? Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 18:47:56 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4dai92$6m3@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dai92$6m3@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Status: O X-Status: On 14 Jan 1996, Kid Eternity wrote: : I'd like to know if there's any means to configure Pine to auto reply : emails with a certain word in an email's subject line or body text; ie, : an email auto responder. No. Pine will not do this. You have to use a mechanism which gets hold of the mail _before_ Pine does. A widely used tool for Unix systems is procmail. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 19:36:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15000; Sun, 14 Jan 96 19:36:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09788; Sun, 14 Jan 96 19:32:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09782; Sun, 14 Jan 96 19:32:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbfdS-00027U-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 19:31:06 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Neal J. Gieselman" Subject: Server to client transfer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 05:00:18 GMT Status: O X-Status: My Inet provider uses pine as their e-mail handler. I would like to configure my UnixWare 2.0 WS to do an auto dialin and retrieve any e-mail to my local WS. Does anyone have any hints on how I might do this? I have been reading the WWW pine page and the only thing I see that is close to this is the compliance to IMAP. Thanks for any help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 14 21:29:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16512; Sun, 14 Jan 96 21:29:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11056; Sun, 14 Jan 96 21:24:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11050; Sun, 14 Jan 96 21:24:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbhPC-00070b-00; Sun, 14 Jan 1996 21:24:30 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Nugent Subject: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 21:47:50 GMT Status: O X-Status: The long-awaited OS/2 port of the Pine mail/news reader version 3.91 has been uploaded to hobbes.nmsu.edu in /incoming as pine391.zip. -- README.OS2 -- This is a port of the Pine 3.91 mail user agent to OS/2 32-bit compiled with the emx 0.09b development system, gcc 2.7.2. This includes only the mail UA client and the pico editor, no imapd. Notes on the OS/2 version of Pine: . This is a text mode only version of Pine. . Like the PC & Windows versions, this version of Pine is intended to be run primarily as a network client. . The following client mailstream drivers are supported by Pine-OS2: imap,nntp,pop3,bezrk,tenex,dawz,dummy This is the same as PC-Pine, with the addition of pop3. To enable pop3 over a network link, use the folder specification: {site.domain/pop3}INBOX The pop3 driver has not been extensively tested, however. . The "alternate editor" command is active in this version via the ^_ key. . The spell checker is enabled, by default calling gnu ispell. Internal spell checking facilities are disabled in Pine, so the spell checker itself must provide the interface (as is the case with ispell). The "SPELL" environment variable can specify an alternative spell checking program. . All help is included within the executable itself. . The mouse is enabled and working under OS/2 to the same extent as that available under Windows/MSDOS; ie. it works for some functions but does not include anything very advanced. . Unlike the PC versions of Pine, the addressbook functions work. . Attempts have been made to ensure that all files produced and used by Pine conform to 8.3 mapping of the FAT filesystem. It has not, however, been tested on FAT. Needless to say, the HPFS filesystem is fully supported. . The pipe command '|' is enabled and functional. Avoid piping mail to any interactive command, however - it will not work. . Printing has not been tested. For expedience, the UNIX model of piping output to a command has been used. You may like to use the OS/2 port of the BSD lpr command or similar, or pipe to any other command according to preference. . Pine-OS2 maps itself to the current display mode, adapting to the current screen size to suit. . Pine-OS2 provides 16 foreground colours and 8 background colors to select from (rather than 8 and 8 with PC-Pine). . This version of pine is fully UNIX shell aware, and uses the SHELL environment variable in preference to COMSPEC when spawning other process. This was tested with the csh and ksh ports. . Debugging is not enabled. INSTALLATION Requirements: OS/2 2.x with TCPIP 2.0 or later installed (IBM's IAK is fine). emx.dll version 0.09b or later placed somewhere in the LIBPATH. Set the HOME environment variable in your CONFIG.SYS to a directory you wish to use for a work area. Reboot. Move Pine.exe (and optionally Pico.exe) to any directory in the system PATH. Set the TMP and/or TEMP directory to point to a directory to be used for temporary files. NOTE: This directory must exist prior running pine or bad things may result. You may use the PINERC environment variable to point to an alternative configuration file if necessary. Run Pine. Follow the directions presented, and before doing anything else you should select S)etup C)onfigure and run through all configuration items and preferences. You may have to exit and restart to access folders. Read the documentation for further information. Note the syntax of setting up network folders, folder collections and so on: Network folder: {site.domain}path News collection: News *{site.domain}[] If you specify 'INBOX' as path, this is magic for the inbound mailbox on the specified server. Note that over a 14.4K link I've had more luck with using imap to read news than nntp from a performance point of view. NNTP seems very slow - imap works better. To set this up: NNTP-Server: site.domain News Collection: News *{site.domain/imap}[] imapd needs to be running on the news server, and you need to have an account on that machine, of course, otherwise nntp must be used. Irrespective of which method you use to read mail, nntp is still used for posting, hence the requirement for the nntp server name. Enjoy! Port by David Nugent (davidn@unique.blaze.net.au) David Nugent, davidn@unique.blaze.net.au, 3:632/348@fidonet Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia +61-3-9791-9547 Bbs/Fax +61-3-9792-3507 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 00:42:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20291; Mon, 15 Jan 96 00:42:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13581; Mon, 15 Jan 96 00:34:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13575; Mon, 15 Jan 96 00:34:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbkMO-000356-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 00:33:48 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se (Johan Holmberg) Subject: Re: RFC1342 (printing 8-bit chars in the Subject) Date: 15 Jan 1996 08:36:18 +0100 Message-Id: <63ka2t6hal.fsf@promotor.telia.se> References: In-Reply-To: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis's message of Fri, 12 Jan 1996 14:29:55 Status: O X-Status: Dimakopoulos Panagiotis writes: > > Does anybody know if a patch has been released for pine to comply > with the RFC1342 ? This RFC describes an extension to the message > format defined in RFC 1341 (MIME) to allow the representation of > character sets other than ASCII in RFC 822 message headers. > I have a patch that does this. From the Release Notes: ============================================================ = Changes in 3.91jh803. = = 3.91jh803 is a patched version of 3.91 that can handle encoding/decoding of = header fields according to RFC1522. Some other changes has also been = done. The differences from 3.91 are: = = 802: = - Encode a lonely '.' on a line. Recommended by RFC1521. = = 801: = - handle application/pdf when sending PDF-attachments. = - better support for 8-bit characters in folder names and in = address book = - view application/pgp (without interpreting the PGP-stuff) = = Earlier patches (from 3.91 to patch 800): = - RFC1522 suppport (added by Lars Engebretsen ) = - should now work (I hope) for all character sets in the = ISO-LATIN family. = - some memory handling bugs fixed by using Purify on PINE. = (Not totally "clean", but better than before). = - (small) improvements in the makefiles and build-script. One reason = was to make it easier to use CVS on the code. = - Fix to avoid showing text message from some MAC MUA's as attachments. = = The RFC1522 suppport is used in the following way: = = - when reading mail it is automatically used = - when sending mail you have a choice when sending the mail. = See the help (Ctrl-G) in the compose screen. Read about the = SEND command (Ctrl-x). = = This patch was created by Johan Holmberg . = ============================================================ I have used this patch a lot on SunOS and IRIX, and beleive it works on Solaris-2 and HPUX too. Shouldn't be any problems for other platforms, but I just haven't modified the Makefiles for other platforms. But, since 3.92 isn't far away, I'll probably not do any further work on it. Anyway, if you want to try my patch, send me an email and I'll send you the patch. /johan holmberg -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Johan Holmberg Email: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se Telia Promotor AB Phone: +46 18 18 94 55 Box 1218 Mobile: +46 70 528 94 55 751 42 Uppsala, SWEDEN Fax: +46 18 18 94 99 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 01:24:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21376; Mon, 15 Jan 96 01:24:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11607; Mon, 15 Jan 96 01:13:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11601; Mon, 15 Jan 96 01:13:52 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 15 Jan 1996 09:09:06 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA09026; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 09:09:51 GMT Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 09:09:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: JOHN BARR Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: setting forwarding address In-Reply-To: <12JAN96.21434180@shrsys.hslc.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The function you are after is nothing to do with Pine (or any other mail reader, for that matter). These are programs for reading mail *after* it has been delivered into your mailbox folder. What you need to be looking at is the delivery mechanism itself, and in particular how to persuade it to redirect the arriving mail. This is *not* Pine but, usually, a system program called "sendmail". Try looking through the man page for sendmail for the section about ".forward" files. These are what you need to use in order to redirect arriving mail. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 12 Jan 1996, JOHN BARR wrote: > I'm new to Pine. In other versions of email I have used there is > a way to set a default forwarding address, to automatically forward > all received mail to another address. > > I can't find a way to do this in Pine. > > What did I miss? > > Thanks for any help. > > John Barr > barr@hslc.org > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 03:27:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24017; Mon, 15 Jan 96 03:27:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13138; Mon, 15 Jan 96 03:20:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13132; Mon, 15 Jan 96 03:20:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbmwz-0005K4-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 03:19:45 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 5x9@dec5102.aarhues.dk (Martin Kofoed) Subject: Pine and mailing lists Date: 15 Jan 1996 09:33:26 GMT Message-Id: <4dd716$5qr@esanews.denet.dk> Status: O X-Status: Hi! Is there any way you can specify Pine to automatically move any post from a specific user (in this case the address of the mailing list) from your Inbox to an area created by yourself? One more question about Pine: How can you (on user level) make Pine able to read/write letters using the MIME format? Can it only be done during installation? Oh, and one last thing: How do you make Pine throw in your .signature in the *bottom* of quote-replied messages instead of in the *top*? If you have the answers for one or more of the above, please write me. Thanks. -- ==================================================== -[Martin Kofoed]- -[5x9@aabc.dk]- -[2:235/20.2]- ==================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 09:15:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02141; Mon, 15 Jan 96 09:15:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17536; Mon, 15 Jan 96 09:00:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17530; Mon, 15 Jan 96 09:00:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbsGM-0003z4-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 09:00:06 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chen5@fas.harvard.edu (Christian Chen) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: 15 Jan 1996 15:08:31 GMT Message-Id: <4ddqlf$j4e@decaxp.harvard.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: David Nugent (davidn@sdev.blaze.net.au) wrote: : The long-awaited OS/2 port of the Pine mail/news reader version 3.91 has : been uploaded to hobbes.nmsu.edu in /incoming as pine391.zip. It's been moved to the /new directory already, and probably will be moved to the os2/network/tcpip directory soon. Thank you very very much for doing this port! It runs faster than the windows version, too! Christian Chen : -- README.OS2 -- : This is a port of the Pine 3.91 mail user agent to OS/2 32-bit : compiled with the emx 0.09b development system, gcc 2.7.2. This : includes only the mail UA client and the pico editor, no imapd. : Notes on the OS/2 version of Pine: : . This is a text mode only version of Pine. : . Like the PC & Windows versions, this version of Pine is intended : to be run primarily as a network client. : . The following client mailstream drivers are supported by Pine-OS2: : imap,nntp,pop3,bezrk,tenex,dawz,dummy : This is the same as PC-Pine, with the addition of pop3. : To enable pop3 over a network link, use the folder : specification: : {site.domain/pop3}INBOX : The pop3 driver has not been extensively tested, however. : . The "alternate editor" command is active in this version via : the ^_ key. : . The spell checker is enabled, by default calling gnu ispell. : Internal spell checking facilities are disabled in Pine, so : the spell checker itself must provide the interface (as is : the case with ispell). The "SPELL" environment variable : can specify an alternative spell checking program. : . All help is included within the executable itself. : . The mouse is enabled and working under OS/2 to the same : extent as that available under Windows/MSDOS; ie. it works : for some functions but does not include anything very advanced. : . Unlike the PC versions of Pine, the addressbook functions work. : . Attempts have been made to ensure that all files produced and : used by Pine conform to 8.3 mapping of the FAT filesystem. It : has not, however, been tested on FAT. Needless to say, the HPFS : filesystem is fully supported. : . The pipe command '|' is enabled and functional. Avoid piping : mail to any interactive command, however - it will not work. : . Printing has not been tested. For expedience, the UNIX model of : piping output to a command has been used. You may like to use : the OS/2 port of the BSD lpr command or similar, or pipe to any : other command according to preference. : . Pine-OS2 maps itself to the current display mode, adapting to : the current screen size to suit. : . Pine-OS2 provides 16 foreground colours and 8 background colors : to select from (rather than 8 and 8 with PC-Pine). : . This version of pine is fully UNIX shell aware, and uses the : SHELL environment variable in preference to COMSPEC when spawning : other process. This was tested with the csh and ksh ports. : . Debugging is not enabled. : INSTALLATION : Requirements: OS/2 2.x with TCPIP 2.0 or later installed (IBM's IAK is : fine). emx.dll version 0.09b or later placed somewhere in the LIBPATH. : Set the HOME environment variable in your CONFIG.SYS to a directory you wish : to use for a work area. Reboot. Move Pine.exe (and optionally Pico.exe) to : any directory in the system PATH. Set the TMP and/or TEMP directory to point : to a directory to be used for temporary files. NOTE: This directory must : exist prior running pine or bad things may result. You may use the PINERC : environment variable to point to an alternative configuration file if : necessary. : Run Pine. Follow the directions presented, and before doing anything else : you should select S)etup C)onfigure and run through all configuration items : and preferences. You may have to exit and restart to access folders. : Read the documentation for further information. Note the syntax of setting : up network folders, folder collections and so on: : Network folder: {site.domain}path : News collection: News *{site.domain}[] : If you specify 'INBOX' as path, this is magic for the inbound mailbox on the : specified server. Note that over a 14.4K link I've had more luck with using : imap to read news than nntp from a performance point of view. NNTP seems : very slow - imap works better. To set this up: : NNTP-Server: site.domain : News Collection: News *{site.domain/imap}[] : imapd needs to be running on the news server, and you need to have an : account on that machine, of course, otherwise nntp must be used. : Irrespective of which method you use to read mail, nntp is still used for : posting, hence the requirement for the nntp server name. : Enjoy! : Port by David Nugent (davidn@unique.blaze.net.au) : David Nugent, davidn@unique.blaze.net.au, 3:632/348@fidonet : Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia : +61-3-9791-9547 Bbs/Fax +61-3-9792-3507 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 10:22:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03660; Mon, 15 Jan 96 10:22:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21389; Mon, 15 Jan 96 10:14:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from millkern.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21383; Mon, 15 Jan 96 10:14:57 -0800 Received: (from byrgb@localhost) by millkern.com (8.6.9/8.6.10) id NAA02684; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 13:14:39 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 13:14:33 -0500 (EST) From: Byrg Bonnelycke To: pine-info Subject: Comments in .forward ??? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi: 1) Are comments allowed in the .forward file ? 2) If so, what's the character denoting a comment (probably '#') ? Thanks, Byrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 10:42:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04210; Mon, 15 Jan 96 10:42:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19185; Mon, 15 Jan 96 10:34:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vm1.NoDak.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19179; Mon, 15 Jan 96 10:34:30 -0800 Received: from orca.fhcrc.org by VM1.NoDak.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 15 Jan 96 12:33:37 CST Received: by orca.fhcrc.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA27902; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 10:34:28 -0800 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 10:34:28 -0800 (PST) From: Brent Blumenstein To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes In-Reply-To: <4ddqlf$j4e@decaxp.harvard.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I would like to extend my thanks to David Nugent for doing this port. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 206 667 4623 Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center | fax: 206 667 4408 1124 Columbia Street MP-557 | e-mail: brentb@orca.fhcrc.org Seattle, WA 98104 USA | > David Nugent (davidn@sdev.blaze.net.au) wrote: > : The long-awaited OS/2 port of the Pine mail/news reader version 3.91 has > : been uploaded to hobbes.nmsu.edu in /incoming as pine391.zip. > > It's been moved to the /new directory already, and probably will be > moved to the os2/network/tcpip directory soon. > > Thank you very very much for doing this port! It runs faster than > the windows version, too! > > Christian Chen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 12:48:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07432; Mon, 15 Jan 96 12:48:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23851; Mon, 15 Jan 96 12:38:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23845; Mon, 15 Jan 96 12:38:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbvfn-0000c7-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 12:38:36 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: byrgb@millkern.com (Byrg Bonnelycke) Subject: .forward file ??? Date: 15 Jan 1996 19:28:06 GMT Message-Id: <4de9s6$lqv@news4.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Hi: Sorry! This is my second posting, since I don't know if the first one "took." Can you put comments in the .forward file ? If so, how do you do it ? Thanx, Byrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 13:25:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08609; Mon, 15 Jan 96 13:25:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22029; Mon, 15 Jan 96 13:19:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22023; Mon, 15 Jan 96 13:19:44 -0800 Received: from fozzie.secapl.com (Fozzie.secapl.com [192.131.46.3]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id PAA42434; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 15:11:52 -0600 Received: by fozzie.secapl.com id AA16872 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:21:11 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:21:09 -0500 (EST) From: Tony Iannotti To: Byrg Bonnelycke Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .forward file ??? In-Reply-To: <4de9s6$lqv@news4.digex.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 15 Jan 1996, Byrg Bonnelycke wrote: > Can you put comments in the .forward file ? Your posts are coming through. I don't know, but the filter FAQ might help: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ Since it's usually a one-liner, I don't think most people have ever needed to comment it, but if you are using it for filtering, then procmail and filter's rules files can cerr certainly have comments. (#) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 14:11:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09642; Mon, 15 Jan 96 14:11:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22824; Mon, 15 Jan 96 14:06:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22816; Mon, 15 Jan 96 14:06:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbx2x-0004v7-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 14:06:36 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: howardh@bcaa.bc.ca (Howard Hui) Subject: Update Global Address Book by multiple people Date: 15 Jan 1996 20:29:45 GMT Message-Id: <4dedfp$9hn@sulla.cyberstore.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hi, Sorry if it is a FAQ. I'm new to Pine and would like to know any ways or tools available to allow multiple users to update the global address book? Since it is a read only file. Right now only one person can update it. I'd like to see if there is any way to update it using different ids. Thanks a lot! Howard Hui Email: howardh@bcaa.bc.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 14:18:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10009; Mon, 15 Jan 96 14:18:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25481; Mon, 15 Jan 96 14:09:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25475; Mon, 15 Jan 96 14:09:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbx5n-00050g-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 14:09:31 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bercikj@musc.edu (John Bercik) Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Date: 15 Jan 1996 16:50:42 GMT Message-Id: <4de0l2$t49@nellie.musc.edu> References: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> <30F0383F.58C2@nttex.com> <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: http://www.primenet.com/~buyensj/ntwebsrv.html#Mail From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 16:14:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13212; Mon, 15 Jan 96 16:14:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24958; Mon, 15 Jan 96 16:10:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24952; Mon, 15 Jan 96 16:10:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbyyY-0007ha-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:10:10 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: WEEVEY Subject: Macros for Deleting for Forwarding Mail? Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 17:20:25 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I would like for Pine to either delete e-mail from a certain sender before I see it or for Pine to forward it back to the sender with a message that I don't want any more e-mail coming to my address. Is this possible? Eva @}---------- THE SIMMONS FACTOR --------- EVA SABRINA SIMMONS, PH.D. -------{@ WWW Personal Page: http://www.cris.com/~Weevey/index.html @}---- @}---- @}---- WATCH IT, OR IT MIGHT ATTACK!! ;) ---{@ ---{@ ---{@ ---{@ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 17:07:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14740; Mon, 15 Jan 96 17:07:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25682; Mon, 15 Jan 96 16:59:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25676; Mon, 15 Jan 96 16:59:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tbzkB-0000QL-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 16:59:23 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph Bergstein Subject: SMTP Confirm Receipt in PINE Compose Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 19:01:28 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I use PINE here at Univ. of Maryland. I checked with local system administrator who didn't know the answer to this question. Is there any way using PINE to set a flag in a message to "confirm receipt", i.e. have receiver's mail processor send a message to confirm recipient's reading or message delivery? Other email systems which I use which have SMTP gateways allow specification of this "confirm receipt" option. How do you do this in PINE? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 19:12:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17354; Mon, 15 Jan 96 19:12:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27521; Mon, 15 Jan 96 18:56:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27515; Mon, 15 Jan 96 18:56:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tc1YD-0001di-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 18:55:09 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu (Dean Pentcheff) Subject: Re: Auto replying of emails? Date: 15 Jan 1996 20:19:51 -0500 Message-Id: <4deufn$aap@tbone.biol.sc.edu> References: <4dai92$6m3@lantana.singnet.com.sg> Status: O X-Status: lokehc@merlion.singnet.com.sg (Kid Eternity) writes: >I'd like to know if there's any means to configure Pine to auto reply >emails with a certain word in an email's subject line or body text; ie, >an email auto responder. No. Pine is a mail user agent (MUA), in charge of presenting mail to you, and helping you format outgoing mail messages. Reshuffling mail automatically is the job of mail delivery agents (MDAs). One very useful program for presorting mail is called "procmail". You can run it via an entry in your ".forward" file (all of which is covered in its documentation). Using procmail you can sort incoming mail into different mailboxes, process it in arbitrary ways, and generate outgoing email responses based on incoming mail messages. Procmail can be used as the basis for simple mail sorting, on up to complete mailing list management systems (for which see the related software SmartList, available at the same site). Code for procmail can be found at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de in directory: pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 19:12:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17381; Mon, 15 Jan 96 19:12:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00500; Mon, 15 Jan 96 18:56:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00494; Mon, 15 Jan 96 18:56:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tc1Yi-0001dl-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 18:55:40 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu (Dean Pentcheff) Subject: Re: Pine and mailing lists Date: 15 Jan 1996 20:23:15 -0500 Message-Id: <4deum3$abr@tbone.biol.sc.edu> References: <4dd716$5qr@esanews.denet.dk> Status: O X-Status: 5x9@dec5102.aarhues.dk (Martin Kofoed) writes: >Is there any way you can specify Pine to automatically move any post from >a specific user (in this case the address of the mailing list) from your >Inbox to an area created by yourself? No. But there are other programs that can do this for you. See my reply to the article shortly preceeding this one ("Autoreplying to emails"). >One more question about Pine: How can you (on user level) make Pine able >to read/write letters using the MIME format? Can it only be done during >installation? As far as I know, it does this automatically anyway... Didn't know it could be set up not to. I punt this one. >Oh, and one last thing: How do you make Pine throw in your .signature in >the *bottom* of quote-replied messages instead of in the *top*? When in pine: Main/Setup/Config then set: [X] signature-at-bottom -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 20:32:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19197; Mon, 15 Jan 96 20:32:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28639; Mon, 15 Jan 96 20:13:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28633; Mon, 15 Jan 96 20:13:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tc2l6-0002VW-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 20:12:32 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: Re: Pine Crash When Replying Message-Id: <1996Jan15.110710.7430@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 15 Jan 96 11:07:10 PST References: <30f4723b.87330@205.164.176.1> In-Reply-To: <30f4723b.87330@205.164.176.1> Status: O X-Status: mpolak@exit109.com (Michael Polak) writes: >I'm running Pine 3.91 on a Data General DG-UX system. After I select >'R' to reply to a message, I'm asked if I want to include the original >text in the reply, and Pine crashes if I answer either Yes or No. I have successfully compiled Pine 3.91 on a DG AViiON machine! I don't know why the following works, it just does. Machine: dgux devel 5.4R3.10 generic AViiON mc88110 pine3.91/imap/ANSI/c-client/os_d-g.c - add a line. Shown with '+'. - This was posted by several other people. #include "log_std.c" #include "gr_waitp.c" #include "tz_sv4.c" + #include #undef utime pine3.91/pico/composer.c - Function: ArrangeHeader(). - I traced the error to this piece of the code. It would never return from this function. I couldn't see anything wrong, but I added '{' and '}' to the "while" statement because I was adding debug statements. Shown with "^^^". line 1630: while(headents[e+1].name || (l && l->next)) { 1631: if(l = next_hline(&e, l)){ ^^^ 1632: ods.cur_l = l; 1633: ods.cur_e = e; 1634: } 1635: } ^^^ pine3.91/pico/makefile.d-g - change two lines. Not sure if this is necessary, but it started working right after I did this. I changed the lines to use "dbx". After stepping through the program while trying to "reply" to a message, it worked. I exited "dbx" and it worked from the command line. line 51: #includes symbol info for debugging 52: #DASHO= -g 53: #for normal build 54: DASHO= -O CHANGE TO (enable debugging): line 51: #includes symbol info for debugging 52: DASHO= -g /* removed # */ 53: #for normal build 54: #DASHO= -O /* added # */ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 21:45:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20748; Mon, 15 Jan 96 21:45:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02772; Mon, 15 Jan 96 21:42:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02766; Mon, 15 Jan 96 21:42:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tc49k-0003QH-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 21:42:04 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: WEEVEY Subject: Re: Killfiles in mail Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 17:23:58 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <49qtsg$8mf@info-server.surrey.ac.uk> <4c0i4j$qi9@news.orst.edu> <4d1g5q$6eo@newsgate.dircon.co.uk> <4d3flg$ep4@dodgson.math.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4d3flg$ep4@dodgson.math.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: So how do I write a 'killfile' for Pine? Eva From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 15 21:45:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20764; Mon, 15 Jan 96 21:45:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29801; Mon, 15 Jan 96 21:42:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29795; Mon, 15 Jan 96 21:42:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tc49k-0003QG-00; Mon, 15 Jan 1996 21:42:04 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: WEEVEY Subject: Re: What's + mean in Folder Index? Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 17:26:27 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: <4d3f61$112@twizzler.callamer.com> <4d48jg$j03@dodgson.math.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4d48jg$j03@dodgson.math.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: That '+' sign helps me distinguish my personal mail from my mailing list mail. I think it is *great*! :) Eva From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 00:19:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23740; Tue, 16 Jan 96 00:19:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01954; Tue, 16 Jan 96 00:15:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01948; Tue, 16 Jan 96 00:15:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tc6XN-0005FQ-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 00:14:37 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tommy Quitt Subject: Re: setting forwarding address Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 00:43:34 +0200 Message-Id: References: <12JAN96.21434180@shrsys.hslc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <12JAN96.21434180@shrsys.hslc.org> Status: O X-Status: On 12 Jan 1996, JOHN BARR wrote: > Date: 12 JAN 96 21:43:41 GMT > From: JOHN BARR > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: setting forwarding address > > I'm new to Pine. In other versions of email I have used there is > a way to set a default forwarding address, to automatically forward > all received mail to another address. > > I can't find a way to do this in Pine. > If you are Using Pine for Unix and SendMail, try using a .forward file, and spcify there the address you wish to forward your messages to. More documentation on .forward in "man elm". Good Luck :) Tommy -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tommy Quitt tommyq@math.tau.ac.il home page: http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~tommyq -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 01:07:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25048; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:07:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02550; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:02:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02544; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:02:25 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:59:06 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id IAA07100; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:57:10 GMT Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:57:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: WEEVEY Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Killfiles in mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You don't at the moment: Pine 3.91 has no concept of kill files. Your closest approximation (for e-mail only, not Usenet News) would be to run your arriving mail through a filter program such as "procmail" to weed out messages whose subject/author you don't want to see. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 15 Jan 1996, WEEVEY wrote: > So how do I write a 'killfile' for Pine? > > Eva > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 01:13:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25316; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:13:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05680; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:07:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05673; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:07:38 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 16 Jan 1996 09:01:51 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id IAA07532; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:59:59 GMT Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 08:59:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Tommy Quitt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: setting forwarding address In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, Tommy Quitt wrote: > If you are Using Pine for Unix and SendMail, try using a .forward file, > and spcify there the address you wish to forward your messages to. > More documentation on .forward in "man elm". > Good Luck :) > Tommy ...But of course, there is no guarantee that Elm (an alternative mailer to Pine) is installed on their system! The "official" place to read about mail forwarding would be in the man page for the software that actually _does_ it: the mail delivery agent. Our system, like most UNIX machnes, uses "sendmail" as the mail delivery system. So a "man sendmail" is more certain to be there. (But you'll have to skim through some guff first in order to reach the bit about forwarding; look for mention of a ".forward" file.) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 01:19:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25448; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:19:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02684; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:07:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin-fddi.cris.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02678; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:07:12 -0800 Received: from mariner.cris.com by franklin-fddi.cris.com [1-800-745-CRIS (voice)] Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 04:06:49 -0500 (EST) From: WEEVEY To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Killfiles in mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Well, I don't have 'procmail' on this system. Is their some other way? I use the 'limited' gateway on CRIS. Eva @}---------- THE SIMMONS FACTOR --------- EVA SABRINA SIMMONS, PH.D. -------{@ WWW Personal Page: http://www.cris.com/~Weevey/index.html @}---- @}---- @}---- WATCH IT, OR IT MIGHT ATTACK!! ;) ---{@ ---{@ ---{@ ---{@ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 01:34:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26087; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:34:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02932; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:26:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from plum.epix.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02926; Tue, 16 Jan 96 01:26:21 -0800 Received: (elfride@localhost) by plum.epix.net (8.6.10/950112.08ccg) id EAA26621; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 04:30:58 -0500 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 04:30:57 -0500 (EST) From: elfride@epix.net To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: "Follow Up" Usenet Command on UW's PICO Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I don't know my arse from a hole in the ground when it comes to software programs, so if I sound stupid, I am. I'm currently using a Unix program (I think) that has a Usenet program called TIN. This program is incapalbe of being navigated with the cursor arrows or with the "K" or "J" up/down commands the program specifies. Therefore I cann't make replies to the Usenet; the cursor is locked in place and will let me neither delete and edit text or move to a position where I can insert a reply. If anyone at all can help me, would you please e-mail me at elfride@epix.net? Thank you very very much. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 02:18:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27042; Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:18:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06542; Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:09:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06526; Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:08:24 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 16 Jan 1996 10:03:26 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA17414; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 10:02:02 GMT Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 10:02:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: WEEVEY Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Killfiles in mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You need to find (on your system or on the Net) software that can be used with your mail delivery system's delivery mechanism. Basically most UNIX systems allow the mail deliverer program to pipe the arriving message through a program rather than writing the message directly into the recipient's mailbox. The program the message is piped through can then inspect the content and decide where to file the message (or junk it!). If you don't have procmail on your system there may be an equivalent, such as "filter". Try rummaging around or (shock, horror!) ask your help desk/system manager/service provider for assistance. After all _they_ should now what is available on your system (I don't!). If the worst comes to the worst you could consider ftp-ing procmail from an archive site on the net, and compilinig it up yourself. It doesn't need any special privileges, as far as I am aware, if you want to place it in and use it from your own disk area. Good luck! Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, WEEVEY wrote: > Well, I don't have 'procmail' on this system. Is their some other way? > I use the 'limited' gateway on CRIS. > > Eva > > @}---------- THE SIMMONS FACTOR --------- EVA SABRINA SIMMONS, PH.D. -------{@ > WWW Personal Page: http://www.cris.com/~Weevey/index.html > @}---- @}---- @}---- WATCH IT, OR IT MIGHT ATTACK!! ;) ---{@ ---{@ ---{@ ---{@ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 02:39:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27490; Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:39:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03826; Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:33:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin-fddi.cris.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03820; Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:33:05 -0800 Received: from mariner.cris.com by franklin-fddi.cris.com [1-800-745-CRIS (voice)] Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 05:32:09 -0500 (EST) From: WEEVEY To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Killfiles in mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I just checked on 'procmail' and discovered it was written in C. I can't compile C programs on this system...:( Any other ideas...? Eva @}---------- THE SIMMONS FACTOR --------- EVA SABRINA SIMMONS, PH.D. -------{@ WWW Personal Page: http://www.cris.com/~Weevey/index.html @}---- @}---- @}---- WATCH IT, OR IT MIGHT ATTACK!! ;) ---{@ ---{@ ---{@ ---{@ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 02:50:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27701; Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:50:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03903; Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:39:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03897; Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:39:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tc8mn-0006jE-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 02:38:41 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lwalton@csss.com (Lee Walton) Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Date: Sun, 14 Jan 1996 19:02:32 GMT Message-Id: <30f93a42.56172800@pubnews.demon.co.uk> References: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 07 Jan 1996 14:58:49 +1000, David Looke <100231.1433@compuserve.com> wrote: > Can anyone advise me on the best Mail Server for Windows NT? > > There are quite a few mail servers available, including: > > EMWAC, IMail, LISTSERV, Mi'Mail, NTMAIL, post.office, sendmail, > SLmailNT, and StarTech Internet Components--and probably others. I've been running the NTMail with eval keys for a couple off months now, and it is absolutely brilliant. Not only was it simple to install, there hasn't been a single glitch so far. Configuration is all done via a control panel applet, and it is possible to remotely administer the server. Later. Lee -- Lee Walton >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> KEEP .SIGS BRIEF <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 03:16:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28280; Tue, 16 Jan 96 03:16:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04082; Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:59:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay-4.mail.demon.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04076; Tue, 16 Jan 96 02:59:45 -0800 Received: from post.demon.co.uk ([158.152.1.72]) by relay-4.mail.demon.net id ac25013; 16 Jan 96 10:37 GMT Received: from esscomp.demon.co.uk ([158.152.10.158]) by relay-3.mail.demon.net id aa04889; 16 Jan 96 10:36 GMT Received: from ccmail by essential.co.uk (PMDF V5.0-3 #12581) id <01I02PNCNPLC0003LG@essential.co.uk> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 10:34:39 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 10:14 +0000 (GMT) From: sara.appleyard@essential.co.uk Subject: Tailoring Pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01I02PNHMY560003LG@essential.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: Questions relating to Pine Port to VMS I have users that want to see the word 'CREATE' rather than COMPOSE a mail message (they generally want to re-design the screen and the order in which options appear). They want to add their own fields to the address-book - e.g. extension number. Is this possible? Or should I tell them to be happy for what they get. Thanks in advance Sara Appleyard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 05:40:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01731; Tue, 16 Jan 96 05:40:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05905; Tue, 16 Jan 96 05:11:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05899; Tue, 16 Jan 96 05:11:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tcBAX-0000bB-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 05:11:21 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgoer@rgoer.candle.com (Ralph Goers) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: 16 Jan 1996 00:16:31 GMT Message-Id: <4deqov$q6j@phobos.Candle.Com> References: Status: O X-Status: In message <4ddqlf$j4e@decaxp.harvard.edu> - chen5@fas.harvard.edu (Christian C hen) writes: :> :>David Nugent (davidn@sdev.blaze.net.au) wrote: :>: The long-awaited OS/2 port of the Pine mail/news reader version 3.91 has :>: been uploaded to hobbes.nmsu.edu in /incoming as pine391.zip. :> :>It's been moved to the /new directory already, and probably will be :>moved to the os2/network/tcpip directory soon. :> :>Thank you very very much for doing this port! It runs faster than :>the windows version, too! :> :>Christian Chen The only problem is, its buggy (and like all other versions of Pine, as far as I can tell, somewhat frustrating). It took me quite a while to determine that in order to access your inbox using IMAP you must specify it as {imap.host/imap}inbox. The doc implies that /imap is not needed. I also tried setting my sentmail folder to {imap.host/imap}sentmail. This doesn't work so I can't access any folders which are managed by IMAP. However, you can do {imap.host}sentmail, which creates a sentmail file in your home directory, but that is not how an IMAP client is suppossed to create remote folders. The worst bug seems to be that when I only have 1 new message in the inbox I can see that I have one message but I cannot access it. When a second message arrives I can then see both. When I deleted messages, if I did not "expunge" them then the messages sit in the inbox marked deleted. If I exit Pine and then restart it the messages still show as in the inbox, but without header information and are not accessable. Worse, they can't be expunged by Pine (although Simeon was able to delete them). The annoyances: Esc should take you back one level. It's not a PM app. Although a mouse "pointer" shows up, it apparently doesn't do anything. Pine is MUCH faster than Simeon, but since I can't access my remote folders (other than the inbox) and it can't read my inbox with only one message in it (a frequent occurance - I move them to other folders), I'm pretty much stuck. Ralph From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 06:22:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02458; Tue, 16 Jan 96 06:22:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06567; Tue, 16 Jan 96 06:11:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06561; Tue, 16 Jan 96 06:11:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.35 #1) id E0tcC6I-0001EL-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 06:11:02 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob Wroblewski Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: Mon, 15 Jan 1996 20:49:43 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4ddqlf$j4e@decaxp.harvard.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ddqlf$j4e@decaxp.harvard.edu> Status: O X-Status: Yes Thank You very much for this port. bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 09:14:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08954; Tue, 16 Jan 96 09:14:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10001; Tue, 16 Jan 96 09:00:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dcdsv0.fnal.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09995; Tue, 16 Jan 96 09:00:29 -0800 Received: from localhost by dcdsv0.fnal.gov via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id LAA12754; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:00:16 -0600 Message-Id: <199601161700.LAA12754@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 1_6_1a To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: cmoseber@dcdsv0.fnal.gov Subject: Unexpanding MH folders Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:00:15 CST From: Clyde Moseberry Status: O X-Status: My mh folders do not expand. An excerpt from my pine List Folders screen is included below. Hitting the Select Here does NOT expand anything. BTW, other folders/collections DO epand. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Folder-collection <#mh/PR/documentation/[]> (Local) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Folder-collection <#mh/PR/exmh/[]> (Local) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Folder-collection <#mh/PR/ghostview/[]> (Local) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- - [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] These do not expand and yes they all contain information -- suggestions? C. V. Moseberry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 09:46:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11083; Tue, 16 Jan 96 09:46:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10875; Tue, 16 Jan 96 09:21:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10869; Tue, 16 Jan 96 09:21:01 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08619; Tue, 16 Jan 96 09:20:54 -0800 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 09:20:53 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Howard Hui Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Update Global Address Book by multiple people In-Reply-To: <4dedfp$9hn@sulla.cyberstore.ca> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: However it is that you have that one person update it, you can have others, too. The idea is that global address books won't be changing out from under you while you are running pine. However, there are some checks built in so that changes will almost always be detected and occasional changes will not be too annoying. For a global address book to be writable by a user, that user could move it to the address-book list (so it is a personal address book for them). They would also have to have write permission on the files and directory in which the files are located. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 15 Jan 1996, Howard Hui wrote: > Hi, > Sorry if it is a FAQ. > > I'm new to Pine and would like to know any ways or tools available to > allow multiple users to update the global address book? Since it is a > read only file. Right now only one person can update it. I'd like to > see if there is any way to update it using different ids. > > Thanks a lot! > > Howard Hui > Email: howardh@bcaa.bc.ca > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 10:14:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12435; Tue, 16 Jan 96 10:14:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12053; Tue, 16 Jan 96 09:59:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12043; Tue, 16 Jan 96 09:59:46 -0800 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-5 #2001) id <01I02OEOC6T48ZDVT2@INNOSOFT.COM>; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 09:58:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 09:58:30 -0800 (PST) From: Barry Chametzky Subject: comment field in address book To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Innosoft Tech Support Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: We have a customer who is interested in the following: When she adds a phone number in the comment field in her PINE address book, she would very much like to see this comment field on the screen (as well as all the other fields) rather than manually editing the line and typing C (for comment field). It is an interesting request. Is it possible to have such a feature in the next release of PINE? Thanks very much. --Barry Barry Chametzky Innosoft International, Inc. Telephone: (818) 919-3600 1050 East Garvey Avenue South FAX: (818) 919-3614 West Covina, California 91790 Web: http://www.innosoft.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 10:41:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13633; Tue, 16 Jan 96 10:41:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12699; Tue, 16 Jan 96 10:22:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12693; Tue, 16 Jan 96 10:22:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcG1N-0003uY-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 10:22:13 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afabbro@ren.us.itd.umich.edu (Andrew Philip Fabbro) Subject: Re: Pine and NCSA Telnet on MAC Date: 11 Jan 1996 04:48:16 GMT Message-Id: <4d24qg$11h@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: <4cghd1$gqj@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: O X-Status: Quoth Lauren T. Slawe: : NCSA Telnet already assigns functions to the ^C,^S and ^Z : keys. Fortunately you can change that yourself. Go up to the Session : menu and choose "setup keys" Erase what's in them, or choose others. : Now ^C should work, as it now gets to use the function that unix assigns : to it. Good advice. This probably doesn't need to be said, but that change is not permanent (i.e., you'd have to do that every time you open a session). Fortunately, you can the "Save Set" command to save that configuration to a "telnet set" (which you should then use in the future to invoke your session). Andrew Fabbro afabbro@umich.edu http://www.umich.edu/~afabbro/ "When in Bologna will a Fabbro rise again?" - Dante's Purgatorio, Canto XIV From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 11:04:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15022; Tue, 16 Jan 96 11:04:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13438; Tue, 16 Jan 96 10:47:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13432; Tue, 16 Jan 96 10:47:15 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11629; Tue, 16 Jan 96 10:47:14 -0800 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 10:47:13 -0800 (PST) From: Stefan Kramer Reply-To: Pine Information Center To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine-Info archives in Pine Information Center Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The Pine-Info mailing list archives in the University of Washington's Pine Information Center at http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ are now updated nightly, with new messages being added under the "Current month" link. The full-text index of all archived messages (Jan. 1995 - present) is now also updated nightly and supports searching for numeric strings; see http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/search.cgi --------------------------------------------------------- Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu Network Information Center Computing & Communications University of Washington Seattle, WA 98105-4527, USA --------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 11:22:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16323; Tue, 16 Jan 96 11:22:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17099; Tue, 16 Jan 96 11:03:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from server.bridgeway.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17093; Tue, 16 Jan 96 11:03:23 -0800 Received: (from andrew@localhost) by server.bridgeway.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA16736; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:06:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:06:09 -0800 (PST) From: Andrew Le To: Andrew Philip Fabbro Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and NCSA Telnet on MAC In-Reply-To: <4d24qg$11h@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 11 Jan 1996, Andrew Philip Fabbro wrote: > Quoth Lauren T. Slawe: > : NCSA Telnet already assigns functions to the ^C,^S and ^Z > : keys. Fortunately you can change that yourself. Go up to the Session > : menu and choose "setup keys" Erase what's in them, or choose others. > : Now ^C should work, as it now gets to use the function that unix assigns > : to it. > > > Good advice. This probably doesn't need to be said, but that change is > not permanent (i.e., you'd have to do that every time you open a session). > Fortunately, you can the "Save Set" command to save that configuration to > a "telnet set" (which you should then use in the future to invoke your > session). > If you use Telnet 2.6, under Edit -> Preferences -> Sessions you can change those keys so that they become PERMANENT for that particular session.... > > Andrew Fabbro afabbro@umich.edu http://www.umich.edu/~afabbro/ > "When in Bologna will a Fabbro rise again?" - Dante's Purgatorio, Canto XIV > > __(__)__ **************oO0-- @ @ --0Oo*************************** Andrew Le [] support@bridgway.com Bridgeway Corp. \____/ (206) 881-4270 Bridging the Gap in Network Mgt. (206) 861-1774 fax *********************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 11:53:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17813; Tue, 16 Jan 96 11:53:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18157; Tue, 16 Jan 96 11:40:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18151; Tue, 16 Jan 96 11:40:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcHEe-0004ah-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 11:40:00 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Pine for the Macintosh? Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 22:45:17 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4cp9bn$iot@redwood.cs.sc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4cp9bn$iot@redwood.cs.sc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 7 Jan 1996, David Langs wrote: > Hi: > > We have both Unix machines and Macs in our lab, and I have just recently > installed pine on our Unix machines, and so far I like it. I find the IMAP > feature intriguing. It would be nice if people who have Macs in their > offices could remotely access their mail folders on the Unix machines, but > I have so far not been able to find a version of Pine for the Macintosh. Does > such a thing exist, and if so where can I get it? If not, is there one in > the works? The only thing for the mac at the moment (and I'd like to be wrong about this!) is to open up a mac terminal program like NCSA Telnet or Zterm (depending on your connection), and run pine remotely on the unix box. Since pine is an all-text e-mail program, it works on any dumb terminal pretty much as well as on the unix machine itself. The only thing you have to do is help your users learn to use Telnet, which is no big chore. This, of course, assumes that they know how to use unix already. :-) Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 12:35:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19723; Tue, 16 Jan 96 12:35:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16312; Tue, 16 Jan 96 12:24:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dcdsv0.fnal.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16306; Tue, 16 Jan 96 12:24:17 -0800 Received: from localhost by dcdsv0.fnal.gov via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id OAA17574; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 14:24:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199601162024.OAA17574@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 1_6_1a To: cmoseber@dcdsv0.fnal.gov Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unexpanding MH folders Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 14:24:13 CST From: Clyde Moseberry Status: O X-Status: oh, never mind -- found out by a little more staring that I was simply attempting to go too deep in my MH folder tree; top_leaves - branch is as far as one can go. Below, documentation is a branch (MH files are top_leaves). PR is as far as one can go in valid .pinerc folder listings. If documentation grows a branch however, then the folder below will become valid. C.V.Moseberry > My mh folders do not expand. An excerpt from my pine List Folders screen is > included below. Hitting the Select Here does NOT expand anything. BTW, other > folders/collections DO epand. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Folder-collection <#mh/PR/documentation/[]> > (Local) > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > [ ** Empty List ** Select Here to Try Re-Expanding ] > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > C.V.Moseberry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 13:05:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21615; Tue, 16 Jan 96 13:05:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19938; Tue, 16 Jan 96 12:47:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19926; Tue, 16 Jan 96 12:47:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcIHw-0005LE-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 12:47:28 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afabbro@ren.us.itd.umich.edu (Andrew Philip Fabbro) Subject: Re: random .signature files Date: 11 Jan 1996 04:42:35 GMT Message-Id: <4d24fr$11h@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Pine's alternate editor command (CTRL-_) can actually call any external program you specify in setup, config. Having it call a script that implements random signatures would not be terrible difficult to write. You'd be composing in pico, finish your letter, and hit CTRL-_ to call the script. The script would take the file (the name of which is passed to it by pine as the first command-line argument), concatenate a random signature, and then exit, returning you to pico, where you'd hit control-X to send the letter on its merry way. I frequently use CTRL-_ as a facility to call scripts. If you really get into it, you can even write a menu allowing you to choose which script you want to call. Andrew Fabbro afabbro@umich.edu http://www.umich.edu/~afabbro/ "When in Bologna will a Fabbro rise again?" - Dante's Purgatorio, Canto XIV From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 13:19:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22163; Tue, 16 Jan 96 13:19:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17245; Tue, 16 Jan 96 12:56:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17239; Tue, 16 Jan 96 12:56:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcIQk-0005Rg-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 12:56:34 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: giese012@marron.tc.umn.edu Subject: mail transfer server-to-server Message-Id: Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 05:45:00 GMT Status: O X-Status: My Internet provider is a Univ that uses Pine as their e-mail service. I would like to configure my Unixware 2.0 WS to dial my provider on a regular basis and download my e-mail onto my local WS. Can anyone provide some help to get me going on this? A slip service is provided. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 13:54:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23993; Tue, 16 Jan 96 13:54:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21678; Tue, 16 Jan 96 13:41:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21672; Tue, 16 Jan 96 13:41:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcJ7m-0005xB-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 13:41:02 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Arrangement of Folders Date: 10 Jan 1996 20:41:04 GMT Message-Id: <4d1890$os1@guava.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Emmanuel Koku (ekoku@epas.utoronto.ca) wrote: : Hi, I'm wondering if someone has any idea about arranging folders : alphabetically to facilitate their location. I'd appreciate any : assistance. Cheers, Emmanuel. It should, by default, arrange them alphanumerically, except that the 3 default folders, INBOX, sent-mail, and saved-messages, will be at the top of the list before any new ones you have added. If that's not what it's doing, be more specific or send or post a copy. BYE. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 16:28:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02021; Tue, 16 Jan 96 16:28:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26777; Tue, 16 Jan 96 16:15:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26771; Tue, 16 Jan 96 16:15:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcLWY-000035-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 16:14:46 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 5x9@dec5102.aarhues.dk (Martin Kofoed) Subject: Re: Pine and mailing lists Date: 16 Jan 1996 11:06:46 GMT Message-Id: <4dg0s6$m5l@esanews.denet.dk> References: <4dd716$5qr@esanews.denet.dk> <4deum3$abr@tbone.biol.sc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Dean Pentcheff (dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu) wrote: >>Oh, and one last thing: How do you make Pine throw in your .signature in >>the *bottom* of quote-replied messages instead of in the *top*? > When in pine: Main/Setup/Config > then set: [X] signature-at-bottom Oh, it's that simple? Thanks for the tip! -- ==================================================== -[Martin Kofoed]- -[5x9@aabc.dk]- -[2:235/20.2]- ==================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 17:29:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04888; Tue, 16 Jan 96 17:29:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28642; Tue, 16 Jan 96 17:16:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28636; Tue, 16 Jan 96 17:16:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcMTe-0000gr-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:15:50 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afsypng@pollux.cmc.aes.doe.ca (Jacques Marcoux) Subject: Re: Attachment Binaries Date: 16 Jan 1996 07:53:12 -0500 Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: pauljo@netcom.com's message of Sat, 13 Jan 1996 20:01:36 GMT Status: O X-Status: Gee whiz it was probably refering to the lenght of your signature ... >>>>> "Paul" == Paul Johnson writes: In article pauljo@netcom.com (Paul Johnson) writes: Paul> Does anyone know if it is possible to attach a binary using Paul> Pine so that it can be sent to someone at AOL? When I've Paul> tried, I get an error message that the message is too long. Paul> Can pine be old to break it up? Paul> Suggestions? Paul> Thanks, Paul> Paul -- Paul Johnson pauljo@netcom.com pauljo@loop.com Paul> 75470.1721@compuserve.com pauljo@compuserve.com (after 1/96, Paul> assuming that Compuserve returns the money they overcharged Paul> us last year. It turns out that they have been chargin us Paul> $28.80/hour at a time when other serices were charging $2.50 Paul> to $3.00 for the same service. That's a 10 TIMES surcharge Paul> for using Compuserve. If you have a Compuserve account, we Paul> urge you to check your bill!!) pauljo@msn.com (on the rare Paul> occasions that the Microsoft Network is up and running and Paul> will process email. Due to the flakey nature of the Paul> Microsoft Network, it is not always possible to log on Paul> there, so this is the least reliable way to send email. Paul> Actually, since the "upgrade" to Microsoft Network Paul> downloaded on 1/10/95 trashed our computer, we have been Paul> unable to connect to MSN. According to Microsoft Tech Paul> "Support," we must re-install Windows 95, for the 17th time, Paul> and then download the "upgrade" again if we want to access Paul> MSN. Ask us if we like Windows 95). -- _______ _______ _______ _______ _______ _______ _______ __/\______\__/\______\__/\______\__/\______\__/\______\__/\______\__/\______\ /\_\/______/\_\/______/\_\/______/\_\/______/\_\/______/\_\/______/\_\/______/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ \/_/ Jacques Marcoux jmarcoux@cmc.aes.doe.ca 514.421.4794 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 18:32:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06411; Tue, 16 Jan 96 18:32:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00183; Tue, 16 Jan 96 18:29:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00177; Tue, 16 Jan 96 18:29:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcNbn-0001VH-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 18:28:19 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ems@ifsaix1.uni-hamburg.de (Richard Ems (ehm. guest)) Subject: help on filter Date: 16 Jan 1996 14:37:02 GMT Message-Id: <4dgd6e$eb4@rzsun02.rrz.uni-hamburg.de> Status: O X-Status: Hi people. I'm new reading mails on a Unix (AIX 3.2?) and I'm trying to filter incoming mails and put them on different folders (files?). I've heard from procmail, deliver and so on, but I only have filter on this blo... system. I tried with filter, but "man filter" didn't help much and nothing is working. Could someone give me some advice? Other methods? filter-FAQ's ? .filter-rules examples ? Thanks, rems -- ============================================== --- Richard Ems --- ---- e-mail: ems@schiffbau.uni-hamburg.de ---- ----- Institut fuer Schiffbau ----- ------ Universitaet Hamburg ------ ============================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 19:18:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07587; Tue, 16 Jan 96 19:18:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00770; Tue, 16 Jan 96 19:04:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00764; Tue, 16 Jan 96 19:04:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcO9l-0001rh-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:03:26 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ahk@lagnaf.isdn.mcs.net (Adam H. Kerman) Subject: Feature Request: View Attachment Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:28:28 GMT Status: O X-Status: I would find it useful if Pine would explicitly indicate when messages arrive with attachments. The "View Attachment" prompt should not be available unless there is an attachment. It would also help if the existence of attachments were noted on index screens. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 23:08:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12686; Tue, 16 Jan 96 23:08:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04192; Tue, 16 Jan 96 22:51:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cadul.cadul.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04186; Tue, 16 Jan 96 22:51:33 -0800 Received: (from mlists@localhost) by cadul.cadul.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA04710; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 07:22:00 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 07:21:59 +0000 (GMT) From: pseudo account f|r mailing lists To: Pine List Cc: norbert@cadul.de Subject: pico text modifications Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi to all, I`m currently installing pine as the mail delivery system on our site. I have one problem with pico I cannot resolve with the manuals. Pico replaces some characters with special codes when sending a mail. Example: Siemens -> =09Siemens ===== -> =3D=3D=3D -> =20 Is there a way to turn this off ?? Thanks for any reply, norbert From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 23:21:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12970; Tue, 16 Jan 96 23:21:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01859; Tue, 16 Jan 96 23:16:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01853; Tue, 16 Jan 96 23:16:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcS5o-0004kL-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:15:36 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: STRAUSS@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU (Robert Strauss) Subject: Help for pine newbie Date: 16 Jan 1996 15:36:05 GMT Message-Id: <4dggl5$pv6@cowee.wcu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Two things: when I exited pine, and had, for some reason, 32 messages in my Inbox, Pine deleted them. They are important. How can I get them back? (Pine asked if I wanted to delete them and I said NO) Second, is ther a way, in pine (3.91) to send a binary file? Thanks, Bob Strauss strauss@wcu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 16 23:32:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13253; Tue, 16 Jan 96 23:32:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04757; Tue, 16 Jan 96 23:15:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04751; Tue, 16 Jan 96 23:15:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcS5f-0004jz-00; Tue, 16 Jan 1996 23:15:27 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: michael piccorossi Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 character set - accents Date: 16 Jan 1996 15:19:13 GMT Message-Id: <4dgflh$fjt@portal.gmu.edu> References: <4d3jro$dom@rebecca.albany.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Okay, now I understand how to configure PINE so that it can READ the ISO character set, but is it possible to configure PINE so that users can compose messages using the ISO character set? Many thanks, Michael Piccorossi Language Instruction Technologist 233 Thompson Hall Foreign Languages and Literatures mpiccoro@gmu.edu George Mason University voice: 703-993-1264 Fairfax, Virginia 22030 fax: 703-99301245 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 01:21:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15875; Wed, 17 Jan 96 01:21:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06276; Wed, 17 Jan 96 01:07:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06270; Wed, 17 Jan 96 01:07:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcTq9-00064E-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 01:07:33 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bruce@rpl.regina.sk.ca (Bruce Welch) Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 character set - accents Date: 17 Jan 1996 07:16:53 GMT Message-Id: <4di7p5$p9r@mongol.sasknet.sk.ca> References: <4d3jro$dom@rebecca.albany.edu> <4dgflh$fjt@portal.gmu.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <4dgflh$fjt@portal.gmu.edu>, michael piccorossi wrote: : :Okay, now I understand how to configure PINE so that it can READ the ISO character set, but is :it possible to configure PINE so that users can compose messages using the ISO character set? : That is a function of your terminal. On my computer/terminal the following is a c in a circle i.e. copyright: © I produced it by typing alt-shift-e ... find a manual and have fun :-) -- this signature being renovated ... excuse the mess From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 01:30:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16329; Wed, 17 Jan 96 01:30:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03522; Wed, 17 Jan 96 01:12:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03512; Wed, 17 Jan 96 01:12:31 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:07:34 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA00724; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:07:07 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:07:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Barry Chametzky Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Innosoft Tech Support Subject: Re: comment field in address book In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: And perhaps she would like to pay to have everyone's terminals replaced with ones having wider screens? There's a limit to how much information can be fitted on an 80 character long line. :-) I for one would be definitely opposed to splitting each entry onto two lines (you'd get far fewer entries per screen, making use of the address book that much harder). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, Barry Chametzky wrote: > We have a customer who is interested in the following: > > When she adds a phone number in the comment field in her PINE address > book, she would very much like to see this comment field on the screen (as > well as all the other fields) rather than manually editing the line and > typing C (for comment field). > > It is an interesting request. Is it possible to have such a feature in > the next release of PINE? > > Thanks very much. > > --Barry > > Barry Chametzky > Innosoft International, Inc. Telephone: (818) 919-3600 > 1050 East Garvey Avenue South FAX: (818) 919-3614 > West Covina, California 91790 Web: http://www.innosoft.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 02:20:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17409; Wed, 17 Jan 96 02:20:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07001; Wed, 17 Jan 96 02:02:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06995; Wed, 17 Jan 96 02:02:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcUgt-0006fj-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 02:02:03 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pierre Joris Subject: unsubscribing newsgroups Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 21:05:50 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I seem to be unable to unsubscribe to any newsgroups (& using pine for the first time as newsreader) -- when I am in the newsgroup list (huge! as I haven't been able to edit it down) and a given newgroup is highlighted, I hit "d" for delete and then confirm with "yes" when p[rompted to.When I reopen pine, rather than seeing the shortlist of subscribed groups I expect, I get the whole, enormnous, list ofd groups again. What am I doing wrong or forgetting? (BTW the pine help file was of no help on this) Pierre ======================================================================= Pierre Joris | "Form fascinates when one no longer has the force Dept. of English | to understand force from within itself. That SUNY Albany | is, to create." -- Jacques Derrida Albany NY 12222 | tel&fax:(518) 426 0433 | "Poetry is the promise of a language." email: | -- Friedrich Holderlin joris@cnsunix.albany.edu| ======================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 03:04:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18171; Wed, 17 Jan 96 03:04:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07577; Wed, 17 Jan 96 02:54:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07571; Wed, 17 Jan 96 02:54:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcVVE-0007DR-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 02:54:04 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@evo.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 character set - accents Date: 17 Jan 1996 08:38:49 GMT Message-Id: <4dicip$so4@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4d3jro$dom@rebecca.albany.edu> <4dgflh$fjt@portal.gmu.edu> In-Reply-To: <4dgflh$fjt@portal.gmu.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <4dgflh$fjt@portal.gmu.edu>, michael piccorossi writes: > >Okay, now I understand how to configure PINE so that it can READ the >ISO character set, but is >it possible to configure PINE so that users can compose messages using >the ISO character set? I think this is a keyboard-mapping problem and not a problem with Pine. Margrete (DoD#8925, BB#3) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 03:45:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19114; Wed, 17 Jan 96 03:45:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05313; Wed, 17 Jan 96 03:33:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05307; Wed, 17 Jan 96 03:33:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcW6o-0007cm-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 03:32:54 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ROB ELLIOTT Subject: Errors in my Addressbook Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:53:09 GMT Message-Id: <821814789.18083@m15.burton-college.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Status: O X-Status: We have a very large mailing list in our .addressbook and when we use it it cannot deliver mail to some of the members and gives the error 554 J Bloggs Mr character. we created the .addressbook using the text editor and we've scanned it to make sure we haven't missed any tabs etc but all seems ok From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 03:48:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19200; Wed, 17 Jan 96 03:48:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08114; Wed, 17 Jan 96 03:33:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08108; Wed, 17 Jan 96 03:33:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcW6o-0007cl-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 03:32:54 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Llewellyn Subject: Pine hangs when sending Date: 16 Jan 1996 16:08:51 GMT Message-Id: <4dgiij$2oo@hustle.rahul.net> Status: O X-Status: I've had a problem develop with Pine 3.91 over the past couple of weeks (I've been using 3.91 at least since June '95) where it hangs for over 2 minutes in the "sending message" mode after I finish composing and send. It seems to be delaying by the same time interval (2.5 minutes) Pine uses to query the inbox. After hanging, which it doesn't do every time, it finishes sending and goes back to normal operation. Quitting and restarting doesn't help, nor did rebooting the workstation (Sparc20). Anyone else had this problem? -- -- Bill Llewellyn, http://rahul.net/thinker "I'd never quote myself." (...me) I'll take on ANYBODY in a missppelling contest. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 04:48:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21153; Wed, 17 Jan 96 04:48:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06362; Wed, 17 Jan 96 04:37:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cadul.cadul.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06332; Wed, 17 Jan 96 04:35:48 -0800 Received: (from mlists@localhost) by cadul.cadul.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA10942; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:06:03 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:06:03 +0000 (GMT) From: pseudo account f|r mailing lists To: Pine List Subject: saving all messages Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is is possible to automatically save all incoming messages during readinto the folder saved-messages without explicitly using S-"save message" ? Thanks for any help, Norbert =============================================================================== Phone: +49 731 937600 CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de Germany sales@cadul.de WWW: http://www.cadul.de =============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 05:08:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21744; Wed, 17 Jan 96 05:08:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09342; Wed, 17 Jan 96 04:54:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09336; Wed, 17 Jan 96 04:54:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcXNO-0000ho-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 04:54:06 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se (Johan Holmberg) Subject: Re: RFC1342 (printing 8-bit chars in the Subject) Date: 17 Jan 1996 13:34:34 +0100 Message-Id: <6391j7q9t1.fsf@promotor.telia.se> References: In-Reply-To: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se's message of 15 Jan 1996 08:36:18 Status: O X-Status: A couple of days ago I wrote: > > Dimakopoulos Panagiotis writes: > > > > Does anybody know if a patch has been released for pine to comply > > with the RFC1342 ? This RFC describes an extension to the message > > format defined in RFC 1341 (MIME) to allow the representation of > > character sets other than ASCII in RFC 822 message headers. > > > > I have a patch that does this. [...] > [...] > > I have used this patch a lot on SunOS and IRIX, and beleive it works > on Solaris-2 and HPUX too. Shouldn't be any problems for other platforms, > but I just haven't modified the Makefiles for other platforms. > > But, since 3.92 isn't far away, I'll probably not do any further work > on it. > > Anyway, if you want to try my patch, send me an email and I'll > send you the patch. > The patch is now available as ftp://ftp.nada.kth.se/pub/i18n/mime_head/pine3.91-jh803.tar.gz /johan holmberg -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Johan Holmberg Email: holmberg@upp.promotor.telia.se Telia Promotor AB Phone: +46 18 18 94 55 Box 1218 Mobile: +46 70 528 94 55 751 42 Uppsala, SWEDEN Fax: +46 18 18 94 99 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 06:16:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23331; Wed, 17 Jan 96 06:16:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07472; Wed, 17 Jan 96 06:03:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aurora.cstp.umkc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07466; Wed, 17 Jan 96 06:03:09 -0800 Received: by aurora.cstp.umkc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20Dec94-0832AM) id AA17204; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:02:53 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:02:52 -0600 (CST) From: Anuj Agrawal To: Robert Strauss Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help for pine newbie In-Reply-To: <4dggl5$pv6@cowee.wcu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, i'm new here too, but i'd like to help as much as possible. 8) To send a binary file, simply put the filename (the full path if necessary) under the Attchmnt: option in your header. It's as simple as that! LONG LIVE PINE! 8) nuj. On 16 Jan 1996, Robert Strauss wrote: > Second, is ther a way, in pine (3.91) to send a binary file? > strauss@wcu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 06:17:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23391; Wed, 17 Jan 96 06:17:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10123; Wed, 17 Jan 96 05:59:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10117; Wed, 17 Jan 96 05:59:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcYO6-0001No-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 05:58:54 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmahar@q.continuum.net (Dick Mahar) Subject: Sending E-Mail Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 00:47:11 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: A dumb question. I can retrieve my mail OK, and compose, but I can't figure out how to get that "^X" into the picture to send mail. Help! Thanks in advance.......Dick Mahar From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 06:24:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23552; Wed, 17 Jan 96 06:24:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10361; Wed, 17 Jan 96 06:12:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vax2.winona.msus.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10355; Wed, 17 Jan 96 06:12:10 -0800 Received: from VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU by VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (PMDF V5.0-4 #11715) id <01I03YYZRGYC00BOHU@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:12:00 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:12:00 -0600 (CST) From: bcherne@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU Subject: Outgoing messages To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: Hi There, My pine mailer used to automatically save a copy of all outgoing messages but it doesn't anymore. Is there a way I can set it to do so? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 06:25:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23580; Wed, 17 Jan 96 06:25:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10309; Wed, 17 Jan 96 06:08:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aurora.cstp.umkc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10303; Wed, 17 Jan 96 06:08:25 -0800 Received: by aurora.cstp.umkc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20Dec94-0832AM) id AA14817; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:08:24 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:08:24 -0600 (CST) From: Anuj Agrawal To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Error whilst opening folders. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-106775614-818869814=:7815" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-106775614-818869814=:7815 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi, i've read the FAQ on Folder Problems and it seems that my problem could be related to the folder lock deal, but i'm not sure. We have a number of UNIX boxes in our department. Recently we added 2 more Alpha machines, and we've always been using a common file sharing system. On the older machines, Pine 3.91 works like a whiz. But with the newer machines, no configuration changes have been made, but everytime we Goto a Folder, it would give the following error above the 2 rows of Commands at the bottom of the screen: [Error creating /users/a/anuja/unix/mail/foldername.lock: I/O error] Although it doesn't lose any mail, and does the saving and moving of mails to the folders properly, but the error is worrisome. This has happened to any user who tries to use Pine, not just me. We've checked to ensure that no other Pine session was open. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. nuj. --0-106775614-818869814=:7815-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 07:13:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24683; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:13:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08404; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:02:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cadul.cadul.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08396; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:02:10 -0800 Received: (from mlists@localhost) by cadul.cadul.