From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 00:17:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09096; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:17:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19009; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:09:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19003; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:09:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZZph-00038KC; Tue, 31 Jan 95 23:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glenn@creator.ucns.uga.edu (Glenn Leavell) Subject: Re: several Pine suggestions Date: 1 Feb 1995 00:16:34 GMT Message-Id: <3gmjt2$q9j@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Rick Troxel wrote: >In article > >glenn@uga.edu (Glenn Leavell) writes: > > > > 4) Add an option that makes the 'n' (NextMsg) command in the > > > INDEX skip over messages marked for deletion. > > > > Try the [TAB] key. You might need to set some options in your > > configuration. Basically, it will cause you to jump to the next > > new/unread message. > > Yes, I use it regularly. But, it only goes to the next new/unread > message. Several new Pine users here have mentioned to me that they > would like to be able to quickly be able to get to the next message > that has not been marked for deletion. Maybe that's being too picky, > though. > >With the delete-skips-deleted feature selected, the above task can be >performed in 1 to 2 keypresses: Just press N to advance to the very next >message. If it's marked for deletion (check the upper right corner), >press D and you're there; otherwise you're _already_ there. Thanks for the response. Good point and good tip. -- Glenn Leavell, glenn@uga.edu University of Georgia, University Computing and Networking Services From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 00:20:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09168; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:20:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20161; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:14:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20155; Wed, 1 Feb 95 00:14:48 -0800 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA06286 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 16:14:31 +0800 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 16:14:30 +0800 (HKT) From: Mr Kevin Yeung To: Steven Feinholz Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Signature files at bottom In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 31 Jan 1995, Steven Feinholz wrote: > 2) When Forwarding an email to another destination, the signature > file gets placed BEFORE the included text, instead of at the > bottom of the entire email message. This doesn't sound to be a bug to me because you may want to write a short note to your recipient so the whole message looks like this: -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 02:50:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13244; Wed, 1 Feb 95 02:50:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22154; Wed, 1 Feb 95 02:39:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22148; Wed, 1 Feb 95 02:39:12 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA26817; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 05:38:48 +0500 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 05:38:48 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: "List (pine-info)" Subject: Personal Mail Flag Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 828 Status: O X-Status: What does Pine 3.91 look for to determine whether the "+" flag should appear in front of a message in the folder list? Some personal messages in my Inbox (or any other folder, for that matter) do not show the "+", even though they appear to be correctly addressed. Most of my incoming personal messages _do_ show the "+", but enough do not to cause me to miss important messages occasionally. Several of our other users have complained of the same thing. We're using Pine 3.91 SOL on a Sun Sparc Server running Solaris.2.3 -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 04:41:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16699; Wed, 1 Feb 95 04:41:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23711; Wed, 1 Feb 95 04:27:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23705; Wed, 1 Feb 95 04:27:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZduZ-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 04:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: the mole Subject: Re: Fcc problem Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:32:35 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3gmo57$42o@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Wet-Sprocket: > Comes here Mr. Mr Kevin Yeung with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" > group in this article on 31 Jan 1995 10:47:32 -0800: >> >> I have several entries in my addressbook whose fcc's aren't sent-mail. >> When I use the (C)ompose command to send a new message, the out-going mail >> is correctly copied to the corresponding fcc. But if I use the (R)eply >> command to reply messages FROM these people, the out-going messages will >> still go to sent-mail, which is not what I want. I have to manually edit >> the header everytime and I find this really troublesome. Is there a way >> to get things work (I'm using Pine 3.91)? Or will Pine 3.92(?) checks the >> addresses of all out-going mails, compare them with the entries in >> addressbook and copy them to the correct folders? Thank you. > > > It works in 3.91, all you need to do is remove the default 'sent-mail' > value to the default-fcc: option in the setup/config screen. And add > instead by A to add and hit return immediately. > > But by doing this, you will not have a default-fcc for others who haven't > graced you .addressbook. Suit yourself. > > > -- > ---. , , > \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ > \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' > Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . > Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' > __________________________________________________________________________ Nope. That's not it. I have the same problem. With some addresse Fcc is recognized with others it isn't. (That is, Fcc is properly set even when I take the address from the message I'm replying to, but just for certain addresses (Fcc is set for all addresses in my addressbook)). My guess is this has something to do with how Fcc: is entered in the addressbook. Suggestions, anybody? tm P.S.: Wet-Sprocket, I had problems with your way of citing, I had to re-adjust the posting by hand. -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . markusg@darkwing.uoregon.edu __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . . http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~markusg/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 05:47:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18837; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:47:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23860; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:38:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23854; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:38:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZexh-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stern@amath.washington.edu (L.G. "Ted" Stern) Subject: .addressbook conversion Date: 31 Jan 1995 19:04:36 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi all -- Two requests: 1) How do I convert .addressbook format to .mailrc format (berkeley format)? I have found brk2pine.sh in the source distribution, but I want to go in the other direction. I need this because I automate mailing and it is easier to use mailx than pine for this, but I want to use the same mailing aliases as in my .addressbook. 2) How does one convert .mh aliases ( name1: alias1, alias2, etc.), which are pretty much the same as sendmail alias format, to .addressbook format? This is to help a friend who is interested in converting from mh to pine. I assume that all that is necessary is some awk or sed script, but I am not the strongest at this. Email as well as followup requested. Thanks, -- -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 05:53:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19105; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:53:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24734; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:43:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24728; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:43:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZf8j-00038PC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: penev@pisa.Rockefeller.edu (Penio Penev) Subject: Re: Pine compiled for silicon graphics???? Message-Id: References: <3g0q07$qo2@abalone.ucsb.edu> Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 00:16:53 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 23 Jan 1995 09:45:43 -0800 Joyce Y. Wong (jywong@abalone.ucsb.edu) wrote: | I am looking for pine compiled for a silicon graphics machine | running irix 4.0 ftp://venezia.rockefeller.edu/pub/penev/IRIX4/pine-3.91 -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 06:32:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20464; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:32:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25174; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:15:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25168; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:15:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZfc0-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Need Pine Binaries, where's celestial.com? Date: Wed, 25 Jan 1995 04:35:09 GMT Message-Id: References: <3g0je5$kft@garlic.com> Status: O X-Status: Knute Snortum (knute@teleport.com) wrote: : On 23 Jan 1995, Robert Mann Packaging Co. wrote: : celestial.com *does* (or did) exist; I've been on there, but perhaps like : you, I haven't been able to connect to them recently, and I *really* want : to! I've answered this by private mail a lot recently, so a posting is definitely in order. ftp.celestial.com recently changed IP aggresses, and most of the world hasn't found out about it. Someone (probably me) needs to prod them about DNS propagation. ftp.celestial.com is now a CNAME (alias) for camco1.celestial.com, which is IP address 192.136.111.2 Another place to find my binaries package for Pine 3.91 for SCO is odi.cwc.whecn.edu. They're on the other side of MCI from me, through Sprintnet to Westnet. MCInet recently had a few serious routing glitches, so if you've been unable to get to WHECN, you probably can now, since MCInet has settled down. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 06:35:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20606; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:35:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24432; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:15:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24426; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:15:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZfaY-00038KC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 05:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: msimmons@dcs1.uwaterloo.ca (Mike Simmons - DCS) Subject: IGNORING SIGNATURE IN SPELL CHECKER??? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:46:01 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello! Many thanks to all the people that have helped with their suggestions in regards the pine program. My question...is there a way to have the spell checker in pine ignore my signature (from the .signature file) as well as some of the text in letters that I might be replying to every time I use it. ...thanks ...mike -- ****************************************************************************** R. Michael Simmons (phone) 519-888-4567 ext. 3456 Computer Services (fax) 519-884-4398 University of Waterloo (email) msimmons@dcs1.uwaterloo.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 06:52:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21258; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:52:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24942; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:40:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24936; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:40:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZg33-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 06:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eks@vki68.aar-vki.dk (Eigil Krogh Sorensen) Subject: [Q] How to force pine to save Passwd on disk ?? Date: 25 Jan 1995 07:00:55 GMT Message-Id: <3g4sv7$288@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> Status: O X-Status: How can you force PC-Pine 3.91 to save passwd on disk, so the user doesn't have to sign in each time pine is started ? Thanks in advance -- Eigil Krogh Sorensen ------------------------------------------------------------------------- VKI ! ! Water Quality Institute !Phone: !E-mail: Science Park Aarhus ! +45 86 20 20 00 or ! 10, Gustav Wieds Vej ! +45 86 20 20 11 local 2114 ! eks@aar-vki.dk DK-8000 Aarhus C !Fax: ! DENMARK. ! +45 86 19 75 11 ! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 07:27:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22389; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:27:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26124; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:16:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26118; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:16:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZgZ7-00038KC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Fcc problem Date: 1 Feb 1995 01:29:11 GMT Message-Id: <3gmo57$42o@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Mr Kevin Yeung with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 31 Jan 1995 10:47:32 -0800: + I have several entries in my addressbook whose fcc's aren't sent-mail. + When I use the (C)ompose command to send a new message, the out-going mail + is correctly copied to the corresponding fcc. But if I use the (R)eply + command to reply messages FROM these people, the out-going messages will + still go to sent-mail, which is not what I want. I have to manually edit + the header everytime and I find this really troublesome. Is there a way + to get things work (I'm using Pine 3.91)? Or will Pine 3.92(?) checks the + addresses of all out-going mails, compare them with the entries in + addressbook and copy them to the correct folders? Thank you. It works in 3.91, all you need to do is remove the default 'sent-mail' value to the default-fcc: option in the setup/config screen. And add instead by A to add and hit return immediately. But by doing this, you will not have a default-fcc for others who haven't graced you .addressbook. Suit yourself. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 07:54:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23537; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:54:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26115; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:44:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hopper.acs.ryerson.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26109; Wed, 1 Feb 95 07:44:16 -0800 Received: by acs.ryerson.ca (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01608; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:40:39 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:40:34 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Ribeiro X-Sender: pribeiro@hopper To: Info Pine Subject: pc-pine(dos) with packet drivers In-Reply-To: <3gmo57$42o@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 291 Status: O X-Status: Hi, we use cutcp here as our main connection program and was wondering if anyone has used the dos version of pc-pine with vanilla pktdrv and the config.tel from cutcp? From the testing I've done, pine can't seem to figure out how to connect to the nameserver to lookup hostnames. thanks, /P From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 08:33:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25595; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:33:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26954; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:20:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26942; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:19:54 -0800 Received: from [3.12.38.33] by ns.GE.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.32) with SMTP id AA29432; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:19:44 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA07642; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:18:15 EST Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:18:15 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HP Mail Client Configuration Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If someone out there in the Pine forest set up an HP (HP/UX 9.05) as a mail client to a Sun (4.???) mail host/server, HELP! I have collected some information from HP on this mixed environment and downloaded and installed a bunch of patches supposedly prerquisite to this configuration. My problem is that the modified sendmail.cf file doesn't look like the sendmail.cf file on a Sun mail client, so I can't correlate the entries. Please reply by personal mail to sugarman@mmmpcs1.psf.ge.com, since this subject is probably not of interest to everyone. Thanks in advance, Don Sugarman, Project Engineer sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 08:38:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25869; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:38:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27219; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:09:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27205; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:09:37 -0800 Received: from [3.12.38.33] by ns.GE.com (5.65/GE Gateway 1.32) with SMTP id AA28427; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:09:21 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA07397; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:07:51 EST Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:07:50 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: Pine Info Mail List Subject: HP Mail Client Configuration Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If someone out there in the Pine forest set up an HP (HP/UX 9.05) as a mail client to a Sun (4.???) mail host/server, HELP! I have collected some information from HP on this mixed environment and downloaded and installed a bunch of patches supposedly prerquisite to this configuration. My problem is that the modified sendmail.cf file doesn't look like the sendmail.cf file on a Sun mail client, so I can't correlate the entries. Please reply by personal mail to sugarman@mmmpcs1.psf.ge.com, since this subject is probably not of interest to everyone. Thanks in advance, Don Sugarman, Project Engineer sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 08:54:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26947; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:54:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27465; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:39:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27459; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:39:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZhoL-00038MC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 08:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cool Hacker Subject: Re: how to set up news on pine; do i need imap? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 05:11:46 GMT Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 27 Jan 1995, Leigh A Johnson wrote: > Date: Fri, 27 JAN 1995 15:41:40 -0500 > From: Leigh A Johnson > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: how to set up news on pine; do i need imap? > > > On 26 Jan 1995, Joyce Y. Wong wrote: > > > > > how do i set up my pine account so i can read news there? > > which configuration item is it? > > > > i normally read news with trn > > > > thanks > > joyce > > from Pine main menu, go into setup, then into configuration. On the > first page of the config stuff, enter news.gmu.edu where it asks for news > server (nntp-site). exit all the way out of pine, then go back in and > look at your folder lists. this will pull in all of the news groups, so > you'll have to go and unsubscribe to any you've already unsubscribed to > in tin. Also, they'll be listed in alpha order. 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[7m \ ( ( ) [0m \_) ) / [7m (_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 10:40:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03408; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:40:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01117; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:33:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01110; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:33:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZjcz-00038PC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdulaney@crl.com (John Dulaney) Subject: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 1 Feb 1995 17:33:04 GMT Message-Id: <3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: I can't export to a w/p as the crs are all wrong and can't find any editor that will alphabetize the lines...I hope there is one. Thanks for all help! Best, John * World Wide Wedb HOME PAGE http://xmission.com/~wwwads/mind/logic.html * Catalog E-mailed catalog as text, zipped, UUEncoded. Catalog & More at * ftp site xmission.com /pub/users/wwwads/logic.zip * WORLDWIDE SHIPPING-VISA/MasterCard/American Express - Wholesale/Retail * E-mail for catalog and more: jdulaney@crl.com - A nice guy in Calif. * WIN $500 (Canad.) vote 4 UR favorate NET STOREFRONT! E-mail 4 details * Plug for friend:Blind or seeing impaired? Ask for a free Scatalog.exe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 10:45:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03579; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:45:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01111; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:39:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu3.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01103; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:39:39 -0800 Received: from naz.edu by uu3.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA21977 for ; Wed, 1 Feb 95 13:17:58 -0500 Received: from hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu by naz.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-DNI) id AA07203; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:05:30 EST Received: by hydra.naz.edu.naz.edu (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04830; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:13:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:13:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael A. Naud" To: Pine Discussion Group Subject: Help with Pine using a Mac Plus Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what terminal emulator he uses. Thanks in advance. ---- Michael A. Naud Internet: manaud@naz.edu Internet Administrator Fascimile: 716.586.2452 Nazareth College, Rochester NY 14618 Voice: 716.586.2525 x827 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 11:03:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04365; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:03:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01581; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:57:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01573; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:57:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZjyl-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 10:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "V. Tandy" Subject: Using Pine in Russian Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 09:11:23 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am interested in the potential of using e-mail between sites in the UK and Russia for teaching language students. We have contacts in Russia but the problem is that I don't understand how to transmit Russian characters as opposed to Roman characters. It is possible to use the Roman equivalents but to do this one Russian character often requires about three Roman, in one case six were used. This is also not beginners stuff..I have spent all week trying to learn how to say hello, so I should know! I am not much more advanced with my knowledge of e-mail so any comments would be helpful. Thanks Vic From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 11:23:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05705; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:23:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02041; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:12:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02035; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:12:45 -0800 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id OAA06829; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 14:11:37 -0500 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 14:11:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: John Dulaney Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? In-Reply-To: <3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Try sort < input-file > sorted-file "man sort" will give you details on how sort works... Mike On 1 Feb 1995, John Dulaney wrote: > Date: 1 Feb 1995 17:33:04 GMT > From: John Dulaney > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? > > I can't export to a w/p as the crs are all wrong and can't find > any editor that will alphabetize the lines...I hope there is one. > Thanks for all help! Best, John > > * World Wide Wedb HOME PAGE http://xmission.com/~wwwads/mind/logic.html > * Catalog E-mailed catalog as text, zipped, UUEncoded. Catalog & More at > * ftp site xmission.com /pub/users/wwwads/logic.zip > * WORLDWIDE SHIPPING-VISA/MasterCard/American Express - Wholesale/Retail > * E-mail for catalog and more: jdulaney@crl.com - A nice guy in Calif. > * WIN $500 (Canad.) vote 4 UR favorate NET STOREFRONT! E-mail 4 details > * Plug for friend:Blind or seeing impaired? Ask for a free Scatalog.exe > > > Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 11:39:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06824; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:39:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02517; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:26:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02511; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:26:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZkVf-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: My problems with the HUJI PINE 3.91 for VMS. Message-Id: <1733899ADS86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 10:55:35 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article gerland@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jim Gerland) writes: > - 'C'omposing a message gives the following message: > > Continue postponed composition (answering "No" won't erase it)? > > Answering 'Y'es does not continue Edit the configuration file to say: postponed-folder="" The accompanying notes state that postponing a composition is not supported. This seems to be not just a consequence that the command (CTRL/O) on VAX/VMS already does something different; there is an alternative way to issue the command (ESC ESC O) but this does not seem to work either (unless someone knows better). Some of your other problems may be associated with choosing to configure inbox-path=NEWMAIL. I received advice from someone else in email saying this is not a good choice, as things are today: it is better to leave it as INBOX and then go explicitly to NEWMAIL. I agree it would be nice if this worked more in accordance with VMS MAIL procedures, but possibly it's not so simple to implement. What would I know, I'm only trying to use this package, not mend it ;-) I'll be interested in the answer to your other problems (!) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 11:47:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07187; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:47:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02578; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:33:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02572; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:33:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZkVx-00038KC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 11:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: FLAVELL@crnvma.cern.ch (Alan J Flavell) Subject: Re: VMS Pine and MAIL.MAI Message-Id: <173389F22S86.FLAVELL@cernvm.cern.ch> References: <1995Jan31.095122.160@venus.senecac.on.ca> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 11:18:52 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <1995Jan31.095122.160@venus.senecac.on.ca> IAN@MARS.SENECAC.ON.CA (IAN VAZ) writes: >I have Pine running on a VMS system. Works fine as long as you have >an existing MAIL.MAI file. If you are a new VMS user who has does not have >a MAIL.MAI file and then invokes PINE,...., craaassssshhh. It dumps its >stack because no MAIL.MAI file is found. This used to happen with another 3rd party mail implementation we used. We fixed it by sending a mail to every new user, as they were registered, using of course VMS "MAIL". Sometimes the stupid solutions are the best! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 16:14:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20234; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:14:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09830; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:06:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rocky.ucdavis.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09824; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:06:31 -0800 Received: by rocky.ucdavis.edu (8.6.9/UCD3.0) id QAA29397; Wed, 1 Feb 1995 16:06:30 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 16:06:29 -0800 (PST) From: Marc Blanchard X-Sender: fzblanch@rocky To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: how do you enter foreign language characters into pine? anyone out there knows? meb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 16:52:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21921; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:52:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10911; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:45:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10905; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:45:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZpRk-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: swanger@mail.auburn.edu (David Swanger) Subject: Re: pico: delete a block, paragraph etc..???? Message-Id: References: <3f92v2$lkq@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> <3fa00j$pct@news.asu.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 20:31:09 GMT Status: O X-Status: chander@imap1.asu.edu wrote: : Broddi Reyr Hansen (brh@rhi.hi.is) wrote: : : How can I delete a block of text with pico. Aka I need to mark the text, : : say few screen fills and then del it!!! : Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press : Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard). Then move the cursor to the : end of the block and press Control-K to cut the block of selected text. This works fine if I use pine directly on a Sun workstation (in an xterm window) or if I telnet to the Sun from a PC clone running various PC communications programs. *HOWEVER*, when I telnet to the Sun from a Macintosh using NCSA telnet, emulating either a vt100 or a vt220 terminal, when I try to enter Control-^, all that shows up on my screen is a "6". That's right, no "[ Mark Set ]". I've also seen this with some different Mac comm programs when dialing in with a modem and received the same result. My guess is this is a problem with terminal emulation and really isn't Pine's fault, but I am curious if anyone has seen this and has a work-around? I would appreciate any help you can send me! -- David Swanger University Computing Auburn University, AL swangdb@mail.auburn.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 17:20:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23629; Wed, 1 Feb 95 17:20:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11720; Wed, 1 Feb 95 17:10:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11708; Wed, 1 Feb 95 17:10:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZpl7-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 16:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs3mh3aw@maccs.dcss.McMaster.CA (Dyck NH) Subject: Re: Pine and procmail Message-Id: <1995Feb1.182914.20755@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> References: <3gmjgo$oht@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 18:29:14 GMT Status: O X-Status: Where can I find a copy of Procmail ? <<< Caution Signature File Under Construction >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >From the Terminal of: * u9108588@mcmaster.ca | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 19:09:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26774; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:09:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13633; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:05:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13625; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:05:22 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:03:38 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 11:03:37 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes Reply-To: egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com To: Marc Blanchard Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Marc Blanchard wrote: > how do you enter foreign language characters into pine? anyone out there > knows? meb > Well, for Chinese text I run pine in cxterm and then just enter the text as a would in a text editor such as celvis (a vi clone with 2-Byte support). Works fine....except there is no way to set the charset to something standard....since there isn't a standard for Chinese in MIME. (Since the last time I checked.) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 19:16:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26935; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:16:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13711; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:10:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13705; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:10:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZrjr-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 18:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Re: Signature files at bottom Message-Id: References: Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 17:15:57 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article , Steven Feinholz wrote: >I have set the signature-at-bottom in my Configuration Setup and >have experienced the following: > >1) When Replying to an email message while including the original > text, the signature file gets appended to the end of the > email. > >2) When Forwarding an email to another destination, the signature > file gets placed BEFORE the included text, instead of at the > bottom of the entire email message. > >Is this the normal operation of "signature-at-bottom" or is this >a bug? I would say it is. When you are replying to e-mail, the quoted stuff is considered to be part of your message, and hence the bottom of the message is at the end of the quoted text. However, when you are forwarding stuff, your message is what you add to clarify things, and usually implies that you are not making changes to the message being forwarded, so your message ends before the included text. - frank -- ********************************************************************** * You may be right. I may be crazy. But it just may be a lunatic * * you're looking for. - Billy Joel * *************************** Frank Yao, fyao@csclub.uwaterloo.ca ****** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 19:38:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27585; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:38:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14071; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:33:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14065; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:33:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZs32-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 19:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdulaney@crl.com (John Dulaney) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 2 Feb 1995 02:59:00 GMT Message-Id: <3gphpk$95b@nntp.crl.com> References: <3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: THANKS MIKE!!!! Best, John * FREE shareware & ICONS & CD-ROM disks/hardware/PAL/SECAM video catalog * World Wide Wedb HOME PAGE http://xmission.com/~wwwads/mind/logic.html * Catalog E-mailed catalog as text, zipped, UUEncoded. Catalog & More at * ftp site xmission.com /pub/users/wwwads/logic.zip * WORLDWIDE SHIPPING-VISA/MasterCard/American Express - Wholesale/Retail * E-mail for catalog and more: jdulaney@crl.com - A nice guy in Calif. * WIN $500 (Canad.) vote 4 UR favorate NET STOREFRONT! E-mail 4 details * Plug for friend:Blind or seeing impaired? Ask for a free Scatalog.exe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 20:36:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28743; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:36:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14954; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:31:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.crl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14948; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:31:48 -0800 Received: from crl10.crl.com by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA18286 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 20:31:08 -0800 Received: by crl10.crl.com id AA08188 (5.65c/IDA-1.5); Wed, 1 Feb 1995 20:32:28 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 20:32:27 -0800 (PST) From: JDulaney To: "Michael C. Newell" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Michael C. Newell wrote: > Try > sort < input-file > sorted-file > > "man sort" will give you details on how sort works... > Mike -------------------- Mike, thanks. I also read your note in the newsgroup and have thoroughly read the man sort file but I still have a problem. I know you're prob. very busy but if you know where I can go? The prob. is that I have first lines followed by indented lines. They are CD-ROM titles with a few lines of descriptions and price. Prob. is I only want the first line of each little paragraph sorted by dictionary, not every line. That would put the whole thing into a mess and I absolutely need the lines of description. Any hope? Much thanks and if you're too busy no problem. Best, John * FREE shareware & ICONS & CD-ROM disks/hardware/PAL/SECAM video catalog * World Wide Wedb HOME PAGE http://xmission.com/~wwwads/mind/logic.html * Catalog E-mailed catalog as text, zipped, UUEncoded. Catalog & More at * ftp site xmission.com /pub/users/wwwads/logic.zip * WORLDWIDE SHIPPING-VISA/MasterCard/American Express - Wholesale/Retail * E-mail for catalog and more: jdulaney@crl.com - A nice guy in Calif. * WIN $500 (Canad.) vote 4 UR favorate NET STOREFRONT! E-mail 4 details * Plug for friend:Blind or seeing impaired? Ask for a free Scatalog.exe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 20:45:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28926; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:45:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15084; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:40:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15076; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:40:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZtAP-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ajdevoir@southern.edu (AJDevoir) Subject: Re: pico: delete a block, paragraph etc..???? Date: 2 Feb 1995 01:06:38 GMT Message-Id: <3gpb6u$1e7@news.southern.edu> References: <3f92v2$lkq@eldborg.rhi.hi.is> <3fa00j$pct@news.asu.edu> Status: O X-Status: David Swanger (swanger@mail.auburn.edu) wrote: > chander@imap1.asu.edu wrote: > : Broddi Reyr Hansen (brh@rhi.hi.is) wrote: > : : How can I delete a block of text with pico. Aka I need to mark the text, > : : say few screen fills and then del it!!! > : Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press > : Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard). Then move the cursor to the > : end of the block and press Control-K to cut the block of selected text. [snip] > communications programs. *HOWEVER*, when I telnet to the Sun from a > Macintosh using NCSA telnet, emulating either a vt100 or a vt220 terminal, > when I try to enter Control-^, all that shows up on my screen is a "6". [snip] > -- > David Swanger University Computing Auburn University, AL > swangdb@mail.auburn.edu I had the same problem at one time. However with a little creative trial and error, I found the sollution for it. Hold the SHIFT key down in that sequence (i.e. CTRL-SHIFT-^). That way it looks at the "^" instead of "6". Good luck. -- Armand Devoir ajdevoir@ns.southern.edu file://ns.southern.edu/people/ajdevoir/www/home.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 21:08:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29318; Wed, 1 Feb 95 21:08:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15386; Wed, 1 Feb 95 21:01:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15380; Wed, 1 Feb 95 21:01:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZtUw-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 20:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccurtis@ee.fit.edu (Christopher W. Curtis) Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 01:08:37 GMT Status: O X-Status: In fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Chip Old) writes: >What does Pine 3.91 look for to determine whether the "+" flag should >appear in front of a message in the folder list? Some personal messages >in my Inbox (or any other folder, for that matter) do not show the "+", >even though they appear to be correctly addressed. Most of my incoming According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you an unsolicited message, there'll be no "+"; however, if they hit (Reply) you'll get the "+". Therefore, I`d say PINE looks for a References: line in the header. -- T | Christopher Curtis | There are two rules to follow | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | to ensure success in life: | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | Rule 1: Don't tell people | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N everything you know. | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 22:15:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00784; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:15:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16301; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:10:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16295; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:10:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZuX7-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 21:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) Subject: Re: Does Pine 3.91 have News Authentication? Message-Id: Date: 31 Jan 95 20:52:41 GMT References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Pine 3.91 does not support NNTP authentication. Yes, there are plans to support it... eventually. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 25 Jan 1995, Jim Gerland wrote: > Date: Wed, 25 JAN 1995 13:25:44 GMT > From: Jim Gerland > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Does Pine 3.91 have News Authentication? > > > If not, is there plans to add it? > Thanks, > > -- > Jim Gerland - Manager, Network Information Services University at Buffalo > Academic Services, Computing & Information Technology Buffalo, NY 14260 > 716.645.3557 Work 716.645.3734 FAX > gerland@acsu.buffalo.edu URL: http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~gerland > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 22:30:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01014; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:30:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16592; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:25:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16586; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:25:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZuog-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: pico: delete a block, paragraph etc..???? Date: 2 Feb 1995 03:34:25 GMT Message-Id: <3gpjs1$ivt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. AJDevoir with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 2 Feb 1995 01:06:38 GMT: + > How can I delete a block of text with pico. Aka I need to mark the text, + > say few screen fills and then del it!!! + > : Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press + > : Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard). + I found the sollution for it. Hold the SHIFT key down in that + sequence (i.e. CTRL-SHIFT-^). That way it looks at the "^" instead of "6". When all else fails, esc esc ^ (twice escape key, shift6) works for me, even for ^c, esc esc c works. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 23:16:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01931; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:16:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17180; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:10:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17174; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:10:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZvTO-00038KC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: johnson@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (Bryan W. Johnson) Subject: Filtering incoming mail... Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 00:28:06 GMT Status: O X-Status: How do I go about filtering incoming mail? I'd like to have a few inboxes, and have pine put the mail into the appropriate box (based on what's in the subject). This *IS* possible, correct? [[========================================================================]] [[ Bryan Johnson Arizona State University ]] [[ email: bryanj@asu.edu URL: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~johnson ]] [[ "When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if ]] [[ they ever press charges." - Jack Handey ]] [[========================================================================]] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 23:16:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01952; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:16:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17085; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:10:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17079; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:10:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZvTB-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 22:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: johnson@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (Bryan W. Johnson) Subject: Mailing lists... Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 00:26:24 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to add an email address to a mailing list in pine? I know you can "^T"ake the address while reading a message, but I'd like to "^T"ake the address and add it to a mailing list. Can it be done? It's a pain to have to manually add people to mailing lists... [[========================================================================]] [[ Bryan Johnson Arizona State University ]] [[ email: bryanj@asu.edu URL: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~johnson ]] [[ "When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if ]] [[ they ever press charges." - Jack Handey ]] [[========================================================================]] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 1 23:58:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03036; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:58:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17680; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:54:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17674; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:54:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZw5y-00038CC; Wed, 1 Feb 95 23:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Home directory Message-Id: <3gmai5$5j4@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> Date: 31 Jan 95 21:37:09 GMT References: <3dt0gr$8b2@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article , Ray McAllister wrote: ->This is a repost. I did not get any answers. Hope it isnt too much to=20 ->ask. Will appreciate any help for a newcomer (2=AB months on the net). ->Thank you. -> ->On Tue, 10 Jan 1995, Ray McAllister wrote: -> ->> =09Question 1, Please help! How can I access or see what is in my "Home= ->=20 ->> Directory"? I cannot seem to find it anywhere on either hard drive, to se= ->e ->> what is in it; to use it, or to delete it. Thanks a million. ->> =09Question 2, Where or how can I get a manual for Pine? ->> =09Question 3, When I go into rz to bring a pre-existing file into=20 ->> my home directory I sometimes end up with the Procom 2 screen telling me= ->=20 ->> Port in use, yet I have hung up. How can I get rid of Port in use and=20 ->> continue with Procom and pine without closing everything back to C:? ->> =09Ray McAllister mcallist@gate.net ->>=20 -- Ananda M. Kar | (H) 458 - 9754 | URL : http://www.cs.utexas.edu/~ananda ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 00:21:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03554; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:21:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17950; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:13:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17944; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:13:25 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:11:03 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:11:02 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes To: "Christopher W. Curtis" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Christopher W. Curtis wrote: > In fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us (Chip Old) writes: > > >What does Pine 3.91 look for to determine whether the "+" flag should > >appear in front of a message in the folder list? Some personal messages > >in my Inbox (or any other folder, for that matter) do not show the "+", > >even though they appear to be correctly addressed. Most of my incoming > > According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message > received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you > an unsolicited message, there'll be no "+"; however, if they hit > (Reply) you'll get the "+". > > Therefore, I`d say PINE looks for a References: line in the header. Sorry, I believe you are mistaken. If you look in the help for the Index screen you will see... o "+" for direct-to-you. The "+" indicates that a message was sent directly to your account, your copy is not part of a cc: or a mailing list. What I believe is happening is that pine simply takes the Left Hand Side of the address in the To: field and compares it with your account name. If they match then you will get the "+". Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account on hobbes. If you send email to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com it will show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 00:23:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03614; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:23:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18114; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:16:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18108; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:16:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rZwTQ-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tomc@pinn.net (Tom Cole) Subject: Bounce Command in Pine 3.91 Date: 2 Feb 1995 06:25:37 GMT Message-Id: <3gptt1$76j@everest.pinn.net> Status: O X-Status: We recently went to Pine 3.91 and I just sent my first Bounce message to the correct address and of course not knowing what will appear at the other party's screen---in reference to the headers with the name of the misdirected address etc. (about 20-30 lines minimum), can someone tell me if "Bounce" will strip all the extraneous lines off before it gets to the other party; (Don't tell me to ask the other party the next day!) And it will just show as a regular email message and hopefully no indication that it had to be resent? TIA, -- Thomas S. Cole INTERNET ADDRESS: tomc@pinn.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 00:57:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04505; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:57:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18517; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:51:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18511; Thu, 2 Feb 95 00:50:57 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:48:36 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:48:35 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes To: Tom Cole Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bounce Command in Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: <3gptt1$76j@everest.pinn.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Tom Cole wrote: > We recently went to Pine 3.91 and I just sent my first Bounce message to > the correct address and of course not knowing what will appear at the > other party's screen---in reference to the headers with the name of the > misdirected address etc. (about 20-30 lines minimum), can someone tell me > if "Bounce" will strip all the extraneous lines off before it gets to the > other party; (Don't tell me to ask the other party the next day!) And it > will just show as a regular email message and hopefully no indication that > it had to be resent? Did you ever think about bouncing a message to yourself to see what headers may or may not be added??? Pine adds the headers: Resent-Date: Resent-From: Resent-To: Resent-Message-Id: So, there is an indication that it was "resent". Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 02:07:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06547; Thu, 2 Feb 95 02:07:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19430; Thu, 2 Feb 95 02:00:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway1.DHL.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA19424; Thu, 2 Feb 95 02:00:01 -0800 Received: from lhrsys1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM by gateway1.DHL.COM id aa28280; 2 Feb 95 2:46 PST Received: from lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM by lhrsys1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM with SMTP (1.36.108.7/2.03-DSI) id AA25905; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 10:02:32 GMT Received: (from stares@localhost) by lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM (8.6.9/8.6.9) id JAA08498; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 09:59:51 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 09:59:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM To: Dyck NH Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and procmail In-Reply-To: <1995Feb1.182914.20755@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Dyck NH wrote: > Where can I find a copy of Procmail ? > <<< Caution Signature File Under Construction >>> The latest version of procmail can be found at any comp.sources.misc archive site or via ftp from ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de in /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 04:28:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10438; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:28:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21288; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:11:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21282; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:11:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra0LN-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Help with Pine using a Mac Plus Date: 2 Feb 1995 03:17:41 GMT Message-Id: <3gpisl$ivt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Michael A. Naud with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 1 Feb 1995 10:43:18 -0800: + I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the + laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that + you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have + one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function + keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what + terminal emulator he uses. Use the man page on 'stty' on your system for exact syntax for remapping some other(any other) key in lieu of control key. Hope this helps. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 05:17:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11929; Thu, 2 Feb 95 05:17:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22077; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:56:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22071; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:56:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra122-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 04:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Fcc problem Date: 2 Feb 1995 03:55:02 GMT Message-Id: <3gpl2m$ivt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. the mole with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:32:35 -0800: + >> I have several entries in my addressbook whose fcc's aren't sent-mail. + > + > It works in 3.91, all you need to do is remove the default 'sent-mail' + > value to the default-fcc: option in the setup/config screen. And add + > instead by A to add and hit return immediately. + Nope. That's not it. I have the same problem. With some addresse Fcc is + My guess is this has something to do with how Fcc: is entered in the + addressbook. Unless my Pine is slightly different here, it works for me. What does your fcc-name-rule point to? by-recipient ? by-default ? + P.S.: Wet-Sprocket, I had problems with your way of citing, I had to + re-adjust the posting by hand. Okay. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 05:34:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12478; Thu, 2 Feb 95 05:34:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22522; Thu, 2 Feb 95 05:24:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from piima1.univ-mrs.fr by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22516; Thu, 2 Feb 95 05:24:05 -0800 Received: by piima1.univ-mrs.fr; id AA04343; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 14:27:17 +0100 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 14:27:17 +0100 From: Lewis Message-Id: <9502021327.AA04343@piima1.univ-mrs.fr> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine compiled for DEC Alpha OSF Status: O X-Status: I am looking for pine source appropriate to or compiled for a DEC Alpha running OSF. Thanks in advance Lewis lew@piima1.univ-mrs.fr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 06:23:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13663; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:23:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23273; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:11:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23267; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:11:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra2CS-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: exporting multiple mesgs. Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:52:19 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 30 Jan 1995, Phillip Thomas wrote: > > I can "export" and "append" many messages (one at a time) to a single file. > > What I want to do is "export" several messages all at once, to a single file. > A 'block' of messages, if you will. > > I hope that this isn't embarrassingly simple. > Sorry, it is! Select the ones you need to export (eg ; n 1,5,17 - but there are other ways depending on the rules for selection) then type A E and they will all be exported together. > thanking you, pthomas@cyberport.net > > ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 06:23:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13698; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:23:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22941; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:06:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22935; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:06:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra27q-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: victor@Maluku.Jou.UTexas.EDU (Vic Menayang) Subject: Pico: justification? Date: 2 Feb 1995 07:44:43 -0600 Message-Id: <3gqnkb$r3@Maluku.Jou.UTexas.EDU> Status: O X-Status: I can't figure out how pico's justification works. When quoting people I often need to enter blank lines between or within paragraphs but hitting the return key often causes pico to justify the paragraphs. This might have something to do with the terminal emulation that I'm using: NCSA Telnet for Mac. Is there anyway I can prevent pico from "randomly" interpreting my return key as Ctrl-J. Or, is there anyway to disable pico's justification altogether? Thanks, -vic From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 06:30:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13891; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:30:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23015; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:11:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23009; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:11:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra2EN-00038QC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:59:44 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to reply anywhere else. I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 06:32:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13976; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:32:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23458; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:26:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23452; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:26:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra2Sk-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 06:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Date: Wed, 1 Feb 1995 21:19:30 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 31 Jan 1995, Jack Bryans wrote: > Is there any way to build pine so that it doesn't send "NOOP" out the nntp > port? No, there isn't. The more interesting question is: why do you want to do this? Do you or your users enjoy the prospect of having connections dropped due to a timeout? Remember, Pine caches much more thoroughly than most NNTP clients, so it is perfectly possible for a very active Pine user to have a seemingly "idle" NNTP session. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 08:06:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16423; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:06:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24971; Thu, 2 Feb 95 07:57:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24965; Thu, 2 Feb 95 07:57:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra3pq-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 07:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josh@sun.lclark.edu (Joshua Berezin) Subject: Re: Mac 7100 and Pine Message-Id: <3gn0qi$brp@sun.lclark.edu> Date: 1 Feb 95 03:57:06 GMT References: <3gj5tv$mce@catfish.valdosta.peachnet.edu> Status: O X-Status: Bill Filtz (bfiltz@grits) wrote: : Anyone having success with dialing into an internet site using a Mac 7100 : and a hayes compatible modem to emulate the VT100/102 keyboard and use : Pine? I've tried it with the ClarisWorks comm package and the Mac Comm : Center software that came with the modem. : I have ^G, ^C, ^X, and ^T working. The cursor pad, delete, and some : others don't. Also, the screen doesn't always clear, particularly when going : from the menu to the inbox folder index. I'm dialing in from a 6100 using ZTerm and it works beautifully. All commands work. The cursor pad is limited to up-cursor and down-cursor, but that's just because Pine doesn't recognize left and right to do anything. Try Zterm with ANSI or VT-10x emulation. Josh From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 08:23:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17094; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:23:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24986; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:13:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [144.32.128.13] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24978; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:12:56 -0800 Received: from unix.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <13636-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:10:19 +0000 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (940715.SGI.52/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA12659; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:10:08 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:09:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: "Why do I want to do this?" Our INN 1.4 news server software doesn't *have* a NOOP command! This means that they get logged and reported the following day by e-mail as "host xxx used invalid command yyy". Yes, I know the solution is to "fix INN to have a NOOP command"! :-) Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-432767 On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Mark Crispin wrote: > On 31 Jan 1995, Jack Bryans wrote: > > Is there any way to build pine so that it doesn't send "NOOP" out the nntp > > port? > > No, there isn't. > > The more interesting question is: why do you want to do this? > > Do you or your users enjoy the prospect of having connections dropped due > to a timeout? Remember, Pine caches much more thoroughly than most NNTP > clients, so it is perfectly possible for a very active Pine user to have > a seemingly "idle" NNTP session. > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 08:53:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18345; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:53:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25713; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:44:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tucana.dur.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25707; Thu, 2 Feb 95 08:44:20 -0800 Received: from venus.dur.ac.uk by tucana.dur.ac.uk id (8.6.9/ for dur.ac.uk) with SMTP; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:44:13 GMT Received: from hercules (hercules.dur.ac.uk) by venus.dur.ac.uk; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:44:12 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:44:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Cornelius To: Mike Brudenell Cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1223 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Mike Brudenell wrote: > "Why do I want to do this?" > Our INN 1.4 news server software doesn't *have* a NOOP command! > This means that they get logged and reported the following day by e-mail > as "host xxx used invalid command yyy". > Yes, I know the solution is to "fix INN to have a NOOP command"! :-) According to the text of the file, I have done this: I don't remeber doing it, but still ... . Anyway the file .../nnrpd/nnrpd.c now has: ... { "next", CMDnextlast, FALSE, 1, 1, NULL }, /* BJC 941109A: added the following line */ { "noop", CMD_unimp, FALSE, 1, CMDany, NULL }, { "post", CMDpost, TRUE, 1, 1, NULL }, ... It's at about line 100 of the file. It would appear from the lack of other 941109A comments that that's the only change, but I'm not that certain. -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 Academic Support Group, IT Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 09:13:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20119; Thu, 2 Feb 95 09:13:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26728; Thu, 2 Feb 95 09:08:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from yacht.ee.fit.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26716; Thu, 2 Feb 95 09:08:07 -0800 Received: from schooner (schooner.ee.fit.edu) by ee.fit.edu (4.1/SMI-4.0/900117wah) id AA21349; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:04:38 EST Received: by schooner (4.1/SMI-4.0) id AA16060; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:07:43 EST Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 12:07:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Christopher \"AWOL\" Curtis" X-Sender: ccurtis@schooner To: Ed Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > > According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message > > received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you > > Sorry, I believe you are mistaken. > > o "+" for direct-to-you. The "+" indicates that a message was sent You are quite correct. I haven't read the documentation since I installed the first version of PINE here. I have no idea where I came up with this. Pardon my waste of bandwidth. T | Christopher Curtis | There are two rules to follow | O E | Sun Lab System Administrator | to ensure success in life: | S A | Florida Institute of Technology | Rule 1: Don't tell people | / M | Melbourne, Florida N|N everything you know. | 2 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 10:33:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24497; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:33:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28879; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:26:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28873; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:26:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra6Dj-00038MC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: the mole Subject: Re: Fcc problem Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 02:49:39 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3gpl2m$ivt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3gpl2m$ivt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Comes here Mr. the mole with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group > in this article on Tue, 31 Jan 1995 18:32:35 -0800: > + [... description of irregular behavior of fcc and reply ...] > + My guess is this has something to do with how Fcc: is entered in the > + addressbook. > > Unless my Pine is slightly different here, it works for me. > > What does your fcc-name-rule point to? by-recipient ? by-default ? Thanks for the hint, I set it to 'by-recipient' and now when I reply to a message sent by somebody who also happens to be in addressbook the proper fcc folder is set. But now, of course, I won't get sent-mail as a default fcc folder for people who aren't in my addressbook, I get their username as default fcc.... > > + P.S.: Wet-Sprocket, I had problems with your way of citing, I had to > + re-adjust the posting by hand. > > Okay. Still unquoteable. (To much space at the left margin.) tm -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . markusg@darkwing.uoregon.edu __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . . http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~markusg/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 10:37:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24816; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:37:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28887; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:26:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from suprahwy.supra.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28881; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:26:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (smap@localhost) by suprahwy.supra.com (8.6.5/8.6.5) id KAA00991 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 10:26:48 -0800 Received: from a_mail.supra.com(192.203.198.11) by suprahwy via smap (V1.0mjr) id sma000974; Thu Feb 2 10:26:31 1995 Received: from altos.supra.com by a_mail.supra.com id ad23703; 2 Feb 95 10:26 PST Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 10:25:14 -0800 (PST) From: Jerry Koch Reply-To: jerry@supra.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: subscribe Message-Id: Organization: Supra Corporation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 11:05:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26205; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:05:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29649; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:55:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29641; Thu, 2 Feb 95 10:55:50 -0800 Received: from terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA01927 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:54:11 -0500 Received: by terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA (5.0/5.17) id AA15598; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:54:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:54:22 -0500 (EST) From: SI-Johanne Duhaime To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 662 Status: O X-Status: Good morning, I am a newcomer in pine-info. I looked at the FAQ but did not find any answer to my problem. How can I configurate PINE so that my adress is Duhaimj@ircm.umontreal.ca and not duhaimj%terre@terre.ircm.umontreal.ca. After registering to certain mailing list I got the following when I use the mailing: You are not authorized to mail to list GOPHER-L from your duhaimj%terre@TERRE.IRCM.UMONTREAL.CA account. You might be authorized to post to the list from another of your accounts or under a slightly different .... Thank in advance for your help Johanne Duhaime ircm duhaimj@ircm.umontreal.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 11:16:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27010; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:16:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00201; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:11:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00195; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:11:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra6tc-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: Mac port ; who wants to try ? Date: 2 Feb 1995 12:37:54 GMT Message-Id: <3gqjn2$dr8@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Status: O X-Status: Hi, There is currently no IMAP implementation for the macintosh... if you forget about Mailstrom, which is great but really limited when compared to PC Pine for example. I'd be very interested in porting Pine to the mac, if I had more time to do it. Time to do it no ? Are there people interested ? The code for Unix Pine can be adapted but how to use it with MacOS GUI ? Any suggestion is welcome Please report in comp.mail.pine too ! Guy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 11:20:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27272; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:20:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29955; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:06:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29948; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:06:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra6or-00038MC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan & DearOldDad from the Pocono Mountains) Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: 2 Feb 1995 18:08:39 GMT Message-Id: <3gr737$e6i@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both : annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to : Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to : reply anywhere else. : I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am : asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". Replys are normally sent to the 'From' address, unless there is a different 'Reply To' in the incoming message., in which case you are given the option of either replying to the 'Reply To' or to the 'From' (which is usually the author). The default answer 'Y' (yes) at the prompt, sends to the 'Reply To' address. Unless your setup works different from mine, you don't get asked that option unless there is a different 'Reply To' in the incomming, so the situation only occurs maybe 5 or 10% of the time. -- /~~~/~~~/~~~/~~~/~~~/~~\/\ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\ 717 646 9338 Jonathan Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel. \/\ 646 0162 Freckles If you ever need a friend, get a dog. / / / \/\ POB602 Clyde Cats are little people in fur coats./ / /zip/ \/18610 Mom If you think education is expensive, try ignorance/. \/\ Thought for the day: / / / / / / / / / / / / \ None: My mind is temporarily out of order./___/___/___/___/___/___/____\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 12:07:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00490; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:07:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01377; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:53:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crystal.amath.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01369; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:53:33 -0800 Received: by crystal.amath.washington.edu (931110.SGI/UW-NDC Revision: 2.21 ) id AA08411; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:51:54 -0800 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 11:51:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Stern X-Sender: stern@crystal.amath.washington.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: [Q] addressbook conversion tools Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: These questions *weren't* in the FAQ! Does anyone have any nice sed, awk or perl scripts to convert .addressbook format *TO* Berkeley .mailrc alias format? This is so my automated mailing can use my pine addresses. Also, does anyone have scripts for converting mh mailing aliases to pine .addressbook format? I asked this on just the newsgroup but got no reply. TIA, -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 12:09:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00609; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:09:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01482; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:59:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01476; Thu, 2 Feb 95 11:59:57 -0800 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa25157; 2 Feb 95 14:59 EST Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA21861; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 14:59:53 -0500 Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.comm Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 14:59:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: Guy BRAND Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ] In-Reply-To: <3gqjn2$dr8@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Guy BRAND wrote: > There is currently no IMAP implementation for the macintosh... if you forget > about Mailstrom, which is great but really limited when compared to PC Pine > for example. I'd be very interested in porting Pine to the mac, if I had more > time to do it. Time to do it no ? Are there people interested ? The code for > Unix Pine can be adapted but how to use it with MacOS GUI ? > > Any suggestion is welcome > Please report in comp.mail.pine too ! > Guy > Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac, that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software ) If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ? ( I have a copy of a mostly working socket interface to MacTCP that I found at NCSA. For other reasons, for the project for which I hunted that down, I ended up using the native MacTCP API. I still have an object library of it, but when I last tried to recompile it with the latest MPW, it didn't compile, and I didn't have time to look for the problem, and again a reason not to use the socket interface showed itself, so I didn't look at it again. ) [ Query cross posted to comp.sys.mac.programmer & comp.sys.mac.comm ] ---| Steven D. Majewski (804-982-0831) |--- ---| Computer Systems Engineer University of Virginia |--- ---| Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics |--- ---| Box 449 Health Science Center Charlottesville,VA 22908 |--- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 12:44:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01997; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:44:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02346; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:32:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02340; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:32:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra891-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jace Crouch Subject: Re: broken imap connection; editing too long Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 15:06:17 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3goutk$j8b@lacerta.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: I've had the same problem using pine 3.91 over a dial-up. A couple of times pine dumped me clear out to the which host? prompt on the Michnet lines, and even trashed the Michnet connection. I set the flag to "slow modem" even though I have a 14.4, and have not had a lot of problems since. Sometimes still, though, 3.91 "goes to sleep" during a compose session, and I just go and make a cup of coffee. It usually wakes up in 2-3 minutes. 3.91 is so much nicer than 3.89 that I put up with this. Maybe it's not in pine at all, but in pico? Jace From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 13:12:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04077; Thu, 2 Feb 95 13:12:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02944; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:57:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from anshar.shadow.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA02938; Thu, 2 Feb 95 12:57:41 -0800 Received: (lkadin@localhost) by shadow.net (8.6.8.1/jc-1.0) id QAA09619; Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:00:58 -0500 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 16:00:58 -0500 (EST) From: Lee Kadin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: missing header files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I just downloaded pine3.91. I am on SCO 3.2.4.2. I can't seem to fine netdb.h. Any suggestions? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 13:19:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04463; Thu, 2 Feb 95 13:19:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03624; Thu, 2 Feb 95 13:12:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03618; Thu, 2 Feb 95 13:12:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ra8mc-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 13:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jduche@creighton.edu (Joe Ducharme) Subject: news folders personalizing Message-Id: Date: 1 Feb 95 14:53:49 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have read the help info for folders and news folders, but was wondering if anyone has accomplished the following: I can change one of my remote news folders to read UseNet_Number_1 *{another.computer/nntp}[local.*] and I get only the "local.*" groups. That part works. Here is my question- how do I put 2 items in the [], say local.* and morelocal.* ? I tried UseNet_Number_1 *{another.computer/nntp}[local.*, morelocal.*] but it thinks the comma separates another entry. I tried just a space and got another error. Is this possible? I also haven't figured out that LINES environmental variable question (it affects pine but pico defaults back to 24 lines) if anyone has that answer. laters..... *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: << Joe's Roadside Attraction >> :* *: << http://bluejay.creighton.edu/~jduche/ >> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 16:12:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13063; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:12:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07951; Thu, 2 Feb 95 15:57:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07945; Thu, 2 Feb 95 15:57:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raBOZ-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 15:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: blaw1@rain.org () Subject: Re: Help with Pine using a Mac Plus Date: 2 Feb 1995 21:20:18 GMT Message-Id: <3griai$46u@news.rain.org> References: Status: O X-Status: Michael A. Naud (manaud@naz.edu) wrote: > I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the > laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that > you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have > one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function > keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what > terminal emulator he uses. For the MacTerminal keyboard (whatever that is), the ` (accent grave) sends an escape. Maybe two of those? -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Bruce C. Law v. (805) 639-0051 root@serious.com Serious Business d. (805) 639-0052 blaw@worf.infonet.net Easier investing research -- online. blaw1@rain.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 16:38:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14116; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:38:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08765; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:32:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA08752; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:32:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raBwV-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jrh@swl.msd.ray.com (John Howley {91404}) Subject: Re: Need HELP! BinHEX conversion? Message-Id: References: <3fmv6r$86n@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 17:49:39 GMT Status: O X-Status: >Ralf Matthies (matthies@rzserv2.fh-lueneburg.de) wrote: >: On 19 Jan 1995, Richard Hsiung wrote: >: > I got a mail from someone with an attachment (supposedly), well, in the >: > message, it tells me I need BinHex 4.0 to convert it?! Where do I find >: > BinHex and how do I get this attachment back into file form? >: you will find BinHex on the following aFTP servers: >: ftp.demon.co.uk /simtel20/msdos/mac/binhex13.zip >: micros.hensa.ac.uk /mirrors/simtel/msdos/mac/binhex13.zip >: PS: Ask me, if you have more questions... ;-) What does Binhex do and why is it needed? I have the same problem when sending an attached file (simple text file) from a PC (with eudora) to my UNIX workstation (reading with pine). If I use pine to send and read the attached file (as a test), there is no problem. -- -- John Howley jrh@swl.msd.ray.com jrh@id.wing.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 17:07:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16267; Thu, 2 Feb 95 17:07:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09274; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:52:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09268; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:52:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raCFH-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 16:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: golden@fohnix.metronet.com (Dennis Golden) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 2 Feb 1995 12:49:27 -0600 Message-Id: <3gr9fo$gtd@fohnix.metronet.com> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , JDulaney wrote: > Prob. is I only want the first line of each little paragraph >sorted by dictionary, not every line. That would put the whole thing into >a mess and I absolutely need the lines of description. > Any hope? > Much thanks and if you're too busy no problem. > Best, John Just sorting is not going to hack it. Unix utilities such as awk or the publicly available perl should handle the task. In fact, one of the examples in the original awk book covered this. Regards, Dennis From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 19:01:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19793; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:01:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11892; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:57:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11886; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:57:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raEAV-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Root Guy Subject: can't select in Unix Pine 3.91!? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:09:26 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello... I'm trying to select a bunch of my old articles from the news section of pine and mark them for deletion by trying the keystrokes ;aad As soon as I press the ; key, I get a message that the key is not supported on the screen (I'm at the index of the articles for that group.) Any ideas? Cheers! Roby From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 19:02:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19828; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:02:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11774; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:57:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11768; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:57:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raEC7-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Pico: justification? Date: 3 Feb 1995 02:39:10 GMT Message-Id: <3gs50e$ric@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Vic Menayang with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 2 Feb 1995 07:44:43 -0600: + I can't figure out how pico's justification works. + When quoting people I often need to enter blank lines between + or within paragraphs but hitting the return key often causes + pico to justify the paragraphs. + This might have something to do with the terminal emulation that + I'm using: NCSA Telnet for Mac. + Is there anyway I can prevent pico from "randomly" interpreting my + return key as Ctrl-J. Or, is there anyway to disable pico's + justification altogether? Looks like the keymappings/settings aren't set right on your mac. I use NCSA Telnet/Mac 2.6, and never had this problem. Go under Setup Keys and see if you can re-configure your keymappings. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 19:06:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19919; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:06:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11987; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:02:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11981; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:02:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raEFM-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 18:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: broken imap connection; editing too long Date: 1 Feb 1995 14:36:52 -0700 Message-Id: <3goutk$j8b@lacerta.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello, OS: aix3.2.5 PINE: client and imapd and imap server are all the latest versions: 3.91 When I stay in "compose" idle or not idle, editing letter for too long imap connection will break!!! Usually 10 minutes is enough to make it happen. And I am not the only one who experiences this in our environment. Has anybody seen this? Does anybody know why this happens? Thanks, Farid Hamjavar hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 19:26:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20376; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:26:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12163; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:22:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12157; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:22:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raEX5-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Craig Paul) Subject: Re: IMAP in this week's Communications Week - IMAP4 Message-Id: <1995Jan26.135406.83753@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 26 Jan 95 13:54:06 CST References: <3g2qiv$gf8@terminator.ncts.navy.mil> Status: O X-Status: In article <3g2qiv$gf8@terminator.ncts.navy.mil>, Paul Everitt writes: > Reading this week's (or last, I'm not sure) _Communications Week_ > magazine, I nearly fell out of my chair when I saw an article > on IMAP. Pretty succinct in content. > > --Paul Well, that's IMAP4, not IMAP2 (or bis or +). The most important question is when IMAP4 servers and clients will be available! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 19:49:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21111; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:49:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12639; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:42:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12633; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:42:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raEsn-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Configure default savemail Date: 3 Feb 1995 02:52:30 GMT Message-Id: <3gs5pe$ric@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Barry Landy with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Thu, 2 Feb 1995 15:53:10 +0000: + A user of mine (the same one!) wants to be able to configure the default + savemail (ie the one you get if you have the saved-msg-name-rule set to + default-folder). I agree that this would be useful. Either I'm missing the point or something...isin't there a default-folder already set if you choose that option, the folder being correctly named saved-messages ? -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 20:01:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21419; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:01:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12831; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:55:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12825; Thu, 2 Feb 95 19:55:55 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 3 Feb 95 11:53:35 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:53:34 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi..... I'm putting this on pine-info since the original question arose on this list. I tried to respond directly to Marc....but the mail bounced :-( ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- fzblanch@peseta.ucdavis.edu (unrecoverable error) (expanded from: ) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to peseta.ucdavis.edu.: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 550 fzblanch@peseta.ucdavis.edu... User unknown Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:43:23 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Marc Blanchard Subject: Re: your mail On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Marc Blanchard wrote: > thanks for the info. unfortunately I need to be taken by the hand. the > local people here don't know what a cxterm or a vi clone is. maybe you > can tell me. thanks awfully. meb OK.... cxterm is "Chinese Xterm". It supplies an input method to accomodate the various input methods used by the Chinese. You see, each Chinese character is 2-Byte...and there are many thousand Chinese characters. To enter one Chinese character may require 3 or 4 keystrokes depending on the input method used. I think cxterm provides for 6 input methods. Three for Hanzi (Beijing) and three for BIG5 (Taiwan). It is also extensible to allow you to add on additional input methods. In addition you can type in the hex values for characters. As for a vi clone....it is simply a program that has all of the same functions of vi except that it is modified to handle 2-Byte characters and 8-bit inputs properly. Let me know if you have additional questions.... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 20:22:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21961; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:22:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13044; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:17:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13038; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:17:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raFSN-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Pine and procmail Date: 2 Feb 1995 15:45:26 GMT Message-Id: <3gqumm$dlb@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <3gmjgo$oht@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> <1995Feb1.182914.20755@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> Status: O X-Status: Dyck NH wrote: >Where can I find a copy of Procmail ? The latest version is v3.10. So you might try using archie to find something nearby. In case that doesn't work: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz -- Sincerely, berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). "My name is Smith, the P is not pronounced." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 20:26:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22123; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:26:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13216; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:22:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13210; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:22:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raFWn-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rgittis@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (R.G.) Subject: PINE Return Receipt - HOW? Date: 2 Feb 1995 08:53:00 -0800 Message-Id: <3gr2lc$dhi@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> Status: O X-Status: I would like to know if PINE 3.91 has the capability to request a return receipt from the person that the message is addressed to. It would be nice to receive some sort of acknowledgement that your message did reach its destination. If anybody knows of how we would be able to do this, please inform. Thank you. -- IPPON! Sho Ari!! Omigoto, Hattori Hanzo!!! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 21:14:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23086; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:14:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13663; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:03:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13657; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:03:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raG3t-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 20:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Bug (ID ZH8IY): Random Chance or Deus ex Machina? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 20:16:27 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1987844063-866177055-791784775=:8052" Content-Id: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1987844063-866177055-791784775=:8052 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Here's a funny one. I pressed down all three buttons on my mouse at the same time while the pointer was on the pine window (sgi 4D/35, IRIX 4.0.5, Pine 3.91) and the compose-bug-report function came up. It seems to be reproducible. Since the bug seems to want to report itself, I thought I'd oblige and send it along. I don't see this as a pressing problem (unless taken literally, in which case it is - sorry for the pun), but I just thought you should know... :-) Ian Ollmann ---1987844063-866177055-791784775=:8052 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = iano, full = Ian Russell Ollmann home = /home/iano home_dir= /home/iano hostname= wong localdom= wong userdom= NULL maildom= wong cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= /nfs/wong/usr/mail/iano msgmap: tot=1, cur=1, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=iris-ansi, ttyname=/dev/ttyq4, size=65x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Ian Russell Ollmann user-id : iano nntp-server : 137.131.120.6 inbox-path : /nfs/wong/usr/mail/iano folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : News *{137.131.120.6/nntp}[] default-fcc : /home/iano/mail/sent-mail-Feb95 postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : /home/iano/mail/Feb95 signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : preserve-start-stop-characters initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : scripps.edu printer : lpr -Pnec standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 96.8 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/iano/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Ian Russell Ollmann nntp-server : 137.131.120.6 inbox-path : $MAIL folder-collections : mail/[] news-collections : News *{137.131.120.6/nntp}[] default-fcc : ~/mail/sent-mail-$MONYR read-message-folder : ~/mail/$MONYR feature-list : expanded-view-of-folders : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : preserve-start-stop-characters initial-keystroke-li : i customized-hdrs : Reply-To image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : scripps.edu printer : lpr -Pnec last-time-prune-ques : 96.8 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface no-signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---1987844063-866177055-791784775=:8052-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 21:40:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23539; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:40:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14204; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:31:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14196; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:31:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raGSw-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 21:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgvd@grape.epix.net (Jonathan & DearOldDad from the Pocono Mountains) Subject: Re: Configure default savemail Date: 3 Feb 1995 04:34:41 GMT Message-Id: <3gsbp1$839@grape.epix.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : A user of mine (the same one!) wants to be able to configure the default : savemail (ie the one you get if you have the : saved-msg-name-rule set to default-folder). : I agree that this would be useful. : Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, : University of Cambridge Computing Service : Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 So, change it ! DearOldDad -- /~~~/~~~/~~~/~~~/~~~/~~\/\ POCONO MTNS PA DearOldDad The older I get, the smarter I used to be./ \/\ 717 646 9338 Jonathan Kids are people too; Have guitar, will travel. \/\ 646 0162 Freckles If you ever need a friend, get a dog. / / / \/\ POB602 Clyde Cats are little people in fur coats./ / /zip/ \/18610 Mom If you think education is expensive, try ignorance/. \/\ Thought for the day: / / / / / / / / / / / / \ None: My mind is temporarily out of order./___/___/___/___/___/___/____\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 22:14:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24281; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:14:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14715; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:07:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14709; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:07:15 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 3 Feb 95 14:04:51 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 14:04:51 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko X-Sender: egreshko@hobbes To: Ian Russell Ollmann Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Bug (ID ZH8IY): Random Chance or Deus ex Machina? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > Here's a funny one. I pressed down all three buttons on my mouse at the same > time while the pointer was on the pine window (sgi 4D/35, IRIX 4.0.5, Pine > 3.91) and the compose-bug-report function came up. It seems to be > reproducible. Since the bug seems to want to report itself, I thought I'd > oblige and send it along. I don't see this as a pressing problem (unless > taken literally, in which case it is - sorry for the pun), but I just thought > you should know... Not so strange....and not a bug. What screen comes up would depend on where you are in pine and what is in the paste buffer for your mouse. Just for fun, after reading you message I moved my mouse into the pine window (main menu) and depressed all three buttons. I ended up in a compose session with an address from my address book in the To: field. Why? Well, my mouse paste buffer contained thac. In the main menu the "t" and the "h" are undefined. So, the "a", "c" key strokes were taken...... So, no mystery....and no bug. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 22:22:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24479; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:22:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14654; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:16:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14648; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:16:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raHD9-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sysop@mome-raths.iac.net (March Hare) Subject: Re: Pine for OS/2 (!) Message-Id: <2f31aa64.4d4f4d45@mome-raths.iac.net> Date: Thu, 02 Feb 1995 23:00:36 -0500 References: <5f8_9501200953@dialis.xs4all.nl> <2f22a733.4d4f4d45@mome-raths.iac.net> Status: O X-Status: I earlier wrote: : >BTW - I picked up on the OS/2 groups that a port of pico is : >available ftp, which I'm using right now to write this message. : >It works pretty well. I'm planning on using it for accessing : >UUCP news through my BBS. Now, I just have to work ou John McGing (jmcging@access.digex.net) wrote: : Is this on hobbes? Where? No, it is available from abrown.student.harvard.edu. It is "beta," but I haven't run into any serious problems yet. In fact, the only problem I had was trying to reply to a post one time where the poster did not put any 's in his post at all. John -- --- Mome Raths BBS sevot yhtils eht dna ,gillirb sawT` ^. .^ (513)523-7887 ebaw eht ni elbmig dna eryg diD ( @ ) Oxford, Ohio ,sevogorob eht erew ysmim llA .ebargtuo shtar emom eht dnA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 22:26:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24556; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:26:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14919; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:21:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA14913; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:21:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raHL2-00038SC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dan McCoy Subject: PINE FOR CDC EP/IX Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 00:44:38 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am running on a CDC Mips box using EP/IX by CDC. Is this a version of Pico and Pine that I can run? I have tried to fin one and can't, not even on cac.washgton.edu. Any help would be appreciated. Please send email to mccoy@cs.widener.edu. Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 22:58:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25302; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:58:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15108; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:51:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15102; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:51:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raHji-00038CC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbryans@csulb.edu (Jack Bryans) Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Date: 2 Feb 1995 22:46:49 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Mark Crispin's message of Wed, 1 Feb 1995 21:19:30 -0800 Status: O X-Status: In article Mark Crispin writes: > The more interesting question is: why do you want to do this? Well, getting along w/the world as we find it includes placating bnews, cnews, & INN, at the least. INN has never recognized NOOP & logs every one of them. While we're ok for now for spool space, we're hurting for / space, which, for us, includes /usr/local/news & all its logs. A days supply of NOOPs takes over 10K of log space. Sure, it can be argued that INN should be changed to accommodate every new newsreading client that comes along. I'd rather have all s'ware that speaks or adds nntp get along w/INN as it is. INN's timeouts are generous. W/all the PC & mac rewsreaders on our net, we see a few timeouts logged. But they are trivially minor compared to the NOOP logging. Jack From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 23:11:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25561; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:11:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15494; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:04:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15482; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:04:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raHvr-00038rC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 22:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 22:41:05 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: But what about when you want to reply to a mail from a mailing list but reply only to the sender (not to the entire list)?... ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Barry Landy wrote: > One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both > annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to > Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to > reply anywhere else. > I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am > asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 2 23:25:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25865; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:25:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15484; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:18:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15478; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:18:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raIEH-00038KC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ] Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 14:44:31 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3gqjn2$dr8@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Steven D. Majewski wrote: > Date: 2 FEB 1995 12:07:09 -0800 > From: Steven D. Majewski > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ] > > On 2 Feb 1995, Guy BRAND wrote: > > > There is currently no IMAP implementation for the macintosh... if you forget > > about Mailstrom, which is great but really limited when compared to PC Pine > > for example. I'd be very interested in porting Pine to the mac, if > I had more > > time to do it. Time to do it no ? Are there people interested ? The code for > > Unix Pine can be adapted but how to use it with MacOS GUI ? > > Actually, there are several Mac IMAP clients. Here is an excerpt from the list in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.software: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Client MIME? Source/Vendor Status ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- MACINTOSH ECSMail Mac Yes ISA Corp. 2.1 Alpha (I think 3.x is in Beta) Mail Drop Yes Baylor U. Beta MacMS No Stanford U. Obsolete Mailstrom 1.05 No Stanford U. Released, but buggy on some Macs Mailstrom 2.0x Yes Adam Treister In development POPmail No UMinn Uses POP paradigm; deletes mail Siren Mail Yes Siren Software Planned product TWG Pathways No Wollongong Released Zmail Yes Zcode IMAP support Planned > > Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac, > that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or > Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty > interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software ) > One of the Pine Team members did a little preliminary look at doing a Mac port and was basing it on Mint. But he dropped that in favor of a MachTen port, which is complete and in Pine 3.91. > If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface > around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ? > Yes, c-client works on the Mac. -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 00:07:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26955; Fri, 3 Feb 95 00:07:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16312; Fri, 3 Feb 95 00:01:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA16306; Fri, 3 Feb 95 00:01:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raIpu-00038PC; Thu, 2 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ee3cmk@bath.ac.uk (Chris King) Subject: Re: several Pine suggestions Message-Id: References: <3g0pds$r9c@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 23:10:37 GMT Status: O X-Status: How about having the TAB-completion on the ^R (include-file) option? :-) -- ~(:> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 02:52:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01064; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:52:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18323; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:41:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18317; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:41:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raLMT-00038CC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: treed@rohan.sdsu.edu (Tracy R. Reed) Subject: procmail .forward Date: 3 Feb 1995 01:07:01 GMT Message-Id: <3grvjo$k8v@pandora.sdsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Can anyone help me with procmail? I'm about to give up on it. I thought I had the correct .forward file, but apparently not. Everything else seems to work ok. If I do: procmail < test.msg where test.msg is a message I sent myself containing all of the proper headers and everything, procmail works perfectly. But when I send it to myself using Pine, one of two things happens. Either the mail never arrives or it does not get sorted like it is supposed to. I'm pretty sure I just need the correct .forward file for SunOS. I have read the SunOS man file. It says: For instance, to invoke the vacation program, user js creates a ~/.forward file that contains the line: \js, "|/usr/ucb/vacation js" so that one copy of the message is sent to the user, and another is piped into the vacation program. I have tried: "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" as a way of passing it on to the procmail program, but it just goes straight to my normal mailbox. I have the permissions on the .forward file set world readable. Any ideas? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Mr. Tracy Reed |AOL is lame. Get a shell account! San Diego State Univ. |The Pentium FDIV bug is blown WAY out of proportion! Aerospace Engineering |Don't even SAY "Info. Superhighway" in my presence! treed@rohan.sdsu.edu |IRC-Maelcum http://rohan.sdsu.edu/home/treed/ (D)inner not ready: (A)bort, (R)etry, (P)izza? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 02:55:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01135; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:55:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18557; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:48:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18545; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:48:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raLVl-00038CC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 02:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk (Barry Landy) Subject: Configure default savemail Message-Id: Date: 2 Feb 95 15:53:10 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A user of mine (the same one!) wants to be able to configure the default savemail (ie the one you get if you have the saved-msg-name-rule set to default-folder). I agree that this would be useful. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:03:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04806; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:03:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20309; Fri, 3 Feb 95 04:55:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-2.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20303; Fri, 3 Feb 95 04:55:10 -0800 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA13715; Fri, 3 Feb 95 20:54:33 +0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 20:54:32 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: procmail .forward To: "Tracy R. Reed" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3grvjo$k8v@pandora.sdsu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 3 Feb 1995, Tracy R. Reed wrote: > I have tried: > > "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" > > as a way of passing it on to the procmail program, but it just goes > straight to my normal mailbox. I have the permissions on the .forward > file set world readable. Any ideas? Try: "|exec /home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail -Y #treed" Actually, I think your biggest problem is the treed v.s. #treed. Without the # procmail tries to treat treed as an argument. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:20:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05197; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:20:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20483; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:14:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20477; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:14:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raNST-00038CC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 04:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jywong@abalone.ucsb.edu (Joyce Y. Wong) Subject: how to set up news on pine; do i need imap? Date: 26 Jan 1995 17:09:49 -0800 Message-Id: <3g9h4t$dng@abalone.ucsb.edu> Status: O X-Status: how do i set up my pine account so i can read news there? which configuration item is it? i normally read news with trn thanks joyce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:25:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05368; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:25:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20546; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:14:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20540; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:14:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raNTn-00038KC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 04:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ] Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 18:44:13 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Steven D. Majewski wrote: > Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac, > that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or > Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty > interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software ) A fellow by the name of Chris Newman at CMU gave me a package called NiftyTerm which essentially is a VT100 emulator + Telnet application. My thinking about a Mac Pine (PineApple?) would be to excise the Telnet code, and graft c-client, Pine, and Pico in its place. > If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface > around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ? c-client is ported to the Mac, and mtest runs just fine. I have a nice MacTCP interface for c-client that I wrote myself that (among other things) runs a mini event loop so even though it's blocked on TCP I/O you can still manipulate windows, switch to other apps, abort the current app, etc. Unlike Mailstrom's TCP code, my code works. I, like many others, have been very disappointed with Mailstrom, and expelled it from my Mac's hard disk some time ago. Mail Drop, on the other hand, works quiet well, if a bare-bones IMAP client is alright. I have higher hopes of seeing Mail Drop get dolled up than I have of seeing a usable Mailstrom. The main thing you would need to do in c-client on the Mac is have some sort of monitor/throttle on memory use so c-client can cache, but purge the cache (via mail_gc() calls) as necessary when memory becomes low. This idea was originally going to be used in PC-Pine, but memory is so tight in the 640K limit that we ended up not caching at all. On the Mac, I'd give it a meg or two of free memory to play around in. I've thought of writing my own native GUI interface for the Mac, but I have plenty of other things to do. What's more, my GUIs tend to reflect the fact that I'm an engineer, not an artist -- hyper-functional, but not necessarily pretty, with button panels from hell. I've thought of writing one anyway, but it'd probably be in VisualWorks, so it'd not be very helpful for the general Mac community. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:30:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05463; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:30:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20603; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:23:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20597; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:23:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raNdJ-00038QC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 18:54:47 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Barry Cornelius wrote: > According to the text of the file, I have done this: I don't remeber doing > it, but still ... . Anyway the file .../nnrpd/nnrpd.c now has: > ... > { "next", CMDnextlast, FALSE, 1, 1, > NULL }, > /* BJC 941109A: added the following line */ > { "noop", CMD_unimp, FALSE, 1, CMDany, > NULL }, > { "post", CMDpost, TRUE, 1, 1, > NULL }, > ... What a great idea! Every Internet protocol should have a NOOP command. Seriously, this is a bug in the NNTP protocol. We *did* have timeout problems before this NOOP pinging was put in. I think that I used to have a HELP command, and I got complaints that the entire help transcript was being logged (so the NOOP was an improvement). As far as servers which obsessively log commands sent to them, and the consequent loss of disk space -- are you aware that you have given every cracker on the Internet instructions of how to hit you with a denial of service attack? It's important that any logging which you have installed is careful not to allow randoms to fill up your disk. In particular, for non-authenticated connections, you should be *very* restricted in what events you log. If you log authentication failures, you need to have a throttle in order to limit the number of such events that can happen in a particular interval. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:45:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05823; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:45:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20772; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:36:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20766; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:36:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raNyJ-00038UC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: can't select in Unix Pine 3.91!? Date: 3 Feb 1995 03:03:47 GMT Message-Id: <3gs6ej$ric@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Root Guy with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Thu, 2 Feb 1995 13:09:26 -0700: + Hello... I'm trying to select a bunch of my old articles from the news + section of pine and mark them for deletion by trying the keystrokes ;aad + As soon as I press the ; key, I get a message that the key is not + supported on the screen (I'm at the index of the articles for that group.) + Any ideas? Perhaps by setting the enable-aggregate-command-set option in the Setup/Config screen would resolve this. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 05:47:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05866; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:47:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20809; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:36:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20803; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:36:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raNwK-00038KC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 05:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: missing header files Date: 3 Feb 1995 03:13:09 GMT Message-Id: <3gs705$ric@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Lee Kadin with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 2 Feb 1995 13:01:58 -0800: + I just downloaded pine3.91. I am on SCO 3.2.4.2. I can't seem to fine + netdb.h. Any suggestions? Pine3.91 has been already ported to SCO Unix. Here's the URL: ftp://camco1.celestial.com/pub/sco-ports/unix/ -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 06:43:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07500; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:43:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21562; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:30:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21550; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:30:40 -0800 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA08398; Fri, 3 Feb 95 09:30:32 EST Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 09:30:29 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Schlitt To: Mark Crispin Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Mark, I usually find your response to be reasonable and well thought out. In this case I am in doubt. It seems to me that there are two issues and I am not clear about what you are saying about them. The first is a protocol issue. Nntp has a well defined protocol specified in an RFC. To complicate this, there are proposed extensions and refinements which are not yet in the form of an RFC. But Rich Salz is one of the folks deeply involved in this revision. So the question is whether the NOOP is a part of the protocol (or is likely to be in the extensions). If the answer is no then Pine should not generate the NOOPs. This is as broader issue than just nntp. In other areas the pine crew make quite a point of following the standards and reject lots of suggestions on that basis. In this I believe they are correct. The second issue is whether client designers know in the abstract what timeout behaviour should be better than the folks who are running the servers. I tend to think that the server operators know better in the specific cases and should adjust the timeouts if there are serious problems. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 06:43:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07521; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:43:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21709; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:35:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21703; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:35:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raOnf-00038KC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 06:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 92004010@lambton.on.ca (D Kenstavicius) Subject: testing Date: 3 Feb 1995 07:35:19 -0600 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: teasing From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 07:52:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09043; Fri, 3 Feb 95 07:52:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22749; Fri, 3 Feb 95 07:44:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22743; Fri, 3 Feb 95 07:43:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raQ8G-00038CC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 07:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marcelo@ciagri.usp.br (Marcelo Zacarias) Subject: smaller pine binary Date: 3 Feb 1995 12:39:03 GMT Message-Id: <3gt857$gq9@bee.uspnet.usp.br> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to generate a smaller pine binary? Mine is about 1.5M (stripped)... Is it possible to not have the news-reading stuff compiled in? Thanks for any info. -- -Marcelo. Marcelo Zacarias - CIAGRI/USP Divisao de Redes & Hardware /* MIME, ISO-Latin-2 */ marcelo@ciagri.usp.br /* All extremists should be taken out and shot */ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 08:18:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09922; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:18:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23128; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:07:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lcco.u-strasbg.fr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23122; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:07:22 -0800 Received: by lcco.u-strasbg.fr (931110.SGI/930416.SGI) for pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA02003; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:01:57 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 17:01:57 -0800 (PST) From: Guy BRAND Reply-To: guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr To: "Steven D. Majewski" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mac Port... In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Comment: Centre de Recherche Chimie References: Universite Louis Pasteur Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Was : Mac port ; who wants to try ? [ pine or c-client ] > Is there a unix curses or termcap emulation library for the Mac, > that would work with either MPW's SIOW ( Simple I/O Window ) or > Think C's console ? If there were, a straight port of the tty > interface could be easily done ( as could lots of other unix software ) Dunno ! Has anyone informations on that ? > > If not, it might be better to just start a clean native GUI interface > around c-client code. Has C-client been ported successfully to the Mac ? It's in the pine 3.91 package, under the c-client directory, here's is some piece of it : /* * Program: Operating-system dependent routines -- Macintosh version * * Author: Mark Crispin * 6158 Lariat Loop NE * Bainbridge Island, WA 98110-2098 * Internet: MRC@Panda.COM * * Date: 26 January 1992 * Last Edited: 14 September 1994 * * Copyright 1994 by Mark Crispin * */ /* This is a totally new operating-system dependent module for the Macintosh, * written using THINK C on my Mac PowerBook-100 in my free time. * Unlike earlier efforts, this version requires no external TCP library. It * also takes advantage of the Map panel in System 7 for the timezone. */ Guy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr Centre de Recherche Chimie ULP Strasbourg (FRANCE) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 08:20:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10056; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:20:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23170; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:09:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay2.UU.NET by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23164; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:08:56 -0800 Received: from uucp5.UU.NET by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP id QQybmu08817; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:08:34 -0500 Received: from cate.UUCP by uucp5.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 11:08:54 -0500 Received: from cate2.UUCP (root@localhost) by cate.uucp (8.6.9/8.6.9) with UUCP id HAA00375 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 07:32:01 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 10:25:48 +24000 From: Vincent Cate Subject: Pine as a BBS To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am using the Unix Pine 3.89 as the shell for dial in users. My hope is that users can only get/send email or netnews. I like Pine a lot, it is really good for new users (all we have here in Anguilla). I have some questions. First, about security. I don't want users to be able to get out of Pine. Are there any recommended settings to tighten up security? How tight can it get? I think I don't want them to be able to read or write files on the Unix machine except for their folders. I noticed the "-r" restricted flag. This is kind of what I am after, but I want the users to still have folders and be able to send mail. I may just modify that a bit. Second, is there a PC-Pine for PCs that dial into a Unix system? I have not used the PC-Pine, but it looks like it is for PCs on a network. Do I have to use SLIP or UUPC on all the PCs? Is there other software that runs on PCs so users can write and read mail offline so they don't need to stay connected to my machine so long? (Cable and Wireless is very slow about getting me more phone lines - nearly 3 months now.) Thanks, -- Vince From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 08:31:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10413; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:31:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23306; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:17:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.crl.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23300; Fri, 3 Feb 95 08:17:39 -0800 Received: from crl.crl.com (crl.com) by mail.crl.com with SMTP id AA23663 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 08:08:32 -0800 Received: by crl.crl.com id AA26111 (5.65c/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Fri, 3 Feb 1995 08:08:31 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 08:08:31 -0800 (PST) From: "Paul J. Kossick" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Installation Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Greetings, Can I get instructions for decompressing, compiling, and installing pine on a Pyramid OSx system? I realise this may be a tall order, but I'm starting from scratch here, and just trying to get a usable mail program running (the one we have now is horrible!). Thank you. -Paul J. Kossick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 09:53:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14035; Fri, 3 Feb 95 09:53:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25634; Fri, 3 Feb 95 09:49:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA25628; Fri, 3 Feb 95 09:49:10 -0800 Received: from kelly.teleport.com (knute@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA00979 for ; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 09:49:08 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 09:49:06 -0800 (PST) From: Knute Snortum To: "Robert Mann Packaging Co." Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Wyse60 Support In-Reply-To: <3g3o90$lt9@garlic.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 24 Jan 1995, Robert Mann Packaging Co. wrote: > Ok ... I finally got pine, and I've been playing around with it, and I > suddenly realize that the cursor keys on our Wyse60 terminals are not > working inside Pine ... > > It looks like the cursor keys send ^K, ^J, ^H, and ^L, which Pine uses > for other purposes. Is there a way to remap these keys inside Pine, or > do I initialize the terminal to a different type going in??? > > Anybody ever run into this? Oh yes. Our solution (which we haven't implemented yet) is to make the Wyse60's ansi. On our system you would set the TERM variable to wyse60ak and do a tset. It doesn't fix everything (PgUp and PgDn don't work for instance) but it's a start. Be careful! If your other packages are expecting non-ansi keyboards you'll need to undo what you did above. Also, if you flip from session to session, you may wind up with the wrong keyboard in the wrong program. Some day we will make all our programs talk ansi, but for now I just use the control keys. Other people have mini-scripts that take them into and out of ansi as they go in and out of pine, but watch out for task switching! ---Knute Snortum Internet: knute@msi.masi.com MAS, Inc. or knute@teleport.com CompuServe: 72144,1646 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 11:22:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18784; Fri, 3 Feb 95 11:22:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27548; Fri, 3 Feb 95 11:14:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27542; Fri, 3 Feb 95 11:14:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raTNn-00038QC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 11:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hlavaty@panix.com (Arthur Hlavaty) Subject: Address Book Problems Date: 3 Feb 1995 11:16:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3gtks3$o9g@panix.com> Status: O X-Status: When I ask pine to print out my address book, it skips a big chunk of stuff in the middle. Deleting the item where it began to skip does not help. -- Arthur D. Hlavaty hlavaty@panix.com Church of the SuperGenius In Wile E. We Trust From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 12:28:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21816; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:28:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29497; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:24:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vcc7.langara.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29489; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:24:25 -0800 Received: by vcc7.langara.bc.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA05653; Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:23:21 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 12:23:21 -0800 (PST) From: Diane Bradley Reply-To: Diane Bradley Subject: french accents in unix-aix-pine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I have read the fact sheet by Richard Shima at Cleveland Freenet and gather that it is not easy to make French accents print out. However has anyone made them print in unix-aix-pine(Korn shell). I have posted several messages to francophones and have received a suggestion to try to get some free Eudora software. Suggestions from anyone working on the same type of system are most welcome. We use character based workstations, not windows at the moment. Appended is a message containing other info someone sent me for c shell. Could this be made to work in k shell and if so how? Diane |\^/| Diane Bradley - dbradley@langara.bc.ca _|\| |/|_ Langara College \ / 100 West 49th Avenue <____ ____> Vancouver, B.C. V5Y 2Z6, Canada | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Comme toi je viens de me battre avec ma station pour lui faire afficher les accents. Je viens de gagner la bataille. Sur un Sun en Solaris 2 j'ai mis setenv LANG fr setenv LC_CTYPE iso_8859_1 /usr/bin/stty -istrip cs8 dans mes fichiers d'environnement .cshrc ou .login. Ca semble marcher egalement sans la derniere ligne. Ca marchait sur la console, mais pas dans Openwindows. Pour que ca marche en Openwindows il faut avoir SETDISPLAYSCREEN() { DISPLAY=${BASEDISPLAY}.$1 if winsysck x11 ; then : else echo No display available for screen $1 exit 1 fi eval `svenv -env` } dans le fichier .openwin-init. Ca ne marchait pas tant que je n'avais pas la ligne "eval `svenv -env`". Pour AIX je ne peux rien dire. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 12:50:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22768; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:50:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29981; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:44:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29975; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:44:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raUpV-00038PC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kolsam@csulb.edu (Kolsam Mel Keo) Subject: Need help with signature! Date: 3 Feb 1995 17:01:15 GMT Message-Id: <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi, How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my .signature file appends at the bottom? Please reply me. Thanks. Mel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 12:58:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23100; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:58:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29845; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:54:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29839; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:54:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raUzL-00038PC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 12:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: olin@cheme.cornell.edu (Steve Thompson) Subject: Do you use PC-PINE with PC-NFS? Date: 3 Feb 1995 16:57:59 GMT Message-Id: <3gtnan$2mf@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> Status: O X-Status: I would be interested in corresponding with anyone who has managed to get PC-PINE 3.91 working with PC-NFS 5.1 (DOS 6.00). I'd like to know how you did it! Rather than going into a lot of detail here, suffice it to say that pine cannot find the inbox (it gives "[Host not found: xxxxx]"). I can connect to the host just fine from all other applications, and can successfully connect to the IMAP server ("telnet xxxx 143"). Pine: no go. -steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Thompson, System Mangler Internet: thompson@cheme.cornell.edu School of Chemical Engineering Phone: (607) 255 5573 Olin Hall, Cornell University FAX: (607) 255 9166 Ithaca NY 14853 "Time is just one damn thing after another" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 13:29:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24527; Fri, 3 Feb 95 13:29:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01131; Fri, 3 Feb 95 13:24:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01125; Fri, 3 Feb 95 13:24:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raVTY-00038PC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 13:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: uredfire@mcl.ucsb.edu (Jeffrey A. Striek) Subject: EWAN telnet for Winsock and PINE Date: 3 Feb 1995 20:31:34 GMT Message-Id: <3gu3r6$1aa@ucsbuxb.ucsb.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi folks- Just have one question concerning EWAN telnet for Winsock, and PINE. A user tried to print an e-mail message from his account (which uses pine), through EWAN Telnet, a Winsock App. However, the print job didn't go through. Instead, EWAN or PINE erased the e-mail message. Does anyone have any insight concerning this problem? If so, I would really appreciate a response. TIA! Jeff redfire@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu -- | Jeffrey A. Striek | redfire@beauty.mcl.ucsb.edu | University of | | Computer Tech./ | uredfire@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu | California at | | SysOp | jstriek@envirolink.org | Santa Barbara | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 14:18:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26244; Fri, 3 Feb 95 14:18:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01794; Fri, 3 Feb 95 14:09:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01788; Fri, 3 Feb 95 14:09:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raW8R-00038PC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 14:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nguyen@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (TT Nguyen (Economics)) Subject: [PICO] Going beyond column 72 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 22:12:50 GMT Status: O X-Status: I need to type lines longer than 72 columns but somehow PICO/PINE keeps wrapping the lines after, say, 72 columns. Is there anyway to turn off that feature of auto-wrapping? Or is there anyway to set the right margin beyond 72 columns? The reason I need to go beyond 72 columns is that I'm sending commands to a listserver which somehow does not recognize the usual continuation characters &. At the moment, I use VI to prepare the files and then send them off either by ELM or MAIL. Othertimes, I use PINE to read my usual mails. A little bit cumbersome! -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 15:18:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28999; Fri, 3 Feb 95 15:18:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03636; Fri, 3 Feb 95 15:07:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA03630; Fri, 3 Feb 95 15:07:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raX1u-00038PC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 15:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yku00401@rufous.yorku.ca (Ilan Graifer) Subject: Compiling pine on FreeBSD 2.0R Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 16:46:36 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have been trying to compile pine on a system running FreeBSD 2.0R, but I wasn't successful in doing so. I have tried both "build bsd" and "build bsi" with the same result. If anyone managed to compile pine for this platform, could you send the patches. Thanks Ilan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 17:58:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07065; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:58:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07641; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:55:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA07635; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:55:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raZgS-00038eC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Force Subject: Qmodem and "attached-to-ansi" Printing Problem Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 19:50:22 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm trying to resolve a printing problem for a friend using Qmodem V4.5 as his PC communications software. It appears that Qmodem does not understand the ansi escape sequences for printing which are sent by PINE when invoking the "Y" (attached-to-ansi print) function. Since I use TELIX, I'm not that familiar with Qmodem. Does anyone know if it's possible to configure Qmodem to recognize these ansi escape sequences. If it can't be done then I'll get him to switch to TELIX but I'm trying to save him the agony of beginning yet another learning curve. Many thanks in advance. Eric ====================================================================== | Have a Great Day! | Challenging Crossword Puzzles via Email | | Eric Force | New Puzzle Daily. For Information: | | eforce@acy.digex.net | --> finger xword@acy.digex.net <-- | ====================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 21:06:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11248; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:06:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10599; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:01:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10593; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:01:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0racZu-00038xC; Fri, 3 Feb 95 20:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Randy Holder Subject: How can I demo Pc-Pine when not networked? Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 10:21:39 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I teach introductory classes to students using e-mail for the first time all over our campus (15,000+ students). Many times the class rooms that I visit are not networked. Using a laptop and LCD Projector, I can run a powerpoint slide show and then demo PCPINE (which looks almost identical to pine under unix) except that I can't seem to compose due to the fact that it looks for an imap server. Is there any way to fake it so that it thinks I can compose? (I really don't want to send anything - just show students how pine works.) Any help will be appreciated! Randy Holder _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Randy V. Holder Phone: (501) 575-2905 Electronic Mail Support Specialist Fax: (501) 575-4753 Lotus 1-2-3 Support Email: Rholder@comp.uark.edu University of Arkansas Fayetteville, Arkansas ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3091 weeks, 15 hours, > 16 minutes, 51 seconds _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 21:41:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11979; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:41:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10447; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:35:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA10441; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:35:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rad7F-000390C; Fri, 3 Feb 95 21:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cool Hacker Subject: Re: Need help with signature! In-Reply-To: <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: References: <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 04:15:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 3 Feb 1995, Kolsam Mel Keo wrote: > Date: 3 FEB 1995 17:01:15 GMT > From: Kolsam Mel Keo > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Need help with signature! > > > Hi, > > How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my > .signature file appends at the bottom? > > Please reply me. Thanks. > > Mel > > if you are using pine 3.91 just create a file called .signature in you home directory [0m-- [7mThe above is a result of random neuron activity in the writer's brain. [0m [7m \\\/// [0m / _ _ \ [7m (| (.)(.) |) [0m+---------------------oOOo- () -oOOo---------------------------------+ [7m......| |......................................POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY. [0m......| |.............__ ....__......................... Computer Eng. 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[7m \ ( ( ) [0m \_) ) / [7m (_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 22:40:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13165; Fri, 3 Feb 95 22:40:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11804; Fri, 3 Feb 95 22:35:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11798; Fri, 3 Feb 95 22:35:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rae3A-000391C; Fri, 3 Feb 95 22:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: roland@fast.net Subject: Re: broken imap connection; editing too long Date: 4 Feb 1995 02:30:53 GMT Message-Id: <3guost$ci6@ns.fast.net> References: <3goutk$j8b@lacerta.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: > hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) writes: > OS: aix3.2.5 > PINE: client and imapd and imap server are all the latest versions: 3.91 > > When I stay in "compose" idle or not idle, editing letter for too long > imap connection will break!!! Usually 10 minutes is enough to make > it happen. And I am not the only one who experiences this in our > environment. Has anybody seen this? Does anybody know why this > happens? I have the same problem running PC-Pine Win through a PPP dialup. After an extended edit or compose, when I attempt to send, Pine comes back with an error message "IMAP Connection Went Away". Only workaround I've come up with is to let Pine time out until the "Break connection?" prompt, break the connnection, postpone the message, then quit and restart Pine. Sorry I don't have an answer for you. My service provider is no help, and a previous post here yielded no suggestions. Anyone have any ideas to resolve the connection timeout problem? Roland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 3 23:46:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14343; Fri, 3 Feb 95 23:46:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12692; Fri, 3 Feb 95 23:41:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA12686; Fri, 3 Feb 95 23:41:45 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14818; Fri, 3 Feb 95 23:41:42 -0800 Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 23:41:40 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: roland@fast.net Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: broken imap connection; editing too long In-Reply-To: <3guost$ci6@ns.fast.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Are either of you using an alternate-editor? When an alternate editor is active, Pine is asleep and unable to "ping" the IMAP server to prevent the server timeout. This is a problem, but so far we don't have a good solution for it. -teg On 4 Feb 1995 roland@fast.net wrote: > > hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) writes: > > OS: aix3.2.5 > > PINE: client and imapd and imap server are all the latest versions: 3.91 > > > > When I stay in "compose" idle or not idle, editing letter for too long > > imap connection will break!!! Usually 10 minutes is enough to make > > it happen. And I am not the only one who experiences this in our > > environment. Has anybody seen this? Does anybody know why this > > happens? > > I have the same problem running PC-Pine Win through a PPP dialup. After an > extended edit or compose, when I attempt to send, Pine comes back with an > error message "IMAP Connection Went Away". > > Only workaround I've come up with is to let Pine time out until the > "Break connection?" prompt, break the connnection, postpone the message, > then quit and restart Pine. > > Sorry I don't have an answer for you. My service provider is no help, and a > previous post here yielded no suggestions. > > Anyone have any ideas to resolve the connection timeout problem? > > Roland > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 01:30:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16684; Sat, 4 Feb 95 01:30:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13442; Sat, 4 Feb 95 01:25:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13436; Sat, 4 Feb 95 01:25:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ragje-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 01:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: treed@rohan.sdsu.edu (Tracy R. Reed) Subject: procmail problems Date: 1 Feb 1995 20:45:04 GMT Message-Id: <3gorsg$bro@pandora.sdsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Subject: procmail problems! ARGH! Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Summary: Keywords: X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is: "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" And my .procmailrc file is: PATH=/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #you'd better make sure it exists DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox #completely optional LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #recommended :0: * ^From.*treed@rohan.sdsu.edu from_me :0 * ^Subject:.*Flame /dev/null I grabbed this example out of the man pages for procmail. It should put all messages from me into the folder from_me. I am pretty sure the forward is working because mail would not get through before, then I checked the forward man page and got the correct syntax for SunOS. Now I think the problem must be in the .procmailrc file. It isn't sorting anything, just dropping it straight through to the default inbox folder. I have tried tons of combinations and other procmailrc files from the mail filtering faq and procmail docs. None seem to work. :( Any suggestions? -- Tracy Reed Aerospace Engineering San Diego State University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 03:42:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19400; Sat, 4 Feb 95 03:42:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15756; Sat, 4 Feb 95 03:35:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA15750; Sat, 4 Feb 95 03:35:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raik2-00038MC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 03:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: treed@rohan.sdsu.edu (Tracy R. Reed) Subject: procmail problems! ARGH! Message-Id: <1995Feb4.092721.15071@linkoping.trab.se> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 09:27:21 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is: "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" And my .procmailrc file is: PATH=/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #you'd better make sure it exists DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox #completely optional LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #recommended :0: * ^From.*treed@rohan.sdsu.edu from_me :0 * ^Subject:.*Flame /dev/null I grabbed this example out of the man pages for procmail. It should put all messages from me into the folder from_me. I am pretty sure the forward is working because mail would not get through before, then I checked the forward man page and got the correct syntax for SunOS. Now I think the problem must be in the .procmailrc file. It isn't sorting anything, just dropping it straight through to the default inbox folder. I have tried tons of combinations and other procmailrc files from the mail filtering faq and procmail docs. None seem to work. :( Any suggestions? -- Tracy Reed Aerospace Engineering San Diego State University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 06:32:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23010; Sat, 4 Feb 95 06:32:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17195; Sat, 4 Feb 95 06:24:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17189; Sat, 4 Feb 95 06:24:39 -0800 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA10211 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sat, 4 Feb 1995 22:24:17 +0800 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 22:24:17 +0800 (HKT) From: Mr Kevin Yeung To: TT Nguyen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [PICO] Going beyond column 72 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, TT Nguyen wrote: > I need to type lines longer than 72 columns but somehow PICO/PINE keeps > wrapping the lines after, say, 72 columns. Is there anyway to turn off > that feature of auto-wrapping? Or is there anyway to set the right margin > beyond 72 columns? Hi, try "pico -w". Bye. -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 07:36:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24039; Sat, 4 Feb 95 07:36:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17938; Sat, 4 Feb 95 07:31:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA17932; Sat, 4 Feb 95 07:31:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ramOi-00038FC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 07:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Master of Wonder) Subject: Re: several Pine suggestions Message-Id: References: <3g0pds$r9c@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 08:33:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: Sorry, but I agree with Glenn. Having to take my fingers off the home keys is a major reason why I don't use pine unless I'm forced to. - Andy Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: : On 23 Jan 1995, Glenn Leavell wrote: : > 1) In INDEX mode, allow the 'k' and 'j' keys to be used to move the current : > pointer up and down (j key would only function like this if : > jump short cut were turned on). This convention can be : > found in vi, Elm, Gopher, and other utilities, so it makes things : > somewhat consistent. : > : I think this is a dreadful idea. It of course harks back to long dead : terminals which had arrows engraved on those keys, accessed, I think, in : ESCAPE mode. : As someone who teaches Pine, its transparency is a major virtue, and : those places where this breaks down (like the dreadful Y for prYnt) : cause problems; when teaching it is wonderful for A to be Add, C compose : and so on. Previous and Next are enough alternatives to up-arrow and : down-arrow, thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 08:19:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24641; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:19:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18450; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:16:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18444; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:16:03 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03623; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:15:40 +0500 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:15:40 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 774 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Christopher W. Curtis wrote: > According to the documentation I read, the "+" appears when the message > received in in response to a previous message. If someone sends you > an unsolicited message, there'll be no "+"; however, if they hit > (Reply) you'll get the "+". > > Therefore, I`d say PINE looks for a References: line in the header. No, that can't be the problem. Some non-reply messages addressed to me get the "+" flag, others don't. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 08:30:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24817; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:30:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18575; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:27:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18569; Sat, 4 Feb 95 08:27:35 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA03679; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:27:16 +0500 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:27:16 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1734 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > What I believe is happening is that pine simply takes the Left > Hand Side of the address in the To: field and compares it with your account > name. If they match then you will get the "+". That can't be it. I get mail addressed to: Francis Old Francis E. Old Chip Old Francis "Chip" Old The only one that _never_ sets the "+" flag is the one beginning with Francis "Chip" Old. The others sometimes set it, sometimes not. > Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system > call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account > on hobbes. If you send email to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com it will > show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to > Ed.Greshko@cdc.com I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that > it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains. Are you sure you don't have that backwards? Mail addressed to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com forwarded to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com should show up in your Inbox on cdc.com still addressed to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com, so it shouldn't set the "+" flag. Mail addressed directly to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com should show up on cdc.com with the "+" flag. That's how it works for me, at least. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 11:28:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28310; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:28:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21785; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:22:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21779; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:22:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rapzo-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: the mole Subject: Re: procmail problems! ARGH! Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 10:34:23 -0800 Message-Id: References: <1995Feb4.092721.15071@linkoping.trab.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1995Feb4.092721.15071@linkoping.trab.se> Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Tracy R. Reed wrote: > I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to > mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a > SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is: > > "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" You need to have a # in front of your username, otherwise 'treed' is treated like an argument for frocmail (which doesn't exist): "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail #treed" On the system I'm on this syntax works fine: "|IFS=' ' && exec /home/ma/csgrad1/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #treed" hth, tm -- / . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . __ __/ __ __ . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . the mole / / / / . . . . . . . . . . . . markusg@darkwing.uoregon.edu __/ __/ __/ __/ . . . . . . . . http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~markusg/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 11:43:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28682; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:43:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21237; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:40:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21231; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:40:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (corrigan@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id LAA06757; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:39:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199502041939.LAA06757@weber.ucsd.edu> To: treed@rohan.sdsu.edu (Tracy R. Reed) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: procmail problems In-Reply-To: Your message of "01 Feb 1995 20:45:04 +0000." <3gorsg$bro@pandora.sdsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <6753.791926798.1@weber.ucsd.edu> Date: Sat, 04 Feb 1995 11:39:58 -0800 From: "Michael J. Corrigan" Status: O X-Status: The form you have is telling procmail to look for a procmail rcfile with the filename "treed" Try: "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail #treed" > Subject: procmail problems! ARGH! > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Summary: > Keywords: > X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL0] > > I am trying to set up procmail so that I can sort mail according to > mailing list, etc. I am having tons of problems. My machine in a > SPARCserver 10 running SunOS. My .forward file is: > > "|/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin/procmail treed" > > And my .procmailrc file is: > > PATH=/home/ma/csgrad1/treed/bin > MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #you'd better make sure it exists > DEFAULT=$MAILDIR/mbox #completely optional > LOGFILE=$MAILDIR/from #recommended > > :0: > * ^From.*treed@rohan.sdsu.edu > from_me > > :0 > * ^Subject:.*Flame > /dev/null > > I grabbed this example out of the man pages for procmail. It should put > all messages from me into the folder from_me. I am pretty sure the > forward is working because mail would not get through before, then I > checked the forward man page and got the correct syntax for SunOS. Now I > think the problem must be in the .procmailrc file. It isn't sorting > anything, just dropping it straight through to the default inbox folder. > I have tried tons of combinations and other procmailrc files from the > mail filtering faq and procmail docs. None seem to work. :( Any suggestions? > > -- > Tracy Reed > Aerospace Engineering > San Diego State University > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 11:55:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28945; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:55:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21503; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:53:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA21497; Sat, 4 Feb 95 11:53:10 -0800 Received: from [199.218.192.7] (bach.stark.k12.oh.us [199.218.192.7]) by bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us (8.6.9/A/UX 3.1) with SMTP id LAA04279 for ; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:52:58 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 14:53:08 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmb@bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us (Judy Birmingham) Status: O X-Status: I just ftp'd pine3.91, and I see the "build" file will compile pine for ultrix, next, sun, ptx, and a32, but no mention of AUX. Is anyone running pine on A/UX 3.0 or later? In contrib/aux.port I found aux.diff, and the README says: This is a first cut at a port of Pine to A/UX 3.0 by Marcelo Gallardo . This port arrived too late to be merged into the Pine 3.85 release, but is expected to be included in a future release. Does anyone know if these changes were included in pine 3.91? If not, can anyone tell me how to use aux.diff? Judy ----- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Judith M. Birmingham Information Specialist Stark County District Schools Canton, Ohio, USA Internet: jmb@bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The most effective kind of education is that a child play among lovely things." -- Plato ( ~400 B.C.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 13:02:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00385; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:02:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23120; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:58:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23114; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:58:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rarV6-00038LC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rheinhardt Subject: Re: Untitled Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:30:35 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Yep. Just use Alt+three-digit-number. E-mail me for details. On 1 Feb 1995, Marc Blanchard wrote: > how do you enter foreign language characters into pine? anyone out there > knows? meb > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 13:02:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00414; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:02:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22333; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:58:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22327; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:58:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rarV3-00038KC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 12:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rheinhardt Subject: How do I save Pinemail to a text file? Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:25:08 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive? Please e-mail. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 13:20:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00771; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:20:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22618; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:18:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22612; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:18:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raroj-00038JC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdulaney@crl.com (John Dulaney) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 3 Feb 1995 15:42:41 GMT Message-Id: <3gtith$8dt@nntp.crl.com> References: <3gr9fo$gtd@fohnix.metronet.com> Status: O X-Status: Well...if only some awk genius could help me out here. I know nothing about computer languages etc. Much appreciated! Best, John From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 13:50:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01335; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:50:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23733; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:48:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23727; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:48:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rasFa-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bcorbett@crl.com (Bob Corbett) Subject: Help: Can't cut and paste in Pine Date: 3 Feb 1995 11:50:15 -0800 Message-Id: <3gu1dn$seh@crl6.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: [ Article crossposted from crl.general ] [ Author was Bob Corbett ] [ Posted on 3 Feb 1995 09:40:25 -0800 ] I have having a frustrating problem inPine. If I have two message that come in and I want to edit them into one message, I try to forward the first one to myself, then cut some stuff out. I then forward the second message to myself and try to paste the first message into the second. NOthing happens. Control ^ works just find. Control K cuts just as it's supposed. Control U will repaste INSIDE any message, but will not repaste into a new message. Somewhere I read that perhaps esc esc U would do it. NOpe. Is it impossible to cut and paste from message to message or am I doing something wrong? Please help. Thanks, Bob Corbett From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 14:03:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01629; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:03:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23154; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:00:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23148; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:00:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rasQO-00038JC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 13:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: How do I save Pinemail to a text file? Date: 4 Feb 1995 21:32:50 GMT Message-Id: <3h0rq2$726@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Rheinhardt with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Sat, 4 Feb 1995 11:25:08 -0500: + I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive? This is currently not avail. however what i would do is (E)xport the mail to $HOME and then download it from there to local machine either by using 'ftp' if you are on ethernet or if you are dialing in, then any serial xfer protocol aware s/w like kermit, sz, procomm or something similar. Hope this helps. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 14:11:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01933; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:11:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24048; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:08:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24042; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:08:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rasah-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: 4 Feb 1995 21:43:36 GMT Message-Id: <3h0se8$726@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Brad with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Thu, 2 Feb 1995 22:41:05 +0000: + But what about when you want to reply to a mail from a mailing + list but reply only to the sender (not to the entire list)?... Keeping up with this thread, here's a situation i usually encounter. A user sends an e-mail to a person, Cc's to the mailing list and then sets the Reply-To to go to the list. So when i reply, it prompts me first for do you want to use Reply To: instead of From, I say yes and now since the original poster had Cc'd to the list it prompts me again for Do you want to reply to all the recipients. I'm using the Reply-To: so the reply will go to the list, so it includes every one so where is the question of 'all reciepients' unless ofcourse if the original poster had Cc'd to someone else who is not on the list. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 14:47:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02603; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:47:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23782; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:43:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23774; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:43:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rat9M-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 14:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: daniel@eel.ufl.edu (Daniel C. Wang) Subject: How to setup pine on Linux Date: 4 Feb 1995 17:41:39 GMT Message-Id: <3h0e8j$bum@huron.eel.ufl.edu> Status: O X-Status: Dear helpers, I got the source code of pine. I tried to build it on the linux machine. But there is no linux platform available. The readme file indicate /doc/pine_pro file doesn't exit in my directory. Is there any one can give me some help? Could you e-mail me to "dan@li.ee.ufl.edu" Thank you very much! Dan Feb 4 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 15:15:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03158; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:15:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24870; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:13:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24864; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:13:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rate1-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: freimuts@acs.ryerson.ca (Roberts Freimuts) Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: 4 Feb 1995 19:12:07 GMT Message-Id: <3h0ji7$19po@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca> References: Status: O X-Status: : Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to : Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to : reply anywhere else. The "Reply to:" usually means that you have received the email from a mailing list. The choice is do you wish to reply to everyone on the mailing list or only the author. Pine gives you the choice. If your email continues the discussion everyone is interewsted. However you also have the choice of sending something to the author only. : I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am : asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". Yes, such a config option would be good. Roberts Freimuts From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 15:41:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03863; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:41:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24528; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:38:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24522; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:38:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rau0J-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 15:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: US-ASCII/ISO-8859-x Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:55:30 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This may be a silly idea, but I reckon it would be nice to be able to set the character set independently for composing messages and for viewing them. I say this because a few people in the US have been complaining at me for accidentally hitting Shift-3 when I should have used the 'proper' hash key, thus getting =20's and all those other things scattered throughout my mail. But! when viewing messages, it would be nice to be able to set the character set to ISO-8859-1, as I can view these character sets (plus I wouldn't get that message about some characters maybe being displayed incorrectly). Just my Thought For The Day. :) ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 16:36:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05024; Sat, 4 Feb 95 16:36:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26027; Sat, 4 Feb 95 16:33:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26021; Sat, 4 Feb 95 16:33:19 -0800 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA01475; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:34:45 +0100 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:34:44 +0100 (MET) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: POP in Pine 3.91? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello PINErs -- I just compiled PINE3.91 on a DEC Alpha 3300 running OSF. I thought I had read/heard somewhere that 3.91 could also be used as a POP mail server. I do already have pop3d on this same alpha. Is it true? If so, what needs to be done? Thanks! Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 18:41:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07469; Sat, 4 Feb 95 18:41:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27525; Sat, 4 Feb 95 18:38:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27517; Sat, 4 Feb 95 18:38:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rawm6-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 18:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: freimuts@acs.ryerson.ca (Roberts Freimuts) Subject: Foreign character PINE filters?? Date: 4 Feb 1995 20:43:24 GMT Message-Id: <3h0otc$1d1c@hermes.acs.ryerson.ca> Status: O X-Status: There are many languages in the world with which people communicate. The ASCII symbols available to PINE do not include all the characters needed for most languages that are not English. There are conversion filters that will allow the messages to be converted to the available ASCII characters for sending and receiving but allowing writing and reading to be done in the desired language. I am hoping to hear about anyones experiences using such filters/converters, especially anyone who has tried or succeeded in attaching them to PINE so that the process is automatic. (That is to say not requiring; write the text, convert it, send it, receive it, export to a file, read it). The language I am using is Latvian but the principles should be the same for any non English language. Thank you Roberts Freimuts From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 19:30:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08334; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:30:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28090; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:27:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from edison.eng.auburn.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28084; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:27:31 -0800 Received: from strangelove.eng.auburn.edu.eng.auburn.edu (20663@strangelove.eng.auburn.edu [131.204.110.12]) by edison.eng.auburn.edu (8.6.9/8.6.4) with SMTP id VAA14604; Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:27:08 -0600 Received: by strangelove.eng.auburn.edu.eng.auburn.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA16613; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:26:37 CST Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 21:26:37 -0600 (CST) From: Doug Hughes To: "Tracy R. Reed" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: procmail problems! ARGH! In-Reply-To: <1995Feb4.092721.15071@linkoping.trab.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: problems with procmail deleted We have replaced the local delivery agent (binmail) with procmail as described in the Install instructions on the same type machine running same OS and it works flawlessly (with sendmail8.6.9). Perhaps not what you wanted to hear, just letting you know that it does work. ____________________________________________________________________________ Doug Hughes Engineering Network Services System/Net Admin Auburn University doug@eng.auburn.edu "Real programmers use cat > file.as" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 19:44:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08652; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:44:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27418; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:40:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27412; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:40:35 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 5 Feb 95 11:40:19 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 11:40:19 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Chip Old Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Chip Old wrote: > On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > > > What I believe is happening is that pine simply takes the Left > > Hand Side of the address in the To: field and compares it with your account > > name. If they match then you will get the "+". > > That can't be it. I get mail addressed to: > > Francis Old > Francis E. Old > Chip Old > Francis "Chip" Old > > > The only one that _never_ sets the "+" flag is the one beginning with > Francis "Chip" Old. The others sometimes set it, sometimes not. When I speak of the email address I speak of that within the seperators < and >. The LHS is to the left of "@" the RHS is to the right of "@". In all of the case you mention above, they are all equal. > > Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system > > call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account > > on hobbes. If you send email to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com it will > > show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to > > Ed.Greshko@cdc.com I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that > > it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains. > > Are you sure you don't have that backwards? Mail addressed to > egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com forwarded to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com should show > up in your Inbox on cdc.com still addressed to > egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com, so it shouldn't set the "+" flag. Mail > addressed directly to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com should show up on cdc.com with > the "+" flag. I didn't say that the mail was address as egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com and then forwarded to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com. I'm telling you that my email address is also Ed.Greshko@cdc.com and I can be addressed directly in that fashion. Thru the magic of X.500 directory services the email will be delivered just fine. I'm telling you the mail showing up in my mailbox address to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com will *not* have the "+" set...but mail address to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com or egreshko@hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com or even egreshko@twntpe.cdc.com will arrive with the "+". When dealing with email systems, don't forget that what is on the headers may not be what is on the envelope. Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 19:46:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08693; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:46:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27480; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:43:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA27474; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:43:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raxqp-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 19:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Help: Can't cut and paste in Pine Date: 4 Feb 1995 21:28:08 GMT Message-Id: <3h0rh8$726@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Bob Corbett with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 3 Feb 1995 11:50:15 -0800: + Is it impossible to cut and paste from message to message or am + I doing something wrong? This feature currently is not avail. However what I would do is (E)xport the first mail into $HOME and then read that file in while responding to the second. Hope this helps. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 21:06:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10098; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:06:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29336; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:03:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29330; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:03:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0raz6U-00038CC; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: pine addressbook tab stops all awry Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 22:29:17 GMT Status: O X-Status: Re- posted from netcom.mail (netcom netnews rulus don't permit crossposting.... ) Newsgroups: netcom.mail References: Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) Distribution: netcom Walter Alter (walter@netcom.com) asked: : i tried to manually edit the pine .addressbook with pico but found out : that it doesn't work that way. when i switched back to my saved original : .addressbook it displayed my entries across the entire screen with the : addresses running off the screen to the right. it appears that pine is : interpolating extra tab stops in the display although the .addressbook : file appears normal. i then resaved the .adressbook under a different name : and deleted both it and the .addressbook.lu so that pine could start : over. starting with a virgin .addressbook and entering a sampling of my : email recipients, pine still displays its columns spread across the : screen. anyone have an idea on this? : thanks : walter From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 21:58:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10890; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:58:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29061; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:53:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29055; Sat, 4 Feb 95 21:53:56 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:50 EST From: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu (Vince Chan) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine.conf Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine In-Reply-To: <3gv00b$vm1@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu> Organization: Yale University (dormitory system) Cc: Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone, I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x. Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib. Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance! Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 4 23:36:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12550; Sat, 4 Feb 95 23:36:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00422; Sat, 4 Feb 95 23:34:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00416; Sat, 4 Feb 95 23:34:01 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07042; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 02:33:31 +0500 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 02:33:31 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Wyse60 Support In-Reply-To: <3g3o90$lt9@garlic.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1185 Status: O X-Status: On 24 Jan 1995, Robert Mann Packaging Co. wrote: > Ok ... I finally got pine, and I've been playing around with it, and I > suddenly realize that the cursor keys on our Wyse60 terminals are not > working inside Pine ... > > It looks like the cursor keys send ^K, ^J, ^H, and ^L, which Pine uses > for other purposes. Is there a way to remap these keys inside Pine, or > do I initialize the terminal to a different type going in??? Could've sworn I read this and replied several days ago. Do we have a dup loop going? We had the same problem here. Based on what youre getting from your cursor keys, it sounds like your Wyse terminals are set for Wyse 50+ terminal emulation. Pine will work better for you if you reset them to vt100 emulation. It's easy enough to do, but youi need to switch back after your Pine session if you need Wyse emulation for other functions. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 5 00:21:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13656; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:21:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00893; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:11:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA00886; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:11:24 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07081; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 03:11:06 +0500 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 03:11:05 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: Pine Discussion Group Subject: Re: Help with Pine using a Mac Plus In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 932 Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Michael A. Naud wrote: > I have a user who dials into our system and uses a Mac Plus (hold the > laughter, please). There is no control key on that keyboard. I know that > you can use the ESC ESC key for a replacement, but he doesn't even have > one of those. I can't put Pine in function key mode, again, no function > keys. Does anyone have an idea on what he could do? I'm not sure what > terminal emulator he uses. Most current Mac telecomm software has an option to set some other key (usually the Command or Option key) to act as the Control key on older Macs that don't have real Control keys. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 5 00:38:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13980; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:38:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01107; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:32:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01101; Sun, 5 Feb 95 00:32:00 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA07121; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 03:31:41 +0500 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 03:31:40 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pico: delete a block, paragraph etc..???? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2018 Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, David Swanger wrote: > : Place the cursor at the start of the block of text and press > : Control-^(Control-6 on the IBM keyboard). Then move the cursor to the > : end of the block and press Control-K to cut the block of selected text. > > This works fine if I use pine directly on a Sun workstation (in an xterm > window) or if I telnet to the Sun from a PC clone running various PC > communications programs. *HOWEVER*, when I telnet to the Sun from a > Macintosh using NCSA telnet, emulating either a vt100 or a vt220 terminal, > when I try to enter Control-^, all that shows up on my screen is a "6". > That's right, no "[ Mark Set ]". I've also seen this with some different > Mac comm programs when dialing in with a modem and received the same > result. > > My guess is this is a problem with terminal emulation and really isn't > Pine's fault, but I am curious if anyone has seen this and has a > work-around? Yes, it's a terminal emulation problem. Some telecomm softare, regardless of platform, just doesn't emulate vt100 or vt102 as completely as it should. If a normal control character doesn't work for you, substitute two escapes for the control key. In other words, instead of Control-^, use Esc Esc ^. For what it's worth, the best vt102 emulation currently available in Mac telecomm software is provided by Microphone Pro. It's pretty pricey, but you can do almost anything with it. VersaTerm Pro is also supposed to be very good, but Ive never used it. If money is a problem, I recommend the $30 shareware Zterm (although it doesn't handle vt100/102 print commands properly, so Pine's "y" print command prints to screen instead of to the local printer). -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 5 12:21:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26967; Sun, 5 Feb 95 12:21:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09365; Sun, 5 Feb 95 12:16:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cs.sfsu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA09359; Sun, 5 Feb 95 12:16:51 -0800 Received: (from uusavik@localhost) by cs.sfsu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id MAA09200 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:13:18 -0800 Received: by savik.UUCP (NX5.67d/NeXT-3.0.a) id AA03322; Mon, 30 Jan 95 17:12:41 -0800 Date: Mon, 30 Jan 95 17:12:41 -0800 From: savik!jenniwoo@apple.com (Jennifer Woodward) Message-Id: <9501310112.AA03322@savik.UUCP> Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.95) Received: by NeXT Mailer (1.95) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine & pico info Status: O X-Status: I'm really looing for pico source, or binaries, for NeXT. Jennifer Woodward jenniwoo@futon.sfsu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 5 15:14:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00627; Sun, 5 Feb 95 15:14:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11520; Sun, 5 Feb 95 15:11:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA11514; Sun, 5 Feb 95 15:11:16 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 18:07:48 +0000 From: Vince Chan Subject: pine.conf To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone, I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x. Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib. Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance! Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 5 17:57:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03437; Sun, 5 Feb 95 17:57:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13625; Sun, 5 Feb 95 17:54:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.fast.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA13619; Sun, 5 Feb 95 17:54:05 -0800 Received: from roland.fast.net by fast.net with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #13) id m0rbIfC-0002hSC; Sun, 5 Feb 95 20:54 EST Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 20:48:05 +0500 (EST) From: Roland Zuk To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: broken imap connection; editing too long X-Sender: roland@ns.fast.net In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 3 Feb 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > Are either of you using an alternate-editor? > > When an alternate editor is active, Pine is asleep and unable to "ping" > the IMAP server to prevent the server timeout. This is a problem, but so > far we don't have a good solution for it. > > I have the same problem running PC-Pine Win through a PPP dialup. After an > > extended edit or compose, when I attempt to send, Pine comes back with an > > error message "IMAP Connection Went Away". Hi Terry, thanks for the response. No altenate editor. I'm using the built-in. Any other suggestions? Roland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 00:47:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12058; Mon, 6 Feb 95 00:47:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18694; Mon, 6 Feb 95 00:42:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA18688; Mon, 6 Feb 95 00:42:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbOy2-00038MC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 00:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Incoming Folders List Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 23:21:34 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to get the Incoming Folders list to show just the folder names (not the full pathnames)? i.e. a bit more tidily than: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Incoming Message Folders ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- inbox /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet Thanks for any help you can give! ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 01:48:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13596; Mon, 6 Feb 95 01:48:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20772; Mon, 6 Feb 95 01:44:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA20766; Mon, 6 Feb 95 01:43:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbPvA-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 01:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikew@unicorn.it.wsu.edu (michael wallendahl) Subject: Re: Qmodem and "attached-to-ansi" Printing Problem Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 05:55:29 GMT Status: O X-Status: Eric Force (eforce@acy1.digex.net) wrote: : I'm trying to resolve a printing problem for a friend using : Qmodem V4.5 as his PC communications software. It appears : that Qmodem does not understand the ansi escape sequences : for printing which are sent by PINE when invoking the "Y" : (attached-to-ansi print) function. I may be wrong, but I think that the "print-to-attched-printer" only works under vt100 style emulation. I use TeleMate myself, and it works perfectly when I use VT-102 emulation. Just hit "Y" and out comes my e-mail on my dot matrix. :) Good luck. -- ----- Mike Wallendahl | KC7FUM 145.470 - mikew@wsu.edu | http://scs411.csc.wsu.edu/HomePages/mwallend Washington State University | Pullman, WA | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 05:35:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19509; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:35:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22327; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:19:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22321; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:19:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbTIZ-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Force Subject: Re: How do I save Pinemail to a text file? Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 21:18:20 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Probably the two most common ways ways are: 1> To save the message WITH header infomation use the xport command. 2> To save the message WITHOUT header info use iew attachment then ave. An abbreviated description of the most useful commands can be viewed by pressing the ? (HELP) while viewing a message. Eric ====================================================================== | Have a Great Day! | Challenging Crossword Puzzles via Email | | Eric Force | New Puzzle Daily. For Information: | | eforce@acy.digex.net | --> finger xword@acy.digex.net <-- | ====================================================================== On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Rheinhardt wrote: > I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive? Please > e-mail. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 05:59:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19895; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:59:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23946; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:44:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23940; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:44:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbTiO-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nizar@najah.edu (Nizar Awartani) Subject: help Date: 6 Feb 1995 06:34:47 -0600 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: In repling to some one by mail, the pine program does not include the message. Can any one help? Please: Reply by E-mail. Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Dr. Nizar M. Awartani Department Of Computer Science An-Najah University l l Nablus West Bank . l.. _ _ l .. Tel. 972-9-383266 _l l__l l_l___l_ l __l l____l ____l ____l ____l _____l .. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 06:00:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19927; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:00:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22684; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:49:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA22678; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:49:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbTiz-00038FC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 05:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 18:29:23 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 3 Feb 1995, Dan Schlitt wrote: > Nntp has a well defined protocol > specified in an RFC. To complicate this, there are proposed extensions > and refinements which are not yet in the form of an RFC. Unfortunately, these two statements conflict with each other. You can not build a proper functional NNTP client or server using the specification in RFC-977. Consider the following differences from RFC-977: 1) You are supposed to use LIST ACTIVE to get the list of active newsgroups. RFC-977 only defines LIST with no argument; there are reports of NNTP servers which reject this. 2) The only way to find out which message numbers are valid in a sequence is by the LISTGROUP command (absent in RFC-977) or, failing that, by the "XHDR Date" command (also absent in RFC-977). RFC-977 requires you to have holes in your browser -- something that *infuriated* users of earlier versions of Pine who tried to use the news support. 3) Many NNTP servers do not permit posting without your having first given the AUTHINFO USER and AUTHINFO PASS commands (absent in RFC-977). [I wonder if the paranoid site administrators who worry about people posting forged news messages realize that this "fix" broadcasts passwords in the clear over the net!]. Pine does not implement this yet, and we're getting beaten up about it. 4) Many NNTP clients have been changed to take advantage of the XOVER command (absent in RFC-977), which permits fetching of sufficient information of a message to build a browser line; and what's more, permits it over a range of messages. Pine does not implement this yes, and we're getting beaten up about it. Right now, Pine laboriously fetches the headers for each message, one at a time, and does an RFC-822 parse to build the browser line. This is slow. 5) NNTP is conspicuously the *only* protocol that lacks a no-op command. Fortunately, unlike POP2, unknown command errors do not cause the connection to die, so a client can issue a NOOP command and ignore any error in the server's response. The only rational conclusion that one must make is that there is no such thing as a standard NNTP protocol. Rather, each client and server implementor is on his own to build something that more or less interoperates with the maximal number of other implementation. Yes, this is a lousy circumstance. But this is the condition that NNTP is in. It is not possible to develop a viable NNTP implementation using the published specification. Given that other NNTP server and client implementors have had no problem with the concept of making undocumented commands mandatory, I see no inconsistancy in doing the same thing in Pine. More importantly, however, is the fact that there was no choice. It wasn't just that people were beating up on us about the lack of NNTP server pinging -- we were being screwed by it ourselves! > But Rich Salz > is one of the folks deeply involved in this revision. Unfortunately, nothing has come out of Salz's efforts. Even worse, it seems that the NNTP community seems to have fractured, and there is no guarantee that anything Salz eventually produces will be accepted. Which is a shame, since in general Salz seems to have the right ideas. Consider the recent debate about the function of the Newsgroups: header line, and the emergence of cretins who insist that headers must be interpreted in a context-sensitive fashion between news/mail. I don't think there is any hope of seeing a viable NNTP standard specification until this matter is resolved (and there is little hope of the result being accepted if the cretins win). > So the question is > whether the NOOP is a part of the protocol (or is likely to be in the > extensions). If the answer is no then Pine should not generate the NOOPs. As I pointed out earlier, the NOOPs are harmless. Or rather, they should be. NOOP is an unknown command in a strict interpretation of RFC-977. The specification is quite clear about the treatment of unknown commands. So, in that regard, NOOP -- or rather, the correct server behavior to a NOOP command -- is part of the protocol. I am sorry about the log file garbage that some server maintainers have as a result. However, part of the process of gathering logging information is identifying what information is significant, and filtering out the unimportant information. Logs with excessive noise are just as bad as inadequate logs. More importantly, stating that "NOOP log events are filling up my disk" is an open broadcast to all crackers about how to commence a denial of service attack on your system. The security implications are worse than just denial of service to users. A cracker could cause denial of service to security logging mechanisms. Just send a few hundred thousand bogus commands at the NNTP server until the disk fills, then crack away without fear of having evidence against you being logged. Furthermore, it is fairly common in older Internet protocols for clients to probe for server capabilities by attempting commands which the server may or may not know. Newer Internet protocols provide a capability listing mechanism which allegedly makes this unnecessary (and, as I expected, we're already seeing skews between advertised capabilities and implemented ones). The bottom line is that client behavior (especially non-authenticated clients such as NNTP clients) that causes excessive resource consumption on a server identifies a server problem, not a client problem. I'm confident that if I changed the NOOP to a HELP (which is in RFC-977), I'll get complaints from server maintainers of their logs being filled up with help texts. [I know, because that's what I used to do.] > This is as broader issue than just nntp. In other areas the pine crew > make quite a point of following the standards and reject lots of > suggestions on that basis. In this I believe they are correct. In the case of NNTP, there simply is no standard that one can use to develop a viable implementation. There are *no* NNTP implementations which conform strictly to RFC-977. NNTP sticks out like a sore thumb in this regard. > The second issue is whether client designers know in the abstract what > timeout behaviour should be better than the folks who are running the > servers. I tend to think that the server operators know better in the > specific cases and should adjust the timeouts if there are serious problems. The Pine team has historically come rather firmly on the side of the client controlling all aspects of the user interface. How long you are permitted to be idle is an aspect of the user interface. Judging from the number of vehement complaints in this newsgroup from people who have had IMAP connections dropped due to a failure in Pine's timeout suppression mechanism (and yes, we *are* working to nail these!), it seems that the user community is on Pine's side on this issue. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 06:19:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20351; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:19:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24303; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:14:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24297; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:14:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbUBj-00038OC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Clif Daniel Subject: Pine for Windows Compiled as a Callable DLL Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 16:43:49 GMT Status: O X-Status: PCPine for Windows would be a perfect add-on for my Windows bases host. The host software is 100% Windows and has the ablity to make calls to DLL files. The host software can already import QWK and make a mail/news run using WINNETs' Terminal application, then it does a conversion and auto- matically imports the e-mail/newsgroups into the forums-messagebases, that's pretty cool, but I think a PCPine-Win DLL would be great. There is a frame work of sample source code to build on. It's available in TPascal and C. I like using PCPine-Win and Unix and would like to allow my dial-up users to also use it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 06:43:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20853; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:43:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23333; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:37:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA23327; Mon, 6 Feb 95 06:37:10 -0800 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA26354; Mon, 6 Feb 95 09:37:06 EST Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:37:00 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Schlitt To: Mark Crispin Cc: Pine List Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Mark, You have made things a bit clearer. Please note that I was not among those that complaines about what ends up in log files. I know how to manage my logfiles so that isn't a problem. I do like to understand things that show up there. I knew that the revisions of the nntp protocol document was long delayed. I did not realize that things had deteriorated to the state that you describe. The reason that I mentioned Salz at all was that the complaint seemed to be one about the interoperation of Pine and INN. I expect INN to reflect his thinking and that of the others who I knew were working on the revision of the protocol. I don't have a lot of sympathy with those folks who go out to write the world's latest and greatest news reader and do it without regard to interoperability and protocol considerations. (And I don't include the Pine team in that group, so don't take this as a criticism of your work.) I guess that I would come down on the side of using HELP instead of NOOP provided using it would not generate unexpected output for the client to deal with. But it is a matter of taste. It may be that a large part of the problem is that the transport and reading are contained in the same protocol. Separating the two might get us standards for both sooner. On the matter of the timeout, I just disagree about who is best to judge. The server is in the best position to manage the use of its resources. one should not undermine that management by non-standard behaviour of the client. Perhaps the protocol should allow the negotiation of the timeout between client and server (back to the subject of point one). In the case where the client and server are under the same administrative control you should be able to deal with this problem by modifying the server. That ought to be the case at U. of Wn. where your most important user base is. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 08:24:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24056; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:24:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24988; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:09:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA24982; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:09:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbVvr-00038JC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu (Vince Chan) Subject: pine.conf Date: 3 Feb 1995 23:32:11 -0500 Message-Id: <3gv00b$vm1@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone, I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x. Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib. Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance! Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 08:47:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25127; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:47:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26837; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:39:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA26826; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:39:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbWRw-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 08:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nick Boris Subject: PORTS: X, NeXT, FreeBSD Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 20:36:01 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: HI, I know most of these exist out there but I am wondering where the locations are. I have heard of PINE for X (Specifically for Solaris 2.3) as well as NeXT (intel hardware) and am wondering if that was idle chatter or if they exist. If they do exist might someone point me in the right direction to locate them. Too: Part of this is attempting to have a consistant program distribution over our netowrk (heaven knows that the OS's and boxes aren't). I have PC-Pine setup all over the place and standard pine humming along in the terminal windows of the Suns and NeXT. What I don't have is Pine working for the command-line impared or our two FreeBSD 2.0 training boxes. (I haven't managed to sucessfully compile it) So, if anyone can pass along any pointers for FreeBSD compilation or locals of roden-based pines I would greatly appreciate it! -Nick nmboris@purelogic.com --- Pure Logic Computers, NYC nmboris@artsci.wustl.edu --- Washington University in St. Louis http://www.artsci.wustl.edu/~nmboris/ White Noise As ever, the opinions expressed are not those of my employer, though they should be. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 10:20:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29879; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:20:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28216; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:14:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA28210; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:14:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbXvT-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 6 Feb 95 17:17:34 GMT Message-Id: References: <3gogkh$nvm@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: jdulaney@crl.com (John Dulaney) writes: > I can't export to a w/p as the crs are all wrong and can't find >any editor that will alphabetize the lines...I hope there is one. > Thanks for all help! Best, John Decent full-function editors for UNIX (I only use jove, Emacs, and jed) allow you to mark a region and send it to a UNIX filter, in this case sort. Read the manpage for your editor and for sort. I believe joe and vi also allow piping a region to an external command. Basically if you can imagine a text tranformation, the basic tools of UNIX can accomplish it. Get a good intro book to UNIX. >* World Wide Wedb HOME PAGE http://xmission.com/~wwwads/mind/logic.html >* Catalog E-mailed catalog as text, zipped, UUEncoded. Catalog & More at >* ftp site xmission.com /pub/users/wwwads/logic.zip >* WORLDWIDE SHIPPING-VISA/MasterCard/American Express - Wholesale/Retail >* E-mail for catalog and more: jdulaney@crl.com - A nice guy in Calif. >* WIN $500 (Canad.) vote 4 UR favorate NET STOREFRONT! E-mail 4 details >* Plug for friend:Blind or seeing impaired? Ask for a free Scatalog.exe -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 10:46:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01442; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:46:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29661; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:40:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29655; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:39:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbYGl-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 6 Feb 95 17:24:00 GMT Message-Id: References: <3gr9fo$gtd@fohnix.metronet.com> <3gtith$8dt@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: jdulaney@crl.com (John Dulaney) writes: > Well...if only some awk genius could help me out here. > I know nothing about computer languages etc. > Much appreciated! > Best, John The problem is a classic one of not having a normalized datafile. On UNIX you could at least give some consideration to treating this as a bibliography and using the bib tools. To see addbib and his friends, 'man -k bib' People have given you some pointers. Go check out the books on awk and perl from your library. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 10:48:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01575; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:48:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29685; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:40:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA29679; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:40:27 -0800 Received: from verpower.ver.itesm.mx by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07949; Mon, 6 Feb 95 10:40:19 -0800 From: al392328@verpower.ver.itesm.mx Received: by verpower.ver.itesm.mx (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA20697; Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:34:49 -0600 Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:34:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: Question? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I am from Mexico and I am trying to write to a friend in Bloomsburg, PA. Her address is lallyjone@aol.com But everytime I get a massage from the computer "Host Unknown". Can somebody help me???? T H A N K Y O U, Mauricio Vargas. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 11:52:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05653; Mon, 6 Feb 95 11:52:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01322; Mon, 6 Feb 95 11:44:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [141.206.10.110] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01316; Mon, 6 Feb 95 11:43:59 -0800 Received: from hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM (hostsw7.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM) by mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA26570; Mon, 6 Feb 95 11:43:13 PST Date: Mon, 6 Feb 95 11:43:13 PST From: Steven Feinholz Message-Id: <9502061943.AA26570@mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Unix INBOX Status: O X-Status: On Unix, the receiving system mailbox is located at /var/spool/mail/ and Unix Pine calls this folder INBOX. On Unix (or maybe specific to Sun workstation's 'mailtool'), there is a default mailbox called 'inbox' which is a local folder in which to move the email. Within Pine, every mail folder is case-sensitive except for the INBOX folder. This makes it impossible to move my email from the system folder to my local 'inbox' folder. For clarification: at work I use Sun workstations which use the X-Window 'mailtool'. When I work from home using the PC to dial in, I use Pine. Is there any way that Pine can switch from a case-insensitive INBOX to something else (maybe even something that the user can set in the configuration file)? ________________________________________________________________________ ==== AT&T | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 =--=== Global | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 =--=== Information | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 ==== Solutions | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | sf3@ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.com ________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 12:44:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08325; Mon, 6 Feb 95 12:44:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01954; Mon, 6 Feb 95 12:38:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA01942; Mon, 6 Feb 95 12:38:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rba9g-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 12:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Rollins Subject: Subdirectories With Pine? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:12:18 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to configure Pine so that I am able to use subdirectories within either my mail or "Subscribed-Groups" directories? What I would like to do, is to configure my newsgroups directory so that I can have all of the groups which are related to a given topic in a separate subdirectory. Also, I would like to set up my mail directory so that I have one or two separate subdirectories for people with whom I regularly exchange E-Mail, so that I can keep each of them as a separate folder without cluttering up my primary mail directory with folders. Also, I am learning that it may be useful to have a separate "Lists" folder for storing mail from the various mailing lists that I am on. Is anything like this possible? Mike Rollins mr@world.std.com mjr@conan.ids.net Speaking only for myself. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 14:40:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13884; Mon, 6 Feb 95 14:40:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04949; Mon, 6 Feb 95 14:36:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.31 ) id AA04943; Mon, 6 Feb 95 14:36:20 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08842; Mon, 6 Feb 95 14:36:07 -0800 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:36:03 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Brad Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Incoming Folders List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Each folder in the list may have an optional nickname in front of it, and if it exists, that nickname will be used in the display. The nickname is separated from the rest of the name by a space. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Sun, 5 Feb 1995, Brad wrote: > Is there any way to get the Incoming Folders list to show just the > folder names (not the full pathnames)? i.e. a bit more tidily than: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Incoming Message Folders > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > inbox /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth > /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp > /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet > > Thanks for any help you can give! > > ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! > / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk > \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk > <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 17:44:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24378; Mon, 6 Feb 95 17:44:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09838; Mon, 6 Feb 95 17:39:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from motgate.mot.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09832; Mon, 6 Feb 95 17:39:51 -0800 Received: from pobox.mot.com by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1 for ) id AA16216; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:39:49 -0600 Received: from po_box.cig.mot.com by pobox.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1 for ) id AA02338; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:39:48 -0600 Received: from wildebeest.cig.mot.com (wildebeest.cig.mot.com [136.182.8.145]) by po_box.cig.mot.com (8.6.9/SCERG-RELAY-1.11) with ESMTP id UAA19629 for ; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 20:40:28 -0500 Received: (ellis@localhost) by wildebeest.cig.mot.com (8.6.9/SCERG-1.12B) id TAA09057; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 19:39:45 -0600 Message-Id: <199502070139.TAA09057@wildebeest.cig.mot.com> To: ellis@cig.mot.com From: Ted Stern Subject: comp.mail.pine - [Q] addressbook conversion tools Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 11:51:43 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Nntp-Posting-Host: crystal.amath.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Status: O X-Status: These questions *weren't* in the FAQ! Does anyone have any nice sed, awk or perl scripts to convert .addressbook format *TO* Berkeley .mailrc alias format? This is so my automated mailing can use my pine addresses. Also, does anyone have scripts for converting mh mailing aliases to pine .addressbook format? I asked this on just the newsgroup but got no reply. TIA, -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 20:40:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29798; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:40:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12826; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:36:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12820; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:36:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbhcR-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pine.conf Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:46:45 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3gv00b$vm1@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: After running Pine, take a look at the .pine-debug1 file to see if it mamaged to read the pine.conf file and what it found there... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Feb 1995, Vince Chan wrote: > Date: 4 FEB 1995 21:57:33 -0800 > From: Vince Chan > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: pine.conf > > Hi everyone, > > I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x. > Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system > defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf > it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib. > Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance! > > > Cheers, > Vince > E-mail: > vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. > root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA > _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ > | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | > | leap of the 21st Century. | > \_________________________________________________________________/ > uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering > Los Angeles, California USA > > GUS Digest Adminstrator > Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology > > System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 20:53:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00233; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:53:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13386; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:49:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13379; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:49:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbhs8-00038FC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 20:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Soergel Subject: Missing Newsreader Features (?) Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 13:54:17 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello... if anybody knows how to do the following, please tell me; otherwise these are suggestions for the next version. 1. The folder list should display the number of messages in a newsgroup (so I don't have to enter the newsgroup only to discover it empty!). Alternatively one might turn off display of empty groups. 2. It should be possible to set up a hierarchy of folders so I can sort newsgroups by subject. (STRN does this... maybe rn and trn too?) 3. Undelete newsgroup messages. Thanks for any help, or for taking suggestions! (There are Pine programmers watching this group, right?) -David P.S. I'm using Unix Pine 3.91. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 21:07:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00614; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:07:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13241; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:04:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13235; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:04:18 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 00:00:47 +0000 From: Vince Chan Subject: Re: pine.conf To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, David L Miller wrote: Hi David, I just ran pine as both a regular user and a root user but I don't see a .pine-debug1 in my home directory after running pine. Any ideas? Thanks for the help. Cheers, Vince E-mail: vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | | leap of the 21st Century. | \_________________________________________________________________/ uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering Los Angeles, California USA GUS Digest Adminstrator Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU > > After running Pine, take a look at the .pine-debug1 file to see if it mamaged > to read the pine.conf file and what it found there... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On 4 Feb 1995, Vince Chan wrote: > > > Date: 4 FEB 1995 21:57:33 -0800 > > From: Vince Chan > > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > > Subject: pine.conf > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I recently compiled and intsalled pine 3.91 under FreeBSD un*x. > > Anyways, where is the pine.conf file supposed to be for the system > > defaults? I have mines in /usr/local/lib but when I do pine -conf > > it is showing a different configuration than what's there in /usr/local/lib. > > Does anyone know how do I fix this? Thanks in advance! > > > > > > Cheers, > > Vince > > E-mail: > > vince@kbrown.oldcampus.yale.edu,\|/ Sys Adm - CircleStar Technologies,Inc. > > root@berkeley.circlestar.com,(o o) San Francisco, California USA > > _________________________oOO__(_)__OOo_____________________________ > > | There are many forms of science but only physics is the quantum | > > | leap of the 21st Century. | > > \_________________________________________________________________/ > > uPoy@physics.ucla.edu UCLA Physics/Electrical Engineering > > Los Angeles, California USA > > > > GUS Digest Adminstrator > > Advanced Gravis UltraSound Card - The ultimate in soundcard technology > > > > System Administrator - bigbang.HIP.Berkeley.EDU > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 21:42:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01422; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:42:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13776; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:39:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13770; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:39:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbibn-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nguyent6@watserv.ucr.edu (Thi V Nguyen) Subject: [Q] How to supress Cc: in pine? Date: 7 Feb 1995 05:02:29 GMT Message-Id: <3h6ut5$t8j@galaxy.ucr.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi all. I have a list which I use to mail to multiple reciepients. The only problem is that the Cc: can get so long that people simply just skim or just ignore the messages completetly. Is there any way to suppress the Cc: list in pine so that it doesn't show up in any of the reciepients' mail? I'm use pine v3.91, btw. Any help is appreciated. -- Thi Nguyen nguyent6@watmail.ucr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 22:03:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01787; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:03:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14371; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:00:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14362; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:59:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbitV-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 21:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g_museaf@titan.sfasu.edu (ALEXANDER FRANCIS MUSE) Subject: Mailing List Question Message-Id: <1995Feb6.135246@titan.sfasu.edu> Date: 6 Feb 95 13:52:46 CST Status: O X-Status: How do I set up a mailing list in Pine? I am new to the program and the help file is not the clearest. Thank yo. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 6 22:49:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02741; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:49:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14631; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:45:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14625; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:45:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbjcX-00038CC; Mon, 6 Feb 95 22:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Unix INBOX Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 21:32:01 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9502061943.AA26570@mailhost.ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.COM> Status: O X-Status: The answer is no, you can't. The definition of INBOX actually comes from IMAP, and is specifically case-insensitive. However, you can access a file named inbox, by prefixing it with some sort of directory specifier, e.g. ~/inbox, ~/mail/inbox, etc. -- Mark -- On 6 Feb 1995, Steven Feinholz wrote: > > On Unix, the receiving system mailbox is located at > > /var/spool/mail/ > > and Unix Pine calls this folder INBOX. On Unix (or > maybe specific to Sun workstation's 'mailtool'), there > is a default mailbox called 'inbox' which is a local > folder in which to move the email. > > Within Pine, every mail folder is case-sensitive except > for the INBOX folder. This makes it impossible to move > my email from the system folder to my local 'inbox' > folder. > > For clarification: at work I use Sun workstations which > use the X-Window 'mailtool'. When I work from home using > the PC to dial in, I use Pine. > > Is there any way that Pine can switch from a case-insensitive > INBOX to something else (maybe even something that the user > can set in the configuration file)? > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ==== AT&T | Steven Feinholz | VOICEplus: 427-5945 > =--=== Global | Client Software | Phone: (310) 524-5945 > =--=== Information | 100 N. Sepulveda Blvd. | FAX: (310) 524-5515 > ==== Solutions | El Segundo, Ca 90245 | sf3@ElSegundoCA.ATTGIS.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 02:42:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08025; Tue, 7 Feb 95 02:42:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17901; Tue, 7 Feb 95 02:25:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17895; Tue, 7 Feb 95 02:25:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbn6V-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 02:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: unger@raindrop.seaslug.org (Tom Unger) Subject: Re: Pine as a BBS Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:21:27 GMT Message-Id: <1995Feb6.232127.8514@raindrop.seaslug.org> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Vincent Cate wrote: >First, about security. I don't want users to be able to get out of Pine. >Are there any recommended settings to tighten up security? How tight can >it get? I think I don't want them to be able to read or write files on >the Unix machine except for their folders. I've done some modifications to pine so that users of a BBS can use it as their mailer. Involved removing features that may let them look at arbitrary files or execute arbitrary programs, and adding upload and download commands so they can read or save file on their local computer. If there is interest I'll see if the BBS folks will let me release the secure version. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Even if I can, people who pick it up will probably have to modify it a little to fit their own environment. I use some functions that are propritary to the BBS. Plus, every's idea of what is secure is a little different. >Second, is there a PC-Pine for PCs that dial into a Unix system? I have not >used the PC-Pine, but it looks like it is for PCs on a network. Do I have >to use SLIP or UUPC on all the PCs? Is there other software that runs on >PCs so users can write and read mail offline so they don't need to stay >connected to my machine so long? (Cable and Wireless is very slow about >getting me more phone lines - nearly 3 months now.) You can use pc-pine with dialup IP (SLIP or PPP). But it's not very good about offline mail reading. I think that Pegasus mail provides good offline reading, but it's a POP mail client. -- Tom Unger WWC, Seattle -- -- Tom Unger WWC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 06:56:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15116; Tue, 7 Feb 95 06:56:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21337; Tue, 7 Feb 95 06:48:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21311; Tue, 7 Feb 95 06:46:40 -0800 Received: from commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (PP); Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:13:41 +0000 Received: from bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA076766419; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:13:39 +0100 Received: by bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (4.1/ZDV-Uni-Tuebingen-1.0) id AA23170; Tue, 7 Feb 95 15:13:38 +0100 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:13:33 +0100 (MET) From: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de X-Sender: zrnsm01@bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: auto-move-read-msgs via IMAP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello all, auto-move-read-msgs works well when connected to the local INBOX. However, when connected to a remote INBOX via IMAP I have no luck. Is it possible to configure pine to also auto-move these messages. Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Spohn | Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 07:21:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15747; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:21:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21819; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:13:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21813; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:13:47 -0800 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA10377 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Tue, 7 Feb 1995 23:13:27 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 23:13:27 +0800 (HKT) From: Mr Kevin Yeung To: Thi V Nguyen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: [Q] How to supress Cc: in pine? In-Reply-To: <3h6ut5$t8j@galaxy.ucr.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 7 Feb 1995, Thi V Nguyen wrote: > Hi all. I have a list which I use to mail to multiple reciepients. The only > problem is that the Cc: can get so long that people simply just skim or just > ignore the messages completetly. Is there any way to suppress the Cc: list in > pine so that it doesn't show up in any of the reciepients' mail? I'm > use pine v3.91, btw. Isn't Bcc for this purpose? -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 07:59:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16759; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:59:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22367; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:47:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22361; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:47:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbs4u-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 07:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz (Jonathan Chen) Subject: Re: Need help with signature! Date: 7 Feb 1995 17:32:39 +1300 Message-Id: <3h6t57$au9@kea.pinnacle.co.nz> References: <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> Status: O X-Status: In <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> kolsam@csulb.edu (Kolsam Mel Keo) writes: >Hi, > >How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my >.signature file appends at the bottom? > >Please reply me. Thanks. > >Mel > Go into Setup/Config and set the "signature-at-bottom" feature. Alternatively you can edit the the .pinerc file and add "signature-at-bottom" to the feature-list entry. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Chen ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 10:07:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22806; Tue, 7 Feb 95 10:07:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25840; Tue, 7 Feb 95 10:02:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25834; Tue, 7 Feb 95 10:02:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbuAC-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 09:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brodon@acy1.digex.net (Don Stimson) Subject: Using Pine as Newsreader Date: 6 Feb 1995 20:41:31 GMT Message-Id: <3h61hr$mp5@news1.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: I just configured pine to be used as a newsreader and was amazed at how fast it got me to the actual newsgroups. What I need to know is how to get pine, if it can, to list how many entrees are listed in each newsgroup. Tin does this so I know when to go into a newsgroup and when not to (nothing there). Can pine do the same. Thanks, Don. brodon@acy.digex.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 13:00:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01375; Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:00:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00144; Tue, 7 Feb 95 12:53:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00136; Tue, 7 Feb 95 12:53:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbwqq-00038HC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 12:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: Need help with signature! Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 10:24:31 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Cool Hacker wrote: > On 3 Feb 1995, Kolsam Mel Keo wrote: > > > How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my > > .signature file appends at the bottom? > > > > > > if you are using pine 3.91 just create a file called .signature in > you home directory > > And set signature at bottom David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Geco-Prakla, Schlumberger House, Buckingham Gate, Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326 Happiness is a binary state. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 13:29:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03343; Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:29:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01098; Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:18:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01092; Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:18:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbxEU-00038FC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 13:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bcorbett@crl.com (Bob Corbett) Subject: Re: Don't want mailing list in message Date: 6 Feb 1995 19:20:36 -0800 Message-Id: <3h6ou4$s5l@crl12.crl.com> References: <3guvr0$t0c@dockmaster.phantom.com> Status: O X-Status: Yes,it is easy. In the To: write your own address. Then, while up at the top hit control R. YOu will get the expanded heading. This will cause you to get more of a heading and it will include bcc (blind carbon copy). On this line type the name of your mailing list. Then, even though the whole list is on that letter, your recipients will only get a letter addressed to themself. sound (street@phantom.com) wrote: : Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or : Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the : list. Thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 14:22:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05753; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:22:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02294; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:09:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02288; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:09:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rby0g-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bcorbett@crl.com (Bob Corbett) Subject: Re: Mailing List Question Date: 6 Feb 1995 16:21:17 -0800 Message-Id: <3h6edt$eih@crl4.crl.com> References: <1995Feb6.135246@titan.sfasu.edu> Status: O X-Status: ALEXANDER FRANCIS MUSE (g_museaf@titan.sfasu.edu) wrote: : How do I set up a mailing list in Pine? I am new to the program and the : help file is not the clearest. Thank yo. I have a mailing list. It was quite easy. Once in my mailing list I believe Ihit z. Check the list at the bottom. It asked me to name the list, which I did as ptp. Then it asked for addresses (not names. Mine won't let me put names on addresses). Then when I want to mail I merely hit ptp on the send line, at least that is what I did early on. Then my list got up to over 100 people and all those addresses took up 3 pages. So, now when I get ready to mail I mail it to ME. Then I hit Conrol R and I get an expanded heading, including a line bcc (blind carbon copy). Next I type my ptp on this line and now the letter goes out with only one person's name, their own, on each of the 100+ letters. Hope this helps, bob Corbett If it is not clear, write back, I'll try again. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 14:50:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07184; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:50:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03171; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:40:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from staff.nada.kth.se by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03165; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:40:31 -0800 Received: from localhost.nada.kth.se (localhost.nada.kth.se [127.0.0.1]) by staff.nada.kth.se (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA19039; Tue, 7 Feb 1995 23:35:18 +0100 Message-Id: <199502072235.XAA19039@staff.nada.kth.se> X-Authentication-Warning: staff.nada.kth.se: Host localhost.nada.kth.se didn't use HELO protocol To: Mary Aplin Cc: pine Subject: Re: POP in Pine 3.91? In-Reply-To: from "Mary Aplin " "Sat, 4 Feb 1995 18:34:44 +0100 (MET) " Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 23:35:17 +0100 From: Peter Svanberg Status: O X-Status: Quoting: Mary Aplin > > ... I thought I > had read/heard somewhere that 3.91 could also be used as a POP mail > server. I do already have pop3d on this same alpha. Is it true? If so, > what needs to be done? (I suppose you meant POP *client*.) >From the 6 januari FAQ: Subject: Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently support POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. Implementation/technical question to the Pine team: On our Unix site we would like to use POP (with Kerberos support, "kpop") just as a safer method of fetching /usr/spool/mail/$USER contents to $HOME/mbox than using NFS. We have a program which can do this kpop fetch. How difficult would it be (for you or us) to change Pine to run this program for the mbox-fetch rather than opening and copying it itself? Hmm, a change in the c-client mbox.c file (we use mbox driver as default), function mbox_ping() seems to be needed, right? --- Peter Svanberg, NADA, KTH Email: psv@nada.kth.se Dept of Num An & CS, Royal Inst of Tech Phone: +46 8 790 71 40 S-100 44 Stockholm, SWEDEN Fax: +46 8 790 09 30 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 14:56:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07475; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:56:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03215; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:50:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mote.Berkeley.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03209; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:50:05 -0800 Received: by mote.Berkeley.EDU (5.57/1.28) id AA29346; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:50:04 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 14:50:03 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Mockensturm To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Removing Header In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This seems like it must be a FAQ but I can't find it in the official FAQ. Anyway, I was wondering if it is possible to remove the header information when you export a message. If so please let me know how to do it. I know you can just edit the file later, but that can be a hassle if you're Exporting a lot of files. Eric Mockensturm Dynamic Stability Lab 1113 Etcheverry Hall University of California - Berkeley (510) 642-6371 http://mote.berkeley.edu/~eric/eric.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 15:06:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08184; Tue, 7 Feb 95 15:06:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03543; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:58:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03537; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:58:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbypM-00038HC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 14:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bcorbett@crl.com (Bob Corbett) Subject: Re: [Q] How to supress Cc: in pine? Date: 6 Feb 1995 23:00:21 -0800 Message-Id: <3h75q5$i31@crl7.crl.com> References: <3h6ut5$t8j@galaxy.ucr.edu> Status: O X-Status: Thi V Nguyen (nguyent6@watserv.ucr.edu) wrote: Yes, and it is quite easy. When you open a message to either compose or forward, address the message to yourself. Then, while the cursor is still there in the heading, his Control R. You will not have an expanded heading. Under the cc line will be a new line bcc which means blind carbon copy. On tht line type the name of your mailing list, or the lsit of individuals, which ever. Then each person will receive a copy that only has your name and their own. The only copy that will have all the names is the one that goes to your sent mail file. Even when you get your on copy (recall, you are the top line recipient) yours will not have the bcc list. Hope this is clear, if not let me know where you get into trouble and I'll try to help out. Best, Bob Corbett : Hi all. I have a list which I use to mail to multiple reciepients. The only : problem is that the Cc: can get so long that people simply just skim or just : ignore the messages completetly. Is there any way to suppress the Cc: list in : pine so that it doesn't show up in any of the reciepients' mail? I'm : use pine v3.91, btw. : Any help is appreciated. : -- : Thi Nguyen : nguyent6@watmail.ucr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 16:14:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10939; Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:14:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05069; Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:03:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05063; Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:03:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rbzrG-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rashid Bawa Subject: Pine for Macintosh Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 11:50:04 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am looking out for a version of PINE that will run on a MACINTOSH. I would appreciate any suggestions on possible sites. Thanking you in avdance. ========================================================================= G E O R G E B R O W N - T H E C I T Y C O L L E G E ========================================================================= Rashid Bawa \ / George Brown College System Administrator || 146 Kendal Ave. || Toronto, Ontario Phone: (416) 944-4591 || Canada E-Mail: rbawa@gbrownc.on.ca || M5R 1M3 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 17:10:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13382; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:10:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06538; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:03:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06532; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:03:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc0k9-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 16:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dougq@iglou.iglou.com (Douglas H. Quebbeman) Subject: PINE Editor needs a SHELL facility Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 17:57:25 GMT Status: O X-Status: I really get irritated by the lack of a SHELL facility in the PINE message editor. At least if I could POSTPONE the composition and then SHELL from the menu without leaving PINE completely, that would suffice. But it would be ideal to have it in the editor itself. I tried to switch to using ELM for a while, but gave up, since it doesn't have a COMPOSE command. I suppose I'm expected to use EMACS with the appropriate macros, but I don't want to travel down that road again, so I use PICO (it looks a lot like the editor built into PINE, probably due to the common authorship). Does PINE have a SHELL command? Am I missing it? Send replies via email, please. -- -- -Douglas H. Quebbeman (dougq@iglou.com) "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 17:16:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13591; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:16:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06835; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:08:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06829; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:08:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc0rs-00038FC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikee@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Michael J. Ellis) Subject: 150+ concurrent copies of pine running..... Date: 5 Feb 1995 22:03:51 -0500 Message-Id: <3h43in$9rd@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hiya folks.... Was wondering if anyone has messed with this at all. Pine is a pretty big boy to run. I've got a Sun Sparc2k, and frequently have 200+ people on. Has anyone played with Shared-configurations of pine under Solaris 2.x? I thought that maybe unbundling pico from pine would help. (since pico would only be called if someone is composing and not when someone is reading). I guess I'm looking for ideas on cutting down on memory usuage... Thanks for any clues... (I know..... buy more memory :-) MikeE -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael John J. Ellis | Sr. Programmer Analyst | ASHES to ASHES..... The George Washington University | DOS to DOS. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 17:21:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13752; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:21:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06941; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:13:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06935; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:13:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc0tv-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric.Beaudoin@dmr.ca (Eric Beaudoin) Subject: Re: Compiling pine on FreeBSD 2.0R Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 21:46:51 -0500 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article , yku00401@rufous.yorku.ca (Ilan Graifer) wrote: > I have been trying to compile pine on a system running FreeBSD 2.0R, > but I wasn't successful in doing so. > > I have tried both "build bsd" and "build bsi" with the same result. > > If anyone managed to compile pine for this platform, could you send the > patches. I've asked the same question some time ago with no result. The problem is that none of the install script that come with Pine are working with BSD 4.4 g and it seams nobody has done the port yet. Some guys here who are a lot better than me in Unix we'll do the required modifications as soon as they resolved our more pressing problems (with FreeBSD 2.0R, the DNS stop and the server reboot for no reason). I'll post as soon as I have a workable solution. If you find a way before that, please post here or contact me. Best *** *o o* __________________ooO_(_)_Ooo_________________________________________________ Eric Beaudoin | Mes opignions sont miennes et Groupe DMR Inc. (514) 877-3301 | peuvent devenir les votres. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 17:36:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14244; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:36:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07181; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:28:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07175; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:28:39 -0800 Received: from localhost by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67e/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA03078; Tue, 7 Feb 95 17:27:18 -0800 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 16:02:52 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? To: Dan Schlitt Cc: Pine List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:37:00 -0500 (EST), Dan Schlitt wrote: > The reason that I mentioned Salz at all was that the complaint seemed to > be one about the interoperation of Pine and INN. I expect INN to reflect > his thinking and that of the others who I knew were working on the > revision of the protocol. As I said, I think that Salz has the right ideas. The problem is that I've seen certain other individuals in the NNTP community challenge him on other matters (specifically, the role of message headers in news), and what's worse, by his own admission the NNTP document update effort has stalled. It's a shame, but given what I've seen, I can understand the burnout. > I guess that I would come down on the side of using HELP instead of NOOP > provided using it would not generate unexpected output for the client to > deal with. But it is a matter of taste. The other idea is to use DATE -- a nice sort-of no-op in INN. Unfortunately, DATE is also absent from RFC-977. I'd rather explain to people what the unrecognized NOOPs do than what the unrecognized DATEs do! ;-) > On the matter of the timeout, I just disagree about who is best to judge. > The server is in the best position to manage the use of its resources. > one should not undermine that management by non-standard behaviour of the > client. It depends upon what you consider the role of timeouts to be. If you see them as a safety belt to allow the garbage collection of abandoned collections, then it is not only reasonable, it is *mandatory*, that the client reassure the server that it is still there at periodic intervals. > Perhaps the protocol should allow the negotiation of the timeout > between client and server (back to the subject of point one). Perhaps, but technically, timeouts are a violation of the TCP spec! TCP is rather emphatic about this. During a nuclear war, you do not want Clinton's telnet session to nuker.af.mil to be dropped just because a section of network in Ohio evaporated and it took a few minutes before another 747 with a cisco and microwave transceiver could be sent up to replace the lost line. > In the > case where the client and server are under the same administrative > control you should be able to deal with this problem by modifying the > server. That ought to be the case at U. of Wn. where your most important > user base is. As I said, timeouts have a useful purpose in an LAN configuration with machines such as PCs and Macs which are not completely careful about notifying the other end (via TCP reset) when their applications go away (worse, they tend to use the same port numbers, and get screwed if the connection is still there at the server). We're not really worried about keeping our NNTP service available during nuclear war. ;-) But, we want to have abandoned servers from PC/Mac clients go away fairly aggressively (for reasons outlined above) without impacting live clients. This leads us naturally to short timeouts and keepalive pings. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 18:14:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15553; Tue, 7 Feb 95 18:14:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07885; Tue, 7 Feb 95 18:03:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07879; Tue, 7 Feb 95 18:03:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc1ha-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 18:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbayerl@uspto.gov (Raymond Bayerl) Subject: Re: Using Windows Date: 4 Feb 1995 12:21:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3h0d3d$f2t@pioneer.uspto.gov> References: Status: O X-Status: Amy L. Lauderdale (laall@cotton.vislab.olemiss.edu) wrote: : I use telix to connect to my local university and use pine from that : system. I have a student who is using the windows terminal software : to connect from home. I tried it here on my computer to try to : help her learn. : There are a couple of problems we ran into. It will not let us use : the arrow keys in pine. And it will not let us use ^C to cancel : a message. : Any suggestions? : ************************************************************ : Amy Lauderdale/Math Teacher : Lafayette High School/Northwest Community College : Oxford, MS laall@cotton.vislab.olemiss.edu : ************************************************************ ******* This is a problem I also ran into when using WINDOWS TERMINAL to attempt to send ^C and arrow key commands to our machine. My solution was to toggle the parameter: Settings/Terminal Preferences/"Use Function, Arrow, and Ctrl Keys for Windows" from its default of "X" to no-"X" in the dialog box. This apparently keeps TERMINAL from intercepting these keystrokes and allows them to pass to the modem. Raymond Bayerl, Patent Examiner, US PTO rbayerl@pioneer.uspto.gov ******* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 21:24:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20593; Tue, 7 Feb 95 21:24:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10904; Tue, 7 Feb 95 21:19:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10898; Tue, 7 Feb 95 21:19:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc4jR-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 21:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Cool Hacker Subject: Re: How do I save Pinemail to a text file? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 04:46:16 GMT Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 4 Feb 1995, Rheinhardt wrote: > Date: Sat, 4 FEB 1995 11:25:08 -0500 > From: Rheinhardt > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: How do I save Pinemail to a text file? > > I know that 'Y' prints it, but how do I save it to my hard drive? Please > e-mail. > > press e while reading the mail and it asks you for a filename also you can use v and then press s [0m-- [7mThe above is a result of random neuron activity in the writer's brain. [0m [7m \\\/// [0m / _ _ \ [7m (| (.)(.) |) [0m+---------------------oOOo- () -oOOo---------------------------------+ [7m......| |......................................POLYTECHNIC UNIVERSITY. [0m......| |.............__ ....__......................... Computer Eng. [7m......| |.\ /\.. | \.../ ..| |...__.......................... [0m......| |..\ / \..|_/..| __ ..|___|../ \../| ..****************** [7m.__...| |...\ /====\.| \..| |..| |.| |. | .. @Barney.poly.edu [0m.\ \_/ /.....\/ \| \..\__|..| |..\__/.._|_ .****************** [7m+.\___/..................oooO........................................+ [0m ( ) Oooo. [7m \ ( ( ) [0m \_) ) / [7m (_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 22:11:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21686; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:11:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11796; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:05:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11790; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:05:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc5SJ-00038QC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Penio Penev Subject: Bug (ID A0001): Suggestion: Edit the text of incomming messages Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2125129877-729315084-792177040=:21291" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 17:10:40 GMT Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2125129877-729315084-792177040=:21291 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >From time to time one receives a non-attached document in the body of the message and some kind of explanation in the beginning. It would be great to have means of automating the vieing of the document in this case. For example, if I have received a *TeX file with some comments, I would like to, say, press E)dit while viewing, which will take me to the editor, cut the actual *TeX lines and save them in a file from the editor. This could be done with or without saving the modifications to the text of the message. -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 ---2125129877-729315084-792177040=:21291-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 7 22:53:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22801; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:53:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13349; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:49:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13337; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:49:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rc6Ao-00038CC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 22:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: viljanen@cc.Helsinki.FI (Lea Viljanen) Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag Date: 6 Feb 1995 11:54:36 -0000 Message-Id: <3h52ls$kri@kantti.Helsinki.FI> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Ed Greshko wrote: > > Just to illustrate. In the past I received my email on a system >call cosmo. However, now I have a .forward on cosmo pointing to my account >on hobbes. If you send email to egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com it will >show up in pine with the "+". However, if you send email to >Ed.Greshko@cdc.com I will not get the "+" since the match fails. Note that >it doesn't matter what the RHS of your email address contains. We use the Firstname.Lastname -type aliases a lot, so our users asked if they could get pine to recognize those aliases too. This alias thing should probably be a configurable option, but I solved it by modifying the source to use the PERSONAL_NAME variable. It's usually set automatically from the gecos field, but can be set from the pinerc too. So, if you set the PERSONAL_NAME to Ed Greshko, this patch gets pine to recognize e-mail sent to Ed.Greshko@cdc.com and tag them with '+'. Note that since the RHS isn't checked at all, this can have surprise effects with, for example, John.Smiths of the world. ---------- 8< ------------------- 8< ----------------- 8< ---------- *** addrbook.c.orig Mon Oct 17 13:58:42 1994 --- addrbook.c Mon Oct 17 14:03:20 1994 *************** *** 7848,7858 **** ADDRESS *a; struct pine *ps; { if(!a || a->mailbox == NULL) return 0; ! /* at least LHS must match */ ! if(strucmp(a->mailbox, ps->VAR_USER_ID) == 0 && /* and either personal name matches or hostname matches */ --- 7848,7867 ---- ADDRESS *a; struct pine *ps; { + char *alias, *p; + if(!a || a->mailbox == NULL) return 0; ! alias = fs_get(strlen(ps->VAR_PERSONAL_NAME) + 1); ! strcpy(alias, ps->VAR_PERSONAL_NAME); ! ! while ((p = strindex(alias, ' ')) != NULL) ! *p = '.'; ! ! /* at least LHS must match user-id */ ! /* or alias formed from PERSONAL_NAME matches - LadyBug -94 */ ! if((strucmp(a->mailbox, ps->VAR_USER_ID) == 0 || ! strucmp(a->mailbox, alias) == 0) && /* and either personal name matches or hostname matches */ -- Lea 'LadyBug' Viljanen University of Helsinki Lea doesn't Lea.Viljanen@Helsinki.FI Computing Centre rhyme with tea. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 03:30:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29538; Wed, 8 Feb 95 03:30:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22539; Wed, 8 Feb 95 03:22:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leeman.york.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22533; Wed, 8 Feb 95 03:22:01 -0800 Received: from unix.york.ac.uk by leeman.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <05372-0@leeman.york.ac.uk>; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:19:28 +0000 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (940715.SGI.52/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) for @leeman.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA27684; Wed, 8 Feb 95 11:20:00 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 11:19:57 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Don Stimson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine as Newsreader In-Reply-To: <3h61hr$mp5@news1.digex.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The current version of Pine (3.91) doesn't show you how many articles are present in a newsgroup. No indication has been given (that I recall) whether this may be included in a future release; but certainly it gets asked for on and off! The easiest thing for you to do is press the TAB key. TAB normally moves you to the next New (unread) message/article. When reading news if there are no more articles in the current newsgroup it will search on through your list of subscribed groups looking for one that contains articles. If no more newsgroups with articles are found it offers to return you to the INBOX. It may be that the same behaviour applies to mail folders (probably does, knowing the Pine Team's wonderful consistency) but I tend to only use TAB in anger when reading News so haven't noticed. I seem to recall there may be some options in the Setup Configuration screen too worth looking at. Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-432767 On 6 Feb 1995, Don Stimson wrote: > I just configured pine to be used as a newsreader and was amazed at how > fast it got me to the actual newsgroups. What I need to know is how to > get pine, if it can, to list how many entrees are listed in each > newsgroup. Tin does this so I know when to go into a newsgroup and when > not to (nothing there). Can pine do the same. > > Thanks, Don. > brodon@acy.digex.net > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 05:55:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04311; Wed, 8 Feb 95 05:55:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26315; Wed, 8 Feb 95 05:37:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26307; Wed, 8 Feb 95 05:37:43 -0800 Received: from [199.218.192.6] (bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us [199.218.192.6]) by bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us (8.6.9/A/UX 3.1) with SMTP id FAA00343; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 05:37:10 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 08:37:16 -0800 To: Dan Schlitt From: root@bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us (Mail automatically resent by Bigbird) Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Cc: Pine List Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:37:00 -0500 (EST), Dan Schlitt wrote: > The reason that I mentioned Salz at all was that the complaint seemed to > be one about the interoperation of Pine and INN. I expect INN to reflect > his thinking and that of the others who I knew were working on the > revision of the protocol. As I said, I think that Salz has the right ideas. The problem is that I've seen certain other individuals in the NNTP community challenge him on other matters (specifically, the role of message headers in news), and what's worse, by his own admission the NNTP document update effort has stalled. It's a shame, but given what I've seen, I can understand the burnout. > I guess that I would come down on the side of using HELP instead of NOOP > provided using it would not generate unexpected output for the client to > deal with. But it is a matter of taste. The other idea is to use DATE -- a nice sort-of no-op in INN. Unfortunately, DATE is also absent from RFC-977. I'd rather explain to people what the unrecognized NOOPs do than what the unrecognized DATEs do! ;-) > On the matter of the timeout, I just disagree about who is best to judge. > The server is in the best position to manage the use of its resources. > one should not undermine that management by non-standard behaviour of the > client. It depends upon what you consider the role of timeouts to be. If you see them as a safety belt to allow the garbage collection of abandoned collections, then it is not only reasonable, it is *mandatory*, that the client reassure the server that it is still there at periodic intervals. > Perhaps the protocol should allow the negotiation of the timeout > between client and server (back to the subject of point one). Perhaps, but technically, timeouts are a violation of the TCP spec! TCP is rather emphatic about this. During a nuclear war, you do not want Clinton's telnet session to nuker.af.mil to be dropped just because a section of network in Ohio evaporated and it took a few minutes before another 747 with a cisco and microwave transceiver could be sent up to replace the lost line. > In the > case where the client and server are under the same administrative > control you should be able to deal with this problem by modifying the > server. That ought to be the case at U. of Wn. where your most important > user base is. As I said, timeouts have a useful purpose in an LAN configuration with machines such as PCs and Macs which are not completely careful about notifying the other end (via TCP reset) when their applications go away (worse, they tend to use the same port numbers, and get screwed if the connection is still there at the server). We're not really worried about keeping our NNTP service available during nuclear war. ;-) But, we want to have abandoned servers from PC/Mac clients go away fairly aggressively (for reasons outlined above) without impacting live clients. This leads us naturally to short timeouts and keepalive pings. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 09:17:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13610; Wed, 8 Feb 95 09:17:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01370; Wed, 8 Feb 95 09:02:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cvxfr.fr.convex.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01364; Wed, 8 Feb 95 09:02:55 -0800 Received: from cvxfr1.fr.convex.com by cvxfr.fr.convex.com (8.6.9/10.3) id RAA23650; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:48:57 +0100 Received: (from emile@localhost) by cvxfr1.fr.convex.com (8.6.9/10.3) id RAA16378 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:49:01 +0100 From: Emile CARCAMO Message-Id: <199502081649.RAA16378@cvxfr1.fr.convex.com> Subject: Pine 3.91 under ConvexOS 11.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:49:00 +0100 (MET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1687 Status: O X-Status: Hello, I've been using pine since release 3.05 under ConvexOS. The product is REALLY NICE and fits to all kind of users ('beginners' and 'gurus') in the Convex French office. Now I try to port version 3.91. After the 'build cvx' completion, I got this message when exiting pine : > Copyright 1989-1994. PINE is a trademark of the University of Washington. > [Closing folder "INBOX". Keeping message] >Y [Yes] >N No >Error resetting signals: No such file or directory Does it sound like a known problem to you ? I forgot to point out that I did comment two lines in c-client/osdep.h to avoid an error message concerning malloc/realloc during build : >Making Pine. >cc -tm c1 -DCVX -cxdb -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"CVX\" -c addrbook.c >cc: Error on line 49 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'malloc' redeclared: incompatible types. >cc: Error on line 50 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'realloc' redeclared: incompatible types. >cc: Can't recover from previous errors >*** Exit 1 >`pine' not built due to errors I compile successfully pine once these lines are commented. Many thanks in advance for your help, best regards. ---------------------------------- |\/\/\/| Emile Carcamo (emile@convex.fr) | | Software support engineer | | __________________________________ | (.)(.) C _) /-----------------\ Convex Phone: 331-30-58-93-00 | ,___| ---| I'm proud to be | France Fax: 331-30-45-30-10 | / | a "grouillot".. | /---\ \_________________/ ---------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 12:41:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23275; Wed, 8 Feb 95 12:41:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06551; Wed, 8 Feb 95 12:30:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06542; Wed, 8 Feb 95 12:29:59 -0800 Received: by ees1a0.engr.ccny.cuny.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1-940815-1) id AA05791; Wed, 8 Feb 95 15:28:57 EST Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:28:55 -0500 (EST) From: Dan Schlitt To: Lea Viljanen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Personal Mail Flag In-Reply-To: <3h52ls$kri@kantti.Helsinki.FI> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Berkeley mail, if you will pardon the expression, has a provision for specifying a list of alternate names. It is used to remove the alternate names from the list of recipients when replying. But, then, it didn't really have a feature like the personal mail flag so it couldn't use it for that purpose in any case. Perhaps the Pine team could consider such a feature as a part of the configuration. /dan -- Dan Schlitt School of Engineering Computer Systems dan@ee-mail.engr.ccny.cuny.edu City College of New York (212)650-6760 New York, NY 10031 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 13:57:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27380; Wed, 8 Feb 95 13:57:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08385; Wed, 8 Feb 95 13:48:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08379; Wed, 8 Feb 95 13:48:30 -0800 Received: from terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA21044 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 8 Feb 1995 16:46:35 -0500 Received: by terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA (5.0/5.17) id AA01680; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 16:46:51 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 16:46:51 -0500 (EST) From: SI-Johanne Duhaime To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: reply Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 355 Status: O X-Status: Bonjour I have the following problem. I sent a similar question a few days ago and did not get any answer... If someone use the function "reply" to reply to one of my message he gets the following return adress: duhaimj%terre@terre.ircm.umontreal.ca instead of duhaimj@ircm.umontreal.ca Any idea of how to solve the problem? Johanne Duhaime IRCM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 14:43:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00159; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:43:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10055; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:33:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu4.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10047; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:33:09 -0800 Received: from msi.UUCP by uu4.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA02278 for ; Wed, 8 Feb 95 17:14:44 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 13:17:25 -0800 (PST) From: Knute Snortum To: Pine Information Discussion Group Subject: Wyse terminals and pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-16838-792278245=:28724" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-16838-792278245=:28724 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here are a few scripts to help solve the "arrow keys in pine on a Wyse terminal" problem. Put them in your "bin" directory and then call "wpine" instead of "pine". Your arrow keys and a few function keys (Prev/Next Page, Line/Char delete) will now work. Beware: if you do multiple session stuff you may wind up with the wrong kind of keys in the wrong screen. Call me if you have questions/suggestions. --- Knute Snortum Internet: knute@msi.masi.com MAS Inc. Compuserve: 72144,1646 ---559023410-16838-792278245=:28724 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=wpine Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3cGluZSAtIG1ha2UgYXJyb3cgKGFuZCBvdGhlcikga2V5cyB3b3Jr IGluIHBpbmUgb24gV3lzZS10eXBlIHRlcm1pbmFscw0KIw0KDQp0cmFwIHd5 c2UucGluZS5yZXNldCAwIDEgMiAzIDE1DQp3eXNlLnBpbmUuc2V0dXANCi91 c3IvYmluL3BpbmUNCg== ---559023410-16838-792278245=:28724 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="wyse.pine.setup" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3eXNlLnBpbmUuc2V0dXAgLSBTZXR1cCBzb21lIGtleXMgb24gYSBX eXNlIHRlcm1pbmFsIHRvIHdvcmsgaW4gcGluZQ0KIw0KDQplY2hvICJcblNl dHRpbmcgdXAgV3lzZSBhcnJvdyBhbmQgZnVuY3Rpb24ga2V5cy4uLiINCg0K IyBOZXh0L1ByZXYgUGFnZQ0KDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjFyIFwwMTc3XGMiDQpl Y2hvICJcMDMzWjF3LVwwMTc3XGMiDQoNCiMgQ2hhci9MaW5lIGRlbGV0ZQ0K DQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjE1XDA0XDAxNzdcYyINCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMTZcMDEz XDAxNzdcYyINCg0KIyBBcnJvdyBrZXlzDQoNCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMStcMDMz W0FcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxLFwwMzNbQlwwMTc3XGMiDQplY2hv ICJcMDMzWjEuXDAzM1tDXDAxNzdcYyINCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMS1cMDMzW0Rc MDE3N1xjIg0KDQplY2hvICJEb25lXG4iDQo= ---559023410-16838-792278245=:28724 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="wyse.pine.reset" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3eXNlLnBpbmUucmVzZXQgLSBSZXNldCBzdGFuZGFyZCBXeXNlIGtl eXMNCiMNCg0KZWNobyAiXG5SZXNldHRpbmcgc3RhbmRhcmQgV3lzZSBhcnJv dy9mdW5jdGlvbiBrZXlzLi4uIg0KDQojIE5leHQvUHJldiBQYWdlDQoNCmVj aG8gIlwwMzNaMXJcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxd1wwMTc3XGMiDQoN CiMgQ2hhci9MaW5lIGRlbGV0ZQ0KDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjE1XDAxNzdcYyIN CmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMTZcMDE3N1xjIg0KDQojIEFycm93IGtleXMNCg0KZWNo byAiXDAzM1oxK1wwMTc3XGMiDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjEuXDAxNzdcYyINCmVj aG8gIlwwMzNaMSxcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxLVwwMTc3XGMiDQoN CmVjaG8gIkRvbmUuXG4iDQo= ---559023410-16838-792278245=:28724-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 14:45:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00234; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:45:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10077; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:34:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post4.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10071; Wed, 8 Feb 95 14:34:14 -0800 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #7723) id <01HMT8GO0YO08WW4TO@asu.edu>; Wed, 08 Feb 1995 15:34:07 -0700 (MST) Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113220>; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:34:04 -0700 Date: Wed, 08 Feb 1995 15:33:53 -0700 From: Shah Subject: Trouble setting standard-printer To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Content-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="1915879283-1908704872-792276430=:23160" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --1915879283-1908704872-792276430=:23160 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi! We're having trouble having Pine 3.91 reckon and use the printer specified in the system-wide configuration file. We've set "standard-printer=lp" on a SunOS 4.1.3 test host and we get "lpr" for the standard print command. Moreover, we have set "standard-printer=lpr" on a Solaris 2.3 production host and we get "lp" for the standard print command. This also happens on an HP/UX V9.0 host. However, this does not happen on an AIX 3.2.5 host. Any suggestions? This is an important matter to us because we have a customized "lpr." All replies will be much appreciated. -- --1915879283-1908704872-792276430=:23160-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 16:42:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06409; Wed, 8 Feb 95 16:42:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13212; Wed, 8 Feb 95 16:37:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from osf1.gmu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13194; Wed, 8 Feb 95 16:36:59 -0800 Received: by osf1.gmu.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv1) id AA10738; Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:29:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:29:29 -0500 (EST) From: "Sherry H. Lake" Reply-To: slake@gmu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Runaway Pine Processes Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Machine: DEC 2100 (alpha) running OSF/1 3.0 Pine 3.91 Problem: Users are not properly logging off their accounts and pine processes are eating between 10 and 60 % of the CPU. I spoke to a few users, and they turned off their PC while still logged on and in the pine program. Is there anything we can do (besides educating our users) with these runaway jobs. If the user was not in pine, and turned off their PC without logging off, the login shell goes away once the connection is gone. But because they are in pine, the login shell does not go away (and neither does the pine). Is this a feature of pine? :-) ---- Sherry H. Lake slake@gmu.edu Electronic Mail Consultant George Mason University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 8 21:27:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14783; Wed, 8 Feb 95 21:27:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17690; Wed, 8 Feb 95 21:24:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17684; Wed, 8 Feb 95 21:24:44 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02412; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 00:24:28 +0500 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 00:24:27 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1208 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 2 Feb 1995, Barry Landy wrote: > One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both > annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to > Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to > reply anywhere else. > I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am > asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". The headers on most messages from mailing lists (not this one, unfortunately) include a "From:" field and a "Reply to:" field. Depending on the circumstances, it may be appropriate to reply to the whole list (Reply to), or it may be appropriate to reply only to the original sender (From). Therefore it's appropriate that Pine gives you those options. Why do you want Pine to force you to always reply to the list rather than to the individual? Inquiring minds want to know... -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 08:40:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02066; Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:40:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28003; Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:27:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from franklin.seas.gwu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27997; Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:27:33 -0800 Received: from gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (gwis2.circ.gwu.edu [128.164.127.252]) by franklin.seas.gwu.edu (v8) with ESMTP id LAA09186 for ; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 11:27:32 -0500 Received: (from kam@localhost) by gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA08772; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 11:27:29 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 11:27:28 -0500 (EST) From: Kamala Rickett Subject: Re: Formatting for PINE (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Kamala Dionne Rickett, MHS Research Associate Making the Grade ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:09:17 -0800 From:pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu To: Kamala Rickett Subject: Re: Formatting for PINE (fwd) This is an automated response to your Pine[*] bug report. The purpose of this message is to: 1) acknowledge receipt of your report, 2) apologize in advance for the fact that you may not receive any other response to it, 3) assure you that if it is a bug report or enhancement suggestion, we will look at it carefully, and 4) tell you how to get more information or help. Pine is now used by literally millions of people around the world, and thousands more every day. Not surprisingly, the number of messages sent to our "pine-bugs" address has become enormous. Since we receive no funding to support anyone outside the University of Washington, it is no longer possible to answer all of them individually. Alternatives: o In addition to Pine's context-sensitive internal help text, also read the Release Notes (the R command on the Main Menu.) o Check out the Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list. To get a copy by email, simply REPLY to this message, or send any message to: pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu o Check with your local support staff. If you are not sure how to contact them, try sending a very polite note to "postmaster" on your system, asking that your inquiry be directed to the help desk. o If you can't get any help from your local support staff (or you *are* the local support staff), consider sending a message to the world-wide "pine-info" email list at: pine-info@cac.washington.edu or post to the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (pine-info and comp.mail.pine are linked together, so there is no need to both send email and post). Your message will be seen by thousands of Pine users and system administrators, one of whom may have just the information you seek. o If you are handy with FTP or WWW tools, you may find some useful documentation on our Pine Information Center servers: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine o If you really, *really* need to get in touch with the Pine development team directly, send a message to: pine@cac.washington.edu Note that we get many questions that are not actually about Pine. In case your inquiry concerns programs such as talk, chat, or IRC, or problems with disk space on your system, or with unknown/invalid email addresses, please contact your local computer support staff. However, we still welcome actual bug reports and suggestions. With sincere apologies for this impersonal response, The Pine Development Team * Pine is a registered trademark University of Washington of, and copyright by, the Seattle, WA, USA University of Washington. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 09:12:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03937; Thu, 9 Feb 95 09:12:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28743; Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:59:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cvxfr.fr.convex.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28737; Thu, 9 Feb 95 08:59:23 -0800 Received: from cvxfr1.fr.convex.com by cvxfr.fr.convex.com (8.6.9/10.3) id SAA07455; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 18:00:17 +0100 Received: (from emile@localhost) by cvxfr1.fr.convex.com (8.6.9/10.3) id SAA03492 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 18:00:22 +0100 Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:42:44 +0100 From: Emile CARCAMO Message-Id: <199502091700.SAA03492@cvxfr1.fr.convex.com> To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine 3.91 under ConvexOS 11.0 Cc: emile@cvxfr.fr.convex.com Status: O X-Status: Hello, I've been using pine since release 3.05 under ConvexOS. The product is REALLY NICE and fits to all kind of users ('beginners' and 'gurus') in the Convex French office. Now I try to port version 3.91. After the 'build cvx' completion, I got this message when exiting pine : > Copyright 1989-1994. PINE is a trademark of the University of Washington. > [Closing folder "INBOX". Keeping message] >Y [Yes] >N No >Error resetting signals: No such file or directory Does it sound like a known problem to you ? I forgot to point out that I did comment two lines in c-client/osdep.h to avoid an error message concerning malloc/realloc during build : >Making Pine. >cc -tm c1 -DCVX -cxdb -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"CVX\" -c addrbook.c >cc: Error on line 49 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'malloc' redeclared: incompatible types. >cc: Error on line 50 of ./../c-client/osdep.h: 'realloc' redeclared: incompatible types. >cc: Can't recover from previous errors >*** Exit 1 >`pine' not built due to errors I compile successfully pine once these lines are commented. Many thanks in advance for your help, best regards. ---------------------------------- |\/\/\/| Emile Carcamo (emile@convex.fr) | | Software support engineer | | __________________________________ | (.)(.) C _) /-----------------\ Convex Phone: 331-30-58-93-00 | ,___| ---| I'm proud to be | France Fax: 331-30-45-30-10 | / | a "grouillot".. | /---\ \_________________/ ---------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 13:04:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05653; Thu, 9 Feb 95 13:04:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04536; Thu, 9 Feb 95 12:42:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04520; Thu, 9 Feb 95 12:42:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcfby-00038FC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 12:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cs922080@red.ariel.cs.yorku.ca (ILAN GRAIFER) Subject: Compiling pine on FreeBSD 2.0R Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 1995 15:29:55 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have been trying to compile pine on a system running FreeBSD 2.0R, but I wasn't successful in doing so. I have tried both "build bsd" and "build bsi" with the same result. If anyone managed to compile pine for this platform, could you send the patches. Thanks Ilan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 13:38:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07365; Thu, 9 Feb 95 13:38:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05068; Thu, 9 Feb 95 13:12:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hilbert.math.ksu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05062; Thu, 9 Feb 95 13:12:06 -0800 Received: from weyl.math.ksu.edu by hilbert.math.ksu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1+tar) id AA28569; Thu, 9 Feb 95 15:12:04 CST Received: by weyl.math.ksu.edu (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07482; Thu, 9 Feb 95 15:12:03 CST Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 15:12:02 -0600 (CST) From: Lige Li Subject: purchase To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Dear sir: I would like to buy your software. Please let me know how to order it. Please send the information to: ahnik@kusccgx.korea.ac.kr Sincerely, Inkyung Ahn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 14:39:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11103; Thu, 9 Feb 95 14:39:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06617; Thu, 9 Feb 95 14:13:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hertz.njit.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06611; Thu, 9 Feb 95 14:13:46 -0800 Received: (from exh9152@localhost) by hertz.njit.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA14289; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 17:13:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 17:13:43 -0500 (EST) From: add To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help using pine on my home pc. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: i will be greatly thanful to anybody who can help me and guide of how to use pine on my home pc.i have tried to use pine from my home but ihad no access.i can use it in the university. there must be some command that i am missing but no one here at the university can help me.please be kind to get in touch with me if you know how to use pine remotly on my home pc. thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 17:04:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18521; Thu, 9 Feb 95 17:04:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10903; Thu, 9 Feb 95 16:37:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from malone.malone.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10897; Thu, 9 Feb 95 16:37:17 -0800 Received: for pickard@malone.malone.edu by malone.malone.edu (4.1/921206.2314) id AA00693; Thu, 9 Feb 95 19:42:18 EST Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 19:42:11 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Pickard X-Sender: pickard@malone To: Pine Mailing List Subject: keystrokes in Pico Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I use Pine 3.91 on SunOs 4.1.1 via modem (vt100 -- COMit for Windows). Everything seems to work very well except for when I use Pico. The composer in Pine works normally -- control sequences and even the arrow keys with the scroll lock on. But in Pico, nothing seems to work right. No arrow keys and CTRL X is about the only control sequence that works. I know I can hit the ESC key twice in place of CTRL but why does everything work in Pine but not in Pico? I thought they were basically the same thing. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Mark Pickard From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 21:17:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26288; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:17:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15309; Thu, 9 Feb 95 20:53:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15303; Thu, 9 Feb 95 20:53:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcnK4-00038FC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 20:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sdemena@castlebbs.com (Steven de Mena) Subject: Re: ALPHABETIZE a file in UNIX, How? Date: 6 Feb 1995 07:02:47 GMT Message-Id: <3h4hin$6g2@news.castlebbs.com> References: <3gr9fo$gtd@fohnix.metronet.com> <3gtith$8dt@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: John Dulaney (jdulaney@crl.com) wrote: : Well...if only some awk genius could help me out here. : I know nothing about computer languages etc. : Much appreciated! : Best, John Try the "sort" command. Read the online manual pages for it to see the parameters: "man sort" -- \\\_''/' ::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-oOO (/o-o\) OOo-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-:: : Steven de Mena - Sysop o (. " .) o Int: sdemena@castlebbs.com : : THE CASTLE bbs (96 lines) \___) ~ (___/ MajorNet: Sysop@TC1 : : Los Angeles, CA, USA BBS: Telnet/199.190.83.2 Modem/(+1) 818.985.6075 : ::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-::-*-:: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 21:27:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26448; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:27:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15544; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:03:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15538; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:03:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcnQ4-00038HC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 20:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdorrin@wo0414.wo.blm.gov Subject: mailcap path to xv? Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 12:16:12 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: >From mdorrin@wo0414.wo.blm.govTue Feb 7 12:13:41 1995 Date: Mon, 6 FEB 1995 11:17:14 -0500 From: mdorrin@wo0414.wo.blm.gov Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime Subject: specifying viewer path in .mailcap? How to tell Pine (and Mosaic) where to find external viewer xv (and others like mpeg, etc)??? Do I specify the viewer's (xv)path in the .mailcap file or in an environment variable prior to invoking Pine (or Mosaic)? Currently, I place xv in Pine's (AND Mosaic's) directory. I'm not happy about the loss of hard disk space due to duplicate xv's in different directories. Thanks in advance. ======================================================= / \ / / \\\' , / // \\\//, _/ //, Mike Dorrington \_-//' / //<, m1dorrin@attmail.com \ /// > \\\`__/_ 202 452 5002 (fax) /,)-~>> _\` \\\ 202 452 5027 (voice) (/ \\ //\\ // // \\\ (( (( ======================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 21:39:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26783; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:39:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15641; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:13:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15635; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:13:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcnc6-00038FC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 21:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Keith Reel Subject: Re: Changing the from line Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 14:55:48 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Actually, they can change this from their .pinerc file. However, the system administrator can administratively prevent this. All he/she needs to do is create a pine.conf.fixed file (in addition to the pine.conf file) and make the appropriate settings. What the pine.conf.fixed file does is permanently fixes any settings you do not want your users changing. Guess how we found this out? Yep, our students were coming up with creative "from" names too. Hope this helps Keith Reel ONU System Administrator On 31 Jan 1995, Brian P. Hampson wrote: > On Tue, 31 Jan 1995, David Ewing wrote: > > > Pine 3.05 on AIX 3.2.5. Several students at our institution are changing > > the FROM line in their outgoing mail. For some reason, the sender line is > > not showing up either. They are changing the address to GOD@UNIVERSE. > > Needless to say, the teacher who is receiving most of the mail is curious who > > God really is. Is there a way to insure that the sender will be correctly > > identified. Thanks in advance. > > In later versions (we're up to 3.91 now I think), there IS no FROM line > handed to you, and there is greater control for the system adminstrator. > > B. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | > |System Administration, | > |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | > |Vancouver, BC | > | | > | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | > | | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 22:53:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28690; Thu, 9 Feb 95 22:53:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16773; Thu, 9 Feb 95 22:29:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16767; Thu, 9 Feb 95 22:29:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcooW-00038FC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 22:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ben@lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu (Ben A. Fairbank) Subject: Pine for DOS machines? Date: 9 Feb 1995 21:32:08 GMT Message-Id: <3he1ko$j82@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> Status: O X-Status: I recently saw a reference for Pine for PCs. Is there a version for DOS-based machines, or is it only for UNIX and derivative machines? If it is available, where? Thanks for any answers. Ben Fairbank From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 9 23:53:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29946; Thu, 9 Feb 95 23:53:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17454; Thu, 9 Feb 95 23:29:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17448; Thu, 9 Feb 95 23:29:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcpkR-00038JC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 23:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Transferring Message Files? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:12:45 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: You should be able to ftp your folders from one account to the other. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > Date: Mon, 6 FEB 1995 09:24:41 -0500 (EST) > From: Mike Rollins > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Transferring Message Files? > > > I am in the process of changing service providers. > What I would like to do, is take my Pine read-mail file from > my current provider, and transfer it (using a different name) > to my new account, while keeping the individual messages in > usable condition as messages to which I can reply from within > Pine. What would be the best way for me to go about doing > this? Are there any specific problems that I should watch > out for? Is there a specifications file available, which I > could use as a template for any editing that I might be > required to do? All advise regarding this problem will be > most welcome! > > Mike Rollins > mr@world.std.com > mjr@conan.ids.net > Speaking only for myself. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 00:20:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00801; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:20:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18240; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:09:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18234; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:09:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcqO7-00038PC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ted Stern Subject: a nice pine icon for a dedicated PINE xterm Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 17:26:16 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2016125014-792379576=:29212" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2016125014-792379576=:29212 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi folks! I've figured out some nice tricks: 1) Here is a csh alias to bring up PINE in its own window (put it in your .cshrc): alias xpine "xterm -geometry 80x50+10+10 -n PINE -e /usr/local/bin/pine &" 2) I also looked into the WWW site for pine, http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ and retrieved the little pine.xbm file that is in there. I used xbmtopbm and pbmtoicon to convert this to an icon file which I have attached to this message ;). However, I can't manage one last thing: I want to use that little pine.icon I created with that special xterm! Does anyone know how to associate a particular icon with an xterm? If it matters, I am using mwm. Sorry this isn't really a pine question ... Thanks, -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ --0-2016125014-792379576=:29212 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="pine.icon" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: LyogRm9ybWF0X3ZlcnNpb249MSwgV2lkdGg9OTYsIEhlaWdodD02MCwgRGVw dGg9MSwgVmFsaWRfYml0c19wZXJfaXRlbT0xNg0KICovDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4 MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHhjMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAw MCwNCgkweDAwMDAsMHhjMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAw MCwweDAwMDEsMHhmMDAwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAw MCwweDAwMDEsMHhmMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDBm YywweDFlMDYsMHhjODAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwNywN CgkweDcwMDYsMHhjODAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMyww eGUwMDksMHhmNjAwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCww eDgwMGUsMHhmNjAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDdlLDB4MDAwMCww eDAwMDksMHhmOTAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDA3LDB4MDc4MCwNCgkw eDAwM2UsMHhjOTAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAxLDB4MWMwMCwweDAw MzcsMHhmNjAwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4ZTAwMCwweDAw NDksMHhjOTAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4YzAwMCwweDAw MzcsMHhmNmMwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDAx ZjksMHhjZjAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAyNGYs MHhmMWMwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwNzcs MHhjOGMwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAxZjcs MHhjZjAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDcwZjgsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDAyMzks MHhmNmMwLDB4MDAwMCwweDBmYzAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDFmZmYsMHhm ZTIwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDA3MDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDcxY2YsMHhm ZmMwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAyM2YsMHhj OTM4LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDAxZjksMHhm NmU0LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAzYmYsMHhmZWY4 LA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDBlN2YsMHhmOTA0 LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDFmZmYsMHhmMWUz LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDdkOGYsMHhmZmQ4 LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweGUyN2YsMHhmOWZmLA0K CTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAzZjcsMHhmN2M3LDB4 ODAwMCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDBjNzksMHhmOTM4LDB4 MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDczOGYsMHhmOGM3LDB4 ODAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMywweGZjN2YsMHhmZmUwLA0KCTB4 NzAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwNywweDgzZmYsMHhmOWZmLDB4MDAw MCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAxYywweDFmZjcsMHhmZmZiLDB4ZjAw MCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwNCgkweDBmYjksMHhmZjNmLDB4ZmZl MCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDczYzcsMHhmZmM3LA0KCTB4MDNm YywweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwMywweGZmZmYsMHhmMWZjLDB4ODAwMCww eDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAxZiwweDllMGYsMHhmZjFmLDB4ZjAwMCww eDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDBmYywNCgkweDcxZmYsMHhmOGZmLDB4OWUwMCww eDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDM4NywweGVmYmYsMHhmN2MzLA0KCTB4NzNmZSww eDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwNCwweGZmYzcsMHhmZmZmLDB4OGY4MywweDgw MDAsDQoJMHgwMDAwLDB4MDAwNywweGZmZmYsMHhmNzNmLDB4MDA2MCwweDAw MDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDA3ZiwNCgkweDdlM2YsMHhmZWU3LDB4ZmMwMCwweDAw MDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4MDc5ZiwweDgzY2YsMHhmZWZmLA0KCTB4ZmY4MCwweDAw MDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4M2ZlMCwweDFkZmYsMHhmZmZmLDB4MDFmMCwweDAwMDAs DQoJMHgwMDAxLDB4Zjg3YiwweGZkZmYsMHhmZmZmLDB4ZmY4MCwweDAwMDAs MHgwMDAwLDB4MDAxZiwNCgkweDllM2YsMHhmMWRmLDB4ZjNmYywweDAwMDAs MHgwMDAwLDB4MDNlNywweGUzZmYsMHhmOWZmLA0KCTB4OWU3ZSwweDAwMDAs MHgwMDAwLDB4MWZmOCwweDdmZmYsMHhmZmMwLDB4ZmZmZiwweGY4MDAsDQoJ MHgwMDAwLDB4M2M4MywweDhlN2YsMHhmZmZjLDB4MWMwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgw MDA3LDB4Yzc3YywNCgkweGZmY2YsMHhmZmZiLDB4ZTNlMCwweDAwMDAsMHgw MDBlLDB4MDM5ZiwweGZmYjcsMHhmZWZmLA0KCTB4MWUxYywweDAwMDAsMHgw MDAwLDB4M2ZlMywweGZmY2YsMHhmOWRmLDB4ODFmMywweDgwMDAsDQoJMHgw MDA3LDB4ZjgwNywweDgzZmYsMHhmOTA3LDB4ZTAwZiwweGYwMDAsMHgwMDNm LDB4MDA3YywNCgkweDAyNDcsMHhmOGRjLDB4ZjAwMCwweDNlMDAsMHgwMWMw LDB4MDBlMCwweDAwMDcsMHhmOGMwLA0KCTB4MWUwMCwweDAxYzAsMHgwMDAw LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDcsMHhmODAwLDB4MDM4MCwweDAwMDAsDQoJMHgwMDAw LDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDcsMHhmODAwLDB4MDA2MCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4 MDAwMCwNCgkweDAwMDcsMHhmODAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4 MDAwMCwweDAwMDcsMHhmODAwLA0KCTB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDAsMHgwMDAwLDB4 MDAwMCwweDAwMDcsMHhmODAwLDB4MDAwMCwweDAwMDANCg== --0-2016125014-792379576=:29212-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 00:24:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00901; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:24:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18150; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:18:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18144; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:18:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcqTU-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mary Susan Freeman Subject: Re: Sorting... Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 16:11:21 -0600 Message-Id: References: <3hdms9$dea@news.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hdms9$dea@news.umbc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 9 Feb 1995, Michele Decker wrote: > Thanks for all the input when I asked about threading. The sort by order > really makes a difference. Last question on this: Upon leaving a > newsgroup, that feature is lost. Is there a way of retaining the sorting > as a permanent feature? > > Thanks very much > > Michele > > **************************************************************************** > Michele Elisa Decker Academic Computing Department > michele@midget.towson.edu Towson State University > http://www.towson.edu/~michele Towson, Maryland . . > @ > O > > Dear Michele When you are in the main menu type s for setup. Request c for configuration. Somewhere in the configuration menu the is a sort menu. Choos whichever sort you want and it will be permanent. The only problem is that you'll get your mail the same way. SusanF. ***************************************************************************** Mary Susan Freeman P.O. Box 3140 University, MS 38677-3140 Phone: 601-562-7175 ecmsf@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu (leave a message) ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 01:09:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02080; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:09:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18860; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:58:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18854; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:58:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcr7B-00038QC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 00:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chermesh@techunix.technion.ac.il (Chermesh Ran) Subject: Replying a note from an 'Apparently from' address Date: Sun, 5 Feb 1995 12:56:04 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hi, i;ve received a note with the following header: Received: by moon.earthlink.net (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.2) id ; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:41 PST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:41 PST Apparently-From: oconnell@filaw.com To: chermesh Subject: Assistance X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) As you can see, the address is "apparantly" from oconnell@filaw.com. I tried to use the 'R' option on pine to answer, but this address wasn't recognized. Is there a way to solve this minor problem? Ran -- Ran Chermesh E - M A I L Behavioral Sciences Dept. =========== Ben-Gurion University Internet: CHERMESH@BGUVM.BGU.AC.IL Beer-Sheva 84105 CHERMESH@BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL Israel Bitnet : CHERMESH@BGUVM.BITNET Phone: 972-7-472-057 Fax: 972-7-232-766 URL: gopher://gopher.bgu.ac.il:70/00/Ben/res/hum/beh/CHERMESH%2c%20RAN From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 01:12:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02264; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:12:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19028; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:06:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19022; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:06:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcrEM-00038HC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s921666@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au (Seif Zadeh Hossein) Subject: How to get 'filter' do multiple actions on mails? Date: 10 Feb 1995 08:39:42 GMT Message-Id: <3hf8oe$p0b@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> Status: O X-Status: Hi there, Is anybody know how to get THE filter to use multiple rules on one mail? Maybe I should explain what I mean... I want filter to forward an incoming mail AND save it in a folder, according to the from section of the mail. I understand that I need to get filter to run a script and get the script to do what I just explained; but, does anybody know how to write the bloody script? I greatly appreciate if anyone could send me a copy of her/his script. Thanks in advance. ,-------------------------------------------------------------------------, | Hossein S. Zadeh | | | Dept of Aerospace Engineering | s921666@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au | | (YES! I AM a rocket scientist!!) | ZADEH@boomerang.aero.rmit.edu.au | | Royal Melb. Inst. of Tech (RMIT) | s921666@minyos.xx.rmit.edu.au | | Melbourne, Australia | | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Quote of the month: | | The secret to happiness is not doing what one likes, | | but liking what one has to do | '-------------------------------------------------------------------------' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 01:12:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02272; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:12:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18852; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:06:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18843; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:06:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcrDQ-00038LC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 01:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevew@gco.apana.org.au (Steven Williams) Subject: Mail bombs - how to avoid? Date: 8 Feb 1995 08:06:13 +1100 Message-Id: <3h8nc5$9nd@gco.apana.org.au> Status: O X-Status: Hi Everyone, I'm being constantly mail bomed, and would like to set up a function in pine to delete or return any mail sent to me from an address. I know about the .forward command, is there one for this sort of thing? Thanks in advance, Steven. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 03:26:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05530; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:26:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20509; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:11:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20503; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:11:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rctAP-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Douglas H. Quebbeman" Subject: Re: PINE Editor needs a SHELL facility In-Reply-To: <199502091643.LAA23866@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <199502091643.LAA23866@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 18:14:29 GMT Status: O X-Status: I'd like to thank everyone who informed me of the control-Z command, which, when used with the -z command line switch, allow me to shell out from PINE to the UNIX shell. It would be nice if this would work without having to invoke the POSTPONE command (Control-O) of which I was already aware, but I suppose I'll just have to get used to it, or jump back into EMACS (which I haven't used since 1982). -- -Douglas H. Quebbeman (dougq@iglou.com) "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 03:26:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05551; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:26:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20699; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:11:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20693; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:11:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rctBs-00038MC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Soergel Subject: Re: WWW on Pine? Date: 9 Feb 1995 06:05:40 GMT Message-Id: <3hcbbk$dgn@gap.cco.caltech.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Mary Susan Freeman wrote: > Can you get www on pine? No. In a text-based environment, use Lynx. In a graphical environment, use Netscape if you can, otherwise Mosaic. There are some other web browsers available too... Cello for example. The WWW is interactive; you move around in it in real time. Pine does only email and news. -David From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 03:44:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06053; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:44:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20828; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:36:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20822; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:36:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rctWp-00038LC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: messina@engin.umich.edu (Matt Messina) Subject: Re: problems with pico Date: 9 Feb 1995 06:36:02 GMT Message-Id: <3hcd4i$agh@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> References: <9501312100.AA25212@alleg.EDU> Status: O X-Status: Liam Relihan wrote: )luomat@alleg.EDU (Timothy J Luoma) writes: >>pico insists on wrapping what IT arrogantly calls "overlong" lines. >>This is a problem when dealing with lines of my incredibly ugly code >>that relies on "overlong" lines. >> >>Is there any way to fix/prevent this (or another editor I can use >>which doesn't do this)? > >Invoke pico with the "-w" option. Wrong. Did you try this? The "-w" option turns off word wrap (automatically moving words to the next line when you get the end of a line). It has no effect on what Pico thinks are lines that are too long. Try editing your .newsrc (which often has long lines) with Pico and you'll see it divide the long lines. -- Matt Messina messina@umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 04:14:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07488; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:14:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21659; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:06:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21653; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:06:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcu0E-00038OC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 03:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yrhee1@osf1.gmu.edu (Yong-Rim Rhee) Subject: Blinking letters? Date: 10 Feb 1995 00:54:03 GMT Message-Id: <3hedfb$8bh@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: O X-Status: I just received an email from a friend asking me how I could type in bliking letter on the subject line. I sure as hell don't know and didn't even know it was possible. I've seen some people post an article with weird characters (those extended-ascii) and I would like to know how I can do this. Any help would be appreciated. Please email Yongrim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 04:15:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07550; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:15:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21471; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:06:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21465; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:06:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcu1I-00038PC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 04:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Arsch Loch Subject: Re: your mail Date: Thu, 2 Feb 1995 17:43:10 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 1 Feb 1995, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Wed, 1 Feb 1995, Marc Blanchard wrote: >=20 > > how do you enter foreign language characters into pine? anyone out ther= e=20 > > knows? meb >=20 > =09Well, for Chinese text I run pine in cxterm and then just enter > the text as a would in a text editor such as celvis (a vi clone with > 2-Byte support). Works fine... Here in Z=FCrich, Switzerland, I type the foreign language of English on the native Swiss-German keyboard. If I were to want to write in one of the native languages, like in German to describe the F=F6hn that one has at times in the Alps, the keys for characters such as =E4 and =F6 and =FC a= re readily available on the keyboard. Or if I were to write in French, those keys =E0 and =E9 and =E8 are also there. And there are dead-keys for the ^= and ` and umlaut to allow me to type =F4 and =C4 and =EC and so on. And I have= keys for =E7 and =A3 and =B0 as well. Not only does this keyboard have the keys for the characters I need, but the communications program I use generates the correct 8-bit codes for these characters to match the ISO 8859-1 character set which I've specified on the configuration screen, last screen. So how do I type these native characters not normally used for English words? Very well and conveniently, thank you. Barry Bouwsma, visiting Z=FCrich, Switzerland after a five hour bike ride from St Gallen just so I could post this message, so now I go back From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 05:38:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09338; Fri, 10 Feb 95 05:38:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22645; Fri, 10 Feb 95 05:25:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22639; Fri, 10 Feb 95 05:25:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcvHj-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 05:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Rollins Subject: Transferring Message Files? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:24:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am in the process of changing service providers. What I would like to do, is take my Pine read-mail file from my current provider, and transfer it (using a different name) to my new account, while keeping the individual messages in usable condition as messages to which I can reply from within Pine. What would be the best way for me to go about doing this? Are there any specific problems that I should watch out for? Is there a specifications file available, which I could use as a template for any editing that I might be required to do? All advise regarding this problem will be most welcome! Mike Rollins mr@world.std.com mjr@conan.ids.net Speaking only for myself. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 08:34:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14108; Fri, 10 Feb 95 08:34:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25477; Fri, 10 Feb 95 08:25:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25471; Fri, 10 Feb 95 08:25:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcxzx-00038LC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 08:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: helen ruth etters Subject: Help forwarding mailbox Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 10:04:47 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I've created a pine alias called "majors" which contains the email addresses of all the students who major in our department. I want to give this list to the chair of our department, without his having to type in all the names/addresses again. How can I send this addressbook entry to him in such a way that he could use it without having to retype it? @ @ Thanks, @ @ @ @ | @ | @ @ | @ | @ | @ \|/\|/\|/\|/\|/ Helen Etters \|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/\|/ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 09:33:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17865; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:33:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26722; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:15:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26716; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:15:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rcytG-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Configurable reply to "Reply-to:" Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 15:27:08 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3gr737$e6i@grape.epix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3gr737$e6i@grape.epix.net> Status: O X-Status: On 2 Feb 1995, Jonathan & DearOldDad from the Pocono Mountains wrote: > Barry Landy (bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk) wrote: > : One of my users (and I agree with him!) has complained that it is both > : annoying and wrong that Pine insists on asking "Do you want to reply to > : Reply-to:" as that is what reply-to is for, and it is bad manners to > : reply anywhere else. > : I also understand that this may well be a contentious issue, so what I am > : asking for is a config option "Always use Reply-to in reply". > > Replys are normally sent to the 'From' address, unless there is a > different 'Reply To' in the incoming message., in which case you are > given the option of either replying to the 'Reply To' or to the 'From' > (which is usually the author). > > The default answer 'Y' (yes) at the prompt, sends to the 'Reply To' > address. Thank you for the explanation of what I clearly well knew already! > Unless your setup works different from mine, you don't get > asked that option unless there is a different 'Reply To' in the > incomming, so the situation only occurs maybe 5 or 10% of the time. Our establishment is different to yours, in that lots of people have reply-to set, as our standard email address is @cam.ac.uk, whereas the sending domain & id will be @domain.cam.ac.uk It is usually a mistake to extrapolate from local knowledge and assume it applies widely. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 10:09:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20254; Fri, 10 Feb 95 10:09:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27876; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:55:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27870; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:55:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rczOq-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:44 PST Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 95 09:44 PST From: pine-list-owner@psg.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 11:05:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23787; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:05:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29141; Fri, 10 Feb 95 10:56:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29135; Fri, 10 Feb 95 10:56:39 -0800 Received: (from corrigan@localhost) on tty2si3 by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA05590; Fri, 10 Feb 1995 10:56:36 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 10:56:36 -0800 From: "Michael J. Corrigan" Message-Id: <199502101856.KAA05590@weber.ucsd.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pc pine under windows 3.1 + wfwg 3.11 + ms tcp-ip + win32s->GPF Status: O X-Status: That's my configuation. PC pine doesn't work - it dies during startup with a general protection fault. I installed it in the right place. Has anyone got it working with this configuration ? I'd appreciate hearing about it if so - or if not. The machine is a DELL pentium. Thanks -mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 11:34:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25596; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:34:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00369; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:26:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00354; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:26:43 -0800 Received: by narwhal.cc.metu.edu.tr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA76763; Fri, 10 Feb 1995 14:54:17 +0300 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 14:54:17 +0300 (MEST) From: Murat BICER {KIO} X-Sender: e102260@narwhal To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: auto mail Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: can you help me how can i generate an auto mail for example for all mails subjected chess i ll send them a catalog automaticly how can i do this thanks lin advance x Murat BICER MasterMinds From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 11:35:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25753; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:35:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00327; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:25:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00321; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:25:32 -0800 Received: from ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22863; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:25:30 -0800 Received: by ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA16861; Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:21:06 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:21:06 -0800 (PST) From: LAURA DELUCIA To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: incoming folders Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am trying to enable incoming folders so that all the mail I receive from various machines will come to just one machine (I also don't have any mail filtering programs, and use the different accounts for primitive filtering). I "enabled incoming folders" with the config program, and then tried to "Add" a new incoming folder. When it asked me what server my other inbox is at, I typed in ca0286, or on another attempt, the more complete address of ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov. Then, although I wasn't sure exactly what it was looking for when it wanted the name of the folder my incoming mail would be at, I typed in /var/spool/mail/ldelucia (the default file for sendmail). However, Pine came back with "Can't connect to server ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov,143:" Connection refused, and Can't access server. Did I do something wrong, or is Pine appending the ,143 onto my address, therefore making it invalid? On another more trivial note, is there any way to enable the keyboard keys of home, end, backspace, etc.? TIA :-) ---------------------------------- Laura DeLucia ldelucia@ca0285.caso.ca.blm.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 11:53:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27026; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:53:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00456; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:41:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00445; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:40:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd1AC-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 11:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hirshaut@yu1.yu.edu Subject: Directing Unix Mail to Specific Printer Message-Id: Date: 6 Feb 95 15:54:18 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am connected to the university, unix-based, computer via a terminal emulating VT-100 and a modem. Attached to my terminal is a printer. How to I direct unix to print pine mail on my printer rather than the default printer? Any help is appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 13:39:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02984; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:39:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03233; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:26:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03227; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:26:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd2mN-00038JC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nelsonp@gbms01.uwgb.edu (Philip nelson) Subject: How does Pine update the INBOX Date: 7 Feb 1995 15:49:06 GMT Message-Id: <3h84pi$fo0@athena.athenet.net> Status: O X-Status: I am having problems with winsock Pine that might be related to updating the INBOX. Randomly Pine will hang up with an asterisk in the upper left corner. The windows style menus will still work except for Exit but none of the keyboard commands will work. Restarting windows is the only way get Pine back up. My current theory is that Pine is trying to update the contents of the INBOX from our VMS IMAP server. I've noticed that the INBOX is never updated. Must you expunge delted messages first? How is this supposed to work? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 13:54:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03702; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:54:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03859; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:36:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03853; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:36:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd2sp-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: timc@amersham.co.uk (Tim Clymo) Subject: Compiling under HP-UX 9.04 Date: 9 Feb 1995 18:05:42 -0000 Message-Id: <3hdlhm$1kt@beaver.inet.amersham.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: Having downloaded the source for Pine-3.91 from the Liverpool archive, I find I am unable to compile it properly on a 9000 817 running HP-UX 9.04. Make falls over when attempting to compile display.c in the Pico directory and I get the message: Signal 11: segmentation violation. I have tried dropping the optimisation level, but to no avail. Any suggestions gratefully received Thanks Tim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 14:19:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04604; Fri, 10 Feb 95 14:19:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04276; Fri, 10 Feb 95 14:06:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04270; Fri, 10 Feb 95 14:06:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd3Mq-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 13:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Incoming Folders List Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 14:00:58 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: You can specify aliases for the incoming folders in the Setup/Config screen. Here are some examples: incoming-folders=Beth /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth, dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw, "S.P." /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp, "This is the 'DS' folder" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds, "Not Piglet" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 5 Feb 1995, Brad wrote: > Date: Sun, 5 FEB 1995 23:21:34 +0000 > From: Brad > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Incoming Folders List > > Is there any way to get the Incoming Folders list to show just the > folder names (not the full pathnames)? i.e. a bit more tidily than: > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Incoming Message Folders > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > inbox /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth > /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp > /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet > > Thanks for any help you can give! > > ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! > / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk > \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk > <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 16:02:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08760; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:02:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07140; Fri, 10 Feb 95 15:57:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.mhcc.cc.or.us by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07134; Fri, 10 Feb 95 15:57:42 -0800 Received: by alpha.mhcc.cc.or.us; (5.65/1.1.8.2/28Sep94-0205PM) id AA11554; Fri, 10 Feb 1995 16:01:02 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 16:01:02 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Moore To: pine Subject: Config. for Local News groups Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have tried repeatedly to setup Pine v3.90 to access local news groups on my DEC AlphaAXP system running OSF/1 v2.0. If the * is in the News Collections entry, I see nothing and can subscribe to nothing. If I leave out the * then I see folder collections in that directory, but then anybody can add and delete messages from those folders if they configure News Collections the same way. Am I missing something here? I am not using NNTP (these are supposed to be local news collections). Or perhaps am I not setting up the files and/or directories correctly. The News Collection entry I am trying to use is: MHCC-News */usr/news[] Any help or clarification on this would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Moore Internet: jeff@mhcc.cc.or.us Network Specialist (503) 669-6929 (Voice) Mt Hood Community College (503) 492-6006 (FAX) Gresham, Oregon (Portland area) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 16:21:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09470; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:21:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07513; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:15:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07507; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:15:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd5GR-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "W F (Will) Sill" Subject: NEWSGROUP postings to INBOX??? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 18:44:35 -0500 Message-Id: References: <1995Feb4.092721.15071@linkoping.trab.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: When I SUBSCRIBE to a NEWSGROUP in PINE, should I not expect to see posting to that group in my PINE INBOX? Will@epix.net - the unofficial Mayor of Sill Hill From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 16:39:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11012; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:39:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07548; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:32:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07542; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:32:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd5a1-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 16:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yount@seas.smu.edu (Marshall C. Yount) Subject: Pine for ignorant knaves Date: 6 Feb 1995 22:45:34 GMT Message-Id: <3h68qe$4r0@giant.seas.smu.edu> Status: O X-Status: (apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere, I couldn't find one) I am attempting to assemble a list of resources (essentially a stack of manuals) for new 'Net users at my school. While I can usually find what I want in a man page, the people I am putting this together for are pretty inexperienced with computers and rather frightened of Unix, in particular. I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find some simple, easy to read/understand/decypher documents/manuals about Pine (or using FTP, WWW, Gopher, Archie, UseNet etc.). Anyway, if someone could help me find such a file (if it exists), I would be eternally grateful (well, maybe not *eternally*, but at least for five minutes)... Thanks -- -- "Heck I reckon you wouldn't be human beings | yount@seas.smu.edu if you didn't have some pretty strong | MarshallfnordYount feelings about nuclear combat." \------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 17:27:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13742; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:27:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09204; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:21:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09198; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:21:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd6NP-00038LC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: street@phantom.com (sound) Subject: Don't want mailing list in message Date: 4 Feb 1995 04:29:20 GMT Message-Id: <3guvr0$t0c@dockmaster.phantom.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the list. Thank you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 17:49:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14415; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:49:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09224; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:42:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09217; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:42:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd6la-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mary Susan Freeman Subject: WWW on Pine? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 17:53:49 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can you get www on pine? Susan F. ***************************************************************************** Mary Susan Freeman P.O. Box 3140 University, MS 38677-3140 Phone: 601-562-7175 ecmsf@cypress.mcsr.olemiss.edu (leave a message) ****************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 17:59:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14634; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:59:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09757; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:52:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09751; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:52:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd6rj-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 17:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: galt@csulb.edu (Charles Galt) Subject: Re: several Pine suggestions Date: 7 Feb 1995 01:22:01 GMT Message-Id: <3h6hvp$53c@garuda.csulb.edu> References: <3g0pds$r9c@hobbes.cc.uga.edu> Status: O X-Status: I'd like to request that when I list folders in pine there be a number with each folder name indicating the number of messages contained in each folder. I know I've asked for this some time ago but maybe it's more feasible now?... thanks |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Charles Galt, Professor Tel: 310-985-4808 | | Department of Biological Sciences Fax: 310-985-2315 | | California State University Internet: galt@csulb.edu | | 1250 Bellflower Boulevard Finger: galt@tern.csulb.edu | | Long Beach, CA 90840-3702, USA | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 20:23:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18050; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:23:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11696; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:17:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11690; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:17:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd9Ak-00038RC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Can you import text files to Pine??? Message-Id: Date: 9 Feb 95 13:38:40 GMT References: <3hatiu$53n@news.compulink.com> Status: O X-Status: mdharris@cml.com () writes: >Hi! >I am rather new to pine. Since I am using a commerical server, I only >get limited on-line time. Does anyone know if there is a way to >pre-compose messages offline (using a text editor) and then import them >to pine? It would save a lot of my on-line time. You can either upload the file directly into the editor using an ascii send function in you comm program, or you could upload the file before entering pine, then use the ^R (Read File) command in pico. >Thanks >mdharris@cml.com > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > : ComputerLink Online Inc. 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Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 20:23:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18074; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:23:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11410; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:17:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11404; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:17:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rd98J-00038QC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 20:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdharris@cml.com Subject: Can you import text files to Pine??? Message-Id: <3hatiu$53n@news.compulink.com> Date: 8 Feb 95 17:04:30 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi! I am rather new to pine. Since I am using a commerical server, I only get limited on-line time. Does anyone know if there is a way to pre-compose messages offline (using a text editor) and then import them to pine? It would save a lot of my on-line time. Thanks mdharris@cml.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- : ComputerLink Online Inc. Realms of Despair! : : (416)233-5410 telnet mud.compulink.com 4000 : : 106 lines, 300-28,800 bps endless medieval enjoyment! : : : : Join our International Teleconference --> chat.compulink.com 9000 : --------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 10 23:49:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21809; Fri, 10 Feb 95 23:49:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13882; Fri, 10 Feb 95 23:32:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13876; Fri, 10 Feb 95 23:32:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdC9h-00038FC; Fri, 10 Feb 95 23:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Smith Subject: Return Receipt Function? Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 13:28:51 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am sending e-mail to Indonesia, and the connection is questionable, so is there a way to get a return receipt on mail so that I know it got there? TIA -- ***Michael Smith***mksmith@u.washington.edu*** PGP Key available via anonymous ftp at: ftp.u.washington.edu public/mksmith/PGPKey.asc or: finger mksmith@stein.u.washington.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 00:41:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23025; Sat, 11 Feb 95 00:41:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14672; Sat, 11 Feb 95 00:24:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14666; Sat, 11 Feb 95 00:24:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdD07-00038JC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 00:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) Subject: Re: No Threading? Message-Id: Date: 9 Feb 95 17:55:24 GMT References: <3hbfin$nl3@news.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: In ordered subject, the subjects are sorted by the date of the first message with each subject. In plain subject, they are alphabetic... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 9 Feb 1995, Dave Saville wrote: > Date: Thu, 9 FEB 1995 12:39:59 +0000 > From: Dave Saville > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: No Threading? > > On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > Pine does not quite have threading, but the OreeredSubject sort gets close... > > > I have never got the hang of the difference between sort by subject and > ordered subject - can someone enlighten me please? > > David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com > Geco-Prakla, Schlumberger House, Buckingham Gate, > Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326 > Happiness is a binary state. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 01:18:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24030; Sat, 11 Feb 95 01:18:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15041; Sat, 11 Feb 95 01:04:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15035; Sat, 11 Feb 95 01:04:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdDf9-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 00:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: geos@cais2.cais.com (George Stephens) Subject: How to make Pine show headers and exit? Date: 10 Feb 1995 18:06:07 GMT Message-Id: <3hg9uf$gj6@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: When I login I would like to have Pine 3.91 display the header list of my current mail then exit automaticly. How can this be done? I can easily enter the index and see the headers using -i, but it will not exit on its own. If I try the inputed characters feature like so: -Ii,q to force it to go to the index page and then quit it will pop up a message saying its processing the 'keystokes' and then quits. The header list in the index page *never* gets displayed. Trying variations like '-i -Iq' didnt work either. So how can I get the mail header list displayed and have it exit on its own? I'm trying to use this in my .login script using tcsh. Thanks for your help! George S. -- *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* | I don't need no disclaimer... '&` George M. Stephens | | It's my own account! ***-( (geos@cais.com) | | *-*-*-*->Please be patient. .sig under construction.<-*-*-*-* | *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 02:49:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25921; Sat, 11 Feb 95 02:49:42 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16372; Sat, 11 Feb 95 02:39:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16366; Sat, 11 Feb 95 02:39:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdF9n-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 02:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edog@oeonline.com (Edward Morykwas) Subject: Apple IMAGEWRITER--How do I print? Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 21:31:36 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I'm using an Imagewriter II with an Apple IIgs. I've tried the various configurations, but nothing works. I would love to be able to print my mail on paper... but how? E-mail replies, please. Many thanks! -- Edward Morykwas edog@oeonline.com Troy, Michigan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 03:50:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27320; Sat, 11 Feb 95 03:50:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16946; Sat, 11 Feb 95 03:40:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16940; Sat, 11 Feb 95 03:40:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdG2N-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 03:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jace Crouch Subject: Re: Don't want mailing list in message Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 03:02:06 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3guvr0$t0c@dockmaster.phantom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3guvr0$t0c@dockmaster.phantom.com> Status: O X-Status: On 4 Feb 1995, sound wrote: > Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or > Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the > list. Thank you. > While in the header, type ^r (rich header) and use the Bcc field. Send the message to yourself using an alias that will help you keep track of who gets what. Since I usually do this when I send messages to students, I use the course number as the nickname, the course name and term date as the full name, and my address as the address. Such an alias makes record keeping a bit easier. Jace From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 05:40:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00262; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:40:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18486; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:30:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18480; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:30:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdHrK-00038MC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lchompoo@netserv.chula.ac.th (Chompoonut Lohitanon) Subject: Re: testing Message-Id: <3hfqoi$rei@enterprise.netserv.chula.ac.th> Date: 10 Feb 95 13:46:58 GMT References: Status: O X-Status: D Kenstavicius (92004010@lambton.on.ca) wrote: : teasing From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 05:40:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00284; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:40:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18594; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:30:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18588; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:30:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdHop-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 05:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: How to make Pine show headers and exit? Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 13:16:39 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hg9uf$gj6@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: How about: cat /usr/spool/mail/geos |grep ^From |page Should do the trick, and should also be a lot faster than loading up Pine just to see what new mail you have! Oh, if you want to see the subject, you could always use: cat /usr/spool/mail/geos |egrep '^From|^Subject' |page ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ On 10 Feb 1995, George Stephens wrote: > When I login I would like to have Pine 3.91 display the header list of my > current mail then exit automaticly. How can this be done? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 06:51:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01500; Sat, 11 Feb 95 06:51:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19518; Sat, 11 Feb 95 06:41:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19512; Sat, 11 Feb 95 06:41:15 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:40:53 -0800 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 22:40:53 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Seif Zadeh Hossein Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to get 'filter' do multiple actions on mails? In-Reply-To: <3hf8oe$p0b@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 10 Feb 1995, Seif Zadeh Hossein wrote: > Hi there, > Is anybody know how to get THE filter to use multiple rules on one mail? > Maybe I should explain what I mean... I want filter to forward an > incoming mail AND save it in a folder, according to the from section of > the mail. > I understand that I need to get filter to run a script and get the script > to do what I just explained; but, does anybody know how to write the > bloody script? By "THE" filter I suspect you mean 'filter' from elm. Well, you can't have that with the elm filter. You need to switch to procmail. Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 07:10:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01851; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:10:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19735; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:00:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19729; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:00:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdJFB-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 06:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu (Supak Lailert) Subject: Re: incoming folders Date: 11 Feb 1995 06:13:50 GMT Message-Id: <3hhkiu$a4t@gondor.sdsu.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: LAURA DELUCIA (ldelucia@ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov) wrote: : I am trying to enable incoming folders so that all the mail I receive from : various machines will come to just one machine (I also don't have any mail : filtering programs, and use the different accounts for primitive : filtering). : I "enabled incoming folders" with the config program, and then tried to : "Add" a new incoming folder. When it asked me what server my other inbox : is at, I typed in ca0286, or on another attempt, the more complete address : of ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov. Then, although I wasn't sure exactly what it : was looking for when it wanted the name of the folder my incoming mail : would be at, I typed in /var/spool/mail/ldelucia (the default file for : sendmail). However, Pine came back with "Can't connect to server : ca0286.caso.ca.blm.gov,143:" Connection refused, and Can't access server. You'll need imapd on those machines. I think what you should do is to forward all mail to this machine and get procmail. Easy to setup, no need to be root to install. Regards, Supak Lailert -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Supak Lailert -- MBA (IS) Program, San Diego State University >> >> >> >> lailert@rohan.sdsu.edu >> >> lailert@aol.com >> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 07:39:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02324; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:39:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19959; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:30:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19953; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:30:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdJio-00038MC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 07:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jywong@abalone.ucsb.edu (Joyce Y. Wong) Subject: Pine available for x windows? Message-Id: <3he2rn$oik@abalone.ucsb.edu> Date: 9 Feb 95 21:52:55 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is pine available via anonymous ftp for x windows? thanks jywong@squid.ucsb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 08:54:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03798; Sat, 11 Feb 95 08:54:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21086; Sat, 11 Feb 95 08:45:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu4.psi.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21080; Sat, 11 Feb 95 08:45:24 -0800 Received: from msi.UUCP by uu4.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.071791-PSI/PSINet) via UUCP; id AA13999 for ; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:43:05 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 08:28:01 -0800 (PST) From: Knute Snortum To: Pine Information Discussion Group Subject: wpine: script to allow Wyse arrow keys Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-16838-792520081=:16092" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-16838-792520081=:16092 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There was a dumb little mistake in my "wpine" script: it had an absolute path when it called pine which is not necessary. Originally I had called the script "pine" and put it higher in the path than the binary pine, so I had to call it explicitly. But my system remembers the last place it executes a file from, so the first time I invoked "pine" I got the script, but the second time I got the binary. So I just renamed my script "wpine" but forgot to take out the absolute path. It's easy to edit the script, but I thought I'd repost them. --- Knute Snortum Internet: knute@msi.masi.com MAS Inc. Compuserve: 72144,1646 ---559023410-16838-792520081=:16092 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=wpine Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3cGluZSAtIG1ha2UgYXJyb3cgKGFuZCBvdGhlcikga2V5cyB3b3Jr IGluIHBpbmUgb24gV3lzZS10eXBlIHRlcm1pbmFscw0KIw0KDQp0cmFwIHd5 c2UucGluZS5yZXNldCAwIDEgMiAzIDE1DQp3eXNlLnBpbmUuc2V0dXANCnBp bmUNCg== ---559023410-16838-792520081=:16092 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="wyse.pine.setup" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3eXNlLnBpbmUuc2V0dXAgLSBTZXR1cCBzb21lIGtleXMgb24gYSBX eXNlIHRlcm1pbmFsIHRvIHdvcmsgaW4gcGluZQ0KIw0KDQplY2hvICJcblNl dHRpbmcgdXAgV3lzZSBhcnJvdyBhbmQgZnVuY3Rpb24ga2V5cy4uLiINCg0K IyBOZXh0L1ByZXYgUGFnZQ0KDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjFyIFwwMTc3XGMiDQpl Y2hvICJcMDMzWjF3LVwwMTc3XGMiDQoNCiMgQ2hhci9MaW5lIGRlbGV0ZQ0K DQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjE1XDA0XDAxNzdcYyINCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMTZcMDEz XDAxNzdcYyINCg0KIyBBcnJvdyBrZXlzDQoNCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMStcMDMz W0FcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxLFwwMzNbQlwwMTc3XGMiDQplY2hv ICJcMDMzWjEuXDAzM1tDXDAxNzdcYyINCmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMS1cMDMzW0Rc MDE3N1xjIg0KDQplY2hvICJEb25lXG4iDQo= ---559023410-16838-792520081=:16092 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="wyse.pine.reset" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Iw0KIyB3eXNlLnBpbmUucmVzZXQgLSBSZXNldCBzdGFuZGFyZCBXeXNlIGtl eXMNCiMNCg0KZWNobyAiXG5SZXNldHRpbmcgc3RhbmRhcmQgV3lzZSBhcnJv dy9mdW5jdGlvbiBrZXlzLi4uIg0KDQojIE5leHQvUHJldiBQYWdlDQoNCmVj aG8gIlwwMzNaMXJcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxd1wwMTc3XGMiDQoN CiMgQ2hhci9MaW5lIGRlbGV0ZQ0KDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjE1XDAxNzdcYyIN CmVjaG8gIlwwMzNaMTZcMDE3N1xjIg0KDQojIEFycm93IGtleXMNCg0KZWNo byAiXDAzM1oxK1wwMTc3XGMiDQplY2hvICJcMDMzWjEuXDAxNzdcYyINCmVj aG8gIlwwMzNaMSxcMDE3N1xjIg0KZWNobyAiXDAzM1oxLVwwMTc3XGMiDQoN CmVjaG8gIkRvbmUuXG4iDQo= ---559023410-16838-792520081=:16092-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 11:17:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06774; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:17:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22965; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:08:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from camco.celestial.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22959; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:08:38 -0800 Received: from raindrop by camco.celestial.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0rdNDS-0001HCC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:10 PST Received: by raindrop.seaslug.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA19067; Sat, 11 Feb 95 10:13:23 PST Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 10:13:21 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Unger To: Veli Pajula Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Win_Pine 3.90 and GPF In-Reply-To: <36c2d8$boq@rannanjarvi.sjoki.uta.fi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A while ago you reported getting a GPF in pine. I'm trying to track down this bug and am looking for people who can reproduce it and would be willing to run a test and send me the result. If so, please download a new test version of pine in ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine/Private/pine0207.zip (You won't be able to read the list of lines in Private, but if you cd there you will be able to get pine0207.zip by name). Run this with Dr Watson and send me the resulting log. You should find Dr Watson in your windows directory called drwatson.exe. Run drwatson first, then pine. When pine produces a GPF, Dr Watson will ask you to describe what you were doing. Then, find the report in drwatson.log and mail it to me. Thanks, Thomas Unger Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington, Seattle On 28 Sep 1994, Veli Pajula wrote: > > Hi ! > > When I try run winsock version of Pine I got GPF > in module PINE.EXE at 000D:D677. > > What could be wrong ? > > Unix version working... > > Thanks > -- > Veli Pajula > email: vmp@sthol.fi or vmp@axil.sjoki.uta.fi > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 11:35:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07146; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:35:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23215; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:27:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23209; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:27:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdNGj-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: render@massive.uccs.edu (Hal Render) Subject: Re: Full Domain Name in 'From:' field Date: 11 Feb 1995 02:04:30 GMT Message-Id: <3hh5ve$sjm@harpo.uccs.edu> References: <3hag47$p1h@hopi.dtcc.edu> Status: O X-Status: FWIW, I ended up doing a "gross kludge" on this. The routine that sets the return addresses in pine (for both mail and news) is getdomainnames(), defined in the file pine/osdep/domnames. The original function checks to see if there is a local domain name attached to the host name, but if there isn't it simply uses the hostname as both the FQDN and the local domain name. I solved this by tacking on local domain name onto the hostname. This is the only "simple" solution I could see (there's probably a preferred way to get the full domain name from someplace other that gethostname(), but I don't know what it is). What pine could do is allow the user to define a constant set to the local domain and put the code below in an #ifdef-#endif Anyway, here is the diff (replace "uccs.edu" with your local domain name): pine/osdep/domnames 47c47,48 < strncpy(domainname, hostname, dsize-1); --- > strcat(hostname, ".uccs.edu"); > strcpy(domainname, "uccs.edu"); -- hal render univ. of colorado at colorado springs render@massive.uccs.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 11:46:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07362; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:46:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23085; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:35:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23078; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:35:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdNT9-00038PC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access4.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Re: PINE Return Receipt - HOW? Date: 10 Feb 1995 13:58:40 GMT Message-Id: <3hfreg$k68@news1.digex.net> References: <3gr2lc$dhi@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> Status: O X-Status: R.G. (rgittis@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com) wrote: : I would like to know if PINE 3.91 has the capability to request a return : receipt from the person that the message is addressed to. It would be : nice to receive some sort of acknowledgement that your message did reach : its destination. If anybody knows of how we would be able to do this, : please inform. Thank you. In the Pine settings for optional headers, add the undocumented sendmail header 'Return-Receipt-To' and use the ^R command in the message header area and insert your address there. I recommend *not* setting any value in the header; otherwise next time you write to a mailing list you will receive hundreds of return receipts. This is not an "official" header under the RFCs but many mailing systems do honor it, same as the 'Errors-To:' header which is also non-standard. -- Ask me about Listmgr - the first PC-Based mailing list manager for E-Mail. Reports on Security Problems: To Subscribe write PROBLEMS-REQUEST@TDR.COM Paul Robinson - paul@tdr.com / tdarcos@MCIMail.com / tdarcos@access.digex.net Voted "Largest Polluter of the (IETF) list" by Randy Bush From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 11:54:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07555; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:54:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23481; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:45:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23475; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:45:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdNea-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: johnson@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu (Bryan W. Johnson) Subject: Re: Don't want mailing list in message Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:36:20 GMT References: <3guvr0$t0c@dockmaster.phantom.com> Status: O X-Status: sound (street@phantom.com) wrote: > Is there a way to keep the whole mailing list from appearing in the To or > Cc fields, i.e. I don't want the mailing list to appear to every on the > list. Thank you. Hit ^R while in the header for 'Rich Header'. This will give you about 4 more fields in the header. You want to use the Bcc field (bliind carbon copy). It'll do exactly what you're looking for. But, you'll still have to use one address at the top of the message. I usually just send the message to myself and have my mailing list in the Bcc field... [[========================================================================]] [[ Bryan Johnson Arizona State University ]] [[ email: bryanj@asu.edu URL: http://enuxsa.eas.asu.edu/~johnson ]] [[ "When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if ]] [[ they ever press charges." - Jack Handey ]] [[========================================================================]] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:14:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08109; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:14:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23785; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:05:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23779; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:05:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdO1d-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Master of Wonder) Subject: ispell as replacement for spell?? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 18:11:05 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to use ispell as a replacement for spell (within pine/pico)? If so, what options are best? If not, where can I ftp a copy of spell please?? Thanks in advance!!! - Andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:14:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08131; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:14:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23535; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:05:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23529; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:05:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdO1b-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mccreed@ibm.net (Richard McCreedy) Subject: PC-Pine Version for OS/2 DOS Session Date: 10 Feb 1995 04:35:31 GMT Message-Id: <3heqej$9b4@news-s01.ca.us.ibm.net> Status: O X-Status: This wouldn't be like having a "real" OS/2 version of Pine, but as a second-best: how difficult would it be to compile a version of PC-Pine that ran with IBM's TCP/IP for DOS 2.1? That would allow it to run in an OS/2 DOS window using either the internet access kit in Warp, or the DOS/Windows access kit for OS/2 2.1. Lacking an OS/2 Pine, I'd rather run a DOS app than load Windows just to read mail. And, if I'm going to use a DOS version, I'd rather it use OS/2's TCP/IP stack since it's already available. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:17:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08203; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:17:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23865; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:09:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from camco.celestial.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23859; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:09:49 -0800 Received: from raindrop by camco.celestial.com with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0rdOAe-000186C; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:11 PST Received: by raindrop.seaslug.org (4.1/smail2.5/05-07-92) id AA19193; Sat, 11 Feb 95 11:52:03 PST Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 11:52:02 -0800 (PST) From: Thomas Unger To: "D.Buitenhek" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Gen. Prot. Fault with Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: A while ago you reported getting a GPF in pine. I'm trying to track down this bug and am looking for people who can reproduce it and would be willing to run a test and send me the result. If so, please download a new test version of pine in ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine/Private/pine0207.zip (You won't be able to read the list of lines in Private, but if you cd there you will be able to get pine0207.zip by name). Run this with Dr Watson and send me the resulting log. You should find Dr Watson in your windows directory called drwatson.exe. Run drwatson first, then pine. When pine produces a GPF, Dr Watson will ask you to describe what you were doing. Then, find the report in drwatson.log and mail it to me. Thanks, Thomas Unger Networks and Distributed Computing University of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 12 Jan 1995, D.Buitenhek wrote: > I have installed PINE 3.91 on a my PC. Sometimes it is possible to start PINE > but mostly it stops after input of my passwd. > The error message is "Pine Caused a General Protection Fault in the module > PINE.EXE at 0008:B600. > The same error exist when I start to config PINE from PIne] > > Is there a solution for this problem? > > D. Buitenhek > > D.Buitenhek@wbmt.tudelft.nl > University of Delft > Department Mechanical Engeneering > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:35:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08550; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:35:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24133; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24127; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdOJB-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: Blinking letters? Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:16:21 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3hedfb$8bh@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hedfb$8bh@portal.gmu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 10 Feb 1995, Yong-Rim Rhee wrote: > I just received an email from a friend asking me how I could type in bliking > letter on the subject line. I sure as hell don't know and didn't even know it > was possible. I've seen some people post an article with weird characters > (those extended-ascii) and I would like to know how I can do this. Any help > would be appreciated. Please email Yes it IS possible to put escape sequences into almost anything. The question is if one SHOULD. Most often they only work for a certain combination of software & hardware. Sending an odd escape sequence to an unknown setup could screw their session window or worse. Of course it MIGHT actually work. Not advised practice. David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Geco-Prakla, Schlumberger House, Buckingham Gate, Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326 Happiness is a binary state. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:35:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08572; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:35:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23861; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23855; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdOJD-00038MC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: helen ruth etters Subject: Help forwarding addresses Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 23:27:30 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: I've created a pine alias called "majors" which contains the email addresses of all the students who major in our department. I want to give this list to the chair of our department, without his having to type in all the names/addresses again. How can I send this addressbook entry to him in such a way that he could use it without having to retype it? Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:35:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08593; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:35:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23853; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23847; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:27:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdOJ6-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: Sorting... Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 11:11:43 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3hdms9$dea@news.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hdms9$dea@news.umbc.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 9 Feb 1995, Michele Decker wrote: > Thanks for all the input when I asked about threading. The sort by order > really makes a difference. Last question on this: Upon leaving a > newsgroup, that feature is lost. Is there a way of retaining the sorting > as a permanent feature? > Yes and no. You can select sort order in your configuration setup but that also affects your mail sort order. The option for seperate sort defaults for mail & news is on the pine teams todo maybe list. David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Geco-Prakla, Schlumberger House, Buckingham Gate, Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326 Happiness is a binary state. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 12:44:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09007; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:44:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24276; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:35:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24270; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:35:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdOMR-00038OC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Autoresponses to incoming email? help! Date: 10 Feb 1995 15:30:55 GMT Message-Id: <3hg0rf$8ao@news.rwth-aachen.de> References: <3hbms3$4r5@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Wet-Sprocket wrote: >Comes here Mr. John Cobarruvias with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group >in this article on 8 Feb 1995 21:11:45 GMT: > + I am a keeper of a number of FAQs. I would like to go to a method of > + auto responding based upon the subjec field. For example "send FAQ" > + in the subject field of an incoming email would autmatically send a > + file to the sender. > + I know there is also a way to automatically reject an email based upon > + the sender or subject. >Procmail is your answer. Subscribe to the procmail mailing list for more info. >"procmail-d@informatik.rwth-aachen.de" That's actually the wrong address. Send your subscription requests to either: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de or procmail-d-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (for the digested version) -- Sincerely, berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). This is a day for firm decisions! Or is it? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 13:21:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09922; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:21:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24573; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:12:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24567; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:12:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdOuH-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sholstea@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Steve Holstead) Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes Date: 10 Feb 1995 18:28:24 GMT Message-Id: <3hgb88$nje@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: Status: O X-Status: Sherry H. Lake (slake@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote: : Machine: DEC 2100 (alpha) running OSF/1 3.0 : Pine 3.91 : Problem: Users are not properly logging off their accounts and pine : processes are eating between 10 and 60 % of the CPU. This is also happening on AIX3.25 with a default shell of tcsh. This problem is quite serious, due to our 400 concurrent users over 3 machines. I did experience Sherry's problem in a OSF/1 2.0 environment, and the problem went away by changing the default shell to tcsh. Any info would be *greatly* appericiated! -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Holstead University of Alberta Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 C A N A D A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 13:38:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10278; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:38:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25241; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:30:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25229; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:30:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdPM2-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bob Burge Subject: pico commands Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 15:42:53 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Howdy! Is there a list of pico commands available? Thanks, Bob From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 13:51:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10491; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:51:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25032; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:42:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25026; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:42:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdPN1-00038MC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tdarcos@access4.digex.net (Paul Robinson) Subject: Suggestion for Option re: newsgroups in Pine Date: 10 Feb 1995 14:10:10 GMT Message-Id: <3hfs42$k68@news1.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: I would like to suggest a new option be added to Pine to allow someone to select the option to automatically "delete" a message when the mailbox they are reading is a newsgroup. This would then automatically update their .newsrc file. One would not have to remember to delete articles in order to add them to the "read" list. To be compatible with current pine, the option should default to off, so that people who want this feature would have to turn it on. It might be worthwhile to do it this way: if someone upgrades a config file as a result of the automatic upgrade when their system changes to a new version of Pine, then it should leave the flag defaulted to off; new users who have no config file would default to on. Either that, or inform upgrading users that the option will automatically be set to on and they should disable it if they do not want this feature, the way Pine informs them on the first time they use it during a month and asks if they want to move the current saved mail folder to the name of the previous month. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 13:51:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10513; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:51:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25425; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:42:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25419; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:42:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdPR9-00038OC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 13:47:27 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3h81sk$6k5@doc.jmu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Some myths need to be dispelled here. On 7 Feb 1995, Charles Cooley wrote: > [NOOPs] also use network bandwidth, which is a precious resource at some > sites. A TCP/IP datagram containing a NOOP is 86 bytes. 86 bytes transmitted once every several minutes is not a "precious resource" unless you're using 300 baud modems. This is way down in the noise of bandwidth. > Every ACTIVE connection eats away at system > resources, and server administrators take that fact into account when setting > system parameters like timeout value. This is a myth which the designers of TCP and TCP software (especially Phil Karn of KA9Q fame) have tried for years to debunk. By "active connection" you presumably mean "open connection", not "connection actively transferring data" -- inactivity timers have no effect upon the latter and thus it makes no sense to profer it as a solution to the latter "eating away at system resources". Open but inactive TCP connections do not "eat away at system resources". TCBs are not finite resources. A lot more harm than good comes about by server administrators who play around with server timeout values without understanding the underlying mechanisms involved. The purpose of server timeouts is to garbage collect abandoned connections from PCs/Macs which were dropped without a reset, since otherwise the PC will try to reuse the same port after rebooting and find it can't get in. They are otherwise to be avoided at all cost. > You noted that NNTP is different > than other protocols because it doesn't have a NOOP command. You assumed that > it was an omission through error, but perhaps it was a design decision. (I don't > know which is true.) Reinventing history is always fun, but I'd rather not do it here. The NNTP protocol as specified in RFC-977 has a huge number of omissions. In fact, RFC-977 doesn't even specify the protocol that is actually in use. It is never wise to assume intent when error is a plausible explanation. > Again, consider "reconnection" as an alternative to timeout suppression. I fear that it will probably be about the time that hell freezes over that I will finish the long list of tasks to make things work that currently don't work (IMAP4 and IMSP loom high on this ever-growing list), and will have the luxury to go back and redo things that do work. On the other hand, we provide source code. If this is so important to you, why don't you write the code? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 14:09:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11078; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:09:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25259; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:01:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25253; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:00:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdPp0-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Incoming Folders List Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:18:24 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3h6dkv$ffv@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3h6dkv$ffv@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Pine currently only monitors the INBOX for new mail... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 7 Feb 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Date: 7 FEB 1995 00:07:59 GMT > From: Wet-Sprocket > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Incoming Folders List > > David L. Miller writes: > > + You can specify aliases for the incoming folders in the Setup/Config > + screen. Here are some examples: > > + incoming-folders=Beth /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/beth, > + dadw /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/dadw, > + "S.P." /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/sp, > + "This is the 'DS' folder" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/ds, > + "Not Piglet" /mntmh/ugrad/base/s/syb3/incoming/figlet > > While this is very useful, is there way to activate Pine's newmail notifier > to notify as soon as there's new mail in anyone of these folders other than > the standard INBOX. > > As my incoming-folders includes INBOX of the localhost as well as other hosts > either via pop3 or imap. > > Many Thanks. > > -- > ---. , , > \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ > \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' > Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . > Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' > __________________________________________________________________________ > "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 14:09:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11090; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:09:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25679; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:01:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25658; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:01:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdPp6-00038MC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 13:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine for ignorant knaves Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 15:21:53 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3h68qe$4r0@giant.seas.smu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3h68qe$4r0@giant.seas.smu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Try ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/Getting_Started_On_Pine.* |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Feb 1995, Marshall C. Yount wrote: > Date: 6 FEB 1995 22:45:34 GMT > From: Marshall C. Yount > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Pine for ignorant knaves > > (apologies if this is in a FAQ somewhere, I couldn't find one) > > I am attempting to assemble a list of resources (essentially a stack of > manuals) for new 'Net users at my school. While I can usually find what > I want in a man page, the people I am putting this together for are > pretty inexperienced with computers and rather frightened of Unix, in > particular. I was wondering if anyone knows where I can find some > simple, easy to read/understand/decypher documents/manuals about Pine (or > using FTP, WWW, Gopher, Archie, UseNet etc.). > > Anyway, if someone could help me find such a file (if it exists), I would > be eternally grateful (well, maybe not *eternally*, but at least for five > minutes)... > > Thanks > > -- > -- > "Heck I reckon you wouldn't be human beings | yount@seas.smu.edu > if you didn't have some pretty strong | MarshallfnordYount > feelings about nuclear combat." \------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 14:29:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11579; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:29:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25596; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:21:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25571; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:21:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdQ4D-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gesv0011@rz03.FH-Karlsruhe.DE (Sven Geggus) Subject: PINE und REPLY Mail unter TIA Date: 10 Feb 1995 10:36:49 GMT Message-Id: <3hffk1$10e@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Hello all, I suppose that you know about TIA, if not you could probably help me as well. TIA is a SLIP emulation Software which tell's the rest of the net that you are working on your UNIX host Computer and not on your own, that's why reply mail won't work. E.g. on my host I can be called like root@mycomputer.somewhere. And now the Question: It's a simple one, how can I get tia to send mail with another address in the from Line than mine? BTW This has to run on my system only I do have root privilegues if necessary. Thanks for hints -- Sven Geggus, Haydnstr.5, 76356 Weingarten, GERMANY, Phone: +49 72442564 < gesv0011@fh-karlsruhe.de > "On the net even EDU-Country is just a part of the global village" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 14:32:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11671; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:32:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25646; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:24:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aurora.alaska.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25640; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:24:10 -0800 Received: from uaf-du-01-02.alaska.edu (uaf-du-01-03.alaska.edu) by VMS.AURORA.ALASKA.EDU (PMDF V4.3-13 #8271) id <01HMXARLO3C09PW54V@VMS.AURORA.ALASKA.EDU>; Sat, 11 Feb 1995 13:23:25 -0900 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 13:23:25 -0900 Date-Warning: Date header was inserted by VMS.AURORA.ALASKA.EDU From: fsjsh3@aurora.alaska.edu (Joe) Subject: Pine X-Sender: fsjsh3@aurora.alaska.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <01HMXARMBO3M9PW54V@VMS.AURORA.ALASKA.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Status: O X-Status: Is there a way that I can get pine on disk? I have a SCO Unix net and I currently have no Internet access and I want to use it internally. I know the files are big and I'm not sure how to put them on disk myself.. ...joe... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 14:40:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11958; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:40:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26133; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:31:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26127; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:31:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdQGW-00038OC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) Subject: Re: Bug (ID A0001): Suggestion: Edit the text of incomming messages Message-Id: Date: 10 Feb 95 18:42:34 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199502100030.SAA11794@otter.cig.mot.com> Status: O X-Status: Penio, There is an item on our to-do list that would allow you to save a marked section of a message... Thanks for the suggestion! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 7 Feb 1995, Penio Penev wrote: > Date: Tue, 7 Feb 1995 17:10:40 GMT > From: Penio Penev > To: ellis@cig.mot.com, > Pine Developers > Subject: Bug (ID A0001): Suggestion: Edit the text of incomming messages > > From time to time one receives a non-attached document in the body of the > message and some kind of explanation in the beginning. It would be great > to have means of automating the vieing of the document in this case. > > For example, if I have received a *TeX file with some comments, I would > like to, say, press E)dit while viewing, which will take me to the > editor, cut the actual *TeX lines and save them in a file from the > editor. This could be done with or without saving the modifications to > the text of the message. > > -- > Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 14:50:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12116; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:50:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25940; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:42:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25934; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:42:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdQMw-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwards%teaching.physics@ox.ac.uk (David Edwards) Subject: Re: Mail bombs - how to avoid? Message-Id: <1995Feb11.205707.4587@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <3h8nc5$9nd@gco.apana.org.au> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 95 20:57:06 GMT Status: O X-Status: Steven Williams (stevew@gco.apana.org.au) wrote: > I'm being constantly mail bomed, and would like to set up a function in > pine to delete or return any mail sent to me from an address. I know > about the .forward command, is there one for this sort of thing? Firstly, I'd ask the question, "Why are you being mail bombed?". Then, I would suggest that you report the person that is doing it to their system administrator. If you set your .forward file to pipe your mail into a program such as "filter" (from the Elm distribution), you could bounce such mail from a specific person back to them. -- _ _ ==========////==================================================== / //// David Edwards: Welcome to the real world... \ || _ _ //// http://sable.ox.ac.uk/~worc0058/ || || \\\\ //// edwards.teaching@physics.oxford.ac.uk || \ \\\X/// dwe101@tower.york.ac.uk Don't believe the hype... / ====\XXX/========================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 15:12:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12602; Sat, 11 Feb 95 15:12:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26560; Sat, 11 Feb 95 15:01:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26554; Sat, 11 Feb 95 15:01:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdQkO-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 14:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: r_steer@cpcug.digex.net (Randy Steer) Subject: Re: Need help with signature! Date: 11 Feb 1995 22:32:58 GMT Message-Id: <3hjduq$5el@news1.digex.net> References: <3gtngr$5kq@garuda.csulb.edu> Status: O X-Status: You should see your signature file appear automatically if it is saved in your home directory with the name, ".signature". I often find it more useful to only insert signature files selectively, so I created a couple of signature files with names like cpc.sig and omb.sig. Those aren't appended to messages automatically, but I can insert them whenever I want, as I'll do in a moment, by using ^R to read in a file. I keep those *.sig files in my home directory. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Randy Steer Capital PC User Group Membership Services Director "Users Helping Users" r_steer@cpcug.org Washington, DC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Kolsam Mel Keo (kolsam@csulb.edu) wrote: : Hi, : How do I setup the Pine configuration so when I post something, my : .signature file appends at the bottom? : Please reply me. Thanks. : Mel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 15:29:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12866; Sat, 11 Feb 95 15:29:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26408; Sat, 11 Feb 95 15:21:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26402; Sat, 11 Feb 95 15:21:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdQwT-00038XC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 15:09 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: r_steer@cpcug.digex.net (Randy Steer) Subject: Re: I need MIME help!!!!!! Date: 11 Feb 1995 22:39:55 GMT Message-Id: <3hjebr$5el@news1.digex.net> References: <95039.153347CLS141@psuvm.psu.edu> Status: O X-Status: I've had reasonably good success (not universal) with Wincode, usually found on FTP sites as WNCODxxx.zip. You may have to go into the option settings to turn off automatic detection of file type, then manually specify Base64 decoding, which is what MIME uses. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Randy Steer Capital PC User Group Membership Services Director "Users Helping Users" r_steer@cpcug.org Washington, DC ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charity L. Sipe (CLS141@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote: : I have a MIME encoded file and I need to decode it.. I have tried to decode : it on my pc using 'munpack' that I got from an ftp site at Carnegie Mellon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 16:09:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13798; Sat, 11 Feb 95 16:09:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27286; Sat, 11 Feb 95 16:01:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27280; Sat, 11 Feb 95 16:01:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdRcs-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 15:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@eratosthenes.math.utah.edu (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: pico commands Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 22:37:43 GMT References: In-Reply-To: Bob Burge's message of Sat, 11 Feb 1995 15: 42:53 -0600 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Try control-G (Help). -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 16:50:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14570; Sat, 11 Feb 95 16:50:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27470; Sat, 11 Feb 95 16:42:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27464; Sat, 11 Feb 95 16:42:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdSC4-00038LC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 16:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwards%teaching.physics@ox.ac.uk (David Edwards) Subject: Re: "pico -w" and long lines Message-Id: <1995Feb11.124954.23177@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: Date: Sat, 11 Feb 95 12:49:54 GMT Status: O X-Status: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > Pico can only read lines of 256 or less characters. It can create lines > of any (?) length though... Is this likely to be changed? Many people (including myself) use Pico as as an editor to go with Tin, to provide a consistent editing environment between news and mail. When following up to an article in a long thread, the References: header can get rather long, and Pico happily wraps it when the article is loaded in, meaning the two lines have to be manually joined to prevent all the headers getting messed up. Surely if it can create longer lines while editing, it can't be that difficult to make it load them, too...? -- _ _ ==========////==================================================== / //// David Edwards: Welcome to the real world... \ || _ _ //// http://sable.ox.ac.uk/~worc0058/ || || \\\\ //// edwards.teaching@physics.oxford.ac.uk || \ \\\X/// dwe101@tower.york.ac.uk Don't believe the hype... / ====\XXX/========================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 18:09:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16634; Sat, 11 Feb 95 18:09:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28728; Sat, 11 Feb 95 17:54:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28722; Sat, 11 Feb 95 17:54:53 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25810; Sat, 11 Feb 95 17:54:50 -0800 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 17:54:49 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Steve Holstead Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes In-Reply-To: <3hgb88$nje@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Steve, On the AIX system, do you mean that if someone disconnects *and* their shell is tcsh, then Pine runs wild? Or does it happen with tcsh even if you are not disconnected? In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem on OSF? -teg On 10 Feb 1995, Steve Holstead wrote: > Sherry H. Lake (slake@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote: > : Machine: DEC 2100 (alpha) running OSF/1 3.0 > : Pine 3.91 > > : Problem: Users are not properly logging off their accounts and pine > : processes are eating between 10 and 60 % of the CPU. > > This is also happening on AIX3.25 with a default shell of tcsh. This > problem is quite serious, due to our 400 concurrent users over 3 machines. > > I did experience Sherry's problem in a OSF/1 2.0 environment, and the > problem went away by changing the default shell to tcsh. > > Any info would be *greatly* appericiated! > > -- > ______________________________________________________________________________ > > Steve Holstead University of Alberta > Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services > Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group > Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building > Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 > C A N A D A > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 18:17:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16816; Sat, 11 Feb 95 18:17:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28979; Sat, 11 Feb 95 18:09:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28973; Sat, 11 Feb 95 18:09:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdTe4-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 18:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Hudson Subject: News posting without full address Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 13:47:08 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: My news postings are going out without the full address... instead of bill@gilroy.rmp.com, or bill@rmp.com, they are posting with bill@gilroy.rmp Anybody have any clues on how to resolve this? I'm running Pine 3.91 on an SCO Unix (3.2.4.2) box. Thanks. ============================================================================ Bill Hudson; System Administrator; Robert Mann Packaging INC, Gilroy, CA USA bill@rmp.com rmp@garlic.com BHudson@ix.netcom.com Tel: 1.408.848.5440 Fax: 1.408.848.2063 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 18:38:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17301; Sat, 11 Feb 95 18:38:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28871; Sat, 11 Feb 95 18:30:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28865; Sat, 11 Feb 95 18:30:36 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28625; Sat, 11 Feb 95 18:30:28 -0800 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 18:30:26 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Hal Render , Bill Hudson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 2 msgs concerning domain name problems In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hal and Bill, Both your messages leave me wondering if Pine's "user-domain" variable is not working for you, or if you simply haven't tried it. It should certainly not be necessary to change any code to set whatever domain name you want! -teg p.s for Hal: a common reason for gethostname to return the wrong (short) version is that the names are in the wrong order in the /etc/hosts file. I believe the FQDN should be first. On 11 Feb 1995, Hal Render wrote: > FWIW, I ended up doing a "gross kludge" on this. The routine that sets > the return addresses in pine (for both mail and news) is getdomainnames(), > defined in the file pine/osdep/domnames. The original function checks to > see if there is a local domain name attached to the host name, but if there > isn't it simply uses the hostname as both the FQDN and the local domain > name. I solved this by tacking on local domain name onto the hostname. > This is the only "simple" solution I could see (there's probably a preferred > way to get the full domain name from someplace other that gethostname(), but > I don't know what it is). What pine could do is allow the user to define > a constant set to the local domain and put the code below in an #ifdef-#endif > > Anyway, here is the diff (replace "uccs.edu" with your local domain name): > > pine/osdep/domnames > 47c47,48 > < strncpy(domainname, hostname, dsize-1); > --- > > strcat(hostname, ".uccs.edu"); > > strcpy(domainname, "uccs.edu"); > -- > hal render > univ. of colorado at colorado springs > render@massive.uccs.edu > On Fri, 10 Feb 1995, Bill Hudson wrote: > > My news postings are going out without the full address... instead of > bill@gilroy.rmp.com, or bill@rmp.com, they are posting with bill@gilroy.rmp > > Anybody have any clues on how to resolve this? > > I'm running Pine 3.91 on an SCO Unix (3.2.4.2) box. > > Thanks. > > ============================================================================ > Bill Hudson; System Administrator; Robert Mann Packaging INC, Gilroy, CA USA > bill@rmp.com rmp@garlic.com BHudson@ix.netcom.com > Tel: 1.408.848.5440 Fax: 1.408.848.2063 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 20:03:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18955; Sat, 11 Feb 95 20:03:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29928; Sat, 11 Feb 95 19:55:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29922; Sat, 11 Feb 95 19:55:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdVIU-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 19:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: messina@engin.umich.edu (Matt Messina) Subject: Re: local printing Message-Id: <3hgrbf$ee5@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> Date: 10 Feb 95 23:03:11 GMT References: <3guhln$d9b@cis.clark.edu> Status: O X-Status: Craig S. Barnhill wrote: >I'm looking for a way to print to a local printer from a unix >workstation (via LPTx) and over a modem. The Pine ansi-print >works great but I want something for the command line. I think this only works on text files, but there is a file called `ansiprt.c' that comes with the pine source at: ftp.cac.washington.edu:/pine/pine.tar.Z Get that file, uncompress and untar it (do it on a temp drive or check your disk quota first). Then you'll find ansiprt.c in: ./pine3.91/contrib/utils/ansiprt.c (assuming you're currently in the directory you untar'd from). Compile it, and then delete everything else. It will print what it gets on standard input on your attached-to-ansi printer. % ansiprt < file.to.print To be able to use command line arguments (e.g. `ansiprt file.to.print'), in csh: % alias ansiprt 'cat \!* | \ansiprt' (Followups directed to comp.mail.pine) -- Matt Messina messina@umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 20:11:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19161; Sat, 11 Feb 95 20:11:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00516; Sat, 11 Feb 95 20:03:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00510; Sat, 11 Feb 95 20:03:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdVM6-00038TC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 19:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deannewf@telerama.lm.com (Jack or Aura Dean) Subject: Re: Blinking letters? Date: 10 Feb 1995 08:33:29 -0500 Message-Id: <3hfpv9$42k@epicycle.lm.com> References: <3hedfb$8bh@portal.gmu.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article , Dave Saville wrote: >On 10 Feb 1995, Yong-Rim Rhee wrote: > >> I just received an email from a friend asking me how I could type in bliking >> letter on the subject line. I sure as hell don't know and didn't even know it >> was possible. I've seen some people post an article with weird characters >> (those extended-ascii) and I would like to know how I can do this. Any help >> would be appreciated. Please email > >Yes it IS possible to put escape sequences into almost anything. The >question is if one SHOULD. Most often they only work for a certain >combination of software & hardware. Sending an odd escape sequence to an >unknown setup could screw their session window or worse. Of course it >MIGHT actually work. Not advised practice. > >David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com I agree that it is probably not a great idea, but it is an interesting question. How Do you put the escape sequences into PINE. Is it editor dependent? I believe our system uses PICO Thanks Jack Dean From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 20:33:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19525; Sat, 11 Feb 95 20:33:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00432; Sat, 11 Feb 95 20:25:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00426; Sat, 11 Feb 95 20:25:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdVhL-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 20:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: K.Davies@mailbox.uq.oz.au (Kevin Davies) Subject: How do I disable the Newsreader in PINE 3.91? Date: Sat, 11 Feb 95 16:03:37 GMT Message-Id: <3hgnq0$gue@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Status: O X-Status: I have successfully compiled pine under SCO Unix 3.2v4.2. How do i disable the newsreader function completely? We do not and will not use it. Do I HAVE to go back to an older version? Is it better if I go back to an older version because it will be smaller and faster? Can I leave out the newsreader part during the compile? Thanks in advance Kevin F. Davies -- A bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a... *splat*... "annoying!" -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 21:53:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20915; Sat, 11 Feb 95 21:53:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01713; Sat, 11 Feb 95 21:42:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01707; Sat, 11 Feb 95 21:42:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdWwm-00038FC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 21:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: samson@igate.iohk.com (Samson Luk) Subject: PC Pine signature/addressbook Date: 12 Feb 1995 02:03:55 GMT Message-Id: <3hjqab$nq0@ibridge.iohk.com> Status: O X-Status: How can I setup the following in PINERC to get PC Pine use the .addressbook and .signature file on the UNIX end? address-book={mail.iohk.com}.addressbook signature-file={mail.iohk.com}.signature both of the above didn't work in my case. Regards Samson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 22:25:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21547; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:25:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01672; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:15:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01666; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:15:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdXOj-00038PC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eahg278@taurus.oac.uci.edu (Christopher Noble) Subject: HELP:Deleting all newsgroups at one time Date: 10 Feb 95 18:43:32 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Unfortunately, my system has all the news groups that I can get in the news collection. How can I clean it out so it only has the say 10 groups I want. It really slows down my system and if makes it very difficult to post messages thru pine since it must select the group and show all 4 million messages before I can post. Any suggestions. Noble From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 22:27:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21636; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:27:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02113; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:15:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02107; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:15:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdXOy-00038QC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: K.Davies@mailbox.uq.oz.au (Kevin Davies) Subject: SCO Sendmail over UUCP Help! Message-Id: <3hgubg$gue@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Date: 11 Feb 95 17:55:22 GMT Status: O X-Status: I HAVE to set up sendmail over UUCP. I *think I have the UUCP setup ok. Well, I can connect and the script works. I am using SCO's flavour of sendmail and I hear this sendmail v8 is pretty damn good. I'll do anything for GOOD documentation *gasp*. You see, I got thrown in the deep end and for the past week I have been drowning. I was told "please hook us up to the Internet. Thankyou!". Well MMDF looked like the horror story that it is. And the mail program leaves a lot to be desired *yuk*. So I blithly said nothing and away I went.... Boss won't pay the money for a professional! On the first day.... :-) "What is MMDF?" (Mutant Mungrel Damaged Forwarder?) "UUCP" oh... I see... ahh connected! WRONG HOSTNAME? "Changed host name... oops Lotus won't run and no-one can print!" On the second day... ;-) "MMDF - I thought channel was a perfume?" "New activation key from Lotus and printing fixed!" "Oh I need to get Pine... ahh! PPP over TCP/IP!" On the third day ....:-| "PPP ... DNS won't work!" "PPP doesn't work! oh, need upgrade AND patch" "Hmmm I DO NOT want to use named!" "Discovered /usr/lib/uucp/uuinstall, hmmm that's a lot easier" On the fourth day .... :-( "Umm why DNS not working? ahh resolv.conf GOD I HATE UNIX!" "Oh! upgrade TCP/IP and patch! NOW it WORKS, got pine" "pine man pages? troff/nroff/tbl? You have to BUY THESE EXTRA?" "Pine uses SENDMAIL? Pine needs libcrypt.a????" "AhHA! got the crypt lib but its called libcrypt_i.a! hmm: ln libcrypt_i.a libcrypt.a" "Activated sendmail byebye MMDF good!" On the fifth day ... :-O -> #@%^#$!! "Compiled gzip, zip, unzip, where do I get troff/nroff/tbl??? gnu version requires c++!" "Pine keeps activating the PPP link. I can't have that!" "Pine is sending mail but to where????" "Ahhh crontab for UUCPing .... where does sendmail put its stuff?" "Where does UUCP pick up the mail from (directory)?" NOW... *grin* what a week! So there you go and that is where I am. PPP has been disabled until I can figure out a way to implement some security (someone mentioned TCP/IP wrappers (that's next)). I think I did ok considering I knew NOTHING about the SCO mailing system or serial TCP/IP. It was a hell of a ride and it still needs finishing. You see, I left the company on Friday ... my last day. And knowbody there knows a damn thing about it. I will have to finish it for them but now they will PAY me properly for it. It isn't quite working as yet but I am very close... UUCP is ok.. need to set up the crontab entries. Asking around to find out why Pine is activating the PPP link... in fact it won't start until the link is up and running! Next ... Get Pine -> sendmail -> uucp running completely. Install procmail, and tcp/ip wrappers for PPP link (You see i need to have telnetd and ftpd running for internal network.) *sigh* still got some work to do but at least I have some idea now. If you can make any suggestions then please do so. I am committed to using UUCP for mail at this stage. Please forward this to the appropriate groups/people if required. Thankyou sincerely and humbly in advance Kevin -- A bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a... *splat*... "annoying!" -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 22:44:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22045; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:44:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02355; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:34:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02349; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:34:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdXg3-00038RC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevelar@texas.net (Steve Larson) Subject: Where do I get it? Date: 10 Feb 1995 19:12:58 GMT Message-Id: <3hgdrq$oa1@empire.texas.net> Status: O X-Status: Where can I get a copy of Pine 3.91 for Windows? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 22:44:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22052; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:44:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01916; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:34:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01910; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:34:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdXei-00038OC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: naegele@worms.fh-rpl.de (Ralf Naegele) Subject: Pine and MMDF Date: 11 Feb 1995 15:15:28 GMT Message-Id: <3hikag$qon@lavinia.worms.fh-rpl.de> Status: O X-Status: Has someone ever tried Pine to set up for MMDF? I've got the sources and tried it, bit with no luck. -- --------------------------------- \ Ralf Naegele \ email: naegele@worms.fh-rpl.de Fachhochschule Rheinland-Pfalz \ naegele@she.de Abteilung Worms \ Fachbereich Kommunikationsinformatik \ \---------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 22:53:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22287; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:53:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02051; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:44:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02045; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:44:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdXqV-00038SC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Juliet Lim Subject: Mac and PINE Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 16:17:02 +0700 (GMT+0700) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am using a Mac as a terminal with a SLIP (INTERSlip) connection to a UNIX host. How do I print my e-mail while inside the PINE program? When I press Y (for PrYnt), the mail is printed on the screen, not on the attached printer as should be. Pleae reply by e-mail (if possible) to juliet@ait.ac.th Thanks for any response. Juliet From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 11 23:10:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22609; Sat, 11 Feb 95 23:10:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02639; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:59:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02633; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:59:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdY8h-00038OC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 22:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ewy@splinteriti-oh.com (Eric Youngquist) Subject: Pine and quitting without saving Date: 12 Feb 1995 04:18:33 GMT Message-Id: <3hk26p$hlu@ns.oar.net> Status: O X-Status: Other than running Pine with the -o option is it possible to quit without saving? Why would one like to do this? Well, I like to run pine from home to look at my mail. Sometimes, it would be nice to save my changes and sometimes it would be nice to abort them. I would like to abort my changes after I read my my mail and I have not saved or deleted any of my messages. But when I quit pine my mail file is altered and the next day my Sun's mailtool (X based) - which I run because I deal with outside customers that require Suns mailtool attachments - complains that my mail file has been altered. At this point I must quit mailtool and restart it. It would be nice if I could quit without saving. Is this possible? The only way that I know to get around this is to type ^Z and kill the process. (Note, Sun's command line mailer allows me to quit without saving with the "x" command, but it does not have near the flexiblity of pine.) I am running pine 3.91 and I did not see any quit with out saving feature in the manual. If this option is not currently built into pine it would make a nice enhancement. Thanks in advance, Eric Youngquist From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 00:09:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23702; Sun, 12 Feb 95 00:09:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02893; Sat, 11 Feb 95 23:59:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02887; Sat, 11 Feb 95 23:59:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdZ1q-00038VC; Sat, 11 Feb 95 23:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gthorpe@fiat.gslis.utexas.edu (Geffrey Thorpe) Subject: Re: Mailing List Question Date: 11 Feb 1995 05:00:29 GMT Message-Id: <3hhg9d$nql@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <1995Feb6.135246@titan.sfasu.edu> <3h6edt$eih@crl4.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: Bob Corbett (bcorbett@crl.com) wrote: > ALEXANDER FRANCIS MUSE (g_museaf@titan.sfasu.edu) wrote: > : How do I set up a mailing list in Pine? I am new to the program and the > : help file is not the clearest. Thank yo. > I have a mailing list. It was quite easy. Once in my mailing list I > believe Ihit z. Check the list at the bottom. It asked me to name the > list, which I did as ptp. Then it asked for addresses (not names. Mine > won't let me put names on addresses). > Then when I want to mail I merely hit ptp on the send line, at least that > is what I did early on. Then my list got up to over 100 people and all > those addresses took up 3 pages. > So, now when I get ready to mail I mail it to ME. Then I hit > Conrol R and I get an expanded heading, including a line > bcc (blind carbon copy). Next I type my ptp on this line and now > the letter goes out with only one person's name, their own, on each > of the 100+ letters. > Hope this helps, bob Corbett > If it is not clear, write back, I'll try again. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 00:25:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24015; Sun, 12 Feb 95 00:25:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03556; Sun, 12 Feb 95 00:18:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03550; Sun, 12 Feb 95 00:18:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdZJ9-00038LC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 00:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ewy@splinteriti-oh.com (Eric Youngquist) Subject: UNIX pipes through email aliases Date: 12 Feb 1995 04:38:10 GMT Message-Id: <3hk3bi$hlu@ns.oar.net> Status: O X-Status: I know that the UNIX pipe command has been added to allow pine user the ability to send email messages to UNIX programs/ scripts, but is it possible to send a message to an alias (aka. address) that is a UNIX pipe? It would be nice to be able to forward a message to an alias that can process it similar to pines pipe UNIX capability. The address would look something like this: pwr |/users/pdetools/pwr/pwremail I have tried to forward to this address, but I get an error. But I can send/forward an email message to the UNIX program through pines UNIX pipe capabilites. If this option is not currently built into pine it would make a nice enhancement. Thanks in advance, Eric Youngquist From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 01:03:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24874; Sun, 12 Feb 95 01:03:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03991; Sun, 12 Feb 95 00:55:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03985; Sun, 12 Feb 95 00:55:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rda2n-00038FC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 00:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: No Threading? Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 12:39:59 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3hbfin$nl3@news.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, David L Miller wrote: > > Pine does not quite have threading, but the OreeredSubject sort gets close... > I have never got the hang of the difference between sort by subject and ordered subject - can someone enlighten me please? David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Geco-Prakla, Schlumberger House, Buckingham Gate, Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326 Happiness is a binary state. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 01:57:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26130; Sun, 12 Feb 95 01:57:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04352; Sun, 12 Feb 95 01:47:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04346; Sun, 12 Feb 95 01:47:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdapZ-00038FC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 01:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcoates@callnet.com (Tom Coates) Subject: How do I setup pine to read newsgroups Date: 12 Feb 1995 08:33:22 GMT Message-Id: <3hkh4i$smc@kiwi.futuris.net> Status: O X-Status: How do I setup pine to read news groups? I am completly new to this stuff and any help would be graetly appreciated (please no flaming a new user). Tom. -- ___ ___ _-==-_ (___)---------------------------------------------------(___) / .. \__| | Thomas A. Coates | | /| --' |___) | (http://callnet.com/pub/tcoates/html/my.html) | | || | | | (ftp callnet.com/pub/tcoates) | | (___\/___) |___| (tcoates@callnet.com) |___| (___)---------------------------------------------------(___) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 02:32:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26740; Sun, 12 Feb 95 02:32:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05096; Sun, 12 Feb 95 02:22:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05090; Sun, 12 Feb 95 02:22:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdbH5-00038FC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 02:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Vince Prichard Subject: Copying Global Addressbook Entries to a Personal Book Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 17:41:38 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Does Pine have any built-in facility to copy address information from the system's Global Addressbook to a personal address book? Outside of Pine, I have found that you can grep the global file for the name you want and append the output to the personal file (.addressbook). Then Pine sees what was added when you start it. But is there a more direct way? This method can easily get more than you want, which then has to be deleted. ----------------------------------------------------- Vince Prichard Network Services Department University of Colorado Health Sciences Center UCHSC, Box A060, 4200 E. 9th Avenue, Denver CO 80262 Voice: 303-270-3768 FAX: 303-270-8699 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 02:32:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26767; Sun, 12 Feb 95 02:32:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04743; Sun, 12 Feb 95 02:22:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04737; Sun, 12 Feb 95 02:22:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdbJN-00038LC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 02:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: johncoby@blkbox.com (John Cobarruvias) Subject: Autoresponses to incoming email? help! Date: 8 Feb 1995 21:11:45 GMT Message-Id: <3hbc2h$2aj@news.blkbox.com> Status: O X-Status: I am a keeper of a number of FAQs. I would like to go to a method of auto responding based upon the subjec field. For example "send FAQ" in the subject field of an incoming email would autmatically send a file to the sender. I know there is also a way to automatically reject an email based upon the sender or subject. Any help would be appreciated! Email if possible and I will later post a summary. -- ____ _____ _ _ _ _ ____ (_ _)( _ )( )_( )( \( ) ( _ \ John R. Cobarruvias .-_)( )(_)( ) _ ( ) ( ) / johncoby@blkbox.com \____) (_____)(_) (_)(_)\_) (_)\_)() ___ _____ ____ __ ____ ____ __ __ _ _ ____ __ ___ / __)( _ )( _ \ /__\ ( _ \( _ \( )( )( \/ )(_ _) /__\ / __) ( (__ )(_)( ) _ < /(__)\ ) / ) / )(__)( \ / _)(_ /(__)\ \__ \ \___)(_____)(____/(__)(__)(_)\_)(_)\_)(______) \/ (____)(__)(__)(___/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 03:13:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27651; Sun, 12 Feb 95 03:13:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05539; Sun, 12 Feb 95 03:02:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05533; Sun, 12 Feb 95 03:02:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdbwH-00038FC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 02:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: No Threading? Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 16:49:31 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3hbfin$nl3@news.umbc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hbfin$nl3@news.umbc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Pine does not quite have threading, but the OreeredSubject sort gets close... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Feb 1995, Michele Decker wrote: > Date: 8 FEB 1995 22:11:35 GMT > From: Michele Decker > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: No Threading? > > I was comparing Pine to TIN for newreader options. I really like Pine > because you stay in the same application, (i.e. mail and newsgroups). > However, the messages in PINE are not threaded, so to find a reply to a > message, you have to page,page,page to get the replies. Pretty cumbersome. > > Is there a way of threading the replies to the original question, as in TIN? > > -- > Michele > > **************************************************************************** > Michele Elisa Decker Academic Computing Department > michele@midget.towson.edu Towson State University > http://www.towson.edu/~michele Towson, Maryland . . > . > O > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 04:33:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29724; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:33:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06359; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:22:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06353; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:22:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rddBG-00038FC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Autoresponses to incoming email? help! Date: 9 Feb 1995 00:16:03 GMT Message-Id: <3hbms3$4r5@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. John Cobarruvias with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 8 Feb 1995 21:11:45 GMT: + I am a keeper of a number of FAQs. I would like to go to a method of + auto responding based upon the subjec field. For example "send FAQ" + in the subject field of an incoming email would autmatically send a + file to the sender. + I know there is also a way to automatically reject an email based upon + the sender or subject. Procmail is your answer. Subscribe to the procmail mailing list for more info. "procmail-d@informatik.rwth-aachen.de" -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 04:48:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00216; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:48:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06861; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:37:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06855; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:37:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rddUN-00038OC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Pine as a News Reader Date: 9 Feb 1995 00:01:21 GMT Message-Id: <3hbm0h$4r5@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Steve with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Wed, 8 Feb 1995 15:41:09 -0700: + Is there a way to mark Usenet messages deleted in Pine? + I mean, like from past news reading sessions too? + Please reply to the news group, thanks. ;AAD ; Select A Select All A Apply D delete You need to enable-aggregate-command-set in the Setup/Config screen for this. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 04:48:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00258; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:48:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06529; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:37:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06523; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:37:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rddUr-00038PC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: No Threading? Date: 9 Feb 1995 00:08:06 GMT Message-Id: <3hbmd6$4r5@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mz. Michele Decker with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 8 Feb 1995 22:11:35 GMT: + I was comparing Pine to TIN for newreader options. I really like Pine + because you stay in the same application, (i.e. mail and newsgroups). + However, the messages in PINE are not threaded, so to find a reply to a + message, you have to page,page,page to get the replies. Pretty cumbersome. + Is there a way of threading the replies to the original question, as in TIN? Have you considered $orting the folder Subject wise? In addition you could sort it Reverse so that you will see the first question then the following responses under it. Enjoy! -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 05:08:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00770; Sun, 12 Feb 95 05:08:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06772; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:57:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06766; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:57:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rddkW-00038LC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@eratosthenes.math.utah.edu (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: I need MIME help!!!!!! Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 02:01:47 GMT References: <95039.153347CLS141@psuvm.psu.edu> <3hjebr$5el@news1.digex.net> In-Reply-To: r_steer@cpcug.digex.net's message of 11 Feb 1995 22: 39:55 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: MIME uses it's on encoding scheme. You'll need to find a MIME compliant program (normally a mailer) to translate it. On the PC you might try Pegasus. MIME is NOT the same as uuencode. -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 05:18:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00965; Sun, 12 Feb 95 05:18:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07111; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:57:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07105; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:57:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rddgV-00038DC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 04:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Filtering Mail FAQ Date: 12 Feb 1995 12:44:20 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Archive-name: mail/filtering-faq Posting-frequency: approximately monthly Last-modified: 17 November 1994 _____________________________________________________ _________| |_________ \ | | / \ | FILTERING MAIL FAQ | / \ | | / \ | | / / | Copyright (c) 1994 Nancy McGough | \ / | | \ / |_____________________________________________________| \ /____________) (___________\ TABLE OF CONTENTS 0.0 About this Article ... 0.1 Copyright Notice ... 0.2 Acknowledgements ... 0.3 Terminology and Notation ... 0.4 Getting the Latest Version of This Article ... 0.5 Reading the Hypertext Version of This Article ... 0.6 Reading the Plain Text Version of This Article 1.0 Naming Your Incoming Mail Folders 2.0 Procmail ... 2.1 Setting Up Procmail ... 2.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail ... 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe ... 2.4 Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail ... 2.5 Procmail References 3.0 Filter ... 3.1 Setting up Filter ... 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail ... 3.3 Filter References 4.0 Reading Incoming Mail Folders 5.0 Contributing to this FAQ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 0.0 About this Article Q: How can I have my incoming mail messages automatically put into an appropriate folder? This is one of the most frequently asked questions about email. This article is the first release of an FAQ that addresses this question. This version gives basic instructions for how to set up either procmail or Elm's filter to filter incoming mailing list messages. Future versions of this FAQ will include instructions for doing other things like automatically replying to certain messages. If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This recommendation is almost universal; even the Elm and filter developers recommend procmail over filter. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.1 Copyright Notice Copyright (c) 1994 by Nancy McGough. No portion of this work may be sold or put to commercial use without express written consent of the author. This restriction covers publication in any form, or distribution by any method, which permits this work to be visually perceived, either directly or with the aid of any machine or device. Permission is granted to republish or redistribute this article in its entirety for noncommercial use if this copyright notice is not removed or altered. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.2 Acknowledgements Thanks to these people who sent suggestions: David L. Miller Cookie Monster Jim Showalter David W. Tamkin Rick Troxel Stephen R. van den Berg Syd Weinstein Special thanks to: Thomas A. Fine for setting up and maintaining the hypertext archive of FAQs. Congratulations to him for winning O'Reilly and Associates' "The Best of the Net" award! Please let me know if I've left you, or anyone else, out of this list. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.3 Terminology and Notation Term Meaning ==== ======= FTP File Transfer Protocol HTML HyperText Markup Language HTTP HyperText Transport Protocol mailer Mail user agent (MUA) such as Pine or Elm pico PIne COmposer - friendly editor that's part of the Pine package RFC Internet "Request For Comments" document URL Uniform Resource Locator (specified in RFC1630) ^x Press the Ctrl key and then, while holding down the Ctrl key, press the x key ~ Your home directory $HOME (see * below) * In this article I use ~ (tilde) to mean your home directory. Note that some shells, such as the Bourne shell (sh), do not understand the tilde notation so you will need to use $HOME instead. You can always get to your home directory by typing ``cd''. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:40 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.4 Getting the Latest Version of This Article If this article is over two months old then there is probably an updated version of it in all the usual archives. Please get the latest version from one of these places: World Wide Web (the nicest format for online reading!): http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html Anonymous FTP: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Email: Send mail to mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu containing the following: send usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq UUCP: uunet!/archive/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:50 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.5 Reading the Hypertext Version of This Article The best way to read this FAQ (and most other FAQs too) is to view the hypertext version using a Web browser such as Lynx, Mosaic, Netscape, WinWeb, or Cello. This will allow you to easily jump: * between subjects in this article * to a Uniform Resource Locator (URL) * to an Internet Request For Comments document (RFC) * to some manual pages This, and all FAQs that are crossposted to news.answers, can be accessed through: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/top.html This particular FAQ is at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:00:60 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 0.6 Reading the Plain Text Version of This Article If you are reading the plain text version (i.e., not the hypertext version) of this FAQ it is in RFC1153 digest format which means each subject is formatted as a mini mail message with its own Date, From, and Subject (and sometimes Followup-To) headers. Some newsreaders and mailers make it really easy to jump to a subject in an article that is in digest format. Here are instruction for some newsreaders: * NN's default is to split a digest and present each digest item on the menu. If you have changed the default by putting ``set split off'' in your ~/.nn/init file then you can split an article that is in digest format by typing G% while viewing it. This will present each digest item on a submenu. You can then read, followup-to, save, print, etc. individual digest items. * In trn (and its relatives like rn and strn) you can type ^g (Ctrl key and g key pressed together) to skip to the next line that begins with "Subject: " * In emacs GNUS, C-c C-n will skip to the next digest article (C-C C-p will go back to the previous digest article). If your newsreader or mailer does not have a built-in command that allows you to easily read a digest you can pipe the article to ``formail -ds'' which will split the article into separate mail messages, and then you can use your mailer or newsreader (if it can read mail folders) to read the folder. For example, here's what you would do in Tin while viewing the article: Type... In order to... ------- -------------- | Pipe a Specify the article is to be piped formail -ds >> ~/mail/faq.split Split the digest into individual messages and put them in a file named ~/mail/faq.split. (Replace ~/mail with your folder directory.) pine -if faq.split Use Pine to read the newly created folder. For more information see the formail(1) man pages. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:01:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 1.0 Naming Your Incoming Mail Folders For my incoming mail folders I use names that start with ``IN''. For example, I put mail sent to the procmail mailing list into a folder named IN.procmail. I do this so that when all my folders are listed alphabetically the incoming folders are together and near the top. They are near the top because Unix is case sensitive and upper case letters come before lower case letters in an ascii sort. Of course, you can use any names you like for your mail folders. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 2.0 Procmail Procmail is a powerful mail processor that can be used to process your mail messages either as they arrive or after they are in a mail folder. This version of the FAQ describes the basics of setting up procmail to filter incoming mailing list messages. To find out how to process existing mail folders see the NOTES section of the procmail(1) man page. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.1 Setting Up Procmail 1] Find out if procmail is on your system and what the full path to it is. If you are using csh type: which procmail Or if you are using sh or ksh type: type procmail If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``whereis'' and ``where''. If your system doesn't have procmail ask your system administrator to install it. If your sys admin isn't able to do this, use a different mail processor like deliver, mailagent, or filter (described in part 2 of this FAQ). 2a] Create ~/.procmailrc. (Note that throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.) cd pico .procmailrc 2b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.procmailrc. Note that lines that begin with # are comments and are ignored by procmail. #Set on when debugging VERBOSE=off #Replace ``mail'' with your mail directory (Pine uses mail, Elm uses Mail) MAILDIR=$HOME/mail #Directory for storing procmail log and rc files PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.test INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.folders 3] Create the directory where you will store your procmail log and rc files (this is $PMDIR that you set above). cd mkdir .procmail 4a] Create an rc (run commands) file for testing: cd cd .procmail pico rc.test 4b] Enter the following in ~/.procmail/rc.test: :0: * ^Subject: .*test IN.testing Note that the first line contains a zero (0), not the letter "oh". For now, don't worry about the meaning of this recipe. It is explained in the subject "Explanation of Test Recipe" below. 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include all the quotes, both double (") and single ('). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for procmail (see step 1). * Replace ``nancym'' with your userid. You need to put your userid in your .forward so that it will be different than any other .forward file on your system. * Do NOT use environment variables, like $HOME, in your .forward file. * Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file: If procmail resides below your home directory write out the *full* path. 5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject and one without ``test'' in the subject. 7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject should be in the folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing and the one without ``test'' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were delivered correctly go on to step 8. 7b] TROUBLESHOOTING * If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your $LOGFILE (~/.procmail/log) to see if you can determine what the problem is. * Check these three files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.procmailrc ~/.procmail/rc.test * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.procmailrc so that it contains: VERBOSE=on And repeat steps 6 and 7. If you are still having problems see the subject "Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail" below. 8a] Once you have successfully tested procmail in steps 6 and 7, create rc.folders for filtering incoming messages into mail folders. cd cd .procmail pico rc.folders 8b] Enter a modified version of the following in ~/.procmail/rc.folders :0: * ^TOwww-talk IN.www-talk :0: * ^TOprocmail IN.procmail The first recipe filters the www-talk mailing list and the second recipe filters the procmail mailing lists The meaning of the first recipe is as follows: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^TO Match ``To:'' ``Cc:'' or other synonyms for To at the beginning of a line, followed by any or no characters, followed by.... www-talk ``www-talk'' IN.www-talk If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.www-talk Create a recipe for each of your mailing lists. Make sure that you use ``^TO'' with no space between the caret (^) and the word ``TO'', and that both letters are capitalized -- if you don't it won't work. Note that ^TO is not a normal regular expression. It is a special procmail expression that is designed to catch any destination specification. See the MISCELLANEOUS section of the procmailrc(5) man page for details. For examples, see procmailex(5) man page. 9] Repeat steps 6 and 7 to make sure that things are still working. 10] Comment out the rc.test line in you .procmailrc file so that it looks like this: VERBOSE=off MAILDIR=$HOME/mail PMDIR=$HOME/.procmail LOGFILE=$PMDIR/log # INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.test INCLUDERC=$PMDIR/rc.folders Note that it's useful to leave the rc.test line there for future testing. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail There is a useful script, which is part of the procmail package, for checking your procmail log file called mailstat. Check to see if it is on your system by typing either ``which mailstat'' or ``type mailstat''. If it's on your system type: mailstat $HOME/.procmail/log This displays a concise version of your log file and moves your log file to log.old. You may want to put the above line in your .login so that each time you log in you will see a listing of how many messages you've received since the last time you ran mailstat, and what folders these messages were delivered to. You can get a mailstat listing of log.old by using the -o flag: mailstat -o $HOME/.procmail/log If mailstat is not on your system ask your system administrator to install it. It is located with all the other procmail tools at: ftp://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.3 Explanation of Test Recipe The recipe we used for testing is: :0: * ^Subject: .*test IN.testing The meaning of this recipe is: Notation Meaning ======== ======= :0 Begin a recipe : Use a lock file * Begin a condition ^ Match the beginning of a line followed by.... Subject: ``Subject:'' followed by.... . a space followed by any character (.) followed by.... * 0 or more of preceding character (any character in this case) followed by.... test ``test'' IN.testing If successful match, put in folder $MAILDIR/IN.testing ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:40 GMT From: "Stephen R. van den Berg" Subject: ... 2.4 Troubleshooting: Alternate .forward Files for Procmail If the .forward template in 5b above doesn't work the following alternatives might be helpful: In a perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In an almost perfect world: "|exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In another world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" In a different world: "|IFS=' ';exec /usr/local/bin/procmail USER=nancym" In a smrsh world: "|/usr/local/bin/procmail #nancym" These formats can be tried in different combinations, the leading "| can be tried as |" instead, or vice versa. Some systems do not need a .forward file (i.e., having a .procmailrc file suffices if procmail already is the local delivery agent). ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:02:50 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 2.5 Procmail References Manuals: procmail(1) - autonomous mail processor procmailrc(5) - procmail rc file procmailex(5) - procmail rc file examples procmailsc(5) - procmail weighted scoring techique egrep(1) - search file for regular expression (procmail uses egrep-style regular exprssions along with some of its own expressions like ^TO) formail(1) - mail reformatter sendmail(8) - send mail over the internet Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc Mailing List: procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subscribe to the procmail mailing list by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: subscribe Procmail Archives: Get a list of files available at the procmail mail server by sending mail: To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive ls Get Best of the Procmail mailing list by sending mail (you'll need gzip and a MIME-decoder to unpack it): To: procmail-request@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Subject: archive get best_of_procmail_list* ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 3.0 Filter Filter is part of the Elm package of tools. Note that you can use filter to filter your incoming mail even if you are not using Elm to read your mail. IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If your system has both procmail and filter installed then you should use procmail which is *much* more robust and powerful than filter. This recommendation is almost universal; even the developers of Elm and Filter recommend procmail over filter. IT IS POSSIBLE TO LOSE MAIL MESSAGES WHEN USING FILTER; this is rare but it has happened. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:10 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 3.1 Setting up Filter Followup-To: comp.mail.elm 1] Find out if filter is on your system and what the full path to it is. If you are using the C shell (csh) type: which filter Or, if you are using the Korn shell (ksh) or the Bourne shell (sh) type: type filter If neither ``which'' nor ``type'' are on your system try ``where'' and ``whereis''. If your system doesn't have filter ask your system administrator to install it; or even better ask her to install procmail. 2] Note the full path of your home directory by typing: cd pwd 3a] Create ~/.elm/filter-rules. (Note that throughout this article I use pico for editing files. Replace ``pico'' with your editor.) cd mkdir .elm cd .elm pico filter-rules 3b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.elm/filter-rules if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path (see step 2). Replace /Mail with the name of the directory where your mail folders are stored. Pine and Berkeley Mail use /mail (lower case m) and Elm uses /Mail (upper case M). 4] To see what the filter rule will do type the following at your Unix prompt: filter -r 5a] Create a ~/.forward file by typing the following. (Pico's -w flag tells pico not to auto wrap lines.) cd pico -w .forward 5b] Enter a modified version of the following in your ~/.forward: "|/usr/local/bin/filter -o /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" == IMPORTANT NOTES == * Make sure you include the quotes ("). * The vertical bar (|) is a pipe. * Replace /usr/local/bin with the correct path for filter (see step 1). * Replace /j/nancym with your home directory (see step 2). * Do NOT expect environment variables, like $HOME, to work in your .forward file. * Do NOT expect ~ to mean your home directory in the .forward file. 5c] Note that on many systems you need to make your .forward is world readable and your home directory world searchable in order for the mail transport agent to "see" it. To do this type: cd chmod 644 .forward chmod a+x . 6] Send yourself two test messages: one with ``test'' in the subject and one without ``test'' in the subject. 7a] Start your mailer (pine, elm, etc.) and check that the messages were delivered correctly. The one with ``test'' in the subject should be in the folder IN.testing and the one without ``test'' in the subject should be in your inbox. If these were delivered correctly go on to step 8. 7b] TROUBLESHOOTING * If the two messages were not delivered correctly look at your ~/.elm/filter-errors to see if you can determine what the problem is. * Check these two files for typos: ~/.forward ~/.elm/filter-rules * Check the file and directory permissions of your .forward (set in 5c above). Type... In order to... ------- -------------- cd Go to your home directory. ls -l .forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- ls -ld . Check permission of home dir: it should say drwx?-x?-x The ?'s may be r's or hyphens or one of each (i.e., drwx--x--x, drwxr-xr-x, drwxr-x--x, drwx--xr-x). * If none of these turn up the problem edit your ~/.forward so that filter will be verbose with it's output (use the -vo flag). "|/usr/local/bin/filter -vo /j/nancym/.elm/filter-errors" And repeat steps 6 and 7. After you get filter to work you will probably want to change the ``-vo'' flag back to ``-o''. 8] After you have successfully tested filter in steps 6 and 7, edit ~/.elm/filter-rules so that it contains a modified version of the following: # if (subject contains "test") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.testing" if (to contains "www-talk") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.www-talk" if (to contains "hopos-l") then save "/j/nancym/Mail/IN.hopos" Replace /j/nancym with your home directory path and /Mail with the name of your mail directory. Replace the mailing list string (e.g., "www-talk") and the name of the mail folder (e.g., IN.www-talk) with text for your mailing lists. Note that ``to contains...'' means either the To or Cc header contains... Rather than deleting the test line, it's useful to just turn it into a comment (by preceding it with #) so that you can easily use it for future testing. ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:20 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 3.2 Tracking Your Incoming Mail Followup-To: comp.mail.elm You can get a short summary of filter's activity by typing: filter -s For a longer summary type: filter -S Or you can look at the log file itself, ~/.elm/filterlog. You should regularly look at ~/.elm/filter-errors to make sure things are working. You can automatically check filter-errors each time you log in by putting the following in your .login: tail ~/.elm/filter-errors Also you probably want to regularly delete filterlog and filter-errors so they don't fill up your disk space. To get a summary of the filter log and clear it type: filter -cs ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:03:30 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: ... 3.3 Filter References Followup-To: comp.mail.elm Web Page: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Manual: filter(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:04:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 4.0 Reading Incoming Mail Folders To read an incoming mail folder use your mailer or newsreader (if it can read mail folders). For more information see documentation for your mailer or newsreader. Here are some pointers. PINE ==== FAQ: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq Manual: pine(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.pine (linked to Pine mailing list) Mailing List: pine-info@cac.washington.edu (linked to Pine newsgroup) Subscribe to the pine-info mailing list by sending mail to: majordomo@cac.washington.edu With... subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. ELM === Web Page: http://www.myxa.com/elm.html FAQs: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/elm/top.html Manual: elm(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.elm Emacs Mail Mode =============== Newsgroups: gnus.emacs.help and comp.emacs http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/GNU-Emacs-FAQ/part5/faq.html MH == FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mh-faq/top.html Manual: mh(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.mh MAIL ==== Manual: mail(1) Newsgroup: comp.mail.misc NN == FAQ: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/nn-faq/top.html Manual: nn(1) Newsgroup: news.software.nn (Does anyone know if nn uses lock files? Is there any problem using nn to read a mail folder that is receiving mail? Please let me know!) (Also, please let me know what other newsreaders can read mail folders?) ------------------------------ Date: 17 Nov 1994 23:05:00 GMT From: Nancy McGough Subject: 5.0 Contributing to this FAQ If you have any corrections, suggestions, or new digest items to contribute to this FAQ please send them to me at nancym@ii.com. If you are reading this with a viewer that understands the following URL you can use it to send me mail: mailto:nancym@ii.com Between official releases of this FAQ the plain text (ascii) version of the most up to date version of it is at: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/Internet/filtering_mail_faq End of Filtering Mail Digest **************************** -- /\_/\ ( o.o ) Nancy McGough http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ^ < Infinite Ink ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 09:09:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05246; Sun, 12 Feb 95 09:09:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10077; Sun, 12 Feb 95 09:01:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10071; Sun, 12 Feb 95 09:01:04 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id JAA19434; Sun, 12 Feb 1995 09:00:58 -0800 Message-Id: <199502121700.JAA19434@weber.ucsd.edu> To: K.Davies@mailbox.uq.oz.au (Kevin Davies) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: SCO Sendmail over UUCP Help! In-Reply-To: Your message of "11 Feb 1995 17:55:22 +0000." <3hgubg$gue@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <19423.792608457.1@weber.ucsd.edu> Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 09:00:57 -0800 From: "Michael J. Corrigan" Status: O X-Status: sendmail v8 will bring up the PPP link unless you compile with -DNAMED_BIND=0. get c++ to compile gnu troff by getting gnu gcc and the extra g++ part. > I HAVE to set up sendmail over UUCP. > I *think I have the UUCP setup ok. Well, I can connect and the script works. > I am using SCO's flavour of sendmail and I hear this sendmail v8 is pretty da mn > good. I'll do anything for GOOD documentation *gasp*. > > You see, I got thrown in the deep end and for the past week I have been drown ing. > I was told "please hook us up to the Internet. Thankyou!". Well MMDF looked l ike > the horror story that it is. And the mail program leaves a lot to be desired *yuk*. So > I blithly said nothing and away I went.... Boss won't pay the money for a pro fessional! > > On the first day.... :-) > "What is MMDF?" (Mutant Mungrel Damaged Forwarder?) > "UUCP" oh... I see... ahh connected! WRONG HOSTNAME? > "Changed host name... oops Lotus won't run and no-one can print!" > > On the second day... ;-) > "MMDF - I thought channel was a perfume?" > "New activation key from Lotus and printing fixed!" > "Oh I need to get Pine... ahh! PPP over TCP/IP!" > > On the third day ....:-| > "PPP ... DNS won't work!" > "PPP doesn't work! oh, need upgrade AND patch" > "Hmmm I DO NOT want to use named!" > "Discovered /usr/lib/uucp/uuinstall, hmmm that's a lot easier" > > On the fourth day .... :-( > "Umm why DNS not working? ahh resolv.conf GOD I HATE UNIX!" > "Oh! upgrade TCP/IP and patch! NOW it WORKS, got pine" > "pine man pages? troff/nroff/tbl? You have to BUY THESE EXTRA?" > "Pine uses SENDMAIL? Pine needs libcrypt.a????" > "AhHA! got the crypt lib but its called libcrypt_i.a! hmm: ln libcrypt_i.a li bcrypt.a" > "Activated sendmail byebye MMDF good!" > > On the fifth day ... :-O -> #@%^#$!! > "Compiled gzip, zip, unzip, where do I get troff/nroff/tbl??? gnu version req uires c++!" > "Pine keeps activating the PPP link. I can't have that!" > "Pine is sending mail but to where????" > "Ahhh crontab for UUCPing .... where does sendmail put its stuff?" > "Where does UUCP pick up the mail from (directory)?" > > NOW... *grin* what a week! > So there you go and that is where I am. PPP has been disabled until I can fig ure out > a way to implement some security (someone mentioned TCP/IP wrappers (that's n ext)). > I think I did ok considering I knew NOTHING about the SCO mailing system or s erial > TCP/IP. It was a hell of a ride and it still needs finishing. You see, I left the company on > Friday ... my last day. And knowbody there knows a damn thing about it. I wil l have > to finish it for them but now they will PAY me properly for it. > > It isn't quite working as yet but I am very close... UUCP is ok.. need to set up the crontab > entries. Asking around to find out why Pine is activating the PPP link... in fact it won't > start until the link is up and running! > Next ... Get Pine -> sendmail -> uucp running completely. > Install procmail, and tcp/ip wrappers for PPP link (You see i need to have > telnetd and ftpd running for internal network.) > > *sigh* still got some work to do but at least I have some idea now. > If you can make any suggestions then please do so. I am committed to using UU CP > for mail at this stage. Please forward this to the appropriate groups/people if > required. > > Thankyou sincerely and humbly in advance > > Kevin > > -- A bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a... *splat*... "ann oying!" -- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 09:38:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05807; Sun, 12 Feb 95 09:38:41 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10442; Sun, 12 Feb 95 09:30:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10436; Sun, 12 Feb 95 09:30:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdi0l-00038PC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 09:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: render@massive.uccs.edu (Hal Render) Subject: Re: Full Domain Name in 'From:' field Date: 10 Feb 1995 22:23:39 GMT Message-Id: <3hgp1b$pcf@harpo.uccs.edu> References: <3hag47$p1h@hopi.dtcc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Bob Rahe (bob@hobbes.dtcc.edu) wrote: > You have it exactly. Solaris 2.3 is not returning a FQDN for the function > gethostbyname. Your fix of putting user-domain in pine.conf.fixed will > fix the problem with the From: field. But.... there are two more places that > need to use it and don't. One is the generation of Message-ID:. The RFCs > seem to say that that name needs to be a FQDN also. I fixed that by > changing reply.c in generate_message_id to use "maildomain" which is what > gets set by the user-domain option in the conf.fixed file. It is not uncommon to set the the gethostbyname function to return only the inital machine name, not the FQDN. This is not a bug, it's just the way that some machines are or can be set. Our DECstations do this as do our Suns. Other networked communications packages I have built (tin, rn, elm) realize this, and allow you to define a constant somewhere in the source that gives the remainder of the domain name. This is appended to the machine name returned by gethostbyname whenever it is called. Why doesn't Pine? I ask this because we are having the same problem here (with both mail messages and news postings from by Pine) and I've been looking for a simple, clean patch. I guess I don't understand why this isn't a problem for any of these other programs like it is for Pine. Anyway, let me through in a "me too" and ask if anyone else has a simple patch for this. BTW, has this been reported as a bug to the Pine developers? I was going to, but I was trying to find out if I had simply missed something in the FAQ. -- hal render univ. of colorado at colorado springs render@massive.uccs.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 09:55:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06098; Sun, 12 Feb 95 09:55:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10173; Sun, 12 Feb 95 09:47:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10167; Sun, 12 Feb 95 09:47:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdiED-00038RC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 09:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz (Jonathan Chen) Subject: Re: Mail bombs - how to avoid? Date: 10 Feb 1995 16:32:31 +1300 Message-Id: <3hemof$6oi@kea.pinnacle.co.nz> References: <3h8nc5$9nd@gco.apana.org.au> Status: O X-Status: In <3h8nc5$9nd@gco.apana.org.au> stevew@gco.apana.org.au (Steven Williams) writes: >Hi Everyone, > >I'm being constantly mail bomed, and would like to set up a function in >pine to delete or return any mail sent to me from an address. I know >about the .forward command, is there one for this sort of thing? > >Thanks in advance, > >Steven. > Get your hands on procmail and install it (if it hasn't already been installed on your box). Have all your mail piped to procmail (ie ~/.forward file contains "| /usr/local/bin/procmail") and using appropriate rules to filter your mail in ~/.procmailrc, you can sort/bounce/discard your mail according to sender, subject, mail-text and other criteria. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Chen ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 10:49:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07149; Sun, 12 Feb 95 10:49:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10822; Sun, 12 Feb 95 10:40:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mote.Berkeley.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10816; Sun, 12 Feb 95 10:40:54 -0800 Received: by mote.Berkeley.EDU (5.57/1.28) id AA12761; Sun, 12 Feb 95 10:40:52 -0800 Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 10:40:51 -0800 (PST) From: Eric Mockensturm To: Juliet Lim Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mac and PINE In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is the printer is attached to the Mac or the Unix machine? On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Juliet Lim wrote: > > I am using a Mac as a terminal with a SLIP (INTERSlip) connection to a UNIX > host. How do I print my e-mail while inside the PINE program? When I > press Y (for PrYnt), the mail is printed on the screen, not on the > attached printer as should be. > > Pleae reply by e-mail (if possible) to juliet@ait.ac.th > > Thanks for any response. > > Juliet > Eric Mockensturm Dynamic Stability Lab 1113 Etcheverry Hall University of California - Berkeley (510) 642-6371 http://mote.berkeley.edu/~eric/eric.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 11:15:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07672; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:15:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11646; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:07:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11640; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:07:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdjYf-00038DC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xmedh02@dec59.ruk.cuni.cz (Hynek Med) Subject: How to make pine not to erase type-ahead buffer when it quits? Date: 12 Feb 1995 16:26:54 GMT Message-Id: <3hlcse$hv5@dec59.ruk.cuni.cz> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I'd like my pine (on Ultrix and on SunOs 4) not to erase the type-ahead buffer when quitting. I assume I'd need to change the source, but I'm not enough skilled in C to find it.. Would someone help? Hynek -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 11:25:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07898; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:25:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11294; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:17:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11288; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:17:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdjhu-00038PC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stalex@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Alexander G Stavitsky) Subject: BASE64 ? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 01:15:46 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to suppress BASE64 encoding while sending 8-bit messages or at least set another encoding method the receipent can understand? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 11:35:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08155; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:35:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11928; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:27:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bock.ucs.ualberta.