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id PAA12756; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 15:06:56 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 15:06:56 +0000 (GMT) From: pseudo account f|r mailing lists To: Dick Mahar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sending E-Mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Dick Mahar wrote: > A dumb question. I can retrieve my mail OK, and compose, but I can't figure > out how to get that "^X" into the picture to send mail. Help! Thanks in > advance.......Dick Mahar > A dumb answer: the ^-stands for the control key of the keyboard. To enter ^X, press the control key of your keyboard and hold it down while pressing the X-key. If your keyboard has no control key, try ESC ESC X a alternate way to enter ^X Norbert =============================================================================== Phone: +49 731 937600 CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de Germany sales@cadul.de WWW: http://www.cadul.de =============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 07:26:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25074; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:26:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11207; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:08:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aurora.cstp.umkc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11201; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:08:39 -0800 Received: by aurora.cstp.umkc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20Dec94-0832AM) id AA17699; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:08:16 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:08:16 -0600 (CST) From: Anuj Agrawal To: bcherne@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Outgoing messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, you might want to check in your pine config (either .pinerc or thru' the menu config) where it says Default Folder= .. just make sure there is some folder name there. Hope that helps. nuj. On Wed, 17 Jan 1996 bcherne@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU wrote: > My pine mailer used to automatically save a copy of all outgoing > messages but it doesn't anymore. Is there a way I can set it to do so? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 07:27:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25113; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:27:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08632; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:14:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08620; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:14:20 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:06:44 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA04973; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:06:01 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:06:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: pseudo account f|r mailing lists Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: saving all messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm not quite clear what you are actucally asking here. Are you wanting to move messages you have read out of the INBOX and into another folder? If so (and assuming you are using Pine 3.91) use the Setup (S) command at Pine's Main Menu, followed by Configuration (C). Then set up the name of the folder they are to be moved to as the value of the "read-message-folder" variable. When you quit Pine it will now ask you whether you want messages you have read moving into this folder. If you don't want to be asked but have the messages move automatically you will need to turn on the "auto-move-read-msgs" option too. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, pseudo account f|r mailing lists wrote: > > Is is possible to automatically save all incoming messages during > readinto the folder saved-messages without explicitly > using S-"save message" ? > > Thanks for any help, > Norbert > > =============================================================================== > Phone: +49 731 937600 > CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 > Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 > 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de > Germany sales@cadul.de > WWW: http://www.cadul.de > =============================================================================== > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 07:40:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25487; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:40:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11289; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:15:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11283; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:15:21 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:51:25 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id OAA03500; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:50:46 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:50:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: bcherne@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Outgoing messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Go into the Setup Configuration screen. Check you still have a value set for the "default-fcc" variable. (Is it my imagination, or doesn't anybody bother looking at the Setup Configuration screen before asking for help? :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 17 Jan 1996 bcherne@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU wrote: > Hi There, > My pine mailer used to automatically save a copy of all outgoing > messages but it doesn't anymore. Is there a way I can set it to do so? > Thanks > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 08:09:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26586; Wed, 17 Jan 96 08:09:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09077; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:40:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from inet1.dtrd.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09064; Wed, 17 Jan 96 07:39:41 -0800 Received: (from nuucp@localhost) by inet1.dtrd.de (8.7.2/8.7.2) with UUCP id QAA04589; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 16:10:20 +0100 (MET) Received: from sun51.fz.telekom.de (sun51.fz.telekom.de [192.166.56.95]) by sunshine.fz.telekom.de (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA16017; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 16:03:31 +0100 Received: by sun51.fz.telekom.de (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23019; Wed, 17 Jan 96 16:05:11 +0100 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 16:05:11 +0100 (MET) From: Ralf Widera Reply-To: widera@fz.telekom.de To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Barry Chametzky , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: comment field in address book In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > And perhaps she would like to pay to have everyone's terminals replaced > with ones having wider screens? There's a limit to how much information > can be fitted on an 80 character long line. :-) I for one would be > definitely opposed to splitting each entry onto two lines (you'd get far > fewer entries per screen, making use of the address book that much harder). > > > When she adds a phone number in the comment field in her PINE address > > book, she would very much like to see this comment field on the screen (as > > well as all the other fields) rather than manually editing the line and > > typing C (for comment field). Perhaps it could be done the same way as is currently the case with long addresses. They do not fit completely on the screen (80 chars) but are visible by increasing the window (I am using pine in an xterm :-)). The comment field could just be added behind the address field. Thus it could be made visible by increasing the window size for people who are lucky enough. So all without this possibility would have no loss compared to the current situation. I have to admit that I also would be very much interested in a visible comment field. -raw --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ralf Widera, FZ 213e | Email: widera@fz.telekom.de | __o Deutsche Telekom AG | phone: +49 6151 83 3855 | \<,_ Technologiezentrum | FAX : +49 6151 83 4591 | (_)/(_) Postfach 10 00 03 | D-64276 Darmstadt, Germany | ---------------------------------Bagpipes (n): an octopus wearing a kilt.-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 08:17:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26978; Wed, 17 Jan 96 08:17:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12262; Wed, 17 Jan 96 08:08:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12256; Wed, 17 Jan 96 08:08:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #1) id E0tcaON-0002nl-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 08:07:19 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pontius@twonky.btv.ibm.com (Dale Pontius) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: 16 Jan 1996 08:47:38 -0500 Message-Id: <4dga9q$h4q@twonky.btv.ibm.com> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , David Nugent writes: > > The long-awaited OS/2 port of the Pine mail/news reader version 3.91 has > been uploaded to hobbes.nmsu.edu in /incoming as pine391.zip. > deletia > . The following client mailstream drivers are supported by Pine-OS2: > > imap,nntp,pop3,bezrk,tenex,dawz,dummy > I don't see smtp here. Is that so basic it's a no-brainer, or is it missing. My provider has pop3 to deliver mail to me, but I use smtp to send it. Thanks, Dale Pontius (NOT speaking for IBM) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 08:25:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27593; Wed, 17 Jan 96 08:25:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12224; Wed, 17 Jan 96 08:07:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sarah.albany.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12218; Wed, 17 Jan 96 08:07:02 -0800 Received: from 128.204.1.235 (coco2.albany.edu [128.204.1.235]) by sarah.albany.edu (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id LAA25595 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:06:10 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <30FCD8E4.4FC9@eve.albany.edu> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 11:09:24 +0000 From: Rick Inzerillo X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b5 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine folders X-Url: http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/pine-info/current/msg00230.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I am currently supporting many users on a unix cluster. I get a LOT of mail. I find it very confusing to have all my old mail (by semester) in the folder list. I would like to make it so I can access a folder that has a list of folders in it (it has the list of old mail) Can anyone make suggestions as to how I can put these folders somewhere else where they will be easily accessable, but not right under my nose? Also, this may be in the bug-report area of your operation, but why does pine always try to mark messages as deleted when I browse my saved-messages folder? I always find myself having to answer no to "expunge 6 messages from saved-messages?" Thanks very much for any input. Rick Inzerillo The UNIX System Consultant University at Albany Computing and Network Services 1400 Washington Ave internet: consult@cnsunix.albany.edu Albany, NY 12222 Thank you for your questions and input. They help us improve our UNIX services. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 08:39:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28260; Wed, 17 Jan 96 08:39:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12541; Wed, 17 Jan 96 08:16:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12533; Wed, 17 Jan 96 08:16:51 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id JAA01131 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:16:45 -0700 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA26492; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:16:46 -0700 Received: by gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id JAA68914; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:16:45 -0700 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:16:45 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca To: Dick Mahar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Sending E-Mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Dick Mahar wrote: > A dumb question. I can retrieve my mail OK, and compose, but I can't figure > out how to get that "^X" into the picture to send mail. Help! Thanks in > advance.......Dick Mahar Standard way to send is, when finished composing, hold the CTRL key down and press the x key. Does this not work for you? If not, tell us what happens when you try it... Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) . (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 09:28:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01247; Wed, 17 Jan 96 09:28:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11489; Wed, 17 Jan 96 09:08:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11475; Wed, 17 Jan 96 09:07:31 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 17 Jan 1996 15:45:08 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id PAA22946; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 15:44:32 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 15:44:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: widera@fz.telekom.de Cc: Barry Chametzky , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: comment field in address book In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Actually, I use the "default fcc" field of Address Book entries more often than the comment field, and so would naturally prefer to have it displayed in preference. :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Ralf Widera wrote: > I have to admit that I also would be very much interested in a visible > comment field. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 10:10:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04390; Wed, 17 Jan 96 10:10:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12892; Wed, 17 Jan 96 09:52:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12884; Wed, 17 Jan 96 09:52:11 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16971; Wed, 17 Jan 96 09:49:35 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:49:32 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Mike Brudenell Cc: widera@fz.telekom.de, Barry Chametzky , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: comment field in address book In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Actually, I use the "default fcc" field of Address Book entries more > often than the comment field, and so would naturally prefer to have it > displayed in preference. :-) > This will be available in Pine 3.92. > On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Ralf Widera wrote: > > > I have to admit that I also would be very much interested in a visible > > comment field. > This too... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 10:25:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05317; Wed, 17 Jan 96 10:25:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13202; Wed, 17 Jan 96 10:01:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13196; Wed, 17 Jan 96 10:01:14 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17062; Wed, 17 Jan 96 09:53:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 09:53:45 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: ROB ELLIOTT Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Errors in my Addressbook In-Reply-To: <821814789.18083@m15.burton-college.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is not a pine bug. It is a failure of your mail transport (sendmail?) overflowing some fixed-size buffers and not recovering correctly. Sometimes setting "smtp-server=localhost" is enough to work around the bug... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 16 Jan 1996, ROB ELLIOTT wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > From: ROB ELLIOTT > Subject: Errors in my Addressbook > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 17:53:09 GMT > Message-ID: <821814789.18083@m15.burton-college.ac.uk> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > We have a very large mailing list in our .addressbook and when we use it > it cannot deliver mail to some of the members and gives the error > > 554 J Bloggs Mr > character. > > we created the .addressbook using the text editor and we've scanned it to > make sure we haven't missed any tabs etc but all seems ok > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 10:57:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07129; Wed, 17 Jan 96 10:57:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17009; Wed, 17 Jan 96 10:45:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17003; Wed, 17 Jan 96 10:45:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tccr7-0004Db-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 10:45:09 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pauljo@netcom.com (Paul Johnson) Subject: Re: Attachment Binaries Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 18:32:45 GMT Status: O X-Status: Jacques Marcoux (afsypng@pollux.cmc.aes.doe.ca) wrote: : Gee whiz it was probably refering to the lenght of your signature ... Jacques, For all of the time I have been on the internet, I have conformed to the netettiquete guidlines of four lines per signature (to which I note you do not adhere). Recently, however, I feel that we (my company and myself) have been so sorely used, cheated, deceived and scammed by both Microsoft and Compuserve, in different but equally sleazy ways, that I have no other recourse than to do everything in my power to warn others in the computing community to how these behemoths are behaving. If either company sees fit to rectify the situation, I will be only to happy to return to my humble, four line sig. But other than shaming them on the net, I have no real power against these giants. I choose not to bend over and pretend I enjoy it, like so many others I see. Regards, Paul -- Paul Johnson pauljo@netcom.com pauljo@loop.com 75470.1721@compuserve.com pauljo@compuserve.com (after 1/96, assuming that Compuserve returns the money they overcharged us last year. It turns out that they have been chargin us $28.80/hour at a time when other serices were charging $2.50 to $3.00 for the same service. That's a 10 TIMES surcharge for using Compuserve. If you have a Compuserve account, we urge you to check your bill!!) pauljo@msn.com (on the rare occasions that the Microsoft Network is up and running and will process email. Due to the flakey nature of the Microsoft Network, it is not always possible to log on there, so this is the least reliable way to send email. Actually, since the "upgrade" to Microsoft Network downloaded on 1/10/95 trashed our computer, we have been unable to connect to MSN. According to Microsoft Tech "Support," we must re-install Windows 95, for the 17th time, and then download the "upgrade" again if we want to access MSN. Ask us if we like Windows 95). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 11:05:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07528; Wed, 17 Jan 96 11:05:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14756; Wed, 17 Jan 96 10:50:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.liv.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14750; Wed, 17 Jan 96 10:50:47 -0800 Received: from pop.liv.ac.uk by mail.liv.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 17 Jan 1996 18:49:56 +0000 Received: from mail.liv.ac.uk (mail-le0.liv.ac.uk [138.253.31.6]) by pop.liv.ac.uk (8.6.12/8.6.6-ajt-2) with SMTP id SAA14211 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 18:49:43 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 18:49:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Alan Thew X-Sender: qq11@mail.liv.ac.uk To: Pine List Subject: metamail and showexternal problems. Message-Id: Organization: The University of Liverpool Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I cannot get this to work with pine 3.91 (metamail 2.7) but elm which should use all the same code is fine. Any ideas? Thank you. -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 12:37:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11987; Wed, 17 Jan 96 12:37:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19654; Wed, 17 Jan 96 12:25:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19648; Wed, 17 Jan 96 12:25:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tceQI-000563-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:25:34 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Help for pine newbie Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 18:19:18 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4dggl5$pv6@cowee.wcu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dggl5$pv6@cowee.wcu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 16 Jan 1996, Robert Strauss wrote: > Two things: > when I exited pine, and had, for some reason, 32 messages in my Inbox, Pine > deleted them. They are important. How can I get them back? (Pine asked if I > wanted to delete them and I said NO) I assume that you are using Pine on VMS. VMS Pine will "move" messages from INBOX to MAIL. Use the "L" command to see a list of all your folders, and check to see whether the message is in any of those. I may very well have the details (which folders, exectly what gets done with the message, etc) wrong, but I beleive your mail is in another folder, unless you really did delete them, and it doesn't sound like you did. > Second, is ther a way, in pine (3.91) to send a binary file? > Thanks, Yes. When your cursor is in the "headers" of the message, type Ctrl-J and follow the instructions. -jeff Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 13:36:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15329; Wed, 17 Jan 96 13:36:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21535; Wed, 17 Jan 96 13:17:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from SUMMER.INNOSOFT.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21529; Wed, 17 Jan 96 13:17:38 -0800 Received: from SUMMER.INNOSOFT.COM by SUMMER.INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-5 #1) id <01I049NW3KZ88WW1DX@SUMMER.INNOSOFT.COM>; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:18:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 13:18:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Help for pine newbie In-Reply-To: To: Jeffrey Goldberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > On 16 Jan 1996, Robert Strauss wrote: > > > Two things: > > when I exited pine, and had, for some reason, 32 messages in my Inbox, Pine > > deleted them. They are important. How can I get them back? (Pine asked if I > > wanted to delete them and I said NO) > > I assume that you are using Pine on VMS. VMS Pine will "move" messages > from INBOX to MAIL. Use the "L" command to see a list of all your > folders, and check to see whether the message is in any of those. if you are using Pine on VMS from Innosoft (part of the PMDF product) then Pine does NOT do so for you automatically. via auto-move-read-msgs you may have configured Pine to do it for you, but otherwise messages are not moved anywhere unless you Save or Delete them. > > I may very well have the details (which folders, exectly what gets done > with the message, etc) wrong, but I beleive your mail is in another > folder, unless you really did delete them, and it doesn't sound like you > did. > > > Second, is ther a way, in pine (3.91) to send a binary file? > > Thanks, > > Yes. When your cursor is in the "headers" of the message, type Ctrl-J > and follow the instructions. > > -jeff > > Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 > Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 > J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ > "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | /portia portia@innosoft.com | | Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax| | 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 | +--- http://www.innosoft.com/www_root/doc/app-notes/popnimap.html ---+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 14:46:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18587; Wed, 17 Jan 96 14:46:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21223; Wed, 17 Jan 96 14:29:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21217; Wed, 17 Jan 96 14:29:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tcgLF-0006FR-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:28:29 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkeintz@ Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: 17 Jan 1996 14:46:37 GMT Message-Id: <4dj24d$iv1@netnews.upenn.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In , David Nugent writes: >The long-awaited OS/2 port of the Pine mail/news reader version 3.91 has >been uploaded to hobbes.nmsu.edu in /incoming as pine391.zip. I installed PINE for OS/2 on my Warp/connect machine. BUT ... it sucks up all available cycles, even when doing no more that waiting for keyboard input. This is indicated both by very balky behavior (i.e. bringing another window to the foreground may take 30 seconds to a minute), and buy the Pulse cpu monitor that comes with Warp. What can I do about this? thanks, mark Mark Keintz mark_keintz@pop.upenn.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 14:51:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18984; Wed, 17 Jan 96 14:51:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24055; Wed, 17 Jan 96 14:37:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24049; Wed, 17 Jan 96 14:37:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tcgTV-0006NR-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:37:01 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swald@cde2s.ssc.wisc.edu (Sandra Wald) Subject: Pine: blocking text Date: 17 Jan 1996 19:32:16 GMT Message-Id: <4djis0$1jdq@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: I have the following question from an user. I have not gotten an answer on my own. One more question: Would you tell me how to select the text to cut and paste in PINE? CTRL+K cut only the line, and I would like to know how to select more than one line (or part of the line). Thanks in advance, Sandra -- Sandra J. Wald swald@ssc.wisc.edu (608) 265-4922 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 17:17:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26321; Wed, 17 Jan 96 17:17:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28386; Wed, 17 Jan 96 17:05:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from icicle.winternet.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28378; Wed, 17 Jan 96 17:05:25 -0800 Received: from solutions.solon.com (root@solutions.solon.com [192.129.84.3]) by icicle (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id TAA24583 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:05:19 -0600 Posted-Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:05:19 -0600 Received: from [192.129.84.193] (stevehar.solon.com [192.129.84.193]) by solutions.solon.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA00439 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:06:18 -0600 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:06:18 -0600 Message-Id: <199601180106.TAA00439@solutions.solon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevehar@solon.com (Steve Harrington) Subject: The quality of your software Status: O X-Status: I am a new and very dissatisfied user of your software. The last time I had do deal with such conflicted software was in the early 80's at Control Data. The level of inconsistency between command sets in different screens, editors, functions etc is unbelievable and unacceptable. If I ever have the opportunity to offer an opinion to another unfortunate user about Pine, your development team or the quality of software products licensed from the University of Washington, please know where I stand. For you to inflict this software on as you say: "literally millions of people around the world, and thousands more every day" is dishonest. You should include in your FAQ a method for users to replace your product with something that actually works. Steve Harrington stevehar@solon.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 17:27:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26740; Wed, 17 Jan 96 17:27:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25647; Wed, 17 Jan 96 17:04:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25638; Wed, 17 Jan 96 17:04:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tciky-0000DF-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 17:03:13 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph Davidson Subject: Re: Convert Pine addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 16:07:33 -0500 Message-Id: References: <199601171912.UAA16287@johanna4.hsr.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199601171912.UAA16287@johanna4.hsr.no> Status: O X-Status: This is a tougher problem. Pine requires a first and last name, and uses them both in the addresses and to sort the file (on the last name). Eudora does not require these and if they are there, are there as part of the address, such as "Joseph Davidson " (quotes not included.) The name does not have to be in any special format. This means for me to convert back, I would have to do some educated guessing -- actually mind reading -- on what the name of the recipient is. Any ideas would be appreciated. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Svein Skjaeveland wrote: > In article you wrote: > > : I have written a Perl script which will convert your Pine ".addressbook" file > : into an Eudora Nickname file. In less technical terms it converts your Pine > : addressbook to a Eudora addressbook. > > : You can find it at http://www.interguru.com/pineudo.html > > : If you have problems with the script, or the instructions, feel free to > : contact me at jdavidson@interguru.com > > > Do you have a script converting from Eudora to Pine? > > Svein M. Skjaeveland > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 17:48:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27415; Wed, 17 Jan 96 17:48:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29126; Wed, 17 Jan 96 17:39:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from h141-206-15-110.ATTGIS.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29120; Wed, 17 Jan 96 17:39:18 -0800 Received: from hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA13126; Wed, 17 Jan 96 17:37:43 PST Received: by hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01529; Wed, 17 Jan 96 17:37:37 PST Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 17:37:36 -0800 (PST) From: Steven Feinholz X-Sender: sf3@hostsw7 To: Steve Harrington Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The quality of your software In-Reply-To: <199601180106.TAA00439@solutions.solon.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Steve Harrington wrote: > I am a new and very dissatisfied user of your software. The last time I > had do deal with such conflicted software was in the early 80's at Control > Data. The level of inconsistency between command sets in different screens, > editors, functions etc is unbelievable and unacceptable. If I ever have the > opportunity to offer an opinion to another unfortunate user about Pine, > your development team or the quality of software products licensed from the > University of Washington, please know where I stand. For you to inflict > this software on as you say: "literally millions of people around the > world, and thousands more every day" is dishonest. You should include in > your FAQ a method for users to replace your product with something that > actually works. > > Steve Harrington > stevehar@solon.com > > > Considering how many happy users there are, you may be in the minority. May be it is just you. But to come across with just disdain as you have will only make people just hit the button on the email. Maybe you should try to be a little constructive with your criticism (sp). ______________________________________________________________________ ==== AT&T GIS | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 =--=== (Insert | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 =--=== New Name | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 ==== Here) | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | sf3@ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.com ______________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 18:11:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27929; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:11:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27083; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:05:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27076; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:05:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tcjiS-0000u3-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 18:04:40 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Help for pine newbie Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:56:05 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4dggl5$pv6@cowee.wcu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dggl5$pv6@cowee.wcu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 16 Jan 1996, Robert Strauss wrote: > Two things: > when I exited pine, and had, for some reason, 32 messages in my Inbox, Pine > deleted them. They are important. How can I get them back? (Pine asked if I > wanted to delete them and I said NO) If you actually opened (looked at) the messages and then exited without taking any other actions, Pine may have transferred them to a saved-messages folder. Try looking for them there. > Second, is ther a way, in pine (3.91) to send a binary file? > Thanks, Yes. As an attachment. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 18:20:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28249; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:20:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29692; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:10:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29686; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:10:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tcjnG-0000z0-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 18:09:38 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 15:10:57 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4dga9q$h4q@twonky.btv.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dga9q$h4q@twonky.btv.ibm.com> Status: O X-Status: On 16 Jan 1996, Dale Pontius wrote: > > . The following client mailstream drivers are supported by Pine-OS2: > > > > imap,nntp,pop3,bezrk,tenex,dawz,dummy > > > I don't see smtp here. Is that so basic it's a no-brainer, or is it > missing. My provider has pop3 to deliver mail to me, but I use smtp > to send it. It's so basic that it's a no-brainer. A "mailstream driver" in the sense of Pine's internals refers to reading email. Posting is a different issue. NNTP is listed because it's used for both reading and posting. Pine as distributed by UW has both SMTP and NNTP posting code. It would be work to remove it. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 18:40:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28733; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:40:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27445; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:25:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27433; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:25:25 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:24:35 +0800 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 10:24:32 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Steve Harrington Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The quality of your software In-Reply-To: <199601180106.TAA00439@solutions.solon.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Steve Harrington wrote: > I am a new and very dissatisfied user of your software. The last time I > had do deal with such conflicted software was in the early 80's at Control > Data. The level of inconsistency between command sets in different screens, > editors, functions etc is unbelievable and unacceptable. If I ever have the > opportunity to offer an opinion to another unfortunate user about Pine, > your development team or the quality of software products licensed from the > University of Washington, please know where I stand. For you to inflict > this software on as you say: "literally millions of people around the > world, and thousands more every day" is dishonest. You should include in > your FAQ a method for users to replace your product with something that > actually works. Wow....my first thought was that you must be working for the competition. But, I thought about it a bit more and came to the conclusion that that could not be the case. You may not be aware of this, but "pine" is a *freely* distributed email UA. It was written at the University of Washington for use at the U. The individuals working on the "pine" team work for the U. It was decided to release the software *freely* for anyone to use *as they choose*. I searched the pine source and was unable to find the quote you cite. I was able to find, "There are now hundreds of thousands of Pine users in over 40 countries". So, maybe you have exaggerated slightly? In any case, you are free to use pine if you wish. If you don't like it....then you don't have to use it. So, I doubt the term "inflict" is appropriate. This mailing list and newsgroup serves as a vehicle for people to discuss pine. The people on this list generally discuss the good points, bad points, and offer constructive criticism on pine. I'm sure if you take the time to draw up a list of the problems you have experienced the folks of this list and the U would be most happy to consider what you have to say. You do point out that you are a "new" user of pine. I would think that also means you are new to this newsgroup/list. If that is the case you are unaware that the "Pine Team" is open to suggestion from the user communitiy. This is true, even if the Internet user community is not the ones paying their salaries. (Please note: "open to suggestion" does not mean that they will implement features or change the behaviour of pine solely on the comments/request of a single individual. The fact that they may decide against your suggestion does not imply that they did not consider your proposal.) However, if you feel you there is no hope for pine and nothing you can contribute will help to fix the problems then you should switch to a different and better user agent. And, by all means, let the other around you know about it. People should be happy with their user agents. And, if fact, many people are very happy with pine. But, what do I know? I'm working for that other horrible company. Oh, BTW, when you were unhappy with Control Data's software did you submit a PSR (Programming Systems Report)? Good Luck.... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 18:44:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28854; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:44:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27614; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:36:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27608; Wed, 17 Jan 96 18:36:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tckCs-0001HD-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 18:36:06 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: he@physics.uq.oz.au (Hao He) Subject: Any good reliable graphical mail manager? Date: 18 Jan 1996 01:06:08 GMT Message-Id: <4dk6e0$o5q@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Status: O X-Status: I am now seeking a good reliable graphical mail manager so I can handle thousands of emails everyday. Idealy, I should be open many emails in many different windows at the same time and do all editing work. Any information is greatly appreciated. Hao ----------------------------------------------------- Department of Physics Tel: +61-7-33782897 The University of Queensland Fax: +61-7-33651242 St. Lucia Australia 4072 Email: he@wilson.physics.uq.oz.au ...................................................... Whenever I hear anyone arguing for slavery, I feel a strong impulse to see it tried on him personally. -- A. Lincoln ------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 15:33:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01339; Wed, 17 Jan 96 15:33:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28910; Wed, 17 Jan 96 20:03:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28904; Wed, 17 Jan 96 20:03:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tclYQ-00025i-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 20:02:26 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donnasw25@aol.com (DonnaSW25) Subject: TIN Date: 17 Jan 1996 20:08:45 -0500 Message-Id: <4dk6it$ln9@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: What is TIN and what is it used for? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 15:51:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01732; Wed, 17 Jan 96 15:51:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29133; Wed, 17 Jan 96 20:16:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29127; Wed, 17 Jan 96 20:16:39 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01639; Wed, 17 Jan 96 20:16:15 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 20:16:13 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Ed Greshko Cc: Steve Harrington , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The quality of your software In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Steve Harrington wrote: > > > I am a new and very dissatisfied user of your software. The last time I > > had do deal with such conflicted software was in the early 80's at Control > > Data. The level of inconsistency between command sets in different screens, > > editors, functions etc is unbelievable and unacceptable. Could you please be more specific? As pointed out by others, we are open to specific suggestions from everyone. > > If I ever have the > > opportunity to offer an opinion to another unfortunate user about Pine, > > your development team or the quality of software products licensed from the > > University of Washington, please know where I stand. For you to inflict > > this software on as you say: "literally millions of people around the > > world, and thousands more every day" is dishonest. You should include in > > your FAQ a method for users to replace your product with something that > > actually works. We don't have the resources to review other vendors' software. There is nothing about the default Pine configuration that would adversly affect other products. Thus the "method for users to to replace" Pine is simply to install the new software according to the vendor's instructions. > You may not be aware of this, but "pine" is a *freely* distributed > email UA. It was written at the University of Washington for use at the > U. The individuals working on the "pine" team work for the U. It was > decided to release the software *freely* for anyone to use *as they choose*. > Correct. We do what we can for users outside the U, and consider all sugestions, because we find that serves to improve Pine for everyone. With several hundred messages/week coming in, we have to scan through them pretty quickly though... > I searched the pine source and was unable to find the quote you cite. > I was able to find, "There are now hundreds of thousands of Pine users in > over 40 countries". So, maybe you have exaggerated slightly? > I believe the note in the source was written before we had a good handle on how widely distributed Pine has become. I believe the "millions of users" phrase has been used by Pine Team members in the pine-info list. At last count, we have received some form of e-mail from over 2.4 million Pine users. We don't have any statistics about how many of them are "happy" with Pine or still using Pine. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 15:14:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05593; Wed, 17 Jan 96 15:14:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01681; Wed, 17 Jan 96 22:54:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01673; Wed, 17 Jan 96 22:54:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tcoES-0003p3-00; Wed, 17 Jan 1996 22:54:00 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine to support PGP ? Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:04:43 -0500 Message-Id: References: <30FD11A9.378A@ftp.nrg.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30FD11A9.378A@ftp.nrg.com.au> Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Evan Stuckey wrote: > Does any body know if they are planning to make a pine version that > supports PGP signed and PGP encripted messages ? > > Or if they already do ? For current Pine, the appended posting appeared last year on interfacing Unix Pine and PGP. I cannot vouch for it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart Date: 30 May 95 10:28:32 -0500 >From: "Robert A. Pickering Jr." Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Re: Pine/PGP interface > For a well written script to interface PGP with Pine: > > finger slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -f > mkpgp.txt.uu Found it in my mail archives. -Rob Jean Pierre LeJacq (jplejacq@oops.com) wrote: : > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- : > Version: 2.6.i : > Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. : I've noticed a few messages mention mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. : Could someone fill me in on this package, how it interfaces to : Pine, and where it can be obtained? Are there any alternatives? : Thanks, [...] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 17 16:01:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06478; Wed, 17 Jan 96 16:01:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02175; Wed, 17 Jan 96 23:33:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02169; Wed, 17 Jan 96 23:32:55 -0800 Received: from ns.italtel.it by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16012; Wed, 17 Jan 96 23:32:38 -0800 Received: by iltwd02.italtel.it (5.65/sal-941215); id AA11114; Thu, 18 Jan 96 08:37:13 +0100 Received: by iltwd03.settimo.italtel.it (5.65/sal-941220); id AA10827; Thu, 18 Jan 96 08:29:43 +0100 Received: by ic8u32 (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11659; Thu, 18 Jan 96 08:32:28 GMT Received: by ic3ud05.settimo.italtel.it (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14816; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:28:48 +0100 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:28:46 +0100 (MET) From: Molteni Luca To: Sandra Wald Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine: blocking text In-Reply-To: <4djis0$1jdq@news.doit.wisc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 17 Jan 1996, Sandra Wald wrote: > I have the following question from an user. I have not gotten an answer on my own. > > > One more question: Would you tell me how to select the text to cut > and paste in PINE? CTRL+K cut only the line, and I would like to know > how to select more than one line (or part of the line). > > Thanks in advance, > > Sandra > > > > -- > Sandra J. Wald > swald@ssc.wisc.edu > (608) 265-4922 > You can cut/paste more than one line at a time in the Composer. Use the "^^ Mark" command (that's the Ctrl-^ key) to set a "mark" at the beginning or end of the composed text you wish to delete or move, then move the cursor to the other end of the block of text to be "cut". Now you can use the Ctrl-K key to cut the selected text. Have a :-) day, Luke ============================================================ Luca Molteni molteni@ic8wd2.settimo.italtel.it Italtel Sit Castelletto di Settimo Milanese Milano - Italy ============================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 01:08:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09672; Thu, 18 Jan 96 01:08:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06480; Thu, 18 Jan 96 01:59:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06468; Thu, 18 Jan 96 01:59:39 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:55:21 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA27033; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:55:03 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:55:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: DonnaSW25 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: TIN In-Reply-To: <4dk6it$ln9@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: "Tin" is a program for reading and posting articles to Usenet News (a sort of world0wide bulletin board system). Tin is a dedicated news handling program. However other programs now offer you the ability to read and post news articles too. For example some World-Wide Web browsers (such as Lynx and Netscape Navigator) and, of course, Pine. If you want to find out more about reading/posting Usenet News articles from Pine then this is the place to ask. If you are more interested in Tin in particular you should try the "news.software.readers" newsgroup. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 17 Jan 1996, DonnaSW25 wrote: > What is TIN and what is it used for? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 00:40:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10419; Thu, 18 Jan 96 00:40:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04498; Thu, 18 Jan 96 02:41:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04492; Thu, 18 Jan 96 02:41:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tcrmf-00063i-00; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 02:41:33 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Carlos_P-P Subject: Set defaults to sent mail - PINE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:31:17 GMT Status: O X-Status: In my old e_mail system i could define a specific mail folder to a full names or a nick name address. So any time i sent a mail to, say, Michel that mail was saved not in the default folder Sent-mail but in another folder named IMP Any idea to do it with Pine? CArlos ________________________________________________________________________ Carlos Pinto-Pereira _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ CERN AT/IC _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 1211 Geneve 23 - CH _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tel: (022) 767 43 25 _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ \ _/_/ _/ _/ \ _/ _/ e_mail - Pinto-Pereira@cern.ch Url - http://nicewww.cern.ch/~pintopc/welcome.htm "La culture c'est ce qui reste quand on a tout oublie" ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 00:45:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10567; Thu, 18 Jan 96 00:45:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07041; Thu, 18 Jan 96 02:46:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07035; Thu, 18 Jan 96 02:46:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tcrrE-000652-00; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 02:46:16 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chen5@fas.harvard.edu (Christian Chen) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: 18 Jan 1996 09:26:43 GMT Message-Id: <4dl3oj$1aq@decaxp.harvard.edu> References: <4dga9q$h4q@twonky.btv.ibm.com> Status: O X-Status: Dale Pontius (pontius@twonky.btv.ibm.com) wrote: : I don't see smtp here. Is that so basic it's a no-brainer, or is it : missing. My provider has pop3 to deliver mail to me, but I use smtp : to send it. It supports smtp, in fact asks you for the smtp server. Christian Chen : Thanks, : Dale Pontius : (NOT speaking for IBM) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 01:08:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11107; Thu, 18 Jan 96 01:08:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04751; Thu, 18 Jan 96 03:04:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04745; Thu, 18 Jan 96 03:04:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tcs8V-0006Ef-00; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 03:04:07 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chen5@fas.harvard.edu (Christian Chen) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: 18 Jan 1996 09:30:35 GMT Message-Id: <4dl3vr$1aq@decaxp.harvard.edu> References: <4deqov$q6j@phobos.Candle.Com> Status: O X-Status: Ralph Goers (rgoer@rgoer.candle.com) wrote: : It took me quite a while to determine that in order to access your inbox : using IMAP you must specify it as {imap.host/imap}inbox. The doc implies : that /imap is not needed. Most of the problems you have are problems configuring it correctly, not problems with PINE per se. I use: {imap.host.domain.}INBOX and it works just fine. : I also tried setting my sentmail folder to {imap.host/imap}sentmail. This : doesn't work so I can't access any folders which are managed by IMAP. : However, you can do {imap.host}sentmail, which creates a sentmail file in : your home directory, but that is not how an IMAP client is suppossed to : create remote folders. I use {imap.host.domain.}mail/sent-mail To access the folder collections I have on the server, i use {imap.host.domain}mail/[] Of course, I already had been using pine via a telnet account, so perhaps things were set up a little easier for me. But I don't see why you should have any problems reading your folders or having your sent-mail configured correctly. It's just a matter of discovering the correct syntax. The other problems are wierd. Haven't experienced them, but also haven't been in a position to experience them. Christian Chen : The worst bug seems to be that when I only have 1 new message in the inbox I : can see that I have one message but I cannot access it. When a second : message arrives I can then see both. : When I deleted messages, if I did not "expunge" them then the messages sit in : the inbox marked deleted. If I exit Pine and then restart it the messages : still show as in the inbox, but without header information and are not : accessable. Worse, they can't be expunged by Pine (although Simeon was able : to delete them). : The annoyances: Esc should take you back one level. It's not a PM app. : Although a mouse "pointer" shows up, it apparently doesn't do anything. : Pine is MUCH faster than Simeon, but since I can't access my remote folders : (other than the inbox) and it can't read my inbox with only one message in it : (a frequent occurance - I move them to other folders), I'm pretty much stuck. : Ralph From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 00:47:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12545; Thu, 18 Jan 96 00:47:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05273; Thu, 18 Jan 96 03:44:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05267; Thu, 18 Jan 96 03:44:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tcslh-0006e6-00; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 03:44:37 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:57:59 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I have just managed to download this (problems with X-atlantic bandwidth earlier this week stopped me doing it before). At first glance it seems to work beautifully. Only one gripe .. no nice pine icon. (:-)) On Sun, 14 Jan 1996, David Nugent wrote: > The long-awaited OS/2 port of the Pine mail/news reader version 3.91 has > been uploaded to hobbes.nmsu.edu in /incoming as pine391.zip. > > -- README.OS2 -- > > This is a port of the Pine 3.91 mail user agent to OS/2 32-bit > compiled with the emx 0.09b development system, gcc 2.7.2. This > includes only the mail UA client and the pico editor, no imapd. > > Notes on the OS/2 version of Pine: > > . This is a text mode only version of Pine. > > . Like the PC & Windows versions, this version of Pine is intended > to be run primarily as a network client. > > . The following client mailstream drivers are supported by Pine-OS2: > > imap,nntp,pop3,bezrk,tenex,dawz,dummy > > This is the same as PC-Pine, with the addition of pop3. > To enable pop3 over a network link, use the folder > specification: > > {site.domain/pop3}INBOX > > The pop3 driver has not been extensively tested, however. > > . The "alternate editor" command is active in this version via > the ^_ key. > > . The spell checker is enabled, by default calling gnu ispell. > Internal spell checking facilities are disabled in Pine, so > the spell checker itself must provide the interface (as is > the case with ispell). The "SPELL" environment variable > can specify an alternative spell checking program. > > . All help is included within the executable itself. > > . The mouse is enabled and working under OS/2 to the same > extent as that available under Windows/MSDOS; ie. it works > for some functions but does not include anything very advanced. > > . Unlike the PC versions of Pine, the addressbook functions work. > > . Attempts have been made to ensure that all files produced and > used by Pine conform to 8.3 mapping of the FAT filesystem. It > has not, however, been tested on FAT. Needless to say, the HPFS > filesystem is fully supported. > > . The pipe command '|' is enabled and functional. Avoid piping > mail to any interactive command, however - it will not work. > > . Printing has not been tested. For expedience, the UNIX model of > piping output to a command has been used. You may like to use > the OS/2 port of the BSD lpr command or similar, or pipe to any > other command according to preference. > > . Pine-OS2 maps itself to the current display mode, adapting to > the current screen size to suit. > > . Pine-OS2 provides 16 foreground colours and 8 background colors > to select from (rather than 8 and 8 with PC-Pine). > > . This version of pine is fully UNIX shell aware, and uses the > SHELL environment variable in preference to COMSPEC when spawning > other process. This was tested with the csh and ksh ports. > > . Debugging is not enabled. > > INSTALLATION > > Requirements: OS/2 2.x with TCPIP 2.0 or later installed (IBM's IAK is > fine). emx.dll version 0.09b or later placed somewhere in the LIBPATH. > > Set the HOME environment variable in your CONFIG.SYS to a directory you wish > to use for a work area. Reboot. Move Pine.exe (and optionally Pico.exe) to > any directory in the system PATH. Set the TMP and/or TEMP directory to point > to a directory to be used for temporary files. NOTE: This directory must > exist prior running pine or bad things may result. You may use the PINERC > environment variable to point to an alternative configuration file if > necessary. > > Run Pine. Follow the directions presented, and before doing anything else > you should select S)etup C)onfigure and run through all configuration items > and preferences. You may have to exit and restart to access folders. > > Read the documentation for further information. Note the syntax of setting > up network folders, folder collections and so on: > > Network folder: {site.domain}path > News collection: News *{site.domain}[] > > If you specify 'INBOX' as path, this is magic for the inbound mailbox on the > specified server. Note that over a 14.4K link I've had more luck with using > imap to read news than nntp from a performance point of view. NNTP seems > very slow - imap works better. To set this up: > > NNTP-Server: site.domain > News Collection: News *{site.domain/imap}[] > > imapd needs to be running on the news server, and you need to have an > account on that machine, of course, otherwise nntp must be used. > Irrespective of which method you use to read mail, nntp is still used for > posting, hence the requirement for the nntp server name. > > Enjoy! > > > Port by David Nugent (davidn@unique.blaze.net.au) > > > David Nugent, davidn@unique.blaze.net.au, 3:632/348@fidonet > Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia > +61-3-9791-9547 Bbs/Fax +61-3-9792-3507 > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 00:10:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14486; Thu, 18 Jan 96 00:10:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09381; Thu, 18 Jan 96 05:37:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09375; Thu, 18 Jan 96 05:37:50 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA27414; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 07:37:40 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 07:37:40 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Steve Harrington Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The quality of your software In-Reply-To: <199601180106.TAA00439@solutions.solon.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: How about getting over your unwillingness to learn a product which you DON'T have to pay for! You evidentally haven't looked at what else is available! My users were thrilled the day I installed pine and have had nothing but good things to say since. If you are having problems with the product, it is more likely that your provider has crippled some functions to keep you from shooting yourself right squarely in the head! Jim Esten Sys Admin, Cardinal Stritch College Technical Consultant, Computer Power Group ...and a big pine fan! On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Steve Harrington wrote: > I am a new and very dissatisfied user of your software. The last time I > had do deal with such conflicted software was in the early 80's at Control > Data. The level of inconsistency between command sets in different screens, > editors, functions etc is unbelievable and unacceptable. If I ever have the > opportunity to offer an opinion to another unfortunate user about Pine, > your development team or the quality of software products licensed from the > University of Washington, please know where I stand. For you to inflict > this software on as you say: "literally millions of people around the > world, and thousands more every day" is dishonest. You should include in > your FAQ a method for users to replace your product with something that > actually works. > > Steve Harrington > stevehar@solon.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 00:27:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14868; Thu, 18 Jan 96 00:27:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07135; Thu, 18 Jan 96 05:59:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07129; Thu, 18 Jan 96 05:59:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tcurv-0007kF-00; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 05:59:12 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@evo.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: TIN Date: 18 Jan 1996 11:02:07 GMT Message-Id: <4dl9bf$j6m@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4dk6it$ln9@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <4dk6it$ln9@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, donnasw25@aol.com (DonnaSW25) writes: >What is TIN and what is it used for? Netnews-reader. Reading news. Margrete (DoD#8925, BB#3, UiOMC#0) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 00:33:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15062; Thu, 18 Jan 96 00:33:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09722; Thu, 18 Jan 96 06:03:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09716; Thu, 18 Jan 96 06:03:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #2) id E0tcuve-00001c-00; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 06:03:02 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Uploading Text Files Date: 17 Jan 1996 15:17:26 GMT Message-Id: <4dj3u6$e67@guava.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Seth Rogovoy (rogovoy@loomis) wrote: : I'm brand new to PINE. I've found it incredibly user-friendly, but I have : run into my first brick wall -- can someone PLEASE help me? : How can I upload a text file from my computer into Pine? More : specifically, how can I upload a file into a message I want to send? You don't upload directly into pine. First upload the text file and give it a filename (e.g. upload1). There will now be a file 'upload1' in your home directory on your unix server. Then when in pine compose (or reply) mode, with the cursor at the point where you want to insert the file, press ^R (control + r) then type the filename (upload1) press enter and it should appear. : I've tried, while in composing mode, to upload using my communications : software (which is PROCOMM-PLUS), using XMODEM, YMODEM and ASCII options. : None have worked. (My software doesn't have ZMODEM, so please don't tell : me that's what I need.) See above, you have to be out of pine to do the upload. You may be able to temporarily suspend pine with ^Z if you have that option enabled. : I realize this may not be a PINE question but rather a UNIX question, but : I don't really know what I'm talking about here, as you can probably : tell. Please help or point me the way towards help. Thanks a lot. PS upload it as a binary file ... yes I know it's text, but do it. BYE Hope this helps. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ cc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 01:08:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15988; Thu, 18 Jan 96 01:08:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07595; Thu, 18 Jan 96 06:32:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aurora.cstp.umkc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07589; Thu, 18 Jan 96 06:32:40 -0800 Received: by aurora.cstp.umkc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20Dec94-0832AM) id AA25488; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:32:34 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:32:34 -0600 (CST) From: Anuj Agrawal To: Steve Harrington Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The quality of your software In-Reply-To: <199601180106.TAA00439@solutions.solon.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Dear sir, i'm afraid i have to disagree with your comments. I work in a university where i have contact with new users day in day out. We have 2 different email UAs, one is VMS MAIL, and the other is Pine. After introducing Pine to everyone i meet (and this averages 10 per day), they love Pine so much that they can't get enough of it. VMS MAIL gets chucked out the window. Pine has always been preferred. Please give it a chance and you will (hopefully) love it too. 8) .. LONG LIVE PINE ! 8) have a good one. 8) nuj. On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Steve Harrington wrote: > I am a new and very dissatisfied user of your software. The last time I > had do deal with such conflicted software was in the early 80's at Control > Data. The level of inconsistency between command sets in different screens, > editors, functions etc is unbelievable and unacceptable. If I ever have the > opportunity to offer an opinion to another unfortunate user about Pine, > your development team or the quality of software products licensed from the > University of Washington, please know where I stand. For you to inflict > this software on as you say: "literally millions of people around the > world, and thousands more every day" is dishonest. You should include in > your FAQ a method for users to replace your product with something that > actually works. > Steve Harrington > stevehar@solon.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 00:16:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16453; Thu, 18 Jan 96 00:16:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07830; Thu, 18 Jan 96 06:49:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07820; Thu, 18 Jan 96 06:49:06 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:41:34 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id NAA05961; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:40:54 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:40:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Carlos_P-P Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Set defaults to sent mail - PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: 1. Go into Pine's Address Book. 2. If necessary add an entry for the person. 3. Edit the entry (E). 4. Look at menu at bottom of screen. Select default-fcc field. 5. Give foldername for this field. Whenever you send a message to that nickname, or to the _exact_ full e-mail address, your outgoing message should get recorded in the nominated folder. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Carlos_P-P wrote: > In my old e_mail system i could define a specific mail folder to a full > names or a nick name address. So any time i sent a mail to, say, > Michel that mail was saved not in the default folder Sent-mail but in > another folder named IMP > > Any idea to do it with Pine? > CArlos > ________________________________________________________________________ > Carlos Pinto-Pereira > _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ CERN AT/IC > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ 1211 Geneve 23 - CH > _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Tel: (022) 767 43 25 > _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/ _/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ > _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/_ _/ > _/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_ _/ _/ _/_/ _/ \ _/_/ _/ _/ \ _/ _/ > e_mail - Pinto-Pereira@cern.ch > Url - http://nicewww.cern.ch/~pintopc/welcome.htm > > "La culture c'est ce qui reste quand on a tout oublie" > ________________________________________________________________________ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 00:34:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17070; Thu, 18 Jan 96 00:34:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10691; Thu, 18 Jan 96 07:09:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10685; Thu, 18 Jan 96 07:09:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #3) id E0tcvxM-0000fT-00; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 07:08:52 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: POLCHER Jan Subject: ISO-8859-1 character set and the keyboard Date: 18 Jan 1996 11:02:39 GMT Message-Id: <4dl9cf$kqd@nef.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Hi, I am using accents and other extras from the ISO-8859-1 character set in PINE but only through keys I have defined. This has its limits because there are not sufficient keys you can redefine (it will not cover all the accents and german umlauts). With Emacs I am able to use the compose key (or multy_key) to access all the special characters. Is this possible with PINE ? How would one do it ? Thanks for any help Jan --- Jan Polcher TEL: -33-1-44322243 Laboratoire de Météorologie Dynamique du CNRS FAX: -33-1-43368392 École Normale Supérieure 24, rue Lhomond 75231 PARIS cedex 05, FRANCE http://www.lmd.ens.fr/~polcher/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 00:38:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19603; Thu, 18 Jan 96 00:38:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11963; Thu, 18 Jan 96 08:15:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11957; Thu, 18 Jan 96 08:15:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.36 #6) id E0tcwzk-0001Nr-00; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:15:24 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 12:45:50 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4dj24d$iv1@netnews.upenn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dj24d$iv1@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 17 Jan 1996 mkeintz@.MISSING-HOST-NAME. wrote: > In , David Nugent writes: > >The long-awaited OS/2 port of the Pine mail/news reader version 3.91 has > >been uploaded to hobbes.nmsu.edu in /incoming as pine391.zip. > > > I installed PINE for OS/2 on my Warp/connect machine. BUT ... it sucks up all > available cycles, even when doing no more that waiting for keyboard input. > This is indicated both by very balky behavior (i.e. bringing another window to > the foreground may take 30 seconds to a minute), and buy the Pulse cpu > monitor that comes with Warp. > I just copied the pinerc's I had existing, and am running is on Warp (with TCPIP 2.0, not connect) and have no troubls or large CPU consumption. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 01:02:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20819; Thu, 18 Jan 96 01:02:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12456; Thu, 18 Jan 96 08:34:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12450; Thu, 18 Jan 96 08:34:08 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 19 Jan 96 00:33:23 +0800 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 00:33:21 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: POLCHER Jan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 character set and the keyboard In-Reply-To: <4dl9cf$kqd@nef.ens.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 18 Jan 1996, POLCHER Jan wrote: > I am using accents and other extras from the ISO-8859-1 character set in PINE > but only through keys I have defined. This has its limits because there are > not sufficient keys you can redefine (it will not cover all the accents and > german umlauts). > > With Emacs I am able to use the compose key (or multy_key) to access all the > special characters. Is this possible with PINE ? How would one do it ? > > Thanks for any help Something you may want to try is setting up pine to use an alternate editor. You can do this in the setup/config menu. You can set either: [X] enable-alternate-editor-cmd or [X] enable-alternate-editor-implicitly and editor = path to emacs. See the help in the config menu for mor info on the alternate editor. After you set it up you could use emacs which seems to supply the functions you require. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMP52OlRTyFXhoe9VAQHf7wQAk7XaOxZeqGw9NDbO73PqNx/KUNA8Puyc gSDP7JoAtYBrMZagxDTix2GO/25iLLlDZ3/P3cF6WFRG+qFisstFjJbMqkpSfeKI N0oplDwb6QXTMUq47p3H7YpqmUQRoN8u7/fqLDhu8cU0fM7fo30JUmvZw7Xa/Y8C oTzAGIWiuTY= =MG26 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 09:24:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22081; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:24:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10605; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:01:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10599; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:01:25 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22832; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:01:13 -0800 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:01:12 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Joseph Davidson Cc: Pine News Group Subject: Re: Convert Pine addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Joseph Davidson wrote: > This is a tougher problem. Pine requires a first and last name, and uses > them both in the addresses and to sort the file (on the last name). The name in the pine address book doesn't have to have a comma. If you use Joseph Davidson as the fullname, then it won't flip the first and last name around. You'd lose the sorting on the last name, but that's all. > Eudora does not require these and if they are there, are there as part of > the address, such as "Joseph Davidson " (quotes > not included.) The name does not have to be in any special format. > > This means for me to convert back, I would have to do some educated > guessing -- actually mind reading -- on what the name of the recipient is. > > Any ideas would be appreciated. > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joseph Davidson Ph.D. > InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting > Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac > 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 > voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 > jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 09:32:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22410; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:32:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13110; Thu, 18 Jan 96 08:58:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13104; Thu, 18 Jan 96 08:58:35 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22757; Thu, 18 Jan 96 08:57:59 -0800 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 08:57:58 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Alan Thew Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: metamail and showexternal problems. In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Here's the mailcap entry we're using. It seems to work fine. message/external-body; showexternal %s %{access-type} %{name} %{site} %{directory} %{mode} %{server}; \ needsterminal; composetyped = extcompose %s; \ description="A reference to data stored in an external location" Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Alan Thew wrote: > I cannot get this to work with pine 3.91 (metamail 2.7) but elm which > should use all the same code is fine. > > Any ideas? > > Thank you. > > -- > Alan Thew > alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 > University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 10:06:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23971; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:06:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14437; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:40:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from millkern.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14431; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:40:42 -0800 Received: (from byrgb@localhost) by millkern.com (8.6.9/8.6.10) id MAA11001; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 12:40:33 -0500 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 12:40:28 -0500 (EST) From: Byrg Bonnelycke To: pine-info Subject: Re: The quality of your software In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, to Steve Harrington: I have been using Pine for a very long time. It is an excellent e-mail program! I admit it takes a little effort to learn the advanced features, like 1) using a .forward file with the UNIX filter() function to direct incoming mail AUTOMATIALLY to some of your Pine folders as well as to other I'net addresses; 2) using Pine to retrieve selected Usenet Newsgroups AUTOMATICALLY. But cheer up! If you track this mailing list, you too can learn; I did. BTW, you'll notice there is a message here about the Pine archive files, which undoubtedly contains MUCH info for newbies. Also try the FAQ's often mentioned in this mailing list. Greetings, Byrg (a Pine fan!) *---------------------------------------------------------------* | FROM: Byrg E. Bonnelycke Millkern User Support Team | | byrgb@millkern.com Rockville, MD, USA | *---------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 10:16:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24414; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:16:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11925; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:43:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11918; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:43:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tcyMa-00038RC; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Update Global Address Book by multiple people Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 16:07:45 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4dedfp$9hn@sulla.cyberstore.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 16 Jan 1996, Steve Hubert wrote: > However it is that you have that one person update it, you can have > others, too. The idea is that global address books won't be changing out > from under you while you are running pine. However, there are some checks > built in so that changes will almost always be detected and occasional > changes will not be too annoying. For a global address book to be > writable by a user, that user could move it to the address-book list (so > it is a personal address book for them). They would also have to have > write permission on the files and directory in which the files are > located. > > Steve Hubert > Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle > Beware however that life is not as simple as it seems. I am using this methodology for some shared lists, using groups for access control. When updating a global list in the way suggested I find that the access is all screwed up: pine's re-writing of an addressbook seems to make assumptions contrary to what I need. I want perms =-rw-rw--- (because this is a restricted list); pine insists on putting -rw-r--r-- (because only owner should write and anyone can read), and resetting group=owner. That means that to get the perms back correctly a special script must be run every time they are updated. Ideally Pine ought to leave the perms alone (for addresslists; I can see why it is paranoid about folders). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 10:29:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24884; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:29:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14941; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:58:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hookomo.aloha.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14927; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:58:05 -0800 Received: from darkhour (oahu-148.u.aloha.net [204.148.109.148]) by hookomo.aloha.net (8.7.1/8.6.9) with SMTP id HAA05274 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 07:57:53 -1000 (HST) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 07:57:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul Ayers (Linux Pine)" X-Sender: cooahu@darkhour To: Pine-Info Subject: Bug ?? Adding folders to Incoming folder collection Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine support, Is this a known problem ?? About 95% of the time when adding a folder to the Incoming Message Folders collection, Pine crashes with basically two different symptoms. Most often I get an error message: Bug in Pine detected. "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. Attempting to save debug file to .pine-crash Less frequently, Pine apparently goes into a loop and the CPU usage is maxed. I am using Pine v3.91 on the Linux operating system. All of my folders are on the ISP's server (allowing me to use either Pine PC or Unix Pine on the local machine). The Pine binary is unmodified from washington.edu. With the abort signal, Pine does accomplish most of the task ... the folder is created on the server and the local .pinerc file is updated. The reason for massive maintenance on the folders was due to just implementing mail filtering with procmail and setting up the new collection of Incoming folders. After a multitude of failures, I resorted to a work around .. I made the entries to the .pinerc file for the Incoming folders I wanted established and created the files on the server in the directory for folders. Any feedback would be appreciated. Aloha, /PA **** Partial contents of the .pine-crash: Debug output of the Pine program (at debug level 2). Version 3.91 Wed Jan 17 12:28:18 1996 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Open failed: No such file or directory reading_pinerc "/home/cooahu/.pinerc" Read 9390 characters: reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Open failed: No such file or directory ======= Current_val options set ======= user-domain : aloha.net smtp-server : mail.aloha.net nntp-server : news.aloha.net inbox-path : {hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/Incoming incoming-folders : [folder list snipped] folder-collections : {hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/mail/[] default-fcc : {hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/mail/sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : /home/cooahu/.addressbook feature-list : news-approximates-new-status : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : enable-suspend : expanded-view-of-folders : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : signature-at-bottom : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-incoming-folders saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : lpr standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.1 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/cooahu/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Paul Ayers (Linux Pine) user-domain : aloha.net smtp-server : mail.aloha.net nntp-server : news.aloha.net inbox-path : {hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/Incoming incoming-folders : "in.acim" IN.acim : "in.cybermind" IN.cybermind folder-collections : {hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/mail/[] default-fcc : {hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/mail/sent-mail address-book : ~/.addressbook feature-list : news-approximates-new-status : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : enable-suspend : expanded-view-of-folders : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : signature-at-bottom : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-incoming-folders sort-key : OrderedSubj printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.1 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys Userid: cooahu Fullname: "Paul Ayers (Linux Pine)" User domain name being used "aloha.net" Local Domain name being used "darkhour" Host name being used "darkhour" Mail Domain name being used (by c-client too)"aloha.net" Context {hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/mail/[] type: REMOTE new win size -----<25 80>------ Terminal type: console Context [] type: LOCAL Context {hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/mail/[] type: REMOTE Context *{news.aloha.net/nntp}[] type: REMOTE BBOARD OLDTECH About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" IMAP mm_notify NIL : {hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/Incoming : hookomo.aloha.net IMAP2bis Service 7.8(92) at Wed, 17 Jan 1996 12:29:10 -1000 (HST) Opened folder "{hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/Incoming" with 149 messages Sorting by OrderedSubj IMAP mm_notify NIL : {hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/Incoming : [PARSE] Junk at end of address: @pixi.com IMAP 12:41 1/17 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /home/cooahu/.pine-interrupted-mail - mailcap_free - [operational path snipped] === folder_screen called ==== - mailcap_free - ---- FOLDER SCREEN ---- IMAP 14:0 1/17 mm_log babble: nuhou.aloha.net InterNetNews NNRP server INN 1.4 22-Dec-93 ready (posting ok). IMAP 14:4 1/17 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /u3/cooahu/mail/IN.diabetes IMAP 14:4 1/17 mm_log babble: Create of mailbox outside context: {hookomo.aloha.net}/u3/cooahu/mail/IN.diabetes IMAP 14:4 1/17 mm_log babble: CREATE completed about to end_tty_driver Pine Panic: Received abort signal save_debug_on_crash: Version 3.91: debug level 2 : Wed Jan 17 14:04:29 1996 Attempting to save debug file to /home/cooahu/.pine-crash **** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 09:44:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25792; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:44:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15997; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:29:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15989; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:28:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tcz08-00038RC; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larry@austin.ibm.com () Subject: Is the addressbook format documented anywhere? Date: 18 Jan 1996 15:44:21 GMT Message-Id: <4dlpsl$r0c@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> Status: O X-Status: I am maintaining some pretty big mailing lists and using the interactive mode of updating the lists isn't going to cut it. Awhile ago, I reverse engineered a basic mailing list that I had, but I'd really like to know the real format or have someone share a perl package for manipulating the addressbook entries. It sounds like the format will be changing a bit with the comment field in 3.92? Thanks ... -- ==================== Austin LAN Security SWAT Team ==================== Larry L. Buickel | Any opinions expressed do not represent T/L 793-0944 | those of the IBM Corporation. IBM: larry@austin.ibm.com | << IBM Corporation From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 09:51:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26203; Thu, 18 Jan 96 09:51:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13466; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:34:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13460; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:34:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tcz94-00038TC; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Evan Stuckey Subject: Pine to support PGP ? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 01:11:37 +1000 Message-Id: <30FD11A9.378A@ftp.nrg.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi, Does any body know if they are planning to make a pine version that supports PGP signed and PGP encripted messages ? Or if they already do ? Thanks Evan. #:-) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 10:05:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27076; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:05:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16703; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:51:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccn.cs.dal.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16608; Thu, 18 Jan 96 10:49:12 -0800 Received: by ccn.cs.dal.ca id <12805(1)>; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:51:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:51:06 -0400 From: "Marsha C. Holmes" To: Steve Hubert Cc: Joseph Davidson , Pine News Group Subject: Re: Convert Pine addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi You can use any name you please in Pine...I have several with only one name as "Full Name". As long as you remember the nickname, you can always find them. I think Pine is a *VERY* good mail package and I learn a new feature almost every day! I have learned so much about the product just from being on this mailing list! I think it is one of the best. Cheers! Marsha =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Marsha C. Holmes |\ __ /.| (`\ ac573@ccn.cs.dal.ca _ .| o o |_ ) ) ----------------------(((---(((------------- Homepage: http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ac573/Profile.html =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Member of HTML Writers Guild - http://www.synet.net/hwg =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Steve Hubert wrote: > On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Joseph Davidson wrote: > > > This is a tougher problem. Pine requires a first and last name, and uses > > them both in the addresses and to sort the file (on the last name). > > The name in the pine address book doesn't have to have a comma. If you > use Joseph Davidson as the fullname, then it won't flip the first and last > name around. You'd lose the sorting on the last name, but that's all. > > > Eudora does not require these and if they are there, are there as part of > > the address, such as "Joseph Davidson " (quotes > > not included.) The name does not have to be in any special format. > > > > This means for me to convert back, I would have to do some educated > > guessing -- actually mind reading -- on what the name of the recipient is. > > > > Any ideas would be appreciated. > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Joseph Davidson Ph.D. > > InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting > > Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac > > 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 > > voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 > > jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 17:51:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03911; Thu, 18 Jan 96 17:51:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21130; Thu, 18 Jan 96 12:58:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccr.dsi.uanl.mx by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21097; Thu, 18 Jan 96 12:56:59 -0800 Received: by ccr.dsi.uanl.mx (MX V4.2 VAX) id 1143; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:56:37 CST6 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:56:37 CST6 From: sperez@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <0099C93D.A131AAD5.1143@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx> Subject: Hi!!! Status: O X-Status: Hi! I have a mail in Mime, i dont know how down in pine Tengo un mail en Mime, no se como bajarlos desde el pine. Thanks Gracias. Soledad Perez Fernandez Facultad de Ingenieria Mecanica y Electrica Universidad Autonoma de Nuevo Leon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 13:46:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05429; Thu, 18 Jan 96 13:46:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22379; Thu, 18 Jan 96 13:34:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22373; Thu, 18 Jan 96 13:34:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0td1u1-00038WC; Thu, 18 Jan 96 13:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Norbert Koch Subject: Pine freezes while trying to write to hard disk Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 21:05:07 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello everyone, we use Pine 3.91 on a HP running HP/UX 9.0x. The user data is kept on a hard disk of a DEC running Ultrix 4.2a which is also NIS and DNS server for our domain. Whenever one tries to write to hard disk pine freezes and the classical deadlock situation occurs. Pine is in sleep mode (therefore, we aren't able to kill it) and locks (a) the terminal and (b) the open with .lock. This situation is not very promising and some users get a bit upset - don't know why ;-)) This effect doesn't occur on our Linux machines, so that I'm inclined to think it's got to do something with the connection HP - DEC, though we can use elm having not the same results Any comments (flames *not* included - sorry ;-) are welcome. Send an email or post to this group. Thanks in advance Norbert ... I say - the future is a serious matter - And so - for God's sake - hock and soda water! Lord Byron From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 14:11:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07133; Thu, 18 Jan 96 14:11:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20403; Thu, 18 Jan 96 13:59:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20397; Thu, 18 Jan 96 13:59:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0td2Kt-00038XC; Thu, 18 Jan 96 13:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: douglas@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu (Douglas Jones) Subject: simultaneous use of elm and pine? Date: 18 Jan 1996 12:11:19 -0500 Message-Id: <4dluvn$e2e@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi mailers, Currently we are using elm on the system and still plan on using it in the future. We also want to investigate putting pine on the system. The problem that arises is that a person can be in both elm and pine at the same time (diff. ttys). Under elm, it locks out a second attempt to run it by the fact of /tmp/mbox.login existing. Pine appears to give the second attempt of pine running read/write over the first pine session that is switched to read only. Note that I am talking about the system mailbox in all of this. It appears that pine determines who has read/write access by creating a file on /tmp called something like '.C'. I don't really remember for sure, but I noticed that this file was 777 with a pid number in it. Is this a little security prob.? Anyway, I was wondering if any one in these newsgroups had a standard way of elm and pine locking each other out. I can come up with something, but it would be better to use a standard way if that exist. I did not see anything off hand in any of the documentation. Also, I have not seen it in pine yet, but I was wondering if it had an option (compile time) to lock out second pine session. Doe pine operate directly on the system mailbox or is it using the 'inbox' in the 'mail' directory? Might be nicer if it used something on /tmp, since sometimes our user partition is a little tight. Maybe this would be a way to have the lock out between pine and elm, pine could use /tmp/mbox.login instead of ~/mail/inbox (if ~/mail/inbox is what it actually uses). Any help would be great. Direct email to douglas@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu is the best way. I can post a follow up later on with a summary of responses that I get. Cheers, Douglas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 14:18:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07535; Thu, 18 Jan 96 14:18:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23367; Thu, 18 Jan 96 13:59:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23361; Thu, 18 Jan 96 13:59:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0td2MA-00038YC; Thu, 18 Jan 96 13:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jan Arne Fagertun Subject: Re: Pine: blocking text Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 13:47:55 +0100 Message-Id: <30FE417B.41C6@varme.sintef.no> References: <4djis0$1jdq@news.doit.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Sandra Wald wrote: > > One more question: Would you tell me how to select the text to cut > and paste in PINE? CTRL+K cut only the line, and I would like to know > how to select more than one line (or part of the line). I sort of stumbled over it - pine told me once (or twice) when I was repeatedly pressing CTRL+K : CTRL+^ -- | Jan Arne Fagertun | | Research Engineer, SINTEF Applied Thermodynamics and Fluid Dynamics | | Phone : +47 73 59 68 90 Fax : +47 73 59 35 80 | +------------ 950102 (jaf): Linuxers do it with pleasure -------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 14:25:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07754; Thu, 18 Jan 96 14:25:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20503; Thu, 18 Jan 96 14:02:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20497; Thu, 18 Jan 96 14:02:17 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19922; Thu, 18 Jan 96 14:01:53 -0800 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:01:51 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Norbert Koch Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine freezes while trying to write to hard disk In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Norbert Koch wrote: > we use Pine 3.91 on a HP running HP/UX 9.0x. The user data is kept on a > hard disk of a DEC running Ultrix 4.2a which is also NIS and DNS server > for our domain. > > Whenever one tries to write to hard disk pine freezes and the classical > deadlock situation occurs. Pine is in sleep mode (therefore, we aren't > able to kill it) and locks (a) the terminal and (b) the open with > .lock. This situation is not very promising and some users get a > bit upset - don't know why ;-)) > Are you using NFS or IMAP to access the mail? If you are using NFS, you are probably experiencing a file locking failure. The only reliable way to solve this is to install IMAP service and use it instead... > This effect doesn't occur on our Linux machines, so that I'm inclined to > think it's got to do something with the connection HP - DEC, though we > can use elm having not the same results > Different systems deal with locking over NFS differently. Some try to make it work but fail while others don't even try but report success :( --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 16:09:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11593; Thu, 18 Jan 96 16:09:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23290; Thu, 18 Jan 96 15:41:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bearcat.sbuniv.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23280; Thu, 18 Jan 96 15:41:43 -0800 Received: by bearcat.sbuniv.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA14253; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 17:51:24 -0600 Received: by admin.sbuniv.edu (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA27199; Thu, 18 Jan 96 17:41:12 -0600 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 17:41:12 -0600 (CST) From: Rick Nebel To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The quality of your software In-Reply-To: <199601180106.TAA00439@solutions.solon.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I think I would demand a refund of all the money you paid for it. On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Steve Harrington wrote: > I am a new and very dissatisfied user of your software. The last time I > had do deal with such conflicted software was in the early 80's at Control > Data. The level of inconsistency between command sets in different screens, > editors, functions etc is unbelievable and unacceptable. If I ever have the > opportunity to offer an opinion to another unfortunate user about Pine, > your development team or the quality of software products licensed from the > University of Washington, please know where I stand. For you to inflict > this software on as you say: "literally millions of people around the > world, and thousands more every day" is dishonest. You should include in > your FAQ a method for users to replace your product with something that > actually works. > > Steve Harrington > stevehar@solon.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 16:13:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11883; Thu, 18 Jan 96 16:13:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26848; Thu, 18 Jan 96 15:55:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.calweb.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26842; Thu, 18 Jan 96 15:55:36 -0800 Received: from web1.calweb.com (root@web1.calweb.com [165.90.138.10]) by mail.calweb.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id PAA20790 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 15:55:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mrcwdnbm@localhost) by web1.calweb.com (8.7.3/8.7.3) id PAA29299; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 15:55:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 15:55:16 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Weidenbaum To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: transfering address-book Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm moving my shell account from Netcom to Calweb, and would love some help on how to transfer the contents of my address book. Thanks in advance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 17:12:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15160; Thu, 18 Jan 96 17:12:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25274; Thu, 18 Jan 96 16:54:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25268; Thu, 18 Jan 96 16:54:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0td52Y-00038RC; Thu, 18 Jan 96 16:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Julian M. Gordon" Subject: pine 3.90 as a POP client Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:20:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I was wondering if pine 3.90 could be used as a POP client? If you're interested, here are the results of my investigations: My answer at this point would be NO, as when I try incoming-folders= {mail.bnbcomp.net/pop}jewels in my pinerc. I get: [Can't open mailbox {mail.bnbcomp.net/pop}jewels: invalid remote specification] The "invalid ..." says it all. What I am less clear about is whether IMAP is a superset of POP, and then I would assume that IMAP would be backward compatible. But this might be true for the server, not for the client.. So I try: incoming-folders= {mail.bnbcomp.net/imap}jewels I get [Can't connect to branwyn.bnbcomp.NET,143: Connection refused] Same for incoming-folders= {mail.bnbcomp.net}jewels Upon doing some digging, I come to the conclusion that 143 is the tcp port for the IMAP protocol and that my server does not have an IMAP server. I posted my question on comp.mail.pine, and received two answers, one was off-base, the other gave me the idea to use incoming-folders. Thanks for any help you can give me, Julian Gordon. -------------------------------------------------------------------- | /\/\ Julian Gordon /\/\ (jewels@well.com) -> | \/\/ 9411 Glen Arbor Rd, /\/\/\ (408) 335-8397 -> | /\/\ Ben Lomand, CA 95005 -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 17:30:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15614; Thu, 18 Jan 96 17:30:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26045; Thu, 18 Jan 96 17:13:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay6.UU.NET by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26035; Thu, 18 Jan 96 17:13:14 -0800 Received: from nwg.com by relay6.UU.NET with SMTP id QQzzcu15935; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 20:12:46 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ron@localhost) by nwg.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.11) id RAA00710; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 17:31:10 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 09:31:10 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Delgado To: Steven Feinholz Cc: Steve Harrington , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The quality of your software In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Steve Harrington wrote: > > > I am a new and very dissatisfied user of your software. The last time I > > had do deal with such conflicted software was in the early 80's at Control > > Data. The level of inconsistency between command sets in different screens, > > editors, functions etc is unbelievable and unacceptable. If I ever have the > > opportunity to offer an opinion to another unfortunate user about Pine, > > your development team or the quality of software products licensed from the > > University of Washington, please know where I stand. For you to inflict > > this software on as you say: "literally millions of people around the > > world, and thousands more every day" is dishonest. You should include in > > your FAQ a method for users to replace your product with something that > > actually works. > > > > Steve Harrington > > stevehar@solon.com > > > > > > > > Considering how many happy users there are, you may be in the minority. > > May be it is just you. > > But to come across with just disdain as you have will only make > people just hit the button on the email. > > Maybe you should try to be a little constructive with your > criticism (sp). > > > Ron Delgado's input on 01/19/96: Many good softwares are buggy, but I know I speak for many others when I say Pine a very good product. Maybe what would be more constructive in your comments is to give ideas on improving it. Ron Delgado Systems Administrator email: ron@nwg.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 21:07:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04488; Thu, 18 Jan 96 21:07:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03178; Thu, 18 Jan 96 20:55:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03172; Thu, 18 Jan 96 20:55:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0td8ns-00038RC; Thu, 18 Jan 96 20:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lan@panix.com (Larry) Subject: Re: INBOX folder construction, impact on existing mail.txt and mbox Date: 18 Jan 1996 22:28:47 -0500 Message-Id: <4dn35f$nh9@panix3.panix.com> References: <4d73d0$ks6@ornette.uchicago.edu> Status: O X-Status: In an attempt to gain efficiency, we decided to try using the tenex mailbox features of pine. To do this, I created a mail.txt file in the home directory of a bunch of users, which I had read was the way to go about this. Of course, now we have the problem -- for most of these users, the this mail.txt has been ignored completely -- mail comes from /usr/spool/mail/$USER and goes back there when they quit. For a few of them, their mailboxes were converted to tenex in their home directories, but now Pine doesn't recognize the mail.txt file at all, and has gone back to /usr/spool/mail/$USER ... If I copy their mail.txt to their mail/ directory, pine CANNOT open it as a folder. The users .pinerc's are indentical between those who are affected and those who aren't. /usr/local/lib/pine.conf and their .pinerc's DO NOT have incoming-folder set to anything. % uname -a OSF1 front V3.2 148 alph frontier: fran % uname -a OSF1 frontier.wilpaterson.edu V3.2 148 alph It was built for OSF1 - the only changes to the source was the 1 line "no runaways" patch. It is not running over NFS. Nothing was done to the source to activate tenex (ie EXTRADRIVERS.) I've read the thread below, and the FAQ, and done dejanews searches -- I can't find anything relevent.. Please help!! Thanks a lot! --Larry Mark Crispin writes: ... >On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, Chris Koenigsberg wrote: >> I just did some experiments regarding Pine's algorithm for >> construction of the "INBOX" folder, to report for a meeting on Monday. >Actually, this is c-client's algorithm, not Pine's, and kicks in only if >you do not specify an override with Pine's inbox-path variable. >> 2. If you have an existing ~/mbox file, Pine will prefer to use that, >> instead of mail.txt, as the place where it appends truly new >> /var/spool/mail/$USER messages, before displaying the whole bunch as >> your INBOX. >This only happens if c-client is built with the mbox driver enabled. By >default, it is not enabled in the imap-3.5 toolkit used in Pine 3.91 or in >the imap-3.6 toolkit used in Pine 3.92. It is enabled in imap-4, but we >haven't decided whether that will go into Pine or not. >The enabling is done by the setting of the EXTRADRIVERS variable in the >c-client Makefile. >> We're also considering setting >> inbox-path=/var/spool/mail/$USER >This is usually the preferred technique to get the behavior that you say From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 18 21:09:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04542; Thu, 18 Jan 96 21:09:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29790; Thu, 18 Jan 96 21:00:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29784; Thu, 18 Jan 96 21:00:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0td8sa-00038SC; Thu, 18 Jan 96 20:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: Tailoring Pine In-Reply-To: <01I02PNHMY560003LG@essential.co.uk> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <01I02PNHMY560003LG@essential.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 21:23:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 16 Jan 1996 sara.appleyard@essential.co.uk wrote: > Questions relating to Pine Port to VMS You could have mentioned that in the subject field. Now, are we talking Yehavi's free port here, or one of the chargeable jobs? I only know about the former. You understand of course that none of these ports are officially supported by Washington... > I have users that want to see the word 'CREATE' rather than > COMPOSE a mail message (they generally want to re-design the screen > and the order in which options appear). Picky > They want to add their own fields to the address-book - e.g. > extension number. > > Is this possible? Since you've got the source, everything's "possible". Is it cost effective? Is it robust against future releases? Are you willing to invest the maintenance commitment for the future? I have a couple of fixes for local problems, that are not too much effort to migrate from one release to another, but I'd still prefer not to have to schlepp them along. > Or should I tell them to be happy for what they > get. You took the words right out of my mouth! ;-) You might find something useful in my notes: http://ppewww.ph.gla.ac.uk/%7Eflavell/vms-pine.html though nothing that's specifically related to your questions. good luck. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 00:40:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08928; Fri, 19 Jan 96 00:40:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06108; Fri, 19 Jan 96 00:25:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06102; Fri, 19 Jan 96 00:25:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tdC4C-00038RC; Fri, 19 Jan 96 00:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bm71569@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca (Jamie Royer) Subject: [Q] '[Not Shown. Use the "V"...]' Message-Id: <1996Jan18.114804.7440@venus.gov.bc.ca> Date: 18 Jan 96 11:48:03 PST Status: O X-Status: Can I get rid of: [Part 1, Application/PGP 891bytes] [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] One of my co-workers insists on sending his mail using PGP from Elm. I don't care what his signature is! Can I have his mail "converted" before it reaches my inbox? You can reply to his message and it will be included, so somehow it is converted and sucked into Pine. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jamie Royer Tel: (604) 775-2879 Senior Programmer Fax: (604) 775-2880 GAEA Management & Consulting Ltd. E-Mail: jroyer@themis.ag.gov.bc.ca Burnaby, BC, Canada ---------------------------------------------------------------------- My opinions may be wrong, but at least they're my own. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 01:36:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10530; Fri, 19 Jan 96 01:36:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07003; Fri, 19 Jan 96 01:25:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06997; Fri, 19 Jan 96 01:25:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tdD2Q-00038SC; Fri, 19 Jan 96 01:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark D. Nagel) Subject: pico: setting mark Message-Id: Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 19:13:31 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am running pico 2.4 (on Solaris 2.4) and am unable to do a set-mark. "Help" says to use Ctl-Ctl, the manual page says it's Ctl-_ (Ctl-underscore), neither work: Ctl-_ give "unknown Command ...". The real issue is that I'd like to do block copy/paste operations. Thanks in advance for any insight. -Mark Nagel -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Domain: mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark Nagel) Voice: +1 206 356 6051 UUCP: microsoft!fluke!mark or sun!fluke!mark Fax: +1 206 356 6033 Snail: Fluke Corporation / P.O. Box 9090 / Everett WA 98206 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 01:36:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10558; Fri, 19 Jan 96 01:36:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03380; Fri, 19 Jan 96 01:25:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03374; Fri, 19 Jan 96 01:25:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tdD2Q-00038RC; Fri, 19 Jan 96 01:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bobby Sukumar Subject: Re: Shrinking Message Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:45:03 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4d3hr8$fs3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4d3hr8$fs3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: Ha, I hit this problem yesterday, but I have been unable to reproduce it since, on my Sparc 10. I use procmail to sort incoming mail into folders, but it can't be related to that. Maybe it's something to do with lockfile though. Do you happen to use procmail ? -- Bobby +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Informix Software Inc. 4100 Bohannon Drive, Menlo Park, California 94025 | | Telephone: +415 926-6502 Fax: +415 926-6571 E-Mail: bobbys@informix.com | +------------------------standard-disclaimers-apply-------------------------+ On 11 Jan 1996, Matt McLean wrote: | While in pine, I tried to save a message from inbox to a previously | created folder. Pine returned the message, "[Message to save shrank! | (#1:1563 --> 1554)]" and did not transfer my mail to the appropriate | folder. The number 1563 referred to the size of the original email. | | Has anyone seen a message like this before? This is pine 3.91 on a SUN | Sparc20 with 4.1.4. Any ideas why this would happen? | -- | -- | Matt McLean Systems Administrator | School of Information & Library Studies Tifosi | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 02:34:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11605; Fri, 19 Jan 96 02:34:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04098; Fri, 19 Jan 96 02:25:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04092; Fri, 19 Jan 96 02:25:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tdDxi-00038RC; Fri, 19 Jan 96 02:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: saving all messages Date: 18 Jan 1996 14:14:45 GMT Message-Id: <4dlkkl$k99@guava.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: pseudo account f|r mailing lists (mlists@cadul.de) wrote: : Is is possible to automatically save all incoming messages during : read into the folder saved-messages without explicitly : using S-"save message" ? : Norbert In (S)etup (C)onfig specify a folder name for 'read-message-folder' then in the feature list turn on (X) auto-move-read-messages. You could specify the generic 'saved-messages' folder, or make a new one called for example 'read-incoming-messages'. Hope this helps. BYE. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 02:34:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11639; Fri, 19 Jan 96 02:34:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07787; Fri, 19 Jan 96 02:26:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07781; Fri, 19 Jan 96 02:25:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tdDy6-00038SC; Fri, 19 Jan 96 02:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Pine folders Date: 18 Jan 1996 14:35:12 GMT Message-Id: <4dllr0$klq@guava.epix.net> References: <30FCD8E4.4FC9@eve.albany.edu> Status: O X-Status: Rick Inzerillo (rick@csc.albany.edu) wrote: : I am currently supporting many users on a unix cluster. I get a LOT : of mail. I find it very confusing to have all my old mail (by : semester) in the folder list. I would like to make it so I can : access a folder that has a list of folders in it (it has the list of : old mail) : Can anyone make suggestions as to how I can put these folders : somewhere else where they will be easily accessable, but not right : under my nose? : Rick Inzerillo What you want is called 'folder-collections'. Rather than giving a long explanation here, try this, and if you still need help, feel free to email me or post a followup. In pine type L to get to your folder list, then press ? for the help screen, then space bar a few times, and you will see a pretty good explanation of how to do it. Also in pine from (M)ain screen (s)etup (c)onfig highlight the line 'folder-collections' and press ? /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 02:48:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11833; Fri, 19 Jan 96 02:48:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07993; Fri, 19 Jan 96 02:43:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from techunix.technion.ac.il by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07981; Fri, 19 Jan 96 02:43:09 -0800 Received: from tx.technion.ac.il (root@tx.technion.ac.il [132.68.1.28]) by techunix.technion.ac.il (8.6.12+/8.6.10) with ESMTP id MAA00394 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 12:43:04 +0200 Received: from dialup.netvision.net.il by tx.technion.ac.il (8.6.12+) id MAA06173; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 12:43:01 +0200 Message-Id: <31000225.4EC1@tx.technion.ac.il> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 12:42:13 -0800 From: Yosi Ben-Dov X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win16; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Lotus Notes Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hello there: I have seen the msg regarding the use of Winbiff 3.2. Does this mean that we can now send msgs from users using Pine (on Unix and on PCs) - to other users using Lotus Notes - and vice versa? Pls let me know. Thank you, Yosi Ben-Dov. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 05:19:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15524; Fri, 19 Jan 96 05:19:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06248; Fri, 19 Jan 96 05:11:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06242; Fri, 19 Jan 96 05:11:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tdGX6-00038RC; Fri, 19 Jan 96 05:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgoer@rgoer.candle.com (Ralph Goers) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: 19 Jan 1996 04:29:49 GMT Message-Id: <4dn6nt$9uk@phobos.Candle.Com> References: <4deqov$q6j@phobos.Candle.Com> Status: O X-Status: In message <4dl3vr$1aq@decaxp.harvard.edu> - chen5@fas.harvard.edu (Christian C hen) writes: :> :>Ralph Goers (rgoer@rgoer.candle.com) wrote: :>: It took me quite a while to determine that in order to access your inbox :>: using IMAP you must specify it as {imap.host/imap}inbox. The doc implies :>: that /imap is not needed. :> :>Most of the problems you have are problems configuring it correctly, not :>problems with PINE per se. I use: :> :>{imap.host.domain.}INBOX :> :>and it works just fine. After a couple of email messages with David we both came to the conclusion that the problem must be due to the fact that we are using the University of Washington IMAP4 server. Apparently, the Pine IMAP server is IMAP2. Ralph From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 06:23:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16888; Fri, 19 Jan 96 06:23:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06878; Fri, 19 Jan 96 06:10:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cadul.cadul.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06872; Fri, 19 Jan 96 06:10:24 -0800 Received: (from mlists@localhost) by cadul.cadul.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id OAA20779; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 14:41:38 GMT Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 14:41:38 +0000 (GMT) From: pseudo account f|r mailing lists To: Pine List Subject: More INBOX-Folders Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, I have the following problem: I must control the incomming of emails from several accounts from only one terminal (No X-Window :-(( ). I created a folder collection "Incomming message folders" and added the /usr/spool/mail/ mailboxes to this collection. But only the INBOX is checked for new mail. Is it possible to watch all the folders in the "Incomming message folders" for new mail automatically ?.( Currently I must look in every folder from time to time to check for new mail ) Thanx in advance, Norbert =============================================================================== Phone: +49 731 937600 CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de Germany sales@cadul.de WWW: http://www.cadul.de =============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 06:36:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17216; Fri, 19 Jan 96 06:36:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07096; Fri, 19 Jan 96 06:26:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07090; Fri, 19 Jan 96 06:26:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #1) id E0tdHls-0006kP-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 06:26:28 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu Subject: How do I unsubscribe? Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 20:40:15 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Please unsubscribe. jilmarie@imap2.asu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 09:50:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25888; Fri, 19 Jan 96 09:50:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11419; Fri, 19 Jan 96 09:36:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11413; Fri, 19 Jan 96 09:36:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdKjL-00012C-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 09:36:03 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: phoenix@faerealm.roc.servtech.com (Leslie M. Barstow III) Subject: Re: restricted text editor, anyone? Date: 19 Jan 1996 02:51:23 GMT Message-Id: <4dn0vb$idj@faerealm.roc.servtech.com> References: <4d90d6$2kq@faerealm.roc.servtech.com> Status: O X-Status: Jacob C Kesinger (n9146070@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu) wrote: : phoenix@faerealm.roc.servtech.com (Leslie M. Barstow III) writes: : :I am looking for a text editor which is easy to use and can be put into a : :restricted mode which disallows all shell access, and restricts file saving : :and reading. : I don't think I quite understand. You want a text editor that can't : speak to the filesystem, as it were? Just something for people to type in? Perhaps the word 'restricted' was a bit vague. PICO, when used in PINE's 'restricted' or 'demo' mode, will only edit the file specified in the command line - you cannot load a file from elsewhere, nor can you save the one you are editting to any other file. The only outside intervention allowed in the editor is an interface to 'spell'. My problem is PICO the standalone does not have the ability to be a restricted editor. I would like to use this editor as the standard editor for my BBS (which uses rocat as a base). -- Leslie M. Barstow III | "How may I be honest with you today" phoenix@faerealm.roc.servtech.com | -Tuvoc,ST:Voyager Faerealm: the future of PBM gaming| Do not reply to FastCash or MakeMoneyFast PGP key available upon request | schemes on the net. They are scams! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 10:04:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26487; Fri, 19 Jan 96 10:04:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15394; Fri, 19 Jan 96 09:48:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15388; Fri, 19 Jan 96 09:48:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdKuN-000180-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 09:47:27 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sven Guckes Subject: Re: simultaneous use of elm and pine? Date: 19 Jan 1996 16:22:45 GMT Message-Id: <4doggl$3rr@fu-berlin.de> References: <4dluvn$e2e@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu> Status: O X-Status: douglas@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu (Douglas Jones) writes: >I was wondering if any one in these newsgroups had a standard way of >elm and pine locking each other out. I assume that neither recognizes a lock file of the other as I have never seen any mention of it before. However, I think that it would be possible if both used file locking. >Under elm, it locks out a second attempt to run it by the fact of >/tmp/mbox.login existing. Pine appears to give the second attempt of pine >running read/write over the first pine session that is switched to read only. >Note that I am talking about the system mailbox in all of this. Well, I'd discourage a lock file in /tmp as this can be local to the host and thus you can only detect it if the call is made on the same host. I'd favour a lock file within the user's account (~/.elm or ~/.pine) to make sure that the lockfile is seen whenever the user is calling the program. This assumes that the user has a home dir on the machine where he calls the program. Is this always true? Can someone log in on a host where he has a shell but no a home dir? Not sure here. The lockfile should also include the name of the host and the process id. Obviously, this makes it much easier to find the host and the process id which makes it easier for sysops to fix problems. Btw, programs like netscape and nn do just this. Example: Starting ELM on host "leibniz" might result in process id "6467" and ELM would create file "~/.elm/lock.elm.leibniz.6467". Of course both ELM and PINE would need additional code to recognize these lock files. And some code to "ignore that damn lockfile". :-) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 10:06:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26548; Fri, 19 Jan 96 10:06:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15600; Fri, 19 Jan 96 09:54:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15594; Fri, 19 Jan 96 09:54:00 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01010; Fri, 19 Jan 96 09:53:32 -0800 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 09:53:31 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: pseudo account f|r mailing lists Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: More INBOX-Folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can cycle thru your incoming message folders using TAB, and it will only open them if there are recent messages, but there is currently no way in Pine to get asynchronous notification of new mail except for INBOX and the folder that is currently open (if other than INBOX). -teg On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, pseudo account f|r mailing lists wrote: > Hello, > > I have the following problem: > I must control the incomming of emails from several accounts from > only one terminal (No X-Window :-(( ). I created a folder collection > "Incomming message folders" and added the /usr/spool/mail/ mailboxes > to this collection. > But only the INBOX is checked for new mail. Is it possible to watch > all the folders in the "Incomming message folders" for new mail > automatically ?.( Currently I must look in every folder from > time to time to check for new mail ) > > Thanx in advance, > Norbert From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 10:09:53 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26689; Fri, 19 Jan 96 10:09:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12078; Fri, 19 Jan 96 09:58:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12072; Fri, 19 Jan 96 09:58:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdL4e-0001DC-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 09:58:04 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eigil Krogh Sorensen Subject: [Q] SCO 5 and imapd and pine ? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 03:24:06 +0100 Message-Id: <30FF00C6.3F7E@aar-vki.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: We have changed the OS. on our e-mail server from SCO ODT 3.0 to SCO 5. I have compiled and installed pine, pico and imapd on the SCO 5 syetem. It looks like the installed imapd is working as it should. The only thing in that respect is that now we have to specify the exact path to folders on the SCO server (e.g. {slam}/usr/eks/mailfolders/[] on the SCO 5, where only {slam}mailfolders/[] was needed on the SCO 3.0). Unfrotunately, though, the SCO 5 system is very unstable and I can't find out why. Therefor I would very much like to know if others are using imapd on SCO 5 without problems. We also have the SAMBA server installed and running on the SCO 5 system, and I would also very much like to know if others are running both imapd and SAMBA on a SCO 5 system without problems. Thanks in advance for help -- -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ----------------------------------------------------------VKI !E-mail: eks@aar-vki.dk ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: ! Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ---------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 11:11:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29447; Fri, 19 Jan 96 11:11:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17052; Fri, 19 Jan 96 10:51:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17046; Fri, 19 Jan 96 10:51:00 -0800 Received: from duck.cac-sil.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20081; Fri, 19 Jan 96 10:50:47 -0800 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 10:48:19 -0800 () From: "David L. Miller" To: Ralph Goers Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes In-Reply-To: <4dn6nt$9uk@phobos.Candle.Com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 19 Jan 1996, Ralph Goers wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > From: Ralph Goers > Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes > Date: 19 Jan 1996 04:29:49 GMT > Message-ID: <4dn6nt$9uk@phobos.Candle.Com> > References: <4deqov$q6j@phobos.Candle.Com> > > In message <4dl3vr$1aq@decaxp.harvard.edu> - chen5@fas.harvard.edu (Christian C > hen) writes: > :> > :>Ralph Goers (rgoer@rgoer.candle.com) wrote: > :>: It took me quite a while to determine that in order to access your inbox > :>: using IMAP you must specify it as {imap.host/imap}inbox. The doc implies > :>: that /imap is not needed. > :> > :>Most of the problems you have are problems configuring it correctly, not > :>problems with PINE per se. I use: > :> > :>{imap.host.domain.}INBOX > :> > :>and it works just fine. > > After a couple of email messages with David we both came to the conclusion > that the problem must be due to the fact that we are using the University of > Washington IMAP4 server. Apparently, the Pine IMAP server is IMAP2. > Pine should work equally well with either the IMAP4 server or the IMAP2bis server distributed with Pine... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 12:00:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02515; Fri, 19 Jan 96 12:00:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18617; Fri, 19 Jan 96 11:48:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18611; Fri, 19 Jan 96 11:48:31 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05395; Fri, 19 Jan 96 11:48:00 -0800 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 11:47:58 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "Julian M. Gordon" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.90 as a POP client In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Julian, Your conclusion is correct: IMAP is a functional, but *not* a syntactic, superset of POP, and the two protocols use different ports. You are also correct in inferring that your site is probably not running an IMAP server if you get a connection refused on port 143. POP does not have the capability to name mailboxes; it only has the notion of a single "maildrop" (i.e. your INBOX) --hence the "jewels" name made the specification invalid. As a test, press G (for GoTo) and enter: {mail.bnbcomp.net/pop} or use that string as your "inbox-path". Note also that: o There are some bugs in the POP driver that was distributed with Pine 3.91. If you are serious about using POP, you should rebuild Pine with the current c-client 3.6 library. o Pine does not yet support offline mode, which is what POP was designed for, and what most people want when they speak of POP support. Using the POP driver for accessing your INBOX, Pine will attempt to operate in online mode even with the limitations of POP. A future release of Pine (*not* 3.92, alas) will offer true offline support. o Pine 3.90 was replaced by 3.91 shortly after it came out (over a year ago) because of some serious addressbook bugs. You should encourage your site to upgrade. o The UW imap server is easy to install and coexists with pop daemons (especially, but not necessarily, if you use the pop daemon that comes with our IMAP distribution.) -teg On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Julian M. Gordon wrote: > > I was wondering if pine 3.90 could be used as a POP client? > > If you're interested, here are the results of my investigations: > My answer at this point would be NO, as when I try > incoming-folders= {mail.bnbcomp.net/pop}jewels > in my pinerc. > I get: > [Can't open mailbox {mail.bnbcomp.net/pop}jewels: invalid remote > specification] > The "invalid ..." says it all. > > What I am less clear about is whether IMAP is a superset of POP, and > then I would assume that IMAP would be backward compatible. > But this might be true for the server, not for the client.. > So I try: > incoming-folders= {mail.bnbcomp.net/imap}jewels > I get > [Can't connect to branwyn.bnbcomp.NET,143: Connection refused] > Same for > incoming-folders= {mail.bnbcomp.net}jewels > Upon doing some digging, I come to the conclusion that 143 is the tcp > port for the IMAP protocol and that my server does not have an IMAP > server. > > I posted my question on comp.mail.pine, and received two answers, > one was off-base, the other gave me the idea to use incoming-folders. > > Thanks for any help you can give me, > > Julian Gordon. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > | /\/\ Julian Gordon /\/\ (jewels@well.com) -> > | \/\/ 9411 Glen Arbor Rd, /\/\/\ (408) 335-8397 -> > | /\/\ Ben Lomand, CA 95005 > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 12:12:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03117; Fri, 19 Jan 96 12:12:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19088; Fri, 19 Jan 96 12:01:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [205.219.7.18] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19076; Fri, 19 Jan 96 12:01:20 -0800 Received: from by dns1.intermex.com.mx via SMTP (940816.SGI.8.6.9/940406.SGI.AUTO) for id OAA25411; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 14:02:16 -0600 Message-Id: <3100150A.393C@mail.intermex.com.mx> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 14:02:50 -0800 From: Miguel Burberg X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0b3 (Win95; I; 16bit) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I unsubscibe ? Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 13:01:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05400; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:01:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16223; Fri, 19 Jan 96 12:42:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from laima.acad.latnet.lv by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16217; Fri, 19 Jan 96 12:42:13 -0800 Received: (from smidlers@localhost) by laima.acad.latnet.lv (8.7.1/8.7.1) id WAA07724; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 22:42:08 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 22:42:07 +0200 (EET) From: Andulis Smidlers To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sending message to everybody Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, everyone! How can I send a message to ALL users having mailboxes on my server (laima.acad.latnet.lv)? I'd like to do it without typing 100 or more usernames in the To: line... And how about sending such a message to users of another server ? (I don't have an account on this second machine.) Thank you in advance. This is probably not a Pine-specific question, but I am quite new to the Net, so I don't know where else to ask. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andulis Shmidlers, | Aizkraukles 21, Riga, | Surely you have got Latvian Institute of | LV-1006, Latvia | something better to do Organic Synthesis | phone: 371-2-559225 | than read this ...! (smidlers@acad.latnet.lv)| fax: 371-8-821038 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 13:01:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05433; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:01:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20432; Fri, 19 Jan 96 12:49:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from online.magnus1.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20426; Fri, 19 Jan 96 12:49:39 -0800 Received: from online1.magnus1.com (online1.magnus1.com [204.97.15.10]) by online.magnus1.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) with ESMTP id UAA00735; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 20:49:42 GMT Received: (from johnhe@localhost) by online1.magnus1.com (8.7.1/8.7.1) id VAA24802; Thu, 18 Jan 1996 21:28:47 GMT Date: Thu, 18 Jan 1996 16:28:46 -0500 (EST) From: John Hegeman To: David L Miller Cc: Ed Greshko , Steve Harrington , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: The quality of your software In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: David: Congratulations on your moderate and civil reply to a most intemperate posting. From a lurker.... ************************************************ * John Hegeman * * Maiden's Bower Farm * * P.O. Box 246 Churchville, MD 21028 USA * * (410) 836-2435 johnhe@online1.magnus1.com * ************************************************ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 13:25:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07652; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:25:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21198; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:09:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pinky.ac.duke.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21188; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:09:29 -0800 Received: from corless.poli.duke.edu (corless.poli.duke.edu [152.3.32.240]) by mail.duke.edu (8.6.10/Duke-2.0) with SMTP id QAA19077; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 16:09:26 -0500 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 16:09:57 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Corless To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printer and Screen Fonts X-Sender: tashi@mail.duke.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="12485550-32420--1263795970=:273221863" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --12485550-32420--1263795970=:273221863 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: The automated response from Pine suggested posting this message to this list. So, does anyone have the same problem, and does anyone know what is going on? -----------------------------oOo------------------------------ Roger Corless Phone (direct): (919) 660-3532 Dept. of Religion, Duke University FAX (Department): (919) 660-3530 Box 90964 Home phone/FAX: (919) 286-9264 Durham NC 27708-0964, U.S.A. Internet: tashi@mail.duke.edu "The Tathagata is eternally quiescent yet his transformations fill the universe." Chih-i, *The Profound Meaning of the Lotus Sutra* (trans. by Paul Swanson) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 16:02:06 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Corless To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID ZZ8BV): Printer and Screen Fonts When printing to a local (desktop) printer with PC-Pine for Windows 3.91, the printer fonts do not match the screen fonts, and they do not match in a bizarre way: when printing to the HP IIP LaserJet printer in my campus office (using a direct ethernet connection to the server, if that makes any difference) the printer fonts are about 2 points _smaller_ than the screen fonts, but when printing to the HP 500 DeskJet printer from home (using a dial-up SLIPP connection) the printer fonts are aboout 2 points _larger_ than the screen fonts. Is this a bug, or is there something I can do about it (other than changing the font size before printing, then changing it back again afterwards)? -----------------------------oOo------------------------------ Roger Corless Phone (direct): (919) 660-3532 Dept. of Religion, Duke University FAX (Department): (919) 660-3530 Box 90964 Home phone/FAX: (919) 286-9264 Durham NC 27708-0964, U.S.A. Internet: tashi@mail.duke.edu "The Tathagata is eternally quiescent yet his transformations fill the universe." Chih-i, *The Profound Meaning of the Lotus Sutra* (trans. by Paul Swanson) --12485550-32420--1263795970=:273221863 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = , full = home = C:\ home_dir= C:\ hostname= corless.poli.duke.edu localdom= poli.duke.edu userdom= mail.duke.edu maildom= mail.duke.edu cur_cntxt= mail\[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= {mail.duke.edu}inbox msgmap: tot=42, cur=42, del=5, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term , size=26x91, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Roger Corless user-id : tashi user-domain : mail.duke.edu smtp-server : mail.duke.edu nntp-server : news.duke.edu inbox-path : {mail.duke.edu}inbox folder-collections : {callisto.acpub.duke.edu} news-collections : *{news.duke.edu/nntp}[] default-fcc : sentmail postponed-folder : postpond mail-directory : mail signature-file : pine.sig address-book : addrbook feature-list : enable-flag-cmd : signature-at-bottom : enable-aggregate-command-set saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.1 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no newsrc-path : C:\pine\NEWSRC folder-extension : MTX normal-foreground-co : black normal-background-co : white font-name : Courier New font-size : 10 font-style : bold window-position : 91x26+43+44 ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (C:\pine\pinerc) ======= personal-name : Roger Corless user-id : tashi user-domain : mail.duke.edu smtp-server : mail.duke.edu nntp-server : news.duke.edu inbox-path : {mail.duke.edu}inbox folder-collections : {callisto.acpub.duke.edu} feature-list : enable-flag-cmd : signature-at-bottom : enable-aggregate-command-set last-time-prune-ques : 96.1 last-version-used : 3.91 normal-foreground-co : black normal-background-co : white font-name : Courier New font-size : 10 font-style : bold window-position : 91x26+43+44 ======= Global_val options set (pinerc) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sentmail postponed-folder : postpond mail-directory : mail signature-file : pine.sig address-book : addrbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no newsrc-path : C:\pine\NEWSRC folder-extension : MTX ======= Fixed_val options set (NO FIXED) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd no-enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --12485550-32420--1263795970=:273221863-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 13:28:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07794; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:28:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17320; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:13:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17314; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:13:54 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08663; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:13:35 -0800 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 13:13:31 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: larry@austin.ibm.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Is the addressbook format documented anywhere? In-Reply-To: <4dlpsl$r0c@ausnews.austin.ibm.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > I am maintaining some pretty big mailing lists and using the > interactive mode of updating the lists isn't going to cut it. > Awhile ago, I reverse engineered a basic mailing list that I > had, but I'd really like to know the real format or have > someone share a perl package for manipulating the addressbook > entries. It sounds like the format will be changing a bit > with the comment field in 3.92? Thanks ... > -- > ==================== Austin LAN Security SWAT Team ==================== > Larry L. Buickel | Any opinions expressed do not represent > T/L 793-0944 | those of the IBM Corporation. > IBM: larry@austin.ibm.com | << IBM Corporation The format is described in the technical notes that are in the doc directory of the source distribution. The format isn't changing for 3.92, the comment field is already present in 3.91. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 13:38:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08143; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:38:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21537; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:20:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21531; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:20:09 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09007; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:20:08 -0800 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 13:20:04 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Pine News Group Subject: Re: Update Global Address Book by multiple people In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Beware however that life is not as simple as it seems. I am using this > methodology for some shared lists, using groups for access control. > > When updating a global list in the way suggested I find that the access > is all screwed up: pine's re-writing of an addressbook seems to make > assumptions contrary to what I need. I want perms =-rw-rw--- (because > this is a restricted list); pine insists on putting -rw-r--r-- (because > only owner should write and anyone can read), and resetting group=owner. > > That means that to get the perms back correctly a special script must be > run every time they are updated. > > Ideally Pine ought to leave the perms alone (for addresslists; I can see > why it is paranoid about folders). > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Right, I had forgotten about that. Barry mentioned this to us before and it has been fixed for the next version. Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 13:42:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08306; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:42:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21793; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:31:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dcdsv0.fnal.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21787; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:31:07 -0800 Received: from localhost by dcdsv0.fnal.gov via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id PAA28933; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 15:30:06 -0600 Message-Id: <199601192130.PAA28933@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 1_6_1b To: Miguel Burberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, cmoseber@dcdsv0.fnal.gov Subject: Re: How do I unsubscibe ? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 19 Jan 1996 14:02:50 CST." <3100150A.393C@mail.intermex.com.mx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 15:30:05 CST From: Clyde Moseberry Status: O X-Status: send the following command in email to "Majordomo@cac.washington.edu" unsubscribe pine-info qdulce@dns1.intermex.com.mx (Miguel Burberg) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 14:10:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09624; Fri, 19 Jan 96 14:10:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22406; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:59:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22400; Fri, 19 Jan 96 13:59:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdOq5-0003X7-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 13:59:17 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.radix.net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Re: Convert Pine addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) Date: 19 Jan 1996 18:22:30 GMT Message-Id: <4donh6$2ab@news1.radix.net> References: <199601171912.UAA16287@johanna4.hsr.no> <4dob62$las_002@human.cornell.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am trying to write a Eudora-to-Pine script. If anyone has some particulaly difficult Eudora nicknames please send them to me so I can test my script on them. Ken Simler (krs2@mango.human.cornell.edu) wrote: : First, thank you Joseph for contributing the script. After seeing a : recent post about it in this group from me, Bruce Pleat of Qualcomm : contacted me and asked for a pointer to the script. So keep your eyes : open. : Indeed, going from Eudora Nickname --> Pine address book is a much : tougher problem. Joseph Davidson mentioned that: : >Eudora does not require these [first and last name] and : >if they are there, are there as part of : >the address, such as "Joseph Davidson " : >(quotes not included.) The name does not have to be in any : >special format. : The last sentence here is the key -- there is no special format, not : even a regular or predictable format. For example, my nndbase.txt : doesn't look at all like your example. Here's a few lines [names : changed to protect the innocent]: : alias ZimbabweNet Zimbabwe@mathcs.cmu.edu : note ZimbabweNet [this line contains all kinds of things about ZimNet, : including unreadable ASCII chars for carriage returns I typed in the : Eudora Note: window] : alias CFNPP [addresses of several co-workers] : alias "Joe Blow" jblow@econ.cit.cornell.edu : So first the script would have to clean things up by trashing all lines : beginning with "note", and getting rid of the "alias " at the beginning : of all the other lines. Parsing the Nicknames themselves, however, is : tougher, because if there is a space in the nickname, it is enclosed in : quotes, but if there's no space, no quotes. As for sorting on last name : a la Pine........aargh! And then if it hit a nndbase.txt file with : names in the format you showed... : Mind reading is indeed required. Maybe future versions of Eudora could : make it easier to do this. Delimiting the nndbase.txt fields with tabs, : instead of spaces, seems like a simple (perhaps simple-minded?) start. : I would also like it to be as easy to convert my mailboxes from Eudora : --> Unix (Pine or just plain "mail") as it is to convert Pine --> : Eudora. : Ken Simler : In article , : Joseph Davidson wrote: : > : >This is a tougher problem. Pine requires a first and last name, and : uses : >them both in the addresses and to sort the file (on the last name). : > : >Eudora does not require these and if they are there, are there as part : of : >the address, such as "Joseph Davidson " : (quotes : >not included.) The name does not have to be in any special format. : > : >This means for me to convert back, I would have to do some educated : >guessing -- actually mind reading -- on what the name of the recipient : is. : > : >Any ideas would be appreciated. : > : >---------------------------------------------------------------------- : >Joseph Davidson Ph.D. : >InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting : >Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac : >1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 : >voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 : >jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com : >---------------------------------------------------------------------- : >On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Svein Skjaeveland wrote: : > : >> In article : you wrote: : >> : >> : I have written a Perl script which will convert your Pine : ".addressbook" file : >> : into an Eudora Nickname file. In less technical terms it converts : your Pine : >> : addressbook to a Eudora addressbook. : >> : >> : You can find it at http://www.interguru.com/pineudo.html : >> : >> : If you have problems with the script, or the instructions, feel : free to : >> : contact me at jdavidson@interguru.com : >> : >> : >> Do you have a script converting from Eudora to Pine? : >> : >> Svein M. Skjaeveland : >> : >> -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 14:36:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11252; Fri, 19 Jan 96 14:36:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19323; Fri, 19 Jan 96 14:28:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dcdsv0.fnal.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19317; Fri, 19 Jan 96 14:28:15 -0800 Received: from localhost by dcdsv0.fnal.gov via SMTP (950215.SGI.8.6.10/940406.SGI) id QAA29604; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 16:27:49 -0600 Message-Id: <199601192227.QAA29604@dcdsv0.fnal.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 1_6_1b To: John Hegeman Cc: David L Miller , Ed Greshko , Steve Harrington , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 16:27:48 CST From: Clyde Moseberry Status: O X-Status: Subject: Re: The quality of your software In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jan 1996 16:28:46 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii -------- ditto C. V. Moseberry > Congratulations on your moderate and civil reply to a most > intemperate posting. > * John Hegeman * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 15:56:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16252; Fri, 19 Jan 96 15:56:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21640; Fri, 19 Jan 96 15:43:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21634; Fri, 19 Jan 96 15:43:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdQSH-0004aR-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 15:42:49 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: CICCIO Subject: help on pine Date: 19 Jan 1996 21:40:44 GMT Message-Id: <4dp34s$501@sirio.cineca.it> Status: O X-Status: when I use C to compose a new message it returns to main menu, and refuses to work.some body knows if I did something wrong during setup, or if i have to copy and install it from the beginning? Thank you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 17:23:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20821; Fri, 19 Jan 96 17:23:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28137; Fri, 19 Jan 96 17:13:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28131; Fri, 19 Jan 96 17:13:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdRrz-0005TL-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 17:13:27 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gostin@poss.math.psu.edu (Jeff Gostin) Subject: .procmail assistance Date: 19 Jan 1996 22:48:33 GMT Message-Id: <4dp741$po8@dodgson.math.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi! I'm using procmail 3.10, and having a problem with it 'filing' two copies of every message. I've only used it once, using the script given in either procmail(1) or procmail(5), and it's in there verbatim... I cut-n-pasted it. :-) I don't want to put it into full-blown use via .forward until I've got this one figured out, because double-articles negate whatever time I've saved using procmail to file things for me. For reference, I've included my .procmailrc. Thanks, in advance, for any help! :-) --Jeff #### begin .procmailrc ##### PATH=/bin:/usr/bin:$HOME/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/mail LOGFILE=$HOME/From VERBOSE=ON :0 c backup :0 ic | cd backup && rm -f dummy `ls -t msg.* | sed -e 1,32d` :0: * ^TODarkgift@io.com DG-New :0: * ^FROM.*FOXCHR * ^FROM.*pandie Myst-New #### end .procmailrc #### From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 19:04:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23343; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:04:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25954; Fri, 19 Jan 96 18:58:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25948; Fri, 19 Jan 96 18:58:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdTV7-0006ax-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 18:57:57 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kathy@fred.net (Kathy Bilton) Subject: assume-slow-link Date: 11 Jan 1996 00:27:37 GMT Message-Id: <4d1lhp$gh4@dec-alpha.fred.net> Status: O X-Status: Can anuone explain how the assume-slow--link feature (3.91) could appear to be activated even though no changes were made to the Pine configuration? Yesterday, all of a sudden, I realized that the highlight bar which is always across the current message was no longer in evidence. Instead, there was just a little > to the left of the current message. I checked config but the assume-slow-link area had not somehow mysteriously gotten checked. Today, it is back to normal, but I would like to know how it could have happened... --Kathy Kathy Bilton kathy@fred.net http://www.fred.net/kathy/ ......O`-o....... ALERT: INTERNET THREATENED IN POLAND http://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/psinask/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 19:18:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23534; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:18:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00116; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:09:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00109; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:08:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdTf7-0006ix-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 19:08:17 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gfarber@panix.com (Gary Farber) Subject: Limits to "cc"? Date: 19 Jan 1996 18:51:44 -0500 Message-Id: <4dpaqg$lml@panix2.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: I'd like to know what the limit is as to how many people you can put into the "To:" line, as well as the "cc:" line and "Bcc:" line. I've had trouble sending to over 25 or so people at a time per line, but haven't been able to figure out a precise limit. I couldn't find anything in the man pages about it. What do you know? Or is this a "sendmail" total limit, and if so what is the total limit? Does it matter how one divides the names between those three "send" lines? Thanks in advance for everyone's help. :-) -- -- Gary Farber Middlemiss gfarber@panix.com Copyright 1996 for DUFF Brooklyn, NY, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 19:50:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24208; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:50:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26585; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:44:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26579; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:43:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdUDI-00074J-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 19:43:36 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark D. Nagel) Subject: Re: pico: setting mark Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 20:04:01 GMT Status: O X-Status: In mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark D. Nagel) writes: >I am running pico 2.4 (on Solaris 2.4) and am unable to do a set-mark. "Help" >says to use Ctl-Ctl, the manual page says it's Ctl-_ (Ctl-underscore), >neither work: Ctl-_ give "unknown Command ...". The real issue is that I'd >like to do block copy/paste operations. >Thanks in advance for any insight. >-Mark Nagel Thanks to everyone who responded. The correct sequence is Ctl-^ (Ctl-SHIFT-6). NOTE: The manual page is incorrect - Blocks of text can be moved, copied or deleted with creative use of the command for mark (ctrl-underscore) ... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Domain: mark@tc.fluke.COM (Mark Nagel) Voice: +1 206 356 6051 UUCP: microsoft!fluke!mark or sun!fluke!mark Fax: +1 206 356 6033 Snail: Fluke Corporation / P.O. Box 9090 / Everett WA 98206 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 19:51:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24239; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:51:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26628; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:46:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26620; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:46:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdUDk-00074Q-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 19:44:04 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Oliver Wrede Subject: special .-file for IMAPD? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 23:06:41 +0100 Message-Id: <310015F1.41C6@khm.uni-koeln.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Hi. I read all the guides I could find about pine, but I did not get any answer to a specific problem. Anyway I fear that this is a total lamer question, but I do not have any clue... I want to use a remote inbox. I installed imapd on that remote server. When I setup the {the.remotemachine.name}whateverbox entry I always get a [Can't connect to the.remotemachine.name,143: Connection refused] In the technical notes I found something about that you need a certain file in your remote home directroy to allow access. But it was not written which file and what its syntax should be: "With this configuration, the IMAP server runs without pre-authentication. Each new IMAP connection requires a correct username and password. IMAP can also be run with pre-authentication based on the standard rsh mechanism. To enable this, the user account on the IMAP server must contain a valid file which grants access to the client machine." (taken from http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/tech-notes/installation.html#install-imapd) I also set the username and the password euqal on both machines, but it did not seem to help. If I did something wrong in the /etc/inetd.conf - how can I check if the imapd is running well? What else am I doing wrong? Oliver --- . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@khm.uni-koeln.de . . Academy of Media Arts Cologne . . . . . . http://www.khm.uni-koeln.de/ . . Dept. of Design, Tech. Univ. Cologne . http://www.fh-koeln.de/fb/fb-ds/ . . Tel/Fax . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +49-2203/181189 . . PGP Public Key in Finger-Info at . . . . owrede@wallace.khm.uni-koeln.de . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 20:00:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24447; Fri, 19 Jan 96 20:00:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26777; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:58:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26770; Fri, 19 Jan 96 19:58:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdUR1-0007CX-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 19:57:48 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krs2@mango.human.cornell.edu (Ken Simler) Subject: Re: Convert Pine addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 96 14:51:46 GMT Message-Id: <4dob62$las_002@human.cornell.edu> References: <199601171912.UAA16287@johanna4.hsr.no> Status: O X-Status: First, thank you Joseph for contributing the script. After seeing a recent post about it in this group from me, Bruce Pleat of Qualcomm contacted me and asked for a pointer to the script. So keep your eyes open. Indeed, going from Eudora Nickname --> Pine address book is a much tougher problem. Joseph Davidson mentioned that: >Eudora does not require these [first and last name] and >if they are there, are there as part of >the address, such as "Joseph Davidson " >(quotes not included.) The name does not have to be in any >special format. The last sentence here is the key -- there is no special format, not even a regular or predictable format. For example, my nndbase.txt doesn't look at all like your example. Here's a few lines [names changed to protect the innocent]: alias ZimbabweNet Zimbabwe@mathcs.cmu.edu note ZimbabweNet [this line contains all kinds of things about ZimNet, including unreadable ASCII chars for carriage returns I typed in the Eudora Note: window] alias CFNPP [addresses of several co-workers] alias "Joe Blow" jblow@econ.cit.cornell.edu So first the script would have to clean things up by trashing all lines beginning with "note", and getting rid of the "alias " at the beginning of all the other lines. Parsing the Nicknames themselves, however, is tougher, because if there is a space in the nickname, it is enclosed in quotes, but if there's no space, no quotes. As for sorting on last name a la Pine........aargh! And then if it hit a nndbase.txt file with names in the format you showed... Mind reading is indeed required. Maybe future versions of Eudora could make it easier to do this. Delimiting the nndbase.txt fields with tabs, instead of spaces, seems like a simple (perhaps simple-minded?) start. I would also like it to be as easy to convert my mailboxes from Eudora --> Unix (Pine or just plain "mail") as it is to convert Pine --> Eudora. Ken Simler In article , Joseph Davidson wrote: > >This is a tougher problem. Pine requires a first and last name, and uses >them both in the addresses and to sort the file (on the last name). > >Eudora does not require these and if they are there, are there as part of >the address, such as "Joseph Davidson " (quotes >not included.) The name does not have to be in any special format. > >This means for me to convert back, I would have to do some educated >guessing -- actually mind reading -- on what the name of the recipient is. > >Any ideas would be appreciated. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Joseph Davidson Ph.D. >InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting >Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac >1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 >voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 >jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Svein Skjaeveland wrote: > >> In article you wrote: >> >> : I have written a Perl script which will convert your Pine ".addressbook" file >> : into an Eudora Nickname file. In less technical terms it converts your Pine >> : addressbook to a Eudora addressbook. >> >> : You can find it at http://www.interguru.com/pineudo.html >> >> : If you have problems with the script, or the instructions, feel free to >> : contact me at jdavidson@interguru.com >> >> >> Do you have a script converting from Eudora to Pine? >> >> Svein M. Skjaeveland >> >> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 20:09:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24652; Fri, 19 Jan 96 20:09:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00947; Fri, 19 Jan 96 20:04:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ki1.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00941; Fri, 19 Jan 96 20:04:28 -0800 Received: by ki1.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Smail3.1.28.1) from mail.hanse.de (193.174.9.9) with smtp id ; Sat, 20 Jan 96 05:04 MET Received: from astrax.hanse.de by mail.hanse.de with UUCP for cac.washington.edu!pine-info id ; Sat, 20 Jan 96 05:04 MET Received: from astrax.hanse.de by malihh.hanse.de with UUCP (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4/mali-1.1) for lutzifer id ; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 03:58:11 +0100 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 08:18:06 +0100 (MET) From: Detlef Marxsen To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: News posting via UUCP? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello *! Browsed the documentation ... have still no clue: How can I post an article with Pine without having defined an NNTP-server? My link to the internet is via UUCP, thus uux is my news transport. Mail send and receive and news read work fine. Sys: Intel-PC, Linux 1.2.12, Pine 3.91 I am (not yet?) member of this mail-list, so please reply directly. Sorry for that ... Thanks a lot, Detlef. -- D. Marxsen on system ASTRAX / DD3XD / dema@astrax.hanse.de ---------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 21:35:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26221; Fri, 19 Jan 96 21:35:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28061; Fri, 19 Jan 96 21:28:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28055; Fri, 19 Jan 96 21:28:14 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25176; Fri, 19 Jan 96 21:28:08 -0800 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 21:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Oliver Wrede Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: special .-file for IMAPD? In-Reply-To: <310015F1.41C6@khm.uni-koeln.de> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Oliver, The connection refused message almost always means the imapd is not installed correctly. -teg On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, Oliver Wrede wrote: > Hi. > > > I read all the guides I could find about pine, but I did not get any answer > to a specific problem. Anyway I fear that this is a total lamer question, but > I do not have any clue... > > > I want to use a remote inbox. I installed imapd on that remote server. When I > setup the {the.remotemachine.name}whateverbox entry I always get a > > [Can't connect to the.remotemachine.name,143: Connection refused] > > > In the technical notes I found something about that you need a certain file > in your remote home directroy to allow access. But it was not written which > file and what its syntax should be: > > "With this configuration, the IMAP server runs without pre-authentication. > Each new IMAP connection requires a correct username and password. IMAP can > also be run with pre-authentication based on the standard rsh mechanism. To > enable this, the user account on the IMAP server must contain a valid file > which grants access to the client machine." > (taken from http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/tech-notes/installation.html#install-imapd) > > > I also set the username and the password euqal on both machines, but it did > not seem to help. If I did something wrong in the /etc/inetd.conf - how can I > check if the imapd is running well? What else am I doing wrong? > > > Oliver > > > > --- > . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@khm.uni-koeln.de . > . Academy of Media Arts Cologne . . . . . . http://www.khm.uni-koeln.de/ . > . Dept. of Design, Tech. Univ. Cologne . http://www.fh-koeln.de/fb/fb-ds/ . > . Tel/Fax . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +49-2203/181189 . > . PGP Public Key in Finger-Info at . . . . owrede@wallace.khm.uni-koeln.de . > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 22:07:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26972; Fri, 19 Jan 96 22:07:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28489; Fri, 19 Jan 96 21:52:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28483; Fri, 19 Jan 96 21:52:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdWDe-0000eO-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 21:52:06 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Re: Pine Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 18:45:42 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dofu9$1ls@asbe05.phx1.aro.allied.com> Status: O X-Status: On 19 Jan 1996, Steve Rifkin wrote: > My Amitcp4.0 Demo and ppp work great... I can telnet into and outside of > my amiga. I can Ftp. I can also use various mailers. I tried to set up > Pine (whatever version that was just released on the Aminet Set 2 CD-ROMs), > and when I try to run it from a shell, I get "No host or domain name set". > I've checked the .pinerc file, and all looks OK. My stack is set to 100000. > If I try to run pine from the workbench, I crash. I'd rather run it from dos > anyway. Does anyone know what and where I need to set that host and domain > stuff to make pine work? Again, my TCP-ing has been fine with other apps. > I do have a hostname and domain set through amitcp. I've tried doing a > setenv HOST myhostname before running pine as well. > > Thanks, > > Steve Rifkin > (steve@batc.allied.com) Steve, You may need to set the environment variable HOSTNAME. Read up on this section in the Pine docs. I use the following scripts to setup a nice public screen for my Pine sessions (uses wshell and psx): PubPine ------- AmiTCP:bin/login utils:psx open=Pine HIRES DEPTH=1 MAKEDEFAULT=Pine c:newwsh CON:0/0/676/234/Pine/FONT#Topaz.font/HLINES#0/NOPROP/NOSIZE/BACKDROP COMMAND nos:pine3.91/StartPine StartPine --------- utils:psx MAKEDEFAULT=Workbench cd HOME: nos:pine3.91/pine jump Workbench utils:psx close=Pine endcli I've found that Amiga Pine works most reliably on a monotone screen using classical dimensions: 25 x 80 characters. BTW once you prove out AmiTCP and PPP, do consider registering both. You will be very happy with the registered versions. Rick __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- Cookie De Jour -------------- Master: Remember that two rights never make a wrong. Student: Yeah, yeah. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 19 23:59:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29125; Fri, 19 Jan 96 23:59:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00217; Fri, 19 Jan 96 23:52:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00211; Fri, 19 Jan 96 23:52:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdY5K-0001vf-00; Fri, 19 Jan 1996 23:51:38 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Wasowicz Subject: Window size ..... Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 09:27:28 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have a question about window size or rather size of the pine window. When I telnet to my unix account and would like to change the window size, pine's window size does not change. What's the best way to do it ? (If it is possible). Sincerely, Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 02:30:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02166; Sat, 20 Jan 96 02:30:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05645; Sat, 20 Jan 96 02:19:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05639; Sat, 20 Jan 96 02:19:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdaOK-0003SA-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 02:19:24 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atstarr@unix.amherst.edu (Andrew Starr) Subject: Re: Convert Pine addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) Date: 19 Jan 1996 18:35:17 GMT Message-Id: <4doo95$chg@amhux3.amherst.edu> References: <199601171912.UAA16287@johanna4.hsr.no> <4dob62$las_002@human.cornell.edu> Status: O X-Status: re converting eudora nicknames to pine: specifically, regarding the problem of pine having slots for first and last name, in addition to the nickname. No law that says we have to make use of these slots just because they are there. Why not nickname all and just put in dummies for last and first. I may be getting the format wrong, but something like: AndrewStarr last, first atstarr@amherst.edu or you could just duplicate the nickname: Andrew Starr AndrewStarr, first atstarr@amherst.edu and leave it up to the user to edit by hand any that he/she is really concerned about or something like that. -Andrew -- ___________________________________________ Andrew Starr ATStarr@Amherst.Edu http://www.amherst.edu/~atstarr/menu.html ___________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 02:39:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02266; Sat, 20 Jan 96 02:39:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01959; Sat, 20 Jan 96 02:19:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01953; Sat, 20 Jan 96 02:19:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdaOJ-0003S8-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 02:19:23 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krs2@mango.human.cornell.edu (Ken Simler) Subject: Re: Convert Pine addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 96 18:21:28 GMT Message-Id: <4donf8$h20_001@human.cornell.edu> References: <199601171912.UAA16287@johanna4.hsr.no> <4dob62$las_002@human.cornell.edu> Status: O X-Status: I stand corrected on two points I made earlier. Thanks to Scott Gruby from Qualcomm for setting me straight. In article <4dob62$las_002@human.cornell.edu>, krs2@mango.human.cornell.edu (Ken Simler) wrote: >The last sentence here is the key -- there is no special format, not >even a regular or predictable format. For example, my nndbase.txt >doesn't look at all like your example. Indeed, Eudora Nicknames files are in a standard format, that used for Unix mail aliases (the Unix command mail, not Unix-based mail programs like Pine). One could easily append their nndbase.txt onto their $HOME/.mailrc file (after deleting any "note ..." lines) and the aliases would be there when using the mail command, which is more of a true standard than Pine is. >I would also like it to be as easy to convert my mailboxes from Eudora >--> Unix (Pine or just plain "mail") as it is to convert Pine --> >Eudora. It *IS* just as easy, but I swear this wasn't the case in earlier versions of Eudora, or am I completely losing it? Just copy the Eudora .mbx file over to the Unix box, and it's readable by "mail" and Pine. I haven't figured out yet how the message flags are handled (all N or all blank I could understand, but some of each?), but that's not a big problem for me. Thanks again Scott. Ken Simler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 03:06:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02767; Sat, 20 Jan 96 03:06:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05984; Sat, 20 Jan 96 02:52:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tigger.jvnc.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05978; Sat, 20 Jan 96 02:52:32 -0800 Received: by tigger.jvnc.net with UUCP id AA02942 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sat, 20 Jan 1996 05:52:30 -0500 Received-Date: Sat, 20 Jan 96 12:34:32 +0530 Message-Id: <9601200704.AA08440@axcess.bombay.axcess.net.in> From: hoacts.infar@axcess.net.in Posted-Date: Sat Jan 20 11:58:24 1996 To: "pine-info"@cac.washington.edu Date: Sat Jan 20 11:58:24 1996 X-Mailer: aXcess Mail (version 2.0) Subject: Enquiry on PINE Status: O X-Status: -------- I AM A NEW ENTRANT IN THE WORLD OF INTERNET. MY COMPANY HAD RECEIVED YOUR DOCUMENT "SECRETS OF PINE 3.9" AND I HAVE GONE THRU IT BEFORE TRYING TO USE PINE. WHILE USING PINE I AM FACING CERTAIN DIFFICULTIES. SPECIALLY IN THE AREA OF 'SETUP' & 'CONFIG'. ACTUALLY I WANT TO CREATE TWO SEPERATE FOLDERS FOR 'READ MAIL' & 'DESPATCHED MAIL' SEPEARTLY i.e. WHENEVER I READ ONE MESSAGE FROM 'INBOX', IT SHOULD MOVE TO 'READ MAIL' FOLDER AUTOMATICALLY, SIMILARLY ALL MAIL WHAT I HAVE SENT SHOULD MOVE TO 'DESPATCHED MAIL' FOLDER. IT WIIL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED, IF I GET DETAIL DOCUMENTS REGARDING PINE AND ALSO YOUR SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO USE PINE EFFICIENTLY. WAITING FOR AN EARLY REPLY. THANK YOU, AMIT SEN INFAR (INDIA) LIMITED 7 WOOD STREET, CALCUTTA-700016 INDIA EMAIL:hoacts.infar@axcess.net.in or infar@giascl01.vsnl.net.in From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 03:17:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03019; Sat, 20 Jan 96 03:17:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02496; Sat, 20 Jan 96 03:08:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02490; Sat, 20 Jan 96 03:08:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdb94-00041L-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 03:07:42 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: byronl@teleport.com (Byron Lunz) Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Date: 13 Jan 1996 00:49:54 GMT Message-Id: <4d6vji$19j@maureen.teleport.com> References: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> <30F0383F.58C2@nttex.com> Status: O X-Status: Joe Savage (jsavage@nttex.com) wrote: : David Looke wrote: : > : > Can anyone advise me on the best Mail Server for Windows NT? : > : I am currently running an evaluation copy of post.office and it out performs all the : others. It's easy to setup and administer and I would recommend it highly for a small to : medium size lan. I have to second Joe's vote. We've been running post.office on NT now for over 10 months. I cannot compare its performance to other mail servers, since we've not used any others on NT. But I can vouch for the robustness of post.office and for the responsiveness of the company which makes it, Software.com. -- Byron Lunz postmaster@mailback.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 05:52:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06353; Sat, 20 Jan 96 05:52:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08158; Sat, 20 Jan 96 05:38:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08152; Sat, 20 Jan 96 05:38:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tddUO-0005cl-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 05:37:52 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andreas@sunny.wup.de (Andreas Klemm) Subject: Re: The quality of your software Date: 18 Jan 1996 13:57:59 GMT Message-Id: <4dljl7$3hi@wup-gate.wup.de> References: <199601180106.TAA00439@solutions.solon.com> In-Reply-To: <199601180106.TAA00439@solutions.solon.