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11922; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:27:44 -0800 Received: from gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca by bock.ucs.ualberta.ca with ESMTP (8.6.5/UA2.0.0.93Dec20) id MAA23094 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 1995 12:27:38 -0700 Received: from gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (sholstea@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.125.10]) by gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id MAA47386; Sun, 12 Feb 1995 12:27:40 -0700 Received: by gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (8.6.9) id MAA82525; Sun, 12 Feb 1995 12:27:38 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 12:27:37 -0700 (MST) From: Steve Holstead To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 11 Feb 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > Steve, > On the AIX system, do you mean that if someone disconnects *and* their > shell is tcsh, then Pine runs wild? That is correct. My experience on both OSF1/2.0 and AIX/3.25 has produced this annoyance. When users in the PC labs disconnect, pine spins out. The method of the disconnect was something to do with a Cntrl+X type of disconnect. I could do some more digging if it would help. > Or does it happen with tcsh even if you are not disconnected? > > In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem > on OSF? Yes. I could recreate the problem with csh and OSF. By moving to tcsh, I was able to eliminate the problem. I did some tests with AIX and csh with earlier versions of pine without being able to recreate the problem. Now with pine3.91, I see the same problem I encountered with OSF. I was hoping that someone was aware of this problem and that there was a solution already out there. If you wish I could do some more testing of this? ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Holstead University of Alberta Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 C A N A D A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 11:46:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08454; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:46:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12075; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:37:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12069; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:37:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdjzR-00038DC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael V Mirkin Subject: hhsgbd Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 15:51:00 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: jskj From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 11:55:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08626; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:55:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11697; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:47:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11691; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:47:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdkBR-00038DC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 11:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hank Burchard Subject: "Error Posting Message...." Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 13:49:40 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: When I tried posting a reply to a newsgroup, using precisely the same procedures as usual, I got the message: ERROR POSTING MESSAGE 441 400 NO SPACE LEFT ON DEVICE WRITING ARTICLE FILE. Say what? I got the same result when trying to post this message; I postponed both and later was able to send the first. If you see this, it obviously finally got out also. What's happening? + + + + + Hank Burchard * Weekend Section * The Washington Post 1150 15th Street NW * Washington DC USA 20071-0001 VoiceMail (202) 334-7243 * Email: burchard@twp.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 12:25:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09294; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:25:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12585; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:17:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12579; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:17:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdkf3-00038DC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sholstea@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Steve Holstead) Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes Date: 12 Feb 1995 19:41:11 GMT Message-Id: <3hlo8n$bhe@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <3hgb88$nje@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Status: O X-Status: Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Steve, : On the AIX system, do you mean that if someone disconnects *and* their : shell is tcsh, then Pine runs wild? Yes. : Or does it happen with tcsh even if : you are not disconnected? : In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem : on OSF? Yes : -teg : On 10 Feb 1995, Steve Holstead wrote: : > Sherry H. Lake (slake@osf1.gmu.edu) wrote: : > : Machine: DEC 2100 (alpha) running OSF/1 3.0 : > : Pine 3.91 : > : > : Problem: Users are not properly logging off their accounts and pine : > : processes are eating between 10 and 60 % of the CPU. : > : > This is also happening on AIX3.25 with a default shell of tcsh. This : > problem is quite serious, due to our 400 concurrent users over 3 machines. : > : > I did experience Sherry's problem in a OSF/1 2.0 environment, and the : > problem went away by changing the default shell to tcsh. : > : > Any info would be *greatly* appericiated! : > : > -- : > ______________________________________________________________________________ : > : > Steve Holstead University of Alberta : > Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services : > Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group : > Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building : > Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 : > C A N A D A : > : > -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Holstead University of Alberta Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 C A N A D A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 12:25:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09316; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:25:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12064; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:17:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12058; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:17:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdkh9-00038OC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mojo@cs1.bradley.edu (Tony Bailey) Subject: Pine and PGP and Decoding Date: 12 Feb 1995 13:41:04 -0600 Message-Id: <3hlo8g$a1e@cs1.bradley.edu> Status: O X-Status: I have been using the mkpgp program for some time to integrate PGP and Pine to encode messages. The problem is, I haven't yet figured out a good way to decode the mesage without using multiple files and ^Zing out. Is there a good way/script to decode a PGP encoded message I receive? Tony Bailey -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 12:36:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09479; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:36:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12189; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:27:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12183; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:27:20 -0800 Received: from wesson.wylie.com by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12059; Sun, 12 Feb 95 12:27:17 -0800 Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 15:27:33 -30000 From: "Stephen R. Wylie" Subject: Re: Mail bombs - how to avoid? To: Jonathan Chen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3hemof$6oi@kea.pinnacle.co.nz> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 10 Feb 1995, Jonathan Chen wrote: > Date: 10 Feb 1995 16:32:31 +1300 > From: Jonathan Chen > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: Mail bombs - how to avoid? > > In <3h8nc5$9nd@gco.apana.org.au> > stevew@gco.apana.org.au (Steven Williams) writes: > > >Hi Everyone, > > > >I'm being constantly mail bomed, and would like to set up a function in > >pine to delete or return any mail sent to me from an address. I know > >about the .forward command, is there one for this sort of thing? > > > >Thanks in advance, > > > >Steven. > > > > Get your hands on procmail and install it (if it hasn't already been installed > on your box). Have all your mail piped to procmail (ie ~/.forward file contains > "| /usr/local/bin/procmail") and using appropriate rules to filter your > mail in ~/.procmailrc, you can sort/bounce/discard your mail according to > sender, subject, mail-text and other criteria. > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jonathan Chen > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > I have found a version of procmail that will not successfully compile on linux. does anyone know of a version or port of procmail for linux? thanx in advance. srw ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stephen R. Wylie http://www.mindspring.com/~swylie/ computer geek Internet Email: swylie@wylie.com 82KZ550-C LINUX FREAK Finger for PGP public key ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Atlanta, GA "I'm your icecreamman; stop me when I'm passing by" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 13:59:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11247; Sun, 12 Feb 95 13:59:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13722; Sun, 12 Feb 95 13:47:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13716; Sun, 12 Feb 95 13:47:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdm3R-00038DC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 13:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@eratosthenes.math.utah.edu (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: How do I setup pine to read newsgroups Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 16:05:40 GMT References: <3hkh4i$smc@kiwi.futuris.net> In-Reply-To: tcoates@callnet.com's message of 12 Feb 1995 08: 33:22 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: 1: Make sure you have PIne 3.90 or higher. 2: Set the nntp-server to your news server. -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 15:36:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13178; Sun, 12 Feb 95 15:36:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15017; Sun, 12 Feb 95 15:28:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zeus.towson.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15011; Sun, 12 Feb 95 15:28:36 -0800 Received: by zeus.towson.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA24021; Sun, 12 Feb 95 18:27:37 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 18:27:37 -0500 (EST) From: Carissa Sweeney To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I REALLY NEED SOME HELP AND I CAN'T FIND ANY. I NEED TO LEARN HOW TO CONNECT TO NEWS GROUPS AND HOW TO TALK TO OTHERS. PLEASE SOMEBODY, I AM GOING CRAZY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE THIS THING. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 16:27:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14320; Sun, 12 Feb 95 16:27:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15264; Sun, 12 Feb 95 16:18:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15258; Sun, 12 Feb 95 16:18:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdoQN-00038OC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 16:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: K.Davies@mailbox.uq.oz.au (Kevin Davies) Subject: Pine will not start UNLESS... help! Date: Sat, 11 Feb 95 15:59:15 GMT Message-Id: <3hgnhr$gue@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Status: O X-Status: System is SCO Unix 3.2v4.2. with SCO TCP/IP 1.2.1 with 389D patch I have a PPP link setup under SCO so we can Telnet out to other sites. When I run pine it will not start until until the PPP link is established. In fact whatever it seems to do makes the link start up of it own accord. If it does a Domain Name Search then yes the link will start up as the system points to a external DNS through the /etc/resolv.conf file. I have not specified any SMPT addresses. What is it doing? How do I stop this? Thanks in advance Kevin F. Davies -- A bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a bug is a... *splat*... "annoying!" -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 16:37:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14604; Sun, 12 Feb 95 16:37:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15798; Sun, 12 Feb 95 16:29:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15792; Sun, 12 Feb 95 16:29:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdoYL-00038DC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 16:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abennett@iglou.com (Andrew Bennett) Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 23:57:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: In , sholstea@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca (Steve Holstead) writes: >On Sat, 11 Feb 1995, Terry Gray wrote: > >> Steve, >> On the AIX system, do you mean that if someone disconnects *and* their >> shell is tcsh, then Pine runs wild? > >That is correct. My experience on both OSF1/2.0 and AIX/3.25 has produced >this annoyance. When users in the PC labs disconnect, pine spins out. >The method of the disconnect was something to do with a Cntrl+X type of >disconnect. I could do some more digging if it would help. I have seen similiar problems under BSDI and Pine 3.91. A user disconnects, and their Pine image goes hog-wild in the background, sucking up as much CPU time as it can get. >> Or does it happen with tcsh even if you are not disconnected? >> >> In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem >> on OSF? > >Yes. I could recreate the problem with csh and OSF. By moving to tcsh, I >was able to eliminate the problem. All the problems on the machine I administer have been with the tcsh shell and Pine. Most of the users use tcsh anyways. It is a most annoying problem, though. Andrew -- (c) 1995, Andrew Bennett abennett@hyperreal.com, abennett@iglou.com Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23448; Sun, 12 Feb 95 23:07:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21302; Sun, 12 Feb 95 22:58:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21296; Sun, 12 Feb 95 22:58:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rduac-00038DC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 22:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: xcaliber@eden.rutgers.edu (Commodore 64) Subject: Re: Pine as a News Reader Date: 13 Feb 1995 00:05:49 -0500 Message-Id: <3hmpbd$gsf@er7.rutgers.edu> References: <3hbm0h$4r5@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know why one would get a 502 Permission Denied error when trying to access a newsgroup, in fact all of them? I put in the correct nntp server and it works fine under nn but I would really like to user Pine instead. Help! -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 12 23:48:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24163; Sun, 12 Feb 95 23:48:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21165; Sun, 12 Feb 95 23:40:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21157; Sun, 12 Feb 95 23:40:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdvF2-00038PC; Sun, 12 Feb 95 23:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gt0659d@prism.gatech.edu (Sasha Patrick Block) Subject: Whats the difference? Date: 12 Feb 1995 23:08:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3hmlvp$mqo@acmez.gatech.edu> Status: O X-Status: Can someone tell me the difference between the pine mail system and the elm mail system? -Thanks respond to gt0659d@prism.gatech.edu -- Sasha Patrick Block Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332 uucp: ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt0659d Internet: gt0659d@prism.gatech.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 00:36:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25186; Mon, 13 Feb 95 00:36:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22450; Mon, 13 Feb 95 00:26:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lgsx01.lg.ehu.es by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22444; Mon, 13 Feb 95 00:26:13 -0800 Received: from lgdx02.lg.ehu.es by lgsx01.lg.ehu.es (4.1/4.7 ) id AA13123; Mon, 13 Feb 95 09:27:40 GMT Received: by lgdx02.lg.ehu.es (5.65/4.7) id AA26945; Mon, 13 Feb 1995 09:26:12 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 09:26:12 +0000 (WET) From: Roberto Ortiz de Zarate Arce Subject: On the incoming-folders To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Estimated sirs, My sysadmin recently migrated me to PINE (ver. 3.89). I've found very easy and confortable to work, but I haven't found the posibility to discriminate the incoming mail to concrete folders. I'd tried to configurate the incoming-folders line in the .pinerc file, editing, as Release Notes say, but without outcomes. I wonder if its possible re-directionate the incoming messages with regards to their from, to, subject, date and other headers, such as its possible in the sorting option, to the folders I desire. Pine has been recently setting up here, instead of the EAN software, and some users very busy in listservs and mailing lists estimate useful this option. I request you because our postmasters and sysadmins unknow this (they should to) Very thanks for your assistance: Roberto Ortiz de Zarate Computer Centre, Univ. of Bilbao Spain From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 00:57:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25647; Mon, 13 Feb 95 00:57:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22738; Mon, 13 Feb 95 00:48:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway1.DHL.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22732; Mon, 13 Feb 95 00:48:37 -0800 Received: from lhrsys1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM by gateway1.DHL.COM id aa20941; 13 Feb 95 1:33 PST Received: from lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM by lhrsys1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM with SMTP (1.36.108.7/2.03-DSI) id AA11595; Mon, 13 Feb 1995 08:51:47 GMT Received: (from stares@localhost) by lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA10084; Mon, 13 Feb 1995 08:48:00 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 08:47:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM X-Sender: stares@lhroas1.lhr-sys.bru-ro.dhl.com To: "Stephen R. Wylie" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mail bombs - how to avoid? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed are my own and not my employers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 12 Feb 1995, Stephen R. Wylie wrote: > > > I have found a version of procmail that will not successfully compile on > linux. does anyone know of a version or port of procmail for linux? > > thanx in advance. > > > srw > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Stephen R. Wylie http://www.mindspring.com/~swylie/ > computer geek Internet Email: swylie@wylie.com > 82KZ550-C LINUX FREAK Finger for PGP public key ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > Atlanta, GA "I'm your icecreamman; stop me when I'm passing by" > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Get the latest version of procmail - it compiled "out of the box" on my Linux system. You can get the latest version from: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.225.3) as (g)zipped tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz as compressed tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.Z ---- Stuart Tares Email : Stuart.Tares@lhr-sys.bru-ro.DHL.COM Senior Network Analyst Voice : +44 181 742 4060 DHL Systems Ltd, CSG Europe & Africa Region From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 02:21:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27744; Mon, 13 Feb 95 02:21:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23843; Mon, 13 Feb 95 02:10:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23837; Mon, 13 Feb 95 02:10:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdxWk-00038DC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 01:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@calum.csclub.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 09:08:48 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article , Andrew Bennett wrote: >I have seen similiar problems under BSDI and Pine 3.91. A user disconnects, >and their Pine image goes hog-wild in the background, sucking up as much CPU >time as it can get. The former sysadmin at this side had pine aliased to a script that would run pine, and then at the end of the session would check to see if the sucker was still going. I think he also killed the process if it was, but he at least sent a message to the user, reminding them to cleanup their pine processes. - frank -- ********************************************************************** * You may be right. I may be crazy. But it just may be a lunatic * * you're looking for. - Billy Joel * *************************** Frank Yao, fyao@csclub.uwaterloo.ca ****** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 02:37:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28110; Mon, 13 Feb 95 02:37:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23313; Mon, 13 Feb 95 02:25:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23307; Mon, 13 Feb 95 02:25:21 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 13 Feb 95 18:24:55 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 18:24:54 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Roberto Ortiz de Zarate Arce Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: On the incoming-folders In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, Roberto Ortiz de Zarate Arce wrote: > My sysadmin recently migrated me to PINE (ver. 3.89). I've found very easy > and confortable to work, but I haven't found the posibility to discriminate > the incoming mail to concrete folders. I'd tried to configurate the > incoming-folders line in the .pinerc file, editing, as Release Notes say, > but without outcomes. > I wonder if its possible re-directionate the incoming messages with regards > to their from, to, subject, date and other headers, such as its possible > in the sorting option, to the folders I desire. > > Pine has been recently setting up here, instead of the EAN software, and > some users very busy in listservs and mailing lists estimate useful this > option. I request you because our postmasters and sysadmins unknow this > (they should to) The feature you are looking for is not part of pine. To do what you want you will need to acquire "filter" program such as "procmail" or "filter" (from the elm distribution) etc. One place to acquire promail would be: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 03:58:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00154; Mon, 13 Feb 95 03:58:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24372; Mon, 13 Feb 95 03:49:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24366; Mon, 13 Feb 95 03:49:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdzAd-00038DC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 03:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: Using Pine as Newsreader Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 13:17:20 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3h61hr$mp5@news1.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3h61hr$mp5@news1.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: No, but you can tab through news groups, and Pine won't stop at any that are empty. ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ On 6 Feb 1995, Don Stimson wrote: > I just configured pine to be used as a newsreader and was amazed at how > fast it got me to the actual newsgroups. What I need to know is how to > get pine, if it can, to list how many entrees are listed in each > newsgroup. Tin does this so I know when to go into a newsgroup and when > not to (nothing there). Can pine do the same. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 03:59:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00176; Mon, 13 Feb 95 03:59:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25049; Mon, 13 Feb 95 03:49:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25043; Mon, 13 Feb 95 03:49:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdzAW-00038CC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 03:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: Missing Newsreader Features (?) Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 13:19:19 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: This one's easily done: try hitting & when in the index. ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, David Soergel wrote: > 3. Undelete newsgroup messages. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 04:21:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01294; Mon, 13 Feb 95 04:21:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24875; Mon, 13 Feb 95 04:10:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24869; Mon, 13 Feb 95 04:10:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdzQA-00038CC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 03:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul E. Jones" Subject: PINE and NNTP on same machine Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 04:03:03 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone! I am trying to get pine to read and post news articles to our local machine. In the past, I have been using cnews and nn for news, but users would rather use pine to read and post news instead of nn. So what I did was get a copy of nntp and compiled it. In the pine.conf file, I have this line: nntp-server=thehill.chrh.org (our "local" machine) Which causes pine to properly post news, but I can't read news. If I try to read news, I get the following error: "No state for newsgroup found. Reading as new" To overcome this problem, I have this line: news-collections=News *[] Is this an acceptable configuration, or is there a problem with the nntp communication that will not allow reading? I am new to "nntp", so it is quite possible that I do not have something configured correctly. I'd appreciate any tips! Paul Jones ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul E. Jones paulej@aol.com or pej@chrh.org "These are my opinions. They might not be much, but they're all mine!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 04:40:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01700; Mon, 13 Feb 95 04:40:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25771; Mon, 13 Feb 95 04:29:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25765; Mon, 13 Feb 95 04:29:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rdzjE-00038MC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 04:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: goirand@ella (GOIRAND Eric) Subject: Pine printing problem ... Date: 13 Feb 1995 12:16:40 GMT Message-Id: <3hnij8$d4p@nef.ens.fr> Status: O X-Status: Hi everybody, I am using pine-3.91 with the character set ISO-8859-1 to display the accents of some european langages. When I read the mails everything is fine, I can visualize these accents. Unfortunately, when I want to print them, I can't manage getting the proper accentuation. For example the character \`e (tex) becomes =E8 !!! Has anybody solved this problem before ? If you have, could you please send me your solution, my email address is 'goirand@lmd.ens.fr'. Thanks in advance, best regards, Eric Goirand, Phd student of the University Paris 6, France. goirand@lmd.ens.fr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 06:13:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04042; Mon, 13 Feb 95 06:13:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26339; Mon, 13 Feb 95 06:01:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26327; Mon, 13 Feb 95 06:01:43 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA28878; Sun, 12 Feb 1995 00:54:57 +0500 Date: Sun, 12 Feb 1995 00:54:57 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Qmodem and "attached-to-ansi" Printing Problem In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 0 Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, michael wallendahl wrote: > I may be wrong, but I think that the "print-to-attched-printer" only > works under vt100 style emulation. > > I use TeleMate myself, and it works perfectly when I use VT-102 > emulation. Just hit "Y" and out comes my e-mail on my dot matrix. :) Problem is, the vt100/vt102 terminal emulation in many telecomm programs is incomplete, so the software doesn't know what to do with the print job. In some cases the message text prints to the screen instead of to the printer. In other cases, nothing happens at all. The workaround is to use Pine's export command (e) to save the message as a text file in your home directory, then cat the file to your screen, capturing it on the fly to your own computer, or download it to your computer and print it from there. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 06:19:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04141; Mon, 13 Feb 95 06:19:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26533; Mon, 13 Feb 95 06:14:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26527; Mon, 13 Feb 95 06:14:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re1Rz-00038LC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 06:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tcoates@callnet.com (Tom Coates) Subject: Re: How do I setup pine to read newsgroups Date: 13 Feb 1995 13:58:57 GMT Message-Id: <3hnoj1$efk@kiwi.futuris.net> References: <3hkh4i$smc@kiwi.futuris.net> Status: O X-Status: Chris Alfeld (calfeld@eratosthenes.math.utah.edu) wrote: : 1: Make sure you have PIne 3.90 or higher. : 2: Set the nntp-server to your news server. : -- : -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) : Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ Being that I am completely new to this, how exactly do I setup pine to do it? I am using verion 3.91 Tom. -- ___ ___ _-==-_ (___)---------------------------------------------------(___) / .. \__| | Thomas A. Coates | | /| --' |___) | (http://callnet.com/pub/tcoates/html/my.html) | | || | | | (ftp callnet.com/pub/tcoates) | | (___\/___) |___| (tcoates@callnet.com) |___| (___)---------------------------------------------------(___) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 07:05:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05612; Mon, 13 Feb 95 07:05:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28015; Mon, 13 Feb 95 06:59:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27923; Mon, 13 Feb 95 06:54:52 -0800 Received: from commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (PP); Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:45:50 +0000 Received: from bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA073326748; Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:45:48 +0100 Received: by bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (4.1/ZDV-Uni-Tuebingen-1.0) id AA29170; Mon, 13 Feb 95 15:45:47 +0100 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:45:44 +0100 (MET) From: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de X-Sender: zrnsm01@bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: auto-move-read-msgs via IMAP Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Dear all, last week I asked the same question, however didn't get an answer. So here it goes again: Does auto-move-read-msgs also work when connected to a remote incoming folder via IMAP? My experience says no. What's yours? Thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Spohn | Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 07:38:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06878; Mon, 13 Feb 95 07:38:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28636; Mon, 13 Feb 95 07:31:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scorpio.gold.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28574; Mon, 13 Feb 95 07:30:33 -0800 Received: from pc438.gold.ac.uk by gold.ac.uk; Mon, 13 Feb 95 15:25:04 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:25:04 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Boanas To: Samson Luk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC Pine signature/addressbook X-Sender: guy@scorpio.gold.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <3hjqab$nq0@ibridge.iohk.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 12 Feb 1995, Samson Luk wrote: > How can I setup the following in PINERC to get PC Pine use the > .addressbook and .signature file on the UNIX end? > > address-book={mail.iohk.com}.addressbook > signature-file={mail.iohk.com}.signature > > both of the above didn't work in my case. The information below works with Winsock Pine If you are using an NFS-type system mount your UNIX home directory as an NFS drive (e.g. M:\) and tell PC-Pine that your addressbook etc is at M:\mail\filename. For filename you will have to substitute the cookied version of the filename (i.e. with "~" or "^" characters) shown by doing a DIR command on the now mounted m:\mail directory. You cannot mount it as m:\mail\.addressbook. Guy Boanas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 07:50:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07310; Mon, 13 Feb 95 07:50:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28899; Mon, 13 Feb 95 07:44:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28893; Mon, 13 Feb 95 07:44:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re2rq-00038DC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 07:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: helen ruth etters Subject: Re: Help forwarding addresses Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 10:15:41 -0500 Message-Id: References: <9502120755.AA27388@hkusub.hku.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9502120755.AA27388@hkusub.hku.hk> Status: O X-Status: > If your department chair is not too familiar with pine, it might be best > for you to get a copy of his .addressbook and then edit it in pico to > include your list. Editing the .addressbook is not too complicated. You > just need to read in the file (^R) and make sure that the name of the > list begins on a new line is followed with a tab (do this twice) and then > list the distribution list each on a separate line preceeded by ten spaces. > > In article you wrote: > : I've created a pine alias called "majors" which contains the > : email addresses of all the students who major in our department. > : I want to give this list to the chair of our department, without his > : having to type in all the names/addresses again. How can I send this > : addressbook entry to him in such a way that he could use it without > : having to retype it? Thanks Michael, but I'm afraid this is not the answer for two reasons: I don't know how to ^R(ead) a file from one person's account to another's (if I'm logged in as me I don't have access to his; & vice versa; right?) and (2) I also have the same question about other address lists. I'm the editor of a newsletter, and want to send my mailing list to a number of other people, but thought that giving one example would be enough and so didin't mention that I also have other lists I want to forward to other people. Any other ideas? Thank you very much for your help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 09:48:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13984; Mon, 13 Feb 95 09:48:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01113; Mon, 13 Feb 95 09:43:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01107; Mon, 13 Feb 95 09:43:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re4j3-00038DC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 09:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rachel2@ibm.net Subject: pine for DOS FAQ? Date: 13 Feb 1995 17:16:34 GMT Message-Id: <3ho45i$1s99@news-s01.ny.us.ibm.net> Status: O X-Status: Where can I find FAQ for Pine for DOS? Thanks. --Peter Montague From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 09:49:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14041; Mon, 13 Feb 95 09:49:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01081; Mon, 13 Feb 95 09:42:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from condor.CC.UMontreal.CA by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01075; Mon, 13 Feb 95 09:42:30 -0800 Received: from terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA by condor.CC.UMontreal.CA with SMTP id AA01608 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 13 Feb 1995 12:40:36 -0500 Received: by terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA (5.0/5.17) id AA00655; Mon, 13 Feb 1995 12:40:55 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 12:40:54 -0500 (EST) From: SI-Johanne Duhaime To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: 132 colomns Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 161 Status: O X-Status: Bonjour Is it possible to work with 132 colomns displayed on the screen with pico? Thank you for your help. Johanne Duhaime ircm duhaimj@ircm.umontreal.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 10:49:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17070; Mon, 13 Feb 95 10:49:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02994; Mon, 13 Feb 95 10:26:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02988; Mon, 13 Feb 95 10:26:13 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17398; Mon, 13 Feb 95 10:26:10 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 10:26:07 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Vince Prichard Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Copying Global Addressbook Entries to a Personal Book In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: No, but the next version will have a TakeAddress command which works from one address book to another just like it works from a message to an address book. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Vince Prichard wrote: > Does Pine have any built-in facility to copy address information from the > system's Global Addressbook to a personal address book? Outside of Pine, > I have found that you can grep the global file for the name you want and > append the output to the personal file (.addressbook). Then Pine sees what > was added when you start it. But is there a more direct way? This > method can easily get more than you want, which then has to be deleted. > > ----------------------------------------------------- > Vince Prichard Network Services Department > University of Colorado Health Sciences Center > UCHSC, Box A060, 4200 E. 9th Avenue, Denver CO 80262 > Voice: 303-270-3768 FAX: 303-270-8699 > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 11:09:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18650; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:09:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03468; Mon, 13 Feb 95 10:45:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03456; Mon, 13 Feb 95 10:45:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re5d2-00038MC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 10:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Holstead Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 10:37:01 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3hgb88$nje@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> <3hlo8n$bhe@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> <9502131558.AA00505@pX1.stfx.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9502131558.AA00505@pX1.stfx.ca> Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, John Andrea wrote: > In comp.mail.pine you write: > >: In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem > >Yes > > > This is very interesting, i've always seen it happen on AIX and Ultrix > and assumed it was a standard unix bug. Have you ever figured out what > tcsh does differently ? Do you know if anyone has posed the question to > IBM (or DEC) ? I have not figured out why tcsh fixed the problem on OSF1/2.0 nor have I figured out why it doesn't fix the problem on AIX/3.25. I do however have it on my TODO list. I hope to get into this soon. I have talk to DEC. They say "Yeah, looks like a problem to me.". The trouble is, their response was to use tcsh. That is not my idea of a DEC fix. I fough with their support people for *6* MONTHS for a csh fix. Their reply was "thats the way csh is designed.". I gave up on DEC. > > I find it happening to kermit when people hangup the phone too. This could very well be related. ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Holstead University of Alberta Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 C A N A D A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 11:19:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19221; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:19:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03012; Mon, 13 Feb 95 10:58:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03006; Mon, 13 Feb 95 10:58:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re5vJ-00038DC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 10:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gwestlu@harp.aix.calpoly.edu (George L. Westlund) Subject: PINE 3.91 and AIX 3.2.5 Date: 13 Feb 1995 18:35:54 GMT Message-Id: <3ho8qa$6uv@isnews.calpoly.edu> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone been able to get pine to compile on AIX 3.2.5? I've gotten pico to compile, but pine generates a compiler error then dies! I'd like to be able to compile it with optimization to cut down on its memory requirements and speed it up a little! I get the following error using the IBM C compiler: cc -DA32 -O -DSYSTYPE=\"A32\" -c os.c "os.c", line 1628.22: 1506-045 (S) Undeclared identifier MAXPATH. make: 1254-004 The error code from the last command is 1. Any help would be appreciated! If anyone has tried to make it using shared libraries as well I would be interested in hearing about it. We have 18400 accounts spread across six sites and the 40-70 concurrent logins are a killing with most users checking their mail via PINE. -- George L. Westlund || Internet: gwestlu@calpoly.edu Academic Computing Services || BITNET: DI001@CALPOLY.BITNET Cal Poly || NoiseNET: (805)756-6543 San Luis Obispo, CA 93407 || FAX: (805)756-1536 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 11:54:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21053; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:54:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04882; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:34:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04876; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:33:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re6Me-00038FC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: auto-move-read-msgs via IMAP Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:06:21 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: It should work wherever your INBOX is, can you provide more details? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 13 Feb 1995 martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de wrote: > Date: 13 FEB 1995 07:04:08 -0800 > From: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: auto-move-read-msgs via IMAP > > Dear all, > > last week I asked the same question, however didn't get an answer. > So here it goes again: > > Does auto-move-read-msgs also work when connected to a remote incoming > folder via IMAP? > My experience says no. > > What's yours? > > Thanks in advance > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Martin Spohn | > Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 > Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de > Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 > Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 11:54:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21081; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:54:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04041; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:34:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04035; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:34:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re6UO-00038CC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: help Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:16:53 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Pine normally asks you if you want to include the message in a reply. Is that not happening? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Feb 1995, Nizar Awartani wrote: > Date: 6 FEB 1995 06:34:47 -0600 > From: Nizar Awartani > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: help > > In repling to some one by mail, the pine program does not include the > message. Can any one help? > Please: Reply by E-mail. > Thanks. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Dr. Nizar M. Awartani > Department Of Computer Science > An-Najah University l l > Nablus West Bank . l.. _ _ l .. > Tel. 972-9-383266 _l l__l l_l___l_ l __l > l____l ____l ____l ____l _____l > .. > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 11:55:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21150; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:55:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04900; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:34:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04892; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:34:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re6Uw-00038DC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: NEWSGROUP postings to INBOX??? Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:18:20 -0800 Message-Id: References: <1995Feb4.092721.15071@linkoping.trab.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: No, subscribing to a newsgroup only lists that group as a folder in your News-Collection, it does not cause anything else to happen... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, W F (Will) Sill wrote: > Date: Mon, 6 FEB 1995 18:44:35 -0500 > From: W F (Will) Sill > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: NEWSGROUP postings to INBOX??? > > > When I SUBSCRIBE to a NEWSGROUP in PINE, should I not expect to see > posting to that group in my PINE INBOX? > > > Will@epix.net - the unofficial Mayor of Sill Hill > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 12:10:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22042; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:10:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04415; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:47:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04409; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:47:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re6Xa-00038CC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE Editor needs a SHELL facility Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:20:46 -0800 Message-Id: References: <199502091643.LAA23866@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Control-Z should work anywhere in Pine, including the composer... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 9 Feb 1995, Douglas H. Quebbeman wrote: > Date: Thu, 9 FEB 1995 18:14:29 GMT > From: Douglas H. Quebbeman > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: PINE Editor needs a SHELL facility > > > I'd like to thank everyone who informed me of the control-Z command, > which, when used with the -z command line switch, allow me to shell > out from PINE to the UNIX shell. It would be nice if this would work > without having to invoke the POSTPONE command (Control-O) of which > I was already aware, but I suppose I'll just have to get used to it, > or jump back into EMACS (which I haven't used since 1982). > > -- > -Douglas H. Quebbeman (dougq@iglou.com) > "The large print giveth, and the small print taketh away." -Tom Waits > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 12:12:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22223; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:12:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05233; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:47:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05227; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:47:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re6WG-00038OC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Subdirectories With Pine? Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:11:48 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Pine currently supports folder-collections, but that is all at this time. We are planning to implement hierarchical collections in the future though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > Date: Mon, 6 FEB 1995 09:12:18 -0500 (EST) > From: Mike Rollins > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Subdirectories With Pine? > > > Is there a way to configure Pine so that > I am able to use subdirectories within either my > mail or "Subscribed-Groups" directories? What I > would like to do, is to configure my newsgroups > directory so that I can have all of the groups > which are related to a given topic in a separate > subdirectory. Also, I would like to set up my > mail directory so that I have one or two separate > subdirectories for people with whom I regularly > exchange E-Mail, so that I can keep each of them > as a separate folder without cluttering up my > primary mail directory with folders. Also, I am > learning that it may be useful to have a separate > "Lists" folder for storing mail from the various > mailing lists that I am on. Is anything like > this possible? > > Mike Rollins > mr@world.std.com > mjr@conan.ids.net > Speaking only for myself. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 12:13:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22269; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:13:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04407; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:47:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04401; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:47:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re6Vw-00038MC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Replying a note from an 'Apparently from' address Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:10:10 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Pine does not recognize the Apparently-From header, you will have to manually enter the address..... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 5 Feb 1995, Chermesh Ran wrote: > Date: Sun, 5 FEB 1995 12:56:04 GMT > From: Chermesh Ran > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Replying a note from an 'Apparently from' address > > > Hi, > i;ve received a note with the following header: > > Received: by moon.earthlink.net (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.2) > id ; Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:41 PST > Message-Id: > Date: Fri, 3 Feb 95 17:41 PST > Apparently-From: oconnell@filaw.com > To: chermesh > Subject: Assistance > X-Mailer: AIR Mail 3.X (SPRY, Inc.) > > > As you can see, the address is "apparantly" from oconnell@filaw.com. > I tried to use the 'R' option on pine to answer, but this address wasn't > recognized. > Is there a way to solve this minor problem? > > Ran > > > > > -- > Ran Chermesh E - M A I L > Behavioral Sciences Dept. =========== > Ben-Gurion University Internet: CHERMESH@BGUVM.BGU.AC.IL > Beer-Sheva 84105 CHERMESH@BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL > Israel Bitnet : CHERMESH@BGUVM.BITNET > Phone: 972-7-472-057 Fax: 972-7-232-766 > > URL: gopher://gopher.bgu.ac.il:70/00/Ben/res/hum/beh/CHERMESH%2c%20RAN > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 12:17:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22433; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:17:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04613; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:55:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04607; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:55:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re6fx-00038LC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: I need MIME help!!!!!! Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:26:12 -0800 Message-Id: References: <95039.153347CLS141@psuvm.psu.edu> <3hjebr$5el@news1.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: FYI, the 'munpack' program mentioned in the original message is a MIME decoder that works much like uudecode... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 12 Feb 1995, Chris Alfeld wrote: > Date: Sun, 12 FEB 1995 02:01:47 GMT > From: Chris Alfeld > Newgroups: comp.mail.misc, comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: I need MIME help!!!!!! > > > MIME uses it's on encoding scheme. You'll need to find a MIME compliant > program (normally a mailer) to translate it. On the PC you might try > Pegasus. > > MIME is NOT the same as uuencode. > -- > -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) > Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 12:18:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22526; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:18:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05420; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:55:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05414; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:55:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re6fn-00038FC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 11:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: mailcap path to xv? Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 11:23:28 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: You specify the paths to the viewers you want in the .mailcap (or /etc/mailcap) file... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 7 Feb 1995 mdorrin@wo0414.wo.blm.gov wrote: > Date: Tue, 7 FEB 1995 12:16:12 -0500 > From: mdorrin@wo0414.wo.blm.gov > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: mailcap path to xv? > > From mdorrin@wo0414.wo.blm.govTue Feb 7 12:13:41 1995 > Date: Mon, 6 FEB 1995 11:17:14 -0500 > From: mdorrin@wo0414.wo.blm.gov > Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime > Subject: specifying viewer path in .mailcap? > > > How to tell Pine (and Mosaic) where to find external viewer xv (and > others like mpeg, etc)??? > > Do I specify the viewer's (xv)path in the .mailcap file or in an > environment variable prior to invoking Pine (or Mosaic)? > > Currently, I place xv in Pine's (AND Mosaic's) directory. I'm not > happy about the loss of hard disk space due to duplicate xv's in > different directories. > > Thanks in advance. > ======================================================= > / > \ / / > \\\' , / // > \\\//, _/ //, Mike Dorrington > \_-//' / //<, m1dorrin@attmail.com > \ /// / >> \\\`__/_ 202 452 5002 (fax) > /,)-~>> _\` \\\ 202 452 5027 (voice) > (/ \\ //\\ > // // \\\ > (( (( > ======================================================= > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 12:44:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23921; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:44:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05958; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:19:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05950; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:19:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re7Bb-00038DC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Julie A. Brown" Subject: WWW Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 14:57:54 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: How do I get into the Webb. I've tried to get in but it keeps rejecting me. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 12:55:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24518; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:55:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05624; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:40:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05618; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:40:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re7NL-00038FC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Steven R. Daviss" Subject: Procomm/Win script for PINE 3.91 frontend? Date: Wed, 8 Feb 1995 22:10:50 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Greetings, I'm using a Windows PC to dial-up a Unix machine, which uses PINE 3.91 to manage mail and newsgroups. Comm software is Procomm Plus for Windows (v1.1, I think). I've used Procomm+/Win's ASPECT scripting language, and the Meta-keys and programmable keyboard features to make Pine easier to use (say, for occassional users). The question: Has anyone written a script, like with navigation buttons and such, in Procomm+/Win that would present a point&click interface to Pine? Thanks. Steve Daviss sdaviss@umabnet.ab.umd.edu Baltimore From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 12:59:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24899; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:59:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06583; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:40:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06577; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:40:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re7Uz-00038CC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 12:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: L_Man Subject: Re: Blinking letters? Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 12:10:52 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3hedfb$8bh@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hedfb$8bh@portal.gmu.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 10 Feb 1995, Yong-Rim Rhee wrote: > I just received an email from a friend asking me how I could type in bliking > letter on the subject line. I sure as hell don't know and didn't even know it > was possible. I've seen some people post an article with weird characters > (those extended-ascii) and I would like to know how I can do this. Any help > would be appreciated. Please email > > Yongrim yes it is quite possible indeed it has been done :-) btw if you are a dos user you need ansi.sys installed in your config.sys like so: device=c:\dos\ansi.sys I'm not sure about other OS's however i know escape sequences do some funky things with windows. my login is in color and windows "jumps" back from my prompt when i log in so i have take the mouse and scroll down back to my prompt which returns to the default crl%. if anyone wants to see an example i'll be more and happy to mail you one. Then you can save it to file and edit it down and insert it in any documents you wish :-) lmbutler@crl.com | "I do not know what expert judges would think about the intrinsic excellence or perfection of the object in question, but I do know that it pleases me to behold or contemplate.It may or may not be admirable in the judgment of experts, but I enjoy it nevertheless"-M.J.Adler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 13:38:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27855; Mon, 13 Feb 95 13:38:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07113; Mon, 13 Feb 95 13:29:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07107; Mon, 13 Feb 95 13:29:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re8J2-00038LC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 13:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdeem@crash.cts.com (Mike Deem) Subject: HEADER? Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 06:32:40 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: How do I find out the full header to my mail. thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 14:28:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00604; Mon, 13 Feb 95 14:28:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09725; Mon, 13 Feb 95 14:20:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09718; Mon, 13 Feb 95 14:20:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0re957-00038DC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 14:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hfc6ashwood@unl.ac.uk (David Ashwood) Subject: Pine for PC Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 13:17:26 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Is pine available for the PC (windows pref). If so what is the cost... Thanks for any pointer.. David Ashwood. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 15:46:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05705; Mon, 13 Feb 95 15:46:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12127; Mon, 13 Feb 95 15:31:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from omak.amath.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12121; Mon, 13 Feb 95 15:31:08 -0800 Received: by omak.amath.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.21 ) id AA15568; Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:31:07 -0800 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:31:05 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Stern To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: A better icon for Pine under X Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1654922522-792718265=:15124" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1654922522-792718265=:15124 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Okay, I answered my own question. I now know how to start Pine in an xterm and set what its icon should look like: I start Pine using xterm -n Pine -name Pine -title "Pine" -e /usr/local/bin/pine & ^^^^^^^^^^ this is what tells the window manager what the application is called In my .Xdefaults I have ! ! This tells the window manager the name of the bitmap to use for the icon ! -- substitute with the correct window manager name. Mwm*Pine*iconImage: /user2/stern/.xbm/pine.xbm ! ! Pine doesn't inherit any of the specific XTerm stuff, so it needs to be ! defined. ! Pine*VT100.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-*-*-c-*-*-1 Pine*VT100.Geometry: 80x50+10+10 Pine*VT100.saveLines: 0 Pine*jumpScroll: off Pine*scrollBar: off #ifdef COLOR Pine*foreground: White Pine*background: DarkSlateGrey Pine*cursorColor: Red Pine*pointerColor: Blue #endif The bitmap I use is attached. It is a slightly shrunken version of the one on the Pine WWW site. The X resources for window managers are read only when the wm starts, so they won't take effect until you restart. -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ --0-1654922522-792718265=:15124 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="pine.xbm" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: I2RlZmluZSBwaW5lX3dpZHRoIDc4DQojZGVmaW5lIHBpbmVfaGVpZ2h0IDU4 DQojZGVmaW5lIHBpbmVfeF9ob3QgLTENCiNkZWZpbmUgcGluZV95X2hvdCAt MQ0Kc3RhdGljIGNoYXIgcGluZV9iaXRzW10gPSB7DQogMHgwMCwweDAwLDB4 MDAsMHgwMCwweDgwLDB4MDEsMHgwMCwweDAwLDB4MDAsMHgwMCwweDAwLDB4 MDAsMHgwMCwweDAwLDB4ODAsDQogMHgwMSwweDAwLDB4MDAsMHgwMCwweDAw LDB4MDAsMHgwMCwweDAwLDB4MDAsMHg4MCwweDA3LDB4MDAsMHgwMCwweDAw 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From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 16:10:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06950; Mon, 13 Feb 95 16:10:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11591; Mon, 13 Feb 95 15:51:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11585; Mon, 13 Feb 95 15:51:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reAP9-00038DC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 15:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: karlsson@csulb.edu (Jonas Karlsson) Subject: Different character set? Date: 13 Feb 1995 23:38:05 GMT Message-Id: <3hoqgt$mg5@garuda.csulb.edu> Status: O X-Status: How can you make Pine "understand" different character sets? I want my terminal to display some odd characters from the swedish alphabet (ISO 8859-1). ________________________________________________________________________ Jonas Karlsson 125 Ximeno Ave. #8, Long Beach, 908 03 CA, USA (310) 433-7164 karlsson@csulb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 16:22:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08581; Mon, 13 Feb 95 16:22:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14024; Mon, 13 Feb 95 16:14:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14018; Mon, 13 Feb 95 16:14:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reAro-00038DC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 16:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jbryans@csulb.edu (Jack Bryans) Subject: where's doc/pine-ports Date: 14 Feb 1995 00:07:44 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Both pine documentation and 'build help' refer us to doc/pine-ports, yet 'ls doc' only shows: brochure.txt mailcap.unx pine.1 tech-notes.ps imap.vs.pop pico.1 tech-notes.me tech-notes.txt Where is pine-ports? Jack From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 16:52:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10026; Mon, 13 Feb 95 16:52:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13582; Mon, 13 Feb 95 16:44:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13576; Mon, 13 Feb 95 16:44:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reBL5-00038MC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 16:41 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: marks@colossus.holonet.net (postmaster@marks.org) Subject: Re: Where do I get it? Date: 14 Feb 1995 00:36:49 GMT Message-Id: <3hotv2$kqo@colossus.holonet.net> References: <3hgdrq$oa1@empire.texas.net> Status: O X-Status: Steve Larson (stevelar@texas.net) wrote: : Where can I get a copy of Pine 3.91 for Windows? Try ftping to ftp.cac.washington.edu It's listed as pine.tar.Z in the "mail" file and it's big! -Dale Marks dale@marks.org From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 17:36:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13225; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:36:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16738; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:29:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16732; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:29:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reC2I-00038FC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Problems with my Pine 3.91 outside of US Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 00:56:19 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I built a set of binaries for Pine 3.91 on SCO Unix 3.2.4, called pine3.91.sco.bins.tar.gz, and put them on odi.cwc.whecn.edu, and alongside Bill Campbell's source/binaries package on ftp.celestial.com. I have discovered that there is a problem for non-US people using my binaries. I compiled it using US-specific crypt libraries. Apparently, non-US versions of SCO will core-dump if you run this binary. At least, some do. I recently fixed a problem someone was having in Mexico by rebuilding Pine using SCO's international crypt supplement. If you are outside of the US and have a problem with my Pine where it says something like "Pine caught a signal... closing down" whenever you try to start it up, let me know and I can make the international version I built available for you. Gunther Anderson Unix System Administrator Education Development Center From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 17:56:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13956; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:56:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15852; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:49:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15846; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:49:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reCMH-00038MC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robin Callender Subject: Re: WWW on Pine? Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 16:30:53 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hcbbk$dgn@gap.cco.caltech.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 9 Feb 1995, David Soergel wrote: > Mary Susan Freeman wrote: > > > Can you get www on pine? > > No. In a text-based environment, use Lynx. In a graphical > environment, use Netscape if you can, otherwise Mosaic. There are > some other web browsers available too... Cello for example. > > The WWW is interactive; you move around in it in real time. Pine > does only email and news. > > -David > > Sorry David, but I think you are missing a important request here. I would refine the question to "why is there no text/URL mime type". If this type was "blessed" then the mailcap file could be set to envoke any Web "viewer" the user's system could support. The two "killer apps" in the internet are WWW browers and e-mail. Currently many of the Web browsers provide some type of e-mail interface. It sure would be nice to be able to include an attachment which when viewed would access info via a URL. This would provide the ultimate MIME .signature facility. Of course this is possible now in a non-standard way, but it would move much more quickly towards becoming a standard if PINE backed it. I believe the PINE dev. team are leaders in providing MIME-based mail systems, and are in a good position to "show the possibilites" of MIME e-mail. I feel that this type of integration between the WWW world and MIME e-mail will soon happen...the question is how well will this integration be thought out and who's bennefit will it serve. Let's not let MS, or the likes, again set defacto "standards". Keep up the good work. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin Callender robinc@halcyon.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 18:06:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14278; Mon, 13 Feb 95 18:06:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17329; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:59:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17323; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:59:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reCU7-00038FC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@ceslab03.math.utah.edu (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: How do I setup pine to read newsgroups Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 00:58:43 GMT Message-Id: <1995Feb14.005843.10825@math.utah.edu> References: <3hkh4i$smc@kiwi.futuris.net> <3hnoj1$efk@kiwi.futuris.net> Status: O X-Status: : Being that I am completely new to this, how exactly do I setup pine to do : it? I am using verion 3.91 At the main menu type 'S' for setup and then 'C' for config. Go down to the entry 'nntp-server' and use the 'A' (add) command to add your newserver to this entry. -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 18:10:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14471; Mon, 13 Feb 95 18:10:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17455; Mon, 13 Feb 95 18:03:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17448; Mon, 13 Feb 95 18:03:54 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01688; Mon, 13 Feb 95 18:03:51 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 18:03:49 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "postmaster@marks.org" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Where do I get it? In-Reply-To: <3hotv2$kqo@colossus.holonet.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: The pine.tar.Z file contains the entire source distribution. The Windows version of PC-Pine is in the file: /pine/pcpine/pcpine_w.zip on ftp.cac.washington.edu -teg On 14 Feb 1995, postmaster@marks.org wrote: > Steve Larson (stevelar@texas.net) wrote: > : Where can I get a copy of Pine 3.91 for Windows? > > Try ftping to ftp.cac.washington.edu It's listed as pine.tar.Z in the > "mail" file and it's big! > > -Dale Marks dale@marks.org > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 18:51:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15494; Mon, 13 Feb 95 18:51:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16795; Mon, 13 Feb 95 18:41:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16778; Mon, 13 Feb 95 18:41:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reD7J-00038CC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 18:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@ceslab03.math.utah.edu (Chris Alfeld) Subject: Re: 132 colomns Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 01:00:30 GMT Message-Id: <1995Feb14.010030.10932@math.utah.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: : Is it possible to work with 132 colomns displayed on the screen with Sure, with GNU stty the command to run before pico is: stty cols 132 On some systems setenv COLS 132 might help. I believe the command on standard stty is: stty co# 132 -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 20:40:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18577; Mon, 13 Feb 95 20:40:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20016; Mon, 13 Feb 95 20:36:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20010; Mon, 13 Feb 95 20:36:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reEoP-00038CC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 20:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dm125@cus.cam.ac.uk (Damion Milne) Subject: several suggestions Date: 14 Feb 1995 02:56:06 GMT Message-Id: <3hp646$a83@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: There follow a few suggestions to improve how usable Pine is. The following apply to Pine 3.91. I was running Pine on unix (Solaris 2.3), but the suggestions may well apply to other flavours of unix Pine. ^J Attach I switched on the option use-current-dir but found that attach takes you to your home directory, instead of to the current one. Empty folders Would it be too difficult to arrange things so that when you open an empty folder, pine returns immediately with a message to that effect, instead of actually opening the folder, which is slower (maybe due to the current implementation of IMAPD ?). Directory browser I would love to be able to go straight into directories when I select them, instead of having to confirm by pressing yes. Similarly for selecting files. Could there be an option for this, maybe called something like browse-without-confirm. This would be similar to the select-without-confirm option. Folder name completion in address book For consistency I would like to be able to press tab, and have a folder name completed while I am editing the Fcc of an address book entry. Apart from minor cases, such as the ones above, I am very happy with Pine. -- Damion Milne Cambridge, England From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 22:01:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20616; Mon, 13 Feb 95 22:01:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19803; Mon, 13 Feb 95 21:56:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19796; Mon, 13 Feb 95 21:56:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reG8O-00038CC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 21:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikep@mfa.com (Michael A. Passineau) Subject: MAILCAP, Content-type Date: 14 Feb 1995 04:57:17 GMT Message-Id: <3hpd7d$3c6@homer.alpha.net> Status: O X-Status: Hello! We are working with PC Pine and the HPUX port of Pine, both v3.91 and have some questions concerning how the mailcap file is constructed. If we attach a MS Word document to a Pine message the Content-type header field lists it as Multipart/Mixed with a boundary= parameter. When we go to view the document/attachment in the PC Pine version with an entry in our mailcap file as follows: Multipart/Mixed;c:\word\winword %s The MS Word application launches but we receive an error stating the file c:\temp\imxxxxxx.doc can not be found/open? The file never gets created in \TEMP either. We are wondering about a couple of things. First is their a Content type for specific vendors applications? If so, where can I obtain a list of registered content type values that I can use in my mailcap file? I understand the IANA keeps these. Second, what is the proper syntax for the mailcap file to have it launch say MS Word for Windows, Lotus for Windows, etc. based on the attachment content-type? I have noticed that our TCP/IP stack vendor (FTP Software) includes a MAPI compliant mailer that puts a content-type value in when you use it to mail attachments. It gave the above MS Word document a content-type of: application/MSWORD. I read there a extension tokens that can be referenced in the mailcap. Are these regeistered, and can I obtain a list of registered extensions (ie .DOC, .WK4, etc.)? Any help on the subject of constructing the mailcap file, and valid supported content-types, extension tokens, etc. would be greatly appreciated! Best regards. . . Mike From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 22:10:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20810; Mon, 13 Feb 95 22:10:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21390; Mon, 13 Feb 95 22:04:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21384; Mon, 13 Feb 95 22:04:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reGIo-00038CC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 21:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: "Error Posting Message...." Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 21:25:36 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: This message comes from your NNTP server, not from Pine. Although it seems to be saying that the disk is full on that system, my experience suggests that the disk is out of inodes. In other words, there are too many files. It's possible for 50% of the disk to be free and still get this message. Nag the sysadmin of the NNTP server to rebuild that disk with more inodes. If you *are* the sysadmin: 1) rebuild that disk with more inodes. You need a lot more inodes on a news spool disk than on an ordinary filesystem. 2) As an interim measure to get the news flowing again, blow away a few thousand files on the server. Good places to look for garbage are some of the more active rec.* newsgroups, and especially the alt.* and *.pictures newsgroups (groups with names such as alt.sex.dirty.pictures are good targets). On Sun, 12 Feb 1995, Hank Burchard wrote: > When I tried posting a reply to a newsgroup, using precisely the > same procedures as usual, I got the message: > > ERROR POSTING MESSAGE 441 400 NO SPACE LEFT ON DEVICE WRITING > ARTICLE FILE. > > Say what? > > I got the same result when trying to post this message; I postponed > both and later was able to send the first. If you see this, it obviously > finally got out also. What's happening? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 13 22:48:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21600; Mon, 13 Feb 95 22:48:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20531; Mon, 13 Feb 95 22:45:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20525; Mon, 13 Feb 95 22:45:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reGrh-00038CC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 22:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikee@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu (Michael J. Ellis) Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes Date: 14 Feb 1995 01:26:36 -0500 Message-Id: <3hpies$bb0@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu> References: <3hgb88$nje@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> <3hlo8n$bhe@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> <9502131558.AA00505@pX1.stfx.ca> Status: O X-Status: Steve Holstead wrote: >On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, John Andrea wrote: > >> In comp.mail.pine you write: >> >: In contrast, are you saying that switching to tcsh *solved* the problem >> >Yes >> >> >> This is very interesting, i've always seen it happen on AIX and Ultrix >> and assumed it was a standard unix bug. Have you ever figured out what >> tcsh does differently ? Do you know if anyone has posed the question to >> IBM (or DEC) ? Hey, you IBM and DEC people think you got all the fun :-) I'm running a Sun SparcIIk with Solaris 2.4..... you got it, the same problem. (with ksh) I'm not sure what can be done about it, but if I come up with anything I'll post it here. (my current solution is a script that kills certain things if that process is running without a user connected. (ie not in the "who" list). I don't like this though, since with 200+ people online, this script does more harm than good... Enjoy, MikeE -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael John J. Ellis | Systems Programmer | ZIMA ZUCKS! SCT | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 01:21:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25955; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:21:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24201; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:15:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24194; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:15:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reJCS-00038DC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: moan@biobase.dk (Morten Andersen) Subject: What can I delete from the pine3.91 directory? Date: 13 Feb 1995 14:34:17 GMT Message-Id: <3hnql9$hhf@biovax.biobase.dk> Status: O X-Status: After installation of Pine 3.91 on an SGI Indy using the makefile.sgi I want to remove everything not necessary to pine and pico in order to save disc space. Can anyone give a list of which files I must keep (or which I can delete)? Thanks, Morten Andersen, University of Copenhagen, Denmark From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 01:31:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26489; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:31:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24393; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:26:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24387; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:26:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reJMd-00038DC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Joseph J. Strout" Subject: changing key bindings Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 09:38:27 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to change the key bindings in Pine/Pico? I realize that they were chosen to be comfy for Emacs users, but Emacs users could just use Emacs (alternate editor). I'd like to make it comfy for Mac/Windows users. All Mac programs use ^X=Cut, ^C=Copy, ^V=Paste, and as far as I can tell, many Windows programs have also copied this standard. Can this be done in Pico? Many thanks from a new but genuine Pine convert... ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Department of Neuroscience, UCSD | | jstrout@ucsd.edu http://sdcc3.ucsd.edu/~jstrout/ | `------------------------------------------------------------------' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 01:34:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26582; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:34:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22946; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:26:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22940; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:26:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reJMb-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 01:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Joseph J. Strout" Subject: postprocessing composed messages [how?] Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 09:32:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'd like to intercept an outgoing file just before Pine throws it out the door to do a little postprocessing -- namely, I want to digitally sign it, and also encrypt it if the recipient address is one that I have a public key for. I can do all this in a script if I can just catch that file before it goes. Alternatively, I could use the "alternate-editor-cmd" to wrap Pico in an encrypting script (I'm using such a setup experimentally right now). But this means a few extra keystrokes, and only works for signing (because the script has no way of knowing who the recipient might be). Any ideas? Thanks... ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Department of Neuroscience, UCSD | | jstrout@ucsd.edu http://sdcc3.ucsd.edu/~jstrout/ | `------------------------------------------------------------------' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 03:36:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29303; Tue, 14 Feb 95 03:36:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24446; Tue, 14 Feb 95 03:29:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24440; Tue, 14 Feb 95 03:29:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reLPt-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 03:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: mailcap path to xv? Date: 14 Feb 1995 02:10:07 -0600 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: In article , you write: |> Do I specify the viewer's (xv)path in the .mailcap file or in an |> environment variable prior to invoking Pine (or Mosaic)? |> |> Currently, I place xv in Pine's (AND Mosaic's) directory. I'm not |> happy about the loss of hard disk space due to duplicate xv's in |> different directories. Why don't you soft-link it instead (see man ln) ? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 04:50:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01911; Tue, 14 Feb 95 04:50:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27227; Tue, 14 Feb 95 04:45:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27221; Tue, 14 Feb 95 04:45:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reMaz-00038DC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 04:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kevin@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Kevin Flanagan) Subject: POP client??? Date: 14 Feb 1995 12:36:12 GMT Message-Id: <3hq84f$esd@nic.iii.net> Status: O X-Status: I hear that PINE can be configured to be a POP client, does anyone here have a pointer to the document that I need to set this up? Thanks, Kevin M. Flanagan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 05:45:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03515; Tue, 14 Feb 95 05:45:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26445; Tue, 14 Feb 95 05:32:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26439; Tue, 14 Feb 95 05:32:19 -0800 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM ([3.12.38.33]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id IAA16185 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 1995 08:32:14 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA28818; Tue, 14 Feb 95 08:30:39 EST Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 08:30:39 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: postprocessing composed messages [how?] In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 10 Feb 1995, Joseph J. Strout wrote: > I'd like to intercept an outgoing file just before Pine throws it out the > door to do a little postprocessing -- namely, I want to digitally sign it, and > also encrypt it if the recipient address is one that I have a public key for. > I can do all this in a script if I can just catch that file before it goes. > I believe what you are looking for can be accomplished by modifying the sendmail.cf file. I have *no* idea how to do it, but I am pretty sure that is where you need to intercept it. I would start by defining an array of designated addressees in a reference file, which is read when the sendmail daemon is started. Messages to those recipients would be preprocessed by your script and sent on their way as normal. Maybe someone out there will know if this would work and, more importantly, how to do it. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 06:21:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04241; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:21:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27000; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:15:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26994; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:15:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reNxC-00038HC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lgfausak@august.com (Greg Fausak) Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes Date: 14 Feb 1995 14:04:02 GMT Message-Id: <3hqd8i$ian@news.onramp.net> References: <3hgb88$nje@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Status: O X-Status: I've been experiencing run-away imap processes on the hp. Anybody else see this problem? The build and installation were clean. ---greg -- Greg Fausak, Chandelle Consulting, Inc. V214-393-7976 lgfausak@august.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 06:28:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04400; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:28:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28584; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:20:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28578; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:20:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reO3N-00038DC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE () Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: 14 Feb 1995 13:48:11 GMT Message-Id: <3hqcar$5qc@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> References: <3hq84f$esd@nic.iii.net> Status: O X-Status: Kevin Flanagan (kevin@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE) wrote: : I hear that PINE can be configured to be a POP client, does anyone here have : a pointer to the document that I need to set this up? I've done it by inserting/changing one line in my .pinerc file: incoming-folders=POPMail {mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu/pop3} however, i've had some serious problems when using pine as a popmail client over a short time period (one week). I've one user who always get's the following message right after connecting to the popserver (this print's after it lists some of the headers): Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". I'm leaning towards a pine bug because eudora under windows has no problem fetching the articles (nor does Windows 95 mail client have any problem with them)... Since it's an undocumented (and probably unsupported feature) I will report this bug (but, I don't expect an answer).... -chris peck binghamton university From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 06:37:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04588; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:37:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27048; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:20:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27042; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:20:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reO3X-00038HC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 06:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: Pine and PGP and Decoding Message-Id: Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 07:53:38 -0600 References: <3hlo8g$a1e@cs1.bradley.edu> In-Reply-To: <3hlo8g$a1e@cs1.bradley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 12 Feb 1995, Tony Bailey wrote: Date: 12 FEB 1995 13:41:04 -0600 From: Tony Bailey Newgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Pine and PGP and Decoding I have been using the mkpgp program for some time to integrate PGP and Pine to encode messages. The problem is, I haven't yet figured out a good way to decode the mesage without using multiple files and ^Zing out. Is there a good way/script to decode a PGP encoded message I receive? Tony Bailey -- Set the "include-text-in-reply" option in Pine. "Reply to" or "forward" the message so you can run the alternate editor. When the alt-editor runs, mkpgp will detect the message and decode and/or check the signature. Keys received by e-mail are added to your keyring the same way. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL0BhceBu0383Om6dAQEztgQA6MfmWF8y+59mzRdfgIAwG68PaMQ/yGN+ yRDCQGlHB/lixHHAFL7O+o8B+E9DtAGgDHMgDv2AqpeQCQgfQ5+pmCWw3j/6TLAs wNtRCpR4BHaNlybEnVW/lrekTXrgT1thyBgHP6g8bMnKjSHOyu1wPsEGQXqqS/kQ J62/A5GzEuI= =ZC4j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 07:16:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05556; Tue, 14 Feb 95 07:16:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29244; Tue, 14 Feb 95 07:05:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29236; Tue, 14 Feb 95 07:05:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reOlq-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 07:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ben T. Feese" Subject: Re: HELP:Deleting all newsgroups at one time Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 09:55:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Why not just edit your .newsrc file to contain just the newsgroups you want, in the order you want them? BTF ============== On 10 Feb 1995, Christopher Noble wrote: > Unfortunately, my system has all the news groups that I can get in the news collection. How can I clean it out so it only has the say 10 groups I want. It really slows down my system and if makes it very difficult to post messages thru pine since it must select the group and show all 4 million messages before I can post. Any suggestions. > > Noble > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 07:49:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06425; Tue, 14 Feb 95 07:49:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28288; Tue, 14 Feb 95 07:41:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28282; Tue, 14 Feb 95 07:41:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rePJS-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 07:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca (Gildas PERROT) Subject: From without hostname ? Date: 14 Feb 1995 14:20:32 GMT Message-Id: <3hqe7g$7kr@charles.cdec.polymtl.ca> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I have Pine 3.91 installed on IRIX 5.3 (SGI). I would like the >From header stripped from the hostname, ie, to have it like this : user@domainname. I put in the pine.conf, the user-domain=grbb.polymtl.ca but I still have my From: perrot@.grbb.polymtl.ca. I tried also use-only-domain-name=yes (with user-domain unset) with no more success. Any idea about my problem ? Gildas. -- # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada ------ \<, # Tel: (514) 340-4184 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (*)/ (*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 08:43:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08438; Tue, 14 Feb 95 08:43:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01197; Tue, 14 Feb 95 08:35:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01191; Tue, 14 Feb 95 08:35:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reQAk-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 08:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ben T. Feese" Subject: Marking articles read/unread in newsgroups in pine Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 11:21:08 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can anyone tell me how to get pine to bring in all new articles in a newsgroup with the "N" symbol next to them, just as unread email messages are presented? I would like to have the "N" flag then to be removed as I read the articles, and for the read/not_read status flags to be preserved from one session to the next (much as in other newsreaders, such as tin). I can select all articles with ";" "A" , then "a"pply "*" "N" manually. pine *says* it is marking all the articles as unread....but it lies! It does no such thing. Am I doing something wrong, or am I just asking too much of pine in its current stage of development as a newsreader? Ben ============================================================================= Ben T. Feese Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 http://www.centre.edu ============================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 09:49:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12837; Tue, 14 Feb 95 09:49:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01334; Tue, 14 Feb 95 09:42:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01328; Tue, 14 Feb 95 09:42:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reR9g-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 09:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lkadin@shadow.net (lkadin) Subject: Re: COMPILING PINE ON SCO UNIX Date: 14 Feb 1995 17:20:04 GMT Message-Id: <3hqoo4$24q@anshar.shadow.net> References: <3hgo56$gue@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> Status: O X-Status: I have been trying but with no luck to compile Pine on SCO. Seems I'm missing arpa/inet.h and netc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 10:28:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14699; Tue, 14 Feb 95 10:28:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04074; Tue, 14 Feb 95 10:21:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04058; Tue, 14 Feb 95 10:21:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reRqN-00038HC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 10:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Selcuk Ozturk Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 13:12:15 EST Message-Id: <11658@ftp.econ.pitt.edu> References: <3hqcar$5qc@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> In-Reply-To: your message of Tue Feb 14 13:48:11 1995 Status: O X-Status: # I've done it by inserting/changing one line in my .pinerc file: # incoming-folders=POPMail {mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu/pop3} # # however, i've had some serious problems when using pine as a popmail client # over a short time period (one week). I've one user who always get's the # following message right after connecting to the popserver (this print's after # it lists some of the headers): # Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". # I see the same problem. Especially, if there are a lot mail to be fetched. Selcuk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 10:34:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14982; Tue, 14 Feb 95 10:34:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02467; Tue, 14 Feb 95 10:27:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02461; Tue, 14 Feb 95 10:27:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reRuN-00038DC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 10:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Configure default savemail Date: Fri, 10 Feb 1995 15:23:05 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3gs5pe$ric@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3gs5pe$ric@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 3 Feb 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Comes here Mr. Barry Landy with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in > this article on Thu, 2 Feb 1995 15:53:10 +0000: > > + A user of mine (the same one!) wants to be able to configure the default > + savemail (ie the one you get if you have the saved-msg-name-rule set to > + default-folder). I agree that this would be useful. > > Either I'm missing the point or something...isin't there a default-folder > already set if you choose that option, the folder being correctly named > saved-messages ? Yes, you are missing the point. Perhaps I explained it badly. What I want to be able to do, via setup, is to say default-save-folder=my.favorite.save so that when I select saved-msg-name-rule=default-folder it goes there and not to savemail. ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 11:01:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16525; Tue, 14 Feb 95 11:01:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03220; Tue, 14 Feb 95 10:51:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post4.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03208; Tue, 14 Feb 95 10:51:07 -0800 Received: from shah.inre.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.3-10 #7723) id <01HN1EEXIC0G8ZF57I@asu.edu>; Tue, 14 Feb 1995 11:50:52 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 11:50:33 -0700 (MST) From: Shah Subject: Re: Trouble setting standard-printer To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: X-Mailer: ECSMail for Windows v3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Priority: HIGH Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 14 Feb 1995 08:46:09 -0800 (PST) David L Miller wrote: > >Shah, > >That is a well known bug. I have attached the patch to pine/init.c. >Apply the changes and rebuild to make the variables work... > >Thanks for the report! Thanks, David. You're a gentleman and a scholar! And thanks to y'all for Pine. It's doing us yeoman's service! Best regards, S. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 11:35:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18620; Tue, 14 Feb 95 11:35:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05959; Tue, 14 Feb 95 11:27:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05953; Tue, 14 Feb 95 11:27:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reSrM-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 11:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christian Jonsson Subject: About dvi-file attachment Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 19:47:48 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Status: O X-Status: I'd like to make an attachment of a dvi-file (device independent...) such that when viewing it, xdvi is launched.=20 I thought that the only thing I needed was to define (in my ~/.mailcap) the following: # use this to display dvi files application/x-dvi; xdvi %s However, when I attach a dvi-file, it is OCTET-STREAM'ed, of course. When ``viewing'' it, it is decoded. Any help is *really* appreciated! ______________________________________________________________________ Christian J=F6nsson E-mail: cj@isy.liu.se Division of Data Transmission Telephone: (+46) 13 28 2653 Department of Electrical Engineering Telefax: (+46) 13 28 1339 Link=F6ping University SWEDEN WWW: http://merlin.isy.liu.se/user?cj/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jamtland, Jamtland, j=E4mt =E5 st=E4ndut... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 12:53:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22906; Tue, 14 Feb 95 12:53:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06334; Tue, 14 Feb 95 12:43:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06328; Tue, 14 Feb 95 12:43:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reTy5-00038DC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 12:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shane DeRidder Subject: 'titles' for quoting replies. Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 13:15:51 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to change the way the 'title' of a quoted reply looks like? Maybe I'm not asking this correctly. :) What I mean, is the message that appears before the area of text to which you are replying like: "On (time/date), (user's name) wrote:" I know this is configurable on most other mail packages, but I haven't seen anywhere to change it in Pine. Also, can the character that appears in the 1st column of the quoted area be changed? Say, from ">" to ":" for example. Pardon the rambling message, I'm not really sure how to explain it. hehe Shane- -- __ _ _ (_ |_ _.._ _ | \ _ |_)o _| _| _ ._ Love doesn't make the world go 'round __)| |(_|| |(/_ |_/(/_| \|(_|(_|(/_| It's what makes the ride worthwhile. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// http://www.interaccess.com/users/shaned/index.html && shaned@interaccess.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 13:59:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26155; Tue, 14 Feb 95 13:59:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09868; Tue, 14 Feb 95 13:49:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from atlantic.kutztown.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09856; Tue, 14 Feb 95 13:49:05 -0800 Received: by atlantic (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA08437; Tue, 14 Feb 1995 16:46:37 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 16:46:36 -0500 (EST) From: "Lisa M. Frye" X-Sender: frye@atlantic To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Core Dumps when put , in attachment In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: When a user hits return prior to putting a comma in the CC: field to add more addresses, it naturally puts the comma in the Attchmnt: field. When they they press RETURN, pine aborts because of a Panic it received. Is it possible to return an error message and not have pine core dump? Or can something be set in compilation or .pinerc to not have pine abort. Lisa Frye frye@kutztown.edu Network Software Specialist LMS Annex Room 105 Kutztown University phone: 610-683-4474 Kutztown, PA. 19530 fax: 610-683-4634 "Gossip: The only thing that travels faster than e-mail." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 14:23:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27539; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:23:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10561; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:16:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10555; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:16:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reVU8-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mangione@bard.edu (Frank Mangione) Subject: PC-NFS Pine--"host not found" Date: 14 Feb 1995 21:59:14 GMT Message-Id: <3hr93i$hhi@core.bard.edu> Status: O X-Status: I'm trying to set up PC-PINE with PC-NFS 5.1a (I've also tried with version 5.0 and some patches). The 5.1a PCs are using DNS; the 5.0 machine uses NIS (but it'll be upgraded soon). I set up the inbox-path and folder-collections configuration variables with {myhost}INBOX and {myhost}mail/[] respectively. "myhost" is running imapd on tcp port 143, and I can telnet to that port from the PCs. And the telnet leaves me with a syslog message, because I have tcp_wrappers between imapd and the naked port. But when I run PC-PINE, I invariably get "[Host not found: myhost]." And no record of a connection in syslog on "myhost." "myhost" is listed in \nfs\hosts, the NIS hosts map, and the DNS. I've got over 500K free memory. I've tried it with and without RTM loaded (but free memory drops dramatically with RTM). Back in October, I had it working! But I can't figure out what's changed now that I've picked it up again. Anyone have a solution? Frank Mangione (mangione@bard.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 14:49:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28969; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:49:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09288; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:42:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09282; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:42:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reVpy-00038DC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gildas PERROT Subject: Pine hangs up on NFS IRIX mailbox Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 17:10:09 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I have problems to read e-mail on NFS mailbox directory with Pine 3.91 under IRIX 5.3. I got a patch from SGI to solve problems with NFS and mail lock file but this one just solves the problem for 'Mail' reader, not for Pine. When pine tries to read mail in an NFS mailbox, it hangs up. I didn't have this problem under IRIX 4.0.5. However, I recompiled Pine under 5.3 without more success. I know that I can use IMAP from Pine but I would prefer NFS for several reasons. Does anyone solve this problem ? Thanks in advance for help. Gildas. # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada ------ \<, # Tel: (514) 340-4184 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (*)/ (*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 14:50:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28990; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:50:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11180; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:42:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11174; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:42:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reVqB-00038FC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 14:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: selzler@cyberspace.com (Jamie M Selzler) Subject: Help with saving messages Date: 14 Feb 1995 14:20:11 -0800 Message-Id: <3hraar$2l6@case.cyberspace.com> Status: O X-Status: Hi! I would like to save my messages (this I can do) and download them (I can also do this) but when I go to look at them afterwards, it is only one line, that line being what my Internet provider is, does anybody know how I could solve this? Thanks! Jamie M. Selzler selzler@cyberspace.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 15:25:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00949; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:25:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12050; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:17:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12044; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:17:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reWOn-00038DC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: What can I delete from the pine3.91 directory? Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 14:38:45 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3hnql9$hhf@biovax.biobase.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hnql9$hhf@biovax.biobase.dk> Status: O X-Status: Once you have compiled Pine and installed the executables, you don't need anything from the source distribution. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 13 Feb 1995, Morten Andersen wrote: > Date: 13 FEB 1995 14:34:17 GMT > From: Morten Andersen > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: What can I delete from the pine3.91 directory? > > After installation of Pine 3.91 on an SGI Indy using the makefile.sgi I want > to remove everything not necessary to pine and pico in order to save disc > space. Can anyone give a list of which files I must keep (or which I can > delete)? > > Thanks, > > Morten Andersen, > University of Copenhagen, > Denmark > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 15:25:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00957; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:25:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10064; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:17:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10058; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:17:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reWPr-00038FC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: devere@spruce.citicorp.com (Al DeVere) Subject: Random .sig.. HOW? Date: 10 Feb 1995 14:33:49 GMT Message-Id: <3hftgd$lhl@spruce.citicorp.com> Status: O X-Status: I saw a way to do a random sig in pine but I lost the thread. Does anyone still have it or know how to do it? -- -Al Al DeVere NREMT-P | Email to: Al.DeVere@citicorp.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- Insert std.disclaimer Through the gateway, off the Repeater, across the T1 Backbone... Nothing but NET. (stolen from someone else) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 15:25:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01055; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:25:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10056; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:17:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10050; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:17:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reWOi-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: where's doc/pine-ports Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 14:36:33 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-281062748-792801393=:15186" In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-281062748-792801393=:15186 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The pine-ports file was inadvertantly left out of the Pine 3.91 distribution. A copy of the one for the next release is attached... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 14 Feb 1995, Jack Bryans wrote: > Date: 14 FEB 1995 00:07:44 GMT > From: Jack Bryans > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: where's doc/pine-ports > > Both pine documentation and 'build help' refer us to doc/pine-ports, yet > 'ls doc' only shows: > > brochure.txt mailcap.unx pine.1 tech-notes.ps > imap.vs.pop pico.1 tech-notes.me tech-notes.txt > > Where is pine-ports? > > Jack > > --0-281062748-792801393=:15186 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=pine-ports Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: SGVyZSBpcyB0aGUgZnVsbCBsaXN0IG9mIFBpbmUgcG9ydHM6DQoNCglhMzIJ SUJNIFJTLzYwMDAgcnVubmluZyBBSVggMy4yDQoJYWl4CUlCTSBTLzM3MCBB SVgNCglhdXgJTWFjaW50b3NoIEEvVVgNCglic2QJQlNEIDQuMw0KCWJzaQlC U0RpIEJTRC8zODYNCgljdngJQ29udmV4DQoJZC1nCURhdGEgR2VuZXJhbCBE Ry9VWA0KCWR5bglTZXF1ZW50IER5bml4IChub3QgcHR4KQ0KCWdlbglHZW5l cmljIHBvcnQNCglocHAJSGV3bGV0dCBQYWNrYXJkIEhQL1VYDQoJaXNjCUlT QyBVbml4DQoJbG54CUxpbnV4DQoJbWN0CVRlbm9uIE1hY2hUZW4gKE1hYykN Cgltc2MJTVMtRE9TIChNaWNyb3NvZnQgQykNCgluZWIJTmV0QlNEDQoJbnh0 CU5lWFQgNjgwMzAncyBhbmQgNjgwNDAncyBNYWNoIDIuMA0KCW9zZglERUMg T1NGLzEgdjIuMA0KCXB0MQlTZXF1ZW50IER5bml4L3B0eCB2MS40DQoJcHR4 CVNlcXVlbnQgRHluaXgvcHR4DQoJczQwCVN1biBTdW5PUyA0LjANCglzY28J U0NPIFVuaXgNCglzZ2kJU2lsaWNvbiBHcmFwaGljcyBJcml4DQoJc29sCVN1 biBTb2xhcmlzDQoJc3VuCVN1biBTdW5PUyA0LjENCglzdjQJU3lzdGVtIFYg UmVsZWFzZSA0DQoJdWx0CURFQ3N0YXRpb24gVWx0cml4IDQuMSBvciA0LjIN Cgl2dWwJVkFYIFVsdHJpeA0KCXdpbglNUyBXaW5kb3dzIDMuMQ0KDQpUaGUg Zm9sbG93aW5nIHBvcnRzIGFyZSBpbmNvbXBsZXRlOg0KDQoJM2IxCUFUJlQg VW5peFBDIChQaWNvIG9ubHkpDQoJYXR0CT8/PyAoUGljbyBvbmx5KQ0KCW1h YwlNYWNPUyAoYy1jbGllbnQgb25seSkNCgltbnQJTWludCAoYy1jbGllbnQg b25seSkNCglweXIJUHlyYW1pZCBPU3ggKGMtY2xpZW50IG9ubHkpDQoJc3Yy CVN5c3RlbSBWIFJlbGVhc2UgMiAoYy1jbGllbnQgb25seSkNCgl0MjAJVE9Q Uy8yMCAoYy1jbGllbnQgb25seSkNCgl2bXMJT3BlblZNUyAoc2VlIGNvbnRy aWIvdm1zKQ0K --0-281062748-792801393=:15186-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 16:02:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03248; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:02:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12780; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:52:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12774; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:52:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reWxs-00038DC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 15:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jywong@abalone.ucsb.edu (Joyce Y. Wong) Subject: WHY is pine so slow sometimes? Date: 14 Feb 1995 14:55:53 -0800 Message-Id: <3hrcdp$17s@abalone.ucsb.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am using Pine on a Silicon graphics machine. Sometimes the pine is really slow in opening the INBOX and also in quitting. Does this have something to do with the memory available? Any suggestions? Thanks joyce jywong@squid.ucsb.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 16:16:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03936; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:16:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13171; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:07:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13165; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:07:16 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 15 Feb 95 08:06:54 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 08:06:54 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Selcuk Ozturk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POP client??? In-Reply-To: <11658@ftp.econ.pitt.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 14 Feb 1995, Selcuk Ozturk wrote: > # I've done it by inserting/changing one line in my .pinerc file: > # incoming-folders=POPMail {mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu/pop3} > # > # however, i've had some serious problems when using pine as a popmail client > # over a short time period (one week). I've one user who always get's the > # following message right after connecting to the popserver (this print's after > # it lists some of the headers): > # Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > # > I see the same problem. Especially, if there are a lot mail > to be fetched. I've also seen people with a size 7 foot trying to wedge it into a size 5 shoe. They were subsequently upset when they lost all feeling in their feet and complained to the shoe manufacturer about their poorly desiged shoes. Pine was designed as an IMAP client. It was done so with good reason. Why would anyone want to shoehorn pine into a POP client when the easiest and most benificial action to take would be to install the imapd? Would you attempt to force Eudora into imap mode? Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 16:17:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03963; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:17:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11422; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:07:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11416; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:07:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reXC1-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: peter@thalamus.wustl.edu (Peter Pletcher) Subject: Moving addresses from elm to pine? Date: 14 Feb 1995 17:11:49 -0600 Message-Id: <3hrdbl$3kf@thalamus.wustl.edu> Status: O X-Status: Greetings, One of our users has moved to a machine where she will use pine. Is there an easy way to move her address book from elm on the old machine to pine on the new one? Is there a FAQ with this kind of info around? Thanks, -- // Peter Pletcher peter@nadir.wustl.edu // // Basic research is what I am doing when I don't know what I am doing. // --Wernher Von Braun From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 16:47:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05024; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:47:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13868; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:37:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13862; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:37:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reXgZ-00038HC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: olin@cheme.cornell.edu (Steve Thompson) Subject: Re: PC-NFS Pine--"host not found" Date: 14 Feb 1995 23:47:56 GMT Message-Id: <3hrffc$bk3@newsstand.cit.cornell.edu> References: <3hr93i$hhi@core.bard.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3hr93i$hhi@core.bard.edu>, mangione@bard.edu (Frank Mangione) writes: >I'm trying to set up PC-PINE with PC-NFS 5.1a (I've also tried with >version 5.0 and some patches). The 5.1a PCs are using DNS; the 5.0 >machine uses NIS (but it'll be upgraded soon). > >I set up the inbox-path and folder-collections configuration variables >with {myhost}INBOX and {myhost}mail/[] respectively. "myhost" is >running imapd on tcp port 143, and I can telnet to that port from the >PCs. And the telnet leaves me with a syslog message, because I have >tcp_wrappers between imapd and the naked port. > >But when I run PC-PINE, I invariably get "[Host not found: myhost]." >And no record of a connection in syslog on "myhost." >[...] I have never been able to get this working (even using the IP address of the IMAP server instead of a host name). I have spoken to several other people who have also never been able to get it working. I have not heard from a single person who -does- have it working. If you figure it out, please post; it will be a public service. -steve --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Thompson, System Mangler Internet: thompson@cheme.cornell.edu School of Chemical Engineering Phone: (607) 255 5573 Olin Hall, Cornell University FAX: (607) 255 9166 Ithaca NY 14853 "Time is just one damn thing after another" --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 17:03:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05742; Tue, 14 Feb 95 17:03:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14203; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:52:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14196; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:52:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reXsO-00038FC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: mailcap path to xv? Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 16:38:38 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, David L Miller wrote: [In response to how to tell pine/mosaic where to look for xv and mpeg.] > > You specify the paths to the viewers you want in the .mailcap (or > /etc/mailcap) file... Does anyone have a sample .mailcap or /etc/mailcap that they can mail me so I can look at it. Our system/my account has neither. Ian Ollmann From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 17:03:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05929; Tue, 14 Feb 95 17:03:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12466; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:52:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12460; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:52:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reXsN-00038DC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 16:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Re: mailcap path to xv? Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 16:36:21 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: > > How to tell Pine (and Mosaic) where to find external viewer xv (and > > others like mpeg, etc)??? It was a while ago, but I think that simply adding in the line setenv VIEWER xv to your .cshrc is sufficient to tell mosaic to use xv as its veiwer. (Try replacing "xv" with /usr/bin/xv or whatever the path is to xv if that doesn't work. You can often find out the path to various programs by typing "which xv" or "whereis xv".) As for pine, set image-viewer=xv in your .pinerc, or do it through the Setup/Config option. I haven't figured out mpeg yet, but if anyone has a suggestion, I'd love to hear it. Ian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 20:38:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12633; Tue, 14 Feb 95 20:38:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18016; Tue, 14 Feb 95 20:31:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18010; Tue, 14 Feb 95 20:31:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rebJC-00038DC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 20:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bcraft@darwin.bio.uci.edu Subject: Pine concatenates messages Date: Sat, 4 Feb 1995 17:07:50 PST Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I am using Pine 3.91 on a system with SunOS 4.1.3. In a seemingly random fashion Pine will add a new incoming message to the last message that came in. I have found as many as 5 seperate messages (coming from different people) all strung together into one message. It doesn't seem to happen in a consistant fashion ie. sometimes all of the messages are separate and sometimes some of the messages are combined while others are separate. Does anyone know what is going on? This didn't happen until Pine was upgraded to 3.91. Brian bcraft@teri.bio.uci.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 21:58:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15017; Tue, 14 Feb 95 21:58:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17523; Tue, 14 Feb 95 21:52:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17517; Tue, 14 Feb 95 21:52:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0recWY-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 21:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian Russell Ollmann Subject: Using pine with a remote nntpserver Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 21:22:04 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm not sure if this is a bug, but two of us have now had (a little) trouble using pine with a non-local nntpserver. If, for example, you should want to read your news from the the non-local nntpserver another.computer.com, if you simply add the following stuff to your .pinerc: news-collections=News *{another.computer.com/nntp}[] nntp-server=another.computer.com then you get an error message that says another.computer.com: Connection refused, 143. If, however, you use the ip number of another.computer.com (1.2.3.4) rather than "another.computer.com", then it works: news-collections=News *{1.2.3.4/nntp}[] nntp-server=1.2.3.4 I don't really know if this is a bug in pine or the same bug in two completely different systems (scripps.edu and callnet.com) to two completely different nntpservers. Does anyone from Pine-development care to speculate? Ian P.S. I love pine more and more everyday. I just saw Z-mail and I like pine better. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 23:05:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16623; Tue, 14 Feb 95 23:05:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20099; Tue, 14 Feb 95 22:58:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20093; Tue, 14 Feb 95 22:58:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0redbt-00038CC; Tue, 14 Feb 95 22:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dhinds@allegro.stanford.edu (David Hinds) Subject: Re: Pine hangs up on NFS IRIX mailbox Date: 15 Feb 1995 06:23:14 GMT Message-Id: <3hs6ki$fo@nntp.Stanford.EDU> References: Status: O X-Status: Gildas PERROT (perrot@San-A) wrote: : I have problems to read e-mail on NFS mailbox directory with Pine 3.91 : under IRIX 5.3. I got a patch from SGI to solve problems with NFS and : mail lock file but this one just solves the problem for 'Mail' reader, : not for Pine. When pine tries to read mail in an NFS mailbox, it hangs : up. I didn't have this problem under IRIX 4.0.5. However, I recompiled : Pine under 5.3 without more success. I know that I can use IMAP from : Pine but I would prefer NFS for several reasons. Make sure that rpc.statd is running on the client machine. After upgrading several of our systems from 4.0.5 to 5.3, /usr/etc/rpc.statd was clobbered, due to an install bug. If this file is missing, either reinstall eoe1.sw.unix or copy it from another system running 5.3. -- Dave Hinds dhinds@allegro.stanford.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 14 23:33:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17169; Tue, 14 Feb 95 23:33:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18795; Tue, 14 Feb 95 23:27:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18789; Tue, 14 Feb 95 23:27:13 -0800 Received: from commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (PP); Wed, 15 Feb 1995 08:27:09 +0000 Received: from bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by commlink.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (1.37.109.11/16.2) id AA158033228; Wed, 15 Feb 1995 08:27:08 +0100 Received: by bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (4.1/ZDV-Uni-Tuebingen-1.0) id AA01205; Wed, 15 Feb 95 08:27:06 +0100 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 08:27:05 +0100 (MET) From: martin.spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de X-Sender: zrnsm01@bamm.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC-PINE with #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Dear pine team, is there a PC-Pine version that allows changing the From: header line? Thanks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Martin Spohn | Universitaet Tuebingen Z Tel. 07071 29 6970 Zentrum fuer Datenverarbeitung D E-mail: spohn@zdv.uni-tuebingen.de Abteilung Netze V Fax: 07071 29 5912 Brunnenstr. 27, 72074 Tuebingen | ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 03:03:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22591; Wed, 15 Feb 95 03:03:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21721; Wed, 15 Feb 95 02:58:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21715; Wed, 15 Feb 95 02:58:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rehLi-00038FC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 02:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sakuytti@rupikonna (Saku Ytti) Subject: About reading news and stuff Date: 15 Feb 1995 09:18:51 GMT Message-Id: <3hsgtr$i0@spt.fi> Status: O X-Status: How do I setup reading news, random sigs, high bit ascii (finnish o with dots and a with dots) And anything else nice to know about pine, please use Email. -- ________________________ |************************| ________________________| Saku "\SaZEN/" Ytti |_________________________ \ **********************| sakuytti@jazz.spt.fi |*********************** / \ Ookilantie 39 |________________________| Finland/Suomi / / 32700 Huittinen \ | | / (Europe), snailmail \ /_________________________\| |/__________________________\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 03:38:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23659; Wed, 15 Feb 95 03:38:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23794; Wed, 15 Feb 95 03:32:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23788; Wed, 15 Feb 95 03:32:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rehsR-00038FC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 03:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eerola@utu.fi (Erkki Eerola) Subject: OS2 tcpip pine available ??? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 10:14:52 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to use any version of pine from the dos window of os2 tcpip. When tried an error: packet driver not installed just comes up. If not, does aybody know any other IMAP mail program working in os2 tcpip? Erkki Eerola Turku university Turku, Finland From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 06:22:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29176; Wed, 15 Feb 95 06:22:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26318; Wed, 15 Feb 95 06:10:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from RND3B202.RS.AF.MIL by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26312; Wed, 15 Feb 95 06:10:40 -0800 Received: from HRS000.rs.af.mil by rnd3b202 (5.59/25-RS) id AA15781; Wed, 15 Feb 95 08:01:36 CST Received: from rsi004.rs.af.mil by HRS000.rs.af.mil id aa03432; 15 Feb 95 7:59 CST From: "SrA Darren S. O'Rourke" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: compile help X-Mailer: SCO Portfolio 2.0 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 7:41:31 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <9502150741.aa06017@RSI004.rs.af.mil> Status: O X-Status: Does anyone know how to compile Pine for SCO Unix. When I executed the command: build sco I got the following output. ********************* make args are "CC=cc" ln: Cannot create symbolic link on file system. ln: Cannot create symbolic link on file system. Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=ANSI OS=sco echo sco > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s ANSI systype ln: Cannot create symbolic link on file system. *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. Making Pico Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-sco.h os.h ln: Cannot create symbolic link on file system. *** Error code 2 Stop. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open size: bin/mtest: cannot open size: bin/imapd: cannot open bin/pico: 116520 + 28012 + 4024 = 148556 Done ************************ As you can see, Pico compiled just fine but Pine did not. Any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Darren S. O'Rourke please send response to orourkd@rnd3b202.rs.af.mil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 06:39:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29631; Wed, 15 Feb 95 06:39:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24804; Wed, 15 Feb 95 06:17:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24798; Wed, 15 Feb 95 06:17:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rekSA-00038DC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 06:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lawson@crl.com (Jimbo Lawson) Subject: PC slip connection and common addressbook ? Date: 15 Feb 1995 14:07:52 GMT Message-Id: <3ht1rp$309@nntp.crl.com> Status: O X-Status: I've got a psuedo-slip (twinsock) connection between my PC and Unix host. Is there a way for me to point at/access the pine addressbook & folders on the Unix host from PC Pine on my PC so I can keep everything in one place ? I don't believe I can do the dns solution posted earlier. Thanks :-) -- Jim Lawson lawson@crl.com ftp://ftp.crl.com/users/ro/lawson/jimbo.html "To an optimist, it's half full. To a pessimist, it's half empty. To an engineer, it's twice as big as necessary..." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 09:17:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08128; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:17:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00530; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:07:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00524; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:07:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ren8P-00038MC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andym@teleport.com (Andy McNiece) Subject: Slow Loading on AIX Date: 15 Feb 1995 08:50:09 -0800 Message-Id: <3htbc1$ktv@kelly.teleport.com> Status: O X-Status: I seem to remember a thread in the past about slow loading of Pine on an RS6000 with AIX. I did not have the problem then but now am having the problem. Could anyone shed any light on this? This seems to have occurred about the time I changed some ethernet addresses. -- ============================================================================ Andy McNiece Portland, Oregon USA andym@teleport.COM ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 09:42:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09669; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:42:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29879; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:33:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29873; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:33:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0renWM-00038YC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Selcuk Ozturk Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 09:29:01 EST Message-Id: <11755@ftp.econ.pitt.edu> References: In-Reply-To: your message of Tue Feb 14 16:15:59 1995 Status: O X-Status: # I've also seen people with a size 7 foot trying to wedge it into # a size 5 shoe. They were subsequently upset when they lost all feeling # in their feet and complained to the shoe manufacturer about their poorly # desiged shoes. # # Pine was designed as an IMAP client. It was done so with good # reason. Why would anyone want to shoehorn pine into a POP client when # the easiest and most benificial action to take would be to install the # imapd? Would you attempt to force Eudora into imap mode? # # Ed I think that installing imapd is not the "easiest and most beneficial" thing always. It is not the easiest thing if you don't have the root privileges or if you have to write the program yourself to implement it in KA9Q Nos. It is not the "most beneficial" thing either on every platform. The most important assumption behind the imap is that the server machine is more powerful and resourceful than the client. What about if the reverse is true as in my case. I don't want to say that Pine has to be a POP client. The decision is developement team's and I would respect it. But, the functionality seems to be there and doesn't work correctly. Either, it should be fixed or taken out completely. There is no sense in leaving a buggy portion of the code in the already huge Pine executable. Selcuk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 09:59:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10428; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:59:29 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00324; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:45:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00318; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:45:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0renhj-00038MC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 09:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sjentsch@earth.execpc.com (Scott Jentsch) Subject: Number of lines displayed in PINE Date: 15 Feb 1995 08:48:46 -0600 Message-Id: <3ht48e$cn8@earth.alpha.net> Status: O X-Status: Is PINE capable of displaying more than 25 lines at once? I have my terminal set up for 46 lines via SETENV LINES '46', which works for everything except PINE and the PICO editor. I've tried variations on the SETENV and SET commands, but to no avail. I would just like to know if these two programs are stuck in a 25-line world or if I'm not doing something right... Thanks in advance, Scott Jentsch sjentsch@execpc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 10:34:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12006; Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:34:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01117; Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:18:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01111; Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:18:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reoGM-00038DC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: j_chivas@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca (Jim Chivas ***) Subject: Pine Flags and other e-mail readers Date: 15 Feb 1995 16:59:43 GMT Message-Id: <3htbtv$9m9@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca> Status: O X-Status: Greetings: I would like to know how Pine implements the Flags that it shows for NEw, Answered, etc. mail. Is there a field in each mail item that reflects the status? Can I expect other e-mail readers to respect this flag or modify it in some way that Pine will not know about the next time I read my email with Pine? Thanks -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Chivas, Computing/Network Services email: jchivas@langara.bc.ca 100 west 49 avenue Voice: (604) 323-5390 Langara College Fax: (604) 323-5349 Vancouver, B.C. Canada V5Y 2Z6 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 10:46:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12641; Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:46:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01611; Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:35:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01605; Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:35:46 -0800 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA29075 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 15 Feb 1995 13:35:45 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:35:44 EST From: Joe Brennan Subject: Re: POP client??? In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 15 Feb 1995 09:29:01 EST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I think people are going to Pine for the user interface. Whether the backend should be IMAP or POP is a separate issue. We're getting pine to run POP because we want to distribute the CPU load over 8 login hosts in our unix cluster instead of running hundreds of IMAP processes on our one mailhub. Also involved in this choice is that we want users to keep mail in mbox and not spool, for disk quota reasons; so a connection to mailhub and the spool is needed solely to move new mail in, which is already a POP model. Now the University of Washington want IMAP, and we should recognize they have no great interest in designing and testing a POP implementation they won't use. We shouldn't expect them to write it for us. If that's what Ed is trying to say, OK. But don't act like IMAP answers all needs. What does the mail system at Washington look like, anyway? Just out of curiosity. What is the imap host and how many users is it handling? Ours is a Sparc 20 and we have 20,000 accounts with over 40,000 messages delivered daily... can't do much imap on that guy. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 10:57:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13081; Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:57:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03089; Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:50:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03083; Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:50:45 -0800 Received: from WHEELERAAF-FAXX.ARMY.MIL by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00420; Wed, 15 Feb 95 10:50:20 -0800 Received: from [150.137.60.17] by wheeleraaf-faxx.army.mil with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA04445; Wed, 15 Feb 95 08:49:51 -1000 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 08:51:24 -0800 (PST) From: "Minh Q. Ho" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC-PINE (fwd) X-Sender: minh@wheeleraaf-faxx.army.mil Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 11:16:11 -0800 (PST) From: Minh Q. Ho To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC-PINE Problem: My PC-Pine can only connect to my SMTP server for sending mail only for one session. Background: I have PC-Pine version 3.91. My SMTP server is a HP9000. My mail server is also the same HP9000. If I start my PC-Pine without the PINERC file and input the informations as I used PC-Pine, everythings work fine for that session. I can read mail and send mail as many time as I want, but once I exited from that session I cannot used that PINERC file again for connecting to my mail server to send mail. That PINERC file is only good for reading mail. If I try to use that PINERC file for connecting to my server to send mail, I always get the following error: [ Error connection to mail server: ] If I exit and delete my PINERC file and reinput the informations again when I use PINE, everything works fine again until I exit from PINE and the problem start all over again. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 11:27:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14353; Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:27:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02818; Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:17:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02812; Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:17:51 -0800 Received: from elvis.med.virginia.edu by uvaarpa.virginia.edu id aa27390; 15 Feb 95 14:17 EST Received: by elvis.med.Virginia.EDU (5.65c/1.34) id AA11070; Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:17:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:17:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Steven D. Majewski" X-Sender: sdm7g@elvis.med.Virginia.EDU To: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POP client??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Joe Brennan wrote: > I think people are going to Pine for the user interface. Whether the > backend should be IMAP or POP is a separate issue. Agreed. > We're getting pine to run POP because we want to distribute the CPU > load over 8 login hosts in our unix cluster instead of running > hundreds of IMAP processes on our one mailhub. Also involved in this > choice is that we want users to keep mail in mbox and not spool, for > disk quota reasons; so a connection to mailhub and the spool is needed > solely to move new mail in, which is already a POP model. But I don't see any reason why you can't configure pine and IMAP to meet these requirements. Why not distribute the IMAP servers ? [ There are a lot of possible mbox/spool configuration, but I'm not sure what exactly you want. It's hard to propose an alternative without knowing the details, but I don't understand why you need to funnel everything thru a single IMAP server. ] On paper, and from my own limited experience, I would have to judge IMAP as far superior to POP. But I haven't had experience with it in a large scale, and one option UVA is considering for their university wide mail system would be a IMAP based system, so if there is a specific reason that you think it won't scale up, I would like to know. ---| Steven D. Majewski (804-982-0831) |--- ---| Computer Systems Engineer University of Virginia |--- ---| Department of Molecular Physiology and Biological Physics |--- ---| Box 449 Health Science Center Charlottesville,VA 22908 |--- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 11:49:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15650; Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:49:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03314; Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:36:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from asl-labs.bc.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03302; Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:36:38 -0800 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.10/200.2.1.5) id AA22876; Wed, 15 Feb 1995 11:35:28 -0800 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 11:35:27 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Eudora/Pine To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We have a client that wishes to attach files etc via Eudora (PC) to us, and I was wondering if anyone knows if Eudora is MIME compliant? B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl-labs.bc.ca | |System Administration, | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | |+604-253-4188 | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 12:09:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16934; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:09:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04797; Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:59:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04791; Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:59:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reppp-00038DC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sholstea@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Steve Holstead) Subject: Re: Number of lines displayed in PINE Date: 15 Feb 1995 18:53:33 GMT Message-Id: <3htijd$12v6@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <3ht48e$cn8@earth.alpha.net> Status: O X-Status: There should be a setting in the config files found in the source code. Something like MAXLINES...... Scott Jentsch (sjentsch@earth.execpc.com) wrote: : Is PINE capable of displaying more than 25 lines at once? I have my : terminal set up for 46 lines via SETENV LINES '46', which works for : everything except PINE and the PICO editor. : I've tried variations on the SETENV and SET commands, but to no avail. : I would just like to know if these two programs are stuck in a 25-line : world or if I'm not doing something right... : Thanks in advance, : Scott Jentsch : sjentsch@execpc.com -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Holstead University of Alberta Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 C A N A D A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 12:11:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17094; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:11:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04741; Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:57:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04735; Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:57:17 -0800 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA03764 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:57:12 -0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 14:57:11 EST From: Joe Brennan To: "Steven D. Majewski" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POP client??? In-Reply-To: Your message of Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:17:48 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Actually the longer range plan is to split mailhub, and so at that point we can go back to IMAP. One thing is that PC clients will continue to grow in popularity, with our campus network reaching more and more rooms, so we won't have the level of control over user choices that we do now where a great majority still read mail on our hosts, and we will have to make IMAP work no matter what. IMAP does have many advantages. The lesson is to be sure you distribute the IMAP load if it is a big installation. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 12:41:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18529; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:41:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04454; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:23:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04448; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:23:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0req9t-00038DC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kwan@cactus.ots.utexas.edu (Johnny Kwan) Subject: any way to display article number on newsgroup messages Date: 15 Feb 95 10:30:16 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to display the news article number when viewing a newsgroup article in pine 3.91? Thanks, Johnny Kwan University of Texas System Office of Telecommunication Services kwan@cactus.ots.utexas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 12:48:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18901; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:48:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05557; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:29:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05551; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:29:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reqIe-00038OC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikeh Subject: Address Problem Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 16:19:58 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I'm using pine3.91 on my linux box and connect with SLIP to my internet account. I'm also using pop. I keep getting messages from my system administrator about my mail messages going to him. he said if this problem isn't rresolved in 48 hours I'll not be able to use pine. My address is mikeh@mordor.com and for some reason replies go to root@mordor.com. How can I change this to mikeh@mordor.com. The root@mordor.com address appears when I reply to a newsgroup posting from pine. Please help!! mikeh@mordor.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 12:54:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19241; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:54:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04949; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:44:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04943; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:44:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reqVt-00038DC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: Pine and MMDF Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:57:47 GMT Message-Id: References: <3hikag$qon@lavinia.worms.fh-rpl.de> Status: O X-Status: Ralf Naegele (naegele@worms.fh-rpl.de) wrote: : Has someone ever tried Pine to set up for MMDF? : I've got the sources and tried it, bit with no luck. Works fine for me, running SCO Unix 3.2.4.2 with MMDF IIb 43(f), where the (f) stands for "mucked about with by SCO". hat system are you running on, and how can you tell it isn't working? Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 13:23:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21041; Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:23:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06854; Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:14:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06848; Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:14:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0reqzr-00038DC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ted Stern Subject: Re: A better icon for Pine under X Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 09:25:15 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199502150656.WAA26639@dale.ucdavis.edu> Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 14 Feb 1995 hcpatel@ucdavis.edu wrote: > On 13 Feb 1995 15:45:22 -0800, Ted Stern profoundly wrote: > > :> The bitmap I use is attached. It is a slightly shrunken version of the > :> one on the Pine WWW site. > > > What is the URL for the pine WWW site? Also, since I am new to X, I have > no idea how you figured out all of the configuration you did for pine. > Any advice you could give would be helpful. > -- > > > ________________________________________ > >Hemang Patel hcpatel@dale.ucdavis.edu > The WWW URL for Pine information (includes archives of pine-info/comp.mail.pine) is http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ The bitmap you want is http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.xbm And no, I don't know how to specify what bitmap is used for the icon for window managers other than Mwm! In particular, if anybody knows how to set up an icon for Pine under Olwm, could you send the answer to Steven Feinholz I haven't been able to help him very much. -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 13:32:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21464; Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:32:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06055; Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:23:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06049; Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:23:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rer8d-00038DC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Subject: Help on sending message Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 12:01:48 CST Message-Id: <56113.jelorza@campus.leo.itesm.mx> Status: O X-Status: Hello, Does anybody knows how can I send a message to many people ( about 80 different address ) ? I have a distribution list on my address book ( Pine 3.91, running under RS6000 ) with maybe 80 persons, and when I try to send it a message Pine only send about 66, I don't know if this is a restriction or there are a better way to do that. Suggestions? Thanks in advance. Joaquin Joaquin Elorza Tena e-mail:jelorza@campus.leo.itesm.mx Software Engineer informatic Division Tecnologico de Monterrey Campus Leon. Mexico From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 14:07:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22676; Wed, 15 Feb 95 14:07:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07776; Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:59:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07770; Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:59:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rergm-00038DC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alexander Zimmermann Subject: mailcap Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 19:04:59 +0100 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, Can someone please tell me where to find a FAQ about mailcap. Another question that I have is: can pine work together with mailcap and what have I to do to get this working? Alex ----------------------------------------------- Alexander Zimmermann Smail: Preziosastr. 25 81927 Muenchen Germany Email: zimmerma@cip.informatik.uni-muenchen.de Also Internet-Slave for IMAGINE e.V., Munich Finger me to get a plan of my various activities. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 15:36:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26511; Wed, 15 Feb 95 15:36:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08851; Wed, 15 Feb 95 15:29:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08845; Wed, 15 Feb 95 15:29:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ret6b-00038CC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 15:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) Subject: Pine and 111-char Message-ID: lines Message-Id: <950214.235035.2z8.rnr.w164w@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 23:50:35 -0700 References: Status: O X-Status: I saw this today: (I've wrapped it for clarity) > Message-ID: 21296B-100000-100000-100000-100000-100000-100000-100000@ > srv1.freenet.calgary.ab.ca> are those 100000's all intentional? -- Russell Schulz russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca ersys!rschulz Shad 86c From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 16:02:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27613; Wed, 15 Feb 95 16:02:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10291; Wed, 15 Feb 95 15:53:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10285; Wed, 15 Feb 95 15:53:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0retTr-00038CC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 15:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joe Ducharme Subject: Re: WWW on Pine? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 13:41:21 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: You can get WWW via pine two ways. One way is getting a page without html tags and the other is with them (you get the page, save it as an html or htm file, and view it with your own browser. This is good if you are behind a firewall, I imagine. You must know the url you are requesting. Send email to: listserv@info.cern.ch no subject for pages without html tags type: send http://address.of.url/more/information/here for the tags still embedded, type: source http://address.of.url/more/information/here Of course, you'd type out the address you're interested in. NOTE: I haven't tried this myself, I'm just passing on what I read. Laters... *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: << Joe's Roadside Attraction >> :* *: << http://bluejay.creighton.edu/~jduche/ >> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 18:40:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05033; Wed, 15 Feb 95 18:40:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12995; Wed, 15 Feb 95 18:32:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12989; Wed, 15 Feb 95 18:32:12 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:31:48 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 10:31:45 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Selcuk Ozturk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POP client??? In-Reply-To: <11755@ftp.econ.pitt.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Selcuk Ozturk wrote: > I think that installing imapd is not the "easiest and most beneficial" > thing always. It is not the easiest thing if you don't have the root > privileges or if you have to write the program yourself to implement > it in KA9Q Nos. It is not the "most beneficial" thing either on every > platform. The most important assumption behind the imap is that the > server machine is more powerful and resourceful than the client. What > about if the reverse is true as in my case. I don't believe that IMAP puts much more, if any, strain on your system resources than POP. I don't know where you got the impression that "server machine is more powerful" in the case of IMAP and not also in the case of POP. IMHO, it would be more worth your while to implement IMAP even if you have to port the IMAP daemon to your machine. The time would be well spent to acquire the added funtions of IMAP. At least it is time not spent in trying to get an unsupported and undocumented feature working. > I don't want to say that Pine has to be a POP client. The decision is > developement team's and I would respect it. But, the functionality > seems to be there and doesn't work correctly. Either, it should be > fixed or taken out completely. There is no sense in leaving a buggy > portion of the code in the already huge Pine executable. I could find no information in the documentation that stated this this feature is available or supported. I believe that the Pine Team has stated in the past *not* to expect this undocumented feature to remain. BTW, you'd be surprise how many undocumented features to be found in "payware". Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 18:59:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05545; Wed, 15 Feb 95 18:59:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13289; Wed, 15 Feb 95 18:51:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ip129179-30-16.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13273; Wed, 15 Feb 95 18:51:33 -0800 Received: by hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:51:10 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 10:51:05 -0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Joe Brennan Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POP client??? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Joe Brennan wrote: > I think people are going to Pine for the user interface. Whether the > backend should be IMAP or POP is a separate issue. Mostly true. Some are making their choice "pine" or "ECS Mail" because they support IMAP and perform better than POP in a mobile environment. > We're getting pine to run POP because we want to distribute the CPU > load over 8 login hosts in our unix cluster instead of running > hundreds of IMAP processes on our one mailhub. Also involved in this > choice is that we want users to keep mail in mbox and not spool, for > disk quota reasons; so a connection to mailhub and the spool is needed > solely to move new mail in, which is already a POP model. I'm a bit confused here. IMAP is a superset of POP. How you distribute email over various machines is unrelated to what protocol to use to access individuals email. Also, (at least on the systems I'm familiar), them method to invoke "popd" is the same as "imapd". That is via inetd. In both cases a copy of the "daemon" is invoked for each user. > Now the University of Washington want IMAP, and we should recognize > they have no great interest in designing and testing a POP > implementation they won't use. We shouldn't expect them to write it > for us. If that's what Ed is trying to say, OK. But don't act like > IMAP answers all needs. Neither POP nor IMAP will be the answer for eveyone's needs. All I'm saying is pine is designed to work well with IMAP in the same way the a client such as Eudora is designed to work well with POP. I believe would be doing a dis-service to jam either one into the others world. > What does the mail system at Washington look like, anyway? Just out > of curiosity. What is the imap host and how many users is it > handling? Ours is a Sparc 20 and we have 20,000 accounts with over > 40,000 messages delivered daily... can't do much imap on that guy. I believe they have a rather large user community running IMAP on a not so powerful machine. (This is from memory of a discussion quite some time ago on a POP v.s. IMAP discussion.) Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 20:28:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08278; Wed, 15 Feb 95 20:28:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15542; Wed, 15 Feb 95 20:20:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15536; Wed, 15 Feb 95 20:20:38 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA05169; Wed, 15 Feb 1995 23:20:25 +0500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 23:20:24 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: "Douglas H. Quebbeman" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE Editor needs a SHELL facility In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1170 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 9 Feb 1995, Douglas H. Quebbeman wrote: > I'd like to thank everyone who informed me of the control-Z command, > which, when used with the -z command line switch, allow me to shell > out from PINE to the UNIX shell. It would be nice if this would work > without having to invoke the POSTPONE command (Control-O) of which > I was already aware, but I suppose I'll just have to get used to it, > or jump back into EMACS (which I haven't used since 1982). Your message of 9 Feb took a long time to get here! Methinks the gateway has a problem. Instead of messing around with the -z switch, why don't you just alter Pine's configuration to allow it any time? In 3.90 and 3.91, select Setup from the main menu, then select Configuration. Or in earlier versions use your favorite text editor to edit your .pinerc file. In either case, you want to enable-suspend. There is no need to use ^o to postpone a partly-composed message before suspending Pine with ^z. Hit ^z with your message on screen. When you're ready to come back to Pine, enter fg and you'll be right back where you left off. EMACS??? Its best left in 1982 where it belongs! :-) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:13:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13171; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:13:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17193; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:07:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from arthur.cs.purdue.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17187; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:07:26 -0800 Received: from lab19.cs.purdue.edu (root@lab19.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.11.119]) by arthur.cs.purdue.edu (8.6.4/PURDUE_CS-1.3) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 02:07:24 -0500 Received: from lab19.cs.purdue.edu (simmonmt@lab19.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.11.119]) by lab19.cs.purdue.edu (8.6.4/PURDUE_CS-1.3) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 02:07:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 02:07:21 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Simmons To: Pine Mailing List Subject: Enhancement request Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Could the next version include some kind of status indicator for applied functions. For example, when you apply export to a list of newsgroup messages, it just sits there for a while with no indication that anything is being done... Even just the number of the message currently being acted on would be great. Thanks Matt Simmons -- Purdue University -- West Hell, Indiana PUCC Lab Assistant - Purdue Ski Team - Purdue Ski Club - Lambda Chi Alpha simmon04@cc.purdue.edu, simmonmt@cs.purdue.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:34:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13683; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:34:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18423; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:30:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18417; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:30:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0bm-00038CC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rob.wiebe@ednet.bc.ca Subject: The arts Message-Id: <9502151121.A2074wk@ednet.bc.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 11:21:30 Status: O X-Status: HI I THINK THAT PEOPLE OR OR AROUND 70-80% OF ALL TEENAGERS LISTEN TO HEAVY METAL I AM ONE OF THE 20-30% OF TEENS WHO LISTEN TO CLASSICAL,JASS, OPERA OR ANY OTHER MUSIC OF THE ARTS AND I APRICIATE THAT TYPE OF MUSIC. ROB WIEBE LANGLEY B.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:34:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13717; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:34:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18463; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:31:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18457; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:31:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0bu-00038fC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josephine.chan@ednet.bc.ca Subject: Weighted grades Message-Id: <9502151330.A2157wk@ednet.bc.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 13:30:51 Status: O X-Status: Hi my name is Audrey Wong and you can find me on Ednet somewhere in the Vancouver Lower Mainland area. I just want to say go canucks. and stop the kkk and what they are trying to do.. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:34:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13727; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:34:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17477; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:30:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17471; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:30:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0bq-00038VC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: greeno6@netcom.com (._-.-..-_--_) Subject: Re: PIRATED DOOM2? HELP! Message-Id: References: <3hija8$no5@news.cloud9.net> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 21:22:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: ~name (stryfe@iquest.net) wrote: : I got a reason why it wont install right.... Your fucking : LAME..... And pirated warez have nothing to do with it... : -Stryfe- Your fucking lame WHAT... oh, I get it...you meant to write you're. Ahhhh. *wont*? pirated warez *has* nothing... who is the lame one? **he's sure stoopid...but he's kewl cuz he spellz with a z**** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:35:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13779; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:35:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18487; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:31:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18481; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:31:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0c2-00038zC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kulpa@octopus.wr.usgs.gov Subject: Stop the speculation! Date: 15 Feb 1995 21:04:34 GMT Message-Id: <3htq92$oea@agate.berkeley.edu> Status: O X-Status: Being an ocean lover, and spending ALOT of time in the water, I can Say Jellyfish stings (depending on the species) can REALLY, REALLY be painful. So, it's not drugs or anything else. I got stung by a Portugese-Man-of-War, and a Box Jelly fish (at seprate times!) and It was THE MOST PAINFUL experience of my life. No lie! The nematocyst cells of a jelly fish (the cells that sting) really put the muscle cells into shock, and depending on the sting, can have lasting effects for weeks. If you were ever stung by a Jelly you know what I mean. People have Died from Jelly stings! So I'm sick of the "What's The Real Story Behind Jerry's Cancellation" Threads!!! Stop the insinuations! Thank You for letting me get this off my chest!! See ya at Oaktown in TWO WEEKS! YEAH! . <*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*><*> James Kulpa United States Geological Survey Branch of Pacific Marine Geology Palo Alto, CA 415 354 3228 kulpa@octopus.wr.usgs.gov From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:35:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13800; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:35:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17517; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:31:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17511; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:31:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0by-00038pC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aokeefe@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (OKEEFE) Subject: Re: NEED A DATE Date: 16 Feb 1995 02:44:48 GMT Message-Id: <3hue70$5t8@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> References: <5+5a0gM.riverheadhs@delphi.com> Status: O X-Status: riverheadhs@delphi.com wrote: : DO YOU NEED A DATE OR JUST SEX CALL 516 369 7845 Yeah, we're all a bunch of sex-crazed maniacs here, aren't we???? PIECE OF SHIT!!! QUIT POSTING THIS *SHIT* HERE!!!!! There is no place for this *FUCKING CRAP* here. GOT IT???? Take it to alt.sex!!!! Grendel -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Memory, prophecy, and fantasy- The past, the future and the dreaming moment in between- Are all in one country, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:36:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13829; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:36:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17533; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:31:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17527; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:31:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0c6-000399C; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aokeefe@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (OKEEFE) Subject: Re: CEASER THE GEASER Date: 16 Feb 1995 02:46:35 GMT Message-Id: <3hueab$5v9@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> References: <1995Feb15.181506.1376@onion.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: Richard D. Pearson (rdp1@onion.demon.co.uk) wrote: : LISTEN TO AM 1089, 1053 FOR THE BEST RADIO SHOW ON THE EARTH. : 22.00 TO 1.00 MONDAY TO FRIDAY. : ANY QUESTIONS MAIL ME!!! : CEASER THE GEASER=BEST RADIO SHOW IN THE WORLD!!!!!! I disagree, Mr. Screamer. Howard Stern has the best radio show on Earth. Accept no alternatives for they are nothing but copies!!! Grendel -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Memory, prophecy, and fantasy- The past, the future and the dreaming moment in between- Are all in one country, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:36:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13854; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:36:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17543; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:32:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17537; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:32:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0ca-0003ASC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dennis Roberts Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 15:37:00 EST Subject: Re: Combining Ridits instead of rankings In-Reply-To: mglacy AT LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU -- Thu, 2 Feb 1995 08:51:54 -0700 Status: O X-Status: Do I read you correctly ... by implication I assume you want to give less weight to the "grading" process to tests that happen to turn out to be easier, and more weight to exams that turn out to be harder? Or, another way to look at it is ... do you want to give more "weight" to a score (X) earned by a student on a hard test than to someone who earns X on an easy test? It seems to me that if your goal is to do that, since difficulty has more or less an interval meaning (mean on test out of number of items or points possible) ... you are trying to combine information using a lower ordered statistic than the quality that the data presents you with. I don't understand why you want to resort to combining rankings (more or less) in this way. Can you elaborate? It seems to me a more logical approach is to FIX a scale ahead of time, and let the fact that test will vary in difficulty be taken into consideration by the scale that one works towards: ie, students that are really smart will do well on tests regardless of whether they are hard or easy ... but weak students cannot do that. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:37:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13913; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:37:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17559; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:33:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17553; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:33:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0ce-0003AcC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: organist@southern.co.nz (Martin Kane) Subject: Re: eNews: Chinese parents cry racism over NZ school's English requirement Date: 16 Feb 1995 02:43:54 GMT Message-Id: <3hue5a$i4e@southern.co.nz> References: <3h1k5p$5rj@cronkite.seas.gwu.edu> <3hn2ji$fad@net.auckland.ac.nz> Status: O X-Status: Lin Nah (linnah@comu2.auckland.ac.nz) wrote: : The lastest in the saga... : The Education Minister has declared the actions of the Auckland : primary school principals illegal. : (Yes the same govt some have been so quick to label as racist) Of course it was illegal, but was that really the point of the whole argument? The fact is that there are enough of a lack of resources in the classroom as it is without the extra necessary for a large amount of ESL or NESB children. Regards, Martin Kane -- Martin & Anne Kane - organist@southern.co.nz - Certainly interested in hearing from all pipe organists. Through Southern Internet Services - New Zealand From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:37:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13942; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:37:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18501; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:32:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18495; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:32:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0c9-00039JC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eernst@quercus.daimi.aau.dk (Erik Ernst) Subject: Immediate constructs (Was: Re: Recursive, double INNER) Date: 15 Feb 1995 19:24:27 GMT Message-Id: References: <3hdl0d$c2l@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> In-Reply-To: alfh@byleist.ifi.uio.no's message of 10 Feb 1995 14:33:20 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article alfh@byleist.ifi.uio.no (Alf-Ivar Holm) writes: In article <3hdl0d$c2l@belfort.daimi.aau.dk> jco@daimi.aau.dk (Jens Cornelius Olsen) writes: [snip] > it was (or is) considered to include > a shorter version of the two statements involving callMe in the syntax: > > &(this(forAllThings)##) > > but for now we are forced to use the callMe variable. Although the (this(patternName)##) statement would be shorter, I guess the use would be limited to object creation. (No computed references and the like.) It would be very nice to have &(this(patternName)##) and also patternName(# ... #)##. They are both examples of immediate, anonymous constructs, i.e. constructs that introduce and use program entities which are normally explicitly declared and named. An example of this which has been around for many years is the (lambda ...) construct in lisp et al. In BETA a prominent example is 'patternName(# ... #)' as an imperative. An immediate, anonymous construct is relevant whenever the given program entity will only be used at one point in the program. When the name is only used once, it just pollutes the name space of the program and makes it harder to read and more tedious to write. Here's a nice, contrived example using 'patternName(# ... #)##': Suppose a chemicalPlant forks off threads to control aspects of chemical processes, like &|system(# stabilize: ^stabilizer; do &pressure_stabilizer[]->stabilize[]; 35.0->stabilize.best_value; cycle(# do get_pressure->stabilize->set_pressure; 1->sleep #) #)[] -> fork; where stabilizer: realObject(# best_value: @real do INNER #); and "get_pressure" reads some kind of meter and "set_pressure" interfaces to some external pressure control device. Then we might want to adjust the strategy used by pressure_stabilizer now and then, like stabilizer (# do (if true // value>1.2*best_value then high_alert; best_value*value->sqrt->value; // value<0.8*best_value then low_alert; best_value*value->sqrt->value; else no_alert; (value+best_value)/2.0->value; if); #)## -> chemicalPlant.pressure_stabilizer##; This specialization of stabilizer is only used at this point of the code, and the chemicalPlant wants to make instances of pressure_stabilizers. So we want a pattern variable, and we want it from an immediate (anonymous) construct. It's very much like another immediate, anonymous construct, do ... chemicalPlantPattern (# pressure_stabilizer::< (# do (if true // value>1.2*best_value then high_alert; best_value*value->sqrt->value; // value<0.8*best_value then low_alert; best_value*value->sqrt->value; else no_alert; (value+best_value)/2.0->value; if); #); #); ... except that we _cannot_ afford the luxury of creating a _new_ chemicalPlant but need instead to adjust the behaviour of an already existing one. In my experience situations like this one are not all that rare, and I think the ability of BETA to support anonymous constructs (other than this one, as yet) is very important. Without that, the source code would be a lot less readable (and also much more tedious to write). Actually I don't understand that the importance of immediate constructs seems to be an absolute non-issue in most news groups discussing programming languages! A typical BETA program probably contains a substantially larger number of classes/patterns than a program of comparable complexity in, say, Eiffel, Sather, or C++. It is simply a lot easier to create patterns/classes when immediate constructs are allowed, and the many little enhancements or "customizations" of already established functionality is clearly one of the forms that widespread reuse can take. Does anybody see any serious problem (other than the grammar :-) in allowing the construct ## as a ? sin-comments-looked-cere-forward-to-ly yours, -- Erik Ernst eernst@daimi.aau.dk Computer Science Department of Aarhus University, Denmark From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:38:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13977; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:38:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17573; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:33:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17567; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:33:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0ci-0003AmC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nghiav@whirlwind.seas.ucla.edu (Nghia Vuong) Subject: What is Nuoc Mam (Vietnamese sauce stuff) made of? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 21:00:48 GMT Status: O X-Status: >Phil Laak (UltraMn1@ix.netcom.com) wrote: >>: you this liquidy red/ yellow sauce stuff (Nuoc Mam). I love the stuff nuoc mam can be made from fish sauce that you can buy from asian supermarkets. please go to either chinatown, or little saigon, if you have one in your neighborhood. mix the nuoc mam with warm white vinegar and sugar ( to taste ), crushed garlic ( fresh ones, not the flaky stuff that comes in a jar ). and store the whole thing in a glass jar. when you are ready to use it, add some nuoc mam in a side dish and freshly crushed red peppers. if you need an exact-amount- ingredients recipe, post the request, and i will try. i am sorry but i keep changing the recipe depending on my mood and guests. the current recipe that i used came from my own mother who is pure chinese, so go figure. by the way, the "correct" term is "nuoc cham". nuoc mam is pure, or impure depending on what brands you buy, fish sauce. "impure" means that it is either a mixture of fish and other sea-based whatchamacallit or just pure whatchamacallit. hey, on the other hand, where is your sense of adventure? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:38:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13998; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:38:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18527; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:33:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18521; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:32:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0cE-00039TC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "K. Muthu Kumar" Subject: Re: MS Visual C++ 1.5, list boxes In-Reply-To: Your message of Tue, 14 Feb 95 09:50:30 GMT.<11415@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 22:57:49 GMT Status: O X-Status: The only solution is to use Owner draw listbox. Associate a COLORREF value to each item using SetItemData method. In DrawItem method, draw the item using the color ( GetItemData). I hope this tip helps. >Path: btcase!bt!pipex!uknet!ukc!eagle.ukc.ac.uk!mg >From: mg@ukc.ac.uk (M.Golding) >Newsgroups: comp.lang.c++ >Subject: MS Visual C++ 1.5, list boxes >Date: Tue, 14 Feb 95 09:50:30 GMT >Organization: University of Kent at Canterbury, UK. >Lines: 15 >Sender: mg@ukc.ac.uk >Distribution: world >Message-ID: <11415@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> >NNTP-Posting-Host: eagle.ukc.ac.uk > > >howdy, > >Is there an easy way of allowing a list box (CListBox) in visual c++ to >have different coloured items within the list ??? > >for example, a liabrary system that has a list of books that are out, the items >in red being overdrawn the ones in blue are not YET. > >cheers >Martin > > > > K. Muthu Kumar, British Telecom Plc, PP.304, Lion House, 72-5 Red Lion Street, Holborn, LONDON - WC1R 4RT, UNITED KINGDOM CIX: kmkumar@cix.compulink.co.uk CIS: 100411,743 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:38:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14020; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:38:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17650; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:35:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17644; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:35:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0ct-0003BGC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mullerp@watserv.ucr.edu (Peder G Muller) Subject: NEXT NIN RELEASE? WHEN? Date: 15 Feb 1995 21:00:04 GMT Message-Id: <3htq0k$ddn@galaxy.ucr.edu> Status: O X-Status: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:38:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14046; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:38:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17617; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:34:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17611; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:34:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0cp-0003B6C; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: david.singh@ednet.bc.ca Subject: Seeking-info on human sexualtiy ed. Message-Id: <9502151940.A2325wk@ednet.bc.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Feb 95 19:40:09 Status: O X-Status: I am a highschool teacher in Vancouver...I have implemented a program of human sexuality education in the modified grade 10 science program... the results have been all positive since this course de mystifies this topic to the kids.... David Singh....Ednet From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:38:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14047; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:38:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17589; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:34:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17583; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:34:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0cM-00039nC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maverick@cs.berkeley.edu (Vance Maverick) Subject: Re: Slavery,who was responsible? Date: 15 Feb 1995 21:05:45 GMT Message-Id: References: <1995Jan26.223335.25497@adobe.com <3grmd9$6vc@agate.berkeley.edu> In-Reply-To: s's message of 15 Feb 1995 18:21:41 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article s (big oak) writes: > I have been in interested in the role of the Episcopal Church > in slavery and the Confederacy; ever since I went to an old > Episcopalian Church with a old girlfriend a couple of years > ago. the reasons I feel that it might have had a role are : [evidence deleted.] I'm afraid you know too much. We'll have to kill you now. With logic like this, you could prove that flowing neckties were the cause of slavery. Vance From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:38:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14069; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:38:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18541; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:33:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18535; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:33:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0cH-00039dC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aokeefe@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (OKEEFE) Subject: Hellooooo???? Date: 16 Feb 1995 03:07:59 GMT Message-Id: <3hufif$7jq@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello? Where is everybody? @Spirit@? Rat Queen? Anyone???? Grendel -- Memory, prophecy, and fantasy- The past, the future and the dreaming moment in between- Are all in one country, Living one immortal Day. To know that is Wisdom. To use this is the Art. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:39:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14120; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:39:24 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18557; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:34:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18551; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:34:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0cl-0003AwC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mdaniels@eehpx48.cen.uiuc.edu (Marlon Daniels) Subject: dip gives me :hostname lookup failure. Why?!?!?!? Date: 15 Feb 1995 20:31:20 GMT Message-Id: <3htoao$c2v@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi. I'm running 1.1.59 and am having problems with dip.When I try to execute my login script or even run dip interactively, I get the following message: mothership:hostname lookup failed. or something like that.My machines name is mothership and has no other network devices.I am confused, because it worked earlier and I don't know why dip would be trying to lookup a hostname.Does this have anything to do with my rc.inet1 file or my /etc/HOSTNAME or something?Please help!!I need to get my homework done!!!!Thanks in advance. Marlon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:40:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14158; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:40:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18573; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:34:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18567; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:34:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0cP-00039xC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aokeefe@s-cwis.unomaha.edu (OKEEFE) Subject: Re: affirmative action Date: 16 Feb 1995 03:13:52 GMT Message-Id: <3huftg$8bs@s-cwis.unomaha.edu> References: <1293541373.1033757@sednet.mcd.on.ca> Status: O X-Status: Jonathan Abourbih (Jonathan_Abourbih@sednet.mcd.on.ca) wrote: : >i wanted to comment on affirmative action, and how blatantly racsist it : >is. somewhere in the constitution, it prohibits discrimination, right? : You're right. In the American constitution, discrimination is prohibited. Up : here in Canada, though, our Charter of Rights and Freedoms also prohibits : discrimination *except* when used as part of an affirmative action program. : This stinks. When are businesses going to stop hiring based on race, and : start hiring based on qualifications? : --Jonathan Abourbih : jabourbih@sednet.mcd.on.ca Let's wake up here, people. We are talking about discrimination, NOT racism. Racism is an off-shoot of discrimination. The constitution says that one cannot discriminate on the basis of race, color, sex, religion, and age. It does not say anything about discrimination against homosexuals (which it should) nor does it say anything about discrimination against "fat people." There are other discriminations out there that go on that are perfectly legal. That's what the whole gay-rights movement is all about. And a business man would much rather hire a shapely female secretary than someone who might be overweight, but more qualified for the job. America isn't as swell as some think, eh? Grendel -- Memory, prophecy, and fantasy- The past, the future and the dreaming moment in between- Are all in one country, Living one immortal Day. To know that is Wisdom. To use this is the Art. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 15 23:41:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14240; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:41:35 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18597; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:35:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18591; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:35:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf0cT-0003A7C; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lynne@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Lynne D Jeffers) Subject: Re: Circumcision scar Date: 15 Feb 1995 20:40:19 GMT Message-Id: <3htorj$fth@news.acns.nwu.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Michelle wrote: >Question for you, Mr Hampton. Do you similarly regard vaccinating/ >innoculating a small child - a prophylactic procedure - as assault? >Why the poor thing might not understand the reason, and I certainly >remember some rather painful jags... > >Can't you accept that many people would similarly argue that having >their sons circumcized is more beneficial than not? > >Despite your pretty one-sided shock-horror propaganda, I think most >people would accept that there does seem to be some evidence that >circumcision is useful in preventing penile (and possibly cervical) >cancer and reducing urinary tract infections. I doubt that. There is no conclusive evidence supporting the preventions you mention. There is no prophylactic advantage to indiscriminate foreskin removal. >What about the >unfortunate cases of men developing penile cancer who have been >blissfully ignorant about hygiene behind their foreskins and gone to >the doctor far too late? There is no cause and effect relationship between not cleaning an intact penis and penile cancer. How many women need to have parts of their vulvas surgically removed because they don't clean themselves??? >I have to say that I wasn't aware of any 'circumcision controversy' >before I stared reading these hysterical postings, and to be honest >I can't help wondering if you're not suffering from some sort of >neurosis that you're fixating upon being circumcized. If you want to >feel a victim, then that's fine, but please try and accept that there's >millions of men out there quite happy with their condition. Just try to >remember that the biggest sex organ is between the ears, as they say, >and if you're going to feel debilitated, then that might be the reason >rather that anything being wrong with your penis. > >Just something to think over, though I doubt if it'll make much >difference... People in America focus on so many different aspects of their physical bodies...women slap cosmetics on their faces in a vain attempt to make themselves beautiful...balding men go to extremes to remedy their baldness... women of all ages focus on being thin (some to the extent of becoming anorexic or bulimic)...women have their breasts enlarged...men and women get facelifts...men look into ways of enlarging their penises...ad infinitum. Aside from the anorexics and bulimics, are these people neurotic? Millions of women out there are very happy with the size of their breasts; does this mean that those who choose breast enlargement (or reduction) are overreacting? That's certainly not the message our society gives. If breast surgery gives these women a better sexual self-image, then good for them. Why can't the same be said for those men who aren't satisfied with the current state of their penises? Wayne is focusing on unnecessary surgery that was performed on his penis when he was an infant. Why is that wrong? Just because *you* and others don't think it's a big deal does not trivialize Wayne's view. If you don't like what Wayne posts, then don't read it. I personally appreciate Wayne's presence on USENET News. Trying to get parents-to-be to consider not allowing their sons to be circumcised is a good thing. I wonder how you would feel if some physician sliced off your labia as an infant? Would you be upset, or you would you just deal with what was done to you? Circumcision, male or female, is genital mutilation, plain and simple. People may try to justify it as a tribal/cultural/religious rite, but it *is* genital mutilation. -Lynne =============================================================================== Lynne D Jeffers ldj@nwu.edu Academic Computing & Network Services Northwestern University disclaimer: these opinions are mine, and have nothing to do with Northwestern From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:05:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15005; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:05:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18947; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:58:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18941; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:58:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf11m-00038yC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John D. Taylor" Subject: Re: Netscape test Date: 16 Feb 1995 00:47:41 GMT Message-Id: <3hu7bd$66j@giga.bga.com> References: <3hu6o3$66j@giga.bga.com> Status: O X-Status: "John D. Taylor" wrote: > > qwerqwer > > Follow up post From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:05:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15025; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:05:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18001; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:59:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17995; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:58:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf11q-000397C; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flint@teleport.com (Brian Haber) Subject: Re: Hot Guy Needs Sublet/Room in NYC ASAP Date: 16 Feb 1995 01:21:35 GMT Message-Id: References: <3hdn8b$jk7@male.EBay.Sun.COM> <3hhdqi$3tc0@theory.tc.cornell.edu> Status: O X-Status: Melinda wrote: > Besides, all this SAT score posting suggests that glb people may > not have the good taste that we're thought to have. But only if you believe anyone here takes SAT scores as a serious indication of intellectual ability... at least no IQs are being bandied about. -- Brian Haber "...you tell yourself you're not my kind, but you don't even know your mind..." - Steely Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:05:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15039; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:05:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17979; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:58:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17973; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:58:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf11j-00038oC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vx@teleport.com (V-X) Subject: Re: Canter and Siegel, cyber.sell.com Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:10:00 +1000 Message-Id: References: <3hgv6m$p85@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: In article lathrop@primenet.com (Douglas Lathrop) writes: >Just came across this on primenet.general. Thought I'd share it with >interested parties here. >In article <3hgv6m$p85@news.primenet.com> lippard@Primenet.Com (James J. >Lippard) writes: >>Thanks to the conscientious Primenet users who have been reporting the >>recent Canter & Siegel spam on alt.current-events.net-abuse. >>PSI, the network provider for C&S's cyber.sell.com, has cut off their >>connection effective today. >>-- >>Jim Lippard lippard@primenet.com lippard@ediacara.org >>Web Administrator, Primenet lippard@skeptic.com >>Phoenix, Arizona http://www.primenet.com/~lippard/ YEAH!!! (P.S. Jim Lippard is a wonderful man, and a Jack Chick fan, who loaned me his out-of-print collection for scanning purposes all the way from Phoenix. What a guy.) V-X can draw like nobody's business. Resume and examples awailable at http://www.teleport.com/~vx Home of the Unofficial WWW/FTP Jack Chick Archive! Canter Scientology Siegel Week 1 0 Down 150 to go... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:05:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15069; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:05:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18128; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:02:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18122; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:01:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12G-0003AQC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kanti@ibmoto.com (Kanti Suryadevara) Subject: Austin to Houston Airline ticket Date: 15 Feb 1995 16:15:38 -0600 Message-Id: <3htuea$ue8@sloslide.ibmoto.com> Status: O X-Status: I have an airline ticket from Austin to Houston, leaving on the 23rd of Feb at 6:40pm, reaching at 7:25pm. It is on Continental Airlines flight #107 and it costs $85. Selling for $40/OBO. Call (512)795-7218 or (512)478-9427 email kanti@ibmoto.com Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:06:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15098; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:06:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19114; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:02:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19106; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:02:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12N-0003AlC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fazle Ramzan Subject: Mountain Bike for sale Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:45:36 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have a 20 in GT for sale I originally paid $600 pluss for it my freshamn year in college and wound up putting it in storage at my aprents house...it's in brand new condition...i even have the instruction manual for it.....am asking $350 for it...if interested please email me at fazle@u.washington.edu (all lower case) thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:06:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15139; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:06:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18031; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:59:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18019; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:59:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf11Z-00038TC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: charles.herrick@amd.com Subject: Re: What's up with Flamingo Automotive? Message-Id: References: <3hc36s$qq@giga.bga.com> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 00:43:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <3hc36s$qq@giga.bga.com> llb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) writes: > There have been quite a few Usenet patrons that have recommended > Flamingo. I personally know 2 people who had good experiences (one > of which *I* recommended based on the experience of the first!), > but so far their grade is a big, fat F for customer service with me. > > I have left messages with them 3 times in the last 2 weeks in an > attempt to get an estimate for work on my car. Flamingo is an endangered species, but in a nice way... they're so popular, it's getting hard to get in. The brother of the owner lives across the street from me, and we're friends... email me your phone number, and I'll suitably chastise him into calling you! cnh contents intended to represent only personal opinions From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:06:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15160; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:06:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19064; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:01:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19058; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:01:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12c-0003BYC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gnudd@bga.com (Greg Nudd) Subject: Re: Texas Air Care/IM240 Date: 16 Feb 1995 01:10:51 GMT Message-Id: References: <3hrnnm$odf@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3hrnnm$odf@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, buckw1@aol.com (Buck W1) wrote: > Hi, > Does anyone have current info on the subject or know where I can get > it....later info than the fact that it is suspended for 90 days. I want to > know what changes are being proposed. > > > Thanks > Don.Wendel@YOB.COM You can try the TNRCC (512-239-1000, and ask for the Mobile Source division), they can't tell you much until the politicians decide what they want to do. The major cities in Texas are counting on the I&M program for substantial emission reduction credits toward attainment of the federal ozone standard. If the Clean Air Act Amendments of 1990 aren't repealed, those emission reductions are going to come out of somebody's hide. Small businesses and large industrial types aren't too happy about that, especially the DFW business community. EPA has backed off on one aspect. That is, you can now get your car fixed and tested at the same place. In the old system if you failed the test, you had to go somewhere else to get it fixed and then come back to retest. EPA said that they would allow you to re-test at your mechanic. Other than that, I don't think the plan has changed substantially - it has just been delayed. I'm sure that the state legislature and governor will come up with a substantially different plan, but they don't have much time given the short legislative session and so many other issues on the agenda. I also don't expect the governor to try to gut his dad's Clean Air Act. I think that it is a flawed program. Most of the emissions from mobile sources come from "gross emitters". I've heard that over 90% of the cars tested passed. It seems like some remote sensing system would be a less intrusive way of identifing the bad actors. -- Greg Nudd - Austin, Tx. - gnudd@bga.com WWW home page: http://www.realtime.net/~gnudd/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:06:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15168; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:06:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18011; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:59:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18005; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:59:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf11W-00038CC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ANNA@warman.demon.co.uk (Anna Warman) Subject: Re: Vaseline? References: <789938977snz@dlshaw.demon.co.uk> <789959319snz@corixia.demon.co.uk> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 18:23:52 +0000 Message-Id: <792354232snz@warman.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: In article gme@tadpole.co.uk "Gareth M. Evans" writes: > Dribble ??? > Gareth __ ANNA Sig's taken an extra week's leave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:06:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15202; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:06:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19018; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:00:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19012; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:00:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf127-00039wC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "John D. Taylor" Subject: Re: Netscape test Date: 16 Feb 1995 00:54:11 GMT Message-Id: <3hu7nj$66j@giga.bga.com> References: <3hu6o3$66j@giga.bga.com> <3hu7bd$66j@giga.bga.com> Status: O X-Status: "John D. Taylor" wrote: > > "John D. Taylor" wrote: > > > > qwerqwer > > > > > Follow up post 2nd follow up to test thread display technique From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:06:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15204; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:06:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19082; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:01:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19076; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:01:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12f-0003BiC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ian@sharpip.demon.co.uk (Ian Sharp) Subject: Re: Req: On this day in history info? References: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 20:55:00 +0000 Message-Id: <02091995205541um@sharpip.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: On 8 Feb 1995 13:56:32 GMT, in eef013@news.salford.ac.uk (Rob Cooper) wrote..... >Hi All... > > Anyone know where I can get an "on this day in history" thing from? > > Rob Well - if you're including books amongst your specification of 'things' then two books doing the rounds on the suplus/junk book stores at the moment are :- 1) British History, Rodney Castleden, Parragon (1994), and 2) World History, Rodney Castleden, Parragon (1994) expect to pay GBP 2-3 each. Otherwise, if you mean electronic versions, let me know! #include 73, -- Ian Sharp: Bath, England (QRA: IO81tj) InterNet : Ian@sharpip.demon.co.uk AX25-Net : G7MZY @ GB7IMB.#41.GBR.EU Ampr-Net : g7mzy@g7mzy.ampr.org PGP 2.6 : public key available on request. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:06:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15245; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:06:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18931; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:58:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18925; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:58:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf11f-00038dC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve@iniquus.demon.co.uk (Steve) Subject: FOR SALE - Pegasus Senior Accounting Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 20:55:08 +0000 Message-Id: <587641686wnr@iniquus.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: Never installed or used. Pegasus Senior Accounting Software. Base Module with Sales Ledger,Nominal Ledger, Purchase Ledger and Invoicing Modules. About 3 1/2 years old. 75 ukp or best offer. Please phone 01444-414080 office hours, ask for Veroinca Gibbs. Please don't e-mail, I'm posting for a friend. -- Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:06:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15247; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:06:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18156; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:03:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18150; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:03:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12n-0003C2C; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: apc@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Andrew Corbett") Subject: Re: UK> N. Woolwich line Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 21:35:09 GMT Status: O X-Status: 08's official maximum speed is 20mph 09's official maximum speed is 27mph Andy Corbett Network Interest Circle + H&SUPS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:07:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15335; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:07:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18086; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:01:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18068; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:01:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12B-0003A5C; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Graham@fcltd.demon.co.uk (Graham Parsons) Subject: Personnel Officer Position Wanted Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 21:16:18 +0000 Message-Id: <641158837wnr@fcltd.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: My girlfriend, who is currently working as a personnel officer for a major retail company, is looking for a new position in order to further her career. If anyone out there (or their company) is currently recruiting personnel officers, could you please email me. Thanx in advance, -- Graham Parsons Principal Consultant Forest Consulting Limited From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:07:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15363; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:07:58 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18052; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:00:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18046; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:00:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf123-00039jC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vx@teleport.com (V-X) Subject: Re: Who is this Newt guy anyways? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:11:29 +1000 Message-Id: References: <1995Feb1.113450.1@wkuvx2.wku.edu> <791797121.2197snx@thwap.ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca> <1995Feb8.111545.1@wkuvx2.wku.edu> <3hcdlp$4om@knot.queensu.ca> <3htnno$8pq@knot.queensu.ca> Status: O X-Status: In article <3htnno$8pq@knot.queensu.ca> 3mpa@qlink.queensu.ca (Marco Anglesio) writes: >No, I didn't go. I turned them down. I'm very happy - more happy - here >at Queen's. So there. You don't have to get pissy. I was just asking... V-X can draw like nobody's business. Resume and examples awailable at http://www.teleport.com/~vx Home of the Unofficial WWW/FTP Jack Chick Archive! Canter Scientology Siegel Week 1 0 Down 150 to go... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:08:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15385; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:08:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19146; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:03:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19140; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:03:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12T-0003B4C; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgregor@mcs.dundee.ac.uk (John Gregor) Subject: Re: Cannabis Date: 9 Feb 1995 21:16:35 GMT Message-Id: <3he0nj$sic@dux.dundee.ac.uk> References: <3hdmtm$ol@columbia.acc.brad.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: AJ BURNETT wrote: : Why is Cannabis illegal, answers on an email to this address. -- Because Cannabis seems to compel you to followup to your own post 5 times:) Seriously, though, I always thought it was something to do with the government not getting any tax off it. That and the fact that the ignorant still consider it some sort of moral nasty. And we all know what position the ignorant hold in this country... John. (hoping bad spelling doesnt mean he's ignorant:)) _______________________________________________________________________________ John Gregor (formerly Jen) None of the above should be taken Comp. Sci. Dundee University. seriously. Otherwise I'm in trouble. email - jgregor@mcs.dundee.ac.uk "Ad Nausium" -------------------------------- ------------------------------------- "Believe me when I tell you we know who you are - information violation Just do as I say, dont question, dont make waves - information violation" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:08:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15393; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:08:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19092; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:02:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19086; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:02:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12i-0003BsC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joshs@pacifier.com (Josh Swickard) Subject: Re: MORBID ANGEL - FYI Date: 16 Feb 1995 01:33:34 GMT Message-Id: <3hua1e$418@news.pacifier.com> References: <3hojde$5tk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: Gacey doth spake: : The new Morbid Angel record is called Domination YES!!!!!!!!! The theory proves correct!!!!! It starts with a D!!!! BTW, does any one know when it is supposed to come out, what it's going to be like (more like BATS, or like Altars). Oh, I can't wait. *ANXIOUSLY* awaiting the new Morbid Angel album ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "The Poison that destroys the weaker nature strengthens the stronger - and he doesn't call it poison, either." -- Nietzche ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:08:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15425; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:08:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18994; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:00:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18988; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:00:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf120-00039aC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: user@icg-inc.com (icg marketing client) Subject: >>>> THINKPAD 355CS - $1500 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 19:48:14 -0400 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I have a Thinkpad 355CS forsale. NEW IN THE BOX 486-33sx, 170MB Harddrive, 9.5 Dual scan color, 4MB RAM 3.5 1.44 removable floppy, Fax modem installed, PCMCIA 2-II or 1-III Trackpoint II pointing device, Serial, paralell etc. DOS 6.2 installed, windows 3.21 installed, Works for Windows installed Fax works installed. Bought for $1900 I am willing to sell for 1500.00 or BEST OFFER I will take payment by VISA or Mastercard, or prepaid. Please e-mail me with contact information if interested. guest@icg-inc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:08:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15435; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:08:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19130; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:03:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19122; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:03:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12P-0003AuC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kilgore@acad.stedwards.edu (Deborah Kilgore) Subject: Re: Stop Taxpayer Funding of PBS/NPR! Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 19:28:34 Message-Id: References: <3h977i$2h8@vern.bga.com> <3hb057$rfr@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3hd5vq$m0p@giga.bga.com> <3hdic0$p77@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> <3htidr$5a4@ivy.bga.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3htidr$5a4@ivy.bga.com> jgaer@bgaibm.com (Jeff Gaer) writes: >|> cuz oprah and melrose place do not signify advanced intelligence. >but Barney does? Oprah and Melrose place are reflective of >our society at large though. I would like the GOOD stuff to get in there, too. -deb (and yer darn right i feel superior to those cartoon characters on talk show tv) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:08:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15469; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:08:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18166; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:03:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18160; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:03:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12q-0003CCC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orlo@teleport.com (Orlo) Subject: The Bear Essential Magazine Open House Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:28:04 -0800 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Open House The Bear Essential Magazine Wednesday, February 22nd, 6-8:30 p.m. Orlo headquarters: 2516 NW 29th (between and Industrial) Nationally acclaimed and collaboratively produced, The Bear Essential Magazine opens its doors to persons interested in dynamic environmental publishing. As such, all writers, visual artists, graphic designers, editors and others sharing a concern for the environment are invited to attend the magazine's open house meeting set for Wednesday, February 22, from 6-8:30 p.m.. A general introduction to the magazine will be followed by an open discussion of upcoming issues. Meeting agenda: 6-6:30 p.m. Introduction to The Bear Essential, 6:30-7:30 p.m. Discussion of issue #5 and future issues, 7:30-8:30 p.m. Refreshment hour. The Bear Essential is published semiannually by Orlo, a nonprofit organization exploring environmental issues through the creative arts. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:08:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15482; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:08:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18108; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:01:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18102; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:01:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12D-0003AGC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vx@teleport.com (V-X) Subject: Re: If I were you, I'd kill myself Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 17:13:31 +1000 Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: In article lathrop@primenet.com (Douglas Lathrop) writes: >Finally - once I was inside the van and could shut it fast if he started to >approach me - I asked him, "Can I help you with something?" >All he said by way of reply was, "If I was you, I think I'd kill myself." Ahem. (This is the first and last time you will ever hear me say this.) Fuck... V-X can draw like nobody's business. Resume and examples awailable at http://www.teleport.com/~vx Home of the Unofficial WWW/FTP Jack Chick Archive! Canter Scientology Siegel Week 1 0 Down 150 to go... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:08:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15512; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:08:50 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18138; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:02:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18132; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:02:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12K-0003AaC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgregor@mcs.dundee.ac.uk (John Gregor) Subject: Re: Vaseline? Date: 9 Feb 1995 21:08:02 GMT Message-Id: <3he07i$sic@dux.dundee.ac.uk> References: <792343754snz@corixia.demon.co.uk> <792355608snz@park78.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: : The one thing that constantly surprises me is how you maintain your : beliefs concerning sig-lengths. And I'm not criticising you, but : instead offering a little praise and admiration. I, on the other hand, am criticising him. How people can be bothered to be bothered about such petty trivia is completely beyond me. You, Sir, are akin to the type of people who complain if a garden fence is an inch too high, or or someone is keeping a dog a size too big. Why not go set up a residents committee and leave us to discuss vaseline in peace? John. _______________________________________________________________________________ John Gregor (formerly Jen) None of the above should be taken Comp. Sci. Dundee University. seriously. Otherwise I'm in trouble. email - jgregor@mcs.dundee.ac.uk "Ad Nausium" -------------------------------- ------------------------------------- "Believe me when I tell you we know who you are - information violation Just do as I say, dont question, dont make waves - information violation" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:08:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15520; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:08:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18182; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:03:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18170; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:03:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12t-0003CMC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgaer@bga.com (Jeff Gaer) Subject: Re: YES... Texas does need hate crime legislation.... Date: 15 Feb 1995 19:12:21 -0600 Message-Id: <3hu8pl$dh0@lia.bga.com> References: <3gtnpd$dff@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> <86454F98AFE@annwfn.com> <3hpkkg$5bm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> Status: O X-Status: In article <3hpkkg$5bm@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU>, rmj@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Robert Johnston) writes: |> In article <86454F98AFE@annwfn.com>, Fred McCall wrote: |> :In <3gtnpd$dff@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> kevinw@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM Kevin White writes: |> : |> The punishment is less de facto, not de jure. This has been explained many |> times. Try listening for once. He has, now can you explain why if an act is already illegal in LAW ( de jure) but not in fact, creating an additional law is going to change the fact? If the problem is De Facto, doesn't the remedy need to be also? Otherwise you are left with empty symbolism. |> You support the 'former' segregation of schools and public facilities |> that was rampant in this country? You support busing innocent children all over the place and into hostile environments to achieve a statistical balance? Hell with the kids right? Sorry Wrong+Wrong != Right. |> Took special laws to start doing something about that. It takes laws to do |> just about anything. No it didn't, it took the supreme court enforcing the existing laws, the 14th ammendment in particular. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:09:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15562; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:09:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18967; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:59:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18961; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:59:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf11y-00039PC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve@iniquus.demon.co.uk (Steve) Subject: FOR SALE - 386sx25 Notebook Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 20:55:14 +0000 Message-Id: <78490127wnr@iniquus.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: Phoenix Notebook PC (A4 size) (same model as Viglen Notebook) 386sx25 2Mb Ram 60Mb HD 1.44Mb 3.5" FD 32 grey scale backlit Mono VGA screen Can use external keyboard and colour VGA monitor if required (not supplied!) Complete with mains unit/charger, mouse and carry case. 395ukp Phone 01444-414080 office hours and ask for Veronica Gibbs. Please don't e-mail - I'm posting this for a friend. -- Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:09:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15564; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:09:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18192; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:04:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18186; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:04:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12x-0003CXC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jgaer@bga.com (Jeff Gaer) Subject: Re: Dick Army Fag Comment typical Republican rhetoric!!!! Date: 15 Feb 1995 19:20:11 -0600 Message-Id: <3hu98b$do4@lia.bga.com> References: <3ge1ju$5on@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> <28JAN199517345063@rigel.tamu.edu> <3gins9$bvu@fohnix.metronet.com> <3heesi$25l@edwin.bga.com> ,<3hjf8r$l4b@giga.bga.com> <3hrr28$oiu@golem.wcc.govt.nz> Status: O X-Status: In article <3hrr28$oiu@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, quirke_a@ix.wcc.govt.nz writes: |> jgaer@bga.com (Jeffrey Gaer) writes: |> |> >Perhaps you have forgotten that not all to long ago homosexuality was |> >treated as an 'illness'. WHat makes sexual behavior an 'illness'? (other |> >then a cultural view). Even masturbation was thought by some to be |> >a 'sick' behavior. |> |> I point out that homosexuality and masturbation involve willing adults |> only. Necrophilia involves defiling a corpse, something the former tenant |> and their surviving family presumably would object to, Not necessarily, once again the question was why should the DESIRE to do this be viewed as an illness, not why should it be illegal. |> bestiality is a |> potential violation of animal rights, and rape and pedophilia a violation |> of human rights. |> |> IMHO, bestiality not involving animal abuse should not be a crime, And it is no more an illness then homosexuality. Or most heterosexual behaviors for that matter. |> disgusting as it may be personally. As I point out some people will raise that objection about ANY sexual behavior. |> Continued bestiality as a pattern may |> be a psychological problem, the person needing help to better relate to |> human beings as sexual partners, but I am loathe to make this a law. But are you equally loathe to consider it an illness? My question was why is it 'a mental illness' and not other forms of sexuality. Should employers be required to hire people who regulary PRACTICE beastility? Should you be required to rent to animal 'lovers'. necrophiles? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:09:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15595; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:09:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19154; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:04:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19148; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:04:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12V-0003BEC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: paul@edgewood.portland.or.us (Paul Bingman) Subject: Re: A new newsgroup: pdx.music ? Date: 16 Feb 1995 01:32:08 GMT Message-Id: <3hu9uo$b92@news0.rain.rg.net> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Seth Arnold wrote: >Hello folks... please don't flame me like last time I suggested a new >newsgroup. :-) > >I have noticed a lot of talk about local-area music, and concerts, >etc... would creation of a pdx.music newsgroup be smart? I'm in favor of it, and also a pdx.arts. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Paul Bingman -- Edgewood Engineering -- paul@edgewood.portland.or.us Custom software & firmware solutions http://edgewood.portland.or.us Voice +1 503 222 3846 **************************** FAX +1 503 223 3071 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:10:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15641; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:10:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18216; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:04:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18210; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:04:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf130-0003ChC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: apc@cix.compulink.co.uk ("Andrew Corbett") Subject: Re: 59 vs 60? Message-Id: References: <3ha2vl$4r2@macondo.dmu.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 9 Feb 1995 21:35:11 GMT Status: O X-Status: According to those who know (i.e. the drivers) the 59s are *far* superior Andy Corbett Network Interest Circle + H&SUPS From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:10:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15662; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:10:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19166; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:04:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19160; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:04:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf12Y-0003BOC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kilgore@acad.stedwards.edu (Deborah Kilgore) Subject: Re: YES... Texas does need hate crime legislation.... Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 19:30:39 Message-Id: References: <3gtnpd$dff@Starbase.NeoSoft.COM> <86434C865D2@annwfn.com> <3hpko4$5e0@senator-bedfellow.MIT.EDU> <1995Feb14.113142.19868@montagar> Status: O X-Status: In article rdbeasle@dal.mobil.com (Roy Beasley) writes: >I think we need >something a little more reliable than just getting everybody out to vote. polygraph tests. just kidding. - deb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:11:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15715; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:11:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18957; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:59:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18951; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:59:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf11v-00039GC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Warren_R._Volz@capmac.org (Warren R. Volz) Message-Id: <203227134.50976128@capmac.capmac.org> Date: 15 Feb 1995 23:35:47 GMT Subject: Re: Low cost calls To/From Europe Status: O X-Status: Please quit posting Ad's in the austin.forsale section. I mean this is for merchandise not commercial advetising. It gets annoying. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:14:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15841; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:14:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18261; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:06:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tactri.hinet.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18255; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:06:21 -0800 Received: by tactri.hinet.net (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA11691; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 16:05:43 +0800 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:49:41 +0800 (EAT) From: Scott YU X-Sender: scott@s847 To: Pine Developers Subject: Bug (ID 778JD): abort by pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="703616112-1903590565-792917381=:10347" Resent-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 16:05:17 +0800 (EAT) Resent-From: Scott YU Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: --703616112-1903590565-792917381=:10347 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir, I worked in the " Taiwan Agricultural Chem & Toxic Research Institute "(TACTRI) , and got pine-3.91 to use. Now I run pine , and get bug in pine detected : "Receiverd abort signal" due to using too many lists in To: fields , and totally about 70 users to be mailed . Can you please help me how to resolve it ? Sincerely Yours, Scott YU --703616112-1903590565-792917381=:10347 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = scott, full = home = /users/scott home_dir= /users/scott hostname= s847 localdom= s847 userdom= tactri.hinet.net maildom= tactri.hinet.net cur_cntxt= Mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= inbox msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=rev-Date inbox is mail_stream term type=vt220, ttyname=/dev/ttypa, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Scott YU user-id : scott user-domain : tactri.hinet.net nntp-server : news inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : Mail/[] news-collections : *{news/nntp}[] default-fcc : OUTBOX postponed-folder : pm mail-directory : Mail signature-file : .signature global-address-book : /usr/local/lib/pine/addressbook address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : enable-tab-completion : quit-without-confirm : disable-update-cmd : enable-alternate-editor-cmd=$EDITOR : signature-at-bottom : old-growth : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders saved-msg-name-rule : by-from fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Date addrbook-sort-rule : nickname character-set : ISO-8859-1 image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : No printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.2 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : yes header-in-reply : no feature-level : old-growth old-style-reply : yes save-by-sender : yes ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/users/scott/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Scott YU feature-list : signature-at-bottom : old-growth : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders saved-msg-name-rule : by-from sort-key : Date/Reverse use-only-domain-name : No printer : attached-to-ansi last-time-prune-ques : 95.2 last-version-used : 3.91 save-by-sender : yes ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine/pine.conf) ======= user-domain : tactri.hinet.net nntp-server : news inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : OUTBOX postponed-folder : pm mail-directory : Mail signature-file : .signature global-address-book : /usr/local/lib/pine/addressbook address-book : .addressbook feature-list : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : enable-tab-completion : quit-without-confirm : disable-update-cmd : enable-alternate-editor-cmd=$EDITOR saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : date/reverse addrbook-sort-rule : nickname character-set : ISO-8859-1 image-viewer : xv use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : yes header-in-reply : no feature-level : old-growth old-style-reply : yes save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd expanded-view-of-addressbooks expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --703616112-1903590565-792917381=:10347-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 00:20:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15935; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:20:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19206; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:05:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19200; Thu, 16 Feb 95 00:05:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf14b-0003HSC; Wed, 15 Feb 95 23:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: newsbytes@clarinet.com (NB-TOR) Subject: Unisys Sets Up New Software Company 02/15/95 Date: 15 Feb 95 21:54:12 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: BLUE BELL, PENNSYLVANIA, U.S.A., 1995 FEB 15 (NB) -- Unisys Corp. (NYSE:UIS) has bought a European software firm and will build around it a new software subsidiary to be called USoft. Unisys has acquired TopSystems International, a European firm known for object-oriented and repository-based application development tools for distributed computing. USoft starts life with about 125 former TopSystems employees in Europe and a staff of about 50 in North America, only about 15 of whom came from Unisys, said Michael Seashols, president of USoft. "We are aggressively expanding the North American operation," Seashols told Newsbytes. USoft expects to have a worldwide staff of about 300 by the end of this year, he said, and most of the growth between now and then will be in North America. Seashols said Unisys' existing software business, which is worth about $700 million per year, will remain part of the parent company. With USoft, "we're going after a little different market space," he said. The new business is to focus on development tools for what Seashols called "server/client computing." He explained that he reverses the usual order of the words to emphasize the fact that USoft's philosophy will center on the server. Most client/server systems development up to now has concentrated on the desktop interface, Seashols argued, and while this works for smaller systems it does not work as well for large, enterprise-wide systems supporting 50 or more clients. USoft's approach will be to view the central server functions as most important, with what appears on client screens as a by-product of that. USoft is going after a market that is worth several billion dollars, Seashols said, but one where there is currently no dominant player. Major database software vendors, developers of object-oriented development tools, and others are approaching this market from different angles, he said. "We've got a market opportunity to solidify a very strong company," he said. USoft, based in Brisbane, California, also will offer consulting, education, and support services related to "server/client" computing. (Grant Buckler/19950215/Press Contact: Oliver Picher, Unisys, 215-986-5367; Michael Seashols, USoft, 415-875-3301; Public Contact: USoft, 800-FOR-USOFT) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 07:16:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27918; Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:16:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24344; Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:06:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24338; Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:06:43 -0800 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA27925 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 16 Feb 1995 10:06:42 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:06:41 EST From: Joe Brennan Subject: Re: POP client??? In-Reply-To: Your message of Thu, 16 Feb 1995 10:31:45 -0800 (GMT) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: > I don't believe that IMAP puts much more, if any, strain on your > system resources than POP. I don't know where you got the impression > that "server machine is more powerful" in the case of IMAP and not also > in the case of POP. In my previous message, my brain slipped and I typed CPU where I meant memory. Sorry about that. IMAP holds INBOX in memory on the server throughout the time that the client (pine) runs, while POP just sends the spool contents out to the client. This means the load on the server end is a lot higher when a couple of hundred people run an IMAP client than a POP client. Note that we were using the mbox driver with IMAP, so what POP does is similar in effect, that is, new mail gets appended to mbox as the user runs pine. Users of PC-based clients (PCPine, Mailstrom) connecting IMAP to our mail server see their mbox as INBOX. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 08:29:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01010; Thu, 16 Feb 95 08:29:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26539; Thu, 16 Feb 95 08:17:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from research1.bryant.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26533; Thu, 16 Feb 95 08:16:56 -0800 Received: by research1.bryant.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA18757; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 11:16:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 11:16:29 -0500 (EST) From: "W. Brett McKenzie" To: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: MAC Printing - ANSI Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am getting more faculty requests about printing from PINE while at home. How do I get UW modified Kermit for the MAC? It seems that is the only 'certified' program. I doubt users will want to have to purchase VersaTerm Pro on top of what they are already using. Some use White Knight, some use Claris. Best, B. W. Brett McKenzie Info Tech Dept Bryant College, Smithfield RI 02917 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 09:43:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05542; Thu, 16 Feb 95 09:43:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28563; Thu, 16 Feb 95 09:34:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from arthur.cs.purdue.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28557; Thu, 16 Feb 95 09:34:23 -0800 Received: from lab19.cs.purdue.edu (root@lab19.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.11.119]) by arthur.cs.purdue.edu (8.6.4/PURDUE_CS-1.3) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 12:34:21 -0500 Received: from lab19.cs.purdue.edu (simmonmt@lab19.cs.purdue.edu [128.10.11.119]) by lab19.cs.purdue.edu (8.6.4/PURDUE_CS-1.3) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 12:34:20 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 12:34:18 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Simmons To: Pine Mailing List Subject: Please remove Pine<-->UseNet gateway Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can we remove the pine-info <-> comp.mail.pine gateway? This is the second time that we've gotten dumped on by that gateway. Matt Simmons -- Purdue University -- West Hell, Indiana Lab Assistant - Purdue Ski Team - Purdue Ski Club - Lambda Chi Alpha simmon04@cc.purdue.edu, simmonmt@cs.purdue.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:11:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07034; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:11:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28455; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:03:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28449; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:03:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf3Jb-00038MC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 02:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pyld@oak.grove.iup.edu (Matt Schnierle) Subject: How to:Newsreader Killfile? Date: 16 Feb 1995 00:39:04 GMT Message-Id: <3hu6r8$dnl@jake.esu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello all, I'm new to both UNIX and Pine and cannot figure out how to set up a "kill" file type setup in Pine. Specifically, I would like to only see articles of a particular subject in a particular newsgroup. How might I set this up? Any advice, suggestions, flames, whatever will be appreciated. Thanks. --Matt (Thanks, IUP for running VMS, and ruining my life) Schnierle Matt Schnierle | "It could not be one man's PYLD@oak.grove.iup.edu | dream, if it were not WWW- http://www.iup.edu/~pyld/ | already another man's Finger for public PGP key | possesion." --Unknown From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:11:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07067; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:11:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28447; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:03:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28441; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:03:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf3FT-00038LC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 02:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: farzy@farzy.via.ecp.fr (Farzad FARID) Subject: Re: 132 colomns Date: 16 Feb 1995 09:14:22 GMT Message-Id: <3hv51e$9g@piston.ecp.fr> References: Status: O X-Status: SI-Johanne Duhaime (duhaimj%terre@terre.IRCM.UMontreal.CA) wrote: : Bonjour : Is it possible to work with 132 colomns displayed on the screen with : pico? : Thank you for your help. I use pine/pico on a 132x60 screen and it works fine. When I'm using it as the pine editor it automatically wraps at column 72 or something, whereas when used as a regular editor I can use the whole width of the screen, so it's perfect. -- * Farzad FARID faridf6@cti.ecp.fr Ecole Centrale Paris * "The Army is a place where you get up early in the morning to be yelled at by people with short haircuts and tiny brains." -- Dave Barry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:13:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07122; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:13:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28467; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28461; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf4XT-00038YC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 03:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kevin@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Kevin Flanagan) Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: 16 Feb 1995 02:36:42 GMT Message-Id: <3hudod$8of@nic.iii.net> References: <3hq84f$esd@nic.iii.net> <3hqcar$5qc@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> Status: O X-Status: chris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE wrote: : I've done it by inserting/changing one line in my .pinerc file: : incoming-folders=POPMail {mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu/pop3} : however, i've had some serious problems when using pine as a popmail client : over a short time period (one week). I've one user who always get's the : following message right after connecting to the popserver (this print's after : it lists some of the headers): : Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". I set this up too, and get the same error..... ;'( I'm using the Linux version and would like to get mail there too. Thanks, Kevin From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:14:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07191; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:14:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29349; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:03:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29343; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:03:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf3hw-00038QC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 02:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: 132 colomns Date: 16 Feb 95 01:17:53 GMT Message-Id: References: <1995Feb14.010030.10932@math.utah.edu> Status: O X-Status: calfeld@ceslab03.math.utah.edu (Chris Alfeld) writes: >: Is it possible to work with 132 colomns displayed on the screen with >Sure, with GNU stty the command to run before pico is: >stty cols 132 >On some systems >setenv COLS 132 >might help. I believe the command on standard stty is: >stty co# 132 If you do this, for the sanity of those who share comm channels with you, please make sure your mail and postings still are <72 chars wide. >-- >-Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) > Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:15:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07324; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:15:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28539; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28533; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf8Cs-00038sC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sean@cortex.ama.ttuhsc.edu (Sean Dougherty) Subject: PINE ON MACS -- Anyone made the port? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 05:48:08 GMT Status: O X-Status: We have pine on unix boxes, PCs, Vaxes--now if i could get it for the Macs I would be set. Any ideas? thanks sean From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:16:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07345; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:16:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28549; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28541; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf8J7-00038uC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Bug (ID WZ5DY): Port specification not honored in folder description Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 22:48:21 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: This is a known bug in collection expansion in Pine 3.91. Pine fails to build a full mailbox expanded name from the collection with the port specification. The c-client library (Pine's low-level code) does, in fact, implement *{host2:11919/nntp}comp.foo.bar, as a test with the G command will demonstrate. -- Mark -- On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Penio Penev wrote: > I have the pollowing lines in my .pinerc > > news-collections=News *{host1/nntp}[], > More news *{host2:11919/nntp}[] > > host1 is my primary server, and there is a server on host2:11919 for > experimental purpouses. > > When I try to expan the folder in the folder list screen, I get the > complain, that host2,119 rejects connection. That is true -- nobody is > listening to 119. But why is pine going to 119 at all? It should try to > connect to 11919 instead. > > I know why -- most probably it was not envisioned, and thus -- not > implemented. Implementation of this feature could have potentially many uses. > Mailing list archives and news groups archives can be maintained and served > by NNTP and IMAP, besides gopher and WAIS. Pine is a fine front end for > message-based archive searching, and its potential uses as such should be > encouraged. > > Along these lines, if pine is used to connect to a large archive 10s of Ks > of messages, it is better _not_ to read all headers before giving control > to the user to place their selection. > > -- > Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:16:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07353; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:16:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29523; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:06:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29517; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:06:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfAIi-000398C; Thu, 16 Feb 95 09:47 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: henrik@ida.his.se (Henrik Nordstrom) Subject: PINE 3.91 and MH folders Date: 16 Feb 1995 17:02:20 GMT Message-Id: <3i00es$fi@mhost.ida.his.se> Status: O X-Status: I am configuring pine at our site, and have some problems with MH folders. 1. pine can't create new folders 2. pine refuses to list my inbox mh folder I have found two ways arounds on this a. Name the inbox folder #mh/inbox[] This have one large problem: How do I do a inc from pine??? b. Use goto to open #mh/inbox[] 3. It lacks usable support for large MH folder trees. ie folders with folders with folders... We have to support MH folders, as pine is going to be used as text based email reader, and exmh as X11 based reader, and exmh works with mh folders.... (ie, exmh is our primary mail reader) Henrik Nordstrom Dept. of Computer Science University of Skovde Sweden From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:16:42 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07402; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:16:42 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28503; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28497; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf7dX-00038nC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 06:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sholstea@gpu3.srv.ualberta.ca (Steve Holstead) Subject: Re: Number of lines displayed in PINE Date: 15 Feb 1995 22:35:58 GMT Message-Id: <3htvke$a9o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> References: <3ht48e$cn8@earth.alpha.net> <3htpeb$8kb@cs1.bradley.edu> Status: O X-Status: Tony Bailey (mojo@cs1.bradley.edu) wrote: : Scott Jentsch (sjentsch@earth.execpc.com) wrote: : : Is PINE capable of displaying more than 25 lines at once? I have my : : terminal set up for 46 lines via SETENV LINES '46', which works for : : everything except PINE and the PICO editor. : if you do a : % stty rows 46 : It'll do it....that works for me. That is only if the source has been configured to allow a MAXLINES above that. : -- -- ______________________________________________________________________________ Steve Holstead University of Alberta Steve.Holstead@ualberta.ca Computer and Network Services Tel.: (403) 492-4854 System Software Group Fax.: (403) 492-1729 #154 General Services Building Edmonton, Alberta T6G-2H1 C A N A D A From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:16:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07415; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:16:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29503; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:06:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29494; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:06:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf93Z-000394C; Thu, 16 Feb 95 08:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Penio Penev Subject: Bug (ID WZ5DY): Port specification not honored in folder description Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2125129877-1655667606-792864822=:8322" Message-Id: Content-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 16:13:42 GMT Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2125129877-1655667606-792864822=:8322 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I have the pollowing lines in my .pinerc news-collections=News *{host1/nntp}[], More news *{host2:11919/nntp}[] host1 is my primary server, and there is a server on host2:11919 for experimental purpouses. When I try to expan the folder in the folder list screen, I get the complain, that host2,119 rejects connection. That is true -- nobody is listening to 119. But why is pine going to 119 at all? It should try to connect to 11919 instead. I know why -- most probably it was not envisioned, and thus -- not implemented. Implementation of this feature could have potentially many uses. Mailing list archives and news groups archives can be maintained and served by NNTP and IMAP, besides gopher and WAIS. Pine is a fine front end for message-based archive searching, and its potential uses as such should be encouraged. Along these lines, if pine is used to connect to a large archive 10s of Ks of messages, it is better _not_ to read all headers before giving control to the user to place their selection. -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 ---2125129877-1655667606-792864822=:8322-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:16:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07425; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:16:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28521; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28510; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf7N4-00038mC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 06:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mojo@cs1.bradley.edu (Tony Bailey) Subject: Re: Number of lines displayed in PINE Date: 15 Feb 1995 14:50:19 -0600 Message-Id: <3htpeb$8kb@cs1.bradley.edu> References: <3ht48e$cn8@earth.alpha.net> Status: O X-Status: Scott Jentsch (sjentsch@earth.execpc.com) wrote: : Is PINE capable of displaying more than 25 lines at once? I have my : terminal set up for 46 lines via SETENV LINES '46', which works for : everything except PINE and the PICO editor. if you do a % stty rows 46 It'll do it....that works for me. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:16:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07449; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:16:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29425; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29419; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf8CD-00038rC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pettit@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Elsie Pettit ) Subject: Help on saving to a folder Date: 16 Feb 1995 15:07:21 GMT Message-Id: <3hvpn9$d7c@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: When you want to save more than one, say, several messages to a folder, is there a way of "batching" them and sending them all at once into the created folder? It's kind of time-consuming to do it a message at a time! TIA, Elsie Pettit -- Elsie Pettit pettit@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu "The true miracle is not walking on water or walking on air, but simply walking on the earth." --Tich Nhat Hanh From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:17:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07497; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:17:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28531; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28525; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf85I-00038qC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 22:31:17 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 15 Feb 1995, Joe Brennan wrote: > We're getting pine to run POP because we want to distribute the CPU > load over 8 login hosts in our unix cluster instead of running > hundreds of IMAP processes on our one mailhub. Also involved in this > choice is that we want users to keep mail in mbox and not spool, for > disk quota reasons; so a connection to mailhub and the spool is needed > solely to move new mail in, which is already a POP model. It seems to me that you're making a number of assumptions about the IMAP vs. POP models which are not necessarily true. Where are the physical bits located? On an NFS server? Have you considered the costs of having all that NFS traffic (remember, the *entire* mail file needs to be sent over the net when you use NFS). Have you considered the locking implications? If you don't use NFS, then presumably you lock your users onto a single CPU server. All you've done in that case is move the line between server and client. You haven't saved yourself anything. IMAP does not add overhead; there is nothing that IMAP does that doesn't have to be done by a mail program in routine operation. NFS, on the other hand, *does* add overhead; the bits aren't where they are needed and the transfer has much less finesse than IMAP. POP, too, adds overhead (a full-message transfer) although by itself this is much less costly than NFS access. The bottom line is that yes, a thoughtlessly-configured IMAP infrastructure is theoretically worse than POP. It is also true that POP allows you fewer opportunities to do something stupid. But I don't advocate thoughtless configurations. In terms of the CPU costs of IMAP, the computer center's IMAP servers (RS/6000s) ran out of disk I/O bandwidth (due to sendmail queue processing, not IMAP!), without the slightest hint of running out of CPU or memory (they use tenex, not mbox format; this saves lots of memory and disk access). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:17:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07536; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:17:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29340; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:03:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29331; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:03:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf3Aa-00038HC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 02:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 16:06:35 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 14 Feb 1995 chris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE wrote: > Date: 14 FEB 1995 13:48:11 GMT > From: chris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: POP client??? > > Kevin Flanagan (kevin@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE) wrote: > : I hear that PINE can be configured to be a POP client, does anyone here have > : a pointer to the document that I need to set this up? > > I've done it by inserting/changing one line in my .pinerc file: > incoming-folders=POPMail {mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu/pop3} > incoming-folders=POPMail {mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu/pop3}INBOX would be better... > however, i've had some serious problems when using pine as a popmail client > over a short time period (one week). I've one user who always get's the > following message right after connecting to the popserver (this print's after > it lists some of the headers): > Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > This may be a bug and we would like to fix it, but we need more details to be able to reproduce it... On 15 Feb 1995, Joe Brennan wrote: > Date: 15 FEB 1995 10:44:17 -0800 > From: Joe Brennan > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: POP client??? > > I think people are going to Pine for the user interface. Whether the > backend should be IMAP or POP is a separate issue. > > We're getting pine to run POP because we want to distribute the CPU > load over 8 login hosts in our unix cluster instead of running > hundreds of IMAP processes on our one mailhub. Also involved in this > choice is that we want users to keep mail in mbox and not spool, for > disk quota reasons; so a connection to mailhub and the spool is needed > solely to move new mail in, which is already a POP model. > I have not seen a situation where CPU was the critical resource on an IMAP server. Our central systems use a homegrown distributed quota system, so that is not an issue for us... > Now the University of Washington want IMAP, and we should recognize > they have no great interest in designing and testing a POP > implementation they won't use. We shouldn't expect them to write it > for us. If that's what Ed is trying to say, OK. But don't act like > IMAP answers all needs. > IMAP is perfectly capable of operating in the POP model, but Pine does not currently support that model, except by a side-effect of the mbox driver. That is why we have been very hesitant to talk about the POP drivers in Pine 3.91. > What does the mail system at Washington look like, anyway? Just out > of curiosity. What is the imap host and how many users is it > handling? Ours is a Sparc 20 and we have 20,000 accounts with over > 40,000 messages delivered daily... can't do much imap on that guy. > One of our central clusters includes about 24 login servers and 12 IMAP servers (AIX boxes, I'm not sure what model) to support around 45,000 accounts. There are also a significant number of PC-Pine users connecting to those IMAP servers, but I don't have any numbers. The IMAP servers are configured for Tenex folders and have no problem with CPU load. --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:18:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07579; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:18:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29379; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29373; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf5rt-00038eC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 05:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfiresto@interserv.com Subject: SAVE TAX DOLLARS!!! 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If you pay U.S. taxes and use a portion of your home for business purposes, you need this write-up! E-mail for further information. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:18:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07600; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:18:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29491; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:06:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29485; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:06:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf8Ux-00038xC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: 'titles' for quoting replies. Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 11:34:27 +0000 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 14 Feb 1995, Shane DeRidder wrote: > > Is there a way to change the way the 'title' of a quoted reply looks like? > > Maybe I'm not asking this correctly. :) What I mean, is the message > that appears before the area of text to which you are replying like: > > "On (time/date), (user's name) wrote:" > Not with the present level of pine. I suggested it to development and I believe its now on the "nice things to do sometime" list. David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Geco-Prakla, Schlumberger House, Buckingham Gate, Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326 Happiness is a binary state. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:19:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07641; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:19:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29445; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29439; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf8NL-00038wC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chris@westnet.westnet.com (Christopher X. Candreva) Subject: ispel from Pine Date: 16 Feb 1995 10:17:24 -0500 Message-Id: <3hvqa4$psb@westnet.westnet.com> Status: O X-Status: This has to be a faq, but I can't find it anywhere. Is anyone using ispell as a spell checker from Pine? I tried using the SPELL environment variable, but it didn't work, becayse Pine expects to get back a list of mispelled words, not to hve an external program do all the work. Is there a way to use ispell? -Chris -- ========================================================== Chris Candreva -- chris@westnet.com -- (914) 967-7816 WestNet Internet Services of Westchester From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:19:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07678; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:19:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29371; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:03:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29365; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:03:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf4Ey-00038XC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 03:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Number of lines displayed in PINE Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 16:15:17 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3ht48e$cn8@earth.alpha.net> <3htpeb$8kb@cs1.bradley.edu> <3htvke$a9o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3htvke$a9o@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> Status: O X-Status: On 15 Feb 1995, Steve Holstead wrote: > Date: 15 FEB 1995 22:35:58 GMT > From: Steve Holstead > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: Number of lines displayed in PINE > > Tony Bailey (mojo@cs1.bradley.edu) wrote: > : Scott Jentsch (sjentsch@earth.execpc.com) wrote: > : : Is PINE capable of displaying more than 25 lines at once? I have my > : : terminal set up for 46 lines via SETENV LINES '46', which works for > : : everything except PINE and the PICO editor. > > : if you do a > > : % stty rows 46 > > : It'll do it....that works for me. > > > That is only if the source has been configured to allow a MAXLINES above > that. > The default limits in Pine are 200 rows and 170 columns, except in Windows where the limits are 150 rows and 250 columns... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:20:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07707; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:20:04 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29531; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:06:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29525; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:06:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfAMb-000399C; Thu, 16 Feb 95 09:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Christian Jonsson Subject: Re: A better icon for Pine under X Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:09:07 +0100 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Ted Stern wrote: > On Tue, 14 Feb 1995 hcpatel@ucdavis.edu wrote: >=20 > > On 13 Feb 1995 15:45:22 -0800, Ted Stern profoundly wrote: > >=20 > > :> The bitmap I use is attached. It is a slightly shrunken version of = the=20 > > :> one on the Pine WWW site. > >=20 > >=20 > > What is the URL for the pine WWW site? Also, since I am new to X, I hav= e=20 > > no idea how you figured out all of the configuration you did for pine.= =20 > > Any advice you could give would be helpful. > > -- > >=20 > >=20 > > ________________________________________ > > >Hemang Patel=09hcpatel@dale.ucdavis.edu > >=20 >=20 > The WWW URL for Pine information (includes archives of=20 > pine-info/comp.mail.pine) is >=20 > =09http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/ >=20 >=20 > The bitmap you want is >=20 > =09http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.xbm >=20 >=20 > And no, I don't know how to specify what bitmap is used for the icon for > window managers other than Mwm! In particular, if anybody knows how to > set up an icon for Pine under Olwm, could you send the answer to >=20 > =09Steven Feinholz >=20 > I haven't been able to help him very much. >=20 > =09-- Ted > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D > Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, F= S-20 > stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington > http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 > =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 I have an alias for pine: alias pine 'shelltool -WG 700x800 -WI ~/pine/pine.icon -WL "Pine 3.91" -Wx medium ~/bin/pine' That's alright for me! ______________________________________________________________________ Christian J=F6nsson E-mail: cj@isy.liu.se Division of Data Transmission Telephone: (+46) 13 28 2653 Department of Electrical Engineering Telefax: (+46) 13 28 1339 Link=F6ping University SWEDEN WWW: http://merlin.isy.liu.se/user?cj/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jamtland, Jamtland, j=E4mt =E5 st=E4ndut... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:20:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07715; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:20:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29387; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29381; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf6bj-00038iC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 05:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iveysoto@pegasus.unm.edu (Daniel A Ivey-Soto) Subject: Re: Mac and PINE Date: 16 Feb 1995 03:13:37 GMT Message-Id: <3huft1$38g@lynx.unm.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: To: eric@mote.Berkeley.EDU (Eric Mockensturm) Subject: Re: Mac and PINE Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Juliet, If you use PINE 3.91 and TELNET 2.6, when you tell pine to prYnt to ansi it will send it to your local printer. This is the only combination I have found that works (but it does, and Telnet 2.6 is free on-line, although you need a SLIP or PPP connection to work it). Hope this helps, Daniel. In article you wrote: : Is the printer is attached to the Mac or the Unix machine? : On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Juliet Lim wrote: : > : > I am using a Mac as a terminal with a SLIP (INTERSlip) connection to a UNIX : > host. How do I print my e-mail while inside the PINE program? When I : > press Y (for PrYnt), the mail is printed on the screen, not on the : > attached printer as should be. : > : > Pleae reply by e-mail (if possible) to juliet@ait.ac.th : > : > Thanks for any response. : > : > Juliet : > : Eric Mockensturm : Dynamic Stability Lab : 1113 Etcheverry Hall : University of California - Berkeley : (510) 642-6371 : http://mote.berkeley.edu/~eric/eric.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:20:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07751; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:20:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29413; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29404; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf7r9-00038pC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s921666@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au (Seif Zadeh Hossein) Subject: Pine's spell checker? Date: 16 Feb 1995 06:13:24 GMT Message-Id: <3huqe4$t4j@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> Status: O X-Status: Hi there, Every time I try to spell check my mails using pine's spell checker, it nags about all the abbreviations that are present in the mails, eg. internet addresses, names and so on. Is there any way I may define a custom dictionary, to stop this nagging? Thanx in advance. -- | Hossein S. Zadeh | | | Dept of Aerospace Engineering | s921666@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au | | Royal Melb. Inst. of Tech (RMIT) | ZADEH@boomerang.aero.rmit.edu.au | | Melbourne, Australia | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:20:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07772; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:20:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28477; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28470; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf65i-00038fC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 05:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: slayer@unix.infoserve.net (Frank Sandor) Subject: Kill command Date: 15 Feb 1995 21:08:15 GMT Message-Id: <3htqfv$2i5@news.infoserve.net> Status: O X-Status: I used the kill command in a newsgroup using the * I had hoped that this would kill any present posting so I could start the next day fresh with only new postings. The problem is that now it will show that there are say 34 postings but when I enter it, all the postings are once again killed and I can't read anything. How do i get the postings back once they've been killed? Or, how do I stop it from killing all new postings? -- ****************************************************************************** "Reasonable people adapt themselves to the world. Unreasonable people attempt to adapt the world to themselves. All progress, therefore, depends on unreasonable people." ..George Bernard Shaw Slayer@unix.infoserve.net Frank Sandor From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:21:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07843; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:21:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29437; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29429; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf8Cv-00038tC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 07:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sean@cortex.ama.ttuhsc.edu (Sean Dougherty) Subject: BINHEX w/ PINE Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 05:49:19 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there a binhex option for pine? Is there a binhex for unix boxes pref sun? Thanks sean From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:21:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07864; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:21:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29397; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29391; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:04:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf7Fg-00038kC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 06:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caputo@hppade.waterloo.hp.com (David Caputo) Subject: Stretching Pine Display Date: 16 Feb 1995 13:57:22 GMT Message-Id: <3hvlk2$oi5@hppadbk.waterloo.hp.com> Status: O X-Status: Can someone please tell me how to use a longer length with pine? I have an 80 x 35 vt320 terminal window but Pine only uses about 25 lines. How can I get it to use all 35? Thank-you -- David Caputo Email: caputo@waterloo.hp.com Phone: +1-519-883-3083 Telnet: 883-3083 FAX: +1-519-886-8620 HP Panacom Division, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada EST/EDT(GMT-5) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 10:22:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07934; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:22:01 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29515; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:06:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29505; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:06:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rf9eh-000396C; Thu, 16 Feb 95 09:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: mailcap path to xv? Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 16:09:36 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1963615227-792893376=:22640" In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1963615227-792893376=:22640 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Attached is a sample... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 14 Feb 1995, Ian Russell Ollmann wrote: > Date: Tue, 14 FEB 1995 16:38:38 -0800 > From: Ian Russell Ollmann > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: mailcap path to xv? > > > > On Mon, 13 Feb 1995, David L Miller wrote: > [In response to how to tell pine/mosaic where to look for xv and mpeg.] > > > > You specify the paths to the viewers you want in the .mailcap (or > > /etc/mailcap) file... > > Does anyone have a sample .mailcap or /etc/mailcap that they can mail me > so I can look at it. 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shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09463; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:51:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00137; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:23:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00130; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:23:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfAqV-00038DC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vman@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com (J. Wagner) Subject: Saving mail to floppy? Date: 15 Feb 1995 23:24:33 -0800 Message-Id: <3huujh$6uu@kaiwan009.kaiwan.com> Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to save e-mail to floppy...preferrably in a text format that could be accessed by Wordperfect? If so how do I do it? Needless to say I'm using Pine. :) jw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 11:06:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10260; Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:06:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29922; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:54:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ts1_slip04.kn.PacBell.COM by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29916; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:54:04 -0800 Received: by jagware.bcc.com (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.0 #29.1) id ; Thu, 16 Feb 95 10:54 PST Message-Id: From: jjb@jagware.bcc.com (J.J.Bailey) Subject: Re: Please remove Pine<-->UseNet gateway To: simmonmt@cs.purdue.edu (Matt Simmons) Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 10:54:07 -0800 (PST) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Matt Simmons" at Feb 16, 95 12:34:18 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 194 Status: O X-Status: > > Can we remove the pine-info <-> comp.mail.pine gateway? This is the second > time that we've gotten dumped on by that gateway. > Seconded! -- J.J.Bailey Consultant jjb@jagware.bcc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 11:36:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11658; Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:36:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00770; Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:18:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00764; Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:18:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfBiY-00038HC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) Subject: >run away processes ! Message-Id: Date: 15 Feb 95 20:45:55 GMT Status: O X-Status: In a different group (AIX) I made a contact regarding run away processes which grab cpu (pine and kermit are the major ones). Here is some information reprinted with permission. The author was: Randolph J. Herber, herber@dcdrjh.fnal.gov, +1 708 840 2966, CD/HQ (Speaking for myself and not for US, US DOE, FNAL nor URA.) (Product, trade, or service marks herein belong to their respective owners.) The problem of run-away, CPU gobbling orphan processes is frequently caused by a program starting a process via a remote connection --- rpc, ftp, rlogin, telnet, etc. --- and then the connection is broken without properly terminating the program. IRIX had been having that problem with FTPD sessions lately. I have seen it happen with UUCP connections with many variants of the UNIX operating system until the connection is timed out by the uucico program (if it has 10 consecutive timeouts (about 10 seconds each) with failures to respond to a request to respond after each timeout). The reason for the effect of the change from ksh to tcsh has to do with whether or not the child process is placed in its own process group when it is started. There are good arguments both for giving a child process its own process group and for not giving it its own process group. I believe that ksh and tcsh have opposite opinions. The ksh parameter that controls this behavior is the `set monitor' which can be set the other way with `set +m'. The standard default for interactive kshs is `set monitor'. I was not able to determine the process group behavior of tcsh. Most kernel connection support (terminal I/O drivers, TCP/IP, streams, etc.) send a SIGHUP to the process group of the process that originally opened the connection --- the login shell most likely. If the children are given their own process group, they are protected from the SIGHUP. Many systems give immediate, repetitive returns to select(2) when there is no apparent connection left (I presume that the process would have gone away if it had received the SIGHUP) and this can easily consume an entire CPU. The problem with killing orphans is that you do not want to kill legal and legimate orphans. You would want to generate a list of program names to check or ignore. -- __________________________________________________________________ John Andrea St. Francis Xavier Univ. University Computer Services Antigonish, NS, CANADA B2G 2W5 http://www.stfx.ca/jandrea/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 11:40:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11869; Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:40:34 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02040; Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:28:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02034; Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:28:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfBoT-00038CC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 11:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfiresto@interserv.com Subject: cmsg cancel <3hugq6$7ao@moon.earthlink.net> Control: cancel <3hugq6$7ao@moon.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 12:59:10 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Cancelling spam. See explanation in news.admin.misc. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 13:07:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16482; Thu, 16 Feb 95 13:07:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03219; Thu, 16 Feb 95 12:53:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03213; Thu, 16 Feb 95 12:53:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfD8a-00038FC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 12:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "W F (Will) Sill" Subject: PRINTER A OK, PRINTER B NOT Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 09:41:32 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Wierd problem: two printers - one Epson Stylus 800, one Panasonic KX-P1124. Alternately connected to LPT1 (too cheap to buy switch - I grope around and switch the cable). SUDDENLY THE PANASONIC DOESN'T WORK FROM PINE! Both work perfectly on other programs, and 'til a few days ago both worked fine on PINE. Difference: Panasonic printer doesn't accept data quite as fast, takes longer to get file dumped to printer memory. Symptoms re Panasonic: Very short files usually print OK but anything more than a screenful hangs the machine - often in full lockup. Printer stops, "printing" message remains on screen. Keystrokes may or may not cause printeer to begin acting as though in "log to printer" mode. All this time the Epson works fine. Hardware: 486DX2 66; software Telix 3.22. Unable to find any 'switch' anywhere but I once saw something some where anout xon xoff re printer. Ideas? Thanx in advance. /^\~/\/\/^\_______ William F Sill KD3XR /^ will@epix.net | Endless Mountains Amachewer Radio Club ==================== RR6 Box 607, TUNKHANNOCK PA 18657 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 14:29:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19608; Thu, 16 Feb 95 14:29:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06381; Thu, 16 Feb 95 14:14:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06373; Thu, 16 Feb 95 14:14:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfEP1-00038FC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 14:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane) Subject: Re: How to get NOOP out of pine? Message-Id: <1995Feb16.132139.85443@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> Date: 16 Feb 95 13:21:39 CST References: Status: O X-Status: In article , root@bigbird.stark.k12.oh.us (Mail automatically resent by Bigbird) writes: > The other idea is to use DATE -- a nice sort-of no-op in INN. Unfortunately, > DATE is also absent from RFC-977. I'd rather explain to people what the > unrecognized NOOPs do than what the unrecognized DATEs do! ;-) How about using STAT with no argument. If you are not in a group, it will get an error, and if a group is selected, it will return the status of the current articles, which can't take much time. Either way, you get a one line response that doen't generate any error message on the server. -- USmail: Bob Sloane, University of Kansas Computer Center, Lawrence, KS, 66045 E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, Phone: (913) 864-0444, FAX: (913) 864-0485 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 15:56:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23616; Thu, 16 Feb 95 15:56:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07500; Thu, 16 Feb 95 15:44:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07494; Thu, 16 Feb 95 15:44:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfFoB-00038DC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 15:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mister Director Subject: Auto distribution -help Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 16:58:08 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm on a mailing list about to be kicked off our server thing, and those of us with good mail systems (like pine) have to forward all the mail now, starting April 1. Could someone explain to me how to do this? TIA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 15:58:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23786; Thu, 16 Feb 95 15:58:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07679; Thu, 16 Feb 95 15:50:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07673; Thu, 16 Feb 95 15:50:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfFwO-00038DC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 15:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calimero@lcco.u-strasbg.fr (Guy BRAND) Subject: Re: BINHEX w/ PINE Date: 16 Feb 1995 18:43:34 GMT Message-Id: <3i06cm$i6h@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Status: O X-Status: -- > Is there a binhex option for pine? What for ? Forget binhex and use full MIME encoding. It works nicely with Macs too ;-) > Is there a binhex for unix boxes pref sun? If you really can't live without BinHex, get mcvert for Unix which converts files from and to BinHex. Then you'll get your BinHex files on your Unix workstation, and you can even send these BinHexed files to Macs by pasting them into the body of your outgoing messages (don't use the Attachment feature of Pine as it uses Base64 encoding)... the BinHex UMAs (like Eudora or LeeMail) will get them properly as attached Binhexed files. Have fun ! Guy ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Guy BRAND guybrand@chimie.u-strasbg.fr From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 16:44:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26180; Thu, 16 Feb 95 16:44:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08776; Thu, 16 Feb 95 16:30:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from motgate.mot.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08770; Thu, 16 Feb 95 16:30:29 -0800 Received: from pobox.mot.com by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1 for ) id AA15531; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:30:24 -0600 Received: from po_box.cig.mot.com by pobox.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1 for ) id AA18958; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:30:22 -0600 Received: from otter.cig.mot.com (otter.cig.mot.com [136.182.254.1]) by po_box.cig.mot.com (8.6.9/SCERG-RELAY-1.11) with ESMTP id TAA29735; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 19:31:56 -0500 Received: (ellis@localhost) by otter.cig.mot.com (8.6.9/SCERG-1.11) id SAA03170; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:30:21 -0600 Message-Id: <199502170030.SAA03170@otter.cig.mot.com> To: ellis@cig.mot.com X-Loop-Mailnews: comp.mail.pine From: Ted Stern Subject: A better icon for Pine under X Date: Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:31:05 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Nntp-Posting-Host: omak.amath.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1654922522-792718265=:15124" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1654922522-792718265=:15124 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Okay, I answered my own question. I now know how to start Pine in an xterm and set what its icon should look like: I start Pine using xterm -n Pine -name Pine -title "Pine" -e /usr/local/bin/pine & ^^^^^^^^^^ this is what tells the window manager what the application is called In my .Xdefaults I have ! ! This tells the window manager the name of the bitmap to use for the icon ! -- substitute with the correct window manager name. Mwm*Pine*iconImage: /user2/stern/.xbm/pine.xbm ! ! Pine doesn't inherit any of the specific XTerm stuff, so it needs to be ! defined. ! Pine*VT100.font: -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--15-140-*-*-c-*-*-1 Pine*VT100.Geometry: 80x50+10+10 Pine*VT100.saveLines: 0 Pine*jumpScroll: off Pine*scrollBar: off #ifdef COLOR Pine*foreground: White Pine*background: DarkSlateGrey Pine*cursorColor: Red Pine*pointerColor: Blue #endif The bitmap I use is attached. It is a slightly shrunken version of the one on the Pine WWW site. The X resources for window managers are read only when the wm starts, so they won't take effect until you restart. -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ --0-1654922522-792718265=:15124 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name="pine.xbm" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: I2RlZmluZSBwaW5lX3dpZHRoIDc4DQojZGVmaW5lIHBpbmVfaGVpZ2h0IDU4 DQojZGVmaW5lIHBpbmVfeF9ob3QgLTENCiNkZWZpbmUgcGluZV95X2hvdCAt MQ0Kc3RhdGljIGNoYXIgcGluZV9iaXRzW10gPSB7DQogMHgwMCwweDAwLDB4 MDAsMHgwMCwweDgwLDB4MDEsMHgwMCwweDAwLDB4MDAsMHgwMCwweDAwLDB4 MDAsMHgwMCwweDAwLDB4ODAsDQogMHgwMSwweDAwLDB4MDAsMHgwMCwweDAw LDB4MDAsMHgwMCwweDAwLDB4MDAsMHg4MCwweDA3LDB4MDAsMHgwMCwweDAw 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From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 16:54:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26586; Thu, 16 Feb 95 16:54:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10108; Thu, 16 Feb 95 16:39:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10102; Thu, 16 Feb 95 16:39:30 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA07890 for ; Thu, 16 Feb 1995 16:39:28 -0800 Message-Id: <199502170039.QAA07890@weber.ucsd.edu> To: Pine Mailing List Reply-To: Pine Mailing List Subject: Re: Please remove Pine<-->UseNet gateway In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 16 Feb 1995 12:34:18 -0500." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <7873.792981567.1@weber.ucsd.edu> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 16:39:28 -0800 From: "Michael J. Corrigan" Status: O X-Status: > Can we remove the pine-info <-> comp.mail.pine gateway? This is the second > time that we've gotten dumped on by that gateway. > > Matt Simmons -- Purdue University -- West Hell, Indiana > Lab Assistant - Purdue Ski Team - Purdue Ski Club - Lambda Chi Alpha > simmon04@cc.purdue.edu, simmonmt@cs.purdue.edu > Here's a procmail recipe to dump everything from the gateway. BITBUCKET=/dev/null :0 *^Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu *^Received: .*rain.psg.com $BITBUCKET From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 18:50:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00929; Thu, 16 Feb 95 18:50:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11611; Thu, 16 Feb 95 18:44:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11605; Thu, 16 Feb 95 18:44:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfIft-00038HC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 18:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rlynn@phoenix.lhup.edu (Becky Davidson) Subject: postponed.... Date: 16 Feb 1995 19:48:35 GMT Message-Id: <3i0a6j$7po@jake.esu.edu> Status: O X-Status: We were logged on through a modem and using pine and the modem connection was lost. Ever since there has been a postponed message everytime we try to compose. We tried starting it up again and deleting it. no go. we tried starting it up again and sending it....again...no go...We also tried deleting the file through the ksh. once again...no go....does anybody know how to get rid of it? thanks becky From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 19:23:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01857; Thu, 16 Feb 95 19:23:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13231; Thu, 16 Feb 95 19:14:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13225; Thu, 16 Feb 95 19:14:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfJ5A-00038HC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 19:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Selcuk Ozturk Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 15:44:59 -0500 Message-Id: References: <3hq84f$esd@nic.iii.net> <3hqcar$5qc@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hqcar$5qc@bingnet1.cc.binghamton.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 14 Feb 1995 chris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE wrote: > Kevin Flanagan (kevin@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE) wrote: > : I hear that PINE can be configured to be a POP client, does anyone here have > : a pointer to the document that I need to set this up? > > I've done it by inserting/changing one line in my .pinerc file: > incoming-folders=POPMail {mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu/pop3} > > however, i've had some serious problems when using pine as a popmail client > over a short time period (one week). I've one user who always get's the > following message right after connecting to the popserver (this print's after > it lists some of the headers): > Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > I guess I found at least one of the bugs in pop3 client code. I didn't do comprehensive testing but at least I don't get the above message anymore. Following is a diff of the necessary change to the pop3.c file in c-client directory of pine distribution. pop3.oc is is the original pop3.c in the distribution. This one is for the non-ANSI pop3.c. The line numbers might be different for the ANSI one. If you find anything else I would apreciate if let me now. Selcuk *** pop3.oc Thu Feb 16 12:43:55 1995 --- pop3.c Thu Feb 16 12:45:37 1995 *************** *** 363,370 **** LOCAL->buf = (char *) fs_get ((LOCAL->buflen = MAXMESSAGESIZE) + 1); nmsgs = strtol (LOCAL->reply,NIL,10); /* create caches */ ! LOCAL->header = (char **) fs_get (i * sizeof (char *)); ! LOCAL->body = (char **) fs_get (i * sizeof (char *)); for (i = 0; i < nmsgs;) { /* initialize caches */ LOCAL->header[i] = LOCAL->body[i] = NIL; /* instantiate elt */ --- 363,370 ---- LOCAL->buf = (char *) fs_get ((LOCAL->buflen = MAXMESSAGESIZE) + 1); nmsgs = strtol (LOCAL->reply,NIL,10); /* create caches */ ! LOCAL->header = (char **) fs_get (nmsgs * sizeof (char *)); ! LOCAL->body = (char **) fs_get (nmsgs * sizeof (char *)); for (i = 0; i < nmsgs;) { /* initialize caches */ LOCAL->header[i] = LOCAL->body[i] = NIL; /* instantiate elt */ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 20:09:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03063; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:09:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12768; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:04:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12762; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:04:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfJs0-00038HC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gunther@ssi.edc.org (Gunther Anderson) Subject: Re: COMPILING PINE ON SCO UNIX Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 20:48:56 GMT Message-Id: References: <3hgo56$gue@dingo.cc.uq.oz.au> <3hqoo4$24q@anshar.shadow.net> Status: O X-Status: lkadin (lkadin@shadow.net) wrote: : I have been trying but with no luck to compile Pine on SCO. Seems I'm missing arpa/inet.h and netc [And a return key, it would seem.] You need to buy the TCP/IP Developer's Version. This is a supplement to the TCP/IP runtime (which you already own) hich contains header files and libraries and such for compiling TCP/IP programs on your SCO box. Gunther Anderson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 20:32:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03866; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:32:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13120; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:27:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13114; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:27:49 -0800 Received: from wesson.wylie.com by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06410; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:27:47 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 23:28:41 -30000 From: "Stephen R. Wylie" Subject: Re: Mountain Bike for sale [pine related?] To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 15 Feb 1995, Fazle Ramzan wrote: > Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 14:45:36 -0800 > From: Fazle Ramzan > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Mountain Bike for sale > > > I have a 20 in GT for sale I originally paid $600 pluss for it my > freshamn year in college and wound up putting it in storage at my aprents > house...it's in brand new condition...i even have the instruction manual > for it.....am asking $350 for it...if interested please email me at > fazle@u.washington.edu (all lower case) thanks. > what does this have to do with pine? where is the pine-info mailing list [since this must not be it]? steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 20:35:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03980; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:35:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14356; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:29:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14350; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:29:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfKJy-00038DC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Master of Wonder) Subject: spell checker missing Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 17:08:15 GMT Status: O X-Status: I posted once before, I got zero response. This is my second request. I'm using Linux, with PINE 3.90. There is no "spell" program. I can't seem to find one anywhere on the net. The closest I've come is "ispell", which is an interactive spell checker, which doesn't seem to work with PINE very well. Does anyone know where I can get the spell program for Linux, or how to make ispell work well with PINE??? Thanks in advance!!! - Andy P.S. Please email, I'm not sure if news is 100% reliable yet. -- My company does analysis, design, porting, troubleshooting, integration, installation, configuration, networking and porting of systems using Unix/C/X windows. Email me if your company is looking to outsource to a competent supplier of programming services that provides complete solutions. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 20:39:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04190; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:39:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13251; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:34:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13245; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:34:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfKOI-00038DC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s93sbe@csd.uu.se (Stefan Berg) Subject: How to set save-folder to sender as default Date: 16 Feb 1995 18:08:22 GMT Message-Id: <3i04am$s3o@columba.udac.uu.se> Status: O X-Status: I would like to know how I can configure pine for UNIX so that the default folder to save in always is the name of the sender of the mail I want to save. Example: I receive a mail from MrMan@nowhere.edu When I choose to save it, pine suggests: SAVE to folder [MrMan] : instead of SAVE to folder [saved-messages] : PLEASE _e-mail_ me a reply! important--^ Thanks in advance, and have fun out there! -- ------------------------------------------- Stefan Berg <+070-7561297> Computer Systems Analyst Student Computer Science Department University of Uppsala Sweden ------------------------------------------- ******************************************* It's better to burn out than to fade away! ******************************************* [Kurgan, The Highlander] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 21:09:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05170; Thu, 16 Feb 95 21:09:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14787; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:59:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14781; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:59:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfKmJ-00038MC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 20:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pej@chrh.org (Paul Jones) Subject: Re: Slow Loading on AIX Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 14:21:47 GMT References: <3htbc1$ktv@kelly.teleport.com> Status: O X-Status: In <3htbc1$ktv@kelly.teleport.com> andym@teleport.com (Andy McNiece) writes: >I seem to remember a thread in the past about slow loading of Pine on an >RS6000 with AIX. I did not have the problem then but now am having the >problem. Could anyone shed any light on this? This seems to have >occurred about the time I changed some ethernet addresses. I have experienced some sluggishness with PINE was wondering if it might be due to the size of the executable. Our executable is 3MB in size! Does anyone have a tip on shrinking this any? Thanks Paul Jones -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul E. Jones paulej@aol.com or pej@chrh.org "These are my opinions. They might not be much, but they're all mine!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 21:53:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06604; Thu, 16 Feb 95 21:53:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14343; Thu, 16 Feb 95 21:44:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14337; Thu, 16 Feb 95 21:44:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfLTN-00038KC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 21:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottt@python.CS.ORST.EDU (T. L. Scott) Subject: stopping the "Request Document" in newly installed Pine Date: 16 Feb 1995 22:52:36 GMT Message-Id: <3i0kvk$hj9@engr.orst.edu> Status: O X-Status: My group recently installed Pine on our unix machine, running NewBSD. Pine works fine, but each time any one starts the program is asks if you want the Pine Document mail to you. How does one stop this? Or tell Pine that you have seen the message once and do not need to see it again? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 22:34:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07622; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:34:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16128; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:30:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16122; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:30:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfMAi-00038MC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ashahsav@uoguelph.ca (Arash Shahsavarani) Subject: Couple of questions about PC-Pine Date: 17 Feb 1995 04:40:14 GMT Message-Id: <3i19be$dt3@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: I just managed to configure PC-Pine to get my mail from my server. My problem is that: 1)Each time I log in it asks for me to confirm my user ID and then type in my password. OK I'm lazy, how can I configure PC-Pine to do this on it's own? 2)PC-Pine reads my mail but every time I try to send an e-mail it freezes on me and I have to use ALT-CTRL-Delete, what might I have configured wrong? I'm using PC-Pine 3.91 in Windows 3.1 on a 486dx/33. Any suggestions greatly appreciated. TIA Arash -- ,-, ;' ; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~;' |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ;' '; __..;-------------' "-______ _--"`~~ Arash Shahsavarani ~~~~~~~~------- ( (@) ||||| ashahsav@uoguelph.ca ~--__ ||||| B.Sc.Marine Biology (in progress) ~~-:==== ||||| ~~~-----______\ |__________________---------- `. | \ | \ ; \_/ "We will look upward to wisdom and strength... Not seeking other desires..." - Kyokushinkai, Osu! ___________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 22:41:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07781; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:41:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15125; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:35:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15118; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:35:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfMH7-00038KC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 15:48:32 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 16 Feb 1995, Joe Brennan wrote: > Date: 16 Feb 1995 10:18:09 -0800 > From: Joe Brennan > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: POP client??? > > > I don't believe that IMAP puts much more, if any, strain on your > > system resources than POP. I don't know where you got the impression > > that "server machine is more powerful" in the case of IMAP and not also > > in the case of POP. > > In my previous message, my brain slipped and I typed CPU where I meant > memory. Sorry about that. > > IMAP holds INBOX in memory on the server throughout the time that the > client (pine) runs, while POP just sends the spool contents out to the > client. That is true for berkeley format folders, but not if you use Tenex folders as we recommend for dedicated mail servers. The Tenex driver uses much less memory and is more efficient than the berkeley driver... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 16 22:53:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08055; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:53:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16360; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:45:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16354; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:45:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfMQw-00038KC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 22:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: MAC Printing - ANSI Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 16:02:57 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: It is available at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/kermit/mac/ |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 16 Feb 1995, W. Brett McKenzie wrote: > Date: 16 Feb 1995 10:18:10 -0800 > From: W. Brett McKenzie > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: MAC Printing - ANSI > > > > I am getting more faculty requests about printing from PINE while at home. > > > How do I get UW modified Kermit for the MAC? > > It seems that is the only 'certified' program. I doubt users will want to > have to purchase VersaTerm Pro on top of what they are already using. > Some use White Knight, some use Claris. > > > > Best, B. > > > W. Brett McKenzie > Info Tech Dept > Bryant College, Smithfield RI 02917 > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 00:08:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10078; Fri, 17 Feb 95 00:08:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16045; Thu, 16 Feb 95 23:50:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16039; Thu, 16 Feb 95 23:50:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfNNc-00038FC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 23:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: iveysoto@pegasus.unm.edu (Daniel A Ivey-Soto) Subject: Re: Mac and PINE Message-Id: <1995Feb16.181601.5298@linkoping.trab.se> Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:16:01 GMT Status: O X-Status: Juliet, If you use PINE 3.91 and TELNET 2.6, when you tell pine to prYnt to ansi it will send it to your local printer. This is the only combination I have found that works (but it does, and Telnet 2.6 is free on-line, although you need a SLIP or PPP connection to work it). Hope this helps, Daniel. In article you wrote: : Is the printer is attached to the Mac or the Unix machine? : On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Juliet Lim wrote: : > : > I am using a Mac as a terminal with a SLIP (INTERSlip) connection to a UNIX : > host. How do I print my e-mail while inside the PINE program? When I : > press Y (for PrYnt), the mail is printed on the screen, not on the : > attached printer as should be. : > : > Pleae reply by e-mail (if possible) to juliet@ait.ac.th : > : > Thanks for any response. : > : > Juliet : > : Eric Mockensturm : Dynamic Stability Lab : 1113 Etcheverry Hall : University of California - Berkeley : (510) 642-6371 : http://mote.berkeley.edu/~eric/eric.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 00:15:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10227; Fri, 17 Feb 95 00:15:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17372; Thu, 16 Feb 95 23:55:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17366; Thu, 16 Feb 95 23:55:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfNVN-00038KC; Thu, 16 Feb 95 23:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: ispel from Pine Date: 16 Feb 1995 20:22:48 GMT Message-Id: <3i0c6o$rrn@news1.halcyon.com> References: <3hvqa4$psb@westnet.westnet.com> Status: O X-Status: This is discussed in the Pine FAQ "How do I use Ispell with Pine and Pico?" at: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ The plain text version (ftp address) has an updated answer to this question. Does anyone know when the hypertext version (http address) is going to be updated??? Thanks, Nancy -- /\_/\ Nancy McGough /\_/\ Vote for the humanities.misc @..@ ( o.o ) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) newsgroup! See my Web pages (----) > ~ < http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ^ < for details. ( >__< ) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 02:30:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13739; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:30:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19424; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:20:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19418; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:20:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfPlU-00038HC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:51:08 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: This bug fix is correct. I discovered it independently when re-reading the code in the light of the recent flames. -- Mark -- On Thu, 16 Feb 1995, Selcuk Ozturk wrote: > > On 14 Feb 1995 chris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE wrote: > > > Kevin Flanagan (kevin@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE) wrote: > > : I hear that PINE can be configured to be a POP client, does anyone here have > > : a pointer to the document that I need to set this up? > > > > I've done it by inserting/changing one line in my .pinerc file: > > incoming-folders=POPMail {mailbox.cc.binghamton.edu/pop3} > > > > however, i've had some serious problems when using pine as a popmail client > > over a short time period (one week). I've one user who always get's the > > following message right after connecting to the popserver (this print's after > > it lists some of the headers): > > Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > > > > I guess I found at least one of the bugs in pop3 client code. I didn't > do comprehensive testing but at least I don't get the above message > anymore. > > Following is a diff of the necessary change to the pop3.c file > in c-client directory of pine distribution. pop3.oc is is the > original pop3.c in the distribution. This one is for the non-ANSI > pop3.c. The line numbers might be different for the ANSI one. > > If you find anything else I would apreciate if let me now. > > Selcuk > > *** pop3.oc Thu Feb 16 12:43:55 1995 > --- pop3.c Thu Feb 16 12:45:37 1995 > *************** > *** 363,370 **** > LOCAL->buf = (char *) fs_get ((LOCAL->buflen = MAXMESSAGESIZE) + 1); > nmsgs = strtol (LOCAL->reply,NIL,10); > /* create caches */ > ! LOCAL->header = (char **) fs_get (i * sizeof (char *)); > ! LOCAL->body = (char **) fs_get (i * sizeof (char *)); > for (i = 0; i < nmsgs;) { /* initialize caches */ > LOCAL->header[i] = LOCAL->body[i] = NIL; > /* instantiate elt */ > --- 363,370 ---- > LOCAL->buf = (char *) fs_get ((LOCAL->buflen = MAXMESSAGESIZE) + 1); > nmsgs = strtol (LOCAL->reply,NIL,10); > /* create caches */ > ! LOCAL->header = (char **) fs_get (nmsgs * sizeof (char *)); > ! LOCAL->body = (char **) fs_get (nmsgs * sizeof (char *)); > for (i = 0; i < nmsgs;) { /* initialize caches */ > LOCAL->header[i] = LOCAL->body[i] = NIL; > /* instantiate elt */ > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 02:33:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13820; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:33:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17975; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:05:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17969; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:05:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfPWQ-00038FC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 18:43:08 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 16 Feb 1995, Joe Brennan wrote: > IMAP holds INBOX in memory on the server throughout the time that the > client (pine) runs, while POP just sends the spool contents out to the > client. This means the load on the server end is a lot higher when a > couple of hundred people run an IMAP client than a POP client. Note > that we were using the mbox driver with IMAP, so what POP does is > similar in effect, that is, new mail gets appended to mbox as the user > runs pine. Users of PC-based clients (PCPine, Mailstrom) connecting > IMAP to our mail server see their mbox as INBOX. This is only true if you use the standard unix "bezerk" format. If you use "tenex" (mail.txt) format, there is minimal memory usage. Tenex format is designed to permit random-access I/O, whereas bezerk needs to do text rippling and so has to keep another copy the data around. If you have a standalone server with no user file access from other programs, there is no reason not to use tenex format. In any case, however, these are artifacts of a particular implementation, and are otherwise unrelated to any differences between POP and IMAP. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 02:40:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13956; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:40:45 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18271; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:32:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18265; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:32:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfPw1-00038KC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 02:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gary Truemner Subject: question: pine's "save as" ? Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 16 Feb 95 01:45:44 GMT Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: Can I save an email, under a new subject line ie. present "RE: your mail" subject: line, saved as anything slightly more descriptive. ? I am using pine v3.91... .thx.eMAIL me.___GT. --- >the obvious, usually isn't --- "Canada ai!"RCI __theKEYS>Ultrasonics.3Dvideo.CANDU.Inspections.R&D eMAIL>truemner@rd.hydro.on.ca .FAX>416 207 5433 .Phone>416 207 6380 Ontario Hydro Technologies.800 Kipling Ave.KR166.Toronto.ON.M8Z 5S4 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 03:38:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15584; Fri, 17 Feb 95 03:38:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20367; Fri, 17 Feb 95 03:25:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20361; Fri, 17 Feb 95 03:25:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfQo9-00038FC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 03:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmcging@access.digex.net (John McGing) Subject: PINE screws up my vt100 (?) Date: 16 Feb 1995 23:01:22 -0500 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Use pine on my shell account and everything is fine. When I telnet to my shell account from my (new) ppp account, telnet works as it should (vt100 mode, keys and such work right) until I get into pine. IN pine, the screen seems to "drop" a line. That is, I'll be in the inbox with 7 messages. If I move the cursor to message 5, I see 2 Lines for #5. And when I quit pine, all data now scrolls off the last line of the screen; in other words, the screen no longer scrolls but rather all data spins by on line 24 of the screen. This only happens when I telnet in. And only after using pine. ftp, nn, gopher, lynx etc all work as they should. If I don't use pine things work, but using pine means I have to log out and relog back in. Does this make sense to anyone and is there something I can do to resolve this? John -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ jmcging@access.digex.net Nobody knows the troubles I've seen JOHN.PF on GEnie Team OS/2 .... and nobody cares! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 04:04:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16370; Fri, 17 Feb 95 04:04:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19281; Fri, 17 Feb 95 03:50:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19275; Fri, 17 Feb 95 03:50:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfR81-00038FC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 03:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hirshaut@yu1.yu.edu Subject: Help Printing Message-Id: Date: 17 Feb 95 11:42:32 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I recently posted a message asking how to print directly from pine to my home printer. I am attached to the host computer via terminal and modem, VT 100. My home printer is attached to my terminal via a parallel port. I presume that I must somehow designate my home printer as a destination to the unix shell. Several people have contacted me indicating they have the same problem and asking for the answers I have received. So far none. If you know who might have the answer or if there is another newsgroup to question, please reply. Thank you. hirshaut@yu1.yu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 04:12:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17021; Fri, 17 Feb 95 04:12:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20799; Fri, 17 Feb 95 04:00:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20793; Fri, 17 Feb 95 04:00:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfRJy-00038FC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 03:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gifford@umich.edu (Scott Gifford) Subject: Using Pine Composer as Pnews replacement Date: 17 Feb 1995 04:47:13 GMT Message-Id: <3i19oh$83h@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: The Pine composer has a very clever way of integrating the mail/news header and the message body. Is there any way to invoke the composer, with the headers, on a news article from a newsreader other than Pine? I'd like some way to set it up as an editor, so when I reply to a news article in tin (or in some other newsreader) it fills out the header part, then tosses me into the editor, and when I'm done creates a very attractive news message suitable for sending to inews. If there's no good way, anybody got any good ideas for a hack? :) ------Scott. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 07:45:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21833; Fri, 17 Feb 95 07:45:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22565; Fri, 17 Feb 95 07:25:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22559; Fri, 17 Feb 95 07:25:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfUUZ-00038DC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 07:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: twpierce@midway.uchicago.edu (Tim Pierce) Subject: Re: GUARANTEED CREDIT REPAIR BY LAW FIRM Message-Id: References: <3hcrh8$naj@panix.com> <3hrvuq$po@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3hum2f$bb1@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 15:08:44 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article , justin wells wrote: >In article <3hum2f$bb1@csusac.ecs.csus.edu>, >Jon M. Taylor wrote: > >> Apparently (I did not know _this_), Pine can post replies to >>e-mailed followups. > >This feature has been discussed in comp.risks before, and you've just >become the latest living proof of how stupid and idiotic it is. > >Can someone post the e-mail address of the PINE developers, so that we >can all flame them when this happens? You could always check comp.mail.pine if you wanted to find out who develops it. >Maybe if you redirected the hate >mail you've got to THEM, they'd get rid of this ridiculous "feature." That strikes me as basically unlikely. Mark Crispin has advanced the opinion on comp.mail.headers that, instead, all of the newsreaders which append a "Newsgroups" header to outgoing mail should be fixed to behave differently. Thus, I don't get the impression that we're going to get sane behavior out of this MUA any time soon. -- Unsolicited commercial electronic mail sent to this address will be proofread at a cost of $200/hour (one half-hour minimum). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 07:59:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22180; Fri, 17 Feb 95 07:59:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22968; Fri, 17 Feb 95 07:51:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [142.97.226.11] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22962; Fri, 17 Feb 95 07:51:54 -0800 Received: by wto11.tor.on.doe.ca (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA21971; Fri, 17 Feb 1995 10:51:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 10:51:46 -0500 (EST) From: Jean Charest To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine for HPUX9.05? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We are running HPUX9.05 on HP9000 series 755. I noticed that the makefile for pine specifically mentions that it is intended for HPUX8. I compiled it anyways and it seems to work okay. I subsequently found and downloaded a copy of the pine suite for HPUX9.01 in binary format from the ftp site. It also seems to work okay. Are these differences academic or should I be on the lookout for time bombs because of the HPUX version which we are using? .----------------------------------------------------. | Jean Charest | | Atmospheric Environment Service | | Environment Canada | | 4905 Dufferin Street | | Downsview, Ontario | | M3H 5T4 | '----------------------------------------------------` From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 12:15:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04254; Fri, 17 Feb 95 12:15:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28354; Fri, 17 Feb 95 11:43:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28348; Fri, 17 Feb 95 11:43:23 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26576; Fri, 17 Feb 95 11:43:22 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 09:27:50 -1000 (HST) From: Nancy Hellekson To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Addressbook ? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 11:43:18 -0800 (PST) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I want to create a distribution list that has names identifying the email address. Presently, I can not do this. I have now created a separate addressbook which I want to use instead of a distribution list. Can I flag all the addresses at once, so it will act like a distribution list. Aloha...Nancy Nancy V. Hellekson *Mid-Pacific Institute Librarian/Internet Manager *2445 Kaala St. *Honolulu, HI 96822 nhelleks@aloha.com *(808)973-5060 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 12:53:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05723; Fri, 17 Feb 95 12:53:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29095; Fri, 17 Feb 95 12:11:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29089; Fri, 17 Feb 95 12:11:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfYxS-00038HC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 12:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: helen ruth etters Subject: Re: Help forwarding addresses Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 14:22:24 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3hmg4i$nu8@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Status: O X-Status: > helen ruth etters (etters@wfu.edu) wrote: > : I've created a pine alias called "majors" which contains the > : email addresses of all the students who major in our department. > : I want to give this list to the chair of our department, without his > : having to type in all the names/addresses again. How can I send this > : addressbook entry to him in such a way that he could use it without > : having to retype it? Thanks. > A quick a dirty solution: > Compose a message with that alias (distribution list?) in the "To:" > heading. Then use the cut feature and uncut it in the body of the > message. Put the chair's address on the message and send. > Does this work? > Andrew Hess American Language Institute, It might be the best I can do, although I don't think it would be useable to him in that form. Would be text instead of executable. Hold on....No, it didn't work. The Cut command isn't recognized when cursor is in header. Looks like I asked a tough one. Helen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 13:44:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08429; Fri, 17 Feb 95 13:44:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02672; Fri, 17 Feb 95 13:29:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Sun.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02664; Fri, 17 Feb 95 13:29:48 -0800 Received: from snail.Sun.COM ([129.145.1.3]) by Sun.COM (sun-barr.Sun.COM) id AA03389; Fri, 17 Feb 95 13:29:47 PST Received: from Sunmexico.Sun.COM (sunmex.Sunmexico.Sun.COM) by snail.Sun.COM (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07438; Fri, 17 Feb 95 13:29:45 PST Received: by Sunmexico.Sun.COM (5.0/SMI-5.3-900117) id AA05081; Fri, 17 Feb 1995 15:31:47 +0600 >Received: from sycmail.UUCP by invisible.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06064; Fri, 17 Feb 95 15:11:53 CST Received: from invisible by sunmex.sunmex.sunmexico.Sun.COM; Fri, 17 Feb 1995 15:31 CST Received: from sycmail.UUCP by invisible.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA06064; Fri, 17 Feb 95 15:11:53 CST Received: by sycmail.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA02478; Fri, 17 Feb 95 11:04:45 CST Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 11:04:44 -0600 (CST) From: "E. Isaias Callejas Mancilla" Reply-To: "E. Isaias Callejas Mancilla" Subject: Anonymous ftp server... To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Length: 812 Status: O X-Status: Hi, I was subsribed in "pine-info" in the past, (I'm not subscribed for the moment..).. I tried to find out the executable program for "pcpine" in the ftp server called "ftp.cac.washington.edu", but this program isn't there anymore!!!... Could you give me please the new ftp server for this program??... P.S. I'm sorry if this is a FAQ in the list... thank's in advance.. Reply me directly please, I'm not subscribed here.. _ E. Isaias Callejas Mancilla. | _ SEQUENT Systems Support Engineer + _ Sistemas y Computadores de Gestion SA de CV. _ | _ Av. Revolucion #2042-8` piso, San Angel. _ + Mexico, D.F. 01090, Tel. (525)5 50 07 40 _ | Internet:isma%sycmail.uucp@SunMexico.Sun.COM _ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 19:52:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23804; Fri, 17 Feb 95 19:52:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10944; Fri, 17 Feb 95 19:42:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10938; Fri, 17 Feb 95 19:42:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfg1E-00038FC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 19:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Using pine with a remote nntpserver Date: 18 Feb 1995 02:17:52 GMT Message-Id: <3i3lch$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Ian Russell Ollmann with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Tue, 14 Feb 1995 21:22:04 -0800: + news-collections=News *{another.computer.com/nntp}[] + nntp-server=another.computer.com You don't need to specify news-collections option. Just set your nntp-server option, and try again. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 20:40:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24927; Fri, 17 Feb 95 20:40:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09892; Fri, 17 Feb 95 20:32:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09886; Fri, 17 Feb 95 20:32:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfgpX-00038FC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 20:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Pine Flags and other e-mail readers Date: 18 Feb 1995 02:40:55 GMT Message-Id: <3i3mnn$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Jim Chivas *** with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 15 Feb 1995 16:59:43 GMT: + Greetings: I would like to know how Pine implements the Flags that it + shows for NEw, Answered, etc. mail. Is there a field in each mail item that + reflects the status? Can I expect other e-mail readers to respect this flag + or modify it in some way that Pine will not know about the next time I + read my email with Pine? Nope, not quite and that's why Pine is so cool and different. :) But what were you trying to do with other MUA's anyways? -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 21:31:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26213; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:31:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12348; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:22:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12342; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:22:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfhXz-00038CC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Kill command Date: 18 Feb 1995 03:14:00 GMT Message-Id: <3i3olo$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Frank Sandor with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 15 Feb 1995 21:08:15 GMT: + I used the kill command in a newsgroup using the * I had hoped that this + would kill any present posting so I could start the next day fresh with + only new postings. The problem is that now it will show that there are + say 34 postings but when I enter it, all the postings are once again + killed and I can't read anything. How do i get the postings back once + they've been killed? Or, how do I stop it from killing all new postings? Since 'kill' filter is not yet avail. in Pine, I believe you are using someother newsreader perhaps tin?, in which case there's an option when choosing the kill command as to just mark read, delete, expunge... so choose the first option that way you can yank them back in as unread. You can also trash your kill preferences file the location of which again depends on the newsreader you are using. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 21:48:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26585; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:48:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10846; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:42:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10840; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:42:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfht3-00038DC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: How to:Newsreader Killfile? Date: 18 Feb 1995 03:25:18 GMT Message-Id: <3i3pau$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Matt Schnierle with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 16 Feb 1995 00:39:04 GMT: + I'm new to both UNIX and Pine and cannot figure out how to set up a "kill" + file type setup in Pine. Specifically, I would like to only see articles + of a particular subject in a particular newsgroup. How might I set this + up? Any advice, suggestions, flames, whatever will be appreciated. Thanks. 'kill' filter option is not avail. in Pine as yet. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 21:56:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26794; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:56:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12659; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:47:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12653; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:47:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfhxs-00038DC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 21:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp server... Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 15:24:28 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: The primary archive for Pine is still ftp.cac.washington.edu. The archive was reorganized a bit some time ago, but everything is still there. PC-Pine is in the pine/pcpine directory... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 17 Feb 1995, E. Isaias Callejas Mancilla wrote: > Date: 17 Feb 1995 13:42:48 -0800 > From: E. Isaias Callejas Mancilla > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Anonymous ftp server... > > Hi, > I was subsribed in "pine-info" in the past, (I'm not subscribed > for the moment..).. I tried to find out the executable program for > "pcpine" in the ftp server called "ftp.cac.washington.edu", but this > program isn't there anymore!!!... > Could you give me please the new ftp server for this program??... > > P.S. I'm sorry if this is a FAQ in the list... thank's in advance.. > Reply me directly please, I'm not subscribed here.. > > _ E. Isaias Callejas Mancilla. > | _ SEQUENT Systems Support Engineer > + _ Sistemas y Computadores de Gestion SA de CV. > _ | _ Av. Revolucion #2042-8` piso, San Angel. > _ + Mexico, D.F. 01090, Tel. (525)5 50 07 40 > _ | Internet:isma%sycmail.uucp@SunMexico.Sun.COM > _ > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 22:12:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27414; Fri, 17 Feb 95 22:12:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12888; Fri, 17 Feb 95 22:04:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12878; Fri, 17 Feb 95 22:04:46 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25556; Fri, 17 Feb 95 22:04:45 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 22:04:06 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Email at the University of Washington Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Folks, Recently several of you have asked how email is handled at UW. Herewith a brief overview of the central email facilities... -teg --------------------- As of Feb 1995, UW's central computing service has the following properties: o Currently 45,000 user accounts. o Unrelenting growth in every dimension. o Mail is the most heavily used application. o Almost everyone uses Pine, though other mailers are available. o Total messages (in + out) on a typical sample day last December: -During 24-hour period: over 215,000 messages handled. -During the peak hour: nearly 20,000 messages handled. o There are two systems that provide just Pine and information access services, and that's where most of the accounts are: -a large Sequent multiprocessor. -a large cluster of RS6000/AIX machines. The AIX cluster carries the heaviest load, peaking at about 1300 active concurrent users (2/95), with that peak number growing lately by >100 each month. The cluster includes 12 IMAP servers, although 4 were just added to accommodate expected growth. We figure each of these IMAP servers can handle at least 200 concurrent sessions. We also have some smaller departmental clusters using DECstation 5000s, with a single IMAP server accommodating roughly 100 concurrent sessions. Each IMAP server in the main cluster is an RS/6000 model 250 "powerPC" with a 80Mhz CPU, 256MB of RAM with two 2GB disk drives. Even during very heavy loading these machines are not constrained by CPU cycles, network bandwidth or memory. Rather, the bottleneck is seek bandwidth: the ability of the 2 drives to seek quickly to locate various users' files and (especially) to create the incoming temporary sendmail work files. So more smaller drives would probably work better. We are using Tenex format mailboxes, because Tenex is more memory-efficient than Bky mbox format, and it also permits concurrent access. Later this year we plan to develop a C-Client driver for a still more efficient mailbox format modeled after one designed by CMU for their IMAP server. Mail is vectored to the appropriate IMAP server using a home-grown database and a modified sendmail on the MX mail forwarders for the "u.washington.edu" subdomain. Once it arrives at the designated IMAP server, mail is delivered directly into pseudo-home directories in order to facilitate quotas and to avoid having all inboxes in one partition. Delivery is done by our "tmail" program, which understands Tenex format mailboxes, extended "user+folder" addresses, and quota constraints. There is a common password file for all the machines in a given cluster, but users are not permitted to get a login shell on the IMAP servers. Eventually we expect to use a single Kerberos authentication database across all of the central clusters. That we have multiple IMAP servers is transparent to Unix Pine users, but not yet to PC-Pine users. We intend to implement IMSP to facilitate automatic server vectoring, but haven't done so yet. For now, this is handled for Unix Pine users via a global pine.conf inbox-path entry that references an environment variable set at login time. The environment variable contains the name of the IMAP server for the given user. However, PC-Pine users must manually configure the IMAP server name. Procmail or other delivery filters are not supported on the IMAP servers, but we do support extended addresses of the form: user+folder@u.washington.edu Such a message would be placed in the (pre-existing) folder named "folder", or if such folder did not exist, would be placed in the normal INBOX. This allows some filtering with cooperating senders... clearly only a partial solution. There is also a project underway to allow setting up vacation processing, using email as the method of interaction with the vacation robot. It would be nice to generalize this approach to allow other kinds of delivery processing, but we don't have the resources right now. At the moment, only INBOX (or other incoming message folders) are stored on the IMAP servers; however, in the future we may reconsider this and change to storing secondary (saved message) folders on the primary IMAP servers rather than on the home-directory NFS servers (which also run imapd so that PC-Pine users can easily get at secondary folders.) We didn't do this initially because we thought folks might need to access their folders using tools such as "grep", and not having to export the folders from the primary IMAP servers via NFS was a plus. In retrospect, just using Pine's Export command for cases when the message is needed in the home directory is probably sufficient for most of our constituency. We also thought we might want to treat backup of INBOX servers differently than normal fileservers, or even replicate them, but there are arguments on the other side. Using the same IMAP servers for both incoming and saved-message folders would accommodate some older IMAP clients, such as Mailstrom, that only know how to copy between folders on the same host, and it would also be more efficient, since saving messages would be done locally by the IMAP server, rather than by the client in a two-step process. Using the same server for both functions would also simplify client configuration a bit, and obviate the need for running imapd on the home-directory servers. Notwithstanding the question about where best to store secondary mail folders, the basic architecture seems very solid and the system appears to be working quite well. Still, there is more to be done, and the environment is still evolving. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 22:30:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27733; Fri, 17 Feb 95 22:30:46 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11414; Fri, 17 Feb 95 22:22:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11408; Fri, 17 Feb 95 22:22:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfiU2-00038DC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 22:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tc31@cornell.edu (Thomas) Subject: reply-to? Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 19:03:51 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to set a reply-to header using Pine? It apparently understands that header on incoming mail, but I can't find any key (nor information in the help and man pages) that does it. Is it even possible? I'm using Pine 3.89, compiled for Linux. Thanks. Thomas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 23:00:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28398; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:00:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13621; Fri, 17 Feb 95 22:57:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13615; Fri, 17 Feb 95 22:57:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfj5n-00038HC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 22:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric.Beaudoin@dmr.ca (Eric Beaudoin) Subject: Re: Eudora/Pine Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 18:55:06 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: In article , brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca ("Brian P. Hampson") wrote: > We have a client that wishes to attach files etc via Eudora (PC) to us, > and I was wondering if anyone knows if Eudora is MIME compliant? Yes it is. One thing to keep in mind tough is that Eudora encode attachment in AppleDouble or BinHex. I don't know if Pine will be able to decode them. Best *** *o o* __________________ooO_(_)_Ooo_________________________________________________ Eric Beaudoin | Mes opignions sont miennes et Groupe DMR Inc. (514) 877-3301 | peuvent devenir les votres. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 23:25:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28923; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:25:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13956; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:22:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13950; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:22:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfjUN-00038KC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Stretching Pine Display Date: 18 Feb 1995 04:22:22 GMT Message-Id: <3i3slu$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. David Caputo with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 16 Feb 1995 13:57:22 GMT: + Can someone please tell me how to use a longer length with pine? + I have an 80 x 35 vt320 terminal window but Pine only uses about 25 lines. + How can I get it to use all 35? At the prompt before starting Pine type the following: % stty rows ## cols ## where ## is the approp. number of rows and cols. that you prefer. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 23:25:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28959; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:25:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12191; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:22:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12185; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:22:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfjUU-00038MC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Help on saving to a folder Date: 18 Feb 1995 04:27:31 GMT Message-Id: <3i3svj$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mz. Elsie Pettit with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 16 Feb 1995 15:07:21 GMT: + When you want to save more than one, say, several messages to a folder, is + there a way of "batching" them and sending them all at once into the created + folder? It's kind of time-consuming to do it a message at a time! First enable the aggregate-command-set option in the Setup/Config screen. Then use the (;) key to select more than one mail matching certain criteria and then (A)pply the (S)ave command to save them to the preferred folder. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 23:26:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28994; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:26:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12183; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:22:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12177; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:22:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfjTI-00038LC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ashahsav@uoguelph.ca (Arash Shahsavarani) Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp server... Date: 18 Feb 1995 04:25:34 GMT Message-Id: <3i3sru$bid@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: Status: O X-Status: David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : The primary archive for Pine is still ftp.cac.washington.edu. The archive : was reorganized a bit some time ago, but everything is still there. : PC-Pine is in the pine/pcpine directory... : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) : University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 : 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA I've tried both ftp.cac.washington.edu and using the upgrade but both times there seems to be something wrong with the pcpine_w.zip (something looks wrong with the others too). The Upgrade say the size of the file should be more that 700KB ( don't remember the exact size). But the files on the directory are about 520KB. Is there anyother site wher one could get PC-PINE? Thanks Arash -- ,-, ;' ; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~;' |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ;' '; __..;-------------' "-______ _--"`~~ Arash Shahsavarani ~~~~~~~~------- ( (@) ||||| ashahsav@uoguelph.ca ~--__ ||||| B.Sc.Marine Biology (in progress) ~~-:==== ||||| ~~~-----______\ |__________________---------- `. | \ | \ ; \_/ "We will look upward to wisdom and strength... Not seeking other desires..." - Kyokushinkai, Osu! ___________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 17 23:30:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29080; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:30:20 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14012; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:27:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14006; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:27:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfjXf-00038KC; Fri, 17 Feb 95 23:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skareem@netcom.com (Sam Kareem) Subject: Re: Help on sending message Message-Id: References: <56113.jelorza@campus.leo.itesm.mx> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 00:31:58 GMT Status: O X-Status: jelorza@campus.leo.itesm.mx wrote: : Hello, : Does anybody knows how can I send a message to many people ( about 80 : different address ) ? I have a distribution list on my address book ( Pine : 3.91, running under RS6000 ) with maybe 80 persons, and when I try to send : it a message Pine only send about 66, I don't know if this is a : restriction or there are a better way to do that. Suggestions? y don't u break them into 2 groups ? -- **************************************************************************** * Sam Kareem | Give me liberty * * Lexus Enterprises | or * * skareem@netcom.com | Give me death ! * **************************************************************************** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 00:50:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00861; Sat, 18 Feb 95 00:50:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13267; Sat, 18 Feb 95 00:47:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13261; Sat, 18 Feb 95 00:47:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfknP-00038HC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 00:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: question: pine's "save as" ? Date: 18 Feb 1995 03:31:30 GMT Message-Id: <3i3pmi$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Gary Truemner with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Thu, 16 Feb 95 01:45:44 GMT: + Can I save an email, under a new subject line + ie. present "RE: your mail" subject: line, saved as anything slightly + more descriptive. ? I am using pine v3.91... No, but it is improper net-ettiquette not to type in an appropriate subject in the Subject: header. If one doesn't type any subject at all only then when you reply to it you will get "Re: your mail" subject line. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 01:10:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01611; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:10:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15311; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:07:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15305; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:07:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfl51-00038HC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: badwine@netcom.com (Ken Malvino) Subject: Help with pine 3.91 on Netcom Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 08:29:51 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am interested in the updated version 3.91 to use instead of 3.89. Netcom has declined to do the upgrade. I have a basic dial up account and want to use the most recent version of pine. Is this possible??? Please E-mail me at badwine@netcom.com with any helpful information. ken From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 01:15:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01760; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:15:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15432; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:12:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15426; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:12:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfl9Q-00038HC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rlvictor@ciagri.usp.br (Reynaldo L. Victoria) Subject: Extracting file undecoded Date: 17 Feb 1995 23:12:26 GMT Message-Id: <3i3agq$s9e@bee.uspnet.usp.br> Status: O X-Status: I received a mail with a bynary file attached but it's coded and I'm not able to extract it. Is there a way to do it? If yes, please HELP!!!!! All info is welcome Daniel Victoria From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 01:15:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01762; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:15:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13712; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:12:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13706; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:12:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfl9A-00038DC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: How to set save-folder to sender as default Date: 18 Feb 1995 04:35:04 GMT Message-Id: <3i3tdo$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Stefan Berg with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 16 Feb 1995 18:08:22 GMT: + I would like to know how I can configure + pine for UNIX so that the default folder + to save in always is the name of the sender + of the mail I want to save. Just set your save message rule option to this in the Setup/Config screen: saved-name-msg-rule: by From -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 01:20:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01889; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:20:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13795; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:17:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13789; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:17:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rflGB-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: printing addressbook; Ctrl ^ not working Date: 18 Feb 1995 05:28:03 GMT Message-Id: <3i40h3$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Michael Agelasto with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Sat, 18 Feb 1995 01:15:22 GMT: + 1/ When printing my addressbook on the local desktop printer (using the print + command within addressbook), I find that a large block within a + distribution lists is omitted. Has anyone had this problem? Nope. + 2/ I am unable to mark and cut text (Ctrl ^). Someone mentioned this is + a previous posting, but I don't recall a reply. Use esc esc ^ (twice escape key, then shift-6) instead of Ctrl ^ + 3/ What is the latest version of pine? 3.91 -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 01:31:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02468; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:31:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15643; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:27:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.cs.utexas.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15637; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:27:35 -0800 Received: from grit.cs.utexas.edu (werner@grit.cs.utexas.edu [128.83.138.115]) by mail.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA06101 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 1995 03:27:34 -0600 Received: by grit.cs.utexas.edu (8.6.9/Client-v1.4) id DAA07697; Sat, 18 Feb 1995 03:27:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199502180927.DAA07697@grit.cs.utexas.edu> From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 03:27:32 -0600 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I hope your ears are ringing about this problem Status: O X-Status: Newsgroups: news.admin.misc,news.admin.policy,alt.current-events.net-abuse,news.groups Path: cs.utexas.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!torn!alf.uwaterloo.ca!undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca!rjwells From: rjwells@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (justin wells) Subject: Re: GUARANTEED CREDIT REPAIR BY LAW FIRM Message-ID: Sender: news@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (news spool owner) Nntp-Posting-Host: lambert.uwaterloo.ca Organization: University of Waterloo References: <3hcrh8$naj@panix.com> <3hrvuq$po@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3hum2f$bb1@csusac.ecs.csus.edu> Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 02:54:56 GMT Lines: 22 Xref: cs.utexas.edu news.admin.misc:32805 news.admin.policy:25367 alt.current-events.net-abuse:20104 news.groups:134813 In article <3hum2f$bb1@csusac.ecs.csus.edu>, Jon M. Taylor wrote: > Apparently (I did not know _this_), Pine can post replies to >e-mailed followups. Our sysadmins (who like to change things and not tell >anyone) apparently stealth-enabled this, and as I did not know that this >was even *possible* with pine, let alone that this feature was activated, >I inadvertantly posted some e-mail replies. I also got robo-mailed by >some news software bitching about malformed news headers.... *sigh*. This feature has been discussed in comp.risks before, and you've just become the latest living proof of how stupid and idiotic it is. Can someone post the e-mail address of the PINE developers, so that we can all flame them when this happens? Maybe if you redirected the hate mail you've got to THEM, they'd get rid of this ridiculous "feature." -- .signature