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <199601180106.TAA00439@solutions.solon.com>, stevehar@solon.com (Steve Harrington) writes: >Steve Harrington stevehar@solon.com Steve, you are free to use another free mailer. After that you should take the time to think about, how you could improve your writing style, i.e.: to be more polite to people who did nothing more than offering other people software for free. You have not been forced to use pine. FLAME ON... And now shut up as I do, right ;-) ...FLAME OFF -- aklemm@wup.de /\/\___ Wiechers & Partner Datentechnik GmbH Andreas Klemm ___/\/\/ - Support Unix - From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 05:54:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06393; Sat, 20 Jan 96 05:54:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04443; Sat, 20 Jan 96 05:38:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04437; Sat, 20 Jan 96 05:38:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tddUO-0005ck-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 05:37:52 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: pico: setting mark Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 18:58:11 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Mark D. Nagel wrote: > I am running pico 2.4 (on Solaris 2.4) and am unable to do a set-mark. "Help" > says to use Ctl-Ctl, the manual page says it's Ctl-_ (Ctl-underscore), Try ctrl-^ where ^ is the caret (hat, shift-6) and not another control for mark. Ctrl-_ (control underscore) calls the alternative editor, obiously the ^ got formatted funny in the manual. -jeff Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 06:08:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06593; Sat, 20 Jan 96 06:08:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04579; Sat, 20 Jan 96 05:51:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04573; Sat, 20 Jan 96 05:51:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tddhG-0005l8-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 05:51:11 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vev@msen.com (Vince Vielhaber) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: 20 Jan 1996 12:26:09 GMT Message-Id: <4dqn11$rlt@pravda.aa.msen.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: In article , bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk says... > >I have just managed to download this (problems with X-atlantic bandwidth >earlier this week stopped me doing it before). At first glance it seems >to work beautifully. Only one gripe .. no nice pine icon. (:-)) > Hmmm. How 'bout a pine tree growing out of an envelope?? Vince. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH Email: vev@msen.com Flame mail: /dev/null Database Manager Michigan Area Repeater Council MSEN.COM is NOT the Microsoft Network! # include TEAM OS/2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From spymstr@www.aeinc.com Sat Jan 20 07:20:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07578; Sat, 20 Jan 96 07:20:38 -0800 Received: from mailx.best.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09191; Sat, 20 Jan 96 07:20:38 -0800 Received: from www.aeinc.com (www.aeinc.com [204.156.154.3]) by mailx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA09163 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 07:22:50 -0800 Received: by www.aeinc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07773; Sat, 20 Jan 96 07:23:56 PST Date: Sat, 20 Jan 96 07:23:56 PST From: spymstr@www.aeinc.com (The Spymaster) Message-Id: <9601201523.AA07773@www.aeinc.com> To: pine-info-arch@cac.washington.edu Subject: Security Products Annoucement Status: O X-Status: ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** *** ANNOUNCEMENT *** January 19, 1996 The BGI Security Web-site is now SPYMASTER. 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TO 55GR. $ 13.18 TO $ 26.37 BEAR REPELLANT 55GR. $ 38.79 BRIEF CASE ALARMS $ 14.64 POP CAN SAFES $ 9.48 CLEANING PRODUCT CANNISTER SAFES $ 21.94 NIGHT VISION EQUIPMENT ORION ABRIS NIGHT VISION $ 729.04 BIOCULAR MAGNIFIER $ 1388.48 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 07:43:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07992; Sat, 20 Jan 96 07:43:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05500; Sat, 20 Jan 96 07:21:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05494; Sat, 20 Jan 96 07:21:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdf6y-0006kW-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 07:21:48 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tom@winc.com (Tom Rataski) Subject: How to attach a mail message to mail? Date: 20 Jan 1996 14:15:53 GMT Message-Id: <4dqtep$q9e@yikes.winc.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way that you can attach mail messages out of your folders or include them in a new mail message. Similar to including a file from a directory? I realize that I can forward them to someone, but what if I am written a message and I need to include a message or couple of messages in what I am writing? Suggestions... Is it possible? Did I miss something in the Docs? Thanks in advance.. -TomR- -- +----------------------------------------------------------+ | Tom Rataski - tom@winc.com Winfield Communication Inc. | | http://www.winc.com/~tom 495 Winfield Way | | info@winc.com Akron, Ohio 44303-1914 USA | | Voice:(216) 867-2904 Fax:(216) 867-1482 | +----------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 08:13:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08480; Sat, 20 Jan 96 08:13:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09309; Sat, 20 Jan 96 07:33:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailx.best.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09303; Sat, 20 Jan 96 07:33:05 -0800 Received: from www.aeinc.com (www.aeinc.com [204.156.154.3]) by mailx.best.com (8.6.12/8.6.5) with SMTP id HAA09951 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 07:35:18 -0800 Received: by www.aeinc.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA08180; Sat, 20 Jan 96 07:36:28 PST Date: Sat, 20 Jan 96 07:36:28 PST From: spymstr@www.aeinc.com (The Spymaster) Message-Id: <9601201536.AA08180@www.aeinc.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Security Products Annoucement Status: O X-Status: ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** *** ANNOUNCEMENT *** January 19, 1996 The BGI Security Web-site is now SPYMASTER. Our text product/price list is included for your consideration. Spymaster offers a wide selection of covert security and personal protection products. Totally hidden video, audio scramblers, night-scopes, pepper-spray, listening devices, sweepers and sniffers. Protect your home, property, office. Everything for evidence and intelligence gathering. A full line of international products. Much, much more !! Great prices, and quality selection. Expert technical support and fast delivery on all items anywhere (unless prohibited by local laws). E-mail and fax orders processed 24hrs. See our web-site at URL http://www.spymaster.com or http://www.aeinc.com/bgi E-mail: spymaster@www.aeinc.com Phone: 1-408-437-1006 Fax: 1-408-437-9404 ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER ** SPYMASTER PRODUCT PRICE LIST (U.S. DOLLARS) MONITORING AND CAMERA SYSTEMS: THE BABY CHANNEL (COMPLETE) $ 995.00 VIDEO TRANSMITTER $ 251.31 VIVITAR SMS-W1 MONITORING SYSTEM $ 509.23 VIVITAR SMS-10 VIDEO MONITORING SYSTEM $ 476.26 VIVITAR SMS-4 VIDEO DOOR PHONE $ 435.96 VIVITAR SMS-5 VIDEO MONITORING SYSTEM $ 402.98 SD-100/200 SMOKE DETECTOR $ 494.57 CL-200 CLOCK $ 509.23 GBC CCD-200 $ 384.67 IS-100/200 SPEAKER CAMERA $ 476.26 EX-200 EXIT SIGN $ 582.50 BC-835C INDOOR/OUTDOOR CAMERA $ 494.57 CCD-600PH PINCAM $ 384.67 PI-350 CAMERA $ 421.30 MOD295PH $ 362.69 COUNTERMEASURE EQUIPMENT "INFINITY BUGS" VIA TELEPHONE LINES $ 439.62 "BUG DEACTIVATOR" WITH PRIVACY DETECTOR FOR TELEPHONE/FAX LINES WITH DIGITAL WARNING $ 490.91 HIGH SENSITIVITY TRANSMITTER LOCATER/BUG DETECTOR WIDE BAND TO 2 GHz $ 1113.71 THE SCRAMBLER $ 355.36 MINI BUG PROTECTOR $ 333.38 TAP BUSTER $ 476.26 TAP NULLIFIER $ 655.77 METAL DETECTOR $ 274.76 VIBRATING DETECTOR $ 384.67 CPM 700 $ 2747.65 TELEPHONE AND AUDIO RECORDERS MINIATURE TELEPHONE TRANSMITTERS VHF, CRYSTAL OR L/C $ 512.89 AUTOMATIC TELEPHONE LINE TRANSMITTING SYSTEM / DIRECT WIRE$ 282.09 AUTOMATIC TELEPHONE LINE TAPPING SYSTEMS / WIRELESS $ 644.78 DISCRETE RECORDING SYSTEMS FOR ROOM / TELEPHONE $ 183.17 VOICE ACTIVATED RECORDER $ 73.23 PEN MICROPHONE $ 73.23 SEED MICROPHONE $ 73.23 PORTABLE VOICE CHANGER $ 58.58 EAR PROBE MONITOR $ 267.43 TELEPHONE NUMBER DECODER $ 362.69 PERSONAL PROTECTION PRODUCTS "KEVLAR" BULLET-PROOF VESTS PRICED BY SIZE$ 438.89 TO $ 658.70 BLACK LAMP $ 21.94 UV MARKERS $ 4.35 DOOR ALARM $ 14.61 REAR VIEW GLASSES $ 7.29 DOG REPELLANT SIZES 22GR. TO 55GR. $ 13.18 TO $ 26.37 BEAR REPELLANT 55GR. $ 38.79 BRIEF CASE ALARMS $ 14.64 POP CAN SAFES $ 9.48 CLEANING PRODUCT CANNISTER SAFES $ 21.94 NIGHT VISION EQUIPMENT ORION ABRIS NIGHT VISION $ 729.04 BIOCULAR MAGNIFIER $ 1388.48 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 10:02:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10668; Sat, 20 Jan 96 10:02:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07337; Sat, 20 Jan 96 09:57:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07331; Sat, 20 Jan 96 09:57:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdhWv-0000de-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 09:56:45 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: allan@interport.net (Allan) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 : here's a gif icon for ya'll Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 05:56:48 GMT Message-Id: <4dqvhu$81j@park.interport.net> References: Status: O X-Status: I read some concern about an icon for pine... this might be of some use: begin 644 pinetree.gif M1TE&.#=A'@`>`/<``/___^_O[[^_O[^_``#_``"_```````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` M`````````````````````"P`````'@`>```(L@`#"!Q(L*#!@P@1$DC(D.'" MAA`)$B@0L6*`B18;$MB(,:-"`QL+4/18D".!`2))EN0XP,!(E1!H$$A$CTYT>91I!4YSBS@%*E0I3-#4A5I-:K) M`1.-0E4J4VI8KDG)9@5+4^Q5AV5!LJV:ENQ2D&C?*ES*U*1-O0;Y;AP0-&1= #+,RY@S:]X,,R``.VC? ` end From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 10:17:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11119; Sat, 20 Jan 96 10:17:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07552; Sat, 20 Jan 96 10:10:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aurora.cstp.umkc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07546; Sat, 20 Jan 96 10:10:03 -0800 Received: by aurora.cstp.umkc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/20Dec94-0832AM) id AA06543; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 12:09:51 -0600 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 12:09:51 -0600 (CST) From: Anuj Agrawal To: Tom Rataski Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to attach a mail message to mail? In-Reply-To: <4dqtep$q9e@yikes.winc.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: one way is to just Extract the mails that you want to your home directory (by using E and giving a file name) and then when you want to include that mail, simply use ctrl r to read in that file.. 8) .. kinda roundabout way, but it works.. any others have suggestions? nuj. On 20 Jan 1996, Tom Rataski wrote: > Is there a way that you can attach mail messages out of your folders or > include them in a new mail message. Similar to including a file from a > directory? I realize that I can forward them to someone, but what if I > am written a message and I need to include a message or couple of messages > in what I am writing? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 11:35:17 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12645; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:35:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12250; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:26:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccn.cs.dal.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12244; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:26:28 -0800 Received: by ccn.cs.dal.ca id <12952(3)>; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 03:30:04 -0400 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 03:29:59 -0400 From: "Marsha C. Holmes" To: Gary Farber Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Limits to "cc"? In-Reply-To: <4dpaqg$lml@panix2.panix.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Gary One solution to your problem would be to create a Distribution List. While in your Address Book, press "s" to "CreateList". You give it a name and then you can add all the names you wish. Marsha *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* + Marsha C. Holmes |\ __ /.| (`\ + + ac573@ccn.cs.dal.ca _ .| o o |_ ) ) + + ----------------------(((---(((------------- + + Homepage: http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ac573/Profile.html + + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + + Member of HTML Writers Guild - http://www.synet.net/hwg + *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, Gary Farber wrote: > > I'd like to know what the limit is as to how many people you can put into > the "To:" line, as well as the "cc:" line and "Bcc:" line. I've had > trouble sending to over 25 or so people at a time per line, but haven't > been able to figure out a precise limit. I couldn't find anything in the > man pages about it. What do you know? Or is this a "sendmail" total > limit, and if so what is the total limit? Does it matter how one divides > the names between those three "send" lines? > > Thanks in advance for everyone's help. :-) > -- > -- Gary Farber Middlemiss gfarber@panix.com > Copyright 1996 for DUFF Brooklyn, NY, USA > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 11:48:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12881; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:48:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08655; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:39:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from panix2.panix.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08649; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:39:45 -0800 Received: (from gfarber@localhost) by panix2.panix.com (8.7/8.7/PanixU1.3) id OAA00132; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 14:39:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 14:39:33 -0500 (EST) From: Gary Farber To: "Marsha C. Holmes" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Limits to "cc"? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 20 Jan 1996, Marsha C. Holmes wrote: > One solution to your problem would be to create a Distribution List. > While in your Address Book, press "s" to "CreateList". You give it a > name and then you can add all the names you wish. I've done that, and while I've not tested the limits of it, it was my, perhaps erroneous, understanding that this is the same as listing the names manually so far as sendmail is concerned. The Address Book merely deals with inserting addresses into the "send" slot of your mail -- not with what comes afterwards. So my understanding is that this would add nothing. Am I wrong? If so, that would be valuable to know indeed. Either way, many thanks for your kind response. :-) -- Gary Farber Middlemiss gfarber@panix.com Copyright 1996 for DUFF Brooklyn, NY, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 11:52:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13004; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:52:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08739; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:48:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08733; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:48:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdjGo-0001tr-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 11:48:14 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cm3btmij@chesterton.soc.staffs.ac.uk () Subject: Pine on a Wyse50 - How to use cursors? Date: 19 Jan 1996 19:27:03 GMT Message-Id: <4dora7$k79@bs33n.staffs.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: How do you make Pine use the cursor keys on a Wyse50 terminal? The Wyse sends out single character control codes (^H, ^J, ^K, ^V) for the cursor keys, and Pine expects A, B, C, D etc. is there any way of disabling the built in cursor key codes so it looks in the termcap file like any other well behaved program? or is there a way of forcing it to accept the single character codes and re map them into the format codes? All help would be much appreciated. Please reply by email to root@village.demon.co.uk thanks, Jester (Matthew Jenkins) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 11:52:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13031; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:52:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12491; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:48:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12485; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:48:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdjGo-0001ts-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 11:48:14 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerter01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu (The Doctor) Subject: Re: .forward file ??? Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 19:53:30 GMT Message-Id: <4dorgc$j9u@urvile.msus.edu> References: <4de9s6$lqv@news4.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: byrgb@millkern.com (Byrg Bonnelycke) wrote: (15 Jan 1996 19:28:06 GMT) ->Hi: ->Sorry! This is my second posting, since I don't know if the first ->one "took." -> ->Can you put comments in the .forward file ? ->If so, how do you do it ? ->Thanx, Byrg -> The way I understand it, only the first line of the .forward file is read, so you can put as much as you want in there. *-> The Doctor <-* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 11:57:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13171; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:57:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08769; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:49:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08763; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:49:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdjGt-0001u4-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 11:48:19 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: y/n/^C Message-Id: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 16:13:14 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- What's the difference between n and ^C in: Send message ? Y [Yes] ^C Cancel N No -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.6, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMP/DAeBu0383Om6dAQEqjgQA1/jMopZ/oaD+duFBfM2FPJmc5w7prmJM Ne9/SkVwZMP8rU1Un6xJ9LqPjPzby3X13sBR1hPRByEtlLE1cHyY8AXrqSmB5q6N b394AahdUEjzy2nQqKQlMtbQBOg337M8q1cGm4bkANUMj5P9ASbdY46iRgOnkzuq Kl3PpnvMQns= =n//x -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka 49860926614586AF "The strongest reason for the people to retain their 54105BA338FBF0FB right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 11:57:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13222; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:57:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12519; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:49:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12513; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:49:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdjGu-0001u8-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 11:48:20 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donnasw25@aol.com (DonnaSW25) Subject: Using TIN Date: 19 Jan 1996 17:47:27 -0500 Message-Id: <4dp71v$oa@newsbf02.news.aol.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Okay. How do I read/post news articles to USENET from pine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 11:58:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13317; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:58:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12511; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:49:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12505; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:49:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdjGr-0001ty-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 11:48:17 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerter01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu (The Doctor) Subject: Re: Help for pine newbie Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 19:53:59 GMT Message-Id: <4dorh9$j9v@urvile.msus.edu> References: <4dggl5$pv6@cowee.wcu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Paul O Bartlett wrote: (Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:56:05 -0500) ->On 16 Jan 1996, Robert Strauss wrote: -> ->> Two things: ->> when I exited pine, and had, for some reason, 32 messages in my Inbox, Pine ->> deleted them. They are important. How can I get them back? (Pine asked if I ->> wanted to delete them and I said NO) -> -> If you actually opened (looked at) the messages and then exited ->without taking any other actions, Pine may have transferred them to ->a saved-messages folder. Try looking for them there. There is also a setting to delete anything in the inbox when you quit pine. I lost dozens of messages before I found that. It's somewhere in the settings screen. -> ->> Second, is ther a way, in pine (3.91) to send a binary file? ->> Thanks, -> -> Yes. As an attachment. When sending a binary file from unix pine to a pc, the file got corrupted. I had to uuencode the file before he could receive it properly. -> ->Paul ->---------------------------------------------------------- ->Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA ->Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key ->Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -> *-> The Doctor <-* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 11:59:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13359; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:59:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08747; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:48:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08741; Sat, 20 Jan 96 11:48:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdjGp-0001tu-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 11:48:15 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oerter01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu (The Doctor) Subject: Re: Help for pine newbie Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 19:53:33 GMT Message-Id: <4dorgf$j9u@urvile.msus.edu> References: <4dggl5$pv6@cowee.wcu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Paul O Bartlett wrote: (Tue, 16 Jan 1996 19:56:05 -0500) ->On 16 Jan 1996, Robert Strauss wrote: -> ->> Two things: ->> when I exited pine, and had, for some reason, 32 messages in my Inbox, Pine ->> deleted them. They are important. How can I get them back? (Pine asked if I ->> wanted to delete them and I said NO) -> -> If you actually opened (looked at) the messages and then exited ->without taking any other actions, Pine may have transferred them to ->a saved-messages folder. Try looking for them there. There is also a setting to delete anything in the inbox when you quit pine. I lost dozens of messages before I found that. It's somewhere in the settings screen. -> ->> Second, is ther a way, in pine (3.91) to send a binary file? ->> Thanks, -> -> Yes. As an attachment. When sending a binary file from unix pine to a pc, the file got corrupted. I had to uuencode the file before he could receive it properly. -> ->Paul ->---------------------------------------------------------- ->Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA ->Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key ->Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart -> *-> The Doctor <-* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 13:54:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15986; Sat, 20 Jan 96 13:54:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13990; Sat, 20 Jan 96 13:45:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13984; Sat, 20 Jan 96 13:45:22 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11765; Sat, 20 Jan 96 13:45:19 -0800 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 13:45:18 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: The Doctor Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help for pine newbie In-Reply-To: <4dorgf$j9u@urvile.msus.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > There is also a setting to delete anything in the inbox when you quit > pine. I lost dozens of messages before I found that. It's somewhere in > the settings screen. Not quite. There is an option to move read messages to another folder, and one to "expunge without confirm" but that only affects messages that have already been marked Deleted. In the case of "automatic" deletions as part of moving messages, this only happens after Pine successfully stores the message in the read-message-folder. > When sending a binary file from unix pine to a pc, the file got > corrupted. I had to uuencode the file before he could receive it > properly. Yes, I've also seen an example of a PC mailer with a broken MIME implementation. It couldn't successfully decode a large MIME attachment. (Replacing that particular PC mailer with PC-Pine solved the problem.) -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 15:34:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18444; Sat, 20 Jan 96 15:34:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11829; Sat, 20 Jan 96 15:21:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11823; Sat, 20 Jan 96 15:21:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdmaT-0004Ki-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 15:20:46 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flavell@vxcern.cern.ch (Alan J. Flavell) Subject: Re: Help for pine newbie Message-Id: References: Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 19:21:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article , portia@innosoft.com (Portia Shao) writes: >On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > >> I assume that you are using Pine on VMS. VMS Pine will "move" >messages >> from INBOX to MAIL. Use the "L" command to see a list of all your >> folders, and check to see whether the message is in any of those. > >if you are using Pine on VMS from Innosoft (part of the PMDF product) >then >Pine does NOT do so for you automatically. via auto-move-read-msgs you >may have configured Pine to do it for you, but otherwise messages are >not >moved anywhere unless you Save or Delete them. If you are using Yehavi's free port of PINE, then I would say that it is probably the VMS MAIL support routines (rather than PINE itself) that moves the messages from NEWMAIL to MAIL folder when you have read them. This is, after all, what happens when you use VMS MAIL command, and the PINE routines are just calling the VMS MAIL routines to get service. (I'm saying nothing about how PMDF works here, since I have only a passing aquaintance with it at another site and we clearly have an expert on hand already). However, PINE would not ask you, under those circumstances, whether you want to delete the mails. It only asks that if you have marked them for deletion, either implicitly (e.g by doing a Save to another folder) or explicitly with Delete. Perhaps the original poster would care to fill in the gaps so that we can all clarify our answers. Or perhaps they tracked down the mails in the MAIL folder already, and are no longer looking for an answer... best regards From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 18:28:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21590; Sat, 20 Jan 96 18:28:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14063; Sat, 20 Jan 96 18:16:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14057; Sat, 20 Jan 96 18:16:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdpJr-0006U3-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:15:47 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unclebob@ripco.com (Uncle Bob) Subject: Re: Pine: blocking text Message-Id: References: <4djis0$1jdq@news.doit.wisc.edu> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 19:31:59 GMT Status: O X-Status: Sandra Wald (swald@cde2s.ssc.wisc.edu) wrote: : I have the following question from an user. I have not gotten an answer on my own. : One more question: Would you tell me how to select the text to cut : and paste in PINE? CTRL+K cut only the line, and I would like to know : how to select more than one line (or part of the line). : Thanks in advance, : Sandra : -- : Sandra J. Wald : swald@ssc.wisc.edu : (608) 265-4922 Use Crtl-^ to set the first mark. Then, use your right/left arrow keys for highlighting text in lines and the down arrow key for highlighting lines to cut. After hightlighting, use Ctrl-K to delete. -- -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 18:35:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21812; Sat, 20 Jan 96 18:35:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17769; Sat, 20 Jan 96 18:20:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17763; Sat, 20 Jan 96 18:20:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdpOB-0006WJ-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:20:16 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: INBOX folder construction, impact on existing mail.txt and mbox Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 18:40:09 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4d73d0$ks6@ornette.uchicago.edu> <4dn35f$nh9@panix3.panix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dn35f$nh9@panix3.panix.com> Status: O X-Status: There are two things to check: 1) if you created the ~/mail.txt file as an empty file, are you ABSOLUTELY sure that it is empty? If it is non-empty, it must be in proper tenex data format, otherwise it will be ignored. 2) what is the setting of inbox-path in the users' .pinerc? It must be INBOX, not /usr/spool/mail/something. On 18 Jan 1996, Larry wrote: > > > > In an attempt to gain efficiency, we decided to try using the tenex > mailbox features of pine. > > To do this, I created a mail.txt file in the home directory of a bunch > of users, which I had read was the way to go about this. > > Of course, now we have the problem -- for most of these users, the > this mail.txt has been ignored completely -- mail comes from > /usr/spool/mail/$USER and goes back there when they quit. > > For a few of them, their mailboxes were converted to tenex in their > home directories, but now Pine doesn't recognize the mail.txt file at > all, and has gone back to /usr/spool/mail/$USER ... > > If I copy their mail.txt to their mail/ directory, pine CANNOT open it > as a folder. > > The users .pinerc's are indentical between those who are affected and > those who aren't. /usr/local/lib/pine.conf and their .pinerc's DO NOT > have incoming-folder set to anything. > > % uname -a > OSF1 front V3.2 148 alph > > frontier: fran % uname -a > OSF1 frontier.wilpaterson.edu V3.2 148 alph > > It was built for OSF1 - the only changes to the source was the 1 line > "no runaways" patch. It is not running over NFS. Nothing was done to > the source to activate tenex (ie EXTRADRIVERS.) > > I've read the thread below, and the FAQ, and done dejanews searches -- > I can't find anything relevent.. Please help!! > > Thanks a lot! > > --Larry > > > > > Mark Crispin writes: > ... > >On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, Chris Koenigsberg wrote: > >> I just did some experiments regarding Pine's algorithm for > >> construction of the "INBOX" folder, to report for a meeting on Monday. > > >Actually, this is c-client's algorithm, not Pine's, and kicks in only if > >you do not specify an override with Pine's inbox-path variable. > > >> 2. If you have an existing ~/mbox file, Pine will prefer to use that, > >> instead of mail.txt, as the place where it appends truly new > >> /var/spool/mail/$USER messages, before displaying the whole bunch as > >> your INBOX. > > >This only happens if c-client is built with the mbox driver enabled. By > >default, it is not enabled in the imap-3.5 toolkit used in Pine 3.91 or in > >the imap-3.6 toolkit used in Pine 3.92. It is enabled in imap-4, but we > >haven't decided whether that will go into Pine or not. > > >The enabling is done by the setting of the EXTRADRIVERS variable in the > >c-client Makefile. > > >> We're also considering setting > >> inbox-path=/var/spool/mail/$USER > > >This is usually the preferred technique to get the behavior that you say > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 18:44:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21975; Sat, 20 Jan 96 18:44:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14294; Sat, 20 Jan 96 18:30:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14288; Sat, 20 Jan 96 18:30:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdpXF-0006cT-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:29:37 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 18:33:59 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4deqov$q6j@phobos.Candle.Com> <4dn6nt$9uk@phobos.Candle.Com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dn6nt$9uk@phobos.Candle.Com> Status: O X-Status: Pine is fully compatible with both IMAP2 and IMAP4, or more accurately, IMAP4 supports IMAP2 compatibility. If you are having problems, please send a message to pine@cac.washington.edu detailing the symptoms. The /imap switch should never be necessary. However, I don't know what the author of the OS/2 port may have done. On 19 Jan 1996, Ralph Goers wrote: > In message <4dl3vr$1aq@decaxp.harvard.edu> - chen5@fas.harvard.edu (Christian C > hen) writes: > :> > :>Ralph Goers (rgoer@rgoer.candle.com) wrote: > :>: It took me quite a while to determine that in order to access your inbox > :>: using IMAP you must specify it as {imap.host/imap}inbox. The doc implies > :>: that /imap is not needed. > :> > :>Most of the problems you have are problems configuring it correctly, not > :>problems with PINE per se. I use: > :> > :>{imap.host.domain.}INBOX > :> > :>and it works just fine. > > After a couple of email messages with David we both came to the conclusion > that the problem must be due to the fact that we are using the University of > Washington IMAP4 server. Apparently, the Pine IMAP server is IMAP2. > > Ralph > > > > > -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 20:04:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23176; Sat, 20 Jan 96 20:04:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15320; Sat, 20 Jan 96 19:55:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15314; Sat, 20 Jan 96 19:55:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdqsM-0007f1-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 19:55:30 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlindhol@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Jonell Lindholm) Subject: Re: Pine: blocking text Message-Id: Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 00:31:59 GMT References: <4djis0$1jdq@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: >>One more question: Would you tell me how to select the text to cut and paste in PINE? CTRL+K cut only the line, and I would like to know how to select more than one line (or part of the line).<< Try CTRL^ for marking the start and end of a block. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 20:12:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23359; Sat, 20 Jan 96 20:12:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15474; Sat, 20 Jan 96 20:04:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15468; Sat, 20 Jan 96 20:04:30 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 21 Jan 96 12:03:49 +0800 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 12:03:48 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: y/n/^C In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > What's the difference between n and ^C in: > > > Send message ? > Y [Yes] > ^C Cancel N No N will bring you back to the editor to continue your compose. ^C will cancel the entire message and bring you back to the index. ^G will bring you to the "Get Help" and explain it all to you... :-) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 20:15:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23433; Sat, 20 Jan 96 20:15:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19015; Sat, 20 Jan 96 20:01:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19009; Sat, 20 Jan 96 20:01:37 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 21 Jan 96 12:00:55 +0800 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 12:00:54 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: The Doctor Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .forward file ??? In-Reply-To: <4dorgc$j9u@urvile.msus.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, The Doctor wrote: > byrgb@millkern.com (Byrg Bonnelycke) wrote: (15 Jan 1996 19:28:06 GMT) > > ->Hi: > ->Sorry! This is my second posting, since I don't know if the first > ->one "took." > -> > ->Can you put comments in the .forward file ? > ->If so, how do you do it ? > ->Thanx, Byrg > -> > The way I understand it, only the first line of the .forward file is read, so > you can put as much as you want in there. > *-> The Doctor <-* Ummm....sorry you can have multiple lines and thus multiple forwarding actions in your .forward. I do know that everything after a "#" on a line is considered a comment. I've not tried it a the beginning of a line. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 20:31:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23807; Sat, 20 Jan 96 20:31:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15698; Sat, 20 Jan 96 20:23:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15692; Sat, 20 Jan 96 20:23:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdrIi-0000BX-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 20:22:44 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@biocserver.BIOC.CWRU.Edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: pine 3.90 as a POP client Date: 21 Jan 1996 02:04:37 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 18 Jan 1996 14:20:55 -0800 (PST), "Julian M. Gordon" wrote: > >I was wondering if pine 3.90 could be used as a POP client? > >If you're interested, here are the results of my investigations: >My answer at this point would be NO, as when I try > incoming-folders= {mail.bnbcomp.net/pop}jewels >in my pinerc. >I get: > [Can't open mailbox {mail.bnbcomp.net/pop}jewels: invalid remote > specification] I do not recall if 3.90 could be used to access a pop3 mailbox. I do not know that 3.91 can (albeit this is not supported by Pine developers). In either event, the syntax above is incorrect. You may wish to try "incoming-folders=jewels{mail.bnbcomp.net/pop3}" Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar http://biocserver.bioc.cwru.edu/pp/aiyar/aiyar.html -- Change is the essential process of all existence. -- Spock, "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield", stardate 5730.2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 21:25:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24672; Sat, 20 Jan 96 21:25:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16287; Sat, 20 Jan 96 21:16:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16281; Sat, 20 Jan 96 21:16:40 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23860; Sat, 20 Jan 96 21:16:38 -0800 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 21:16:37 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: y/n/^C In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > What's the difference between n and ^C in: > > > Send message ? > Y [Yes] > ^C Cancel N No Actually nothing in this case. (Of course ^C in the composer, as opposed to the Send command, offers a way to cancel the message.) -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 21:30:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24765; Sat, 20 Jan 96 21:30:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16364; Sat, 20 Jan 96 21:22:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from millkern.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16358; Sat, 20 Jan 96 21:22:29 -0800 Received: (from byrgb@localhost) by millkern.com (8.6.9/8.6.10) id AAA17112; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 00:22:26 -0500 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 00:22:23 -0500 (EST) From: Byrg Bonnelycke To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .forward file Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: In article <4dorgc$j9u@urvile.msus.edu>, oerter01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu says... > >byrgb@millkern.com (Byrg Bonnelycke) wrote: (15 Jan 1996 19:28:06 GMT > >->Hi: >->Can you put comments in the .forward file ? >->If so, how do you do it ? >->Thanx, Byrg >-> >The way I understand it, only the first line of the .forward file is read, >so you can put as much as you want in there. > *-> The Doctor <-* > ============================= Sorry, but I think you are wrong! In the meantime I've studied several references to the .forward file. I also tested and found out that: 1) any line starting with the # character is a comment line; (useful for "commenting out" lines you don't want to erase!) 2) It's OK to have several lines in the .forward file; I've tried; (in agreement with Ed Greshko's reply!) 3) you may put not only a filter() function ALONE on a line; you may also put a single FQDN address ALONE on a line; (FQDN = Fully Qualified Domain Name, e.g. joe.blow @somehost.com 4) when you put a (single) FQDN address on a line, then ALL incoming messages will be forwarded to that address, as well as to your default Pine folder. Greetings, Byrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 21:56:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25157; Sat, 20 Jan 96 21:56:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16704; Sat, 20 Jan 96 21:52:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16692; Sat, 20 Jan 96 21:52:51 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id WAA09081 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 22:52:39 -0700 Received: from gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.12]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA29356 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 22:52:43 -0700 Received: by gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id WAA47302; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 22:52:42 -0700 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 22:52:42 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu2.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Pine tree gif In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: HEY!! :-) Apologies to the person who posted the uuencoded gif of the pinetree, because I killed your address when I editted the file...but...this is really cute!! Thank you for posting this - I haven't seen anything like it to date anywhere I've looked on the web. Please contact me by private e-mail- I have a question to ask of you... Thanks again! Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) . (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 22:04:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25289; Sat, 20 Jan 96 22:04:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16796; Sat, 20 Jan 96 22:00:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16790; Sat, 20 Jan 96 22:00:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdsoi-0001Jm-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 21:59:52 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: byrgb@millkern.com (Byrg) Subject: Re: .forward file ??? Date: 21 Jan 1996 04:19:12 GMT Message-Id: <4dses0$3s8@news4.digex.net> References: <4de9s6$lqv@news4.digex.net> <4dorgc$j9u@urvile.msus.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Status: O X-Status: In article <4dorgc$j9u@urvile.msus.edu>, oerter01@condor.stcloud.msus.edu says... > >byrgb@millkern.com (Byrg Bonnelycke) wrote: (15 Jan 1996 19:28:06 GMT > >->Hi: >->Can you put comments in the .forward file ? >->If so, how do you do it ? >->Thanx, Byrg >-> >The way I understand it, only the first line of the .forward file is read, so >you can put as much as you want in there. > *-> The Doctor <-* > ============================= Sorry, but I think you are wrong! In the meantime I've studied several references to the .forward file. I also tested and founded out that:: 1) any line starting with the # character is a comment line; (useful for "commenting out" lines you don't want to erase!) 2) It's OK to have several lines in the .forward file; I've tried; 3) you may put not only a filter() function ALONE on a line; you may also put a single FQDN address ALONE on a line; (FQDN = Fully Qualified Domain Name, e.g. joe.blow @somehost.com 4) if you put (a single) FQDN address on a line, then ALL incoming messages will be forwarded to that address WITHOUT any filtering, as well as to you default PINE folder. Greetings, Byrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 20 23:34:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26434; Sat, 20 Jan 96 23:34:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17691; Sat, 20 Jan 96 23:24:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17685; Sat, 20 Jan 96 23:24:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdu8i-0002SM-00; Sat, 20 Jan 1996 23:24:36 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tom- Subject: Re: Uploading Text Files Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 00:19:30 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 13 Jan 1996, Seth Rogovoy wrote: > I'm brand new to PINE. I've found it incredibly user-friendly, but I have > run into my first brick wall -- can someone PLEASE help me? > > How can I upload a text file from my computer into Pine? More > specifically, how can I upload a file into a message I want to send? > > I've tried, while in composing mode, to upload using my communications > software (which is PROCOMM-PLUS), using XMODEM, YMODEM and ASCII options. > None have worked. (My software doesn't have ZMODEM, so please don't tell > me that's what I need.) > > I realize this may not be a PINE question but rather a UNIX question, but > I don't really know what I'm talking about here, as you can probably > tell. Please help or point me the way towards help. Thanks a lot. > > Seth, There is old software which came with some Hayes 2400bps modems, a couple of years ago, which seems to do what you want done. Because "pine" is often unstable at my ISP, I compose offline, *including* the email address, and subject, with the appropriate blank lines, and the entire body of the letter. After the text file is complete, I go online and get into pine, and use the compose command. Then with the compose screen "blank", I call the modem software, "EZMODEM" with . I select "Autotype" from the "EZMODEM" menu, while I am in "compose" in pine. Then I select the file I want to email, and hit . "EZMODEM" fills in the "compose" screen in pine, automatically, while I watch.... takes a minute, or so. When it's typed, I hit ^X and , and that's that! BTW, I used Xmodem for that operation.... I wish I could find similar software for a 28.8 USR Sportster modem which could do just that. Hm...? I wonder if "EZMODEM" has been updated for 28.8 modems? Does anyone know? Hope this helps... Tom From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 01:34:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28931; Sun, 21 Jan 96 01:34:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19134; Sun, 21 Jan 96 01:30:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19128; Sun, 21 Jan 96 01:29:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdw5o-00041X-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 01:29:45 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgoer@rgoer.candle.com (Ralph Goers) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Date: 20 Jan 1996 10:02:35 GMT Message-Id: <4dqejr$qq1@phobos.Candle.Com> References: <4deqov$q6j@phobos.Candle.Com> <4dn6nt$9uk@phobos.Candle.Com> Status: O X-Status: In message - Mark Crispin writes: :> :>Pine is fully compatible with both IMAP2 and IMAP4, or more accurately, :>IMAP4 supports IMAP2 compatibility. If you are having problems, please :>send a message to pine@cac.washington.edu detailing the symptoms. :> :>The /imap switch should never be necessary. However, I don't know what :>the author of the OS/2 port may have done. After making a few changes based on David's pinerc I find I no longer need the /imap. I have no clue why it now works. The most important thing I had wrong was that folder-collections was set to nothing. Once I set this to point to the directory where my folders are things were much better. David also had a lot more "switches" set. I pretty much left all that blank. I printed the Pine Technical Notes. I think the next step is to read that. BTW - the online help is useful, but not altogether clear. Ralph From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 02:08:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29453; Sun, 21 Jan 96 02:08:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19552; Sun, 21 Jan 96 02:05:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19532; Sun, 21 Jan 96 02:05:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdwdM-0004QF-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 02:04:24 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atstarr@unix.amherst.edu (Andrew Starr) Subject: Re: Convert Pine addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) Date: 20 Jan 1996 12:47:04 GMT Message-Id: <4dqo88$dj4@amhux3.amherst.edu> References: <199601171912.UAA16287@johanna4.hsr.no> <4dob62$las_002@human.cornell.edu> Status: O X-Status: Any Eudora --> Netscape address book converters out there? -- ___________________________________________ Andrew Starr ATStarr@Amherst.Edu http://www.amherst.edu/~atstarr/menu.html ___________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 02:25:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29716; Sun, 21 Jan 96 02:25:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23191; Sun, 21 Jan 96 02:17:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccn.cs.dal.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23185; Sun, 21 Jan 96 02:16:59 -0800 Received: by ccn.cs.dal.ca id <12332(1)>; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 06:19:23 -0400 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 06:19:22 -0400 From: "Marsha C. Holmes" To: Gary Farber Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Limits to "cc"? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Gary I see from my own Distlists that it does show all the addresses! Sorry. The advantage of a distlist is that you don't have to manually put the addresses in everytime you want to send mail to a certain group of people. That's a lifesaver!! :-) Maybe you have to be a LISTSERV or a mailing list like "pine-info" in order to do it without having all the names appear! This is a good question to ask the owner of this mailing list! Sooo, owner of pine-info mailing list, can this be done?? Marsha *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* + Marsha C. Holmes |\ __ /.| (`\ + + ac573@ccn.cs.dal.ca _ .| o o |_ ) ) + + ----------------------(((---(((------------- + + Homepage: http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ac573/Profile.html + + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + + Member of HTML Writers Guild - http://www.synet.net/hwg + *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* On Sat, 20 Jan 1996, Gary Farber wrote: > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 15:39:33 -0400 > From: Gary Farber > To: "Marsha C. Holmes" > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Limits to "cc"? > > On Sat, 20 Jan 1996, Marsha C. Holmes wrote: > > > One solution to your problem would be to create a Distribution List. > > While in your Address Book, press "s" to "CreateList". You give it a > > name and then you can add all the names you wish. > > I've done that, and while I've not tested the limits of it, it was my, > perhaps erroneous, understanding that this is the same as listing the > names manually so far as sendmail is concerned. The Address Book merely > deals with inserting addresses into the "send" slot of your mail -- not > with what comes afterwards. So my understanding is that this would add > nothing. Am I wrong? If so, that would be valuable to know indeed. > > Either way, many thanks for your kind response. :-) > > -- Gary Farber Middlemiss gfarber@panix.com > Copyright 1996 for DUFF Brooklyn, NY, USA > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 04:32:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02446; Sun, 21 Jan 96 04:32:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21275; Sun, 21 Jan 96 04:28:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21269; Sun, 21 Jan 96 04:28:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tdysI-00063N-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 04:27:58 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unclebob@ripco.com (Uncle Bob) Subject: Re: Hi!!! Message-Id: References: <0099C93D.A131AAD5.1143@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 18:12:51 GMT Status: O X-Status: sperez@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx wrote: : Hi! : I have a mail in Mime, i dont know how down in pine : Tengo un mail en Mime, no se como bajarlos desde el pine. : Thanks : Gracias. : Soledad Perez Fernandez : Facultad de Ingenieria Mecanica y Electrica : Universidad Autonoma de Nuevo Leon I think you want to view an attachment. Press 'v' to view it and 'e' to exit the viewer. -- -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 06:24:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04025; Sun, 21 Jan 96 06:24:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22378; Sun, 21 Jan 96 06:17:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22372; Sun, 21 Jan 96 06:17:38 -0800 Received: from teco03a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de by teco01a.teco.uni-karlsruhe.de (8.6.12) id PAA17166; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 15:16:25 +0100 Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 15:16:22 +0100 (MET) From: Gerhard Heijenga To: Terry Gray Cc: Oliver Wrede , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: special .-file for IMAPD? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Terry, I have the same problem as Oliver. I have installed imapd from university of washington on an AIX. Locally it is allright. But when I connect from my remote Alpha-computer I get also "connection refused". If I change the direction (connect from the Alpha to the Aix) there is no problem. TIA gerhard ___________________________________________________________________________________ Gerhard Heijenga eMail: heijenga@teco.uni-karlsruhe.de Veilchenstr. 9 76131 Karlsruhe Tel./Fax: 0721-617906 On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > Oliver, > The connection refused message almost always means the imapd is not > installed correctly. > > -teg > > On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, Oliver Wrede wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > I read all the guides I could find about pine, but I did not get any answer > > to a specific problem. Anyway I fear that this is a total lamer question, but > > I do not have any clue... > > > > > > I want to use a remote inbox. I installed imapd on that remote server. When I > > setup the {the.remotemachine.name}whateverbox entry I always get a > > > > [Can't connect to the.remotemachine.name,143: Connection refused] > > > > > > In the technical notes I found something about that you need a certain file > > in your remote home directroy to allow access. But it was not written which > > file and what its syntax should be: > > > > "With this configuration, the IMAP server runs without pre-authentication. > > Each new IMAP connection requires a correct username and password. IMAP can > > also be run with pre-authentication based on the standard rsh mechanism. To > > enable this, the user account on the IMAP server must contain a valid file > > which grants access to the client machine." > > (taken from http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/tech-notes/installation.html#install-imapd) > > > > > > I also set the username and the password euqal on both machines, but it did > > not seem to help. If I did something wrong in the /etc/inetd.conf - how can I > > check if the imapd is running well? What else am I doing wrong? > > > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > --- > > . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@khm.uni-koeln.de . > > . Academy of Media Arts Cologne . . . . . . http://www.khm.uni-koeln.de/ . > > . Dept. of Design, Tech. Univ. Cologne . http://www.fh-koeln.de/fb/fb-ds/ . > > . Tel/Fax . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +49-2203/181189 . > > . PGP Public Key in Finger-Info at . . . . owrede@wallace.khm.uni-koeln.de . > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 09:33:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06925; Sun, 21 Jan 96 09:33:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24302; Sun, 21 Jan 96 09:21:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24295; Sun, 21 Jan 96 09:21:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0te3S0-0001Yx-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 09:21:08 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca (Alan Kelm) Subject: headers - How to view? Date: 20 Jan 1996 21:39:10 GMT Message-Id: <4drndu$i8o@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: I would like to be able to view the full headers of messages which I receive. According to the help message that comes up when I press "?" while reading a message, the "H" command should enable "Full Header Mode". However, when I give the "H" command, I get the message Command "H" not defined for this screen. This happens in both Pine 3.91 and Pine 3.89. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, -Alan -- : Alan Kelm kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca : : Department of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Ottawa, Canada. : From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 09:35:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07005; Sun, 21 Jan 96 09:35:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27762; Sun, 21 Jan 96 09:21:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27756; Sun, 21 Jan 96 09:21:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0te3S1-0001Z1-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 09:21:09 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Subject: Incorrect Messages and Time Consuming with Empty News Folders Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 12:25:32 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The one things that REALLY bugs me about Pine is this: When you're tab'ing through news folders and pass a folder where all the articles have expired (i.e. there are no articles for that news group on the news server), Pine insists on telling me "No state for newsgroup found, reading as new" and beeping, and then telling me "Newsgroup is empty" and beeping. The latter of these is understandable, but the former should only be shown when the news group is not listed in .newsrc, no? But apart from it being incorrect (I think), it's SLOW! Instead of just going on to the next folder, it pauses for a few seconds on each message, making passing through a number of these empty folders quite time consuming. Is this going to be changed (fixed?) in version 3.92? Apart from that, however, I love it. :) ___ _ _a' /( <. # Simon Bradley: Knight Protector! # / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk # \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' # Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk # <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, # URL: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ # From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 09:36:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07065; Sun, 21 Jan 96 09:36:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24312; Sun, 21 Jan 96 09:21:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24306; Sun, 21 Jan 96 09:21:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0te3S0-0001Yz-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 09:21:09 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca (Alan Kelm) Subject: Re: headers - How to view? Date: 20 Jan 1996 21:49:07 GMT Message-Id: <4dro0j$i8o@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> References: <4drndu$i8o@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Alan Kelm (kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca) wrote: : However, when I give the "H" command, I get the message : Command "H" not defined for this screen. I found the solution. In the setup configuration I have to set the flag called "enable-full-header-cmd". After doing so, the H command works. -ak -- : Alan Kelm kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca : : Department of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Ottawa, Canada. : From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 13:25:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11348; Sun, 21 Jan 96 13:25:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00352; Sun, 21 Jan 96 13:01:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from apollo.COSC.GOV by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00346; Sun, 21 Jan 96 13:01:00 -0800 Received: (from vince@localhost) by apollo.COSC.GOV (8.7.3/8.6.9) id NAA28592; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 13:00:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 13:00:58 -0800 (PST) From: -Vince- To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine and NNTP In-Reply-To: <4cenn1$dje@news.pi.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am using Pine v3.91 under FreeBSD and I noticed that when posting UseNet news, it doesn't seem to use the /etc/organization file or like allow the user to specify the organization header but instead uses the nntpservers organization line. Is there a way around this or is pine v3.92 already out? Thanks in advance! Cheers, -Vince- vince@COSC.GOV - GUS Mailing Lists Admin - http://www.COSC.GOV/~vince UC Berkeley AstroPhysics - Electrical Engineering (Honorary B.S.) Chabot Observatory & Science Center - Board of Advisors Running FreeBSD - Real UN*X for Free! Linda Wong/Vivian Chow/Hacken Lee/Danny Chan/Priscilla Chan Fan Club Mailing Lists Admin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 16:06:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15240; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:06:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29548; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:00:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29542; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:00:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0te9gK-00057b-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 16:00:20 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How to attach a mail message to mail? Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 21:47:15 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4dqtep$q9e@yikes.winc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dqtep$q9e@yikes.winc.com> Status: O X-Status: On 20 Jan 1996, Tom Rataski wrote: : Is there a way that you can attach mail messages out of your folders or : include them in a new mail message. Similar to including a file from a : directory? I realize that I can forward them to someone, but what if I : am written a message and I need to include a message or couple of messages : in what I am writing? I have been wanting to do the same thing myself for quite some time without having first to export a message to an external file and then read it in (and having to remember to delete the exported file). I posted an inquiry here a while ago and so far have received no answer, so if you do get one, please post it (or email me). Thanks. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 16:08:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15342; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:08:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29540; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:00:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29534; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:00:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0te9gI-00057W-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 16:00:19 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.gti.net (USR? whats dat?) Subject: Re: headers - How to view? Date: 20 Jan 1996 21:34:09 -0500 Message-Id: <4ds8n1$n1e@gti.gti.net> References: <4drndu$i8o@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> Status: O X-Status: First, from the main menu, hit 's' for setup, then hit 'c' for configure.... Then, check the 'enable-full-header-command' box, and it'll work from then on in... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 16:09:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15379; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:09:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02863; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:00:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02857; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:00:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0te9gJ-00057Y-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 16:00:19 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: .procmail assistance Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 21:44:29 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4dp741$po8@dodgson.math.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dp741$po8@dodgson.math.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 19 Jan 1996, Jeff Gostin wrote: : Hi! I'm using procmail 3.10, and having a problem with it 'filing' two : copies of every message. I've only used it once, using the script given in : either procmail(1) or procmail(5), and it's in there verbatim... I : cut-n-pasted it. :-) : [...] I'm not addressing myself directly to your .procmailrc, but Nancy McGough has a lot of good material on using procmail with Pine. If you have a Web browser, you can get to her stuff from my home page. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 16:10:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15412; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:10:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02871; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:00:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02865; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:00:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0te9gK-00057c-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 16:00:20 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.gti.net (USR? whats dat?) Subject: Re: How to attach a mail message to mail? Date: 20 Jan 1996 21:45:46 -0500 Message-Id: <4ds9cq$om4@gti.gti.net> References: <4dqtep$q9e@yikes.winc.com> Status: O X-Status: well, i played and played, but all i could get it to do was send an attachment from the other mail folders... couldn't get it to ^R another mail folder.... i'm probably just missing something... anyway, heres how i sent the attachment... the mail folder i wanted to send was called 'car' so, in my attachment, i just put in /u/users1/pegboy/mail/car and that worked to send the folder as an attachment.... good luck! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 16:10:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15460; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:10:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29556; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:00:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29550; Sun, 21 Jan 96 16:00:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0te9gM-00057o-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 16:00:22 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: riffer@freenet2.freenet.ufl.edu (Jeff Mercer) Subject: Re: The quality of your software Date: 21 Jan 1996 02:56:36 GMT Message-Id: <4dsa14$p50@huron.eel.ufl.edu> References: <199601180106.TAA00439@solutions.solon.com> Status: O X-Status: On 17 Jan 1996 17:17:03 -0800, stevehar@solon.com (Steve Harrington) wrote: >I am a new and very dissatisfied user of your software. I didn't have anything to do with it. Your posting to a newsgroup and discussion list with thousands of people reading it. Only a handful of people have *anything* to do with PINE. In other words: Ask me if I care. >The last time I >had do deal with such conflicted software was in the early 80's at Control >Data. The level of inconsistency between command sets in different screens, >editors, functions etc is unbelievable and unacceptable. Really? I found that the program is pretty consistant with its commands. And the two-line help bar at the bottom is of course an easy reference for what commands are available, and one can always hit Control-G to get more detailed help. >If I ever have the >opportunity to offer an opinion to another unfortunate user about Pine, >your development team or the quality of software products licensed from the >University of Washington, please know where I stand. As I said, I could care less. You're trying to direct comments meant for a handful of people to thousands. And you seem to be under the impression that the Pine group is some sort of big corporate conglomerate. They're not. It's a bunch of geeks at UW that happened to right a decent mail program and make it available for anyone else who wants to use it... If you don't like it, that's fine. Delete it and quit snivveling. It's not like it costs any money. >For you to inflict >this software on as you say: "literally millions of people around the >world, and thousands more every day" is dishonest. You should include in >your FAQ a method for users to replace your product with something that >actually works. Let me guess, your just too computer illiterate and incompetant to understand even the most simplistic of operations, and so your putting the blame for your own basic stupidity on the people who wrote the program. I've seen 12 year-old kids with no computer experience of any sort adapt to using pine in less than 30 minutes. I can't imagine how basically mentally challanged you must be to find the program so difficult to use... Not to say that Pine doesn't have its critics, and that there aren't major advocacy wars involving pine (for/against), but they all really boil down to a matter of preference. riffer@afn.org : Reality is a crutch for those who don't have a firm grip Jeff The Riffer : on fantasy. Drifter... : Homo Postmortemus : From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 21 22:22:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22232; Sun, 21 Jan 96 22:22:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07688; Sun, 21 Jan 96 22:16:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07682; Sun, 21 Jan 96 22:16:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0teFXn-0000Px-00; Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:15:55 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlegate@rsa.csuhayward.edu (Dan LeGate) Subject: Subject: Merging Mail Folders??? and NOT deleting old "sent-mail" folders?? Date: 22 Jan 1996 05:20:03 GMT Message-Id: <4dv6q3$lu7@nuke.csu.net> Status: O X-Status: Okay, I'm going to be moving all my mail files from one account to another. Problem is, the new account already has lots of mail folders - many with the same names as the old account. Is there a way to "MERGE" the old mail files with the new ones? If not through Pine, can it be done with the unix cat command? (eg "cat oldfile newfile > newmailfile") Or does a "folder" contain some header/footer information that can't be tampered with? Also, is there a way to get Pine NOT to ask to delete and rename the old sent-mail folders? I *always* want to keep them, so I'd rather just have it do an automatic save. Plus, I sometimes accidently delete a few (by answering "n" or "y") when I'm performing a type-ahead function since Pine takes a while to load. Thanks for any help or information you can provide. Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 01:38:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26631; Mon, 22 Jan 96 01:38:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10363; Mon, 22 Jan 96 01:24:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10351; Mon, 22 Jan 96 01:24:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0teITf-00052Y-00; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 01:23:52 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Pavlicek Subject: Spell-checking question Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 14:27:10 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Using the pico editor in pine, is there a way to customize the spell-checking database? Among other things, I'm getting tired of answering to my own last name. Every other word processor I use has this capability. Richard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 02:39:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27784; Mon, 22 Jan 96 02:39:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11077; Mon, 22 Jan 96 02:27:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11071; Mon, 22 Jan 96 02:27:52 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:13:22 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA09096; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:13:09 GMT Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:13:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Gary Farber Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Limits to "cc"? In-Reply-To: <4dpaqg$lml@panix2.panix.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I strongly suspect that your problem is not within Pine, but in the version of sendmail (the mail delivery system used on most UNIX computers) run on your system. A security hole was uncovered in sendmail that led to the release of a revised version. Most system administrators respond very quickly to security holes and installed the new version. Unfortunately the new version of sendmail "broke" messages being sent to more than about 20 recipients. When Pine tries to pass such a message to sendmail, sendmail crashes which Pine duly reports. The problem was fixed in (if I recall correctly) sendmail 8.6.12. Unfortunately system managers are often not so prompt at installing new versions of software where security is not compromised in the old one :-) You should contact your system manager and ask them to check that they are running sendmail 8.6.12 or later. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 19 Jan 1996, Gary Farber wrote: > > I'd like to know what the limit is as to how many people you can put into > the "To:" line, as well as the "cc:" line and "Bcc:" line. I've had > trouble sending to over 25 or so people at a time per line, but haven't > been able to figure out a precise limit. I couldn't find anything in the > man pages about it. What do you know? Or is this a "sendmail" total > limit, and if so what is the total limit? Does it matter how one divides > the names between those three "send" lines? > > Thanks in advance for everyone's help. :-) > -- > -- Gary Farber Middlemiss gfarber@panix.com > Copyright 1996 for DUFF Brooklyn, NY, USA > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 02:42:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27830; Mon, 22 Jan 96 02:42:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11084; Mon, 22 Jan 96 02:28:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11078; Mon, 22 Jan 96 02:27:57 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:22:12 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id KAA10799; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:21:31 GMT Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:21:31 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: hoacts.infar@axcess.net.in Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Enquiry on PINE In-Reply-To: <9601200704.AA08440@axcess.bombay.axcess.net.in> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can do this (and also see help about doing it!) in Pine's Setup Configuration screen. * Start Pine (version 3.91) * Type "S" (Setup) then "C" (Configuration) * Look down the list of options. You can get help on any item by putting your cursor on it and typing "?" The items you are particularly interested in are: Saving copies of messages you send ---------------------------------- default-fcc Set this to the name of the folder to store a copy of each message you send. Keeping read mail elsewhere --------------------------- read-message-folder Set this to the name of the folder to store the messages you have read. auto-move-read-msgs Selecting this will let Pine automatically move your read mail to the above folder as you quit. If you don't set this option Pine will ask you whether you want to move the messages as you quit. Finally a request... Please could you stop using ALL CAPITALS in messages you send out? They are very hard to read, and capitals are usually reserved for "shouting" about things that annoy you (LIKE PEOPLE SENDING MESSAGES TYPED IN CAPITAL LETTERS! :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 20 Jan 1996 hoacts.infar@axcess.net.in wrote: > -------- > I AM A NEW ENTRANT IN THE WORLD OF INTERNET. > MY COMPANY HAD RECEIVED YOUR DOCUMENT "SECRETS OF PINE 3.9" AND > I HAVE GONE THRU IT BEFORE TRYING TO USE PINE. > WHILE USING PINE I AM FACING CERTAIN DIFFICULTIES. SPECIALLY IN THE AREA OF > 'SETUP' & 'CONFIG'. > ACTUALLY I WANT TO CREATE TWO SEPERATE FOLDERS FOR 'READ MAIL' & 'DESPATCHED > MAIL' SEPEARTLY i.e. WHENEVER I READ ONE MESSAGE FROM 'INBOX', > IT SHOULD MOVE TO 'READ MAIL' FOLDER AUTOMATICALLY, SIMILARLY ALL > MAIL WHAT I HAVE SENT SHOULD MOVE TO 'DESPATCHED MAIL' FOLDER. > IT WIIL BE VERY MUCH APPRECIATED, IF I GET DETAIL DOCUMENTS REGARDING PINE > AND ALSO YOUR SUGGESTIONS ON HOW TO USE PINE EFFICIENTLY. > WAITING FOR AN EARLY REPLY. > THANK YOU, > > AMIT SEN > INFAR (INDIA) LIMITED > 7 WOOD STREET, > CALCUTTA-700016 > INDIA > EMAIL:hoacts.infar@axcess.net.in or infar@giascl01.vsnl.net.in > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 03:59:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29239; Mon, 22 Jan 96 03:59:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11912; Mon, 22 Jan 96 03:46:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11906; Mon, 22 Jan 96 03:46:30 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:16:04 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id LAA25017; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:14:51 GMT Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:14:51 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Richard Pavlicek Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Spell-checking question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You are seeing a shortcoming of the standard UNIX "spell" utility. Try investigating how to use GNU ispell instead. You can set this up as the "alternate editor" and invoke it to check your document. See the Pine Information Centre for details. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Richard Pavlicek wrote: > Using the pico editor in pine, is there a way to customize the > spell-checking database? Among other things, I'm getting tired > of answering to my own last name. > > Every other word processor I use has this capability. > > Richard > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 05:56:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02352; Mon, 22 Jan 96 05:56:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13318; Mon, 22 Jan 96 05:26:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13310; Mon, 22 Jan 96 05:26:37 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA01125; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 07:26:37 -0600 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 07:26:37 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Richard Pavlicek Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Spell-checking question In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Using the pico editor in pine, is there a way to customize the > spell-checking database? Among other things, I'm getting tired > of answering to my own last name. > > Every other word processor I use has this capability. ......heavens, and I thought pico was a "text editor", not a "word processor The spell ckecking is not part of pico, but rather a call to whatever UNIX spell database is on your system. If you tell us (me) what kind of system you're logging into, I can probably tell you how the spell program (usually ispell) can be updated. __| \ \ / __| _ \ _ \ Jim Esten sysop@acs.stritch.edu \__ \ \ / \__ \ ( | __/ \____/ _| \____/ \___/ _| "In the beginning was the word, _____________________________ and the word was ..... adjust" ....also at jesten@msn.com ....find me on the web at http://www.stritch.edu/sysop/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 08:41:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08173; Mon, 22 Jan 96 08:41:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12736; Mon, 22 Jan 96 08:05:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12730; Mon, 22 Jan 96 08:05:45 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23935; Mon, 22 Jan 96 08:03:15 -0800 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:03:14 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Gerhard Heijenga Cc: Oliver Wrede , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: special .-file for IMAPD? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Gerhard, My remote diagnosis is the same: if you get a connection refused on port 143, it almost always means that the imapd is not correctly installed. You can try telnetting to port 143 of the server to verify this. If the imapd is working, you'll be able to interact with it via telnet (if you know the protocol syntax), or at least be able to see that it's alive. -teg On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Gerhard Heijenga wrote: > Terry, > I have the same problem as Oliver. I have installed imapd from university > of washington on an AIX. Locally it is allright. But when I connect from > my remote Alpha-computer I get also "connection refused". > > If I change the direction (connect from the Alpha to the Aix) there is no > problem. > > TIA > gerhard > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > > Gerhard Heijenga eMail: heijenga@teco.uni-karlsruhe.de > Veilchenstr. 9 > 76131 Karlsruhe > Tel./Fax: 0721-617906 > > On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Oliver, > > The connection refused message almost always means the imapd is not > > installed correctly. > > > > -teg > > > > On Fri, 19 Jan 1996, Oliver Wrede wrote: > > > > > Hi. > > > > > > > > > I read all the guides I could find about pine, but I did not get any answer > > > to a specific problem. Anyway I fear that this is a total lamer question, but > > > I do not have any clue... > > > > > > > > > I want to use a remote inbox. I installed imapd on that remote server. When I > > > setup the {the.remotemachine.name}whateverbox entry I always get a > > > > > > [Can't connect to the.remotemachine.name,143: Connection refused] > > > > > > > > > In the technical notes I found something about that you need a certain file > > > in your remote home directroy to allow access. But it was not written which > > > file and what its syntax should be: > > > > > > "With this configuration, the IMAP server runs without pre-authentication. > > > Each new IMAP connection requires a correct username and password. IMAP can > > > also be run with pre-authentication based on the standard rsh mechanism. To > > > enable this, the user account on the IMAP server must contain a valid file > > > which grants access to the client machine." > > > (taken from http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/tech-notes/installation.html#install-imapd) > > > > > > > > > I also set the username and the password euqal on both machines, but it did > > > not seem to help. If I did something wrong in the /etc/inetd.conf - how can I > > > check if the imapd is running well? What else am I doing wrong? > > > > > > > > > Oliver > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > . Oliver Wrede . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . owrede@khm.uni-koeln.de . > > > . Academy of Media Arts Cologne . . . . . . http://www.khm.uni-koeln.de/ . > > > . Dept. of Design, Tech. Univ. Cologne . http://www.fh-koeln.de/fb/fb-ds/ . > > > . Tel/Fax . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . +49-2203/181189 . > > > . PGP Public Key in Finger-Info at . . . . owrede@wallace.khm.uni-koeln.de . > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 08:55:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08759; Mon, 22 Jan 96 08:55:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16666; Mon, 22 Jan 96 08:39:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16660; Mon, 22 Jan 96 08:39:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0tePGZ-0001wu-00; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 08:38:47 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: apattser@mozart.inet.co.th (Apatt) Subject: Signatures in Pine Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:49:59 GMT Message-Id: <4e0bom$pai@senior.nectec.or.th> Status: O X-Status: Could somebody please tell me how to put signatures at the end of Pine messages? Thanks / Apatt From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 09:43:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12328; Mon, 22 Jan 96 09:43:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18623; Mon, 22 Jan 96 09:34:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18617; Mon, 22 Jan 96 09:34:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0teQ7q-00056W-00; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:33:51 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: libmgmt@world.std.com (Library Management Associates) Subject: No individual configurations? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:19:34 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to have just one configuration file for all of our users, without having individual accounts being able to change their own configurations and override the main configuration? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Elizabeth B. Thomsen | Listowner : Trollope, Bronte, Benson Library Management Associates | Boston-book, Boston-cares libmgmt@world.std.com | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 10:58:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17531; Mon, 22 Jan 96 10:58:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20647; Mon, 22 Jan 96 10:37:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20640; Mon, 22 Jan 96 10:37:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0teR7Q-0001xS-00; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 10:37:28 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@evo.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Signatures in Pine Date: 22 Jan 1996 18:01:26 GMT Message-Id: <4e0jdm$o6g@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4e0bom$pai@senior.nectec.or.th> Status: O X-Status: In article <4e0bom$pai@senior.nectec.or.th>, apattser@mozart.inet.co.th (Apatt) writes: >Could somebody please tell me how to put signatures at the end of >Pine messages? signature-at-bottom as feature MR From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 12:16:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22234; Mon, 22 Jan 96 12:16:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19585; Mon, 22 Jan 96 11:47:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19579; Mon, 22 Jan 96 11:47:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0teSD4-0005hR-00; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:47:22 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu (Dean Pentcheff) Subject: Re: The quality of your software Date: 22 Jan 1996 06:45:51 -0500 Message-Id: <4dvtdf$ftv@tbone.biol.sc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) writes: [A very level-headed and tolerant set of responses to a growling and whining protest letter.] David, you are a model of discretion! Don't think that, because we don't write too often, there aren't oodles (we'll leave exact numbers out here) of very happy users of Pine. Pine has been a godsend for many, many people, both systems administrators and users. Of course, not everyone loves all aspects of Pine! Many, many compromises had to be made in its design, and I particlulary applaud the developers for writing a document that describes the design decisions in detail (rather than just stating a vague "design goal" and leaving it at that). The choices are hard, and not everyone will agree with all the decisions that were made along the way, but the overall set of features is well balanced. Kudos to the Pine development team for a well-done, and necessary product! -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff WWW: http://tbone.biol.sc.edu/~dean/ Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) PGP ID=768/22A1A015 Keyprint=2D 53 87 53 72 4A F2 83 A0 BF CB C0 D1 0E 76 C0 Get PGP keys and information with the command: "finger dean@tbone.biol.sc.edu" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 12:23:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22674; Mon, 22 Jan 96 12:23:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22873; Mon, 22 Jan 96 11:47:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22867; Mon, 22 Jan 96 11:47:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0teSD3-0005hP-00; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:47:22 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mob@celestion.com (Martin Roberts) Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:53:28 GMT Message-Id: References: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> <30F0383F.58C2@nttex.com> <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> Status: O X-Status: In article <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> lukvdh@tornado.be (Luk Van de Heyning) writes: >From: lukvdh@tornado.be (Luk Van de Heyning) >Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT >Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 01:49:19 GMT >Joe Savage wrote: >>David Looke wrote: >>> >>> Can anyone advise me on the best Mail Server for Windows NT? >>> >>I am currently running an evaluation copy of post.office and it out performs all the >>others. It's easy to setup and administer and I would recommend it highly for a small to >>medium size lan. >Perhaps you could be so kind to let us know where to find it? Any URL >to it? >Thanks! Please also let me know about this software (ie URL). Has anyone tried Win-SMTP 32 bit version. I use the 16-bit win 3.x ver & it's OK for LAN use but a bit tricky for dial-up internet mail (I use the latter). Martin Roberts mob@celestion.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 14:26:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29431; Mon, 22 Jan 96 14:26:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27121; Mon, 22 Jan 96 14:09:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27115; Mon, 22 Jan 96 14:09:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0teUQf-0000LI-00; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:09:34 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean RICHELLE Subject: "standard-printer" specification Date: 22 Jan 1996 12:44:59 GMT Message-Id: <4e00sb$q6d@rc1.vub.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Hi you Pine-users, I have a problem with the general variable "standard-printer". The general configuration file (pine.conf) defines the standard-printer variable, but the specified value does not show up in position 2 when go in "Main-menu->Setup->Printer", instead I read "lpr" (and this does not correspond to the value of the environmental variable PRINTER !) I am running version 3.91 of Pine and I have the impression that under an earlier version the standard-printer variable was used as expected. Can somebody help me ? Jean From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 14:29:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29538; Mon, 22 Jan 96 14:29:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24142; Mon, 22 Jan 96 14:10:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24136; Mon, 22 Jan 96 14:10:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0teUQt-0000LT-00; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:09:47 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Shrinking Message Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 14:20:45 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4d3hr8$fs3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4d3hr8$fs3@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 11 Jan 1996, Matt McLean wrote: > While in pine, I tried to save a message from inbox to a previously > created folder. Pine returned the message, "[Message to save shrank! > (#1:1563 --> 1554)]" and did not transfer my mail to the appropriate > folder. The number 1563 referred to the size of the original email. > > Has anyone seen a message like this before? This is pine 3.91 on a SUN > Sparc20 with 4.1.4. Any ideas why this would happen? Yes, once. One of my users, who uses WinPine client with a Sun4 server, experienced this. The effect was completely repeatable (so timing effects did not apply). I could see no message specific peculiarities. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 15:41:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03438; Mon, 22 Jan 96 15:41:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26304; Mon, 22 Jan 96 15:22:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26298; Mon, 22 Jan 96 15:22:10 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12487; Mon, 22 Jan 96 15:20:50 -0800 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:20:48 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Egil Kvaleberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Line length, quoted printable, usenet posting In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Egil, I'm concerned about a statement you make below in your msg of 7 January: "RFC1340 clearly indicates the possibility of sending straight 8bit." I believe this is at best misleading, if not incorrect. (NB: "RFC1340" is presumably a typo, but note that 1341 is superseded by 1521.) MIME provides a method for labeling and encoding content. It does *not* specify what is legal to send via any given transport. What's legal to *send* is defined by RFC821 and its successors. With the current Internet mail transport infrastructure, it is not sufficient simply to "announce" 8bit in the header; indeed, as far as I know, there is no Internet standard *anywhere* that says it's OK to send unencoded 8bit (much less, binary) data *unless* by explicit negotiation with the MTA via the 8BITMIME extension to (E)SMTP defined in RFC-1426. Here's the relevant text from the MIME standard: NOTE: The distinction between the Content-Transfer-Encoding values of "binary", "8bit", etc. may seem unimportant, in that all of them really mean "none" -- that is, there has been no encoding of the data for transport. However, clear labeling will be of enormous value to gateways between future mail transport systems with differing capabilities in transporting data that do not meet the restrictions of RFC 821 transport. Mail transport for unencoded 8-bit data is defined in RFC-1426 [RFC-1426]. As of the publication of this document, there are no standardized Internet mail transports for which it is legitimate to include unencoded binary data in mail bodies. Thus there are no circumstances in which the "binary" Content-Transfer-Encoding is actually legal on the Internet. However, in the event that binary mail transport becomes a reality in Internet mail, or when this document is used in conjunction with any other binary-capable transport mechanism, binary bodies should be labeled as such using this mechanism. Because we take some pride in Pine's adherence to Internet standards, it is always painful to see folks distributing patches, such as your "just-send-8" patch, which cause Pine to *violate* Internet standards. This is not to say that I *like* the limitations of 821, only that we are committed to interoperability via Internet standards adherence. As you know, Pine 3.92 will support ESMTP negotiation of 8BITMIME transport, which is the standards-based solution to the problem. -teg On Sun, 7 Jan 1996, Egil Kvaleberg wrote: > Alan J. Flavell (FLAVELL@vxcern.cern.ch) wrote: > > On 4 Jan 1996, Andreas Klemm wrote: > > > > In article , > > > flavell@vxcern.cern.ch (Alan J. Flavell) writes: > > > >When the result is intended as a usenet posting, this gets > > > >complaints from other usenauts about the =20 and =3D and stuff. > > > >Many usenet readers don't support MIME and display the stuff raw > > > >to the readers. > > I find the current situation where programs like Pine and Netscape > switches to Mime Printables whenever they see one little 8-bit > character very unfortunate. RFC1340 clearly indicates the possibility > of sending straight 8bit. As long as this is announced in the > header, I really think that this is a good thing: > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT > > > I don't believe it > > is polite to use MIME encoding on usenet. > > If you by MIME encoding mean "Quoted Printable", I 100% agree. > I even think its use for email should be limited too. > > That is why I have made a patch for Pine 3.91 to allow proper > 8bit postings. A feature switch "allow-8bit-mime" has been > introduced to enable this feature. The 8bit coding for text is > used for situations where all these conditions are met: > > 1. The "allow-8bit-mime" feature is set. > 2. One or more character has the upper bit set. > 3. None of these characters are unprintable. > 4. Less than 30% of the characters require 8bit. > 5. The line length is below 500. > 6. There are no NULs. > > Please email me at egilk@sn.no if you are interested. > > Egil > > -- > Email: egilk@sn.no Voice: +47 22523641 Fax: +47 22525899 > Snail: Egil Kvaleberg, Husebybakken 14A, 0379 Oslo, Norway > URL: http://www.oslonett.no/home/egilk/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 16:06:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04713; Mon, 22 Jan 96 16:06:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00335; Mon, 22 Jan 96 15:54:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00329; Mon, 22 Jan 96 15:54:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0teW3v-0001Ua-00; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:54:11 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: Hi!!! Date: 22 Jan 1996 21:35:42 GMT Message-Id: <4e0vve$3us@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <0099C93D.A131AAD5.1143@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx> Status: O X-Status: sperez@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx wrote: : Hi! : I have a mail in Mime, i dont know how down in pine Based on the Spanish text below, Soledad meant: I have a mail in Mime, i dont know how to download it using pine I also have problems when people post news using MIME. My answer is to ignore it. Sorry! : Tengo un mail en Mime, no se como bajarlos desde el pine. TambiEn tengo problemas cuando se publica noticias con MIME. Mi respuesta es ignorarlas. !!Lo siento! -David : Thanks : Gracias. : Soledad Perez Fernandez : Facultad de Ingenieria Mecanica y Electrica : Universidad Autonoma de Nuevo Leon -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 16:32:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06688; Mon, 22 Jan 96 16:32:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01106; Mon, 22 Jan 96 16:20:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01100; Mon, 22 Jan 96 16:20:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0teWTW-0001mN-00; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:20:38 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: No individual configurations? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:18:39 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Library Management Associates wrote: > Is there a way to have just one configuration file for all of our users, > without having individual accounts being able to change their own > configurations and override the main configuration? The "Pine Technical Notes" for version 3.91 (October 1994), beginning on page 28, discuss configuration. A system administrator can set up a system-wide *fixed* configuration file for at least some variables which users cannot override. It might go in a file such as /usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed . Sorry, I don't have the ftp URL where the Technical Notes can be obtained. (An administrator can also set up a system-wide configuration file which users *can* override.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 16:44:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07814; Mon, 22 Jan 96 16:44:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01517; Mon, 22 Jan 96 16:34:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01511; Mon, 22 Jan 96 16:34:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com with local (Exim 0.37 #5) id E0teWgV-0001vs-00; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 16:34:03 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: No individual configurations? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:22:30 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: : On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Library Management Associates wrote: : : > Is there a way to have just one configuration file for all of our users, : > without having individual accounts being able to change their own : > configurations and override the main configuration? : : The "Pine Technical Notes" for version 3.91 (October 1994), beginning : on page 28, discuss configuration. [...] : Sorry, I don't have the ftp URL where : the Technical Notes can be obtained. [...] Just found something. Look in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 17:40:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11013; Mon, 22 Jan 96 17:40:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29923; Mon, 22 Jan 96 17:25:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29917; Mon, 22 Jan 96 17:25:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teXSs-00038RC; Mon, 22 Jan 96 17:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shadowfire Subject: Anonymous Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 09:20:11 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Does anybody know how to configure pine so that I can be anonymous instead of my e-mail address showing in the from field? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 18:37:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12906; Mon, 22 Jan 96 18:37:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04398; Mon, 22 Jan 96 18:30:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04392; Mon, 22 Jan 96 18:30:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teYQm-00038RC; Mon, 22 Jan 96 18:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Re: Spell-checking question Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 05:29:03 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Richard Pavlicek wrote: > Using the pico editor in pine, is there a way to customize the > spell-checking database? Among other things, I'm getting tired > of answering to my own last name. > > Every other word processor I use has this capability. > > Richard You can use the Alt-Edit command to configure the spell checker of your choice. I use ispell on my Amiga based Pine. Rick __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 20:01:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15030; Mon, 22 Jan 96 20:01:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02468; Mon, 22 Jan 96 19:51:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02462; Mon, 22 Jan 96 19:51:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teZl3-00038RC; Mon, 22 Jan 96 19:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Stephen J. Weihman" Subject: Re: Outgoing messages Date: Wed, 17 Jan 1996 14:56:43 -0500 Message-Id: <30FD547B.7DDA@mail.cyberspy.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: bcherne@VAX2.Winona.MSUS.EDU wrote: > My pine mailer used to automatically save a copy of all outgoing > messages but it doesn't anymore. Is there a way I can set it to do so? Go into Setup, Config. Make sure you have the following set: default-fcc = Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16469; Mon, 22 Jan 96 20:52:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06262; Mon, 22 Jan 96 20:41:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06256; Mon, 22 Jan 96 20:41:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teaVF-00038TC; Mon, 22 Jan 96 20:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Anonymous Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:03:10 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Shadowfire wrote: > Does anybody know how to configure pine so that I can be anonymous > instead of my e-mail address showing in the from field? Use an anonymous remailer. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 21:41:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17578; Mon, 22 Jan 96 21:41:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07078; Mon, 22 Jan 96 21:34:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07072; Mon, 22 Jan 96 21:34:05 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id WAA09474 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 22:34:02 -0700 Received: from gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.19]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA31004 for ; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 22:34:03 -0700 Received: by gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id WAA50500; Mon, 22 Jan 1996 22:34:02 -0700 Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 22:34:01 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu5.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Anonymous In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > > Does anybody know how to configure pine so that I can be anonymous > > instead of my e-mail address showing in the from field? In Pine's Main Menu, hit s for setup and choose Config. The first two lines in the config menu are for 'Personal Name' (fingername equivalent) and 'user domain' (server name). Modifying these two fields will create an alias (read: fake) address. What I'd suggest is that you check with your provider or sysadmins before you do this. Here, it's considered illegal to use a 'fraudulent' email address and is grounds for the user getting their account suspended. Be careful. Lea From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 22:25:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18549; Mon, 22 Jan 96 22:25:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07660; Mon, 22 Jan 96 22:16:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cadul.cadul.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07652; Mon, 22 Jan 96 22:16:39 -0800 Received: (from mlists@localhost) by cadul.cadul.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id GAA02092; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 06:47:44 GMT Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 06:47:44 +0000 (GMT) From: pseudo account f|r mailing lists To: Apatt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signatures in Pine In-Reply-To: <4e0bom$pai@senior.nectec.or.th> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Create a .signature file in your home directory or enter a filename to the signature-file option in the setup screen. Norbert > Could somebody please tell me how to put signatures at the end of > Pine messages? > > Thanks / Apatt > ============================================================================== Phone: +49 731 937600 CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de Germany sales@cadul.de WWW: http://www.cadul.de ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 22 22:53:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19255; Mon, 22 Jan 96 22:53:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08182; Mon, 22 Jan 96 22:47:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08176; Mon, 22 Jan 96 22:47:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tecRb-00038RC; Mon, 22 Jan 96 22:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unclebob@ripco.com (Uncle Bob) Subject: Re: Using TIN Message-Id: References: <4dp71v$oa@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 05:23:59 GMT Status: O X-Status: DonnaSW25 (donnasw25@aol.com) wrote: : Okay. : How do I read/post news articles to USENET from pine. To post, you should use the Rich Headers option. It adds "Newsgroups:" as a header. Put the name of the newsgroup there and compose your message normally. I don't read news in Pine. I prefer Tin. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 01:15:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21980; Tue, 23 Jan 96 01:15:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06956; Tue, 23 Jan 96 00:58:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06950; Tue, 23 Jan 96 00:57:51 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 23 Jan 1996 08:56:13 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id IAA26689; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 08:55:54 GMT Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 08:55:54 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Apatt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signatures in Pine In-Reply-To: <4e0bom$pai@senior.nectec.or.th> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can read about this by: 1. Starting Pine (always helpful! :-) 2. Selecting Setup ("S" from the Main Menu) 3. Selecting Configuration (C) 4. Looking down the list of options and seeing, a few lines down the very first screen the magical words "signature-file". 5. Notice that the command menu at the bottom of the screen talles you that the "?" will give you help (on the item the cursor is on). If you have a look there you'll probably find all you want to know (and may spot some other interesting things in passing, too). Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Apatt wrote: > Could somebody please tell me how to put signatures at the end of > Pine messages? > > Thanks / Apatt > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 01:19:55 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22121; Tue, 23 Jan 96 01:19:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07115; Tue, 23 Jan 96 01:06:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07109; Tue, 23 Jan 96 01:06:21 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:04:09 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA27788; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:04:04 GMT Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:04:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Barry Landy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Shrinking Message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: As I recall this is due to a small problem in the C-Client code distributed with Pine 3.91. The problem arises because the problem message includes crom CR-LF pairs. Pine sees the total number of characters (including LF's), tries to save the message, but omits the LF's. This causes the total message size to shrink (LF's stripped out) and is detected by Pine's sanity checking code. The solution is to obtain and use the later IMAP kit from ftp.cac.wachington.edu. (I think it's imap-3.6beta? ... can't remember, but it should be obvious). This includes new C-cline and imapd code which (I think!) cures the problem. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Barry Landy wrote: > On 11 Jan 1996, Matt McLean wrote: > > > While in pine, I tried to save a message from inbox to a previously > > created folder. Pine returned the message, "[Message to save shrank! > > (#1:1563 --> 1554)]" and did not transfer my mail to the appropriate > > folder. The number 1563 referred to the size of the original email. > > > > Has anyone seen a message like this before? This is pine 3.91 on a SUN > > Sparc20 with 4.1.4. Any ideas why this would happen? > > Yes, once. One of my users, who uses WinPine client with a Sun4 server, > experienced this. The effect was completely repeatable (so timing effects > did not apply). I could see no message specific peculiarities. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 > Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 > University of Cambridge Computing Service > New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk > Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 06:04:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29426; Tue, 23 Jan 96 06:04:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10795; Tue, 23 Jan 96 05:49:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs.stritch.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10789; Tue, 23 Jan 96 05:49:37 -0800 Received: by acs.stritch.edu; id AA18302; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 07:49:39 -0600 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 07:49:38 -0600 (CST) From: Jim Esten To: Shadowfire Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Anonymous In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Shadowfire wrote: > Does anybody know how to configure pine so that I can be anonymous > instead of my e-mail address showing in the from field? > .......does anyone care? What are you hiding from? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 06:40:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00540; Tue, 23 Jan 96 06:40:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11137; Tue, 23 Jan 96 06:16:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11131; Tue, 23 Jan 96 06:16:09 -0800 Received: by gsaix2.cc.GaSoU.EDU (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA167552; Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:20:14 -0500 Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:20:13 -0500 (EST) From: Shadowfire To: Jim Esten Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Anonymous In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Jim Esten wrote: > > > On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Shadowfire wrote: > > > Does anybody know how to configure pine so that I can be anonymous > > instead of my e-mail address showing in the from field? > > > .......does anyone care? What are you hiding from? > >I'm not hiding from anything, occasionally I come across a Missing Host in some newsgroups, and I was just curious how people did it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 07:11:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01217; Tue, 23 Jan 96 07:11:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11774; Tue, 23 Jan 96 07:00:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11768; Tue, 23 Jan 96 07:00:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tek8X-00038TC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 06:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@evo.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: No individual configurations? Date: 23 Jan 1996 10:13:30 GMT Message-Id: <4e2cca$gr7@ratatosk.uio.no> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Paul O Bartlett writes: > The "Pine Technical Notes" for version 3.91 (October 1994), beginning >on page 28, discuss configuration. A system administrator can set up a >system-wide *fixed* configuration file for at least some variables which >users cannot override. It might go in a file such as >/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed . Sorry, I don't have the ftp URL where >the Technical Notes can be obtained. http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/tech-notes/index.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 07:26:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01661; Tue, 23 Jan 96 07:26:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15118; Tue, 23 Jan 96 07:14:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15112; Tue, 23 Jan 96 07:14:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tekOZ-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 07:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unclebob@ripco.com (Uncle Bob) Subject: Re: How to attach a mail message to mail? Message-Id: References: <4dqtep$q9e@yikes.winc.com> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:02:40 GMT Status: O X-Status: Tom Rataski (tom@winc.com) wrote: : Is there a way that you can attach mail messages out of your folders or : include them in a new mail message. Similar to including a file from a : directory? I realize that I can forward them to someone, but what if I : am written a message and I need to include a message or couple of messages : in what I am writing? If you know ahead of time which messages you need to incorporate into your text, you could save (export) them to your shell and then use the "Read File" Command to insert them as you compose. You could also edit them either in the shell prior to using them, or after you insert them into your message text. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 07:48:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02432; Tue, 23 Jan 96 07:48:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12366; Tue, 23 Jan 96 07:34:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12360; Tue, 23 Jan 96 07:34:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tekft-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 07:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Incorrect Messages and Time Consuming with Empty News Folders Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:13:01 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I dont see this. With our setup, it simply skips groups with no new news until it finds one with something to display. No beeps. On Sat, 20 Jan 1996, Simon wrote: > The one things that REALLY bugs me about Pine is this: When you're tab'ing > through news folders and pass a folder where all the articles have expired > (i.e. there are no articles for that news group on the news server), Pine > insists on telling me "No state for newsgroup found, reading as new" and > beeping, and then telling me "Newsgroup is empty" and beeping. > > The latter of these is understandable, but the former should only be shown > when the news group is not listed in .newsrc, no? But apart from it being > incorrect (I think), it's SLOW! Instead of just going on to the next folder, > it pauses for a few seconds on each message, making passing through a number > of these empty folders quite time consuming. > > Is this going to be changed (fixed?) in version 3.92? > > Apart from that, however, I love it. :) > > ___ _ _a' /( <. # Simon Bradley: Knight Protector! # > / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk # > \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' # Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk # > <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, # URL: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ # > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 08:54:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05410; Tue, 23 Jan 96 08:54:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16876; Tue, 23 Jan 96 08:34:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16868; Tue, 23 Jan 96 08:34:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teleV-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 08:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 18:07:01 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org> Status: O X-Status: On 21 Jan 1996, Brian J Barbazon wrote: > Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function > by which a system-generated message is automatically sent back to the > sender when the e-mail in question is "opened". If this function is > available, how would I find or use it? Any help would be most appreciated > as I am a novice user of the Pine system. Assuming you are using the current version 3.91 of Pine, go into Setup and Config from the Main Menu. Scroll down and add a customized-header Return-receipt-to: your-email-address Be aware, however, that this does not guarnatee that you will get a return receipt, as not all receiving systems honor it, and there is currently (so far as I know) no Internet-wide requirement that the request be honored. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 09:29:35 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08100; Tue, 23 Jan 96 09:29:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14634; Tue, 23 Jan 96 09:04:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14617; Tue, 23 Jan 96 09:04:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tem5S-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 09:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Subject: Merging Mail Folders??? and NOT deleting old "sent-mail" folders?? Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 14:26:28 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4dv6q3$lu7@nuke.csu.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4dv6q3$lu7@nuke.csu.net> Status: O X-Status: On 22 Jan 1996, Dan LeGate wrote: > Okay, I'm going to be moving all my mail files from one account to > another. Problem is, the new account already has lots of mail folders > - many with the same names as the old account. Is there a way to > "MERGE" the old mail files with the new ones? If not through Pine, > can it be done with the unix cat command? (eg "cat oldfile newfile > > newmailfile") Or does a "folder" contain some header/footer > information that can't be tampered with? If the mail folders are the default berkeley format there is no problem in concatenating the files. Alternatively systematically rename one set as old.folders, say, and then use Pine's features to merge the contents. > > Also, is there a way to get Pine NOT to ask to delete and rename the > old sent-mail folders? I *always* want to keep them, so I'd rather > just have it do an automatic save. Plus, I sometimes accidently > delete a few (by answering "n" or "y") when I'm performing a > type-ahead function since Pine takes a while to load. No problem. Look for a line containing last-time-prune-questioned=yy.mm in the pinerc file. Change yy.mm to something in the distant future (999.12 should work, I think). Bingo. This must be done by an editor, as pine's config will not touch this field. I dont know what will happen in the year 2000! ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 10:15:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10032; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:15:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19215; Tue, 23 Jan 96 09:49:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19209; Tue, 23 Jan 96 09:49:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tempz-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 09:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brunof@ancha.com (Bruno Farre) Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Date: Tue, 23 Jan 96 16:24:22 GMT Message-Id: <4e31or$64r@its.hooked.net> References: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> <30F0383F.58C2@nttex.com> <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> Status: O X-Status: In article , mob@celestion.com (Martin Roberts) wrote: >In article <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> lukvdh@tornado.be (Luk Van de Heyning) writes: >>From: lukvdh@tornado.be (Luk Van de Heyning) >>Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT >>Date: Mon, 08 Jan 1996 01:49:19 GMT > >Please also let me know about this software (ie URL). >Has anyone tried Win-SMTP 32 bit version. I use the 16-bit win 3.x ver & it's >OK for LAN use but a bit tricky for dial-up internet mail (I use the latter). > There are 2.5 mail server I looked at: Post.office found at http://www.software.com/ NTmail found at http://www.net-shopper.co.uk/software/ntmail/ SLmail95 found at http://www.seattlelab.com/ My favorite is post office, but I bought slmail95 that run on NT (not as service). The upgrade will be available for free in March. I run an intranet with NT and website. SLmail does everything I need and there is a big price difference. So far so good =================== -=< Bruno Farre >=- =================== http://www.hooked.net/users/brunof/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 10:18:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10206; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:18:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16249; Tue, 23 Jan 96 09:59:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16243; Tue, 23 Jan 96 09:59:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0temwZ-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 09:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dupuis@lei.ucl.ac.be (Pascal A. Dupuis) Subject: Format of Pine mbox? Date: 23 Jan 1996 16:16:51 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hello, sorry if it was answered before - I'm new to this group. I need to convert mail files which were individually stored by Minuet into Pine "folder" file. I noticed each Pine message start with : from user@domain DATE Status: RO X-Status: Return-Path: and the rest of the header seems always ordered the same way. Minuet mail file begins with the path the mail followed : Received from x@y by ... Date: ... How could I automagically convert my old mail files, setting the correct Pine header ? Many thanks in advance Pascal A. Dupuis -- You've just been hit by the .signature virus. Program terminated. Core dumped. Stand by while system reboots... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 10:21:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10354; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:21:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19632; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:04:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19626; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:04:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ten2b-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Luca Ida Giovanni TOLDO (Ph.D.)" Subject: How to convert VMS MAIL.MAI to Unix Pine ? Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 20:59:00 +0100 Message-Id: <3103EC84.27BE@embl-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Dear Collegues, I am in the very urgent need of converting existing MAIL.MAI to Pine Unix format keeping the structure of the several folders... Any help on suggestions how to accomplish (automatically ) that is greatly acknowledged. best regards Dr. Luca Ida Giovanni TOLDO (Ph.D.) European Molecular Biology Laboratory Computer Group Heidelberg Germany From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 10:32:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10745; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:32:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16390; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:04:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16384; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:04:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0ten2b-00038TC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: BRUCE@DEVELOPMENT.watstar.uwaterloo.ca (Bruce Campbell) Subject: how do I set the time zone in PC PINE 3.89 ? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 21:34:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: Anyone know how to set the time zone in PC PINE 3.89 ? I am in EST (eastern), and PINE thinks I'm in PST (pacific). I checked the docs, and cannot find a refercence to time, zone, tz or anything like that. Thanks in advance for any assistance anyone can offer. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Bruce Campbell Engineering Computing CPH-2374 University of Waterloo (519) 885-1211 ext 5889 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 11:09:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12718; Tue, 23 Jan 96 11:09:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20757; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:49:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20751; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:49:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teniy-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Anonymous Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 17:55:08 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Shadowfire wrote: > Does anybody know how to configure pine so that I can be anonymous > instead of my e-mail address showing in the from field? Without recompiling pine, the user cannot modify the from line. But modifying the from line would not really achive anonymity. To send mail anonymously you should use an anonymous remailer. I don't really know the details, but you can go to http://www.stack.urc.tue.nl/~galactus/remailers/ for more detail -jeff Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 11:16:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13030; Tue, 23 Jan 96 11:16:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21074; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:59:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21066; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:59:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tenuF-00038UC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: No individual configurations? Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 17:25:31 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Library Management Associates wrote: > Is there a way to have just one configuration file for all of our users, > without having individual accounts being able to change their own > configurations and override the main configuration? All pine configuration information that you do not wish to be changable by users should go into (for Unix versions) /usr/local/pine.conf-fixed, there is something similar for the VMS versions. For DOS, I don't think the concept really makes sense. Note that all you can do with this is prevent users from accidently using certain things. A determined user can always recompile a version of pine for herself that by-passes the -fixed files. -jeff Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ "An `alternative paradigm' is the first refuge of the incompetent" --LM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 11:17:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13100; Tue, 23 Jan 96 11:17:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17711; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:59:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17705; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:59:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tensu-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 10:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Having PINE access subdirectories other than ~/mail In-Reply-To: im14u2c@cegt201.bradley.edu's message of 22 Jan 1996 22: 09:43 -0600 Message-Id: References: <4e1n27$2qh@cegt201.bradley.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 17:35:41 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <4e1n27$2qh@cegt201.bradley.edu> im14u2c@cegt201.bradley.edu (Joe Zbiciak) writes: How do I have pine show a list of folders in another directory (other than ~/mail, which is the current default)? I've tried various "Goto Folder" commands, and have tried to make sense of the online help available from the Folder List screen. So far, I and a number of other people have been unsuccessful in doing what would seem to be a relatively simple task. All that I would like to do is show pine folders in another directory that is not a subdirectory of ~/mail. (I'm able to open individual files in other directories, if I know the name in advance. That is not what I'm trying to ultimately accomplish, however.) Pine does not really have a file browser, if that's what you seek. However, there are ways to accomplish related tasks in conjunction with pine: 1. Just Ctrl-Z out of pine and perform a directory listing from the shell prompt. This requires having set pine's enable-suspend feature. 2. Create a pine folder-collection that comprises the directory you have in mind. For instance, I use (an expanded version of) folder-collections=home_directory [] Selecting List from the Main Menu then gives the opportunity to list the file (folders, in pine's view) in the home_directory collection. 3. Often pine's enable-tab-completion feature can be utilized to construct part or all of a partially known filename. Hope this helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 12:14:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15756; Tue, 23 Jan 96 12:14:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19544; Tue, 23 Jan 96 11:59:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19538; Tue, 23 Jan 96 11:59:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teosM-00038TC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 11:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: No individual configurations? Date: 22 Jan 1996 21:58:52 GMT Message-Id: <4e11as$3us@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Library Management Associates (libmgmt@world.std.com) wrote: : Is there a way to have just one configuration file for all of our users, : without having individual accounts being able to change their own : configurations and override the main configuration? A quick and incomplete solution would be to chown (change owner) of .pinerc so that it is owned by root with permissions -rw-r--r-- (or set up a symbolic link to some such file). Hope that helps. -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 13:11:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19315; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:11:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24523; Tue, 23 Jan 96 12:59:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24517; Tue, 23 Jan 96 12:59:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tepmx-00038TC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 12:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Hi!!! In-Reply-To: mullaney@fc.hp.com's message of 22 Jan 1996 21: 35:42 GMT Message-Id: References: <0099C93D.A131AAD5.1143@ccr.dsi.uanl.mx> <4e0vve$3us@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 17:45:40 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <4e0vve$3us@fcnews.fc.hp.com> mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) writes: : I have a mail in Mime, i dont know how down in pine Based on the Spanish text below, Soledad meant: I have a mail in Mime, i dont know how to download it using pine I also have problems when people post news using MIME. My answer is to ignore it. Sorry! One convoluted possibility is to save the attachment to a file using pine, if necessary apply an external MIME decoder such as munpack (available in ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack/), and -- if everything worked -- externally download the decoded files. Hope this helps, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 13:54:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21178; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:54:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22827; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:45:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22820; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:45:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teqVX-00038UC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stephanie Hobrock Subject: Re: PC-Pine, and return address. Date: 23 Jan 1996 02:59:36 GMT Message-Id: <4e1iuo$scd@news.isbe.state.il.us> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: HELP!!!!! I have been sending messages and giving my ISBE address as my online address, but I don's know how to find out if I am getting any reply from these people. Can you Please help me From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 13:55:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21229; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:55:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26110; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:45:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26102; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:44:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teqVX-00038TC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: PC-Pine, and return address. Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 15:00:09 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I just installed PC-Pine and sent a message, I noticed that the return address on the message (as sent) was garbled: rosullawonw.com@aww.com I set the account to rosully, and the domain to aww.com, in the configuration. Did I miss something trivial? thanks Rick __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- Cookie De Jour -------------- He who slings mud loses ground. --Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 14:04:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21574; Tue, 23 Jan 96 14:04:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26127; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:45:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26115; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:45:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teqVY-00038VC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stephanie Hobrock Subject: Re: PC-Pine, and return address. Date: 23 Jan 1996 03:00:47 GMT Message-Id: <4e1j0v$scd@news.isbe.state.il.us> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: HELP!!!!! I have been sending messages and giving my ISBE address as my online address, but I don's know how to find out if I am getting any reply from these people. Can you Please help me"Richard P. O'Sullivan" wrote: > I just installed PC-Pine and sent a message, I noticed that the >return address on the message (as sent) was garbled: > > rosullawonw.com@aww.com > > I set the account to rosully, and the domain to aww.com, in the >configuration. Did I miss something trivial? thanks > >Rick > __ __ __ __ __ __ >---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- >Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan >http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com >--------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- > >Cookie De Jour >-------------- >He who slings mud loses ground. > --Chinese Proverb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 14:07:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21736; Tue, 23 Jan 96 14:07:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22815; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:44:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22809; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:44:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teqVX-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 13:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rfreeman@flowbee.interaccess.com (Richard E. Freeman) Subject: Bouncing to Newsgroups? Date: 23 Jan 1996 00:20:08 GMT Message-Id: <4e19jo$q6i@nntp.interaccess.com> Status: O X-Status: I see that you can now bounce, ie redirect with the same From: line, mail to another address. I'd like to be able to bounce mail to the newsgroup I moderate, keeping the same From: line so it doesn't look like everything in the newsgroup came from me, and add an Approved: line while I'm at it. Any ideas? (If you try using the bounce command you'll see what I mean) Thanks, Rich Freeman -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 15:58:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26812; Tue, 23 Jan 96 15:58:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25980; Tue, 23 Jan 96 15:50:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25972; Tue, 23 Jan 96 15:50:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tesP4-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 15:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: im14u2c@cegt201.bradley.edu (Joe Zbiciak) Subject: Having PINE access subdirectories other than ~/mail Date: 22 Jan 1996 22:09:43 -0600 Message-Id: <4e1n27$2qh@cegt201.bradley.edu> Status: O X-Status: Our university recently decided to support the Pine mailer here on campus, much to the combined delight and dismay of many people. I'm one of the student consultants here, and I am asked to support this mailer. I have little experience with Pine/Pico, as I prefer to use Elm/Vi. Mailer preferences aside, I've run into a question for which I'm unable to come with an answer: How do I have pine show a list of folders in another directory (other than ~/mail, which is the current default)? I've tried various "Goto Folder" commands, and have tried to make sense of the online help available from the Folder List screen. So far, I and a number of other people have been unsuccessful in doing what would seem to be a relatively simple task. All that I would like to do is show pine folders in another directory that is not a subdirectory of ~/mail. (I'm able to open individual files in other directories, if I know the name in advance. That is not what I'm trying to ultimately accomplish, however.) (Note: I do not speak for my school, my employer, or anybody else for that matter. Thanks.) --Joe -- ============= Joe Zbiciak ============= - - - - - im14u2c@bradley.edu - - - - - ... Ain't coming out goofy like - -http://ee1.bradley.edu/~im14u2c/ - the Fruit-of-the-Loom guy ... ======#include ====== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 16:12:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27748; Tue, 23 Jan 96 16:12:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29397; Tue, 23 Jan 96 15:50:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29391; Tue, 23 Jan 96 15:50:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tesP4-00038TC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 15:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: svegas@pixi.com (Sandra Vegas) Subject: Editing Signature Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 17:56:11 -1000 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I know how to put my signature in pico, but now that I want to change it, how do I edit the signature I already have? =Sandi Vegas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 16:57:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00329; Tue, 23 Jan 96 16:57:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27750; Tue, 23 Jan 96 16:50:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27744; Tue, 23 Jan 96 16:50:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tetNR-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 16:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:29:52 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org> <3104ED18.24EC@mail.cyberspy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3104ED18.24EC@mail.cyberspy.com> Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Stephen J. Weihman wrote: : Paul O Bartlett wrote: : > On 21 Jan 1996, Brian J Barbazon wrote: : > > Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function : > > [...] : > Assuming you are using the current version 3.91 of Pine, go into : > Setup and Config from the Main Menu. Scroll down and add a : > customized-header Return-receipt-to: your-email-address : It's my understanding - ie, correct me if I'm wrong - that the : Return-receipt-to will only return when the destination machine receives the : mail, not when it is actually read by the recipient. I don't know of any : current means to do such. You are correct. If you get a return receipt back at all, it means nothing more than that the receiving system got it. You get no information about when, if ever, the destined recipient opened the mail. There are a few proprietary email systems that do provide this mail-opened type of receipt, but they are external to the Internet as such. So far as I now at present, there is no way to enforce a mail-opened receipt. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 17:43:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02772; Tue, 23 Jan 96 17:43:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02794; Tue, 23 Jan 96 17:35:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02788; Tue, 23 Jan 96 17:35:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teu6F-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 17:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marc Mosthav Subject: Re: Signatures in Pine Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 18:30:56 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4e0bom$pai@senior.nectec.or.th> Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Apatt wrote: > Could somebody please tell me how to put signatures at the end of > Pine messages? > > Thanks / Apatt > > > Just create a signature file. Then set it in Setup/Config/signature-file and set Setup/Config/signature-at-bottom. Marc ------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Mosthav email: mmo@globalnet.co.uk 37B Royal Road Home Tel.: +44-121-354 63 49 Sutton-Coldfield Work Tel.: +44-121-322 66 77 West Midlands Work Fax: +44-121-328 91 62 B72 1SP England MIME-mail appreciated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 17:52:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03007; Tue, 23 Jan 96 17:52:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29188; Tue, 23 Jan 96 17:45:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29182; Tue, 23 Jan 96 17:45:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0teuF4-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 17:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Wolfgang Thiess <100715.1106@CompuServe.COM> Subject: Article posting via UUCP? Date: 23 Jan 1996 10:30:13 GMT Message-Id: <4e2dbl$64e$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Status: O X-Status: Hello *! I use Pine for mail and news. My link to the Internet is via uucp / uux. Unfortunately Pine refuses to post articles via uux. I don't have defined an NNTP-server since I don't need one, but Pine insists on it. Is there a magic configuration trick to post articles via uux? System: Intel-PC, Linux 1.2.12, smail, Pine 3.91. Mail RX and TX and news RX work fine. Thanks a lot for any help! Detlef. PS: Due to the above problems this article got posted by a colleague. Please reply to dema@astrax.hanse.de. Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 18:59:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04719; Tue, 23 Jan 96 18:59:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03974; Tue, 23 Jan 96 18:50:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03968; Tue, 23 Jan 96 18:50:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tevHS-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 18:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: Pine Manual Date: 23 Jan 1996 16:39:43 GMT Message-Id: <4e330f$ngb@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <4e3042$l0q@nsls1.nslsilus.org> Status: O X-Status: Kay Weisman (kweisman@nslsilus.org) wrote: : I am trying to help a new pine user learn the ropes. How do I download : (or save or mail to myself) the pine manual listed in the Help section. I'm not sure, but if you have access to the WWW, check out URL: http://www.cac.washington.edu:1180/pine/user-guide/index.html It has links to many categories of functionality. -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 19:56:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06257; Tue, 23 Jan 96 19:56:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01128; Tue, 23 Jan 96 19:50:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01122; Tue, 23 Jan 96 19:50:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tewBS-00038RC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 19:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rslux@link-net.com (rslux) Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 06:39:27 GMT Message-Id: <4e49ks$94q@maureen.teleport.com> References: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> <30F0383F.58C2@nttex.com> <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:53:28 GMT, mob@celestion.com (Martin Roberts) uttered the following: >In article <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> lukvdh@tornado.be (Luk Van de Heyning) writes: >>Joe Savage wrote: >>>I am currently running an evaluation copy of post.office and it out performs all the >>>others. It's easy to setup and administer and I would recommend it highly for a small to >>>medium size lan. >>Perhaps you could be so kind to let us know where to find it? Any URL >>to it? Http://www.software.com It's great. ==++==++==++==++== Rachel Luxemburg RSLux@link-net.com LinkAmerica Internet Access www.link-net.com info@link-net.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 20:07:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06521; Tue, 23 Jan 96 20:07:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04968; Tue, 23 Jan 96 20:00:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04962; Tue, 23 Jan 96 20:00:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tewJQ-00038TC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 19:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simon@epsilon.win-uk.net (Simon Ho) Message-Id: <198@epsilon.win-uk.net> Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 02:35:02 GMT Subject: Can I use Pine on a UUCP link?. Status: O X-Status: Hi I have a two-tier service with my ISP, UUCP and TCP/IP, but I wish to get Pine running on my UUCP link. At the moment I am setting up elm and tin which I know can be used on the UUCP link from someone else with my ISP. The only thing is that I prefer Pine for email - from my uni days :). rgds Simon ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Simon Ho |'In a world ruled by women tel: 0589 152498 | there would be no war, email: simon@epsilon.win-uk.net | just tense negotiations rt1hos@doc.ntu.ac.uk |every 28 days' -- Robin Williams http://www.doc.ntu.ac.uk/~rt1hos/simon.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 21:25:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08278; Tue, 23 Jan 96 21:25:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02452; Tue, 23 Jan 96 21:20:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02446; Tue, 23 Jan 96 21:20:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0texcd-00038TC; Tue, 23 Jan 96 21:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Editing Signature Date: 23 Jan 1996 07:14:41 GMT Message-Id: <4e21t1$jcv@guava.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Sandra Vegas (svegas@pixi.com) wrote: : I know how to put my signature in pico, but now that I want to change it, : how do I edit the signature I already have? : =Sandi Vegas Type: pico press enter Type: ^R (control + r) Type: .signature press enter Edit: your filename (.signature) Type: ^X (control + x) Save it as filename .signature that's: dot s i g n a t u r e or: period s i g n a t u r e Hope this helps ... BYE ... /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 23 22:34:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10312; Tue, 23 Jan 96 22:34:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03422; Tue, 23 Jan 96 22:28:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cadul.cadul.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03416; Tue, 23 Jan 96 22:28:50 -0800 Received: (from mlists@localhost) by cadul.cadul.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id HAA24628; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 07:00:18 GMT Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 07:00:18 +0000 (GMT) From: pseudo account f|r mailing lists To: Sandra Vegas Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Editing Signature In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Sandra Vegas wrote: > I know how to put my signature in pico, but now that I want to change it, > how do I edit the signature I already have? > =Sandi Vegas > The signature is a normal text file. It is the file .signature in your HOME-directory or the file listed in setup:signature-file Norbert ============================================================================== Phone: +49 731 937600 CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de Germany sales@cadul.de WWW: http://www.cadul.de ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 01:53:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15392; Wed, 24 Jan 96 01:53:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10201; Wed, 24 Jan 96 01:41:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10195; Wed, 24 Jan 96 01:41:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tf1gQ-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 01:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@evo.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Editing Signature Date: 23 Jan 1996 09:37:33 GMT Message-Id: <4e2a8t$gr7@ratatosk.uio.no> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , svegas@pixi.com (Sandra Vegas) writes: >I know how to put my signature in pico, but now that I want to change it, >how do I edit the signature I already have? >From your command prompt you can probably give the command pico .signature Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 01:55:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15432; Wed, 24 Jan 96 01:55:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06239; Wed, 24 Jan 96 01:41:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06233; Wed, 24 Jan 96 01:41:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tf1gS-00038TC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 01:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Nathan L. Cutler" Subject: Pine and intermittent SLIP connection Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 09:30:00 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Anybody use Pine with an intermittent PPP/SLIP connection? I'm having trouble getting messages sent with Pine to queue up in the sendmail queue and I was wondering if anybody out there could help me troubleshoot. Thanks in advance. Nathan L. Cutler Prague, Czech Republic From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 03:00:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17883; Wed, 24 Jan 96 03:00:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11038; Wed, 24 Jan 96 02:46:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11032; Wed, 24 Jan 96 02:46:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tf2gy-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 02:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Control: cancel Subject: cancel Message-Id: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 20:44:28 GMT Status: O X-Status: -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 05:55:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23183; Wed, 24 Jan 96 05:55:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09715; Wed, 24 Jan 96 05:41:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09709; Wed, 24 Jan 96 05:41:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tf5Pn-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 05:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Stephen J. Weihman" Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 09:13:44 -0500 Message-Id: <3104ED18.24EC@mail.cyberspy.com> References: <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Paul O Bartlett wrote: > > On 21 Jan 1996, Brian J Barbazon wrote: > > > Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function > > by which a system-generated message is automatically sent back to the > > sender when the e-mail in question is "opened". If this function is > > available, how would I find or use it? Any help would be most appreciated > > as I am a novice user of the Pine system. > > Assuming you are using the current version 3.91 of Pine, go into > Setup and Config from the Main Menu. Scroll down and add a > customized-header Return-receipt-to: your-email-address It's my understanding - ie, correct me if I'm wrong - that the Return-receipt-to will only return when the destination machine receives the mail, not when it is actually read by the recipient. I don't know of any current means to do such. -- -- Stephen -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- Stephen J. Weihman -*- GTE Data Services -- ------------------------------------------------------- -- The opinions expressed herein are entirely my -- -- own, and are not necessarily those of GTE. -- ------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 07:10:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24925; Wed, 24 Jan 96 07:10:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14580; Wed, 24 Jan 96 06:56:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14574; Wed, 24 Jan 96 06:56:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tf6ca-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 06:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rslux@link-net.com (rslux) Subject: Re: Help with Mail Servers WinNT Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 17:44:36 GMT Message-Id: <4e5gk7$r6n@maureen.teleport.com> References: <30EF5309.5690@compuserve.com> <30F0383F.58C2@nttex.com> <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 11:53:28 GMT, mob@celestion.com (Martin Roberts) uttered the following: >In article <4cptet$1tj@tornix.tornado.be> lukvdh@tornado.be (Luk Van de Heyning) writes: >>Joe Savage wrote: >>>I am currently running an evaluation copy of post.office and it out performs all the >>>others. It's easy to setup and administer and I would recommend it highly for a small to >>>medium size lan. >>Perhaps you could be so kind to let us know where to find it? Any URL >>to it? Http://www.software.com It's great. ==++==++==++==++== Rachel Luxemburg RSLux@link-net.com LinkAmerica Internet Access www.link-net.com info@link-net.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 07:47:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26179; Wed, 24 Jan 96 07:47:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11118; Wed, 24 Jan 96 07:17:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11112; Wed, 24 Jan 96 07:17:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tf6rr-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 07:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kweisman@nslsilus.org (Kay Weisman) Subject: Pine Manual Date: 23 Jan 1996 09:50:26 -0600 Message-Id: <4e3042$l0q@nsls1.nslsilus.org> Status: O X-Status: I am trying to help a new pine user learn the ropes. How do I download (or save or mail to myself) the pine manual listed in the Help section. Many thanks. Kay Weisman kweisman@nslsilus.org -- Kay Weisman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 08:45:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28671; Wed, 24 Jan 96 08:45:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16294; Wed, 24 Jan 96 08:17:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16288; Wed, 24 Jan 96 08:17:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tf7r6-00038TC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 08:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jamesmcl@teleport.com (James McLochlann) Subject: Where to get PC-Pine? Date: 24 Jan 1996 16:08:03 GMT Message-Id: <4e5lh3$slh@maureen.teleport.com> Status: O X-Status: Hello, Is there anyone out there who can tell me where/how to get a copy of pine that'll run on my pc? -- James McLochlann ... jamesmcl@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~jamesmcl To do is to be. Do be, do be, do... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 09:29:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01526; Wed, 24 Jan 96 09:29:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13460; Wed, 24 Jan 96 08:57:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13454; Wed, 24 Jan 96 08:57:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tf8VM-00038TC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 08:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: Limits to "cc"? In-Reply-To: gfarber@panix.com's message of 19 Jan 1996 18: 51:44 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4dpaqg$lml@panix2.panix.com> Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 22:49:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <4dpaqg$lml@panix2.panix.com> gfarber@panix.com (Gary Farber) writes: I'd like to know what the limit is as to how many people you can put into the "To:" line, as well as the "cc:" line and "Bcc:" line. I've had trouble sending to over 25 or so people at a time per line, but haven't been able to figure out a precise limit. I couldn't find anything in the man pages about it. What do you know? Or is this a "sendmail" total limit, and if so what is the total limit? Does it matter how one divides the names between those three "send" lines? As I recall there was indeed a version of sendmail, perhaps around 8.6.9, with a bug that caused this problem. The fix is to upgrade sendmail. Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 09:49:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02891; Wed, 24 Jan 96 09:49:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17792; Wed, 24 Jan 96 09:12:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17786; Wed, 24 Jan 96 09:12:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tf8js-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 09:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rick@helix.nih.gov (Rick Troxel) Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? In-Reply-To: bjb01@www.gnofn.org's message of 21 Jan 1996 18: 19:56 -0600 Message-Id: References: <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 17:02:41 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org> bjb01@www.gnofn.org (Brian J Barbazon) writes: Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function by which a system-generated message is automatically sent back to the sender when the e-mail in question is "opened". Nope; but you could ask your correspondent to reply in order to confirm receipt. The closest to what you describe is the Return-Receipt header described in other posts. Note that this (if you get one) confirms _delivery_ on the remote system, rather than having been accessed by the recipient. Regards, -- Rick Troxel Rick_Troxel@nih.gov rick@helix.nih.gov 301/496-4824 /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// All effort and exertion put forth by man from the fullness of his heart is worship, if it is prompted by the highest motives and the will to do service to humanity. --Abdu'l-Baha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 10:08:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03703; Wed, 24 Jan 96 10:08:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14295; Wed, 24 Jan 96 09:22:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14289; Wed, 24 Jan 96 09:22:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tf8tX-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 09:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eholst@rain.org (Eric R. Holst) Subject: Re: No individual configurations? Date: 24 Jan 1996 15:48:13 GMT Message-Id: <4e5kbt$9vu@news.rain.org> References: <4e11as$3us@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Status: O X-Status: David Mullaney (mullaney@fc.hp.com) wrote: : Library Management Associates (libmgmt@world.std.com) wrote: : : Is there a way to have just one configuration file for all of our users, : : without having individual accounts being able to change their own : : configurations and override the main configuration? : A quick and incomplete solution would be to chown (change owner) of : .pinerc so that it is owned by root with permissions -rw-r--r-- This WON'T work! Assuming the user(s) own and have write permissions on their home directory, they can delete the .pinerc, even if w/ the owner/permissions stated above. : (or set up a symbolic link to some such file). See above^ : Hope that helps. : -- : + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + : + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + : + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + : + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + Eric -- /Eric R. Holst-(brewer_&_patriot)--------------Office Systems Coordinator\ | C$erve 76527,162 | | mailto:eholst@rain.org Ventura County Library Services Agency | | http://www.rain.org/~eholst http://www.ventura.org/vclib/venlsa.htm | \finger:eholst@rain.org FOR MY PGP PUBLIC KEY----------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 10:45:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05394; Wed, 24 Jan 96 10:45:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15501; Wed, 24 Jan 96 10:01:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15495; Wed, 24 Jan 96 10:01:41 -0800 Received: (jgordon@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.6.10/8.5) id MAA06982; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:01:21 -0600 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:01:21 -0600 (CST) From: Jeffrey D Gordon To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine for SCO Unix Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi: We have unixware 2.01 which is SCO compatible. Any hints on how I can get a working copy of pine to work on our Unixware 2.01 Server. The machine hardware is an HP, LM Pentium Server with SCSI hard disks. Thanks. Jeff Gordon. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 10:55:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06160; Wed, 24 Jan 96 10:55:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19584; Wed, 24 Jan 96 10:22:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19572; Wed, 24 Jan 96 10:22:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tf9nQ-00038TC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 10:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: Where to get PC-Pine? Date: 24 Jan 1996 17:11:24 GMT Message-Id: <4e5p7s$j89@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <4e5lh3$slh@maureen.teleport.com> Status: O X-Status: James McLochlann (jamesmcl@teleport.com) wrote: : Is there anyone out there who can tell me where/how to get a copy of : pine that'll run on my pc? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ no promises there! ;-) But you might start by visiting the URL: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine or this ftp site: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 11:09:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06929; Wed, 24 Jan 96 11:09:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16842; Wed, 24 Jan 96 10:52:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16836; Wed, 24 Jan 96 10:52:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfAGG-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 10:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pierre Joris Subject: READONLY files Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 08:42:58 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Got myself somehow into a READONLY situation in my pine INBOX & can't find the switch to get out... help wld be appreciated... pierre ======================================================================= Pierre Joris | "Form fascinates when one no longer has the force Dept. of English | to understand force from within itself. That SUNY Albany | is, to create." -- Jacques Derrida Albany NY 12222 | tel&fax:(518) 426 0433 | "Poetry is the promise of a language." email: | -- Friedrich Holderlin joris@cnsunix.albany.edu| ======================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 11:57:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09617; Wed, 24 Jan 96 11:57:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21830; Wed, 24 Jan 96 11:37:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21824; Wed, 24 Jan 96 11:37:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfAxK-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 11:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Patrick Kern Subject: Using a global address book with PC-Pine Date: 24 Jan 1996 17:53:39 GMT Message-Id: <4e5rn3$5e4@ridge.xplor.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: how would i setup/configure a global address book on my remote imap server? i use pc-pine and this seems to be the only setup that has been unresolved. can i use a global address book with pc-pine/imap? thanks pat kern From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 12:29:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11697; Wed, 24 Jan 96 12:29:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19337; Wed, 24 Jan 96 12:12:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail1.cern.ch by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19331; Wed, 24 Jan 96 12:12:36 -0800 Received: from ues7 (ues7.cern.ch) by mail1.cern.ch with SMTP id AA18683 (5.67b8+/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:12:34 +0100 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:12:33 +0100 (MET) From: Alessandro MIOTTO X-Sender: miotto@ues7 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: standard path for mailcap files: is it going to stay? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I posted this message two weeks ago without getting replies. Sorry for the repetition, but I think the subject is important enough. Our site maintains a software repository available on all Unix workstations under the /usr/local hierarchy. This obviously includes pine and a global mailcap file, so I have been asked to modify pine in such a way that it reads the mailcap file from /usr/local/etc (which is under site control) rather than /etc (which under the sysadm control). I have then found the following lines in mailcap.c: [...] /* * We've decided not to implement the RFC1524 standard minimum path, because * some of us think it is harder to debug a problem when you may be misled * into looking at the wrong mailcap entry. */ #ifdef DOS #define MC_PATH_SEPARATOR ';' #else /* !DOS */ #define MC_PATH_SEPARATOR ':' #define MC_STDPATH ".mailcap:/etc/mailcap" #endif /* !DOS */ [...] and this in RFC1524: [...] For UNIX, a path search of mailcap files is specified. The default path search is specified as including at least the following: $HOME/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap:/usr/etc/mailcap:/usr/local/etc/mailcap [...] Is it possible that in the coming version of pine "some of you" are going to reconsider the RFC1524 standard minimum path? Alessandro --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Alessandro Miotto - CN/DCI/UES | Tel: +41 22 767 9576 CERN - European Laboratory | Fax: +41 22 767 7155 for Particle Physics | E-mail: miotto@mail.cern.ch CH-1211 Geneve 23 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 13:32:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15935; Wed, 24 Jan 96 13:32:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21620; Wed, 24 Jan 96 13:17:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21614; Wed, 24 Jan 96 13:17:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfCXN-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 13:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jose Rodriguez Subject: help Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 14:55:30 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: how do you switch back between the text of a posting and the posting list. I am a first time unix user. Please help. Also how do I subscribe to a newsgroup? I joined this one without knowing what I was doing. How do you unsubscribe? Jose From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 14:52:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20019; Wed, 24 Jan 96 14:52:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23629; Wed, 24 Jan 96 14:31:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23623; Wed, 24 Jan 96 14:31:50 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10226; Wed, 24 Jan 96 14:31:46 -0800 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 14:31:44 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Alessandro MIOTTO Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: standard path for mailcap files: is it going to stay? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If you note a few lines below the comments you quoted, Pine does support the MAILCAPS environment variable, as specified in RFC1524, to override the default path. I don't forsee going beyond that in future releases... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Alessandro MIOTTO wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:12:33 +0100 (MET) > From: Alessandro MIOTTO > X-Sender: miotto@ues7 > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: standard path for mailcap files: is it going to stay? > Message-ID: > > I posted this message two weeks ago without getting replies. Sorry for > the repetition, but I think the subject is important enough. > > Our site maintains a software repository available on all Unix > workstations under the /usr/local hierarchy. This obviously includes > pine and a global mailcap file, so I have been asked to modify pine > in such a way that it reads the mailcap file from /usr/local/etc > (which is under site control) rather than /etc (which under the sysadm > control). > > I have then found the following lines in mailcap.c: > > [...] > /* > * We've decided not to implement the RFC1524 standard minimum path, because > * some of us think it is harder to debug a problem when you may be misled > * into looking at the wrong mailcap entry. > */ > #ifdef DOS > #define MC_PATH_SEPARATOR ';' > #else /* !DOS */ > #define MC_PATH_SEPARATOR ':' > #define MC_STDPATH ".mailcap:/etc/mailcap" > #endif /* !DOS */ > [...] > > and this in RFC1524: > > [...] > For UNIX, a path search of mailcap files is specified. The default > path search is specified as including at least the following: > > $HOME/.mailcap:/etc/mailcap:/usr/etc/mailcap:/usr/local/etc/mailcap > [...] > > Is it possible that in the coming version of pine "some of you" are > going to reconsider the RFC1524 standard minimum path? > > Alessandro > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Alessandro Miotto - CN/DCI/UES | Tel: +41 22 767 9576 > CERN - European Laboratory | Fax: +41 22 767 7155 > for Particle Physics | E-mail: miotto@mail.cern.ch > CH-1211 Geneve 23 | > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 15:13:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21160; Wed, 24 Jan 96 15:13:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27643; Wed, 24 Jan 96 14:57:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27637; Wed, 24 Jan 96 14:57:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfE7u-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 14:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mccrae@hweng.syr.ge.com Subject: Re: long delays when entering Newsgroups field Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 13:50:35 -0500 Message-Id: <31067F7B.59E2B600@hweng.syr.ge.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Zachary H Leber wrote: > > When I move my cursor through the Newsgroups: field in the header, > Pine freezes for about 30 seconds. I am using a remote NNTP server. > Is this normal? The amount of time seems to depend on how quickly the NNTP server makes the connection. On days when my remote NNTP server is slow, it takes a while for the connection to be made. It looks like Pine will sit there until 1) it gets a connection or 2) it gets an error message. Lotus -- --------------------------------------------------------- mccrae@hweng.syr.ge.com "It is wise to apply the oil of refined politeness to the mechanism of friendship." --Colette From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 16:40:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25081; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:40:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29759; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:12:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29753; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:12:11 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id RAA18076 for ; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 17:12:01 -0700 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.13]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id RAA26492; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 17:12:05 -0700 Received: by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id RAA79054; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 17:12:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 17:12:05 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Including a list in Bcc: field? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have a client with a list of 300+ addresses, not in Pine addressbook format, that he wants to send a single message to. In addition, he wants the list to be in blind-carbon format so that recipients do not have to wade through screenfuls of addresses before getting to the message. The list, as it's formatted right now, would probably work fine if I could get it into the Bcc: field, but I haven't yet successfully done that... Is there a way to read a file in to a Compose header field, and if so, how do you do that? Because of the size of the list editting would probably be almost as bad as entering the addresses individually into the addressbook (this is NOT a user who could ably use something like vi or emacs). Any ideas gratefully accepted... Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) . (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 16:42:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25148; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:42:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26607; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:18:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26601; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:18:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfFNB-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: uj5r@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Andreas Muck) Subject: Re: No individual configurations? Date: 23 Jan 1996 23:15:33 GMT Message-Id: <4e3q6l$dlp@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Library Management Associates (libmgmt@world.std.com) wrote: : Is there a way to have just one configuration file for all of our users, : without having individual accounts being able to change their own : configurations and override the main configuration? pine.conf.fixed See the manpage to find out where to put it. And From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 16:43:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25205; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:43:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26620; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:18:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26614; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:18:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfFNF-00038UC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dong@cabernet.eecs.harvard.edu (Dong Lin) Subject: HELP: customizing user-name in "From: " field Date: 23 Jan 1996 19:35:51 -0500 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Could someone tell me if it is possible to customize user-name in the "From: " field ? I know I can reset personal-name and user-domain, but .pinerc does not let me change the user name. so the "From: " field will end up with something like: "Customized Personal-name" user-name@Customized.User-domain.edu ^^^^^^^^^ I would like to be able to set customized user-name too. Here is why I want to do this: I am travelling to a place where I have to borrow an account. I cannot telnet to my own host because the delay and loss rate are intolerable. I want to send email to people and hope they reply or email to my own account. I know I can fix it in the "Reply To:" header field, but what if they use mail instead of reply? I also understand this will allow forging emails, but this is exactly what netscape it configured to do, right? People don't have to use pine to forge mails. thanks very much for your help. Dong Lin -- Dong From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 16:44:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25256; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:44:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29910; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:18:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29904; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:18:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfFNE-00038TC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon Subject: Re: Incorrect Messages and Time Consuming with Empty News Folders Date: Tue, 23 Jan 1996 15:13:51 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: But how about when the news spool is empty; i.e., if you go to that news group, and then hit & for unexclude, Pine will tell you "No messages to unexclude"? Is this what you meant? It's different from when there are simply no *unread* messages in that news group. ___ _ _a' /( <. # Simon Bradley: Knight Protector # / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk # \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(,_(,)' # Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk # <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>, _>, # URL: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ # On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Barry Landy wrote: > I dont see this. With our setup, it simply skips groups with no new news > until it finds one with something to display. No beeps. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 17:03:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26251; Wed, 24 Jan 96 17:03:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00678; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:44:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [129.179.17.11] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00662; Wed, 24 Jan 96 16:44:46 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:43:59 +0800 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 08:43:54 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Paul O Bartlett Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Stephen J. Weihman wrote: > > : Paul O Bartlett wrote: > : > On 21 Jan 1996, Brian J Barbazon wrote: > : > > Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function > : > > [...] > : > Assuming you are using the current version 3.91 of Pine, go into > : > Setup and Config from the Main Menu. Scroll down and add a > : > customized-header Return-receipt-to: your-email-address > : It's my understanding - ie, correct me if I'm wrong - that the > : Return-receipt-to will only return when the destination machine receives the > : mail, not when it is actually read by the recipient. I don't know of any > : current means to do such. > > You are correct. If you get a return receipt back at all, it means > nothing more than that the receiving system got it. You get no > information about when, if ever, the destined recipient opened the mail. > There are a few proprietary email systems that do provide this > mail-opened type of receipt, but they are external to the Internet as > such. So far as I now at present, there is no way to enforce a > mail-opened receipt. Just to add an extra wrinkle to this thread. When you request a return-receipt (also called "delivery notification) you may get the DN but it might not come from the end user's system. Some people do not use SMTP based mail systems or mail systems using sendmail. In some cases there are "gateways" between these other email systems. In some cases these gateways are "smart". They are aware that one side supports DNs but the other side does not. So, for messages passing through the gateway they will generate a DN for those messages with requests attached. In some cases the mail may not have been delivered. Yet, you are left with a false sense that it has. Regards, Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 18:01:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28805; Wed, 24 Jan 96 18:01:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02122; Wed, 24 Jan 96 17:43:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02116; Wed, 24 Jan 96 17:43:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfGfB-00038RC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 17:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: feng2473@altair.selu.edu Subject: Pine and attaching a binary Message-Id: <1996Jan24.174201.1152@altair.selu.edu> Date: 24 Jan 96 17:42:01 -0600 Status: O X-Status: I tried to attach a binary file giving the command ctrl J or what ever it said to use, it then put in the dir path and file in the header, but beeped and said at the bottom msg "us <> instead of [] in the file name". Tried this but it does't take. Any suggestions. kmk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 18:18:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29585; Wed, 24 Jan 96 18:18:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28728; Wed, 24 Jan 96 18:03:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28722; Wed, 24 Jan 96 18:03:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfH1K-00038TC; Wed, 24 Jan 96 18:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Byrg Bonnelycke Subject: Re: setting forwarding address Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 20:54:44 -0500 Message-Id: References: <12JAN96.21434180@shrsys.hslc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <12JAN96.21434180@shrsys.hslc.org> Status: O X-Status: Hi: You must: 1) make and edit a file called ".forward" in your home directory; 2) put the COMPLETE Internet address of the receiving person on one line in your new .forward file; 3) you may put as many forwarding addresses as you wish into your .forward file; BUT ONLY ONE ADDRESS PER LINE! 4) the incoming message will also go into one of your own Pine folders, depending on if/how you are using the Unix filter() function. q.v. ;-) 5) if you're not using the filter() function, then the incoming mail will go into your INBOX folder (provided that you have not changed the INBOX folder as the destination folder for un-filtered incoming mail). Greetings, Byrg *---------------------------------------------------------------* | FROM: Byrg E. Bonnelycke Millkern User Support Team | | byrgb@millkern.com Rockville, MD, USA | *---------------------------------------------------------------* On 12 Jan 1996, JOHN BARR wrote: > I'm new to Pine. In other versions of email I have used there is > a way to set a default forwarding address, to automatically forward > all received mail to another address. > > I can't find a way to do this in Pine. > > What did I miss? > > Thanks for any help. > > John Barr > barr@hslc.org > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 24 18:33:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00410; Wed, 24 Jan 96 18:33:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29081; Wed, 24 Jan 96 18:18:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from THOR.INNOSOFT.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29075; Wed, 24 Jan 96 18:18:38 -0800 Received: from INNOSOFT.COM by INNOSOFT.COM (PMDF V5.0-5 #2001) id <01I0EC729SIA96VKM7@INNOSOFT.COM>; Wed, 24 Jan 1996 18:18:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 18:18:16 -0800 (PST) From: Portia Shao Subject: Re: Pine and attaching a binary In-Reply-To: <1996Jan24.174201.1152@altair.selu.edu> To: feng2473@altair.selu.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 24 Jan 1996 feng2473@altair.selu.edu wrote: > I tried to attach a binary file giving the command ctrl J or what ever it said > to use, it then put in the dir path and file in the header, but beeped and said > at the bottom msg "us <> instead of [] in the file name". Tried this but it > does't take. Any suggestions. I think you are using PMDF's Pine, you should make sure you have the latest version because some bugs in this area had been fixed. ask your system manager to contact service@innosoft.com to get a new version. > > kmk > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | /portia portia@innosoft.com | | Innosoft International Inc. (818)919-3600 voice, (818)919-3614 fax| | 1050 East Garvey Ave South, West Covina, CA 91790 | +--- http://www.innosoft.com/www_root/doc/app-notes/popnimap.html ---+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 01:18:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10718; Thu, 25 Jan 96 01:18:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08794; Thu, 25 Jan 96 01:04:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08788; Thu, 25 Jan 96 01:04:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfNXQ-00038RC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 01:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ED 593 Subject: Selecting Newsgroups Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 21:20:27 -0900 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to use wild cards when subscribing or unsubscribing from Usenet newsgroups from within Pine? Or do you need to do it one-at-a-time or manually edit .newsrc? Thanks. Tom McGrane raed293@aurora.alaska.edu or tftfm@aurora.alaska.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 01:21:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10792; Thu, 25 Jan 96 01:21:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05242; Thu, 25 Jan 96 01:04:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05236; Thu, 25 Jan 96 01:04:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfNYD-00038TC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 01:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stan Mulder Subject: Possible to create a list of newsgroups for posting? Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 03:08:38 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Using Pine 3.91, can I specify a list of newsgroups for posting? I'd like an abbreviated way of doing this rather than selecting each newsgroup each time. Email appreciated. -Stan- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Stan Mulder -- mulder@csee.usf.edu http://grad.csee.usf.edu/Farhad/mulder/homepage.html Information Systems C/C++ -- University of South Florida, Lakeland I have two ears, and one mouth. I try to remember this ratio. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 03:41:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14011; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:41:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06986; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:24:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06980; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:24:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfPlB-00038TC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: felix@emf.net (Felix Fine) Subject: Having trouble finding pine3.91 makefile for HP-UX 10.0.... Date: 25 Jan 1996 10:19:15 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I just downloaded 'pine3.91.tar.Z' from ftp.cac.washington.edu, and I uncompressed it and I "tar"-ed it. So, all the files are out in the open, but I can't find any files that mention HPUX 9.0 or 10.0- and we're using 10.0 at the school where I work. I don't know what argument to apply to the 'build' command. The closest makefiles I found are for HP/UX 8.0 (called 'makefile.hpp'). I am worried that this 8.0 version of HP/UX might be too different for me to be able to use the corresponding makefiles to build our 'pine' application from the cource code. I know we also have the option of downloading the binaries, but that scares me even more AND moreover, it would take ANOTHER three hours! So, that's too much of a gamble if there's an easy answer. Can anyone offer advice, or a makefile, for HP/UX 10.0 'pine building'???? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Mitchell Boucher Computer Sys. Admin San Francisco Art Institute (415) 749-4538 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 03:46:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14107; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:46:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10608; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:24:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10602; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:24:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfPlB-00038UC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mkchang@net2.hkbu.edu.hk (CHANG MAN KIT) Subject: How to convert elm mail folder to PINE? Date: 25 Jan 1996 10:10:57 GMT Message-Id: <4e7kvh$u9i@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Status: O X-Status: Is there any program that convert my elm mail folder to the one used by PINE? Thanks for your help. Man Kit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 03:49:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14200; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:49:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10600; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:24:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10594; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:24:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfPlA-00038RC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 03:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: felix@emf.net (Nameless) Subject: Is there a pine, Eudora, POP or general mail mailing list? Date: 25 Jan 1996 10:05:17 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: If anyof you know of a pine-oriented or Eudora-oriented or POP-server-oriented mailing list, or even a mailing list which is simply similar in content to this newsgroup, could you please tell me the adress where I send mail to subscribe to it, and what it is called? Thanks in advance. Mitchell Boucher Computer Sys. Admin (415) 861-5673 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 04:51:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16310; Thu, 25 Jan 96 04:51:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08116; Thu, 25 Jan 96 04:39:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08109; Thu, 25 Jan 96 04:39:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfQuL-00038RC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 04:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? Date: 25 Jan 1996 02:26:44 GMT Message-Id: <4e6pp4$mja@guava.epix.net> References: <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org>, <4e5g5j$e2@kasey.umkc.edu> Status: O X-Status: anuja@CSTP.UMKC.EDU wrote: : >On 21 Jan 1996, Brian J Barbazon wrote: : >> Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function : >> by which a system-generated message is automatically sent back to the : >> sender when the e-mail in question is "opened". If this function is : >> available, how would I find or use it? Any help would be most appreciated : >> as I am a novice user of the Pine system. : > : > Assuming you are using the current version 3.91 of Pine, go into : >Setup and Config from the Main Menu. Scroll down and add a : >customized-header Return-receipt-to: your-email-address : >Be aware, however, that this does not guarnatee that you will get a : >return receipt, as not all receiving systems honor it, and there is : >currently (so far as I know) no Internet-wide requirement that the : >request be honored. : I tried this, but i started getting from the Mail Subsytem when the mail : was successfully delivered and not when it was opened.. is this supposed to : happen? and how do we make it such that we only get a 'RECEIPT' when the : other party "opens" the mail.. ? thanks for any help.. nuj. Nope ... cannot be done ... see paul bartlett's (sp?) response. Hell, if you want a return reciept guaranteeing that the recipient acually got your message, the US Post Office will sell you that for 3 or 4 dollars, but I don't think they actually watch to see if he (she) actually opened it. Hhmmmm ... maybe a new idea ... certified mail (proves you sent it ... well actually not, it proves you sent something) ... return reciept requested (someone got it) ... deliver only to addressee (he/she got the envelope, not sure what's in it though) ... UUhhhh ... wait ... open it and read it (you can read, correct?) ... sign here ... wait, wait, wait, ... did you understand it?? ... sign here ... What, you don't can't sign your name because you're reading someone else's (e)mail ... Damn, where are the internet police when we need them. I want PINE to assure me that not only did you recieve my mail, but you opened it, understood it, and will reply to me before 10 a.m. yesterday. G'Day. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 05:57:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17547; Thu, 25 Jan 96 05:57:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08804; Thu, 25 Jan 96 05:38:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08689; Thu, 25 Jan 96 05:30:17 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:41:23 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA14345; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:39:55 GMT Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:39:55 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: ED 593 Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Selecting Newsgroups In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Not in Pine 3.91 ... apparently there will be a mechanism to select multiple newsgroups in Pine 3.92. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, ED 593 wrote: > > Is there a way to use wild cards when subscribing or unsubscribing from > Usenet newsgroups from within Pine? Or do you need to do it > one-at-a-time or manually edit .newsrc? > > Thanks. > > Tom McGrane > raed293@aurora.alaska.edu or > tftfm@aurora.alaska.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 06:04:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17708; Thu, 25 Jan 96 06:04:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08810; Thu, 25 Jan 96 05:38:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08798; Thu, 25 Jan 96 05:38:01 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:42:12 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id MAA14616; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:40:48 GMT Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:40:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Stan Mulder Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Possible to create a list of newsgroups for posting? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: In the "Newsgroups:" header field type in a comma separated list of newsgroup names. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Stan Mulder wrote: > Using Pine 3.91, can I specify a list of newsgroups for posting? I'd like > an abbreviated way of doing this rather than selecting each newsgroup > each time. > > Email appreciated. > > -Stan- > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Stan Mulder -- mulder@csee.usf.edu > http://grad.csee.usf.edu/Farhad/mulder/homepage.html > Information Systems C/C++ -- University of South Florida, Lakeland > I have two ears, and one mouth. I try to remember this ratio. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 06:55:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19156; Thu, 25 Jan 96 06:55:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09477; Thu, 25 Jan 96 06:27:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccn.cs.dal.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09468; Thu, 25 Jan 96 06:27:50 -0800 Received: by ccn.cs.dal.ca id <11558(2)>; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 10:27:55 -0400 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 10:27:54 -0400 From: "Marsha C. Holmes" To: Jonathan and DearOldDad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? In-Reply-To: <4e6pp4$mja@guava.epix.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi The simple answer to the "Receipt" function is that the "server" you are sending the message to lets you know "it" received the message. This, I found out, does not necessarily mean that the person you are sending the message to actually "read" it (which is why I decided to try this feature). I have since disabled the feature because the Post Office will automatically let me know when a message is not delivered. Why duplicate the effort?! Marsha *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Marsha C. Holmes |\ __ /.| (`\ ac573@ccn.cs.dal.ca _ .| o o |_ ) ) ----------------------(((---(((------------- Homepage: http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ac573/Profile.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Member of HTML Writers Guild - http://www.synet.net/hwg *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 22:26:44 -0400 > From: Jonathan and DearOldDad > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? > > anuja@CSTP.UMKC.EDU wrote: > : >On 21 Jan 1996, Brian J Barbazon wrote: > : >> Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function > : >> by which a system-generated message is automatically sent back to the > : >> sender when the e-mail in question is "opened". If this function is > : >> available, how would I find or use it? Any help would be most appreciated > : >> as I am a novice user of the Pine system. > : > > : > Assuming you are using the current version 3.91 of Pine, go into > : >Setup and Config from the Main Menu. Scroll down and add a > : >customized-header Return-receipt-to: your-email-address > : >Be aware, however, that this does not guarnatee that you will get a > : >return receipt, as not all receiving systems honor it, and there is > : >currently (so far as I know) no Internet-wide requirement that the > : >request be honored. > > : I tried this, but i started getting from the Mail Subsytem when the mail > : was successfully delivered and not when it was opened.. is this supposed to > : happen? and how do we make it such that we only get a 'RECEIPT' when the > : other party "opens" the mail.. ? thanks for any help.. nuj. > > Nope ... cannot be done ... see paul bartlett's (sp?) response. Hell, if > you want a return reciept guaranteeing that the recipient acually got > your message, the US Post Office will sell you that for 3 or 4 dollars, > but I don't think they actually watch to see if he (she) actually opened > it. Hhmmmm ... maybe a new idea ... certified mail (proves you sent it > ... well actually not, it proves you sent something) ... return reciept > requested (someone got it) ... deliver only to addressee (he/she got the > envelope, not sure what's in it though) ... UUhhhh ... wait ... open it > and read it (you can read, correct?) ... sign here ... wait, wait, wait, > ... did you understand it?? ... sign here ... What, you don't can't sign > your name because you're reading someone else's (e)mail ... Damn, where > are the internet police when we need them. I want PINE to assure me that > not only did you recieve my mail, but you opened it, understood it, and > will reply to me before 10 a.m. yesterday. G'Day. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 07:26:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19970; Thu, 25 Jan 96 07:26:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13588; Thu, 25 Jan 96 06:59:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13582; Thu, 25 Jan 96 06:59:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfT4y-00038TC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 06:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jan Arne Fagertun Subject: Re: Having trouble finding pine3.91 makefile for HP-UX 10.0.... Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 14:17:48 +0100 Message-Id: <310782FC.59E2@varme.sintef.no> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Felix Fine wrote: > > but I can't find any files that mention HPUX 9.0 or 10.0- and we're using > 10.0 at the school where I work. I don't know what argument to apply to > the 'build' command. The closest makefiles I found are for HP/UX 8.0 I had the same experience when I tried to conpile for my Linux box. Accidentally, however, I looked at a patch-file (to allow 8-bit mail and news in addition to MIME), and there I discovered that the arguments were listed in one of the source files. So if you go to the source directory, and do a "grep lnx *.c" you'll find in which file they are listed. Good luck. -- | Jan Arne Fagertun | | Research Engineer, SINTEF Applied Thermodynamics and Fluid Dynamics | | Phone : +47 73 59 68 90 Fax : +47 73 59 35 80 | +------------ 950102 (jaf): Linuxers do it with pleasure -------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 07:34:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20259; Thu, 25 Jan 96 07:34:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13771; Thu, 25 Jan 96 07:09:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mango.epix.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13765; Thu, 25 Jan 96 07:08:59 -0800 Received: (jgvd@localhost) by mango.epix.net (8.6.10/950112.08ccg) id KAA04910; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 10:08:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 10:08:36 -0500 (EST) From: Jon To: "Marsha C. Holmes" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Marsha C. Holmes wrote: > Hi > The simple answer to the "Receipt" function is that the "server" you are > sending the message to lets you know "it" received the message. > This, I found out, does not necessarily mean that the person you are > sending the message to actually "read" it (which is why I decided to try ... etc ... > On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jonathan and DearOldDad wrote: > > Nope ... cannot be done ... see paul bartlett's (sp?) response ... > > ... I want PINE to assure me that > > not only did you recieve my mail, but you opened it, understood it, and > > will reply to me before 10 a.m. yesterday. G'Day. Yup, Marsha, I know that ... my post was a (stupid?) tounge-in-cheek response to a guy who wanted to know if someone had actually read his email, and I wuz only trying to point out that that is impossible. BYE. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ Thought for the day: Reality is a crutch for those who don't have a firm grip on fantasy. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 08:09:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21643; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:09:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10903; Thu, 25 Jan 96 07:52:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from studenti.ing.unipi.it by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10897; Thu, 25 Jan 96 07:52:11 -0800 Received: (from s191802@localhost) by studenti.ing.unipi.it (8.6.11/8.6.9) id QAA28465; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 16:53:24 +0100 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 16:53:24 +0100 (MET) From: Daniele Brancati To: Pine Info Subject: Request of information Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am a new user of Pine program and i have a question, if i go away for a few days and somebody send a mail how i can send automatically a message in which there is written that i have gone away and i can't respond, there is way until Pine could respond automatically with a my message? Thank you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 08:29:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22835; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:29:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11445; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:15:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11439; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:15:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfUJj-00038WC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ted Y. Wilson" Subject: Folders: Select here to expand Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 09:36:46 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Two problems with Pine folders: 1. I would like to look at my files on our remote server. There is a folder collection below my inbox which says "Select here to expand" but nothing happens when I hit "V" for select or when I arrow down to that position and hit return. Can I configure Pine so this will be possible? 2. My boss has no news group folder collection on his Pine L screen (folder screen). Similarly, it says select here to expand, but nothing happens. What does he need to do to be able to read news groups from Pine? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 08:40:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23363; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:40:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15081; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:15:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15075; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:15:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfUJj-00038VC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lizlocus@econ.duke.edu Subject: Automatic Reply Date: 25 Jan 1996 13:44:13 GMT Message-Id: <4e81fd$rp3@news.duke.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to send (setup) an automatic reply via Pine? If yes, how? Liz Locus Duke University Durham, NC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 08:43:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23442; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:43:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15060; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:15:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15052; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:14:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfUGe-00038RC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: j_grent@alcor.concordia.ca (Jan Grenth) Subject: DOS pine, starting... Date: 25 Jan 1996 00:47:39 GMT Message-Id: <4e6jvb$i3e@newsflash.concordia.ca> Status: O X-Status: I have a bloated Pine mail box would like to simply transfer the old mail to my PC harddrive, running Pine for DOS. It should be simple, but the program REFUSES to load unless the PC/TCP module is loaded (TSR?). Is there a way to force DOS Pine to run or is there such a module that I can load just to make Pine run? Jan E-mail if possible... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 08:44:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23490; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:44:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11437; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:15:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11431; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:15:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfUJi-00038UC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adreyer@uni-paderborn.de (Achim Dreyer) Subject: Re: ISO-8859-1 character sets Date: 25 Jan 1996 12:50:13 GMT Message-Id: <4e7ua5$2m7@news.uni-paderborn.de> References: <4d3jro$dom@rebecca.albany.edu> <4dgflh$fjt@portal.gmu.edu> <4dicip$so4@ratatosk.uio.no> Status: O X-Status: : In article <4dgflh$fjt@portal.gmu.edu>, : michael piccorossi writes: : > : >Okay, now I understand how to configure PINE so that it can READ the : >ISO character set, but is : >it possible to configure PINE so that users can compose messages using : >the ISO character set? .. another related question : Is it possible to tell PINE that "ISO-8859-1", "ISO 8859-1" and "iso-8859-1" are all the same ?? Ciao, Achim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 08:46:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23636; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:46:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15093; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:15:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15086; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:15:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfUJx-00038XC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 08:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egilk@sn.no (Egil Kvaleberg) Subject: Re: Line length, quoted printable, usenet posting Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:56:54 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > MIME provides a method for labeling and encoding content. ================================================================ For the benefit of readers who do not normally receive messages in the Mime Quoted Printable format, I have converted this little passage to QP as shown below. To add a little realism to it, I have let the letters A, E and O undergo QP-coding, and added the odd extra blank here and there. ================================================================ =09=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =09F=6Fr th=65 b=65n=65fit =6Ff r=65=61d=65rs wh=6F d=6F n=6Ft n=6Frm=61lly= r=65c=65iv=65 m=65ss=61g=65s =20 =09in th=65 Mim=65 Qu=6Ft=65d Unr=65=61d=61bl=65 f=6Frm=61t, I h=61v=65 c= =6Fnv=65rt=65d this littl=65=20 =09p=61ss=61g=65 t=6F QP =61s sh=6Fwn =61b=6Fv=65. T=6F =61dd =61 littl=65 = r=65=61lism t=6F it, I=20 =09h=61v=65 l=65t th=65 l=65tt=65rs =41, =45 =61nd =4F und=65rg=6F QP-c=6Fd= ing, =61nd =61dd=65d =20 =09th=65 =6Fdd =65xtr=61 bl=61nk h=65r=65 =61nd th=65r=65.=09=09=09 =20 =09=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Now imagine that you are one of the vast number of mail recipients not having QP support, and you receive mail written in any of the many languages that require ISO-8859 characters. I have excluded QP info in the header to illustrate the impression this makes on the reader. I hope you will now understand the essence of the rationale behind RFC1428: This existing functionality is reduced by conversion from 8bit text to text encoded in unreadable Base-64 or "garbled" text encoded in quoted printable. I think that you will agree that such a message as shown in my example is really more or less completely garbled from the recipients point of view, indeed "Quoted Unreadable" :-). > What's legal to > *send* is defined by RFC821 and its successors. With the current Internet > mail transport infrastructure, it is not sufficient simply to "announce" > 8bit in the header; indeed, as far as I know, there is no Internet > standard *anywhere* that says it's OK to send unencoded 8bit (much less, > binary) data *unless* by explicit negotiation with the MTA via the > 8BITMIME extension to (E)SMTP defined in RFC-1426. But there are many indications from RFCs that such a practice is indeed commonplace. And RFC1428 "Transition of Internet Mail from Just-Send-8 to 8Bit-SMTP/MIME" clearly discuss the problems generated by uncritical use of MIME QP. And as mentioned in RFC1428, ISO-8859 8 bit messages having been subjected to 7 bit stripping is usually more readable that QP-ed messages anyway. To warn against such problems, the help message for the new "allow-8bit-mail" feature reads: This feature controls the manner in which outgoing email messages containing characters outside the (7bit) US-ASCII set are coded. ... Regretfully, all email agents are not yet 8 bit clean. Consequently, depending on the path email travels, one runs a certain risk that 8 bit characters will become corrupted if this feature is enabled. > Here's the relevant text from the MIME standard: .. > Thus there are > no circumstances in which the "binary" Content-Transfer-Encoding > is actually legal on the Internet. Please read the text carefully. It says "binary", not "8bit". There is a big difference. I've *never* said that "binary" coding should be attempted! 8bit coding involves handling of message regarded as text, which includes adherence to line length restrictions. As an extra precaution against problems by upper bit stripping, I have not allowed characters in the range 80-9F, plus FF. > Because we take some pride in Pine's adherence to Internet standards, it > is always painful to see folks distributing patches, such as your > "just-send-8" patch, which cause Pine to *violate* Internet standards. I *do* understand that you take pride in Pine. It is a very good mail reader, and additionally the source code is very clearly and orderly piece of software. That is why I use it myself. If I have caused pain, I deeply apologize. That was not intentional. I hope I have shown that I have taken precautions to keep this as conforming to current standards and practice as possible. Please also consider that Pine's use of Mime QP on Usenet is considered a definitive violation. Plus the fact that Pine violates RFC1036 in the way signatures are handled. And from my experience, sending Mime QP in email is an impolite thing to do, if not a violation. My patch tries to correct these things. > This is not to say that I *like* the limitations of 821, only that we > are committed to interoperability via Internet standards adherence. Luckily, 8 bit restrictions are now practically out of the way with respect to news. I hope that we can soon come in a position where they will be removed in mail too, and finally also in header subject lines and the like. > As you know, Pine 3.92 will support ESMTP negotiation of 8BITMIME > transport, which is the standards-based solution to the problem. But why do you want to exclude all those who do not use the Pine SMTP server? Why on earth shouldn't at least the sysadmin allow Pine to understand that "ESMTP is spoken here"? A final point: In that we agree that 8bit mail is a Good Thing, how on earth can we ensure that it will be implemented unless we start using it. Many sysadmins will not start converting their sendmail "O7True" settings to "O7False" without a certain degree of pressure put on them. Egil PS: The patch is available from: ftp://ftp.sn.no/user/egilk/patch.pine3.91PL1.gz It also corrects a couple of minor things regarding exported messages and signatures. -- Email: egilk@sn.no Voice: +47 22523641, 92022780 Fax: +47 22525899 Snail: Egil Kvaleberg, Husebybakken 14A, 0379 Oslo, Norway URL: http://www.sn.no/~egilk/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 10:09:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29379; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:09:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13804; Thu, 25 Jan 96 09:34:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13785; Thu, 25 Jan 96 09:34:40 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06194; Thu, 25 Jan 96 09:32:11 -0800 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 09:32:10 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Egil Kvaleberg Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Line length, quoted printable, usenet posting In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Egil Kvaleberg wrote: > Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > MIME provides a method for labeling and encoding content. > But there are many indications from RFCs that such a practice is > indeed commonplace. I challenge you to find *any* Internet standard that says it's OK to "just-send-8" in email. I can't be responsible for other's violations of the standards, so "commonplace" doesn't cut it. (News is different; we agree that Pine should support just-send-8 for News, and it will --even though some in the community hold that this would be a mistake.) > And RFC1428 "Transition of Internet Mail from > Just-Send-8 to 8Bit-SMTP/MIME" clearly discuss the problems generated > by uncritical use of MIME QP. The issue is not that QP is wonderful, it is that unencoded 8bit is illegal, except by explicit negotiation. > And as mentioned in RFC1428, ISO-8859 8 bit messages having been > subjected to 7 bit stripping is usually more readable that QP-ed > messages anyway. Absolutely! And if your patch was to provide an option for stripping the 8th bit rather than "just-send-8", I would have no objection; indeed, we might have adopted it. > > Here's the relevant text from the MIME standard: > .. > > Thus there are > > no circumstances in which the "binary" Content-Transfer-Encoding > > is actually legal on the Internet. > > Please read the text carefully. It says "binary", not "8bit". There > is a big difference. I've *never* said that "binary" coding should be > attempted! 8bit coding involves handling of message regarded as text, > which includes adherence to line length restrictions. As an extra > precaution against problems by upper bit stripping, I have not allowed > characters in the range 80-9F, plus FF. I have read the text carefully, and if you do the same, I'm sure you'll conclude that the *next* paragraph cited makes it clear that the only legitimate way to send 8bit in the current Internet email infrastructure is via the 8BITMIME extension defined in RFC-1426. > Plus the fact that Pine violates RFC1036 in the > way signatures are handled. Are you saying that you are unable to create a .signature file that is 1036 compliant? It's true that Pine doesn't *enforce* any particular signature discipline, but I think it is misleading to say it violates the standard when it is perfectly possible for you to configure it to comply. But this is *way* off topic. > And from my experience, sending Mime QP in email is an impolite thing to > do, if not a violation. It may be impolite, but it is certainly not a violation. And sympathy for recipients who in 1996 still don't have MIME-capable mail readers (which makes the QP encoding invisible to the user) must be limited, since there are so many MIME-aware tools freely available. (Ironically, later in your message you argue that people won't change without some pressure to do so!) > My patch tries to correct these things. It does so by making our mailer violate Internet standards. This is not helpful. If you don't like the standards, participate in the IETF and get them changed. Again, if the patch was to strip the 8th bit to avoid QP, or to support the 8BITMIME extension, there would be no argument. > Luckily, 8 bit restrictions are now practically out of the way with > respect to news. I hope that we can soon come in a position where > they will be removed in mail too, and finally also in header subject > lines and the like. I would prefer this world, too, but it is not the one we live in. > > As you know, Pine 3.92 will support ESMTP negotiation of 8BITMIME > > transport, which is the standards-based solution to the problem. > > But why do you want to exclude all those who do not use the Pine SMTP > server? Why on earth shouldn't at least the sysadmin allow Pine to > understand that "ESMTP is spoken here"? I don't understand what you're saying. I don't know what a "Pine SMTP server" is; Pine works with any SMTP server, and in the future it will take advantage of at least one ESMTP extension: Pine 3.92 will indeed allow the sysadmin to say "ESMTP is spoken here", via the option to negotiate 8BITMIME. > A final point: In that we agree that 8bit mail is a Good Thing, how > on earth can we ensure that it will be implemented unless we start > using it. Many sysadmins will not start converting their sendmail > "O7True" settings to "O7False" without a certain degree of pressure > put on them. Orderly migration is the IETF strategy, and that's what ESMTP and 8BITMIME are all about. It comes down to this: You've decided that the world will be a better place if the Internet standards are ignored and we all "just-send-8". Although I'm sympathetic to the goal, (as previously stated) we are committed to interoperability via Internet standards, so cannot endorse your means to that end. I'm sure we could continue this debate indefinitely, but let's just agree to disagree. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 10:22:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00495; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:22:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14726; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:05:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14720; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:05:28 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29040; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:05:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 02:50:41 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: felix@emf.net (Felix Fine) Subject: Having trouble finding pine3.91 makefile for HP-UX 10.0.... Resent-Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 10:05:22 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I can't tell where to send submissions to your pine-info mailing list: it's not in any of your introductory information! But anyway, I hope this letter makes it to the list... :) I just downloaded 'pine3.91.tar.Z' from ftp.cac.washington.edu, and I uncompressed it and I "tar"-ed it. So, all the files are out in the open, but I can't find any files that mention HPUX 9.0 or 10.0- and we're using 10.0 at the school where I work. I don't know what argument to apply to the 'build' command. The closest makefiles I found are for HP/UX 8.0 (called 'makefile.hpp'). I am worried that this 8.0 version of HP/UX might be too different for me to be able to use the corresponding makefiles to build our 'pine' application from that source code. I also did a grep on my directories for HP, and hp but niether produced any useful output other than what I've already stated. I know we also have the option of downloading the binaries, but that scares me even more, because that's where differences in systems really show up- right? Moreover, it would take ANOTHER three hours to download those to our HP9000! So, that's too much of a gamble, esp. if there's an easy/easier answer. SO, can anyone offer advice, or a makefile, for HP/UX 10.0 'pine building'???? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Mitchell Boucher Computer Sys. Admin San Francisco Art Institute (415) 749-4538 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 10:39:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01572; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:39:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15309; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:25:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15303; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:25:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfWI7-00038RC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Neale Subject: Pine sort by TO field Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 11:50:14 -0500 Message-Id: <3107B4C6.41C6@psycho.psi.vcu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: Is there any way that I can sort by the TO field? I send 100's of messages a month, they all end up in sent-mail, but do I have to eyeball to find all those sent to a particular address?? Mike Neale From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 11:05:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03170; Thu, 25 Jan 96 11:05:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19342; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:42:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19328; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:42:50 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29665; Thu, 25 Jan 96 10:41:03 -0800 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 10:41:01 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Michael Neale Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine sort by TO field In-Reply-To: <3107B4C6.41C6@psycho.psi.vcu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Sorting by To: is not available in Pine 3.91, but will be in Pine 3.92... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Michael Neale wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > From: Michael Neale > Subject: Pine sort by TO field > Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 11:50:14 -0500 > Message-ID: <3107B4C6.41C6@psycho.psi.vcu.edu> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Is there any way that I can sort by the TO field? I send 100's of > messages a month, they all end up in sent-mail, but do I have to eyeball > to find all those sent to a particular address?? > > Mike Neale > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 11:40:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05361; Thu, 25 Jan 96 11:40:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20304; Thu, 25 Jan 96 11:20:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20298; Thu, 25 Jan 96 11:20:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfX9p-00038TC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 11:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Incorrect Messages and Time Consuming with Empty News Folders Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 12:36:35 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Simon wrote: > But how about when the news spool is empty; i.e., if you go to that news > group, and then hit & for unexclude, Pine will tell you "No messages to > unexclude"? Is this what you meant? It's different from when there are simply > no *unread* messages in that news group. I am not sure which way round you are asking this! I see no problems with newsgroups where there are messages but I have previously seen them all. It is not so easy to experiment with empty newsgroups as I dont seem to have any in my list. > > On Tue, 23 Jan 1996, Barry Landy wrote: > > > I dont see this. With our setup, it simply skips groups with no new news > > until it finds one with something to display. No beeps. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 12:19:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07350; Thu, 25 Jan 96 12:19:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18171; Thu, 25 Jan 96 12:10:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18165; Thu, 25 Jan 96 12:10:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfXwZ-00038RC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 12:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: READONLY files Date: 25 Jan 1996 18:24:52 GMT Message-Id: <4e8htk$m2h@guava.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Pierre Joris (joris@csc.albany.edu) wrote: : Got myself somehow into a READONLY situation in my pine INBOX & can't : find the switch to get out... help wld be appreciated... pierre It could mean that you have 2 copies of PINE open, maybe ^Z suspended, then re-opened by typing 'pine' rather than typing 'fg' to bring the suspended pine back to the foreground ... Only a thought ... Maybe someone else has another idea? BYE. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 13:11:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10537; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:11:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22883; Thu, 25 Jan 96 12:55:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22877; Thu, 25 Jan 96 12:55:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfYg6-00038TC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 12:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 20:14:45 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org>, <4e5g5j$e2@kasey.umkc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4e5g5j$e2@kasey.umkc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 24 Jan 1996 anuja@CSTP.UMKC.EDU wrote: > [...] > I tried this, but i started getting from the Mail Subsytem when the mail > was successfully delivered and not when it was opened.. is this supposed to > happen? and how do we make it such that we only get a 'RECEIPT' when the > other party "opens" the mail.. ? thanks for any help.. nuj. To the best of my knowledge, there is *NO* way currently throughout the Internet to force getting a receipt when and only when the recipient opens the mail. Some proprietary email systems will provide such a receipt, but only within those systems themselves. As someone pointed out to me in an email, even the delivery receipt is no guarantee that the mail got to the final destination system, as some intermediate "smart" gateways will generate a receipt. Unfortunately, the delivery receipt remains an "iffy" situation at best. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 13:24:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11438; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:24:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20108; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:15:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20102; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:15:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfYzv-00038TC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lawrld@law.emory.edu (Richard L. Doernberg) Subject: Avoiding the inbox Date: Thu, 25 Jan 96 15:36:09 GMT Message-Id: <4e8819$20k_001@law.emory.edu> Status: O X-Status: With PINE, is it possible for me to direct incoming mail (sent to a list to which I subscribe) automatically to a folder other than the inbox? That is, mail addressed to me would appear in my inbox; mail addressed to the list would appear in another folder that I could check when I wanted to. Richard L. Doernberg Emory University School of Law Atlanta, GA 30322 Phone: 404 727 6836 Fax: 404 727 6850 Email: lawrld@law.emory.edu Web Page: http://www.law.emory.edu/~lawrld From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 13:26:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11514; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:26:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23718; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:17:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23712; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:17:37 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10132; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:17:35 -0800 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:17:35 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Patrick Kern Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using a global address book with PC-Pine In-Reply-To: <4e5rn3$5e4@ridge.xplor.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Alas, addressbook access is beyond the scope of IMAP, but CMU has been working on a companion protocol for accessing config files, etc, that we intend to support as soon as we can. -teg On 24 Jan 1996, Patrick Kern wrote: > how would i setup/configure a global address book on my remote imap > server? i use pc-pine and this seems to be the only setup that has > been unresolved. can i use a global address book with pc-pine/imap? > > thanks > > pat kern From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 13:30:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11746; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:30:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23680; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:15:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23674; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:15:56 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10104; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:15:55 -0800 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:15:54 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: long delays when entering Newsgroups field In-Reply-To: <31067F7B.59E2B600@hweng.syr.ge.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Zachary H Leber wrote: > > When I move my cursor through the Newsgroups: field in the header, > Pine freezes for about 30 seconds. I am using a remote NNTP server. > Is this normal? Zachary, Does this still happen if you set the news-post-without-validation feature? -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 13:31:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11839; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:31:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20364; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:22:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20358; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:22:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfZ2M-00038VC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "D.Davenport" Subject: TEST 1 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 12:59:33 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: TEST ! ****************************************************************************** D.Davenport Prairie Winds Books 267 Whitehorn Road N.E. 403-280-0654 Calgary, Alberta EMAIL TO: Canada T1Y 2A5 pwbooks@freenet.calgary.ab.ca ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 13:37:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12253; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:37:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23666; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:15:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23660; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:15:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfZ0T-00038UC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tom Phoenix Subject: Re: What's + mean in Folder Index? Date: Thu, 11 Jan 1996 14:34:47 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4d3f61$112@twizzler.callamer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4d3f61$112@twizzler.callamer.com> Status: O X-Status: On 11 Jan 1996, Patrick J. Murphy wrote: > Sometimes, when I am using Pine (v3.91) and am in the "Folder Index" mode to > list my mail, there are + signs listed for some of the mail items. That indicates that the message is addressed specifically to you. Without that, it's probably a cc: or something similar. Hope this helps! -- Tom Phoenix http://www.teleport.com/~rootbeer/ rootbeer@teleport.com PGP Skribu al mi per Esperanto! Randal Schwartz Defense: Send mail to From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 13:49:16 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13016; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:49:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23860; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:22:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23853; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:22:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfZ3c-00038WC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il (Yehavi Bourvine (58-4279)) Subject: Re: How to convert VMS MAIL.MAI to Unix Pine ? Message-Id: <1996Jan25.214817.1@vms.huji.ac.il> Date: 25 Jan 96 21:48:17 GMT References: <3103EC84.27BE@embl-heidelberg.de> Status: O X-Status: In article <3103EC84.27BE@embl-heidelberg.de>, "Luca Ida Giovanni TOLDO (Ph.D.)" writes: > Dear Collegues, > I am in the very urgent need of converting existing MAIL.MAI > to Pine Unix format keeping the structure of the several folders... > Any help on suggestions how to accomplish (automatically ) that > is greatly acknowledged. As far as I know there is no such thing. VMS/MAIL file is index sequential (with pointers to text files of the larger messages). If you have there a free C programmer he/she can use the MAIL$ routines (available from VMS-5.4 or something alike) to read the messages one by one and write them in Unix file format. I do not know the Unix mail file format, but I guess it shouldn't be too hard to write something like that. __Yehavi: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 13:51:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13086; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:51:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20438; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:25:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20430; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:25:06 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10266; Thu, 25 Jan 96 13:25:02 -0800 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:25:01 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Joe Zbiciak Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Having PINE access subdirectories other than ~/mail In-Reply-To: <4e1n27$2qh@cegt201.bradley.edu> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You just have to setup a folder collection spec for the directory of interest, e.g. one for the directory Elm uses (~/Mail) would look like: folder-collections= {some-imap-host.bradley.edu}Mail/[*] You can have as many folder collections as you want. Omit the stuff in curly braces if you're not using IMAP. Note that if you do this on a system-wide basis, (in the pine.conf file) you need the patch to 3.91 that has been previously posted to correct an initialization bug. -teg On 22 Jan 1996, Joe Zbiciak wrote: > Our university recently decided to support the Pine mailer here on campus, > much to the combined delight and dismay of many people. I'm one of the > student consultants here, and I am asked to support this mailer. I have > little experience with Pine/Pico, as I prefer to use Elm/Vi. > > Mailer preferences aside, I've run into a question for which I'm unable > to come with an answer: How do I have pine show a list of folders in > another directory (other than ~/mail, which is the current default)? > > I've tried various "Goto Folder" commands, and have tried to make sense > of the online help available from the Folder List screen. So far, I and > a number of other people have been unsuccessful in doing what would seem > to be a relatively simple task. > > All that I would like to do is show pine folders in another directory > that is not a subdirectory of ~/mail. (I'm able to open individual > files in other directories, if I know the name in advance. That is not > what I'm trying to ultimately accomplish, however.) > > (Note: I do not speak for my school, my employer, or anybody else for > that matter. Thanks.) > > --Joe > > > -- > ============= Joe Zbiciak ============= > - - - - - im14u2c@bradley.edu - - - - - ... Ain't coming out goofy like > - -http://ee1.bradley.edu/~im14u2c/ - the Fruit-of-the-Loom guy ... > ======#include ====== > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 14:32:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15598; Thu, 25 Jan 96 14:32:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21446; Thu, 25 Jan 96 14:05:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21440; Thu, 25 Jan 96 14:05:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfZly-00038RC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 14:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "D.Davenport" Subject: Re: TEST 1 HELP Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 13:03:22 -0700 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Why is the TO field showing up in the FROM area in the Index? Any help appreciated. ****************************************************************************** D.Davenport Prairie Winds Books 267 Whitehorn Road N.E. 403-280-0654 Calgary, Alberta EMAIL TO: Canada T1Y 2A5 pwbooks@freenet.calgary.ab.ca ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 16:28:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21432; Thu, 25 Jan 96 16:28:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28766; Thu, 25 Jan 96 16:10:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maze.vsc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28760; Thu, 25 Jan 96 16:10:37 -0800 Received: by maze.vsc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/27Sep94-0126PM) id AA12789; Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:10:36 -0500 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 1996 19:10:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael H. Martel" To: machten@tenon.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Looking for Pine 3.91 for MachTen 4.0.2 . In-Reply-To: <1996Jan25.214817.1@vms.huji.ac.il> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Greetings! Has anyone had a chance to port Pine 3.91 to MachTen 4.0.2 (PPC) ? I just got my 4.0.2 and tried the port myself and ran into problems with L_SET and W_OK in the c-client. Thanks! Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------- Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges michael@maze.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist http://www.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 22:27:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03584; Thu, 25 Jan 96 22:27:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01996; Thu, 25 Jan 96 22:11:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01990; Thu, 25 Jan 96 22:11:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfhMe-00038UC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 22:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: Pine sort by TO field Date: 25 Jan 1996 21:53:38 GMT Message-Id: <4e8u52$lm8@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: <3107B4C6.41C6@psycho.psi.vcu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Michael Neale (neale@psycho.psi.vcu.edu) wrote: : Is there any way that I can sort by the TO field? I send 100's of : messages a month, they all end up in sent-mail, but do I have to eyeball : to find all those sent to a particular address?? You can either set up the configuration of PINE to create separate folders for *EVERY* outgoing message (probably not a good idea unless managed by some PERL scripts) or something really neat.... Add your most common recipients to your address book. Then go back to Edit that entry; I believe you can select F (Fcc) and specify a fully-qualified path to the file where you will store that copy. I've done it with one person and it works great! To be on the safe side, type the address book alias which generates the proper address to be sure that the letter is saved to the right place. Has anyone sent a letter to multiple addresses with personal Fcc's? Did the letter get copied to each file? -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 25 22:28:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03617; Thu, 25 Jan 96 22:28:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05529; Thu, 25 Jan 96 22:11:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05523; Thu, 25 Jan 96 22:11:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfhMd-00038TC; Thu, 25 Jan 96 22:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: Re: Request of information Date: 25 Jan 1996 21:47:37 GMT Message-Id: <4e8tpp$lm8@fcnews.fc.hp.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Daniele Brancati (s191802@studenti.ing.unipi.it) wrote: : I am a new user of Pine program and i have a question, if i go away for a : few days and somebody send a mail how i can send automatically a message : in which there is written that i have gone away and i can't respond, : there is way until Pine could respond automatically with a my message? See man pages, other threads in this group or a pine FAQ about .forward and the vacation -i utility contents of my ~/.forward file when I'm on vacation: \mullaney, "|vacation mullaney" contents of my .vacation.msg file... From: mullaney@fc.hp.com (David Mullaney) Subject: I am on vacation Precedence: bulk I will be out of the office January 10-12, 1996. If you have a question about who to contact, check out the Ignition Team homepage at URL: http://hpfcdn.fc.hp.com/ or my homepage at URL: http://hpfcdn.fc.hp.com/~mullaney/homepage.shtml Have a good week! (You should only get this message once) -David Mullaney ++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++ + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + ++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++ -- + DAVID MULLANEY Mailstop #99, Loctn. 1UN5 (970) 229-7629 + + > Net: mullaney@fc.hp.com http://hpfcdn/ -*- fax 2838 + + > Software Engineer -- Ignition/UDL/OSSD /\/\/\ + + > Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, Colorado _-/\^^/ \ + From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 01:49:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08584; Fri, 26 Jan 96 01:49:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05019; Fri, 26 Jan 96 01:34:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05013; Fri, 26 Jan 96 01:34:14 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:31:26 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA27682; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:30:04 GMT Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:30:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Daniele Brancati Cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: Request of information In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Think of yourself walking to your front door in the morning and picking up the envelopes, opening them, and reading their contents. This is what Pine lets you do: read messages *after* they have been delivered to your electronic mail address. Now think of yourself going away on holiday for some months :-). You would want to ask the postman delivering your letters to "do something" with them. This may involve throwing them away(! - so you could open the front door when you got back?), delivering them to a friand's address, or (if they were Truly Wonderful) pushing the letters through your door but also sending a note back to the sender warning them it might be some time before they get a reply. What I'm trying to say is that you need to intercept the mail *delivery* mechanism in this case; by the time they have been delivered and Pine can get to the messages it is too late. So what you need to do is ask at your local Help Desk or Support Centre how to do this. If you are using a UNIX computer it will almost certainly involve two steps: 1. Set up a filter program to look at arriving messages to determine who the sender is and construct a reply to send back. On most UNIX systems one of these is already available called "vacation". You can read about it and how to use it by giving the "man vacation" command. 2. You then need to persuade the e-mail delivery system to deliver an arriving message into your mailbox AND pass a copy to "vacation" (or whatever filter program you use). This is done by creating a file in your home directory called ".forward" with appropriate contents. If you have "vacation" on your computers its manual page should give you step by step instructions on how to set all this up. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 25 Jan 1996, Daniele Brancati wrote: > I am a new user of Pine program and i have a question, if i go away for a > few days and somebody send a mail how i can send automatically a message > in which there is written that i have gone away and i can't respond, > there is way until Pine could respond automatically with a my message? > > Thank you > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 04:14:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12153; Fri, 26 Jan 96 04:14:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10242; Fri, 26 Jan 96 03:52:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10236; Fri, 26 Jan 96 03:52:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfmfi-00038RC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 03:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@evo.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Avoiding the inbox Date: 26 Jan 1996 10:32:12 GMT Message-Id: <4eaajc$j78@ratatosk.uio.no> References: <4e8819$20k_001@law.emory.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <4e8819$20k_001@law.emory.edu>, lawrld@law.emory.edu (Richard L. Doernberg) writes: >With PINE, is it possible for me to direct incoming mail >(sent to a list to which I subscribe) >automatically to a folder other than the inbox? >That is, mail addressed to me would appear in >my inbox; mail addressed to the list would appear in another >folder that I could check when I wanted to. Pine cannot do it, but you can use a mailfilter for this (eg procmail). (I use a .mailfilter as we run PP) Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 06:42:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15738; Fri, 26 Jan 96 06:42:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12389; Fri, 26 Jan 96 06:21:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watserv1.uwaterloo.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12383; Fri, 26 Jan 96 06:21:49 -0800 Received: from waxwing.uwaterloo.ca by watserv1.uwaterloo.ca with SMTP id ; Fri, 26 Jan 96 09:21:48 -0500 Received: by uwaterloo.ca (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA01394; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:21:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:21:43 -0500 From: stbedi@waxwing.uwaterloo.ca (Sunjay T. Bedi) Message-Id: <199601261421.JAA01394@uwaterloo.ca> Subject: PICO on AIX 4.1 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Md5: DJPRiszOm5aNrSLv6/ylMQ== Status: O X-Status: Hello all, I have a situation here with PICO (version 3.91) and resizing x-windows. The pine-3.91 version of pico dies if you resize the xterm on both AIX = V32 and=20 AIX V41. But the pine-3.89 version of pico does not have this problem. = =20 Can anyone else duplicate this problem? Is this a known bug? Is there = a=20 solution/fix to this problem? NOTE: (I can also duplicate this problem on Solaris 2.5 by resizing the = dtterm=20 windows.) Any help or info would be greatly appreciated. ...Sunjay -- =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Sunjay T. Bedi, (519)888-4567, ext. 3739 /\ /\ =20 stbedi@peacock.uwaterloo.ca / \ / \ =20 University of Waterloo /____\/____\=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 06:56:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15946; Fri, 26 Jan 96 06:56:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09271; Fri, 26 Jan 96 06:38:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from studenti.ing.unipi.it by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09265; Fri, 26 Jan 96 06:38:21 -0800 Received: (from s191313@localhost) by studenti.ing.unipi.it (8.6.11/8.6.9) id PAA21415; Fri, 26 Jan 1996 15:38:19 +0100 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 15:38:19 +0100 (MET) From: Michele Costantino To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, I would like to know how many addresses I can include in my message (I mean in 'Cc') Thanks! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 09:21:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22344; Fri, 26 Jan 96 09:21:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15747; Fri, 26 Jan 96 09:07:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15741; Fri, 26 Jan 96 09:07:49 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.2.15) id AA11273; Fri, 26 Jan 96 12:07:13 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfrfY-000FKZC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 12:10 EST Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:10:36 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problems in "Path: " when posting news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I've recently installed inn-1.4sec for my news server and have pine working with mostly. However, when I post messages, my site-name is listed twice and my user-id is listed instead of not-for-mail. For example: Path: quoininc.com!quoininc.com!jplejacq "inews -h" works correctly and produces: Path: quoininc.com!not-for-mail My system is: pine-3.91 inn-1.4sec gcc-2.6.3 linux-1.2.11 Any ideas on how to correct this? TIA =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin Inc Suite 200 North Voice (local): +1.207.858.0338 124 Mount Auburn Street Voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 Fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. Internet: jplejacq@quoininc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 10:30:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26086; Fri, 26 Jan 96 10:30:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17287; Fri, 26 Jan 96 10:08:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17281; Fri, 26 Jan 96 10:08:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfsWP-00038RC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 10:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Request of information Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 12:00:35 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 25 Jan 1996, Daniele Brancati wrote: > I am a new user of Pine program and i have a question, if i go away for a > few days and somebody send a mail how i can send automatically a message > in which there is written that i have gone away and i can't respond, > there is way until Pine could respond automatically with a my message? Pine will not do this for you. You have to employ some agent which will process the incoming mail and still leave a copy in your mailbox. You did not say what operating system you are using Pine with, so there is no single answer to your question. If you are on some type of Unix system, there is a program called 'vacation' which you may be able to use. Some people use a more elaborate program called 'procmail'. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 10:40:14 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26608; Fri, 26 Jan 96 10:40:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14244; Fri, 26 Jan 96 10:23:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14238; Fri, 26 Jan 96 10:23:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfsjm-00038RC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 10:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Too many open files Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 07:19:18 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: While using Pine for extended periods, I receive this message: Unable to create TCP socket: Too many open files This occurs when I've opened and closed many newsgroups and sent / received several mail messages. I run Pine 24 hours a day. Since AmigaDOS places no limits on the number of open files, I believe Pine must have a MAX_FILES limit. Does Pine properly close files streams that it has opened? Is this an issue for 3.92? If I quit and resume Pine, then all is well. Rick __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- Cookie De Jour -------------- It was Penguin lust... at its ugliest. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 13:55:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07013; Fri, 26 Jan 96 13:55:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19584; Fri, 26 Jan 96 13:37:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from usuhsb.usuhs.mil by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19568; Fri, 26 Jan 96 13:37:21 -0800 Message-Id: <9601262137.AA19568@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Date: 26 Jan 96 16:20:00 EST From: "MIC PHD BRAHATHEESWARA BHASKARB" Subject: Problems with pine To: "pine-info" Status: O X-Status: We at the USUHS have pine version 3.89 in the VAX system. But it does not function to our requirements.The local support staff have not helped me in this regard. Can you please help me in setting pine system working and configured to the requirements.Also can you update help me updating the version to the current one under usage Thanking you, Brahatheeswaran Bhaskar. Phone # 301-295-3556 FAX # 301-295-3512 E-mail: BHASKARB@usuhsb.usuhs.mil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 14:19:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07933; Fri, 26 Jan 96 14:19:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23409; Fri, 26 Jan 96 14:03:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23399; Fri, 26 Jan 96 14:03:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfwEL-00038RC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 14:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mraaum@evo.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) Subject: Re: Folders: Select here to expand Date: 26 Jan 1996 10:13:50 GMT Message-Id: <4ea9gu$j78@ratatosk.uio.no> References: Status: O X-Status: "Ted Y. Wilson" writes: >Two problems with Pine folders: >1. I would like to look at my files on our remote server. >There is a folder collection below my inbox which says >"Select here to expand" but nothing happens when I hit >"V" for select or when I arrow down to that position and >hit return. Can I configure Pine so this will be possible? >From .pinerc: # incoming-folders are those other than INBOX that receive new messages. # Folder syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}folder-path # Use only if you filter incoming email into multiple files or receive # email on several different machines. # Example: # incoming-folders=Consulting {carson.u.washington.edu}filter/to-help, # Widget-Project {carson.u.washington.edu}filter/to-widget, # Old-Student-Acct {imap.berkeley.edu}inbox incoming-folders= >2. My boss has no news group folder collection on his Pine >L screen (folder screen). Similarly, it says select here >to expand, but nothing happens. What does he need to do >to be able to read news groups from Pine? >From .pinerc: # news-collections specifies one or more collections of news groups. # News collection syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[] # Examples: # news-collections=News *[] <-- if your login host carries news # news-collections=Subscribed-Groups *{news.u.washington.edu/nntp}[] news-collections=Subscribed-Groups *{}[] Mrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 14:54:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09598; Fri, 26 Jan 96 14:54:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21229; Fri, 26 Jan 96 14:43:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21221; Fri, 26 Jan 96 14:43:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfwps-00038RC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 14:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ryan Goodwine Subject: Re: Untitled Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 15:52:38 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Would anyone like to be my friend? I am really a very nice person I just want to branch out in my friendships. I am a student at University of Texas-Medical Branch in Galveston (graduate student in physical therapy). Ryan -------------------------------------------------------------------- Ryan Goodwine ryan.goodwine@utmb.edu University of Texas Medical Branch, Galveston -------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 15:25:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11143; Fri, 26 Jan 96 15:25:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25160; Fri, 26 Jan 96 15:13:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25149; Fri, 26 Jan 96 15:13:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfxGw-00038RC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 15:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "E. Hack" Subject: Re: how do I set the time zone in PC PINE? Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 14:03:13 GMT Message-Id: <4eamul$cle@whitbeck.ncl.ac.uk> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , BRUCE@DEVELOPMENT.watstar.uwaterloo.ca (Bruce Campbell) wrote: > >Anyone know how to set the time zone in PC PINE 3.89 ? > >I am in EST (eastern), and PINE thinks I'm in PST (pacific). > >I checked the docs, and cannot find a refercence to time, zone, tz >or anything like that. The following applies to PC-Pine 3.91, as well as 3.89. I just went through this after installing PC-Pine for Winsock on a PC with Windows 95--Windows 95 has timezone specification built in, but Pine doesn't recognise it. The only information I have found on timezones is in the Pine technical notes, which you can read at http://www.washington.edu/pine. You have to set the timezone using the DOS command set TZ=EST [or whatever] I have included this command in my AUTOEXEC.BAT file (I suppose it would also be possible to start Pine from a batch file that included the timezone setting). Ethan Hack | Ethan.Hack@ncl.ac.uk Dept. of Biological and Nutritional Sciences | Phone: +44 191 222 8576 University of Newcastle upon Tyne | Fax: +44 191 222 8684 Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 7RU, UK From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 16:24:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14021; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:24:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26669; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:14:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26663; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:14:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfyEO-00038UC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Carrie L. Wisch" Subject: Help with pine! Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 09:34:29 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I wanted to know if there is anyway to view a picture that someone scanned and sent through e-mail. This is my first time asking a question on here and I would like someone to answer me just so I know if my message went through. Thanks Carrie From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 16:24:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14048; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:24:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23724; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:14:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23718; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:13:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfyEN-00038TC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rahul Dhesi Subject: Re: Line length, quoted printable, usenet posting Date: 26 Jan 1996 13:05:27 GMT Message-Id: <4eajin$k2i@hustle.rahul.net> References: Status: O X-Status: In gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: >The issue is not that QP is wonderful, it is that unencoded 8bit is >illegal, except by explicit negotiation. ... >I have read the text carefully, and if you do the same, I'm sure you'll >conclude that the *next* paragraph cited makes it clear that the only >legitimate way to send 8bit in the current Internet email infrastructure >is via the 8BITMIME extension defined in RFC-1426. Minor nit: 'illegal' and 'legitimate' are orthogonal to 'RFC-conforming'. On second thoughts, make that 'Major nit'. Too many people confuse between RFC conformance and various other qualities such as legality, legitimacy, usefulness, validity, workability, interoperability, and user-friendliness. They forget that RFC conformance is a means to an end, not the end. -- Rahul Dhesi == "...Mark Crispin has the good sense to not blather away in newsgroups..." -- Wayne Hathaway From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 16:35:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14461; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:35:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24158; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:28:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24152; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:28:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tfyTZ-00038RC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 16:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: apattser@mozart.inet.co.th (Apatt) Subject: post article to a Usenet newsgroup using Pine - how? Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 19:56:16 GMT Message-Id: <4ebbne$2bm@senior.nectec.or.th> Status: O X-Status: Emm... the Header says t all really, I'll just repeat it for your convenience: How do I post article to a Usenet newsgroup using Pine? Direct e-mail response will be much appreciated. Best regards / Apatt From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 18:32:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18642; Fri, 26 Jan 96 18:32:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00141; Fri, 26 Jan 96 18:24:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00135; Fri, 26 Jan 96 18:24:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tg0F8-00038RC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 18:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kamrul@ycvax.york.cuny.edu Subject: Problem with pine on Solaris 2.3 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 96 05:19:55 GMT Message-Id: <4earme$ma5@news.cuny.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello I have installed pine on a Sun Sparc Station 20 running solaris 2.3. I have installed in in my account only. In the configuration I have named smtp-server as different machine, lets call it B. B is a relay host. On my machine ( lets call it A) I receive mail by invoking 'mail' at the $ prompt. But I dont see any mail while in pine. However, through pine I can send mail anywhere. It looks like that the INBOX of pine is not somehow connected with sendmail of my machine A. What I mean is that I can send mail out using pine but can not receive mail using pine. But I have no problem sending or receiving mail using the default mailler of Solaris 'sendmail'. I would appreciate any idea or pointer. Thank you Kamrul Ahsan kamrul@ycvax.york.cuny.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 19:10:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19488; Fri, 26 Jan 96 19:10:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27493; Fri, 26 Jan 96 19:04:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27487; Fri, 26 Jan 96 19:04:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tg0t8-00038RC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 19:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holmes@gorilla.nbn.com (Tim Holmes) Subject: return address loses domain??? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 04:07:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: When I send mail via pine, it only puts username@machine-name in the return address. If I use mailx, it puts username@machine-name.domain.com. I tried putting user-domain-name to machine-name.domain.com, but it only changes it if the new value is *different* from the real FQDN. How do I get pine to put the FQDN in the return address. People try to reply, but it won't get out of their domain because of this. Tim Holmes holmes@gorilla.nbn.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 19:54:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20404; Fri, 26 Jan 96 19:54:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01372; Fri, 26 Jan 96 19:49:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01366; Fri, 26 Jan 96 19:49:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tg1bo-00038RC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 19:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aq540@freenet.buffalo.edu (Vince Lobuzzetta) Subject: Re: Newsgroup comp.mail.pine, Articles 13346-13375 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 20:36:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: s there a way to view a letter without paging. I just want the message to stream continuously to the end. Thanks. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 21:23:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22222; Fri, 26 Jan 96 21:23:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29324; Fri, 26 Jan 96 21:19:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29318; Fri, 26 Jan 96 21:19:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tg2yq-00038RC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 21:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: HELP: customizing user-name in "From: " field Date: 25 Jan 1996 02:57:56 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: You can have pine change the FROM line as a customized header IF that functionality is compiled into pine. The file you need to change is: pine3.91/pine/osdep/os-xxx.h Just change the flag ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM and recompile. Jerry On 23 Jan 1996 19:35:51 -0500, Dong Lin wrote: > > >Could someone tell me if it is possible to customize user-name in the >"From: " field ? I know I can reset personal-name and user-domain, >but .pinerc does not let me change the user name. so the "From: " >field will end up with something like: > "Customized Personal-name" user-name@Customized.User-domain.edu > ^^^^^^^^^ >I would like to be able to set customized user-name too. > >Here is why I want to do this: > >I am travelling to a place where I have to borrow an account. I >cannot telnet to my own host because the delay and loss rate are >intolerable. I want to send email to people and hope they reply or >email to my own account. > > >I know I can fix it in the "Reply To:" header field, but what if they >use mail instead of reply? > >I also understand this will allow forging emails, but this is exactly >what netscape it configured to do, right? People don't have to use >pine to forge mails. > > >thanks very much for your help. > > > >Dong Lin >-- > >Dong -- Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 26 21:44:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22628; Fri, 26 Jan 96 21:44:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02918; Fri, 26 Jan 96 21:39:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02912; Fri, 26 Jan 96 21:39:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tg3LH-00038TC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 21:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rigg@dgsys.com (David Rigg) Subject: Reply-to address Date: 24 Jan 1996 17:08:38 GMT Message-Id: <4e5p2m$lsg@hawww.ha.osd.mil> Status: O X-Status: I am using pine in a unix shell account. I want to configure a Reply to line that gives user@domain. When I do, it looks fine on the fcc, but shows up at the other end as user@NODE.domain. The only varition I have seen on this is that if I specify the smtp server (node.domain) explicitly in the pine setup it comes across as user@node.domain (lowercase). Is there a work around for this? I've tried adding a \ to the user@domain with the same result. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 04:37:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00798; Sat, 27 Jan 96 04:37:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04778; Sat, 27 Jan 96 04:30:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04772; Sat, 27 Jan 96 04:30:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tg9gW-00038RC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 04:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "D.Davenport" Subject: WHY do I get the TO: here? Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 03:23:40 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Whenever I send mail lately I get the TO:(addressee) posted in the FROM area. Can anyone hazard a guess as to what I have tweaked that I shouldn't have? Thanks for any help!! ****************************************************************************** D.Davenport Prairie Winds Books 267 Whitehorn Road N.E. 403-280-0654 Calgary, Alberta EMAIL TO: Canada T1Y 2A5 pwbooks@freenet.calgary.ab.ca ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 04:49:49 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01100; Sat, 27 Jan 96 04:49:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08061; Sat, 27 Jan 96 04:45:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08054; Sat, 27 Jan 96 04:45:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tg9uk-00038RC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 04:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bjb01@www.gnofn.org (Brian J Barbazon) Subject: "Receipt" function of Pine? Date: 21 Jan 1996 18:19:56 -0600 Message-Id: <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org> Status: O X-Status: Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function by which a system-generated message is automatically sent back to the sender when the e-mail in question is "opened". If this function is available, how would I find or use it? Any help would be most appreciated as I am a novice user of the Pine system. Thank you, Brian J. Barbazon (bjb01@gnofn.org) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 05:07:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01379; Sat, 27 Jan 96 05:07:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05074; Sat, 27 Jan 96 05:00:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05068; Sat, 27 Jan 96 05:00:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgABm-00038TC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 04:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Bonnie J. Porter" Subject: scandis Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 13:27:36 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Need Help!!! I have a scandinavian keyboard. I would like to be able to use the scandis on pine but I can't seem to figure it out. All my settings are correct on my comp as far as kyb setup but as far as pine setup config I have not done as yet. I understand there may be more to it. Does anyone have the answer? email bporter@gate.net and a big TIA :) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 06:26:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02316; Sat, 27 Jan 96 06:26:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08987; Sat, 27 Jan 96 06:19:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08981; Sat, 27 Jan 96 06:19:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgBQh-00038UC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 06:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: n9146070@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu (Jacob C Kesinger) Subject: Re: restricted text editor, anyone? Date: 17 Jan 96 17:24:23 GMT Message-Id: References: <4d90d6$2kq@faerealm.roc.servtech.com> Status: O X-Status: phoenix@faerealm.roc.servtech.com (Leslie M. Barstow III) writes: :I am looking for a text editor which is easy to use and can be put into a :restricted mode which disallows all shell access, and restricts file saving :and reading. I don't think I quite understand. You want a text editor that can't speak to the filesystem, as it were? Just something for people to type in? For a class or somehting? I prob. misunderstood, but that's what I assume below. :The restricted mode of PICO which is available through PINE is good, but :I can't seem to convince PICO to enter this mode without PINE. I have :tried setting gmode |= MDSCUR in a couple of spots within the source, but I :still get a non-restricted version... I don't have the pico source handy, but what you might do is: 1. Make it suid to user nobody (you do have root access for this, right?) and do the suid in the initialization code. The problem would be that you could still read/write world accessible files. 2. Find the file reading/writing code. Maybe whenever a file is opened for reading/writing you could instead open /dev/null? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 06:30:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02447; Sat, 27 Jan 96 06:30:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05872; Sat, 27 Jan 96 06:24:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pluto.irdu.nus.sg by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05866; Sat, 27 Jan 96 06:24:33 -0800 Received: (aaron@localhost) by pluto.irdu.nus.sg (8.6.11/8.6.4) id WAA20139; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 22:23:21 +0800 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 22:23:19 +0800 (WST) From: Aaron Aw To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Reply-to address using WWW form In-Reply-To: <4e5p2m$lsg@hawww.ha.osd.mil> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, I'm currently using a Web-based form to send an email to any user on the net. The problem is that the form does not perform any email certification or authentication. Hence some of the mail sent from this Web form is bounced and ends up in the mail of webster as the web server is running from the webster account. Is there any way such that a bounce main will bounce to the person on the 'reply-to' address?? I understand that we can choose to use the 'Reply-To' address when replying our email. Just Me, Aaron Aw ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Give me a break here... Internet R&D Unit E-Mail: aaron@irdu.nus.sg Computer Center Phone:(065) 772-8094 National University of Singapore ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 07:36:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03105; Sat, 27 Jan 96 07:36:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06501; Sat, 27 Jan 96 07:32:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06495; Sat, 27 Jan 96 07:32:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgCXq-00038XC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 07:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jamesk@wimsey.com Subject: pine, os2, offline Date: 27 Jan 1996 03:45:36 GMT Message-Id: <4ec750$4k6@wolfe.wimsey.com> Status: O X-Status: i've managed to find a working os2 version of pine (with grateful thanks) to whoever it was put it together) but (as always seems to be the case), i want more.. i use a dailup connection, and i try to stay offline as much as possible. is it possible to configure pine to operate as an offline reader ? i need it to: a) collect all incoming messages from my server, store them locally and mark them deleted on the server. b) allow me to compose messages offline and upload them either the next time i connect or on demand. is this possible, or am i dreaming ? jamesk@wimsey.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 08:18:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03636; Sat, 27 Jan 96 08:18:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10097; Sat, 27 Jan 96 08:13:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10091; Sat, 27 Jan 96 08:13:14 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03751; Sat, 27 Jan 96 08:13:12 -0800 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 08:13:04 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: jamesk@wimsey.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine, os2, offline In-Reply-To: <4ec750$4k6@wolfe.wimsey.com> Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine does not yet support either offline or disconnected operation. It's planned for the future, though. -teg On 27 Jan 1996 jamesk@wimsey.com wrote: > i've managed to find a working os2 version of pine (with grateful thanks) to > whoever it was put it together) but (as always seems to be the case), i want > more.. > > i use a dailup connection, and i try to stay offline as much as possible. is > it possible to configure pine to operate as an offline reader ? > > i need it to: > > a) collect all incoming messages from my server, store them locally and > mark them deleted on the server. > > b) allow me to compose messages offline and upload them either the next > time i connect or on demand. > > is this possible, or am i dreaming ? > > jamesk@wimsey.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 08:42:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03963; Sat, 27 Jan 96 08:42:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10358; Sat, 27 Jan 96 08:36:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10352; Sat, 27 Jan 96 08:36:31 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.2.15) id AA29481; Sat, 27 Jan 96 11:35:55 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tg2Cv-000FKZC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 23:25 EST Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 23:25:45 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help with pine! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > I wanted to know if there is anyway to view a picture that > someone scanned and sent through e-mail. This is my first time asking a If your site's mailcap has an entry for the type of picture attached and you have the viewing software, YES. > question on here and I would like someone to answer me just so I know if > my message went through. Yes --- Jean Pierre From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 08:45:03 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04016; Sat, 27 Jan 96 08:45:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10374; Sat, 27 Jan 96 08:36:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10366; Sat, 27 Jan 96 08:36:49 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.2.15) id AA29485; Sat, 27 Jan 96 11:35:56 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tg2IQ-000FKZC; Fri, 26 Jan 96 23:31 EST Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 23:31:26 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Apatt Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: post article to a Usenet newsgroup using Pine - how? In-Reply-To: <4ebbne$2bm@senior.nectec.or.th> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > convenience: How do I post article to a Usenet newsgroup using Pine? >From the main menu, select C (compose). Instead of filling in the To: header, select ^R (rich hdr). You will then see a Newsgroup: header which you can then fill in to post to the desired group. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin Inc Suite 200 North Voice (local): +1.207.858.0338 124 Mount Auburn Street Voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 Fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. Internet: jplejacq@quoininc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 09:20:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04716; Sat, 27 Jan 96 09:20:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10850; Sat, 27 Jan 96 09:17:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10844; Sat, 27 Jan 96 09:17:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgECl-00038TC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 09:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jql3440@is2.nyu.edu (John Lee) Subject: Email tricks Date: 26 Jan 1996 19:38:47 GMT Message-Id: <4ebak7$742@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 09:21:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04819; Sat, 27 Jan 96 09:21:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07678; Sat, 27 Jan 96 09:17:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07672; Sat, 27 Jan 96 09:17:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgECl-00038UC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 09:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jamesk@wimsey.com Subject: pine, os2, i forgot Date: 27 Jan 1996 03:53:05 GMT Message-Id: <4ec7j1$5n0@wolfe.wimsey.com> Status: O X-Status: i'd also much rather it didn't keep asking me for my login name and password each time i start it up.. jamesk@wimsey.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 10:16:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06010; Sat, 27 Jan 96 10:16:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11634; Sat, 27 Jan 96 10:12:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11628; Sat, 27 Jan 96 10:12:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgF3X-00038TC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 10:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: c415khd@nll.se (Kenneth Hedlund) Subject: Reply and Multipart text messages ? Date: 24 Jan 1996 10:46:00 GMT Message-Id: <4e52l8$akk@flff5.nll.se> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I'm using pine 3.91 and get a lot of mail in which the message text is attached as part 1.0 1.1 ... When doing a reply I can't get pine to include these parts. I would like to comment on the text in these parts and not as a separate message. Have I missed some configuration feature or isn't this possible ? (I'm aware that I can save the attachments and then include them in my reply but that seems unnecessary complicated) Regards -Ken -- ============================================================================ Kenneth Hedlund Email: Kenneth.Hedlund@nll.se Norrbottens Läns Landsting Phone: +46 920 78102 S-971 89 LULEÅ, SWEDEN Fax: +46 920 78112 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 11:02:00 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07030; Sat, 27 Jan 96 11:02:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12285; Sat, 27 Jan 96 10:56:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sangam.ncst.ernet.in by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12273; Sat, 27 Jan 96 10:55:03 -0800 Received: from unipune.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by sangam.ncst.ernet.in (8.6.12/8.6.6) with UUCP id AAA17802 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 00:26:56 +0530 Received: from unipune.UUCP by iucaa (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10866; Sat, 27 Jan 96 23:57:19+050 Received: from cs.unipune.ernet.in by unipune.unipune.ernet.in (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13504; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 23:26:50 +0500 Received: from asterix.cs.unipune.ernet.in (asterix.cs.unipune.ernet.in [192.9.150.2]) by cs.unipune.ernet.in (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id XAA02899 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 23:41:39 +0500 Received: (from u94148@localhost) by asterix.cs.unipune.ernet.in (8.6.12/8.6.12) id XAA09778; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 23:34:55 +0530 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 23:34:55 +0530 (IST) From: Satish Patil To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help sought. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 224 Status: O X-Status: Can someone tell me how the userid may be modified while using Pine. i.e.can one modify the from field in outgoing mails. Thanks in anticipation. Best regards, Satish Patil. e-mail u94148@asterix.cs.unipune.ernet.in From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 11:27:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07500; Sat, 27 Jan 96 11:27:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09280; Sat, 27 Jan 96 11:22:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09274; Sat, 27 Jan 96 11:22:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgG5a-00038TC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 11:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rjames@mesa5.Mesa.Colorado.EDU (Russell D. James) Subject: downloading from PINE to a floppy disk Date: 26 Jan 1996 22:44:23 -0700 Message-Id: <4ece3n$lg@mesa5.mesa.colorado.edu> Status: O X-Status: I have asked this before, but it didn't work. I have a 486 SX 25 laptop computer running Word version 1.0 in Windows 3.1. I access my internet server, which has a UNIX shell and runs PINE 3.89. I am trying to download a message I have saved in a PINE folder to my floppy disk. I know I need to get the message into UNIX, but I am unsure about which directory and how to access the directory when I leave PINE for the UNIX shell. From there, I need to download to Word on my laptop; but I don't know how to do that either. Could someone please lead me by the hand, step by step, in this process. Once I figure it out, I won't need further help, but it is frustrating. Thanks to all who have helped me before.h From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 12:15:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08532; Sat, 27 Jan 96 12:15:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13201; Sat, 27 Jan 96 12:08:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccn.cs.dal.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13195; Sat, 27 Jan 96 12:08:30 -0800 Received: by ccn.cs.dal.ca id <11886(3)>; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 16:10:52 -0400 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 16:10:51 -0400 From: "Marsha C. Holmes" To: Brian J Barbazon Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? In-Reply-To: <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Brian The receipt feature is available in Pine but it only tells you that the Internet Provider received the mail, not that the person you sent it to has read it. I tried it for awhile but decided it was a waste of time. You will know if they didn't receive it because the Post Office takes care of that. If, however, you still want it, it is in the Config. menu of Setup. Marsha *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Marsha C. Holmes |\ __ /.| (`\ ac573@ccn.cs.dal.ca _ .| o o |_ ) ) ----------------------(((---(((------------- Homepage: http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ac573/Profile.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Member of HTML Writers Guild - http://www.synet.net/hwg *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Brian J Barbazon wrote: > Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 20:19:56 -0400 > From: Brian J Barbazon > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: "Receipt" function of Pine? > > Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function > by which a system-generated message is automatically sent back to the > sender when the e-mail in question is "opened". If this function is > available, how would I find or use it? Any help would be most appreciated > as I am a novice user of the Pine system. > > Thank you, > Brian J. Barbazon (bjb01@gnofn.org) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 14:09:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11063; Sat, 27 Jan 96 14:09:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14772; Sat, 27 Jan 96 14:05:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14766; Sat, 27 Jan 96 14:05:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgIhf-00038UC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 14:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dprice@mcs.com (Dennis Price) Subject: Unix Pine 3.90: Alert for New Mail ?? Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 07:01:37 GMT Message-Id: <3109cc72.2841160@news.mcs.net> Status: O X-Status: I'm using Pine 3.90 for Unix, and I do not get any notification when I'm in Pine and new mail arrives. In fact, I've never gotten any notification. I've throughly searched the setup without luck. Can anyone tell me how to fix this?? Could the fact that I'm in read-only mode ("pine -o") affect this at all? (I use this mode because I don't want to change my inbox at all when using Pine - I download my mail via POP at a later time...) Thanks for your help, posts or e-mail welcome. Dennis Price dprice@mcs.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 14:49:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11751; Sat, 27 Jan 96 14:49:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11861; Sat, 27 Jan 96 14:46:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11855; Sat, 27 Jan 96 14:46:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgJIp-00038UC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 14:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: How to convert VMS MAIL.MAI to Unix Pine ? In-Reply-To: <3103EC84.27BE@embl-heidelberg.de> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <3103EC84.27BE@embl-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 22:33:53 GMT Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Luca Ida Giovanni TOLDO (Ph.D.) wrote: > I am in the very urgent need of converting existing MAIL.MAI > to Pine Unix format keeping the structure of the several folders... > Any help on suggestions how to accomplish (automatically ) that > is greatly acknowledged. You can run Yehavi's VMS PINE client and connect to a unix IMAPD and send the folder contents over the net. I do that now and again, although I hadn't tried moving the contents of entire folders in that way. I think it should work. Conversely you ought to be able to run Yehavi's port of IMAPD on the VMS system and connect to it from PINE on the unix system, to much the same effect. Note that MAIL.MAI alone is not enough: VMS MAIL uses also some extra file names to store large items. But if you use the above methods them it should hide the details from you and just do the job for you. good luck From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 17:33:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15143; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:33:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17242; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:20:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17236; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:20:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgLit-00038WC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ac_bhead@uxmail.ust.hk (Leung Wai Kin) Subject: Where my pine cannot send mail? Date: 27 Jan 1996 09:06:00 GMT Message-Id: <4ecpto$7kf@news.ust.hk> Status: O X-Status: Hello, I am a new user to pine, when I have composed the message, I press but pine have no respon and do not send my mail, is there anyone know why? Thank you for you attention, my e-mail is h9314923@hkueee.hku.hk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 17:33:42 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15179; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:33:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13801; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:20:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13795; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:20:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgLit-00038XC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: user@kings.cam.ac.uk (User) Subject: Reading PINE messages on a standalone PC Date: 27 Jan 1996 10:49:51 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I have a limited file space on a PINE based email system which I telnet onto. To gain more space, I have FTPed some of my old PINE folders onto a PC. Is there any software that will allow me to read and file these messages on my desktop (not connected to any network) PC? I have tried using Pegasus mail to access them, but it will not accept the files. Alternately, the files appear to plain text, so I could write a program to access them, but there appears to be no end of message markers, so there is no easy way to break the files up. The crudest solution is to use a text file viewer, but since my files are upwards of 500k this makes finding any individual message difficult, and deleting unwanted messages very tedious. Any suggestions? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 17:44:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15514; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:44:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17449; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:35:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17443; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:35:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgM0Y-00038XC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 17:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gupta@acsu.buffalo.edu (Vijay Gupta) Subject: Pine freezes after writing "Writing Fcc" Date: 28 Jan 1996 00:28:09 GMT Message-Id: <4eefup$9ih@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi ! We have a cluster of IBM RS600 running AIX3.2.5 One machine in the cluster is having a problem. We are using pine 3.91 When I do ^X to send the message, the message is sent but the screen freezes after writing "Writing Fcc" and the only way to come out is to kill that window. Also the process keeps running and cannot be killed even by root. So we have a lot of [pine] processes this way on the system which cannot be killed. The same pine when mounted on other machines in the cluster works fine. Anybody have any idea why it is behaving this way ? Thanks in advance Bye Vijay From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 18:28:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16345; Sat, 27 Jan 96 18:28:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14540; Sat, 27 Jan 96 18:21:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14534; Sat, 27 Jan 96 18:21:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgMiB-00038YC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 18:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gupta@acsu.buffalo.edu (Vijay Gupta) Subject: Re: Pine freezes while trying to write to hard disk Date: 28 Jan 1996 01:21:43 GMT Message-Id: <4eej37$a0a@azure.acsu.buffalo.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , David L Miller wrote: > >On Thu, 18 Jan 1996, Norbert Koch wrote: > >> we use Pine 3.91 on a HP running HP/UX 9.0x. The user data is kept on a >> hard disk of a DEC running Ultrix 4.2a which is also NIS and DNS server >> for our domain. >> >> Whenever one tries to write to hard disk pine freezes and the classical >> deadlock situation occurs. Pine is in sleep mode (therefore, we aren't >> able to kill it) and locks (a) the terminal and (b) the open with >> .lock. This situation is not very promising and some users get a >> bit upset - don't know why ;-)) >> > >Are you using NFS or IMAP to access the mail? If you are using NFS, >you are probably experiencing a file locking failure. The only >reliable way to solve this is to install IMAP service and use it >instead... > How do I find out whether I am using NFS or IMAP to access my mail. I think I have the same problem at my site. We have a cluster of AIX3.2.5 and pine is in /usr/local on one machine and is nfs mounted over all the other machines on that cluster. One one particular machine in the cluster, when trying to send the composed message, it freezes with the message "Writing Fcc". It happens on only this machine in the cluster. After reading the previous post on this subject, I realized that the users who are complaining about this are the ones who have thier home directories nfs mounted from another machine. Thanks in advance Bye Vijay From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 18:47:58 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16766; Sat, 27 Jan 96 18:47:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18231; Sat, 27 Jan 96 18:42:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18225; Sat, 27 Jan 96 18:42:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgN1v-00038UC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 18:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anuja@CSTP.UMKC.EDU Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? Date: 24 Jan 1996 14:36:35 GMT Message-Id: <4e5g5j$e2@kasey.umkc.edu> References: <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org>, Status: O X-Status: >On 21 Jan 1996, Brian J Barbazon wrote: >> Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function >> by which a system-generated message is automatically sent back to the >> sender when the e-mail in question is "opened". If this function is >> available, how would I find or use it? Any help would be most appreciated >> as I am a novice user of the Pine system. > > Assuming you are using the current version 3.91 of Pine, go into >Setup and Config from the Main Menu. Scroll down and add a >customized-header Return-receipt-to: your-email-address >Be aware, however, that this does not guarnatee that you will get a >return receipt, as not all receiving systems honor it, and there is >currently (so far as I know) no Internet-wide requirement that the >request be honored. I tried this, but i started getting from the Mail Subsytem when the mail was successfully delivered and not when it was opened.. is this supposed to happen? and how do we make it such that we only get a 'RECEIPT' when the other party "opens" the mail.. ? thanks for any help.. nuj. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 19:09:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17382; Sat, 27 Jan 96 19:09:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15126; Sat, 27 Jan 96 19:02:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15120; Sat, 27 Jan 96 19:02:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgNIo-00038WC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 18:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Patrick Vaug Landry Subject: Blind carbon copies Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 19:28:20 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I need to send an electronic newsletter to many subscribers and don't want all their names to appear on every piece of mail; is there any provision for Bcc: on AIX pine and if so, how do I enable it? Thanks! Vaughn ============================================================================= Patrick Vaughn Landry Louisiana State University pvl@te6000.otc.lsu.edu plandry@unix1.sncc.lsu.edu ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 21:36:34 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20621; Sat, 27 Jan 96 21:36:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20313; Sat, 27 Jan 96 21:27:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20307; Sat, 27 Jan 96 21:27:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgPby-00038UC; Sat, 27 Jan 96 21:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Raymond DeVoe Subject: Pine/News Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 23:24:40 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I was wondering if it's possible when replying to an article to send a copy via E-Mail, to the poster. -Ray- -- rdevoe@voicenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jan 27 21:37:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20657; Sat, 27 Jan 96 21:37:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17020; Sat, 27 Jan 96 21:28:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sub.sonic.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17014; Sat, 27 Jan 96 21:28:35 -0800 Received: from sonic.Sonic.NET (ron4dino@sonic.net [199.4.118.11]) by sub.Sonic.NET (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id VAA14606 for ; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 21:42:22 -0800 Received: (from ron4dino@localhost) by sonic.Sonic.NET (8.7.3/8.6.10) id VAA19212; Sat, 27 Jan 1996 21:28:16 -0800 Date: Sat, 27 Jan 1996 21:28:11 -0800 (PST) From: Ron Smith To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Bug Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: To any Pine Bug experts, Yesterday, while composing a message to be sent, by computer froze. No commands would activate anything. Even Mac system commands did nothing. So, I had to turn off the machine and re-start. Now, whenever I go into Pine and "compose", I get a message to you want to continue the interrupted message. The cancel command says it has been deleted, but the deletion does not take place. If I say yes to the,"do you want to continue the interrupted message", the screen says Bug In Pine and I get booted off!!! What do I do??? Thanks for any help you can offer, Ron Smith ron4dino.sonic.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 00:06:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23422; Sun, 28 Jan 96 00:06:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22088; Sun, 28 Jan 96 00:02:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from campus.cem.itesm.mx by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22082; Sun, 28 Jan 96 00:02:00 -0800 Received: from academ01 by campus.cem.itesm.mx (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA26533; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 01:57:28 -0600 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 02:01:38 -0600 (CST) From: "LARA A. FERNANDO D." X-Sender: al439753@academ01 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELLO Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi my name is David I'am studing in the ITESM and I want you to make me a favor, of course if you can. I want all the information that you can give. Thank you very much. If you recieve this mail please answer it. * 1976 - 1996 * A N I V E R S A R I O 2222 0000 C A M P U S Tec de Monterrey 2 0 0 E S T A D O 2 0 0 D E 2222 0000 M E X I C O I T E S M From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 00:33:50 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23924; Sun, 28 Jan 96 00:33:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19192; Sun, 28 Jan 96 00:29:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19186; Sun, 28 Jan 96 00:29:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgSNQ-00038UC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 00:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marc Mosthav Subject: Re: Reply-to address Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 20:00:48 +0100 Message-Id: References: <4e5p2m$lsg@hawww.ha.osd.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4e5p2m$lsg@hawww.ha.osd.mil> Status: O X-Status: On 24 Jan 1996, David Rigg wrote: > > > > > I am using pine in a unix shell account. I want to configure a Reply > to line that gives user@domain. When I do, it looks fine on the fcc, > but shows up at the other end as user@NODE.domain. The only varition > I have seen on this is that if I specify the smtp server > (node.domain) explicitly in the pine setup it comes across as > user@node.domain (lowercase). Is there a work around for this? I've > tried adding a \ to the user@domain with the same result. > > To me this sounds like a problem in sendmail (or whatever mail delivery system you're using). If you are using sendmail, then the DF class in /etc/sendmail.cf should be set to $S. >From the example of Steve Hubert: # Choose one of these two lines, the first says your From: addresses should # be of the form: user@dept.washington.edu, the second says they should # be of the form: user@host.dept.washington.edu. DF$S #DF$H Bye Marc ------------------------------------------------------------------- Marc Mosthav email: mmo@globalnet.co.uk 37B Royal Road Home Tel.: +44-121-354 63 49 Sutton-Coldfield Work Tel.: +44-121-322 66 77 West Midlands Work Fax: +44-121-328 91 62 B72 1SP England MIME-mail appreciated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 01:49:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25718; Sun, 28 Jan 96 01:49:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23461; Sun, 28 Jan 96 01:44:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23455; Sun, 28 Jan 96 01:44:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgTaJ-00038UC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 01:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nielsen@primenet.com (Bob Nielsen) Subject: Re: Reading PINE messages on a standalone PC Date: 27 Jan 1996 11:20:02 -0700 Message-Id: <4edqci$msh@nnrp1.news.primenet.com> References: Status: O X-Status: user@kings.cam.ac.uk (User) wrote: >I have a limited file space on a PINE based email system which I telnet >onto. To gain more space, I have FTPed some of my old PINE folders onto a >PC. Is there any software that will allow me to read and file these >messages on my desktop (not connected to any network) PC? I have tried >using Pegasus mail to access them, but it will not accept the files. >Alternately, the files appear to plain text, so I could write a program to >access them, but there appears to be no end of message markers, so there >is no easy way to break the files up. The crudest solution is to use a >text file viewer, but since my files are upwards of 500k this makes >finding any individual message difficult, and deleting unwanted messages >very tedious. Any suggestions? Since the system you are getting the mail from supports tcp/ip, you would probably have the best success if you can get it to send you the mail with a POP server. Then you can use PINE, Pegasus or whatever on your PC to read the mail. My ISP is set up so that I can use PINE from the shell menu of their machine or retrieve any mail using a POP client to my PC for local reading. When I originate a message, it gets sent to the ISP by smtp. I use PINE with Linux and Pegasus with Windows 95 in a dual-boot configuration. They both work very well for this purpose. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 02:35:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26629; Sun, 28 Jan 96 02:35:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20555; Sun, 28 Jan 96 02:31:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20549; Sun, 28 Jan 96 02:31:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgUL3-00038UC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 02:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tommy Quitt Subject: Re: setting forwarding address Date: Tue, 16 Jan 1996 00:43:34 +0200 Message-Id: References: <12JAN96.21434180@shrsys.hslc.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <12JAN96.21434180@shrsys.hslc.org> Status: O X-Status: On 12 Jan 1996, JOHN BARR wrote: > Date: 12 JAN 96 21:43:41 GMT > From: JOHN BARR > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: setting forwarding address > > I'm new to Pine. In other versions of email I have used there is > a way to set a default forwarding address, to automatically forward > all received mail to another address. > > I can't find a way to do this in Pine. > If you are Using Pine for Unix and SendMail, try using a .forward file, and spcify there the address you wish to forward your messages to. More documentation on .forward in "man elm". Good Luck :) Tommy -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Tommy Quitt tommyq@math.tau.ac.il home page: http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~tommyq -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 05:00:46 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29598; Sun, 28 Jan 96 05:00:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22433; Sun, 28 Jan 96 04:52:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22427; Sun, 28 Jan 96 04:52:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgWVj-00038UC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 04:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hmcom@eskimo.com (company account) Subject: mx4.u.washington.edu ??? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 10:43:09 GMT Status: O X-Status: I've noticed that my Linux box from time to time is attempting to send mail to mx4.u.washington.edu. The pine executable does not refer (as far as I can tell) to that host. There are no pending messages to be sent out in my mail queue... Anyone know if this is normal? I decided to trap mail being sent to the address by re-routing stuff for the mx4 address to my local IP - the problem hasn't surfaced again yet... -McDaniel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 06:46:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01128; Sun, 28 Jan 96 06:46:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26822; Sun, 28 Jan 96 06:36:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from athena.bournemouth.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26816; Sun, 28 Jan 96 06:36:33 -0800 Received: by athena.bournemouth.ac.uk (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id OAA13704 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 14:36:26 GMT Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 14:34:12 +0000 From: chamund To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Name before address Message-Id: -100000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Dear Sir/Madam, Can you please tell me how I can change my address to add a name at the front of it. That way I can have a name in front of my address which is currently just chamund@bournemouth.ac.uk I would like people to know who is sending them mail rather than them just receiving my address. If you can help I would be most grateful. Thankyou, Yours, Sunil Chamund. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 07:04:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01333; Sun, 28 Jan 96 07:04:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27002; Sun, 28 Jan 96 06:54:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26996; Sun, 28 Jan 96 06:54:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgYQ5-00038XC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 06:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Richard P. O'Sullivan" Subject: Re: PC-Pine, and return address. Date: Wed, 24 Jan 1996 09:02:44 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Richard P. O'Sullivan wrote: > I just installed PC-Pine and sent a message, I noticed that the > return address on the message (as sent) was garbled: > > rosullawonw.com@aww.com > > I set the account to rosully, and the domain to aww.com, in the > configuration. Did I miss something trivial? thanks Problem resolved. Methinks this was transient and the result of a transmission error on a poorly operating TCP/IP link. Rick __ __ __ __ __ __ ---------------------__/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\__----------------------- Altofirma WebWords /\_\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\_\ Richard P. O'Sullivan http://www.aww.com/ \/_/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/\_\/_/ rosully@aww.com --------------------- \/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/\/_/ ----------------------- Cookie De Jour -------------- Button: Time is an illusion perpetuated by the manufacturers of space. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 08:34:59 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02297; Sun, 28 Jan 96 08:34:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24528; Sun, 28 Jan 96 08:25:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24522; Sun, 28 Jan 96 08:25:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgZnZ-00038XC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 08:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@guava.epix.net (Jonathan and DearOldDad) Subject: Re: downloading from PINE to a floppy disk Date: 28 Jan 1996 07:15:44 GMT Message-Id: <4ef7r0$9fj@guava.epix.net> References: <4ece3n$lg@mesa5.mesa.colorado.edu> Status: O X-Status: Russell D. James (rjames@mesa5.Mesa.Colorado.EDU) wrote: : I have asked this before, but it didn't work. I have a 486 SX 25 laptop : computer running Word version 1.0 in Windows 3.1. I access my internet : server, which has a UNIX shell and runs PINE 3.89. I am trying to download : a message I have saved in a PINE folder to my floppy disk. I know I need to : get the message into UNIX, but I am unsure about which directory and how to While in pine, with the message on-screen press e to (E)xport the message. This will save it as a file in your unix home directory (you will be prompted for a filename). I guess the reason they call it (e)xport, is that the (s)ave command is used to move messages from one pine folder to another, it doesn't really save it a as unix file. : access the directory when I leave PINE for the UNIX shell. From there, I The saved (exported) message will be in a file in your unix home directory, with the filename you gave it when you exported it. : need to download to Word on my laptop; but I don't know how to do that : either. That depends on your communications software. I use windows 3.1 terminal or windows 95 hyperterminal, but you'd have to be more specific. In general you do it the same way you would download any other file ... in window 3.1 for example click on transfers then choose download binary etc then tell it the filename to download then tell it the path and filename where to put it on your pc. I would suggest that you make a directory on your pc called C:\DOWNLOAD or something like that, and download eveything to that, then you won't have to go looking for it in your windows directory, in in your modem directory or wherever. Then when in Word or WordPerfect or whatever, just retrieve c:\download\filename and use it (or move it to a floppy if you wish). : Could someone please lead me by the hand, step by step, in this process. : Once I figure it out, I won't need further help, but it is frustrating. : Thanks to all who have helped me before.h Hope this helps ... feel free to email me or followup post if not clear. /\ /~\/\/\ /\ /\ /\ |>> John (aka DearOldDad) /\ \/\/ / / \/\/ \/\/\/ \/ \/\|Fore! Pocono Mtns PA USA EARTH/__\/_/__/_/___/email_jgvd@epix.net_|_____ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 10:15:15 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04200; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:15:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29066; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:09:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29060; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:09:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgbRZ-00038ZC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shadowfire Subject: Re: help Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:13:36 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 24 Jan 1996, Jose Rodriguez wrote: > how do you switch back between the text of a posting and the posting > list. I am a first time unix user. Please help. Also how do I subscribe > to a newsgroup? I joined this one without knowing what I was doing. How > do you unsubscribe? > > > Jose >To switch between test posting and text press I when look at text. To >unsubscribe from a newsgroup, highlight the newsgroup you want to >unsubscribe to and press D. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 10:16:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04246; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:16:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29051; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:09:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29045; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:09:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgbRa-00038aC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Raymond DeVoe Subject: News Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 11:57:21 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: For the last couple of days, I've been using Pine to read news. I've notice that articles are flagged with the "N" to indicate that they're new articles. Once opened and read, this flag is removed. If I open another folder for news a come back, these same articles are listed with the new flag. The only way I've found to really mark them as read (and remove them permanently) is to do a ";aad" to delete them. Is there something that I'm missing? Is there any easier way to accomplish this? Thanks, Ray -- rdevoe@voicenet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 10:49:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04986; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:49:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29429; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:43:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sun4nl.NL.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29417; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:43:04 -0800 Received: from horn by sun4nl.NL.net via EUnet id AA21202 (5.65b/CWI-3.3); Sun, 28 Jan 1996 19:43:02 +0100 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 19:40:40 +0100 (CEST) From: Nico van der Horn To: chamund Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Name before address In-Reply-To: -100000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, chamund wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam, > > Can you please tell me how I can change my address to add a name > at the front of it. That way I can have a name in front of my > address which is currently just chamund@bournemouth.ac.uk I would > like people to know who is sending them mail rather than them just > receiving my address. > > If you can help I would be most grateful. > > Thankyou, > > Yours, > > Sunil Chamund. This is easy in Pine: Go to the main menu and select Setup, Config. The first field you should see is for a personal name that will be placed in front of your address in the headers. At this point you can use Add, Delete and/or Change to adjust the field to your needs. Normally your correct name should be in the system's accound database (/etc/passwd), in which case Pine automatically derives your name from there (you have to keep this field empty for this to happen). Your Email address is automatically appended to your name (by Pine), so you don't have to enter this yourself. Good luck ! --- nico@vanderhorn.nl (N.J. van der Horn), VANDERHORN VOF, Oranjelaan 40, 3135 ZP Vlaardingen, The Netherlands, Tel +31104600411, Fax +31104342857 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 11:40:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06020; Sun, 28 Jan 96 11:40:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25740; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:09:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25734; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:09:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgbRZ-00038YC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 10:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike O'Connor Message-Id: <960128150815.AA10633@dojo> Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 15:08:15 GMT Subject: Re: How to convert VMS MAIL.MAI to Unix Pine ? References: <3103EC84.27BE@embl-heidelberg.de> Status: O X-Status: In article , Alan J. Flavell wrote: :> I am in the very urgent need of converting existing MAIL.MAI :> to Pine Unix format keeping the structure of the several folders... :> Any help on suggestions how to accomplish (automatically ) that :> is greatly acknowledged. : :You can run Yehavi's VMS PINE client and connect to a unix IMAPD :and send the folder contents over the net. I do that now and [...] :Conversely you ought to be able to run Yehavi's port of IMAPD on :the VMS system and connect to it from PINE on the unix system, This probably ought to have been posted to comp.os.vms. Here's something that might help you out greatly... run this as a VMS .COM file. $! ------------------ CUT HERE ----------------------- $ v='f$verify(f$trnlnm("SHARE_VERIFY"))' $! $! This archive created by VMS_SHARE Version 7.2-007 22-FEB-1990 $! On 10-FEB-1992 14:04:20.74 By user ROB $! $! This VMS_SHARE Written by: $! Andy Harper, Kings College London UK $! $! Acknowledgements to: $! James Gray - Original VMS_SHARE $! Michael Bednarek - Original Concept and implementation $! $! TO UNPACK THIS SHARE FILE, CONCATENATE ALL PARTS IN ORDER $! AND EXECUTE AS A COMMAND PROCEDURE ( @name ) $! $! THE FOLLOWING FILE(S) WILL BE CREATED AFTER UNPACKING: $! 1. V2U_MAIL.FOR;1 $! $set="set" $set symbol/scope=(nolocal,noglobal) $f=f$parse("SHARE_TEMP","SYS$SCRATCH:.TMP_"+f$getjpi("","PID")) $e="write sys$error ""%UNPACK"", " $w="write sys$output ""%UNPACK"", " $ if f$trnlnm("SHARE_LOG") then $ w = "!" $ ve=f$getsyi("version") $ if ve-f$extract(0,1,ve) .ges. "4.4" then $ goto START $ e "-E-OLDVER, Must run at least VMS 4.4" $ v=f$verify(v) $ exit 44 $UNPACK: SUBROUTINE ! P1=filename, P2=checksum $ if f$search(P1) .eqs. "" then $ goto file_absent $ e "-W-EXISTS, File ''P1' exists. Skipped." $ delete 'f'* $ exit $file_absent: $ if f$parse(P1) .nes. "" then $ goto dirok $ dn=f$parse(P1,,,"DIRECTORY") $ w "-I-CREDIR, Creating directory ''dn'." $ create/dir 'dn' $ if $status then $ goto dirok $ e "-E-CREDIRFAIL, Unable to create ''dn'. File skipped." $ delete 'f'* $ exit $dirok: $ w "-I-PROCESS, Processing file ''P1'." $ if .not. f$verify() then $ define/user sys$output nl: $ EDIT/TPU/NOSEC/NODIS/COM=SYS$INPUT 'f'/OUT='P1' PROCEDURE Unpacker ON_ERROR ENDON_ERROR;SET(FACILITY_NAME,"UNPACK");SET( SUCCESS,OFF);SET(INFORMATIONAL,OFF);f:=GET_INFO(COMMAND_LINE,"file_name");b:= CREATE_BUFFER(f,f);p:=SPAN(" ")@r&LINE_END;POSITION(BEGINNING_OF(b)); LOOP EXITIF SEARCH(p,FORWARD)=0;POSITION(r);ERASE(r);ENDLOOP;POSITION( BEGINNING_OF(b));g:=0;LOOP EXITIF MARK(NONE)=END_OF(b);x:=ERASE_CHARACTER(1); IF g=0 THEN IF x="X" THEN MOVE_VERTICAL(1);ENDIF;IF x="V" THEN APPEND_LINE; MOVE_HORIZONTAL(-CURRENT_OFFSET);MOVE_VERTICAL(1);ENDIF;IF x="+" THEN g:=1; ERASE_LINE;ENDIF;ELSE IF x="-" THEN IF INDEX(CURRENT_LINE,"+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+")= 1 THEN g:=0;ENDIF;ENDIF;ERASE_LINE;ENDIF;ENDLOOP;t:="0123456789ABCDEF"; POSITION(BEGINNING_OF(b));LOOP r:=SEARCH("`",FORWARD);EXITIF r=0;POSITION(r); ERASE(r);x1:=INDEX(t,ERASE_CHARACTER(1))-1;x2:=INDEX(t,ERASE_CHARACTER(1))-1; COPY_TEXT(ASCII(16*x1+x2));ENDLOOP;WRITE_FILE(b,GET_INFO(COMMAND_LINE, "output_file"));ENDPROCEDURE;Unpacker;QUIT; $ delete/nolog 'f'* $ CHECKSUM 'P1' $ IF CHECKSUM$CHECKSUM .eqs. P2 THEN $ EXIT $ e "-E-CHKSMFAIL, Checksum of ''P1' failed." $ ENDSUBROUTINE $START: $ create 'f' X `09program v2u_mail X Xc`09convert mail files from VMS to UNIX X Xc`09V2U_MAIL, a hack by Rob Riepel (rob@ssvax1.ssd.loral.com) Xc Xc`09 This program was whipped up to convert my VMSmail to Unix. I Xc`09 hope it works for you too. If you make improvements, please Xc`09 let me know. If you're seriously into hackery, use the callable Xc`09 mail interface to parse through the VMSmail messages, and make Xc`09 sure the Unix mail headers conform to the relevant RFCs. X Xc`09INSTRUCTIONS Xc`09============ Xc Xc`09v2u_mail will will read standard VMSmail files and convert them Xc`09to Unix file files. To use the program, first compile and link Xc`09it. Xc Xc`09 $ FOR V2U_MAIL Xc`09 $ LIN V2U_MAIL Xc Xc`09Next, assign the logical MAIL_DIR to point to the directory where Xc`09all your VMSmail is stashed. Xc Xc`09 $ ASSIGN SYS$LOGIN_DEVICE:`5BMY_HOME.MAIL`5D MAIL_DIR Xc Xc`09Move to the directory where you want the Unix mail folders, and Xc`09run V2U_MAIL. Xc Xc`09 $ SET DEFAULT `5BMY_HOME.UNIX_MAIL`5D Xc`09 $ RUN `5BMY_HOME.V2U_MAIL`5DV2U_MAIL Xc Xc`09A Unix mail file will be created for each folder in your VMSmail. X Xc Xc`09%Id: v2u_mail.for_v 1.2 92/02/10 13:55:22 rob Exp % Xc Xc`09%Log:`09v2u_mail.for_v % Xc`09Revision 1.2 92/02/10 13:55:22 rob Xc`09Increased buffer sizes to handle long lines, from's, subjects, and cc's. Xc`09Added comments, including instructions for use. Xc`09Added RCS keywords. Xc`09 X X`09implicit integer*4 (a-z) X X`09common`09/count/`09mcount X X`09character `09cbuf*2048 X`09integer*4`09ibuf(2048), mcount /0/ X integer*2 `09rlen X`09equivalence`09(cbuf,ibuf) X Xc`09open the mail file, twice X X `09open(`09unit=10, X &`09`09file='mail_dir:mail.mai', X &`09`09access='keyed', X &`09`09key=(1:8:integer,10:48:character), X &`09`09blocksize=2048, X &`09`09organization='indexed', X &`09`09recordtype='variable', X &`09`09form='formatted', X & `09shared, X &`09`09readonly, X &`09`09status='old') X X `09open(`09unit=11, X &`09`09file='mail_dir:mail.mai', X &`09`09access='keyed', X &`09`09key=(1:8:integer,10:48:character), X &`09`09blocksize=2048, X &`09`09organization='indexed', X &`09`09recordtype='variable', X &`09`09form='formatted', X & `09shared, X &`09`09readonly, X &`09`09status='old') X Xc`09read and process the first record X X`09read(10,'(Q,A2048)',keyge='A',keyid=1)rlen,cbuf X`09call process_record(ibuf,ibuf,cbuf,rlen) X Xc`09process the remaining records X`09 X`09do while (1 .eq. 1) X`09 read(10,'(Q,A2048)',end=100)rlen,cbuf X`09 call process_record(ibuf,ibuf,cbuf,rlen) X `09end do X Xc`09we're done, write out the last folder's message count and leave X X 100`09continue X`09if (mcount .gt. 0) write(6,10)null,mcount X 10`09format(a1,i3,' messages') X`09close(10) X`09call exit X`09end X X`09subroutine process_record(bbuf,ibuf,cbuf,rlen) X Xc`09this is where all the work gets done X X`09implicit integer*4 (a-z) X X`09common`09/count/`09mcount X X`09byte`09 bytes(2), bbuf(2048) X`09integer*2 dlen X`09integer*4 ibuf(2048) X`09character cbuf*2048, folder*39, null*1, line*2048, name*80 X`09character from*255, to*255, cc*255, subject*255, date*25 X`09character*3 aday(7) /'Mon', 'Tue', 'Wed', 'Thu', 'Fri', 'Sat','Sun'/ X`09character ctime*80 X`09logical`09 iam X X`09equivalence (dlen,bytes) X X`09save folder, flen X X`09null = char(0) X Xc`09open a new UNIX mail file for each VMS mail folder X X`09len = index(cbuf(10:),null) X`09if (folder(1:flen) .ne. cbuf(10:10+len-1)) then X`09 close(20) X`09 flen = len X`09 folder(1:len) = cbuf(10:10+len-1) X`09 folder(flen+1:) = '.' X`09 if (mcount .gt. 0) write(6,10)null,mcount X 10`09 format(a1,i3,' messages') X`09 mcount = 0 X`09 write(6,20)folder(1:flen) X 20`09 format(1x,'Processing folder ',a,t35,'...',$) X`09 open(20,name=folder(1:flen+1),status='new',recl=2048, X &`09`09 carriagecontrol='list') X`09endif X Xc`09count the messages X X`09mcount = mcount + 1 X Xc`09parse out the from, to, subject, etc... X X`09base = 91 X`09bytes(1) = bbuf(base) X`09bytes(2) = bbuf(base+1) X`09from_len = dlen X`09from = cbuf(base+2:base+from_len+1) X`09from_len_short = index(from,' ') - 1 X X`09base = base + dlen + 4 X`09bytes(1) = bbuf(base) X`09bytes(2) = bbuf(base+1) X`09to_len = dlen X`09to = cbuf(base+2:base+to_len+1) X X`09base = base + dlen + 4 X`09bytes(1) = bbuf(base) X`09bytes(2) = bbuf(base+1) X`09cc_len = dlen X`09cc = cbuf(base+2:base+cc_len+1) X X`09base = base + dlen + 4 X`09bytes(1) = bbuf(base) X`09bytes(2) = bbuf(base+1) X`09subject_len = dlen X`09subject = cbuf(base+2:base+subject_len+1) X Xc`09do the time thing X X`09call lib$day_of_week(ibuf(1),day) X`09call lib$sys_asctim(time_len,ctime,ibuf(1),) X`09ctime(5:5) = char(ichar(ctime(5:5)) + 32) X`09ctime(6:6) = char(ichar(ctime(6:6)) + 32) X`09write(date,30)aday(day),ctime(4:6),ctime(1:2),ctime(13:20),ctime(8:11) X 30`09format(5(1x,a)) X Xc`09write out the mail header X X`09write(20,60)from(1:from_len_short),date, X &`09`09 from(1:from_len_short),date, X &`09`09 to(1:to_len) X`09if (cc_len .gt. 0)write(20,62)cc(1:cc_len) X`09write(20,64)from(1:from_len),subject(1:subject_len) X X 60`09format( 'From ',2a,/, X & 'Return-path: <',a,'>'/, X & 'Date: ',a,/ X & 'To: ',a) X 62`09format( 'Cc: ',a) X 64`09format( 'From: ',a,/, X & 'Subject: ',a,/, X & 'Status: RO',/) X Xc`09attempt to read the body as a mail file record Xc`09and write out the records to the new file X`09 X`09read(11,'(Q,A2048)',keyid=0,key=ibuf(15),err=80)rlen,cbuf X`09base = 49 X X`09do while (base .lt. rlen) X`09 bytes(1) = bbuf(base) X`09 bytes(2) = bbuf(base+1) Xd`09 write(6,*)dlen Xc`09 write(20,'(1x,A)')cbuf(base+2:base+dlen+1) X`09 write(20,'(A)')cbuf(base+2:base+dlen+1) X`09 base = base + dlen + 2 X`09end do X`09write(20,'(/)') X`09return X Xc`09body is in a separte file, open it and copy it to the new Xc`09mail file X X 80`09continue X`09write(name,100)ibuf(15),ibuf(16) X 100`09format('mail_dir:mail$',2Z8.8,'.mai') X`09inquire(file=name,exist=iam) X`09if(.not.iam)write(name,100)ibuf(16),ibuf(15) Xd`09write(6,110)name Xd 110`09format(1x,'>',a,'<') X`09open(12,name=name,status='old',readonly) X 120`09continue X`09 read(12,'(Q,A)',end=140)llen,line Xd`09 write(6,*)llen Xc`09 write(20,'(1x,A)')line(1:llen) X`09 write(20,'(A)')line(1:llen) X`09go to 120 X X 140`09continue X`09write(20,'(/)') X`09close(12) X`09return X`09end $ CALL UNPACK V2U_MAIL.FOR;1 1897075167 $ v=f$verify(v) $ EXIT -- Michael J. O'Connor Internet: mjo@dojo.mi.org InterNIC WHOIS: MJO http://www.coast.net/~mjo "I keep forgetting that rules are only for little nice people." -Calvin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 13:02:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07284; Sun, 28 Jan 96 13:02:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01064; Sun, 28 Jan 96 12:59:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01057; Sun, 28 Jan 96 12:59:01 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22306; Sun, 28 Jan 96 12:58:45 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 12:58:44 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Raymond DeVoe Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Go to the Setup/Config screen and locate the "news-approximates-new-status" feature. Take a look at the help text for that and see if it looks like that might help. -teg On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, Raymond DeVoe wrote: > For the last couple of days, I've been using Pine to read news. I've > notice that articles are flagged with the "N" to indicate that they're > new articles. Once opened and read, this flag is removed. If I open > another folder for news a come back, these same articles are listed with > the new flag. > > The only way I've found to really mark them as read (and remove them > permanently) is to do a ";aad" to delete them. Is there something that > I'm missing? Is there any easier way to accomplish this? > > Thanks, > Ray > > -- > rdevoe@voicenet.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 14:48:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09219; Sun, 28 Jan 96 14:48:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02348; Sun, 28 Jan 96 14:31:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from harpo.tnstate.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02342; Sun, 28 Jan 96 14:31:55 -0800 Resent-From: HAMPTONE@HARPO.TNSTATE.EDU Resent-Message-Id: <9601282231.AA02342@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Received: from HARPO.TNSTATE.EDU by HARPO.TNSTATE.EDU (PMDF V4.3-7 #7185) id <01I0JTM3YTBK8WXKFJ@HARPO.TNSTATE.EDU>; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:31:31 CST Resent-Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:31:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:31:30 -0600 (CST) From: Southern Gent Subject: vms/vax pine Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: thank eU for making pine available for vms 6.1 /vax. my question is: which version of 3.91 do i use? I am currently using pine 3.89 Thank eU once again. Eugene Hampton, II ================================================================================ "Miles To Go Before I Sleep, AOB'93 "Life Can Be So Nice" And Miles To Go Before I Sleep" SUBG'95 MIAKA'95 "HAVING FUN?" #BLACK'95 (Hey Mr. Wilson! Can I Play In Your Yard?) "Free speech carries with it some freedom to listen." Warren Burger ================================================================================ An Egoo Production From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 16:20:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10642; Sun, 28 Jan 96 16:20:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00197; Sun, 28 Jan 96 16:13:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00191; Sun, 28 Jan 96 16:13:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tghAp-00038TC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 16:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Blind carbon copies Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 15:34:07 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Patrick Vaug Landry wrote: > I need to send an electronic newsletter to many subscribers and don't > want all their names to appear on every piece of mail; is there any > provision for Bcc: on AIX pine and if so, how do I enable it? Thanks! Put the cursor anywhere in the header area and press Ctrl-R (for "rich" headers). Look for the Bcc: field. If it is not there, you can go into your configuration and add it. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 16:28:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10758; Sun, 28 Jan 96 16:28:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03580; Sun, 28 Jan 96 16:13:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03574; Sun, 28 Jan 96 16:13:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tghAp-00038XC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 16:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine/News Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 15:35:39 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, Raymond DeVoe wrote: > I was wondering if it's possible when replying to an article to send a > copy via E-Mail, to the poster. When composing your reply, put the cursor anywhere in the header area and press Ctrl-R (for "rich" headers). You should see a To: field, with which you can simultanteously email a copy of your post. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 18:04:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12727; Sun, 28 Jan 96 18:04:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04790; Sun, 28 Jan 96 17:56:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from slip-1.slip.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04784; Sun, 28 Jan 96 17:56:23 -0800 Received: from [204.162.173.74] (sf-pm3-10.slip.net [204.162.173.74]) by slip-1.slip.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA23953 for ; Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:56:11 -0800 Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:56:11 -0800 X-Sender: mab@slip.net Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: felix@emf.net (Felix Fine) (by way of mab@slip.net (Mitchell Boucher)) Subject: Please help- Info on pine3.91 makefile for HP-UX 10.0? Status: O X-Status: I just downloaded 'pine3.91.tar.Z' from ftp.cac.washington.edu, and I uncompressed it and I "tar"-ed it. So, all the files are out in the open, but I can't find any files that mention HPUX 9.0 or 10.0- and we're using 10.0 at the school where I work. I don't know what argument to apply to the 'build' command. The closest makefiles I found are for HP/UX 8.0 (called 'makefile.hpp'). I am worried that this 8.0 version of HP/UX might be too different for me to be able to use the corresponding makefiles to build our 'pine' application from the cource code. I know we also have the option of downloading the binaries, but that scares me even more AND moreover, it would take ANOTHER three hours! So, that's too much of a gamble if there's an easy answer. Can anyone offer advice, or a makefile, for HP/UX 10.0 'pine building'???? I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks in advance. Mitchell Boucher Computer Sys. Admin San Francisco Art Institute (415) 749-4538 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 20:12:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15695; Sun, 28 Jan 96 20:12:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03027; Sun, 28 Jan 96 19:59:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA03018; Sun, 28 Jan 96 19:58:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgkft-00038TC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 19:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.gti.net (What is a Hayes?) Subject: Re: Request of information Date: 28 Jan 1996 18:05:58 -0500 Message-Id: <4egvgm$53i@gti.gti.net> References: Status: O X-Status: try the unix command called 'vacation'... that should work for you 25 Jan 1996 08:08:43 -0800 wrote: : I am a new user of Pine program and i have a question, if i go away for a : few days and somebody send a mail how i can send automatically a message : in which there is written that i have gone away and i can't respond, : there is way until Pine could respond automatically with a my message? : Thank you From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 20:27:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15926; Sun, 28 Jan 96 20:27:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06705; Sun, 28 Jan 96 20:19:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06699; Sun, 28 Jan 96 20:19:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgl0G-00038TC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 20:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sam@csluk.demon.co.uk (Sam Liddicott) Subject: Greedy Pine? Date: Fri, 26 Jan 1996 16:46:44 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: We run pine 3.91 on SCO 3.2v4.2 with 16Meg ram and 20meg swap. Normally the swap is unused (with 24 users). Pine causes some swap to be used, and a LOT in some cases. We could have 10Meg of available ram/swap and one pine session with a 2.2meg file (mime) can crash because there is not enough memory, or fail to fork when sending mail. Is pine particularly greedy with demands on Ram? Does SCO implement forks rather poorly (no page on write?). Whats the opinion and how much swap is reccommened. -- -- Sam Liddicott | Nothing I say is to be attributed as Campbell Scientific Ltd. | a company statement or representation. 14-20 Field Street, Shepshed, *---------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 23:36:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19469; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:36:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05713; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:25:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05707; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:25:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgnwp-00038TC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Freeze Subject: pine 3.91 and MAC-BINHEX Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 22:55:38 -0400 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have linux box and pine 3.91 running. I recieved 2 files attached to my mail in MAC-binhex format and pine cannot view. I keep getting a message that pine cannot view MAC-binhex. Any help would be apreciated. Thanks in advance Brian C. Freeze freezeb@nbnet.nb.ca freezeb@www.deltastar.nb.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 23:51:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19667; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:51:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09388; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:44:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09382; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:44:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgoEK-00038ZC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mika O. Pyyhkala (617) 655-8910" Subject: Re: Anonymous Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:14:41 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Another consideration is the following: While you can modify your "personal name," and "domain," your real address still may be displayed. For example, at Boston College, if we change our domain and personal name, what you enter will show up. However, if you pull up expanded header information (with h while reading a message), there is a slot in their where it shows your actual "real," from address; regardless of any change you make. I am not familiar with how this is pulled up, or if there is a way to change it. Another option is the use of anonymous remailers, which strip out return address info. Send a message to help@anon.penet.fi for info. This is an auto responder, so it doesn't matter what is in your subject or message body. Keep in mind, though, that like most things, these systems are not fullproof. Your system administrator, in theory, could still see your outgoing mail to the anonymous server. I guess it depends on exactly what you are sending the anonymous mail for, and to whom; how concerned you should be. Regards, Mika Pyyhkala From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 23:51:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19695; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:51:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09396; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:44:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09390; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:44:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgoEM-00038bC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wrightti@conch.aa.msen.com (Timothy C. Wright) Subject: Machine locking when reading INBOX Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 17:55:59 -0500 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I am running Linux with PPP and a dynamic IP address. My internet provider is running POP3. Pine will read the remote INBOX correctly only if there is only a few pieces of mail but if there are 15 letters or more, then pine locks up. I have a 28.8 and it should not take very long to download even though I gave it a half hour once. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jan 28 23:54:19 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19756; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:54:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05939; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:44:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA05933; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:44:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgoEL-00038aC; Sun, 28 Jan 96 23:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Mika O. Pyyhkala (617) 655-8910" Subject: Sending To Multiple Recipients Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 16:47:03 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, I need to send a message to multiple recipients, and do now want each persons name/address to be in the body of the message. I understand you can use the BCC field to do this, and have the following questions: __What should be put in the TO field, to avoid confusion. For example, I could put myself, but then it would appear as though I was mailing myself when people read the message. __Is there a way to use a list of addresses for the BCC, rather than typing them in via the compose option spearated by commas. I am using Pine 3.91 for Dos. Thanks in advance, Mika From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 03:31:09 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24298; Mon, 29 Jan 96 03:31:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08513; Mon, 29 Jan 96 03:19:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08507; Mon, 29 Jan 96 03:19:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgrcG-00038TC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 03:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christophe Harbine Subject: Re: How to convert VMS MAIL.MAI to Unix Pine ? Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:48:59 +0100 Message-Id: References: <3103EC84.27BE@embl-heidelberg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3103EC84.27BE@embl-heidelberg.de> Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 22 Jan 1996, Luca Ida Giovanni TOLDO (Ph.D.) wrote: > Dear Collegues, > I am in the very urgent need of converting existing MAIL.MAI > to Pine Unix format keeping the structure of the several folders... > Any help on suggestions how to accomplish (automatically ) that > is greatly acknowledged. > best regards > A colleague of mine just wrote a C programme converting files obtained bye VMSMAIL command EXTRACT/ALL/NOHEADER into Pine Unix Format mail files. It's working quite good since I've just converted about 30 VMSMAIL folders to pine folders whithout any problems. If it can help you, we can send this program to you, just let us know. Amicalement, /\ Christophe / \/\ --------------------------------------------- / / \ Christophe Harbine - Centre de Calcul /\ /\ / /\/ \ Universite de Savoie - Domaine Scientifique / \/\ / \/\/ /\ 73376 Le Bourget du Lac Cedex - France \/ / /\ \ Tel: (33) 79 75 87 54 - FAX: (33) 79 75 88 55 /\ \ / / \/\ Email: chris@univ-savoie.fr \ \ / / \ --------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 04:26:08 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26042; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:26:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12947; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:18:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from amanda.dorsai.org by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12941; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:18:18 -0800 Received: by dorsai.dorsai.org (5.67b/23Dec93-Dorsai Embassy) id AA17135; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:15:51 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:15:51 -0500 (est) From: Walter Schmidt To: pine mailinglist Cc: Walter Schmidt Subject: How do I unsubscribe? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ...cann't find the initial subscribed message, and therein is the problem. How do I signoff from this list? The following is what I've tried, all of which has not "worked" to unsubscribe me...so thanks in advance sent to listserv@cac.washington.edu signoff pine-info, got me a response that the command was invalide sent to listserv@cac.washington.edu info refcard, got me to the next attempt sent to listproc@u.washington.edu help ref.card got me to the next attempt sent to listproc@u.washington.edu for all the following... signoff pine-info got me no such list error lists local got me a list that did not contain pine-info lists global pine got me a zero length list -- nothing had pine So I've done all that I would initially think of, and seeing how the signoff must be sent to either a different server, or, has a different name, or both [leastwise that's what I'm thinking now], would someone tell me the steps necessary to signoff/unsubscribe from this, pine-info, list -- p l e a s e :) --- REgards, walts@dorsai.org ------------- Walter C. Schmidt, CPA - - Computers | http://www.dorsai.org/~walts/ - - Accounting & | Vice President Massapequa Chamber mcc@dorsai.org --- Taxes | Chair Nassau Council Net Access nccc@dorsai.org - - - - 52 Yin (KEN gen) - Mountain above, Mountain below - Mountain "Like the mountain, be still and unmoving, waiting for the right moment..." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 04:39:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26267; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:39:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13047; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:24:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stu.ust.hk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13041; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:24:31 -0800 Received: from ustsu26.ust.hk by stu.ust.hk id <15356-1>; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:00:37 +0800 From: Li Joy Man Michael To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <96Jan29.200037hkt.15356-1+550@stu.ust.hk> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 20:00:31 +0800 Status: O X-Status: unscride pine-info From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 05:08:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27016; Mon, 29 Jan 96 05:08:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13290; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:45:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13284; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:45:33 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:25:31 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA10545; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:23:22 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:23:15 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: anuja@CSTP.UMKC.EDU Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? In-Reply-To: <4e5g5j$e2@kasey.umkc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: 1. Pine allows you to add extra headers beyond the set it offers as standard. You can add these extra headers through the Setup Configuration screen, and use them (when composing a message) by placing the cursor on a header field then typing Ctrl/R. 2. Some additional headers have magical meanings to SOME pieces of software. For example one header REQUESTS the mail delivery agent (the thing which writes the message into the recipient's mailbox) to return a "delivery receipt" when it has done so. 3. Another additional header is one that REQUESTS the mail reading program the recipient uses to generate a "this message has just been read" message and return it to the sender. 4. Not all mail delivery software and/or mail reading software support these REQUESTS. If a site does happen to use software that supports the feature then it is quite possible that the administrators of the site may have disabled the effects, as it can be considered a breach of personal privacy. 5. So try the (as far as I remember two separate) headers by all means. But assume that you will NOT get any acknowledgement, and be pleasantly surprised if you do! :-) Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 24 Jan 1996 anuja@CSTP.UMKC.EDU wrote: > I tried this, but i started getting from the Mail Subsytem when the mail > was successfully delivered and not when it was opened.. is this supposed to > happen? and how do we make it such that we only get a 'RECEIPT' when the > other party "opens" the mail.. ? thanks for any help.. nuj. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 05:11:38 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27131; Mon, 29 Jan 96 05:11:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13283; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:45:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13269; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:45:19 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:12:38 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA08588; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:09:49 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:09:48 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jean Pierre LeJacq Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problems in "Path: " when posting news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I suspect this indicates a problem with your INN software configuration rather than a problem with Pine.... Hostname appearing twice ------------------------ This is covered in the INN FAQ, Part 3. See "How come my host name comes out twice in the path line?" in the "INN is running, but I have this small problem..." section. Not-for-mail ------------ This _might_ be related to the above. It would be worth checking the config.data you used to build INN and make sure that you used: PATHMASTER not-for-mail Otherwise try asking in the "news.software.nntp" newsgroup. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: > I've recently installed inn-1.4sec for my news server and have pine > working with mostly. However, when I post messages, my site-name is > listed twice and my user-id is listed instead of not-for-mail. For > example: > > Path: quoininc.com!quoininc.com!jplejacq > > "inews -h" works correctly and produces: > > Path: quoininc.com!not-for-mail > > My system is: > > pine-3.91 > inn-1.4sec > gcc-2.6.3 > linux-1.2.11 > > Any ideas on how to correct this? TIA > > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin Inc > > Suite 200 North Voice (local): +1.207.858.0338 > 124 Mount Auburn Street Voice: +1.617.576.5885 > Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 Fax: +1.617.576.5876 > U.S.A. Internet: jplejacq@quoininc.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 05:13:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27200; Mon, 29 Jan 96 05:13:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13268; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:45:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13262; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:45:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgssd-00038ZC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 04:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brian Freeze Subject: Re: pine 3.91 and MAC-BINHEX Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 07:39:57 -0400 Message-Id: References: <199601291131.AA25056@world.std.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199601291131.AA25056@world.std.com> Status: O X-Status: Okay thanks The file as far as I know is being sent by a MAC so I will get him to paste the file into his main message so I can read it. That part of the message I can read. Thanks again and I will look into this. Brian C. Freeze freezeb@nbnet.nb.ca freezeb@www.deltastar.nb.ca On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Zachary H Leber wrote: > Mac files are special because they have two parts: data fork and > resource fork. Binhex format puts these into a single file, and > then converts the 8-bit binary file into 7-bit for sending over > old internet. If it is an ASCII file, you should have the sender resend. > I don't know how to unhex a binhex file on UNIX. I always have to send > it to my Mac and run StuffitExpander (freeware) or BinHex there. If you > find out otherwise, please let me know. > > Zach > > In article you wrote: > : I have linux box and pine 3.91 running. I recieved 2 files attached to my > : mail in MAC-binhex format and pine cannot view. I keep getting a message > : that pine cannot view MAC-binhex. > > : Any help would be apreciated. > > : Thanks in advance > > : Brian C. Freeze > : freezeb@nbnet.nb.ca > : freezeb@www.deltastar.nb.ca > : > : > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------ > | Zach Leber | zach@world.std.com (home) | > | RSA | zach@radionics.com (work) | > | 22 Terry Avenue | Tel: 617-238-0600 x1312 | > | Burlington, MA 01803 | Fax: 617-238-0606 | > ------------------------------------------------------ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 06:34:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29252; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:34:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10872; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:15:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10865; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:15:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tguMR-00038ZC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anthonyk@dbis.com.hk (Anthony Kwok) Subject: Send Information to a list of e-mail address Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 08:01:25 GMT Message-Id: <310c7e92.23763970@news.hk.super.net> Status: O X-Status: We have a project to send a large text file (20 pages) to our customers everyday. Since we are using the slow dial up connection, sending these information is time consuming and become too expensive. Although we can send to a list of e-mail address within one message, it will expose all the e-mail address to each customer. Could somebody give us some hint on doing that? Is it possible to transfer the text file to our unix account at ISP first and run some program for background transferring? Please reply to legal@dbis.com.hk if possible! _ /| Rgds, /-|nthony From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 06:54:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29734; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:54:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11244; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:40:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from harbiye.kho.edu.tr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11231; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:40:08 -0800 Received: (from h4829@localhost) by harbiye.kho.edu.tr (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA01567; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:42:55 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:42:54 +0200 (EET) From: Apolet 4829 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: getting help (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Date: mon, 29 jan 1996 18:57:15 +0200 (EET) From: Apolet 4829 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Apolet 4829 Subject: getting help I want you to help me about finding E_mail adres of my elder brother who is getting high education in PHILA/U.S.A I do not know the name of university in which he is educating. I only know his living adres detail. could you help me or not? if your answer is 'yes' send me a massage as soon as possible to give you his name,surname,and living adres. I am sending you a massage from within TURKEY I AM WAITING A MASSAGE FROM YOU. THANKS A LOT. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 07:11:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00304; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:11:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14964; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:57:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from harbiye.kho.edu.tr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14956; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:56:51 -0800 Received: (from h4829@localhost) by harbiye.kho.edu.tr (8.6.12/8.6.9) id QAA01769; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:59:47 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:59:46 +0200 (EET) From: Apolet 4829 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: Apolet 4829 Subject: getting help Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I WANT TO LEARN A E_MAIL ADRES IN PHILA/U.S.A COULD YOU HELP ME OR NOT? IF YOUR ANSWER IS 'YES' PLEASE SEND ME A MESSAGE THANKS A LOT. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 07:19:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00589; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:19:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14984; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:57:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tradeservice.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14976; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:57:33 -0800 Received: from tsstssi.tradeservice.com by tradeservice.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA05818; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:58:15 -0500 Received: from rchadw by tsstssi (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA38246; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:04:54 -0500 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:04:54 -0500 Message-Id: <2.2.16.19960129100112.57178406@tsstssi> X-Sender: rchadw@tsstssi X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (16) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rich Chadwick Subject: Not getting From address Status: O X-Status: I am running Pine 3.91 on and IBM AIX 4.1 system. When an message is received with a long sender name (in excess of 75 characters) Pine does not display the From name. If you look at the mail file in unix or on a PC mail system the complete From name is there. Any help would be appreciated. Rich Chadwick rchadw@tradeservice.com Trade Service Systems From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 07:30:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00791; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:30:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15044; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:00:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15038; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:00:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tguzp-00038ZC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 06:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: pine, os2, i forgot Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 13:19:28 +0000 Message-Id: References: <4ec7j1$5n0@wolfe.wimsey.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <4ec7j1$5n0@wolfe.wimsey.com> Status: O X-Status: On 27 Jan 1996 jamesk@wimsey.com wrote: > i'd also much rather it didn't keep asking me for my login name and > password each time i start it up.. > > jamesk@wimsey.com > > Create PINE.PWD in the same directory as PINE. It will store your password there. (I hope your PC is secure against random people logging on as you though!) ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 07:42:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01101; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:42:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15423; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:21:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15417; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:21:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgvMP-00038ZC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adrianb@hk.super.net (Adrian K Buckman) Subject: Re: Send Information to a list of e-mail address Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:40:11 GMT Message-Id: <4eim8a$41c@tst.hk.super.net> References: <310c7e92.23763970@news.hk.super.net> Status: O X-Status: anthonyk@dbis.com.hk (Anthony Kwok) wrote: >We have a project to send a large text file (20 pages) to our >customers everyday. >Cut Just an idea, how about using a commercial email package as this requirement is supported as a 'normal' feature. We use DaVinci and I know that CC Mail can do the same using Blind Copy. Another idea is to use the mail list feature - so your customers see the mail list name and nothing else. ...regards Since we are using the slow dial up connection, >sending these information is time consuming and become too expensive. >Although we can send to a list of e-mail address within one message, >it will expose all the e-mail address to each customer. Could somebody >give us some hint on doing that? Is it possible to transfer the text >file to our unix account at ISP first and run some program for >background transferring? > >Please reply to legal@dbis.com.hk if possible! > > _ > /| Rgds, >/-|nthony From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 07:44:26 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01173; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:44:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11857; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:21:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11851; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:21:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgvMj-00038TC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: arne lasance Subject: What if I cannot enter ftp site Date: 29 Jan 1996 13:04:10 GMT Message-Id: <4eigka$8a5@dub-news-svc-3.compuserve.com> References: <4e5lh3$slh@maureen.teleport.com> <4e5p7s$j89@fcnews.fc.hp.com> Status: O X-Status: I cannot enter the ftp site mentioned from my machine. Can anybody tell me what to do now? Arjen Meima armee@dds.nl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 07:51:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01384; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:51:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11865; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:21:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11859; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:21:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgvMS-00038aC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tlloyd@hk.super.net (Tim Lloyd) Subject: Re: Send Information to a list of e-mail address Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:53:32 +0800 Message-Id: References: <310c7e92.23763970@news.hk.super.net> Status: O X-Status: In article <310c7e92.23763970@news.hk.super.net>, anthonyk@dbis.com.hk (Anthony Kwok) wrote: >Although we can send to a list of e-mail address within one message, >it will expose all the e-mail address to each customer. Could somebody >give us some hint on doing that? Is it possible to transfer the text >file to our unix account at ISP first and run some program for >background transferring? If you're using something like Eudora you can use the bcc: header instead of the CC: header to hide the names of the other customers..... Tim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 08:16:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02243; Mon, 29 Jan 96 08:16:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12438; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:52:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12432; Mon, 29 Jan 96 07:52:49 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA09836; Mon, 29 Jan 96 10:52:12 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgvun-000FKZC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 10:54 EST Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 10:54:44 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: standard for signatures? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I recently saw an article that briefly mentioned that there is an RFC that specifies signatures in email/news messages. Can anyone point out which RFC mentions this subject and summarize the major points? Thanks, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Jean Pierre LeJacq Quoin Inc Suite 200 North Voice (local): +1.207.858.0338 124 Mount Auburn Street Voice: +1.617.576.5885 Cambridge, MA 02138-5700 Fax: +1.617.576.5876 U.S.A. Internet: jplejacq@quoininc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 09:02:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04284; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:02:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13385; Mon, 29 Jan 96 08:35:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13375; Mon, 29 Jan 96 08:35:24 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA12947; Mon, 29 Jan 96 11:32:09 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgwVD-000FKZC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 11:32 EST Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 11:32:22 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Mike Brudenell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problems in "Path: " when posting news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Thanks for your help and suggestions. I did see the "hostname appearing twice" item in the FAQ and configured INN to handle it. Same for the "not-for-mail". That is why the "inews -h" command seems to work. Since my posting, I've modified the inn.conf file to: server: news.quoininc.com pathhost: news.quoininc.com which produces with pine: Path: news.quoininc.com!quoininc.com!jplejacq NNTP-Posting-Host: quoininc.com and with "inews -h": Path: news.quoininc.com!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Host: quoininc.com I still believe that pine is overriding the inn settings. The path it generates may actually be ok. Any further ideas? > I suspect this indicates a problem with your INN software configuration > rather than a problem with Pine.... > > Hostname appearing twice > ------------------------ > This is covered in the INN FAQ, Part 3. See "How come my host name comes > out twice in the path line?" in the "INN is running, but I have this > > Not-for-mail > ------------ > This _might_ be related to the above. It would be worth checking the > config.data you used to build INN and make sure that you used: > PATHMASTER not-for-mail > > Mike Brudenell > > > I've recently installed inn-1.4sec for my news server and have pine > > working with mostly. However, when I post messages, my site-name is > > listed twice and my user-id is listed instead of not-for-mail. For > > example: > > > > Path: quoininc.com!quoininc.com!jplejacq > > > > "inews -h" works correctly and produces: > > > > Path: quoininc.com!not-for-mail > > > > My system is: > > > > pine-3.91 > > inn-1.4sec > > gcc-2.6.3 > > linux-1.2.11 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 09:32:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06407; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:32:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14511; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:10:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14505; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:10:23 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA15922; Mon, 29 Jan 96 12:09:46 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgx8d-000FKZC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 12:13 EST Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 12:13:02 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Send Information to a list of e-mail address In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Tim Lloyd wrote: > In article <310c7e92.23763970@news.hk.super.net>, > anthonyk@dbis.com.hk (Anthony Kwok) wrote: > > >Although we can send to a list of e-mail address within one message, > >it will expose all the e-mail address to each customer. Could somebody > >give us some hint on doing that? Is it possible to transfer the text > >file to our unix account at ISP first and run some program for > >background transferring? > > > If you're using something like Eudora you can use the bcc: header instead > of the CC: header to hide the names of the other customers..... Pine also supports bcc: headers. From the main menu enter C (Compose) and then ^R (Rich Hdr). If pine is properly configured, you'll see the bcc: header at that point. However, what your customers actually see is dependent on your mail transport agent (e.g. smail, sendmail) and not pine. They may still see the entire list. See help for the bcc: header which you can get by ^G (Help) when the cursor is on the bcc: header. --- Jean Pierre From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 09:47:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07053; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:47:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15072; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:29:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15066; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:29:04 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28673; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:25:08 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:25:07 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Jean Pierre LeJacq Cc: Mike Brudenell , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problems in "Path: " when posting news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Jean Pierre LeJacq wrote: > I still believe that pine is overriding the inn settings. The path it > generates may actually be ok. Any further ideas? Pine posts the message to the NNTP server, and has no access to it thereafter. There is no way Pine can over-ride anything INN does. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 09:49:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07115; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:49:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18348; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:31:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18342; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:31:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgxN1-00038ZC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marcelo@carpa.ciagri.usp.br (Marcelo Zacarias) Subject: pcpine user-id Date: 29 Jan 1996 14:42:47 GMT Message-Id: <4eimd7$63i@bee.uspnet.usp.br> Status: O X-Status: I'd like to use pcpine (as a imap client) in diskless PCs and a problem I am experiencing is that pcpine asks the sender-id in the first time I use "compose" and use this information as the sender. How to configure pcpine to use the "login" name as the sender? Is it possible? Thanx. -- Marcelo Zacarias - USP/CIAGRI | Cx. Postal 9, CEP 13418-900, Piracicaba/SP System & Network Admin. | Fone: 0194-294373 / Bip: 0800-123124 (1022) Divisao de Redes & Hardware | Finger for PGP Public Key /// Running LINUX /* All extremists should be taken out and SHOT!! */ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 09:51:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07331; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:51:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18224; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:28:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18218; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:28:19 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28623; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:21:58 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:21:58 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Sam Liddicott Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Greedy Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Organization: University of Washington; Office of Computing & Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: One data point: Pine (virtual) memory use will be dramatically affected by the mailbox format you choose to use. Pine's mailbox driver for Unix "mbox" format reads the entire mailbox into virtual memory. In contrast, the Tenex driver does not, but there are relatively few mail programs that support Tenex format, so there is a compatibility tradeoff. -teg On Fri, 26 Jan 1996, Sam Liddicott wrote: > We run pine 3.91 on SCO 3.2v4.2 with 16Meg ram and 20meg swap. > Normally the swap is unused (with 24 users). > > Pine causes some swap to be used, and a LOT in some cases. > > We could have 10Meg of available ram/swap and one pine session with a > 2.2meg file (mime) can crash because there is not enough memory, or fail > to fork when sending mail. > > Is pine particularly greedy with demands on Ram? Does SCO implement > forks rather poorly (no page on write?). > > Whats the opinion and how much swap is reccommened. > > > -- > -- > Sam Liddicott | Nothing I say is to be attributed as > Campbell Scientific Ltd. | a company statement or representation. > 14-20 Field Street, Shepshed, *---------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 09:54:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07509; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:54:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15465; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:40:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15459; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:40:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgxVU-00038TC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 09:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgo@netcom.com (Thomas Go) Subject: Where can I get the source code? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:01:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, I am wondering where can I get the source code for Pine to run on a Solaris machine? Thanks, tgo@netcom.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 10:48:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10479; Mon, 29 Jan 96 10:48:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19754; Mon, 29 Jan 96 10:26:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19748; Mon, 29 Jan 96 10:26:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0tgyFr-00038RC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 10:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Avoiding the inbox Date: 29 Jan 1996 09:13:15 -0800 Message-Id: <4eiv7b$4ku@shellx.best.com> References: <4e8819$20k_001@law.emory.edu> <4eaajc$j78@ratatosk.uio.no> Status: O X-Status: mraaum@evo.uio.no (Margrete Raaum) writes: >Pine cannot do it, but you can use a mailfilter for this >(eg procmail). (I use a .mailfilter as we run PP) For lots of info about setting up filtering, check out my Filtering Mail FAQ at: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ Good luck, Nancy PS - I'd appreciate your feedback on this page, which is an example of a "FAQ Launcher." Does it make sense? Is it useful? What other info would you like to see in it? Any suggestions for improving the layout, etc.? -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 12:38:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16206; Mon, 29 Jan 96 12:38:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20172; Mon, 29 Jan 96 12:26:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20166; Mon, 29 Jan 96 12:26:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0th07x-00038RC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 12:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca (Alan Kelm) Subject: headers - How to view? Date: 20 Jan 1996 21:39:10 GMT Message-Id: <4drndu$i8o@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: I would like to be able to view the full headers of messages which I receive. According to the help message that comes up when I press "?" while reading a message, the "H" command should enable "Full Header Mode". However, when I give the "H" command, I get the message Command "H" not defined for this screen. This happens in both Pine 3.91 and Pine 3.89. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance, -Alan -- : Alan Kelm kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca : : Department of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Ottawa, Canada. : From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 13:53:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20382; Mon, 29 Jan 96 13:53:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24956; Mon, 29 Jan 96 13:31:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24950; Mon, 29 Jan 96 13:31:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0th183-00038RC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 13:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Signatures in Pine Date: 29 Jan 1996 09:31:08 -0800 Message-Id: <4ej08s$f7f@shellx.best.com> References: <4e0bom$pai@senior.nectec.or.th> Status: O X-Status: apattser@mozart.inet.co.th (Apatt) writes: >Could somebody please tell me how to put signatures at the end of >Pine messages? For lots and lots of info about sigs in Pine, and more, see: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/signature_finger_faq/ Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 15:28:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24496; Mon, 29 Jan 96 15:28:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24849; Mon, 29 Jan 96 15:17:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24843; Mon, 29 Jan 96 15:17:43 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23242; Mon, 29 Jan 96 15:14:40 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 15:14:35 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: company account Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: mx4.u.washington.edu ??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Have you sent mail to anyone at u.washington.edu? mx4 is one of the mail exchangers for that domain, so much of the mail to UW users will get routed through it... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, company account wrote: > Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > From: company account > Subject: mx4.u.washington.edu ??? > Message-ID: > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 1996 10:43:09 GMT > > I've noticed that my Linux box from time to time is attempting to > send mail to mx4.u.washington.edu. The pine executable does not > refer (as far as I can tell) to that host. There are no > pending messages to be sent out in my mail queue... Anyone > know if this is normal? > > I decided to trap mail being sent to the address by re-routing > stuff for the mx4 address to my local IP - the problem hasn't > surfaced again yet... > > -McDaniel > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 16:06:04 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26650; Mon, 29 Jan 96 16:06:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25730; Mon, 29 Jan 96 15:56:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25724; Mon, 29 Jan 96 15:56:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0th3Mu-00038RC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 15:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca (Alan Kelm) Subject: Re: headers - How to view? Date: 20 Jan 1996 21:49:07 GMT Message-Id: <4dro0j$i8o@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> References: <4drndu$i8o@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Alan Kelm (kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca) wrote: : However, when I give the "H" command, I get the message : Command "H" not defined for this screen. I found the solution. In the setup configuration I have to set the flag called "enable-full-header-cmd". After doing so, the H command works. -ak -- : Alan Kelm kelm@aix1.uottawa.ca : : Department of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Ottawa, Canada. : From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 17:24:28 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00993; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:24:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27899; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:18:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rho.ben2.ucla.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27893; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:18:16 -0800 Received: from ts24-6.wla.ts.ucla.edu (ts24-6.wla.ts.ucla.edu [164.67.20.211]) by rho.ben2.ucla.edu (8.6.11/8.6.11) with SMTP id QAA29752 for ; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:54:56 -0800 Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:54:56 -0800 Message-Id: <199601300054.QAA29752@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> X-Sender: jgraham@pop.ben2.ucla.edu (Unverified) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgraham@ucla.edu (Julie Graham) Subject: Pine Review X-Mailer: Status: O X-Status: I am interested in finding written reviews about Pine, how it works, and how it is generally accepted by its users. I would also like to find a good source of user feedback. I have checked the Web site, but it does not seem to have exactly what I am interested in. If anyone could provide some feedback to me I would appreciate it. Thankyou, Julie Graham From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 17:28:33 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01123; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:28:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28050; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:22:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28044; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:22:47 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:49:02 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA09789; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:17:22 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:17:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "D.Davenport" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: WHY do I get the TO: here? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine is trying to be helpful here... Messages you receive FROM others have the "From:" address displayed in the index. Messages you send OUT to others but keep a copy for yourself somehow (Fcc'ing to a folder, Cc'ing yourself a copy, etc) show who th emessage was sent TO. This is more useful than simply listing your own address in the index as its acts as an aide memoire who the message was sent out to. This is VERY useful is folders where you keep copies of outgoing messages, such as the sent-mail folder. You can DEDUCE the message is from you because the "To:" field is shown. Only your own outgoing messages are listed in this way. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 27 Jan 1996, D.Davenport wrote: > > Whenever I send mail lately I get the TO:(addressee) posted in > the FROM area. > Can anyone hazard a guess as to what I have tweaked that I > shouldn't have? > > Thanks for any help!! > > ****************************************************************************** > D.Davenport Prairie Winds Books > 267 Whitehorn Road N.E. 403-280-0654 > Calgary, Alberta EMAIL TO: > Canada T1Y 2A5 pwbooks@freenet.calgary.ab.ca > ****************************************************************************** > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 17:30:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01242; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:30:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00813; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:22:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00801; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:22:34 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:48:41 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA12408; Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:35:22 GMT Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 09:35:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: jamesk@wimsey.com Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine, os2, i forgot In-Reply-To: <4ec7j1$5n0@wolfe.wimsey.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You don't say in your message what platform (UNIX, DOS, Windows or VMS) you are using. If it is UNIX then the initial username/password prompt can be avoided by: 1. Set up a (symbolic) link from /etc/rimapd to point to your imapd executable. 2. Set yourself up a .rhosts file so that the computer on which the IMAP server runs "trusts" the host you run Pine on and allows you to rsh from it. 3. Check you have set both of the above up properly by giving the following command on your normal (Pine) computer: rsh nameofyourimapcomputer /etc/rimapd If all is well you will get a welcome banner. Respond by typing: A001 logout Having done this your Pine session should then start without prompting you to enter username and password. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 27 Jan 1996 jamesk@wimsey.com wrote: > i'd also much rather it didn't keep asking me for my login name and > password each time i start it up.. > > jamesk@wimsey.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 17:31:48 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01299; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:31:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00780; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:21:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00773; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:21:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0th4is-00038RC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 17:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: luttrell@netcom.com (Jordan D. Luttrell) Subject: Crashed INBOX Message-Id: Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:40:23 GMT Status: O X-Status: I logged into PINE today, to find my INBOX had disappeared, i.e., there were no messages in it, even though the day before, there were. Is there any way to recover a crash like this? Do people back up their INBOXes, or is it in the hands of the Gods? Many thanks, Joe Luttrell From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 18:20:44 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02825; Mon, 29 Jan 96 18:20:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01599; Mon, 29 Jan 96 18:11:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01593; Mon, 29 Jan 96 18:11:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0th5Vu-00038RC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 18:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hacker@bellcore.com (Jon Hacker) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 uploaded to hobbes Message-Id: References: <4dj24d$iv1@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:53:03 GMT Status: O X-Status: >> I installed PINE for OS/2 on my Warp/connect machine. BUT ... it sucks up all >> available cycles, even when doing no more that waiting for keyboard input. >> This is indicated both by very balky behavior (i.e. bringing another window to >> the foreground may take 30 seconds to a minute), and buy the Pulse cpu >> monitor that comes with Warp. >> You need the later pine391a.zip version that fixes the CPU hogging. Jon Hacker From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jan 29 18:21:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02863; Mon, 29 Jan 96 18:21:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28748; Mon, 29 Jan 96 18:01:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28742; Mon, 29 Jan 96 18:01:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0th5NY-00038RC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 18:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Is there a pine, Eudora, POP or general mail mailing list? Date: 29 Jan 1996 08:31:20 -0800 Message-Id: <4eisoo$dh3@shellx.best.com> References: Status: O X-Status: felix@emf.net (Nameless) writes: >If anyof you know of a pine-oriented or Eudora-oriented or >POP-server-oriented mailing list, or even a mailing list which is simply >similar in content to this newsgroup, could you please tell me the adress >where I send mail to subscribe to it, and what it is called? Are you interested in news groups? If so, try these for Eudora: comp.mail.eudora.mac - Eudora email software for Macintosh. comp.mail.eudora.ms-windows - Eudora email software for MS Windows. I'm not sure where you can discuss POP, maybe in one of the comp.mail.* or comp.protocols.* groups. Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 01:06:18 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13859; Tue, 30 Jan 96 01:06:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08609; Tue, 30 Jan 96 00:52:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08603; Tue, 30 Jan 96 00:52:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thBlC-00038TC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 00:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: Send Information to a list of e-mail address Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 23:10:10 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <310c7e92.23763970@news.hk.super.net> Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Anthony Kwok wrote: > We have a project to send a large text file (20 pages) to our > customers everyday. Since we are using the slow dial up connection, > sending these information is time consuming and become too expensive. > Although we can send to a list of e-mail address within one message, > it will expose all the e-mail address to each customer. Could somebody > give us some hint on doing that? Is it possible to transfer the text > file to our unix account at ISP first and run some program for > background transferring? > > Please reply to legal@dbis.com.hk if possible! Simply put all of the addresses in the Bcc: line and send yourself a copy in the To: line. Some mail routers will display the Bcc: addresses if there is no address in the To: or Cc: lines. You may wish to send out a test mailing to verify that there is no problem. The Bcc: line can be revealed by moving the cursor up above the "----- Message Text -----" line and hitting ctrl-R when you are writing the mail in pine. Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 01:22:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14251; Tue, 30 Jan 96 01:22:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08790; Tue, 30 Jan 96 00:59:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08776; Tue, 30 Jan 96 00:59:02 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:57:21 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id IAA05688; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:56:34 GMT Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 08:56:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Thomas Go Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Where can I get the source code? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You can get the source code from the main Pine site by anonymous ftp: ftp.cac.washington.edu Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Thomas Go wrote: > Hi, > > I am wondering where can I get the source code for Pine to run on a > Solaris machine? > > Thanks, > tgo@netcom.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 01:45:43 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15061; Tue, 30 Jan 96 01:45:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09382; Tue, 30 Jan 96 01:19:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09364; Tue, 30 Jan 96 01:18:50 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:13:45 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id JAA08245; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:12:40 GMT Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:12:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Jordan D. Luttrell" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Crashed INBOX In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This may well NOT be the solution to your problem, but is (hopefully) useful to someone... We run a collection of SGI machines running IRIX. Mail is stored on a disk locally attached to our mail server, which runs IMAP daemons to access it. We use Pine (from UNIX) and ECSmail (from PCs) to access said mail over IMAP. As a concession to the few die-hards and also to let shell mail checking work we also NFS mount the mailstore on each of the other IRIX systems. Occasionally some bright spark(!) "discovers" that their mail is delivered slightly quicker if they send it to "username@name-of-current-machine" rather than "username@york.ac.uk" (the latter going to our mail hub). The result is that their mail is NOT passed to the mail hub, but the local machine they are using instead delivers the message into the recipients' mail folder (writing to the mailstore over the NFS link). UNFORTUNATELY there is a bug in IRIX involving NFS mounted mailstores (possibly also more general ... I don't know). The upshot is that the recipient's mailbox becomes inaccessible on the machine which delivered the message into it over NFS. This is apparently to do with problems with file locking over NFS and assorted other gubbins. The upshot as I say is that the recipients' mailbox can no longer be read from on the machine which delivered the message into the box over NFS. In particular if someone tries to use a non-IMAP mail program (Elm, Pine not configured to use IMAP, etc) then they get either an error message or (as is the case with Pine) an empty INBOX presented to them. However IMAP can be used successfully to access the folder (the IMAP server is running on the mail server and accessing the disk locally, so NFS is not involved). The only ways we have found out of the above situation when it occurs is: * Wait for some sort of timer to expire, or * Reboot the machine, or * Login to another machine as root, copy the mail folder to a new file, and mv this back over the old one (changing its i-node and restoring access). Our verdict: * Use IMAP for mail access. It *is* good! * Be wary about NFS mounting your mailstore. * If you must NFS mount it (eg, so that sh can stat it and check for new mail arriving) consider exporting/mounting it read-only. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Jordan D. Luttrell wrote: > > I logged into PINE today, to find my INBOX had disappeared, i.e., there > were no messages in it, even though the day before, there were. > > Is there any way to recover a crash like this? > > Do people back up their INBOXes, or is it in the hands of the Gods? > > Many thanks, > > Joe Luttrell > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 01:48:22 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15178; Tue, 30 Jan 96 01:48:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12803; Tue, 30 Jan 96 01:42:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA12790; Tue, 30 Jan 96 01:42:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thCZC-00038WC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 01:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pegboy@gti.gti.net (hayes? who? what?) Subject: Re: "Receipt" function of Pine? Date: 29 Jan 1996 13:52:50 -0500 Message-Id: <4ej522$sf4@gti.gti.net> References: <4dul7c$cc@www.gnofn.org> Status: O X-Status: Where is this receipt feature? I can't seem to locate it in 3.91....?? 27 Jan 1996 12:14:54 -0800 wrote: : Hi Brian : The receipt feature is available in Pine but it only tells you that the : Internet Provider received the mail, not that the person you sent it to : has read it. I tried it for awhile but decided it was a waste of time. : You will know if they didn't receive it because the Post Office takes : care of that. : If, however, you still want it, it is in the Config. menu of Setup. : Marsha : *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* : Marsha C. Holmes |\ __ /.| (`\ : ac573@ccn.cs.dal.ca _ .| o o |_ ) ) : ----------------------(((---(((------------- : Homepage: http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ac573/Profile.html : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - : Member of HTML Writers Guild - http://www.synet.net/hwg : *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* : On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Brian J Barbazon wrote: : > Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 20:19:56 -0400 : > From: Brian J Barbazon : > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu : > Subject: "Receipt" function of Pine? : > : > Some time ago I read that the Pine e-mail system has a "receipt" function : > by which a system-generated message is automatically sent back to the : > sender when the e-mail in question is "opened". If this function is : > available, how would I find or use it? Any help would be most appreciated : > as I am a novice user of the Pine system. : > : > Thank you, : > Brian J. Barbazon (bjb01@gnofn.org) : > : > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 03:39:29 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17997; Tue, 30 Jan 96 03:39:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15939; Tue, 30 Jan 96 03:28:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15933; Tue, 30 Jan 96 03:28:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thEBZ-00038RC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 03:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mas@ns1.autonet.net (Mike S) Subject: Pine3.91 & Sendmail 8.7.3 userdb Date: 29 Jan 1996 16:05:35 -0500 Message-Id: <4ejcqv$jn4@ns1.autonet.net> Status: O X-Status: I have recently upgraded to Sendmail 8.7.3 and I'm using the userdb function to replace mailname@domain to First_Lastname@domain for outgoing and incoming mail. Mailx uses this feature without any problems, but Pine continues to use the mailname for outgoing mail. I have tried various changes to .pinerc to no avail, such as not setting any user or domain information and quelling mailname lookup in the passwd file. Could someone let me know if this is do-able with Pine 3.91. or if there is a newer release that supports this. Thanks, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 03:39:56 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18036; Tue, 30 Jan 96 03:39:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13304; Tue, 30 Jan 96 03:28:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13298; Tue, 30 Jan 96 03:27:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thEBa-00038TC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 03:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Wendy Van Camp Subject: Re: Signatures in Pine Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 14:19:05 -0800 Message-Id: References: <4e0bom$pai@senior.nectec.or.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 22 Jan 1996, pseudo account f|r mailing lists wrote: > > > Create a .signature file in your home directory or enter a filename > to the signature-file option in the setup screen. > > Norbert If I may ask an obviously ignorant question....how do you create a .signature file in your home directory? I am very new to the UNIX environment and don't have the faintest idea how to do this. > > > > Could somebody please tell me how to put signatures at the end of > > Pine messages? By reading the help menu in pine, you will find instructions that tell you to goto setup/config/ and then put in the name of the file...and then continue down and x the "add sig at end of posts" place. Sorry for the hazy wordings. :) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 04:37:13 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA19939; Tue, 30 Jan 96 04:37:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15385; Tue, 30 Jan 96 04:28:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA15373; Tue, 30 Jan 96 04:28:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thF7a-00038RC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 04:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sam@csluk.demon.co.uk (Sam Liddicott) Subject: Re: Greedy Pine? Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:55:02 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Sam Liddicott wrote: >We run pine 3.91 on SCO 3.2v4.2 with 16Meg ram and 20meg swap. >Normally the swap is unused (with 24 users). > >Pine causes some swap to be used, and a LOT in some cases. To follow up on myself; Terry Gray tells me that pine's unix mbox driver loads the whole mailbox into ram. Oh woe! Oh well, at least I know. No wonder its slow compared to elm. -- -- Sam Liddicott | Nothing I say is to be attributed as Campbell Scientific Ltd. | a company statement or representation. 14-20 Field Street, Shepshed, *---------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 04:44:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20103; Tue, 30 Jan 96 04:44:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18079; Tue, 30 Jan 96 04:33:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18073; Tue, 30 Jan 96 04:33:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thFAU-00038RC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 04:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adreyer@uni-paderborn.de (Achim Dreyer) Subject: Re: sendmail 8.7.3 reverse aliasing & pine Date: 30 Jan 1996 11:09:29 GMT Message-Id: <4eku99$sjd@news.uni-paderborn.de> References: <4ejrea$gaa@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Status: O X-Status: Andreas Muck (uj5r@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de) wrote: : Hi : I installed sendmail 8.7.3 because I needed the reverse aliasing feature. : I need rewriting from "andi@koala.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de" to something else. It : works fine with elm, and mailx but not with pine! I think it's because pine : puts a qualified From line itself when sending the mail. Does anybody know : how to fix this? : Thanks : Andi : PS. Here is my userdb: : andi:mailname Andreas.Muck@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de : I tried also with the full address instead of "andi" but it didn't work Do the following in pine : m (goto Main menu) s (setup) c (config) -> go to personal-name and enter "Andreas.Muck" -> go to user-domain and enter "stud.uni-karlsruhe.de" e (exit setup) Ciao, Achim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 06:02:27 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21802; Tue, 30 Jan 96 06:02:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17493; Tue, 30 Jan 96 05:48:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17487; Tue, 30 Jan 96 05:48:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thGM2-00038UC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 05:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wbow@crl.com (Will Bow) Subject: Pine 391 Help Please! Date: 30 Jan 1996 03:21:20 -0800 Message-Id: <4ekuvg$cig@crl10.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: How do I get pine to properly parse mail files downloaded by a POP mail client. It seems to work ok with the mailbox file if I maually download it from my shell account. Please reply by email Thanks Will Bow From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 06:08:24 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21966; Tue, 30 Jan 96 06:08:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17483; Tue, 30 Jan 96 05:48:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17476; Tue, 30 Jan 96 05:48:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thGLj-00038RC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 05:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wbow@crl.com (Will Bow) Subject: Pine 391 Help .. Pretty Please Date: 30 Jan 1996 03:31:17 -0800 Message-Id: <4ekvi5$pnh@crl12.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: How do I get pine to work with mail that I downloaded with a POP3 client? (It seems to think that it is 1 message) It seems to work ok with the same (except for the first line which is "From wbow@crl.com .....") file if I download it manually from my shell acct. Please reply by e-mail Thanks Much Will Bow From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 06:10:20 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22010; Tue, 30 Jan 96 06:10:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20147; Tue, 30 Jan 96 05:48:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20141; Tue, 30 Jan 96 05:48:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thGLl-00038TC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 05:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wbow@crl.com (Will Bow) Subject: Pine 391 Help ... Pretty Please Date: 30 Jan 1996 03:37:44 -0800 Message-Id: <4ekvu8$ojg@crl11.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: How do I get pine to work with mail that I downloaded with a POP3 client? Pine seems to think that the input is ONE continuous message. The same (well, almost ..) file if I download it manually from my shell account. Please respond by email Thanks Will Bow From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 06:22:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA22268; Tue, 30 Jan 96 06:22:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17984; Tue, 30 Jan 96 06:13:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [206.203.63.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA17978; Tue, 30 Jan 96 06:13:45 -0800 Received: from 3rd9.3rddoor.com ([206.203.63.209]) by 3rddoor.3rddoor.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA08997 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:15:47 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 09:14:35 -0800 (PST) From: Chuck Libbey To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Composing off-line X-Sender: libbeyc@3rddoor.3rddoor.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to compose and address several letters off-line and have them sent automatically when logged on? Chuck Libbey From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 09:10:57 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00824; Tue, 30 Jan 96 09:10:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24845; Tue, 30 Jan 96 08:56:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from maze.vsc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24839; Tue, 30 Jan 96 08:56:09 -0800 Received: by maze.vsc.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/27Sep94-0126PM) id AA28936; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:56:11 -0500 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 11:56:11 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael H. Martel" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Winsock PC-Pine and SENDMAIL with SETGID. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello! I recently received a complaint about two users getting the same piece of mail. Normally this would be normal, except that the sender swears that the message was sent to only one of them. Ok fine. I verified that there are no aliases and no .forward files that would account for this behavior. Then I remembered that sendmail on this machine (AIX 3.2.5) is configured for SETGID. I then further remembered that this is a shared lab, where PC-Pine (Windoze/Winsock version) resides on the local workstation and prompts users for their username and password. It occured to me that it is possible that PC-Pine (3.91) is not correctly deciding what spool file to use when it connects. User 1 connects to the mailhost and retrieves mail. They then quit PC-Pine and User 2 fires it up. User 2 connects to the mailhost, authenticated as User 2, but is able to access User 1's mailbox because of SENDMAIL being SETGID. I'm still waiting for the actual mail messages with full headers to verify this problem, as I cannot re-produce it on demand. Is there any way that PC-Pine could be acting as I've described ? (Maybe without exiting it before the next person goes into it ?) On a related subject, should SENDMAIL be run with or without the SETGID option ? Is it safer and more secure or is it more of a problem ? Thanks! Michael ---------------------------------------------------------------- Michael H. Martel | Vermont State Colleges michael@maze.vsc.edu | Technical Support Specialist http://www.vsc.edu/~michael | PH:802-241-2535 FX:802-241-3363 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 11:24:06 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09722; Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:24:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27967; Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:05:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27950; Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:05:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thLJt-00038WC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krs2@mango.human.cornell.edu (Ken Simler) Subject: Re: Convert Pine addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 96 14:51:46 GMT Message-Id: <4dob62$las_002@human.cornell.edu> References: <199601171912.UAA16287@johanna4.hsr.no> Status: O X-Status: First, thank you Joseph for contributing the script. After seeing a recent post about it in this group from me, Bruce Pleat of Qualcomm contacted me and asked for a pointer to the script. So keep your eyes open. Indeed, going from Eudora Nickname --> Pine address book is a much tougher problem. Joseph Davidson mentioned that: >Eudora does not require these [first and last name] and >if they are there, are there as part of >the address, such as "Joseph Davidson " >(quotes not included.) The name does not have to be in any >special format. The last sentence here is the key -- there is no special format, not even a regular or predictable format. For example, my nndbase.txt doesn't look at all like your example. Here's a few lines [names changed to protect the innocent]: alias ZimbabweNet Zimbabwe@mathcs.cmu.edu note ZimbabweNet [this line contains all kinds of things about ZimNet, including unreadable ASCII chars for carriage returns I typed in the Eudora Note: window] alias CFNPP [addresses of several co-workers] alias "Joe Blow" jblow@econ.cit.cornell.edu So first the script would have to clean things up by trashing all lines beginning with "note", and getting rid of the "alias " at the beginning of all the other lines. Parsing the Nicknames themselves, however, is tougher, because if there is a space in the nickname, it is enclosed in quotes, but if there's no space, no quotes. As for sorting on last name a la Pine........aargh! And then if it hit a nndbase.txt file with names in the format you showed... Mind reading is indeed required. Maybe future versions of Eudora could make it easier to do this. Delimiting the nndbase.txt fields with tabs, instead of spaces, seems like a simple (perhaps simple-minded?) start. I would also like it to be as easy to convert my mailboxes from Eudora --> Unix (Pine or just plain "mail") as it is to convert Pine --> Eudora. Ken Simler In article , Joseph Davidson wrote: > >This is a tougher problem. Pine requires a first and last name, and uses >them both in the addresses and to sort the file (on the last name). > >Eudora does not require these and if they are there, are there as part of >the address, such as "Joseph Davidson " (quotes >not included.) The name does not have to be in any special format. > >This means for me to convert back, I would have to do some educated >guessing -- actually mind reading -- on what the name of the recipient is. > >Any ideas would be appreciated. > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >Joseph Davidson Ph.D. >InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting >Computer and Network Consulting, Win 95 and Mac >1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 >voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 >jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com >---------------------------------------------------------------------- >On Wed, 17 Jan 1996, Svein Skjaeveland wrote: > >> In article you wrote: >> >> : I have written a Perl script which will convert your Pine ".addressbook" file >> : into an Eudora Nickname file. In less technical terms it converts your Pine >> : addressbook to a Eudora addressbook. >> >> : You can find it at http://www.interguru.com/pineudo.html >> >> : If you have problems with the script, or the instructions, feel free to >> : contact me at jdavidson@interguru.com >> >> >> Do you have a script converting from Eudora to Pine? >> >> Svein M. Skjaeveland >> >> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 11:48:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11179; Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:48:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28789; Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:33:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28783; Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:32:57 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA19318; Tue, 30 Jan 96 14:32:14 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0th6rg-000FFDC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 22:36 EST Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:36:16 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: Julie Graham Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Review In-Reply-To: <199601300054.QAA29752@rho.ben2.ucla.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Julie Graham wrote: > I am interested in finding written reviews about Pine, how it works, and how > it is generally accepted by its users. I would also like to find a good > source of user feedback. I have checked the Web site, but it does not seem Nancy McGough maintains a Web site that might help: http://www.best.com//~ii/internet/mail+news.html --- Jean Pierre From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 12:32:41 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13663; Tue, 30 Jan 96 12:32:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01576; Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:32:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jumbo.ntplx.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01567; Tue, 30 Jan 96 11:32:56 -0800 Received: by ntplx.net (4.1/NETPLEX-2.3.0) id AA19313; Tue, 30 Jan 96 14:32:13 EST Received: by quoin1.quoininc.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0th6kq-000FFDC; Mon, 29 Jan 96 22:29 EST Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 22:29:12 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Pierre LeJacq To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Problems in "Path: " when posting news In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > I still believe that pine is overriding the inn settings. The path it > > generates may actually be ok. Any further ideas? > > Pine posts the message to the NNTP server, and has no access to it > thereafter. There is no way Pine can over-ride anything INN does. But it seems that pine sets the Path: header before passing the message to INN. INN then adds to this header. It doesn't seem appropriate for an MUA to do this. Can this behavior be disabled? Thanks for the help, Jean Pierre From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 18:25:05 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04379; Tue, 30 Jan 96 18:25:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20127; Tue, 30 Jan 96 18:16:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA20121; Tue, 30 Jan 96 18:16:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thS2S-00038RC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 18:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jlindhol@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Jonell Lindholm) Subject: Re: Pine: blocking text Message-Id: Date: Sun, 21 Jan 1996 00:31:59 GMT References: <4djis0$1jdq@news.doit.wisc.edu> Status: O X-Status: >>One more question: Would you tell me how to select the text to cut and paste in PINE? CTRL+K cut only the line, and I would like to know how to select more than one line (or part of the line).<< Try CTRL^ for marking the start and end of a block. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 19:28:52 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08094; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:28:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23651; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:21:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23645; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:21:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thT5M-00038UC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrew J Pardoe Subject: Printing in OS/2 Pine Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 16:34:07 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I just installed PC-Pine's OS/2 port and am not sure how to set up the printer. I just have a simple Epson on LPT1, nothing fancy. Anyone know how to get PC Pine to print under OS/2? Thanks, AP From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 19:44:47 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08579; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:44:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21555; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:21:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21548; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:21:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thT5M-00038TC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: uj5r@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Andreas Muck) Subject: sendmail 8.7.3 reverse aliasing & pine Date: 30 Jan 1996 01:14:50 GMT Message-Id: <4ejrea$gaa@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Hi I installed sendmail 8.7.3 because I needed the reverse aliasing feature. I need rewriting from "andi@koala.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de" to something else. It works fine with elm, and mailx but not with pine! I think it's because pine puts a qualified From line itself when sending the mail. Does anybody know how to fix this? Thanks Andi PS. Here is my userdb: andi:mailname Andreas.Muck@stud.uni-karlsruhe.de I tried also with the full address instead of "andi" but it didn't work From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 19:47:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08772; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:47:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21570; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:21:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA21564; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:21:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thT5N-00038VC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: mx4.u.washington.edu ??? Date: Mon, 29 Jan 1996 17:40:17 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 28 Jan 1996, company account wrote: > I've noticed that my Linux box from time to time is attempting to > send mail to mx4.u.washington.edu. The pine executable does not > refer (as far as I can tell) to that host. There are no > pending messages to be sent out in my mail queue... Anyone > know if this is normal? > > I decided to trap mail being sent to the address by re-routing > stuff for the mx4 address to my local IP - the problem hasn't > surfaced again yet... Mail to anybody at "u.washington.edu" will go to mx4, among others, since mx4 is one of the incoming mail servers for u.washington.edu. -- Mark -- DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 21:40:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11033; Tue, 30 Jan 96 21:40:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27324; Tue, 30 Jan 96 21:19:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stu.ust.hk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27318; Tue, 30 Jan 96 21:19:33 -0800 Received: from ustsu5.ust.hk by stu.ust.hk id <15412-3>; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:18:03 +0800 From: Li Joy Man Michael To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <96Jan31.131803hkt.15412-3+241@stu.ust.hk> Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:17:56 +0800 Status: O X-Status: help From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jan 30 21:51:07 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11241; Tue, 30 Jan 96 21:51:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29956; Tue, 30 Jan 96 21:29:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29947; Tue, 30 Jan 96 21:29:22 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id WAA05146 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:29:18 -0700 Received: from gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.10]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id WAA40440 for ; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:29:20 -0700 Received: by gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id WAA41200; Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:29:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 22:29:18 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu1.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Pine: blocking text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 21 Jan 1996, Jonell Lindholm wrote: > >>One more question: Would you tell me how to select the text to cut > and paste in PINE? CTRL+K cut only the line, and I would like to know > how to select more than one line (or part of the line).<< Move the cursor to the first character of the first line you want to cut. Hold CTRL and SHIFT down, and press the 6 key. You'll see a note [Mark Set] appear centred at the bottom of the page. Use your down arrow key to highlight the lines you want to cut. If you want to cut more than just a few lines, use CTRL-V to page forward. When all the text you want to cut is highlighted, use CTRL-K to cut it. If you wish to paste the text elsewhere in your document, move the cursor to the first character of the line where you wish to insert the text. Use CTRL-U to uncut the text. Hint: If you set the mark at the wrong place, doing CTRL-SHIFT-6 again will produce the message [Mark UnSet] Lea From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 01:25:39 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA16162; Wed, 31 Jan 96 01:25:39 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10460; Wed, 31 Jan 96 01:05:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccn.cs.dal.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA10454; Wed, 31 Jan 96 01:05:10 -0800 Received: by ccn.cs.dal.ca id <11768(1)>; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 05:07:38 -0400 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 05:07:36 -0400 From: "Marsha C. Holmes" To: Jonell Lindholm Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine: blocking text In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi Jonell To mark text for deletion you press Ctrl Shift ^ Marsha *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Marsha C. Holmes |\ __ /.| (`\ ac573@ccn.cs.dal.ca _ .| o o |_ ) ) ----------------------(((---(((------------- Homepage: http://www.ccn.cs.dal.ca/~ac573/Profile.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Member of HTML Writers Guild - http://www.synet.net/hwg *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* On Sat, 20 Jan 1996, Jonell Lindholm wrote: > Date: Sat, 20 Jan 1996 20:31:59 -0400 > From: Jonell Lindholm > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Pine: blocking text > > >>One more question: Would you tell me how to select the text to cut > and paste in PINE? CTRL+K cut only the line, and I would like to know > how to select more than one line (or part of the line).<< > > Try CTRL^ for marking the start and end of a block. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 05:01:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23112; Wed, 31 Jan 96 05:01:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18731; Wed, 31 Jan 96 04:38:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cadul.cadul.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA18713; Wed, 31 Jan 96 04:38:23 -0800 Received: (from mlists@localhost) by cadul.cadul.de (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA21217; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:08:14 GMT Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 13:08:13 +0000 (GMT) From: mailing lists To: Pine List Subject: mime encoding Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello, we have problems with the mime base64 encoding. Nearly all of our customers use uudecode/uuencode an cannot decode the base64 format. Is it possible to switch pine to uudecode/uuencode (mailcaps ??). If not can someone tell me a Internet resource where I can get base64 decoder for the different systems ( MS-DOS, Linux, Solaris, ... ) Thanks in advance, Norbert ============================================================================== Phone: +49 731 937600 CAD-UL GmbH Fax: +49 731 9376027 Einstein Str. 37 BBS: +49 731 9376029 89077 Ulm Email: support@cadul.de Germany sales@cadul.de WWW: http://www.cadul.de ============================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 06:36:01 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25284; Wed, 31 Jan 96 06:36:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25962; Wed, 31 Jan 96 06:20:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25956; Wed, 31 Jan 96 06:20:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thT6s-00038WC; Tue, 30 Jan 96 19:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: spectrum@access5.digex.net (Spectrum Office Systems) Subject: Re: Send Information to a list of e-mail address Date: 30 Jan 1996 15:08:53 GMT Message-Id: <4elca5$2eq@news4.digex.net> References: <310c7e92.23763970@news.hk.super.net> Status: O X-Status: How about a Z-Script program? Then you wouldn't need to mess with converting the message to your UNIX system at all. The Z-Script cookbook and reference manual (available at ftp.ncd.com in electronic form) describes the scripting language pretty well. Perhaps you could do something like this: 1) send the message to yourself. 2) run your script on it. the script might be something like this: for recip in fred@bedrock bill@whitehouse queen@palace mail -f msg_num $recip I'm fairly sure this is not the right syntax, but the idea should be pretty solid. Good Luck, Tom McHugh Spectrum Office Systems, Inc. Z-Mail resellers Anthony Kwok (anthonyk@dbis.com.hk) wrote: : We have a project to send a large text file (20 pages) to our : customers everyday. Since we are using the slow dial up connection, : sending these information is time consuming and become too expensive. : Although we can send to a list of e-mail address within one message, : it will expose all the e-mail address to each customer. Could somebody : give us some hint on doing that? Is it possible to transfer the text : file to our unix account at ISP first and run some program for : background transferring? : : Please reply to legal@dbis.com.hk if possible! : : _ : /| Rgds, : /-|nthony From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 06:47:02 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25560; Wed, 31 Jan 96 06:47:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25672; Wed, 31 Jan 96 06:14:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Farstar.secapl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25662; Wed, 31 Jan 96 06:14:03 -0800 Received: from Cookie.secapl.com (Cookie.secapl.com [192.108.247.19]) by Farstar.secapl.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id IAA148938 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 08:14:28 -0600 Received: by Cookie.secapl.com id AA232410 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for Pine List ); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 08:15:40 -0600 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 08:15:40 -0600 (CST) From: Carla Golden To: Pine List Subject: HELP Deleted all my messages.... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: by accident...is there anyway I can get them back?????? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 06:47:30 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA25603; Wed, 31 Jan 96 06:47:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24387; Wed, 31 Jan 96 06:35:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24379; Wed, 31 Jan 96 06:35:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thdZq-00038UC; Wed, 31 Jan 96 06:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Richard Pavlicek Subject: Annoying ^X usage in pine/pico Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 21:27:51 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Am I the only one that finds this annoying? In compose mode in pine, ^X means "send message," yet when using pine's pico editor alone, ^X means "exit." On several occasions I have sent an undesired message when I forgot which commands were in effect. This strikes me as an oversight, and perhaps in future versions it can be corrected. In general I like pine, but the command to send a message should be unique. Richard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 08:09:32 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27726; Wed, 31 Jan 96 08:09:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27779; Wed, 31 Jan 96 07:48:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.sni.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27755; Wed, 31 Jan 96 07:48:02 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id QAA04246 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 16:47:32 +0100 Received: (from bor@localhost) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.7.3/8.7.3) id SAA03517; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:47:16 +0300 (OET) Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:47:13 +0300 (OET) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsmx1 Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list Subject: Supressing automatic save of sent message Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, list! The question: I have set Pine 3.91 to save sent messages by recipient. It works O.K. except when there is no To: line (it happens). Most annoying is the case of news posting. I don't then see Fcc header when composing, but if I hit ^R, I suddenly discovered that all news posting are saved in sent-mail folder. Pine makes it silently without even inform me about it. Is it possible to supress it? I don't normally save EVERY mail or news I send. thanks in advance Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 08:22:25 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28228; Wed, 31 Jan 96 08:22:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01088; Wed, 31 Jan 96 08:07:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01082; Wed, 31 Jan 96 08:07:49 -0800 Received: from maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA3.0.0June95) id JAA28858 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:06:22 -0700 Received: from gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.18]) by maildrop.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.1/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA28748; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:06:24 -0700 Received: by gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id JAA37036; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:06:22 -0700 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 09:06:22 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca To: Carla Golden Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: HELP Deleted all my messages.... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Carla Golden wrote: > by accident...is there anyway I can get them back?????? I'm not 100% sure, but... If you mean you marked everything in your INBOX as deleted and then purged them, probably not. If your site runs regular backups of the mail server (where your INBOX resides) you could try asking them about recovering your INBOX... Anybody with a differing opinion, PLEASE feel free to jump right in here... Lea ---------------------------------------------- Marianne Aldridge (Lea) CNS Consulting Team; CWIS WWW/gopher admin; Helpdesk maldridg@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca OR helpdesk@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca 492-9380 (voicemail) OR 492-9400 (helpdesk) . (D)inner not ready: (A)bort (R)etry (P)izza ---------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 08:56:54 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA00379; Wed, 31 Jan 96 08:56:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02674; Wed, 31 Jan 96 08:40:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA02666; Wed, 31 Jan 96 08:40:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thfYX-00038RC; Wed, 31 Jan 96 08:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King [Really!]) Subject: Re: what means "cc" ?? Message-Id: <1996Jan30.033344.10532@pshrink.chi.il.us> Date: Tue, 30 Jan 1996 03:33:44 GMT References: <4ehps4$b7r@infoserv.rug.ac.be> Status: O X-Status: fcuppens@eduserv.rug.ac.be (Filip Cuppens) publicly declared: >What does "cc" means in the header of pine? The term comes from the early (pre-computer) days of sending letters. If you had to send two copies of a letter to different people, you'd stick two sheets of paper in your typewriter separated by a piece of carbon paper. The carbon paper would reproduce your keystrokes on the second sheet. The second copy was called a "carbon copy". It wasn't unusual to see letters that ended with "CC: John Smith" after the signature, which indicated that John Smith also received a copy of that letter. Nowadays we're well beyond carbon paper. If we want multiple copies we either tell the computer to print more than one, or we carry the sheet over to the photocopier and create all we need. In email, we can create infinite duplicates by specifying more addresses in the "To:" field -- or, in the "Cc:" field. It's customary to use the "To:" field to show who's directly addressed in the letter, and the "Cc:" field to show other people who are not directly addressed but who should also read it. There's a third field called "Bcc:", or "blind carbon copy". You use this line to specify other addresses which should get the email note, but who's addresses should *NOT* be seen by the other recipients. For example, I might send you a note and "Bcc:" it to your sysadmin if, for example, I had a serious problem with one of your postings and thought he ought to know about it, but *didn't* want you to know that I told him. Since the days of real black-finger carbon paper are long gone, "Cc:" is now often called "courtesy copy" instead of "carbon copy". The purpose is the same -- you're sending a note to an additional address as a courtesy. Most people still refer to it as a "carbon copy", however. >Please reply by E-mail. Replied via email and posted to comp.mail.pine. -- ------------------------------------------ "Welcome, child, to my magic dimension!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 11:11:51 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07928; Wed, 31 Jan 96 11:11:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07296; Wed, 31 Jan 96 11:03:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07290; Wed, 31 Jan 96 11:03:00 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:19:07 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id SAA03858; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:20:03 GMT Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:20:03 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Andrej Borsenkow Cc: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: Supressing automatic save of sent message In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The default action of Pine is NOT to automatically save any message you send. To change this you have to set up the "default-fcc" configuration variable, which I presume you have done. Once done this is now the default: for all messages (mail or News) you send. If you want to temporarily suppress it for the message you are currently composing simply summon up the Rich Headers (^R with the cursor on a header field) and erase (^K) the Fcc: value. If you keep forgetting the Fcc field consider setting up a default list of headers on the Setup Configuration screen that includes it. Remember that this list REPLACES the default set, so remember to include the usual things like From, To, Subject, etc. Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > Hi, list! > > The question: I have set Pine 3.91 to save sent messages by recipient. It > works O.K. except when there is no To: line (it happens). Most annoying > is the case of news posting. I don't then see Fcc header when composing, > but if I hit ^R, I suddenly discovered that all news posting are saved in > sent-mail folder. Pine makes it silently without even inform me about it. > > Is it possible to supress it? I don't normally save EVERY mail or news I > send. > > thanks in advance > > Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 > SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 > > NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 11:13:23 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA08002; Wed, 31 Jan 96 11:13:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07318; Wed, 31 Jan 96 11:03:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA07298; Wed, 31 Jan 96 11:03:07 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:20:43 +0000 Received: by tower.york.ac.uk (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/940406.SGI) id SAA28534; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:16:21 GMT Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 18:16:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Richard Pavlicek Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Annoying ^X usage in pine/pico In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I think you're confusing Pine with (standalone) Pico. The "send message" command in Pine *is* unique: it's ^X. As a courtesy Pine's quite handy built-in editor is also made available as a separate program: Pico. Within Pine's built-in composer (Pico in disguise) ^X means "get me out of this editor and back to Pine, saving my changes and sending the result". Within Pico ^X means "get me out of this editor and back to UNIX, saving my changes". Is it _really_ so different? :-) The fun REALLY starts when you start flipping between, say, GNU Emacs and MicroEMACS where ^X^C get you out, but one asks you if you want to KEEP the changes you have made, and the other asks you if you want to DISCARD them. Now *that's* fun! Cheers, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 30 Jan 1996, Richard Pavlicek wrote: > Am I the only one that finds this annoying? In compose mode in > pine, ^X means "send message," yet when using pine's pico editor > alone, ^X means "exit." On several occasions I have sent an > undesired message when I forgot which commands were in effect. > > This strikes me as an oversight, and perhaps in future versions > it can be corrected. In general I like pine, but the command to > send a message should be unique. > > Richard > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 12:26:40 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11960; Wed, 31 Jan 96 12:26:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11034; Wed, 31 Jan 96 12:10:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA11026; Wed, 31 Jan 96 12:10:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thini-00038RC; Wed, 31 Jan 96 12:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krs2@mango.human.cornell.edu (Ken Simler) Subject: Re: Convert Pine addressbook to Eudora Nicknames (addresses) Date: Fri, 19 Jan 96 18:21:28 GMT Message-Id: <4donf8$h20_001@human.cornell.edu> References: <199601171912.UAA16287@johanna4.hsr.no> <4dob62$las_002@human.cornell.edu> Status: O X-Status: I stand corrected on two points I made earlier. Thanks to Scott Gruby from Qualcomm for setting me straight. In article <4dob62$las_002@human.cornell.edu>, krs2@mango.human.cornell.edu (Ken Simler) wrote: >The last sentence here is the key -- there is no special format, not >even a regular or predictable format. For example, my nndbase.txt >doesn't look at all like your example. Indeed, Eudora Nicknames files are in a standard format, that used for Unix mail aliases (the Unix command mail, not Unix-based mail programs like Pine). One could easily append their nndbase.txt onto their $HOME/.mailrc file (after deleting any "note ..." lines) and the aliases would be there when using the mail command, which is more of a true standard than Pine is. >I would also like it to be as easy to convert my mailboxes from Eudora >--> Unix (Pine or just plain "mail") as it is to convert Pine --> >Eudora. It *IS* just as easy, but I swear this wasn't the case in earlier versions of Eudora, or am I completely losing it? Just copy the Eudora .mbx file over to the Unix box, and it's readable by "mail" and Pine. I haven't figured out yet how the message flags are handled (all N or all blank I could understand, but some of each?), but that's not a big problem for me. Thanks again Scott. Ken Simler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 16:27:36 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA23706; Wed, 31 Jan 96 16:27:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28965; Wed, 31 Jan 96 16:21:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28957; Wed, 31 Jan 96 16:21:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thmkG-00038RC; Wed, 31 Jan 96 16:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: John Subject: pine Question Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:51:40 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: is there any way to block delete messagews in newsgroups (similiar to the catchup function of tin> I pine is very convient except when you do not want to read 2000 messages in a new newsgroup any help would be appreciated john jwinte2@gl.umbc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 16:36:31 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA24132; Wed, 31 Jan 96 16:36:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29468; Wed, 31 Jan 96 16:30:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Xenon.EE.McGill.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29462; Wed, 31 Jan 96 16:30:50 -0800 Received: from gotham.ee.mcgill.ca (vrainip@Gotham.EE.McGill.CA [132.206.77.124]) by xenon.ee.mcgill.ca (8.6.10/8.6.6) with ESMTP id TAA17194 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:30:32 -0500 Received: (from vrainip@localhost) by gotham.ee.mcgill.ca (8.6.10/8.6.6) id TAA17812; Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:30:29 -0500 Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:27:40 -0500 (EST) From: Bertrand Olle X-Sender: vrainip@gotham To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID KN9DA): Newsgroup posting problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1409316857-894555740-823134111=:17786" Content-Id: Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 19:30:18 -0500 (EST) Resent-From: Bertrand Olle Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: --1409316857-894555740-823134111=:17786 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Content-ID: I succeeded in posting to "mcgill.test" I failed in posting to "soc.culture.fr" It says "ERROR 441 : address not in Internet syntax" BTW I can read this newsgroup.=20 HELP!! =20 =20 Bertrand ,,, (o o) *-----------oOO--(_)--OOo-----------------* __/ __/ __/ __/__/__/ Bertrand Oll=E9 __/__/ __/ __/ __/ __/ __/ __/ __/ __/ __/__/__/ (1-514) 938-1810 msg __/ __/__/ __/ __/ __/ __/ __/ __/ http://www.ee.mcgill.ca/~vrainip *-----------(__)------(__)--------------------------------* --1409316857-894555740-823134111=:17786 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = vrainip, full = Bertrand Olle home = /home/users/vrainip home_dir= /home/users/vrainip hostname= gotham localdom= gotham userdom= ee.mcgill.ca maildom= ee.mcgill.ca cur_cntxt= *{sifon.cc.mcgill.ca/nntp}[] cur_fldr= mcgill.test actual mbox= *{sifon.cc.mcgill.ca/nntp}mcgill.test msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=88, hid=0, exld=88, slct=0, sort=Date actual inbox= /usr/spool/mail/vrainip inbox map: tot=19, cur=19, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Date term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/ttyp6, size=63x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Bertrand Olle user-id : vrainip user-domain : ee.mcgill.ca nntp-server : sifon.cc.mcgill.ca inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : *{sifon.cc.mcgill.ca/nntp}[] default-fcc : envoye postponed-folder : attente mail-directory : mail signature-file : private/NipSign address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : select-without-confirm : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expunge-without-confirm : quit-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : auto-open-next-unread : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : save-will-advance : save-will-quote-leading-froms : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : expanded-view-of-folders saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Date addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : axe image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : No printer : text2ps | lpr standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.1 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/users/vrainip/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Bertrand Olle user-domain : ee.mcgill.ca nntp-server : sifon.cc.mcgill.ca default-fcc : envoye postponed-folder : attente signature-file : private/NipSign feature-list : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : select-without-confirm : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expunge-without-confirm : quit-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : auto-open-next-unread : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : save-will-advance : save-will-quote-leading-froms : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : expanded-view-of-folders saved-msg-name-rule : last-folder-used fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Date character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : axe image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : No last-time-prune-ques : 96.1 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : text2ps | lpr standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance select-without-confirm show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --1409316857-894555740-823134111=:17786-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 17:06:10 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA26028; Wed, 31 Jan 96 17:06:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27573; Wed, 31 Jan 96 17:01:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA27567; Wed, 31 Jan 96 17:01:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thnMC-00038RC; Wed, 31 Jan 96 16:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Signatures in Pine Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 11:56:08 -0500 Message-Id: References: <4e0bom$pai@senior.nectec.or.th> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 29 Jan 1996, Wendy Van Camp wrote (excerpt): > If I may ask an obviously ignorant question....how do you create a > .signature file in your home directory? I am very new to the UNIX > environment and don't have the faintest idea how to do this. Change to your home directory at the shell prompt (usually the cd command will do this) and use a text editor to create the file .signature . How to do this? Unfortunately there is no single, simple answer, because there are a short jillion text editors available for Unix systems, and I have no idea what is available on your system. They are all different. However, if you have Pine, you _probably_ have its associated separate text editor Pico, which is very easy to use. Just switch to your home directory and try entering pico .signature and see if anything happens. If Pico _is_ available (in your path), you are in luck. Just compose your signature. Then press Ctrl-O to save it and Ctrl-X to exit Pico. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: URL: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 18:12:37 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28006; Wed, 31 Jan 96 18:12:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04527; Wed, 31 Jan 96 18:06:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04521; Wed, 31 Jan 96 18:06:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thoMq-00038TC; Wed, 31 Jan 96 18:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eoverton@math.unc.edu (Edward A. Overton) Subject: Lock override Date: 31 Jan 1996 22:15:09 GMT Message-Id: <4eopld$12m4@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to invoke pine (v. 3.91) that will override all locks on the inbox? After a reboot of the mail server, pine freezes on any change to the inbox. I can successfully read the mail I have received, but when I expunge or quit (and pine attempts to write my changes) the program simply freezes up. The problem is limited to our machines running Solaris 2.3. I can obviously remove the ***.lock file in the mail spool directory, and as well can remove the pid file that is created in /tmp, but neither will release my inbox. I looked at the web site, and found justifications for the multiple locks, but no way to override them in one fell swoop. Thanks, Ed eoverton@math.unc.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 18:25:45 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA28382; Wed, 31 Jan 96 18:25:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01824; Wed, 31 Jan 96 18:21:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA01817; Wed, 31 Jan 96 18:21:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thoZs-00038RC; Wed, 31 Jan 96 18:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynch.94@osu.edu (Jerry Lynch) Subject: Re: Pine3.91 & Sendmail 8.7.3 userdb Date: 31 Jan 1996 22:50:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <4ejcqv$jn4@ns1.autonet.net> Status: O X-Status: Here is my attempt at writing a "FAQ-like" description of how I got the USERDB to work with pine. I sent this to the Sendmail FAQ, but it hasn't been added since I last checked. I'm using an older version of sendmail (8.6.12 I think), so there are no guarantees. I would encourage you to post a "feature request" or the likes to comp.mail.sendmail about this. I did so a while back, but never got any response. ------------------------------------------------------------------- * How do I get the user database (userdb) to work with Pine. The basic incompatibility with Pine and the user database option is in how Pine writes From addresses in the header. Most MUAs write the From address as "From: user", while Pine, for reasons given in its documentation, write the From address as "From: user@FQDN" (FQDN=fully qualified domain name). Because of this difference, the user database does not rewrite pine headers. One solution to this problem is to make the following change in /etc/sendmail.cf after you have the user database option installed and working with other MUAs: In the "local info" section, add the following: # Define our userdb file for pine rewrites Kuserdb btree -o /etc/userdb.db After ruleset 0, add the following as ruleset 1: ################################################## ### Ruleset 1, rewrite sender header & envelope ## ################################################## #Thanks to Bjart Kvarme S1 R$- < @ $=w . > $* $: $1 < @ $2 . > $3 ?? $1 username@localhost ? R$+ ?? $+ $: $1 ?? $(userdb $2 : mailname $: @ $) R$+ ?? @ $@ $1 Not found R$+ ?? $+ $>3 $2 Found, rewrite #NOTE ^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ # Use Tab Characters Use Tab Characters in these regions # to make three columns (the line with "mailname" only has 2 columns). Now the user database should re-write messages sent with Pine. If this still does not work for you, try adding the following to either the system wide pine.conf, pine.conf.fixed, or your personal .pinerc: user-domain=localhost This has been known to help solve the problem for some people. ------------------------------------------------------------------- Any thanks for the above should be sent to: Bjart Kvarme who was kind enough to post this solution a while back. On 29 Jan 1996 16:05:35 -0500, Mike S wrote: >I have recently upgraded to Sendmail 8.7.3 and I'm using the userdb >function to replace mailname@domain to First_Lastname@domain for >outgoing and incoming mail. > >Mailx uses this feature without any problems, but Pine continues to use >the mailname for outgoing mail. I have tried various changes to .pinerc >to no avail, such as not setting any user or domain information and >quelling mailname lookup in the passwd file. > >Could someone let me know if this is do-able with Pine 3.91. or if there >is a newer release that supports this. > >Thanks, -- Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 19:09:21 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA29312; Wed, 31 Jan 96 19:09:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06780; Wed, 31 Jan 96 18:51:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA06774; Wed, 31 Jan 96 18:51:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #1) id m0thp3z-00038RC; Wed, 31 Jan 96 18:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unclebob@ripco.com (Uncle Bob) Subject: "Mailbox format invalidated..." Date: 31 Jan 1996 18:55:54 GMT Message-Id: <4eodvq$arg@gail.ripco.com> Status: O X-Status: I'm getting the message, "Mailbox format invalidated - Consult expert" when closing a folder and going to another one. Is this related to some of my outgoing mail not being stored in the 'sent-mail' folder? Could anyone shed any light on these two issues? They don't always occur at the same time. -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Uncle Bob..............unclebob@ripco.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jan 31 23:06:11 1996 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA04652; Wed, 31 Jan 96 23:06:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA14027; Wed, 31 Jan 96 22:48:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nicnet.nic.in by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.01/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA13996; Wed, 31 Jan 96 22:48:10 -0800 Received: by nicnet.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA12978; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 12:14:13 +0530 >Received: from hub.nic.in by hub.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA15373; Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:44:32 GMT Date: Thu, 1 Feb 1996 11:44:31 +0000 (IST) From: Seema Khanna To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: compilation of pine on sco unix and sco xenix. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I believe this mail will be seen by all users of pine.in case anyone has a solution to my problem please do let me know: i have tried compiling pine on the above mentioned operating systems i.e SCO UNIX and SCO XENIX,without success.In case of sco xenix i guess one will have to port it rather than compile it since many of the libraries seem to be missing.But in the case of sco unix ,libcrypt seems to be missing in my development system and in the process of compilation pine asks for this library.In case any one has compiled pine on any of the above operating systems,mail me some help,i'll be grateful. thanks Seema@hub.nic.in or khanna@x400.nicgw.nic.in