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From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 01:41:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02752; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:41:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15867; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:37:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15861; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:37:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rflXy-00038FC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 01:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: h9397584@hkusub (Michael Agelasto) Subject: printing addressbook; Ctrl ^ not working Message-Id: Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 01:15:22 GMT Status: O X-Status: 1/ When printing my addressbook on the local desktop printer (using the print command within addressbook), I find that a large block within a distribution lists is omitted. Has anyone had this problem? 2/ I am unable to mark and cut text (Ctrl ^). Someone mentioned this is a previous posting, but I don't recall a reply. 3/ What is the latest version of pine? ===================================================================== Michael Agelasto Phone: (852) 2858-1914 Department of Education (852) 2549-5678 (res) University of Hong Kong Fax: (852) 2858-5649 Hong Kong email: h9397584@hkucc.hku.hk email: h9397584@hkusub.hku.hk ===================================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 02:27:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03672; Sat, 18 Feb 95 02:27:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14722; Sat, 18 Feb 95 02:23:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14716; Sat, 18 Feb 95 02:23:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfmHf-00038FC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 02:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Address Problem Date: 18 Feb 1995 02:36:24 GMT Message-Id: <3i3mf8$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. mikeh with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Wed, 15 Feb 1995 16:19:58 GMT: + I'm using pine3.91 on my linux box and connect with SLIP to my internet + account. I'm also using pop. I keep getting messages from my system + administrator about my mail messages going to him. he said if this + problem isn't rresolved in 48 hours I'll not be able to use pine. + My address is mikeh@mordor.com and for some reason replies go to + root@mordor.com. How can I change this to mikeh@mordor.com. The + root@mordor.com address appears when I reply to a newsgroup posting from + pine. Hmmmm...looks like your From: is set to root@mordor.com Compose a message, postpone it. Go to the postpone folder and view this message, check the From: header. If it says root....then you may have to rebuild Pine again but this time with the ALLOW_EDIT_FROM option enabled. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 03:07:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04554; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:07:30 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16873; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:02:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16867; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:02:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfmrM-00038FC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 02:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: WWW on Pine? Date: 18 Feb 1995 03:04:32 GMT Message-Id: <3i3o40$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Joe Ducharme with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Wed, 15 Feb 1995 13:41:21 -0600: + Send email to: listserv@info.cern.ch + no subject + for pages without html tags type: + send http://address.of.url/more/information/here + for the tags still embedded, type: + source http://address.of.url/more/information/here + Of course, you'd type out the address you're interested in. NOTE: I + haven't tried this myself, I'm just passing on what I read. Laters... This won't work if it just downloads the *.html file, as the gif images, imagemaps and other graphics will not get downloaded which almost defeats the purpose of W3. For ascii based W3 access 'lynx' is a better alternative, otherwise you can just telnet to the http srever site (port 80) and GET the html file to the localdrive and then use a browser to view that if access to 'lynx' is not avail. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 03:36:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05242; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:36:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15609; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:32:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15603; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:32:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfnGC-00038FC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Pine's spell checker? Date: 18 Feb 1995 04:12:07 GMT Message-Id: <3i3s2n$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Seif Zadeh Hossein with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 16 Feb 1995 06:13:24 GMT: + Every time I try to spell check my mails using pine's spell checker, it nags + about all the abbreviations that are present in the mails, eg. internet + addresses, name and so on. Is there any way I may define a custom dictionary, + to stop this nagging? Instead give 'ispell' a try. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 03:39:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05329; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:39:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17236; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:32:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17230; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:32:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfnGE-00038HC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Saving mail to floppy? Date: 18 Feb 1995 04:17:57 GMT Message-Id: <3i3sdl$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. J. Wagner with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 15 Feb 1995 23:24:33 -0800: + Is it possible to save e-mail to floppy...preferrably in a text format + that could be accessed by Wordperfect? If so how do I do it? + Needless to say I'm using Pine. :) Pine saves mail as a flatfile which can be downloaded to the localdrive either using ftp or some serial based comm.pkg which can later be edited by yes...Wordperfect. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 03:49:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05513; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:49:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15742; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:43:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15736; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:42:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfnY5-00038FC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: postponed.... Date: 18 Feb 1995 04:43:48 GMT Message-Id: <3i3tu4$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mz. Becky Davidson with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 16 Feb 1995 19:48:35 GMT: + We were logged on through a modem and using pine and the modem connection + was lost. Ever since there has been a postponed message everytime we + try to compose. We tried starting it up again and deleting it. no go. we tried starting it up again and sending it....again...no go...We also tried deleting + the file through the ksh. once again...no go....does anybody know how + to get rid of it? You are probably getting this error message which prompts you for Continue with postponed message? and when you answer Yes, Pine replies back saying there isin't any message postponed really. If that is the case, then do a 'ls -a' to see if there exists a '.pine-interrupted' file in your home dir. If it does exist, delete it and then start Pine. This time when you Compose, and hit 'y' for to resume postponed composition you will have no problems. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 03:58:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05631; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:58:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17476; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:53:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17470; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:53:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfngq-00038FC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 03:51 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: stopping the "Request Document" in newly installed Pine Date: 18 Feb 1995 04:50:24 GMT Message-Id: <3i3uah$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. T. L. Scott with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 16 Feb 1995 22:52:36 GMT: + My group recently installed Pine on our unix machine, running + NewBSD. Pine works fine, but each time any one starts the program + is asks if you want the Pine Document mail to you. + How does one stop this? Or tell Pine that you have seen the message + once and do not need to see it again? Pine prompts you this if it doesn't find a '.pinerc' file in the $HOME. Make sure you retain a copy of .pinerc in the home dir. which will have the last-version-used=3.90+ entry in it. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 04:37:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06909; Sat, 18 Feb 95 04:37:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16491; Sat, 18 Feb 95 04:30:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16485; Sat, 18 Feb 95 04:30:31 -0800 Received: from wesson.wylie.com by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13181; Sat, 18 Feb 95 04:30:27 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 07:30:34 -30000 From: "Stephen R. Wylie" Subject: Re: WWW on Pine? [hahahahaha] To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3i3o40$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 18 Feb 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Date: 18 Feb 1995 03:04:32 GMT > From: Wet-Sprocket > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: WWW on Pine? > > Comes here Mr. Joe Ducharme with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in > this article on Wed, 15 Feb 1995 13:41:21 -0600: > > + Send email to: listserv@info.cern.ch > + no subject > + for pages without html tags type: > + send http://address.of.url/more/information/here > > + for the tags still embedded, type: > + source http://address.of.url/more/information/here > > + Of course, you'd type out the address you're interested in. NOTE: I > + haven't tried this myself, I'm just passing on what I read. Laters... > > This won't work if it just downloads the *.html file, as the gif images, > imagemaps and other graphics will not get downloaded which almost defeats > the purpose of W3. almost?? i'd pretty much say it DOES defeat the purpose... pictures, sounds, and HOT-LINKS make www what it is.... i'd be tempted to use pine exclusively for email [like i do] and use netscape to surf the web... > > For ascii based W3 access 'lynx' is a better alternative, otherwise you can > just telnet to the http srever site (port 80) and GET the html file to > the localdrive and then use a browser to view that if access to 'lynx' is not > avail. > give up on lynx too... no pix... it WILL get you by... but it's a ford pinto compared to netscape. > -- > ---. , , > \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ > \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) > `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' > Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . > Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' > __________________________________________________________________________ > "I've been on a calendar, but never on time" - Marilyn Monroe > if you don't have lynx or netscape, you should get a copy [netscape...] or cry to your sysadmin... netscape has a version for MS windoze for your pc also.... srw ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stephen R. Wylie http://www.mindspring.com/~swylie/ computer geek Internet Email: swylie@wylie.com Linux Freak For PGP public key, Finger ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 82KZ550-C or send mail to above addr. with Subject: get pubkey Atlanta, GA "I'm your icecreamman; stop me when I'm passing by" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 05:00:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07386; Sat, 18 Feb 95 05:00:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16809; Sat, 18 Feb 95 04:54:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16803; Sat, 18 Feb 95 04:54:08 -0800 Received: from wesson.wylie.com by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13567; Sat, 18 Feb 95 04:54:06 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 07:54:14 -30000 From: "Stephen R. Wylie" Subject: random signatures To: Pine-Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: i can point Tin to a directory full of signatures and have it pick a random sig when I post. is this ability available with pine [which i use for mail only]? I'm using 3.89 on linux. thanx. srw ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stephen R. Wylie http://www.mindspring.com/~swylie/ computer geek Internet Email: swylie@wylie.com Linux Freak For PGP public key, Finger ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 82KZ550-C or send mail to above addr. with Subject: get pubkey Atlanta, GA Vote Democratic; it's easier than getting a JOB!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 05:28:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08051; Sat, 18 Feb 95 05:28:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17172; Sat, 18 Feb 95 05:23:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17166; Sat, 18 Feb 95 05:23:20 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA00058; Sat, 18 Feb 1995 08:23:09 +0500 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 08:23:09 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 622 Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 8 Feb 1995, Sherry H. Lake wrote: > Machine: DEC 2100 (alpha) running OSF/1 3.0 > Pine 3.91 > > Problem: Users are not properly logging off their accounts and pine > processes are eating between 10 and 60 % of the CPU. We're seeing the same problem here (Pine 3.91.SOL, SunSparc Server, Solaris 2.3, ksh). -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 05:31:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08160; Sat, 18 Feb 95 05:31:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17224; Sat, 18 Feb 95 05:28:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17218; Sat, 18 Feb 95 05:28:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfp8Z-00038FC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 05:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mechp!bacon@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Jerry Bacon) Subject: Re: Eudora/Pine Message-Id: <1995Feb18.010945.22373@mechp.uucp> Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 01:09:45 GMT References: Status: O X-Status: Brian P. Hampson (brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca) wrote: : We have a client that wishes to attach files etc via Eudora (PC) to us, : and I was wondering if anyone knows if Eudora is MIME compliant? Yes. The free version (1.x) does MIME and BINHEX, the commercial version (2.x) also does UUENCODE. -- Jerry D. Bacon bacon@mechp.seaslug.org Microcomputer Electronics Corp. Kirkland, WA USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 06:31:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09106; Sat, 18 Feb 95 06:31:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19474; Sat, 18 Feb 95 06:27:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19468; Sat, 18 Feb 95 06:27:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfq1M-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 06:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Clyde E. Bowman III" Subject: Newbee question :) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 09:17:38 -0800 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Could someone tell me why my return key acts like a control J. When I try to create a new paragraph (as such) I must press my down arrow then my space bar then my down arrow to create same. If I dare hit the return key. . . . justification of everything. argh! Thanks for your time. Clyde From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 06:44:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09322; Sat, 18 Feb 95 06:44:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18024; Sat, 18 Feb 95 06:38:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18018; Sat, 18 Feb 95 06:38:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfq9B-00038HC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 06:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: harmonr@coho.halcyon.com (Robert Harmon) Subject: Re: Pine's spell checker? Date: 18 Feb 1995 08:55:36 GMT Message-Id: <3i4cm8$cqk@news1.halcyon.com> References: <3huqe4$t4j@aggedor.rmit.EDU.AU> Status: O X-Status: Seif Zadeh Hossein (s921666@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.edu.au) wrote: : Hi there, : Every time I try to spell check my mails using pine's spell checker, it nags : about all the abbreviations that are present in the mails, eg. internet : addresses, names and so on. Is there any way I may define a custom dictionary, : to stop this nagging? The problem with ispell is that it only works with PICO from within PINE. I like to use PICO as my default editor in other programs as well so I created a custom dictionary for PICO. Try this: - spell needs to know the location of the default dictionary. It is usually: /usr/dict/hlista - spell needs two files in your home directory: (1) a list of new words to add to your custom dictionary (upper or lower case, it doesn't seem to matter), (2) a new hashed version of your custom dictionary. - I named mine: (1) ispell.words so I can use it for spell & ispell (clever of me), (2) .newhlista - add the following to your .login: setenv SPELL 'spell -d .newhlista' - Use the following to create a custom dictionary for spell: cat [file] | spellin [path to default dict]/hlista > [custom dictionary] cat ispell.words | /usr/dict/hlista > .newhlista When you log off and log back on your new custom dictionary will contain your words. Good luck. Robert H. Harmon (harmonr@halcyon.com) -- Chris Harmon & Associates Management & Training Consultants PO Box 2756, Kirkland, WA 98083-2756 (206) 814-3204 Vox (206) 820-4807 Fax From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 08:29:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11381; Sat, 18 Feb 95 08:29:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19264; Sat, 18 Feb 95 08:21:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cello.gina.calstate.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19258; Sat, 18 Feb 95 08:21:53 -0800 Received: (from ibray@localhost) by cello.gina.calstate.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id IAA24317; Sat, 18 Feb 1995 08:19:13 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 08:19:10 -0800 (PST) From: "Ira W. Bray" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Capture Text Problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: When I turn on text capture to put my e-mail into a text file and later open that file with my wordprocessor there are many extraneous spaces at the beginning of each line. The number of spaces vary; it happens with all messages I capture. I am using VT102 emulation. How can I get PINE to capture text formatted more like what I see on screen? Any help much appreciated! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 08:36:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11527; Sat, 18 Feb 95 08:36:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20993; Sat, 18 Feb 95 08:28:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20987; Sat, 18 Feb 95 08:28:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfrwY-00038FC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 08:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Resorting folders? (surpised by mass saves) Date: 18 Feb 95 16:16:32 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I have been paring down my INBOX (don't ask how big it is). The ; commands and apply commands are WONDERFUL! I can do all sorts of zooms, narrows, broadens, etc, til I get the messages I want, then I save them into folders hundreds at a time. However, I have been surprised by one *feature*: since my INBOX is sorted for view by reverse received date, the folders I have created now have my mail permanently sorted in this order, with the oldest messages last. I would much prefer to have the actual order of the messages in the files be oldest first. In general I suppose I could do this by changing the sort criteria before I resaved them, but I would prefer to have fewer steps. I also have some folders where I have been aggregating mail from my sent-mail and INBOX to archive correspondence with some people. I would like to have the mail in these interleaved in the order of the correspondence. Does anyone know of tools to permanently resort mailboxes? Thank you. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 09:28:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12586; Sat, 18 Feb 95 09:28:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19993; Sat, 18 Feb 95 09:23:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19987; Sat, 18 Feb 95 09:23:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfssE-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 09:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Stretching Pine Display Date: 18 Feb 95 16:54:29 GMT Message-Id: References: <3hvlk2$oi5@hppadbk.waterloo.hp.com> Status: O X-Status: caputo@hppade.waterloo.hp.com (David Caputo) writes: >Can someone please tell me how to use a longer length with pine? >I have an 80 x 35 vt320 terminal window but Pine only uses about 25 lines. How can I get it to use all 35? >Thank-you What version of pine? On SunOS, using 80x34 xterms, I have the following in my .login: eval `/usr/openwin/bin/resize -c` This sets rows and cols for stty. You could also do: stty rows 35 cols 80 at the prompt or in your .login. You might want to check your manpages. If you are not using UNIX, then I wouldn't know. >-- >David Caputo Email: caputo@waterloo.hp.com >Phone: +1-519-883-3083 Telnet: 883-3083 FAX: +1-519-886-8620 >HP Panacom Division, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada EST/EDT(GMT-5) -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 10:06:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13426; Sat, 18 Feb 95 10:06:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22148; Sat, 18 Feb 95 09:58:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22142; Sat, 18 Feb 95 09:58:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rftNK-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 09:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kidambi@grad.csee.usf.edu (Kalyanram Kidambi) Subject: Spool Directory Date: 18 Feb 1995 15:46:22 GMT Message-Id: <3i54oe$hr2@mother.usf.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi, We have lots of users who subscribed to newsgroups and once a week it fills up /usr/spool/mail.. since these users fo not check their mail regularly (That's why even mild verbal threats do not work).. Is there a way in pine, to spool the messages in invidual home directories.. since quota is enabled on the file system, they will be forced to delete or atleast see the magnitude of the problem.. Thanks Kalyan Dept of Electrical Engineering University of South Florida (University of Sun and Fun) :-) -- **************************************************************************** Kalyan R Kidambi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 13:58:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18194; Sat, 18 Feb 95 13:58:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24999; Sat, 18 Feb 95 13:50:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24993; Sat, 18 Feb 95 13:50:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfwyM-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 13:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Lenny Parsons Subject: Re: I want a .newsrc with everything Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 10:19:51 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3d09p5$irv@news.halcyon.com> Status: O X-Status: On 18 Dec 1994, Nancy McGough wrote: > neilh@halcyon.halcyon.com (Neil J. Hoopman) writes: > >How can I generate a .newsrc file with every newsgroup > >available on Halcyon? > > Here are 2 different methods to subscribe to all newsgroups that > your host gets: > > USING TRN > ========= > You do not need to be a TRN user to use this method. > This method is easier but can take a *lot* more time than the next > method (using nngrep). > > At the newsgroup selection level type: > > a . > > This means add newsgroups matching pattern ``.'', i.e., containing > any single character. Then at the [ynYN] prompt type Y to add > them all. > > Question: Does anyone know if there is a way to avoid viewing all the > newsgroup names that get added - this can take a *long* time? > > > USING NNGREP > ============ > You do not need to be an NN user to use this method. > > cd > cd .nn # if you don't have .nn dir don't worry about next line > mv LAST LAST.old # LAST keeps track of the last newsgroup nn knows about > cd > mv .newsrc .newsrc.old > nngrep -u | sed -e 's/ *$/:/' > tmp.unsub # See below (*) for explanation > pico tmp.unsub # replace pico with your editor; > # remove any lines at the top that say ``Connecting...'' > # (Halcyon doesn't produce these lines so you don't need > # to do this step at Halcyon.) > cat .newsrc.old tmp.unsub > .newsrc > > Next run your newsreader (nn, trn, tin, etc) to be sure that it understands > your new .newsrc. If it does: > > rm tmp.unsub > rm .newsrc.old > > If it doesn't you can get your old .newsrc back with this: > > mv .newsrc.old .newsrc > > > (*) "nngrep -u" lists all unsubscribed newsgroups and then the sed > command appends a ":" to the end of each of these newsgroup names > and then ">> .newsrc" appends them to the bottom of your .newsrc. > > Hope this helps. > If anyone knows any other methods of subscribing to all newsgroups, > please let me know. > Thanks, > Nancy > > -- > /\_/\ Nancy McGough > ( o.o ) Infinite Ink > > ~ < http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ -OR- http://www.best.com/~ii/ > > Nancy: I am interested in the concept you passed on the internet in December. What I am wondering is if any other offline-readers can also do the same as you suggested. I contacted the Pine group but they stated that pin will not work off-line on a 286 system in Dos environment. I do not use windows as yet. This may happen in the future but not yet. I am exploring several type of offline-readers. I am told about crosspoint but have not gotten that one up yet. I have had some good pointers from one person named Sandy. Thank you Sandy. Another concept I have heard about is Blue Wave but I don't know much about it. It may be only for the fido-net concept. Another one I recently heard about was Werthy which I think will work. Not sure. I believe the designer of this one told me. I am interested in your further concepts and anyone else's for that matter. The desire is to download messages and newsgroups messages to my PC through appropriate commands after logging onto my account. Can also a batch file be developed using the commands you suggested from the unix prompt? I may have to experiment with this. Lenny. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 14:14:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18580; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:14:26 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23519; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:05:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23513; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:05:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfxEd-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: g_museaf@titan.sfasu.edu (The New Right, Get Used to It!) Subject: Faq and Sig files Message-Id: <1995Feb18.150831@titan.sfasu.edu> Date: 18 Feb 95 15:08:31 CST Status: O X-Status: Could someone tell me where the FAQ is located? Also, I want to creat a .sig file..How do I do this? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 14:24:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18728; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:24:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25368; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:16:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25362; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:16:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfxOF-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ashahsav@uoguelph.ca (Arash Shahsavarani) Subject: Why does PC-Pine Freeze whenI send mail? Date: 18 Feb 1995 20:23:32 GMT Message-Id: <3i5l04$mif@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: I posted something a couple of days ago and got no answers, so here it goes again: PC_pine gets my mail from the mail server but it won't send any mail it just freezes and I have to use ALT-CTRL-DEl to shut it down. I've used both versions 3.89 and 3.91 in Windows/Winsock. I've put in the same smtp as in my oder news clients. If anyone knows where I could get answers to this question please let me know. Thank you Arash -- ,-, ;' ; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~;' |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ;' '; __..;-------------' "-______ _--"`~~ Arash Shahsavarani ~~~~~~~~------- ( (@) ||||| ashahsav@uoguelph.ca ~--__ ||||| B.Sc.Marine Biology (in progress) ~~-:==== ||||| ~~~-----______\ |__________________---------- `. | \ | \ ; \_/ "We will look upward to wisdom and strength... Not seeking other desires..." - Kyokushinkai, Osu! ___________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 14:27:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18782; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:27:54 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23710; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:20:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23704; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:20:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfxV3-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 14:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bilwil@Primenet.Com (William Smithers) Subject: Pine No Longer Saves on Disconnect! Date: 18 Feb 1995 21:19:13 GMT Message-Id: <3i5o8h$n92@news.primenet.com> Status: O X-Status: For the past several weeks, Pine no longer saves the mail message I'm working on when my provider (PrimeNet) has one of its frequent disconnects. At least, no "saved" or "postponed" message, appears when I hit "Compose" on reaccessing Pine, as it used to. I'm sure everyone knows how maddening it is to be near the end of a long, complicated letter, and lose it all to a disconnect. Can anyone help me to restore the former condition of an automatic "Save?" Much thanks, -- Bill Smithers From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 16:06:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20599; Sat, 18 Feb 95 16:06:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26590; Sat, 18 Feb 95 16:02:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26584; Sat, 18 Feb 95 16:01:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfz28-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 15:57 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scottt@python.CS.ORST.EDU (T. L. Scott) Subject: Re: stopping the "Request Document" in newly installed Pine Date: 18 Feb 1995 22:47:43 GMT Message-Id: <3i5tef$i2l@engr.orst.edu> References: <3i3uah$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: In article <3i3uah$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, Wet-Sprocket wrote: >Comes here Mr. T. L. Scott with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in >this article on 16 Feb 1995 22:52:36 GMT: > + My group recently installed Pine on our unix machine, running > + NewBSD. Pine works fine, but each time any one starts the program > + is asks if you want the Pine Document mail to you. > + How does one stop this? Or tell Pine that you have seen the message > + once and do not need to see it again? >Pine prompts you this if it doesn't find a '.pinerc' file in the $HOME. >Make sure you retain a copy of .pinerc in the home dir. which will have >the last-version-used=3.90+ entry in it. All the home directories have the .pinerc and those files do have the line: last-version-used=3.91 However, Pine does no seem to be seeing this file at all and still offering the ReQuest Document. Is there anyplace else to look? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 16:27:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21087; Sat, 18 Feb 95 16:27:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25194; Sat, 18 Feb 95 16:20:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25188; Sat, 18 Feb 95 16:20:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rfzMA-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 16:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell) Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: 18 Feb 1995 17:19:37 -0600 Message-Id: <3i5va9$r5d@Mercury.mcs.com> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , >One of our central clusters includes about 24 login servers and 12 IMAP >servers (AIX boxes, I'm not sure what model) to support around 45,000 >accounts. There are also a significant number of PC-Pine users connecting >to those IMAP servers, but I don't have any numbers. The IMAP servers are >configured for Tenex folders and have no problem with CPU load. Out of 45,000 accounts you *must* have a few people who travel to places where it is at least a long distance call to get an internet connection. How do you handle the people who want to quickly download their mailbox to their notebook machine and work offline? Les Mikesell les@mcs.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 19:15:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24122; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:15:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28974; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:06:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28968; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:06:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rg1uq-00038LC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Thomas Guptill) Subject: Re: Address Problem Message-Id: <1995Feb19.025843.10605@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> References: <3i3mf8$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 95 02:58:43 GMT Status: O X-Status: > + My address is mikeh@mordor.com and for some reason replies go to > + root@mordor.com. How can I change this to mikeh@mordor.com. The > + root@mordor.com address appears when I reply to a newsgroup posting from > + pine. >Compose a message, postpone it. Go to the postpone folder and view this >message, check the From: header. If it says root....then you may have to >rebuild Pine again but this time with the ALLOW_EDIT_FROM option enabled. I'm not sure if this problem appeared anywhere else, but I know that the non-PMDF version of Pine-VMS 3.89, when used with a PMDF-equipped machine and no tcp/ip gets really confused about From: lines, takes the second word of the "personal name" variable, and puts it in as the userid for the from line. Solution? Change "personal name" to your userid. Problem solved. :) Don't know if this is related to the UNIX problem, though. Tom -- | Tom Guptill I don't speak for UCC from this account. | | tgpt_ltd@DB1.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 19:35:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24426; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:35:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27410; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:27:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27404; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:27:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rg2E2-00038LC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgpt_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Thomas Guptill) Subject: Re: Saving mail to floppy? Message-Id: <1995Feb19.030204.10881@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> References: <3i3sdl$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 95 03:02:04 GMT Status: O X-Status: In <3i3sdl$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) writes: > + Is it possible to save e-mail to floppy...preferrably in a text format > + that could be accessed by Wordperfect? If so how do I do it? > + Needless to say I'm using Pine. :) >Pine saves mail as a flatfile which can be downloaded to the localdrive >either using ftp or some serial based comm.pkg which can later be edited >by yes...Wordperfect. Pine/VMS users will have to use the EXTRACT or PRINT functions to get files which are readable by WordPerfect, as VMS Mail uses a non-standard compressed format for mail. Tom -- | Tom Guptill I don't speak for UCC from this account. | | tgpt_ltd@DB1.CC.ROCHESTER.EDU | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 19:43:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24627; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:43:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29291; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:31:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29285; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:31:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rg2Ii-00038MC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 19:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MagNET Supervisor Subject: Why is searching for subject keywords in pine 3.91 so SLOW?? Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 13:24:35 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello... Is there a way to improve the performance of Pine's keyword subject string seach? It seems like it goes through ALL messages in a specific newsgroup, not just the unread ones... Leave e-mail to root@omega.interealm.com Thanks --Guy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 20:56:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26172; Sat, 18 Feb 95 20:56:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28465; Sat, 18 Feb 95 20:46:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28459; Sat, 18 Feb 95 20:46:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rg3UI-00038LC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 20:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Deborah Leah Blackner Subject: Pls. Help Non-UNIX person with uuencode Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 22:39:08 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Hi! Sorry if I am posting this to the wrong place. but .... Could someone please tell me the steps to uuencode a binary file (it's a .gif to be specific) and then attach it to a pine mail message. I have read the cryptic man page on uuencode and tried to follow the directions given, but have been unsuccessful. What I need is a step by step, hold my virtual hand, type of direction. UNIX and I are grudgingly becoming acquainted, but we are not quite on speaking terms yet. THANKS! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 21:27:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26870; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:27:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00729; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:18:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00723; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:18:03 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09089; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:17:59 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 21:17:58 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "T. L. Scott" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: stopping the "Request Document" in newly installed Pine In-Reply-To: <3i5tef$i2l@engr.orst.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If Pine is not seeing the .pinerc at all, that would certainly explain it. I gather you've found other settings ignored to verify this hypothesis. In order to investigate why Pine is not finding the .pinerc file, you might use the bug report command (redirecting it to yourself) and look at the config data to see what it found and what it didn't find. -teg On 18 Feb 1995, T. L. Scott wrote: > > In article <3i3uah$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>, > Wet-Sprocket wrote: > >Comes here Mr. T. L. Scott with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in > >this article on 16 Feb 1995 22:52:36 GMT: > > > + My group recently installed Pine on our unix machine, running > > + NewBSD. Pine works fine, but each time any one starts the program > > + is asks if you want the Pine Document mail to you. > > + How does one stop this? Or tell Pine that you have seen the message > > + once and do not need to see it again? > > >Pine prompts you this if it doesn't find a '.pinerc' file in the $HOME. > >Make sure you retain a copy of .pinerc in the home dir. which will have > >the last-version-used=3.90+ entry in it. > > All the home directories have the .pinerc and those files do have the line: > last-version-used=3.91 > > However, Pine does no seem to be seeing this file at all and still offering > the ReQuest Document. > > Is there anyplace else to look? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 21:33:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27116; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:33:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28892; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:23:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28886; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:23:39 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04084; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:23:36 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 21:23:24 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Leslie Mikesell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: UW email (was POP client???) In-Reply-To: <3i5va9$r5d@Mercury.mcs.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: > Out of 45,000 accounts you *must* have a few people who travel to places > where it is at least a long distance call to get an internet connection. > How do you handle the people who want to quickly download their mailbox > to their notebook machine and work offline? True, and not very well (yet). We even have folks who would like full disconnected operation, not just offline mode... Both of these are on the to-do list. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 21:36:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27262; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:36:02 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00863; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:27:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00857; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:27:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rg45o-00038LC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: psmfc!carters@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Carter Stein) Subject: Help compiling pine for solaris 2.3 on Sparc 1000 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 04:36:20 GMT Status: O X-Status: I ran the command "build sol" to build pine for solaris 2.3 on the S1000. But, make gave a Fatal Error for addrbook.o. Can anyone send me some e-mail hints about what may need to be tweeked? If things work out, I'll send the solution... Thanks, --Carter Stein carters@psmfc.gov Pacific States Marine Fisheries Commission 503.650.5400 ==== output of build sol follows ================= make args are "CC=cc" Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=sol echo sol > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s non-ANSI systype cd non-ANSI/c-client; make sol make mtest OS=sv4 EXTRADRIVERS="" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto \ RSHPATH=/usr/bin/rsh CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= " \ RANLIB=true LDFLAGS="-lsocket -lnsl -lgen" ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh mtx tenex mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f OSTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo sv4 > OSTYPE echo -g -Dconst= > CFLAGS echo -lsocket -lnsl -lgen > LDFLAGS ln -s os_sv4.h osdep.h cc -g -Dconst= -c mtest.c cc -g -Dconst= -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -lsocket -lnsl -lgen cd non-ANSI/ms;make If CCMD library is not available, ms will not be made. This is alright since ms is only a demonstration program. ../../../ccmd directory not found, so make.ms is ignored cd non-ANSI/ipopd;make cd non-ANSI/imapd;make `imapd' is up to date. Making Pico Making Pine. cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"SOL\" -c addrbook.c "/usr/include/unistd.h", line 172: identifier redeclared: rename "addrbook.c", line 3954: cannot recover from previous errors cc: acomp failed for addrbook.c *** Error code 1 make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `addrbook.o' Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open bin/mtest: 422680 + 26048 + 1896 = 450624 bin/imapd: 445420 + 28068 + 9076 = 482564 bin/pico: 121256 + 24528 + 8140 = 153924 Done ====end of build sol============================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 21:56:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27612; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:56:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29236; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:47:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29230; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:47:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rg4ST-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rlynn@phoenix.lhup.edu (Becky Davidson) Subject: postponed.... Date: 19 Feb 1995 05:35:21 GMT Message-Id: <3i6lap$2jf@jake.esu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Sorry the trying to compose only if you catch it immediately....My guess why it doesn't work a day or so later on our system is that we are running skulker on the temp files....if you do it immediately it works but not a day or so later......if you wait and try to get back into it say a day later you get a coredump and get kicked out of pine....the only solution we have been able to come up with was to recreate the problem by going into compose in pine and force yourself to be kicked off the system by not proberly logging off...i.e. turning off the computer without logging off and then immediately go into pine...select compose and agree to go back to the postponed message.....then cancel it or continue it... that is our only solution..... thanks for the ideas though.... becky From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 22:04:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27790; Sat, 18 Feb 95 22:04:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01328; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:56:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01322; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:56:17 -0800 Received: from kelly.teleport.com (bsherman@kelly.teleport.com [192.108.254.10]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id VAA26108 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 1995 21:56:16 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 21:56:11 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian E. Sherman" To: Deborah Leah Blackner Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pls. Help Non-UNIX person with uuencode In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 18 Feb 1995, Deborah Leah Blackner wrote: > Could someone please tell me the steps to uuencode a binary file (it's a > .gif to be specific) and then attach it to a pine mail message. I use the following commands on SCO & Sun Unix systems. 1. cd to your home directory cd 2. copy the .gif file to your home directory cp /usr/tmp/your.gif . 3. compress the file compress your.gif (Note: File name has .Z appended to it) 4. check permissions on the file & change as necessary ls -l your.gif.Z (to check) chmod 666 your.gif.Z (to change) 5. uuencode the file uuencode your.gif.Z your.gif.Z > encoded.fil (this command creates a file called "encoded.fil" when the file is uudencoded it will be called your.gif.Z) 6. Start pine select c (compose message) after entering the To: e-mail address go to the attachment: field and key in the name of the file you wish to send ie: encoded.fil pine responds with 1. "1. /home/username/encoded.fil (63 KB)" 7. Finish composing message and send. I usually include the following in the message: "The attached file is an uuencoded compressed file" The person getting the message & file should know how to detach, and uncompress the file before using the uudencode command. Hope this helps. If you have trouble send me an E-mail. *-------------------------------------------------------------------------* | _///_ "You can make a program fool-proof but then someone comes | | (o o) along and makes a better fool" Murphy's Law | *-----ooO--~--Ooo-------------------------------------*-------------------* | Newport/Layton Home Fashions,Inc. - MIS/EDI Manager | | E-Mail: Brian E. Sherman | | snailMail: 1420 NW Lovejoy St. *---------------* | Portland, OR USA 97209 | Opinions Expressed Here Are All Mine. | Voice: 503-222-3847 Ext. 234 | | Fax: 503-222-7465 | *-------------------------------------* (oo) (oo) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 22:08:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27888; Sat, 18 Feb 95 22:08:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01336; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:56:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01330; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:56:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rg4d1-00038KC; Sat, 18 Feb 95 21:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: L_Man Subject: Re: PINE screws up my vt100 (?) Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 21:55:09 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: funny I've had a strange problem too that i attribute to Pine and a vt100 messup... if i page through newsrgroups using + after about four pages i see this "OK" on the screen and i'm locked up from my account. I've tried rehashing the vt100 screen but nothing works so I punt the whole thing and dissconnect. What's going on here? This has happened to me on a consistent basis on various newsgroups (including this one). lawrence lmbutler@crl.com | "I do not know what expert judges would think about the intrinsic excellence or perfection of the object in question, but I do know that it pleases me to behold or contemplate.It may or may not be admirable in the judgment of experts, but I enjoy it nevertheless"-M.J.Adler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 22:58:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28873; Sat, 18 Feb 95 22:58:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02031; Sat, 18 Feb 95 22:50:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02025; Sat, 18 Feb 95 22:50:10 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04941; Sat, 18 Feb 95 22:50:08 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 22:49:36 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: L_Man Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE screws up my vt100 (?) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: You have Mr. Hayes (of modem fame) to thank for this... and it's why the keymenu now advertises the SpaceBar as the way to page forward, instead of the "+" symbols. Here's the deal: most "Hayes compatible" modems interpret three consecutive "+" characters as a request to interrupt the modem connection. The "OK" you are seeing is coming from your modem. Solution: use the space bar instead, or leave more time before consecutive + characters. -teg On Sat, 18 Feb 1995, L_Man wrote: > funny I've had a strange problem too that i attribute to Pine and > a vt100 messup... if i page through newsrgroups using + after about > four pages i see this "OK" on the screen and i'm locked up from my > account. I've tried rehashing the vt100 screen but nothing works so > I punt the whole thing and dissconnect. What's going on here? This > has happened to me on a consistent basis on various newsgroups (including > this one). > > lawrence > > lmbutler@crl.com | "I do not know what expert judges would think about the > intrinsic excellence or perfection of the object in question, but I do know > that it pleases me to behold or contemplate.It may or may not be admirable in > the judgment of experts, but I enjoy it nevertheless"-M.J.Adler > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 18 23:28:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29335; Sat, 18 Feb 95 23:28:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02356; Sat, 18 Feb 95 23:20:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from desiree.teleport.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02350; Sat, 18 Feb 95 23:20:11 -0800 Received: from linda.teleport.com (bsherman@linda.teleport.com [192.108.254.12]) by desiree.teleport.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id XAA04389 for ; Sat, 18 Feb 1995 23:20:10 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Feb 1995 23:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: "Brian E. Sherman" To: L_Man Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE screws up my vt100 (?) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 18 Feb 1995, L_Man wrote: > a vt100 messup... if i page through newsrgroups using + after about > four pages i see this "OK" on the screen and i'm locked up from my Depending on how fast you "page" through the newsgroups you could be sending the "+++" command to your modem and causing the modem to go from data mode to command mode. The "OK" is the modem waiting for a command. Next time this happens, try keying in "ATO" and the modem should go back online and you should still be in pine. To stop this from happening, use the space bar to page. *-------------------------------------------------------------------------* | _///_ "You can make a program fool-proof but then someone comes | | (o o) along and makes a better fool" Murphy's Law | *-----ooO--~--Ooo-------------------------------------*-------------------* | Newport/Layton Home Fashions,Inc. - MIS/EDI Manager | | E-Mail: Brian E. Sherman | | snailMail: 1420 NW Lovejoy St. *---------------* | Portland, OR USA 97209 | Opinions Expressed Here Are All Mine. | Voice: 503-222-3847 Ext. 234 | No-One Else Will Claim Them. | Fax: 503-222-7465 | *-------------------------------------* (oo) (oo) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 05:17:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07292; Sun, 19 Feb 95 05:17:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04787; Sun, 19 Feb 95 05:03:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04781; Sun, 19 Feb 95 05:03:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgBFY-00038KC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 05:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Clyde E. Bowman III" Subject: Cntl J / return key Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 07:54:36 -0800 (EST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Could someone tell me why my return key acts like a control J. When I try to create a new paragraph (as such) I must press my down arrow then my space bar then my down arrow to create same. If I dare hit the return key. . . . justification of everything. argh! Thanks for your time. Clyde From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 05:27:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07581; Sun, 19 Feb 95 05:27:49 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04866; Sun, 19 Feb 95 05:09:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04860; Sun, 19 Feb 95 05:08:48 -0800 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA20112 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sun, 19 Feb 1995 21:08:38 +0800 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 21:08:37 +0800 (HKT) From: Kevin Yeung To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bounce selection Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi all, How can I bounce (NOT forward) all the selection as individual mails to another a/c? I want to bounce my mails to another a/c and reply there. If I forward them, they will either become one long mail or a MIME digest - this way, I cannot reply them. I cannot use .forward as well, cuz I'm already using procmail which makes use of .forward. Thank you. -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 07:59:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10126; Sun, 19 Feb 95 07:59:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06652; Sun, 19 Feb 95 07:46:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06646; Sun, 19 Feb 95 07:46:38 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA08845; Sun, 19 Feb 1995 10:46:29 +0500 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 10:46:28 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine concatenates messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1543 Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 4 Feb 1995 bcraft@darwin.bio.uci.edu wrote: > I am using Pine 3.91 on a system with SunOS 4.1.3. In a seemingly random > fashion Pine will add a new incoming message to the last message that came in. > I have found as many as 5 seperate messages (coming from different people) > all strung together into one message. It doesn't seem to happen in a > consistant fashion ie. sometimes all of the messages are separate and > sometimes some of the messages are combined while others are separate. > > Does anyone know what is going on? This didn't happen until Pine was upgraded > to 3.91. I've seen that a few times, too, with Pine 3.91 running on our SunSparc Server under Solaris 2.3. It has happened only a couple of times that I'm aware of (who knows how many users didn't bother to report it), and I haven't noticed any pattern to it. The concatenated messages seem to have nothing in common other than the fact that their received dates are consecutive. I don't know enough about how Pine manipulates the mail file to say for sure, but if this were one of the old PC or Mac based BBSes I used to run I would suspect a couple of screwed up start-of-message pointers (or a failure of the software to recognize them). -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 08:04:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10282; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:04:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08715; Sun, 19 Feb 95 07:52:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08708; Sun, 19 Feb 95 07:52:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgDsi-00038KC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 07:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mgarcia@freenet1.scri.fsu.edu (Mario Garcia) Subject: Where can i get pine for SVR4? Date: 19 Feb 1995 14:58:25 GMT Message-Id: <3i7mai$7ri@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi you all, can anybody tell me the best site for ftping pine code for my at&t unix SVR4 system.? Thanks. Mario. mgarcia@ns.unpma.pa From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 08:36:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10990; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:36:16 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07088; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:23:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07082; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:23:15 -0800 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM ([3.12.38.33]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA18222 for ; Sun, 19 Feb 1995 11:23:13 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA25826; Sun, 19 Feb 95 11:21:46 EST Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 11:21:45 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pls. Help Non-UNIX person with uuencode In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I think the Deborah's original request implies that the recipient cannot read the MIMEd message, hence the need to uuencode. I've annotated Brian's message (everyone's an editor, right? ) On Sat, 18 Feb 1995, Brian E. Sherman wrote: > On Sat, 18 Feb 1995, Deborah Leah Blackner wrote: > > > Could someone please tell me the steps to uuencode a binary file (it's a > > .gif to be specific) and then attach it to a pine mail message. > > I use the following commands on SCO & Sun Unix systems. > 1. cd to your home directory > cd > 2. copy the .gif file to your home directory > cp /usr/tmp/your.gif . Not sure why he thinks the gif file in in /usr/tmp. To generalize: cp /your.gif . > 3. compress the file > compress your.gif > (Note: File name has .Z appended to it) > 4. check permissions on the file & change as necessary > ls -l your.gif.Z (to check) > chmod 666 your.gif.Z (to change) > 5. uuencode the file > uuencode your.gif.Z your.gif.Z > encoded.fil > (this command creates a file called "encoded.fil" > when the file is uudencoded it will be called your.gif.Z) Make sure you have at least one space between the two "your.gif.Z" names: > 6. Start pine > select c (compose message) > after entering the To: e-mail address go to the > attachment: field and key in the name of the file you > wish to send ie: encoded.fil > pine responds with > 1. "1. /home/username/encoded.fil (63 KB)" At this step, I would ctrl-r the file into the message body, rather than attaching it. MIMEing a uuencoded file buys you nothing, since it is already ASCIIfied. (Note that the first line of the uuencoded file is "begin 666 your.gif.Z", so uudecode will know how to name the file, as Brian mentioned above. > 7. Finish composing message and send. > > I usually include the following in the message: > "The attached file is an uuencoded compressed file" > > The person getting the message & file should know how to detach, > and uncompress the file before using the uudencode command. > Hope this helps. If you have trouble send me an E-mail. I think Brian meant uudecode first, then uncompress the file. But in this case, the recipient should Option 1 - save the message to a file, e.g., message.uu, then execute uudecode: uudecode message.uu which will produce a reconstituted your.gif.Z, which is uncopressed uncompress your.gif Option 2 - pipe the message to uudecode from the mail program | uudecode if your recipient's mail progam supports that. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 08:43:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11144; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:43:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07211; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:32:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07205; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:32:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgEWm-00038CC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Cntl J / return key Date: 19 Feb 1995 16:15:27 GMT Message-Id: <3i7qqv$ggm@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Clyde E. Bowman III with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on Sun, 19 Feb 1995 07:54:36 -0800 (EST): + Could someone tell me why my return key acts like a control J. + When I try to create a new paragraph (as such) I must press my down arrow + then my space bar then my down arrow to create same. If I dare + hit the return key. . . . justification of everything. argh! Hmm...looks like your return key is not mapped right. stty icrnl Type that at the prompt and restart Pine and go into Compose mode. See if it interprets return as ^j. The man page on stty will give you more information about the settings. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ It is better to place a fence at the edge of a cliff......... .....than to have an ambulance waiting at the bottom. -Anon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 08:58:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11415; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:58:22 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07372; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:43:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07366; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:43:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgEgX-00038LC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: postponed.... Date: 19 Feb 1995 16:29:59 GMT Message-Id: <3i7rm7$ggm@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: What....? When you postpone the current composition, it gets saved in the postponed-msgs folder which is in the users' $HOME and _not_ /tmp. Even if you wipe /tmp every day (?) clean that shouldn't bother Pine. Unless ofcourse if you have set Pine to save postponed-msgs in /tmp ?? or am i still completely clueless about your setup over there? Comes here Mz. Becky Davidson with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 19 Feb 1995 05:35:21 GMT: + Sorry the trying to compose only if you catch it immediately....My guess + why it doesn't work a day or so later on our system is that we are running + skulker on the temp files....if you do it immediately it works but not + a day or so later......if you wait and try to get back into it say a day + later you get a coredump and get kicked out of pine....the only solution + we have been able to come up with was to recreate the problem by going into + compose in pine and force yourself to be kicked off the system by not + proberly logging off...i.e. turning off the computer without logging off + and then immediately go into pine...select compose and agree to go back + to the postponed message.....then cancel it or continue it... + that is our only solution..... + thanks for the ideas though.... + becky -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ It is better to place a fence at the edge of a cliff......... .....than to have an ambulance waiting at the bottom. -Anon From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 08:59:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11447; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:59:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09316; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:43:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09310; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:43:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgEgP-00038CC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: Bounce selection Date: 19 Feb 1995 16:21:25 GMT Message-Id: <3i7r65$ggm@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. Kevin Yeung with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 19 Feb 1995 05:26:34 -0800: + How can I bounce (NOT forward) all the selection as individual mails to + another a/c? I want to bounce my mails to another a/c and reply there. + If I forward them, they will either become one long mail or a MIME digest + - this way, I cannot reply them. I cannot use .forward as well, cuz I'm + already using procmail which makes use of .forward. Bounce as an aggregate command is not currently available. but since you are using procmail already why not write a small recipe to do that? Procmail gurus on the procmail mailing list can help you out on this. -- /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\/~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~\ o __|| Sriram, N CV shrim@astro.temple.edu ||__ o /| \ Comp. Svcs. - TU /\ http://monroe.temple.edu / |\ | \_ `~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~' _/ | --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 09:07:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11802; Sun, 19 Feb 95 09:07:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09421; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:52:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09413; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:52:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgEri-00038DC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 08:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu (Wet-Sprocket) Subject: Re: stopping the "Request Document" in newly installed Pine Date: 19 Feb 1995 16:37:22 GMT Message-Id: <3i7s42$ggm@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: Comes here Mr. T. L. Scott with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this article on 18 Feb 1995 22:47:43 GMT: + All the home directories have the .pinerc and those files do have the line: + last-version-used=3.91 + However, Pine does no seem to be seeing this file at all and still offering + the ReQuest Document. Hmm... looks like you have a pine.conf.fixed file which is what Pine is reading, instead of $HOME/.pinerc. Make sure you make appropriate changes to pine.conf.fixed and pine.conf files. -- ---. , , \___ ("\''/").___..--''"`-._ \ `9_ 9 ) `-. ( ).`-.__.`) `___/riram NCV (_Y_.)' ._ ) `._ `. ``-..-' Computer Svcs _..`--'_..-_/ /--'_.' . Temple Univ. (il).-'' ((i).' ((!.-' __________________________________________________________________________ "If your not the lead dog. . . the view never changes . . ." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 09:11:34 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11903; Sun, 19 Feb 95 09:11:34 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07588; Sun, 19 Feb 95 09:02:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07582; Sun, 19 Feb 95 09:02:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgEzk-00038FC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 09:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ashahsav@uoguelph.ca (Arash Shahsavarani) Subject: where can I get Pine fo VAX/VMS? Date: 19 Feb 1995 16:57:42 GMT Message-Id: <3i7ta6$8sl@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: I had seen some references to getting pine for VMS on two sites. one being lenin.....edu ( don't remember the middle part) and the other one VMS....IL (again don't remember the middle part). The first one has apparently crashed. The second one is so slow I have not yet been able to download from it. Are there any other sites? Thanks Arash -- ,-, ;' ; ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~;' |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ;' '; __..;-------------' "-______ _--"`~~ Arash Shahsavarani ~~~~~~~~------- ( (@) ||||| ashahsav@uoguelph.ca ~--__ ||||| B.Sc.Marine Biology (in progress) ~~-:==== ||||| ~~~-----______\ |__________________---------- `. | \ | \ ; \_/ "We will look upward to wisdom and strength... Not seeking other desires..." - Kyokushinkai, Osu! ___________________________________________________________________________ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 10:17:54 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13229; Sun, 19 Feb 95 10:17:54 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10382; Sun, 19 Feb 95 10:07:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10376; Sun, 19 Feb 95 10:07:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgFxo-00038KC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 10:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grisha@cais.cais.com (Gregory Trubetskoy) Subject: Compuserve addresses (comma) ? Date: 19 Feb 1995 05:48:40 GMT Message-Id: <3i6m3o$5lq@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: I'm having hard time sending e-mail to people with Compuserve addresses. Pine doesn't like the comma in them. Is there a way around this? Please e-mail me... Thank You! -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Gregory Trubetskoy grisha@cais.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 12:01:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17707; Sun, 19 Feb 95 12:01:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09730; Sun, 19 Feb 95 11:47:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09724; Sun, 19 Feb 95 11:47:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgHX9-00038KC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 11:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: random@plato.simons-rock.edu (Daniel Drucker) Subject: multiple Fcc:'s? Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 19:24:17 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is it possible to have multiple Fcc:'s? I can't seem to be able to. Daniel -- M PGP 2.6 ID C0AE9429 from keyservers or mail me with subject "send pgp key" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 13:18:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19703; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:18:51 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13035; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:07:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13029; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:07:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgInj-00038KC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fuzzy@asarian.org (Fuzzy) Subject: pine 3.91 hangs when trying to post via NNTP Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 20:37:16 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- From: Fuzzy Subject: pine 3.91 hangs when trying to post via NNTP we experience a hung process when a user tries to POST to usenet. the NNTP server is defined in the system wide config file, included below. we wondered what we are doing incorrectly. we have tin for nntp running correctly, (able to post and read news). we wondered if there was some 'external' component missing or misconfigured perhaps? for example, trn for nntp also exhibits the same symptoms, (able to read the news server, but unable to post). this leads us to belive that perhaps there is a missing or misconfigured program for 'news' interaction. Q: does pine 3.91 require any externel news software to work correctly for posting to usenet via nntp? attachments (in-line) ~/.pinerc & /usr/local/lib/pine.conf Thanks in advance, a rather confused, _____ __ __ ____ ____ __ __ / ___// // //__ )/__ )\ \/ / / __/ / // / / /__ / /__\ / (_/ (____/ <____/<____//_/ sysadmin, asarian.org Email: fuzzy@asarian.org (non-anon) an72289@anon.penet.fi (true anon) wi.687@wizvax.com (true anon) anon-2986@anon.twwells.com (true anon) ================================================================= - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAy7Q/zUAAAEEAOFtrxOkBsC7FWLCDSYumgSPzirIG8HmfdNp9fjCHZZE3UhZ KRhlzGICIhsGQxPvCgb3G5nrYyUyKpRt0rmrTM2QSaeD4sp0T6GUmCeZ8OGGO896 SQBDfxq0f5ENnY0MzWmOQEnGrBt3L8QrD1cSqzkoBAuKqbSftb81DsWbcCglAAUR tCBGdXp6eSA8ZnV6enlAZnV6enkubmV3LXlvcmsubmV0Pg== =QlBC - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- ~/.pinerc # Updated by Pine(tm) 3.91, copyright 1989-1993 University of Washington. # # Pine configuration file -- customize as needed. # # This file sets the configuration options used by Pine and PC-Pine. If you # are using Pine on a Unix system, there may be a system-wide configuration # file which sets the defaults for these variables. There are comments in # this file to explain each variable, but if you have questions about # specific settings see the section on configuration options in the Pine # notes. On Unix, run pine -conf to see how system defaults have been set. # For variables that accept multiple values, list elements are separated # by commas. A line beginning with a space or tab is considered to be a # continuation of the previous line. For a variable to be unset its value # must be blank. To set a variable to the empty string its value should # be "". You can override system defaults by setting a variable to the # empty string. Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and # default to "no". # Lines beginning with "#" are comments, and ignored by Pine. ########################### Essential Parameters ########################### # Over-rides your full name from Unix password file. Required for PC-Pine. personal-name= # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain= # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server= # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server= # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). inbox-path= ###################### Collections, Folders, and Files ##################### # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path incoming-folders= # List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is # the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[] # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[] folder-collections= # List, only needed if nntp-server not set, or news is on a different host # than used for NNTP posting. Examples: News *[] or News *{host3/nntp}[] # Syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[] news-collections= # Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-fcc= # Over-rides default path for postponed messages folder, e.g. =pm (which uses # first folder collection dir) or ={host4}pm (using home dir on host4). # Default: postponed-mail (Unix) or POSTPONE.MTX (PC) in default fldr coltn. postponed-folder= # If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting. read-message-folder= # Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature signature-file= # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). # Default: none # Syntax: optnl-label path-name global-address-book= # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) # Syntax: optnl-label path-name address-book= ############################### Preferences ################################ # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. feature-list= # Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v) initial-keystroke-list= # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs= # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs=Approved:, X-Anon-Password:, X-Anon-To:, Return-Receipt-To: Fuzzy # Determines default folder name for Saves... # Choices: default-folder, by-sender, by-from, by-recipient, last-folder-used. # Default: "default-folder", i.e. "saved-messages" (Unix) or "SAVEMAIL" (PC). saved-msg-name-rule= # Determines default name for Fcc... # Choices: default-fcc, by-recipient, last-fcc-used. # Default: "default-fcc" (see also "default-fcc=" variable.) fcc-name-rule= # Sets presentation order of messages in Index. Choices: # subject, from, arrival, date, size. Default: "arrival". sort-key=Arrival # Sets presentation order of address book entries. Choices: dont-sort, # fullname-with-lists-last, fullname, nickname-with-lists-last, nickname # Default: "fullname-with-lists-last". addrbook-sort-rule= # Reflects capabilities of the display you have. Default: US-ASCII. # Typical alternatives include ISO-8859-x, (x is a number between 1 and 9). character-set= # Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer, # or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature. editor= # Program to view images (e.g. GIF or TIFF attachments). image-viewer= # If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only) use-only-domain-name= ########## Set within or by Pine: No need to edit below this line ########## # Your printer selection printer=lpr # Special print command if it isn't one of the standard printers personal-print-command= # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=95.2 # Set by Pine; controls display of "new version" message. last-version-used=3.91 /usr/local/lib/pine.conf # /usr/local/lib/pine.conf -- system wide pine configuration # # Values here affect all pine users unless they've overidden the values # in their .pinerc files. A copy of this file with current comments may # be obtained by running "pine -conf". It will be printed to standard output. # # For a variable to be unset its value must be null/blank. This is not the # same as the value of "empty string", which can be used to effectively # "unset" a variable that has a default or previously assigned value. # To set a variable to the empty string its value should be "". # Switch variables are set to either "yes" or "no", and default to "no". # Except for feature-list items, which are additive, values set in the # .pinerc file replace those in pine.conf, and those in pine.conf.fixed # over-ride all others. Features can be over-ridden in .pinerc or # pine.conf.fixed by pre-pending the feature name with "no-". # # (These comments are automatically inserted.) # Sets domain part of From: and local addresses in outgoing mail. user-domain= # List of SMTP servers for sending mail. If blank: Unix Pine uses sendmail. smtp-server= # NNTP server for posting news. Also sets news-collections for news reading. nntp-server=news2.new-york.net # Path of (local or remote) INBOX, e.g. ={mail.somewhere.edu}inbox # Normal Unix default is the local INBOX (usually /usr/spool/mail/$USER). inbox-path= # List of incoming msg folders besides INBOX, e.g. ={host2}inbox, {host3}inbox # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-host-name}folder-path incoming-folders= # List of directories where saved-message folders may be. First one is # the default for Saves. Example: Main {host1}mail/[], Desktop mail\[] # Syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}optnl-directory-path[] folder-collections= # List, only needed if nntp-server not set, or news is on a different host # than used for NNTP posting. Examples: News *[] or News *{host3/nntp}[] # Syntax: optnl-label *{news-host/protocol}[] news-collections= # Over-rides default path for sent-mail folder, e.g. =old-mail (using first # folder collection dir) or ={host2}sent-mail or ="" (to suppress saving). # Default: sent-mail (Unix) or SENTMAIL.MTX (PC) in default folder collection. default-fcc=sent # Over-rides default path for postponed messages folder, e.g. =pm (which uses # first folder collection dir) or ={host4}pm (using home dir on host4). # Default: postponed-mail (Unix) or POSTPONE.MTX (PC) in default fldr coltn. postponed-folder=postponed # Pine compares this value with the first folder collection directory. # If they match (or no folder collections are defined), and the directory # does not exist, Pine will create and use it. Default: ~/mail mail-directory= # If set, specifies where already-read messages will be moved upon quitting. read-message-folder=read # Over-rides default path for signature file. Default is ~/.signature signature-file= # List of file or path names for global/shared addressbook(s). # Default: none # Syntax: optnl-label path-name global-address-book= # List of file or path names for personal addressbook(s). # Default: ~/.addressbook (Unix) or \PINE\ADDRBOOK (PC) # Syntax: optnl-label path-name address-book= # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. feature-list=old-growth, assume-slow-link, enable-mail-check-cue, expanded-view-of-addressbooks, include-header-in-reply, news-approximates-new-status, news-read-in-newsrc-order, show-selected-in-boldface # Pine executes these keys upon startup (e.g. to view msg 13: i,j,1,3,CR,v) initial-keystroke-list= # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs=To, Cc, Subject, Return-Receipt-To # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs=Return-Receipt-To: # Determines default folder name for Saves... # Choices: default-folder, by-sender, by-from, by-recipient, last-folder-used. # Default: "default-folder", i.e. "saved-messages" (Unix) or "SAVEMAIL" (PC). saved-msg-name-rule= # Determines default name for Fcc... # Choices: default-fcc, by-recipient, last-fcc-used. # Default: "default-fcc" (see also "default-fcc=" variable.) fcc-name-rule=last-fcc-used # Sets presentation order of messages in Index. Choices: # subject, from, arrival, date, size. Default: "arrival". sort-key= # Sets presentation order of address book entries. Choices: dont-sort, # fullname-with-lists-last, fullname, nickname-with-lists-last, nickname # Default: "fullname-with-lists-last". addrbook-sort-rule=nickname-with-lists-last # Reflects capabilities of the display you have. Default: US-ASCII. # Typical alternatives include ISO-8859-x, (x is a number between 1 and 9). character-set= # Specifies the program invoked by ^_ in the Composer, # or the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" feature. editor= # Program to view images (e.g. GIF or TIFF attachments). image-viewer= # If "user-domain" not set, strips hostname in FROM address. (Unix only) use-only-domain-name= # Your printer selection printer= # Special print command if it isn't one of the standard printers personal-print-command= # The system wide standard printer standard-printer= # Full name for bug report address used by "Report Bug" command bugs-fullname= # Email address used by "Report Bug" command bugs-address= -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBL0eqVb81DsWbcCglAQH25AP+J7QucvbZdcxvzUkVIZV5Hz8eRffLJIG0 NWcFsxrTkPW6W19/oQgcgNN1PmEyQLTL9LPCpDdAnP5cpG3y2e5zxxq0rMSF3Hh/ 2RQNonjHGFu0plVKlugGlQQ6y+d7jcQw+gcQM27GW3LGuzWsYCTgFDv2y6b6ALcj 0/4aCtDj3m0= =upkQ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 13:38:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20136; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:38:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11240; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:27:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11234; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:27:23 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA10412; Sun, 19 Feb 1995 16:26:23 +0500 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 16:26:23 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: "W. Brett McKenzie" Cc: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MAC Printing - ANSI In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2449 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 16 Feb 1995, W. Brett McKenzie wrote: > I am getting more faculty requests about printing from PINE while at home. > > How do I get UW modified Kermit for the MAC? > > It seems that is the only 'certified' program. I doubt users will want to > have to purchase VersaTerm Pro on top of what they are already using. > Some use White Knight, some use Claris. Another Mac telecomm program that handles Pine's "y" print command correctly is the current version of Microphone (Microphone LT, Microphone II 5.x, or Microphone Pro 2.x, depending on what bells & whistles you want and how deep your pockets are). VersaTerm Pro is said to print correctly, but I've never used it. The most popular Mac telecomm program, Dave Alverson's shareware "Zterm", doesn't handle printing from Pine correctly, but it's not a complete waste. When you give the "y" print command, Zterm prints to your screen rather than to your printer. You can then scroll back to the beginning, select the "printed" text, and use Zterm's "Print Selection" command from the File menu. We have a large number of users who are satisfied to do it that way, because the minor inconvenience is more than offset by the low $30 shareware fee. Look for version 1.0b3 (or newer), which now supports Kermit as well as Xmodem and Zmodem. It's downloadable from virtually any BBS, commercial service, or FTP site where Mac is spoken. Then there is the Macintosh Communications Toolbox, Apple's latest curse on the telecomm world (preceded by AppleTerm for the Apple II and a long string of worthless Apple modems). I've yet to find a Mac telecomm program that depends on the Apple vt102 CTB tool that will print properly from Pine, not even to the screen like Zterm at least does. This means you can't print from Claris Works, Microsoft Works, and the like, since they use CTB routines instead of their own telecomm code. I haven't used White Knight since it was a shareware program called Red Ryder (a _long_ time ago), but I'm surprised to hear it doesn't print properly. It's unlike Scott Watson (the creator of RR/WK) to let something like that slip by. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 13:45:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20279; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:45:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11347; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:35:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11341; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:35:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgJAd-00038KC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwards%teaching.physics@ox.ac.uk (David Edwards) Subject: Re: "pico -w" and long lines Message-Id: <1995Feb19.193938.9282@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> References: <1995Feb11.124954.23177@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 19 Feb 95 19:39:38 GMT Status: O X-Status: David Edwards (edwards%teaching.physics@ox.ac.uk) wrote: > David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > > Pico can only read lines of 256 or less characters. It can create lines > > of any (?) length though... > Is this likely to be changed? Many people (including myself) use Pico as > as an editor to go with Tin, to provide a consistent editing environment > between news and mail. When following up to an article in a long thread, > the References: header can get rather long, and Pico happily wraps it > when the article is loaded in, meaning the two lines have to be manually > joined to prevent all the headers getting messed up. > Surely if it can create longer lines while editing, it can't be that > difficult to make it load them, too...? I wrote this a while back but still no reply... -- _ _ ==========////==================================================== / //// David Edwards: Welcome to the real world... \ || _ _ //// http://sable.ox.ac.uk/~worc0058/ || || \\\\ //// edwards.teaching@physics.oxford.ac.uk || \ \\\X/// dwe101@tower.york.ac.uk Don't believe the hype... / ====\XXX/========================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 14:01:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20603; Sun, 19 Feb 95 14:01:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11573; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:51:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11567; Sun, 19 Feb 95 13:51:50 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA10521; Sun, 19 Feb 1995 16:51:41 +0500 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 16:51:40 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: BINHEX w/ PINE In-Reply-To: <3i06cm$i6h@thot.u-strasbg.fr> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 872 Status: O X-Status: On 16 Feb 1995, Guy BRAND wrote: > > Is there a binhex option for pine? > > What for ? Forget binhex and use full MIME encoding. It works nicely with > Macs too ;-) Only if the recipient has MIME capability. The nice thing about BinHex4 is that it is so ubiquitous in the Mac community. > > Is there a binhex for unix boxes pref sun? > > If you really can't live without BinHex, get mcvert for Unix which converts > files from and to BinHex. Any idea where mcvert is available? I could make good use of it here. I suppose I could search for it, but... :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 14:10:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20790; Sun, 19 Feb 95 14:10:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11693; Sun, 19 Feb 95 14:01:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11686; Sun, 19 Feb 95 14:00:58 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA10575; Sun, 19 Feb 1995 17:00:49 +0500 Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 17:00:48 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Can Not Display? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 711 Status: O X-Status: Occasionally in another mailing list I get messages which displays only the following: [Part 1, Other/US-ASCII 660bytes] [Can not display this part. Use the "V" command to save in a file] Yet if I reply to such a message and include the original text, it displays perfectly in the Compose screen. Why is Pine able to display "Other/US-ASCII" text in the Compose screen but not in the Read screen? -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 15:06:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22258; Sun, 19 Feb 95 15:06:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14457; Sun, 19 Feb 95 14:54:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14451; Sun, 19 Feb 95 14:54:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgKRN-00038FC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 14:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 14:40:22 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3i5va9$r5d@Mercury.mcs.com> Status: O X-Status: On 18 Feb 1995, Leslie Mikesell wrote: > In article , > > >One of our central clusters includes about 24 login servers and 12 IMAP > >servers (AIX boxes, I'm not sure what model) to support around 45,000 > >accounts. There are also a significant number of PC-Pine users connecting > >to those IMAP servers, but I don't have any numbers. The IMAP servers are > >configured for Tenex folders and have no problem with CPU load. > > Out of 45,000 accounts you *must* have a few people who travel to places > where it is at least a long distance call to get an internet connection. > How do you handle the people who want to quickly download their mailbox > to their notebook machine and work offline? I've done it. It's a little more manual than people of clients such as Eudora are used to, but it is doable now. In Pine, that is simply an aggregate save to a local file on the notebook machine. Not very automatic, so we don't advertise Pine as an "off-line client"; you actually have to type 4 characters plus a file name. Similar, offline composing of messages is also possible, as long as you postpone messages each time (PC-Pine). In Unix pine on a laptop, you let the sendmail on the laptop worry about it. Generally, I prefer to spring for the long distance phone call unless I'm in a airplane (or I can use our INWATS). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 16:33:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24091; Sun, 19 Feb 95 16:33:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13611; Sun, 19 Feb 95 16:19:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13599; Sun, 19 Feb 95 16:19:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgLl3-000391C; Sun, 19 Feb 95 16:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shane DeRidder Subject: Re: PINE screws up my vt100 (?) Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 17:16:32 -0600 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 18 Feb 1995, L_Man wrote: > funny I've had a strange problem too that i attribute to Pine and > a vt100 messup... if i page through newsrgroups using + after about > four pages i see this "OK" on the screen and i'm locked up from my > account. I've tried rehashing the vt100 screen but nothing works so For the slim possibility that you're serious, hitting the + key three times in a row tells most modems to enter command mode. To get back to the connection you would type "ATO" on a hayes compatible modem. Shane- -- __ _ _ (_ |_ _.._ _ | \ _ |_)o _| _| _ ._ Love doesn't make the world go 'round __)| |(_|| |(/_ |_/(/_| \|(_|(_|(/_| It's what makes the ride worthwhile. ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// http://www.interaccess.com/users/shaned/index.html && shaned@interaccess.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 17:14:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25101; Sun, 19 Feb 95 17:14:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16223; Sun, 19 Feb 95 17:04:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16217; Sun, 19 Feb 95 17:04:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgMTK-00038CC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 16:59 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: byrgb@millkern.digex.net (Byrg Bonnelycke) Subject: Re: I want a .newsrc with everything Date: 20 Feb 1995 00:57:47 GMT Message-Id: <3i8peb$p41@news1.digex.net> References: Status: O X-Status: Hi, If I want to get a new .newsrc file, with ALL the some 10,000 newsgroup names available to me on MY system, I: 1) delete MY current .newsrc file with the UNIX command: rm .newsrc 2) call 'tin' with the UNIX command: tin 3) exit tin IMMEDIATELY and return to the UNIX prompt with tin's 'q' command 4) then search & edit the new COMPLETE .newsrc file with the vi-editor: vi .newsrc Regards, Byrg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 17:18:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25190; Sun, 19 Feb 95 17:18:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14371; Sun, 19 Feb 95 17:09:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14365; Sun, 19 Feb 95 17:09:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgMaV-00038CC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 17:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bparker@interaccess.com (Ben Parker) Subject: Re: Compuserve addresses (comma) ? Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 18:37:41 CST Message-Id: References: <3i6m3o$5lq@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: In article <3i6m3o$5lq@news.cais.com> grisha@cais.cais.com (Gregory Trubetskoy) writes: >From: grisha@cais.cais.com (Gregory Trubetskoy) >Subject: Compuserve addresses (comma) ? >Date: 19 Feb 1995 05:48:40 GMT >I'm having hard time sending e-mail to people with Compuserve addresses. >Pine doesn't like the comma in them. Is there a way around this? On the Internet, the comma is used ONLY as a separator between addresses, it has no other possible function. The solution to Compuserve addresses is to replace the comma with a period. e.g. my compuserve id is 71450,2735 internet form becomes 71450.2735@compuserve.com (note the comma chg'd ^ to a period) Ben Parker (IL) bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 22:02:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01130; Sun, 19 Feb 95 22:02:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20094; Sun, 19 Feb 95 21:52:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from han.hana.nm.kr by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20087; Sun, 19 Feb 95 21:52:29 -0800 Received: from saitgw.Sait.Samsung.Co.KR ([157.197.11.11]) by han.hana.nm.kr (4.1/KUM-0.1) id AA21398; Mon, 20 Feb 95 13:27:36 KST Received: from cad1.ssa4.samsung.co.kr by saitgw.Sait.Samsung.Co.KR (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04647; Mon, 20 Feb 95 13:21:32 KST Received: by cad1.ssa4.samsung.co.kr (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA21088; Tue, 20 Sep 1994 23:26:07 +1000 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 1994 23:26:07 +1000 From: root@cad1.ssa4.samsung.co.kr Message-Id: <9409201326.AA21088@cad1.ssa4.samsung.co.kr> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Want Pine-Info. Status: O X-Status: Req. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 22:03:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01162; Sun, 19 Feb 95 22:03:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20128; Sun, 19 Feb 95 21:54:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20122; Sun, 19 Feb 95 21:54:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgR3D-00038QC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 21:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: RARC Subject: Auto Forward? Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 00:06:16 +0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi everybody, I need to go somewhere that I cannot connect to email system for a long time. I want to forward my all coming mail to my friend. Could pine let me do this? Please tell me directly if you know. Thank you very much Un From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 22:21:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01708; Sun, 19 Feb 95 22:21:21 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18321; Sun, 19 Feb 95 22:11:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18315; Sun, 19 Feb 95 22:11:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgRGm-00038lC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 22:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dan@halcyon.com (Dan Lawrence) Subject: Re: I want a .newsrc with everything Date: 20 Feb 1995 02:53:22 GMT Message-Id: <3i9072$qso@news.halcyon.com> References: <3i8peb$p41@news1.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Status: O X-Status: In article <3i8peb$p41@news1.digex.net>, byrgb@millkern.digex.net says... >Hi, >If I want to get a new .newsrc file, with ALL the some 10,000 newsgroup >names available to me on MY system, I: (instructions removed...) I was always fond of taking the active file (usualy found in /usr/lib/news/active) using the unix command cut to strip off the extra data, and then append a ":" to the end of each line. I forget how I added the : to each line, but it should be easy to do using a unix command. Note that you may not have an active file if you use an nntp server. If you use nntp, you could try telneting to it on port 119, opeining a capture buffer (assuming you have one), and issuing the command that lists all groups. You can usualy type help to get a list of commands that the nntp server understands. You will still have to edit the data though. -- dan@halcyon.com (now using tia+SLIP) Dan & Amy Lawrence Seattle, WA USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 22:55:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02682; Sun, 19 Feb 95 22:55:52 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20856; Sun, 19 Feb 95 22:44:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20850; Sun, 19 Feb 95 22:44:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgRoy-00038QC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 22:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jace Subject: Re: Auto Forward? Date: Sun, 19 Feb 1995 22:52:04 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Sun, 19 Feb 1995, RARC wrote: > I need to go somewhere that I cannot connect to email system for a long > time. I want to forward my all coming mail to my friend. Could pine let me > do this? Please tell me directly if you know. Use a basic editor such as joe or pico to create a text file with the forwarding address in it, nothing else. Name the file .forward and save it in your home directory. Works for me. Jace From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 19 23:56:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03697; Sun, 19 Feb 95 23:56:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19402; Sun, 19 Feb 95 23:39:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19396; Sun, 19 Feb 95 23:39:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgSg7-00038SC; Sun, 19 Feb 95 23:37 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: les@MCS.COM (Leslie Mikesell) Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: 19 Feb 1995 22:33:15 -0600 Message-Id: <3i962b$kgr@Mercury.mcs.com> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Mark Crispin wrote: >> Out of 45,000 accounts you *must* have a few people who travel to places >> where it is at least a long distance call to get an internet connection. >> How do you handle the people who want to quickly download their mailbox >> to their notebook machine and work offline? > >I've done it. It's a little more manual than people of clients such as >Eudora are used to, but it is doable now. > >In Pine, that is simply an aggregate save to a local file on the notebook >machine. Not very automatic, so we don't advertise Pine as an "off-line >client"; you actually have to type 4 characters plus a file name. Seems like something that would be easy to automate if you already have the capability of handling local files. >Generally, I prefer to spring for the long distance phone call unless I'm >in a airplane (or I can use our INWATS). Somebody has to pay for the wats access, and there is always the case where you want to grab your mailbox as you leave so you can read it offline on the plane. A UQWK/SOUP sort of intermediate batch file would be nice. There are other programs to use that method, but then you have to change interfaces when you connect back to the network. Les Mikesell les@mcs.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 03:29:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08590; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:29:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24287; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:10:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24281; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:10:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgVwQ-00038HC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: Help with pine 3.91 on Netcom Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 10:54:03 GMT Status: O X-Status: Ken Malvino (badwine@netcom.com) decia: : I am interested in the updated version 3.91 to use instead of 3.89. : Netcom has declined to do the upgrade. I have a basic dial up account : and want to use the most recent version of pine. Is this possible??? : Please E-mail me at badwine@netcom.com with any helpful information. : ken netcom at least should have let you know of the nuglops groups. Nuglops is a group of users that make some programs available for the rest of the netcom community. If you are a netcom subscriber... you can get pine 3.91 by typing at your prompt: /usr/local/nuglops/bin/pine or make an alias alias pine /usr/local/nuglops/bin/pine in your .cshrc file btw... to use the newest version of pico... use the same path... /usr/local/nuglops/bin/pico or do an alias alias pico /usr/local/nuglops/bin/pico also... do read the internal newsgroup: netcom.nuglops.software and other netcom newsgroups. pucho (the keeper of nuglops' pico) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 03:44:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09105; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:44:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22201; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:21:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22195; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:21:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgW6i-00038DC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kase@celsiustech.se (Karl-Olov Serrander) Subject: Pine-3.91 and Solaris 2.4(Sparc) and gcc Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 11:05:09 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have a problem building pine-3.91 on Solaris 2.4 Sparc with gcc-2.6.3. When compiling addrbook.c i get warnings "conflicting type" for memcpy, strcmp, memcmp, strcmp. These are usually no problem. But i also get "conflicting type" for rename. And "previous declaration" which gives a "make: Error 1" Any ideas ? -- Karl-Olov Serrander kase@celsiustech.se CelsiusTech AB, J{rf{lla, Sweden From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 03:46:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09146; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:46:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24478; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:25:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24472; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:25:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgW9e-00038QC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: How to:Newsreader Killfile? Message-Id: References: <3i3pau$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 11:06:21 GMT Status: O X-Status: Wet-Sprocket (shrim@worf.ocis.temple.edu) decia: : Comes here Mr. Matt Schnierle with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in : this article on 16 Feb 1995 00:39:04 GMT: : + I'm new to both UNIX and Pine and cannot figure out how to set up a "kill" : + file type setup in Pine. Specifically, I would like to only see articles : + of a particular subject in a particular newsgroup. How might I set this : + up? Any advice, suggestions, flames, whatever will be appreciated. Thanks. : 'kill' filter option is not avail. in Pine as yet. true... but... read the question... instead of "kill", you can use select and then zoom. use ; (select) then t (text) s (subject) , input the name of the subject and then z (zoom)... you will only see articles regarding that subject... which is like killing all others... Or..if you want to "kill" certain person... use ; t t (to) then input the name of the person and then use A (action on selected articles) and D (delete)... after that, use X... answer Y(yes)... and all articles from that person will "disappear". NOt the same than a killfile (is not completely automatic)... but handy anyway... (would it be possible to develop a pearl script to act as killfile?) pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 04:22:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10281; Mon, 20 Feb 95 04:22:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22606; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:55:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22600; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:55:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgWfa-00038UC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 03:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dave Saville Subject: Re: Saving mail to floppy? Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 11:13:08 +0000 Message-Id: References: <3i3sdl$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3i3sdl$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 18 Feb 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Comes here Mr. J. Wagner with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in this > article on 15 Feb 1995 23:24:33 -0800: > > + Is it possible to save e-mail to floppy...preferrably in a text format > + that could be accessed by Wordperfect? If so how do I do it? > + Needless to say I'm using Pine. :) > > Pine saves mail as a flatfile which can be downloaded to the localdrive > either using ftp or some serial based comm.pkg which can later be edited > by yes...Wordperfect. NB - I have done this from pine 3.91 on a sun box to floppy using Export. Now the odd bit. When I tried to import it into wordperfect 6.0a, wp said it needed converting. No suprise there it was a flat file. However wp insisted it was in wp 4.2 format or something. I said no its a flat ascii file. Upon loading it was all continuous text with smilies. I tried again and let wp have its own way and it loaded fine! David C. Saville savild@gatwick.Geco-Prakla.slb.com Geco-Prakla, Schlumberger House, Buckingham Gate, Gatwick Airport, West Sussex. RH6 0NZ UK. Tel: +44 1293 556326 Happiness is a binary state. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 05:51:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12320; Mon, 20 Feb 95 05:51:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26166; Mon, 20 Feb 95 05:26:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26160; Mon, 20 Feb 95 05:26:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgY4R-00038DC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 05:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Directory search bug in pico Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 13:22:14 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: One of my users reported a bug in pico, as follows. =================================================== I've just played with pico. It seems to do some very weird things if you try navigating round the directories using ^R ^T. In particular, it doesn't show any files in /tmp, and just a few in /var/tmp. However, doing a straight insert quoting the full pathname seems to work. Trying to use ^R^T on bootes (on e machine on the cluster) just crashed Pico. Looks like there's a bug there somewhere. ==================================================== This sounds very much like a problem reported recently; was there a fix posted? ======================================================================= Barry Landy, Head of Systems and Development, University of Cambridge Computing Service Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk 0-1223-334713 +44-1223-334713 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 06:45:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13353; Mon, 20 Feb 95 06:45:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24614; Mon, 20 Feb 95 06:15:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24608; Mon, 20 Feb 95 06:15:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgYmZ-00038QC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 06:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: question: pine's "save as" ? Date: 20 Feb 1995 08:08:06 -0600 Message-Id: <9502201412.AA14061@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , you write: |> Can I save an email, under a new subject line |> ie. present "RE: your mail" subject: line, saved as anything slightly |> more descriptive. ? I am using pine v3.91... Forward the e-mail to yourself and edit the Subject line From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 07:03:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13689; Mon, 20 Feb 95 07:03:18 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27154; Mon, 20 Feb 95 06:40:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27148; Mon, 20 Feb 95 06:40:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgZCJ-00038SC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 06:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "W F (Will) Sill" Subject: PRINT TO PAPER NOT SCREEN Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 14:27:41 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: PROBLEM: From Pine, "Y" prints to SCREEN instead of 'attached to ANSI desktop printer' chosen in setup. This is not a PINE problem, because it works OK at home but at the moment I am logged in on the office system. Comments please to Keith Jones - ncs@epix.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 07:33:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14271; Mon, 20 Feb 95 07:33:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25302; Mon, 20 Feb 95 07:10:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25296; Mon, 20 Feb 95 07:10:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgZhT-00038FC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 07:06 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: qq11@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew) Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 and MH folders Message-Id: References: <3i00es$fi@mhost.ida.his.se> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 14:45:40 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 16 Feb 1995 17:02:20 GMT , Henrik Nordstrom (henrik@ida.his.se) wrote: : I am configuring pine at our site, and have some problems : with MH folders. : 1. pine can't create new folders I know, a real problem. It can delete them in some cases. Try postponing mail... : 2. pine refuses to list my inbox mh folder : I have found two ways arounds on this : a. Name the inbox folder #mh/inbox[] : This have one large problem: How do I do a inc from pine??? : b. Use goto to open #mh/inbox[] The following has always worked for me: inbox-path=#mh/inbox To `inc' , either use inc which is a kludge or #MHINBOX (from mh.c) though I'm not sure if this works... -- Alan Thew alan.thew@liv.ac.uk ...!uknet!liv!alan.thew Tel: +44 151 794-4497 University of Liverpool, Computing Services Fax: +44 151 794-4442 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 08:46:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15894; Mon, 20 Feb 95 08:46:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28459; Mon, 20 Feb 95 08:19:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28453; Mon, 20 Feb 95 08:19:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rganG-00038DC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 08:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bob@hobbes.dtcc.edu (Bob Rahe) Subject: Re: Help compiling pine for solaris 2.3 on Sparc 1000 Date: 20 Feb 1995 15:36:16 GMT Message-Id: <3iactg$81f@hopi.dtcc.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: In article , Carter Stein wrote: > >I ran the command "build sol" to build pine for solaris 2.3 on the S1000. >But, make gave a Fatal Error for addrbook.o. > >Can anyone send me some e-mail hints about what may need to be tweeked? > >If things work out, I'll send the solution... Here are my notes for building on an ss1000 Solaris 2.3. You should use the sv4 makefile: --------- Begin notes..... ----- Turn off DEBUG in the makefile.sv4 for pine In pine/headers.h, move the osdep.h and mail.h include to right after the stdio include. This avoids a problem with a different redef of the rename function. Set user-domain=your.domain.name in pine.conf.fixed (Solaris won't get the FQDN). In pine/reply.c generate_message-id, use maildomain not hostname >>> In c-client/tcp_unix.c (imap/non-ANSI/c-client) init the localhostname to maildomain. But since this isn't really possible without much grief, hard code the *)&^%#%&^%T*& ------ End notes..... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- |Bob Rahe, Delaware Tech&Comm College | AIDS, Drugs, Abortion: - | |Computer Center, Dover, Delaware | - Don't liberals just kill you?| |Internet: bob@hobbes.dtcc.edu |Save whales; and kill babies? | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 08:58:24 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16140; Mon, 20 Feb 95 08:58:24 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26376; Mon, 20 Feb 95 08:34:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [168.166.0.67] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26370; Mon, 20 Feb 95 08:34:37 -0800 Received: by services (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA24010; Mon, 20 Feb 1995 10:33:51 +0600 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 10:33:50 -0600 (CST) From: James Proffer To: Gregory Trubetskoy Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Compuserve addresses (comma) ? In-Reply-To: <3i6m3o$5lq@news.cais.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 887 Status: O X-Status: When sending e-mail to CIS replace the , with a . For example my CI$ userid 70252,1522 becomes 70252.1522 Hope this helps. James Missouri State Data Center <*>James Proffer: UNIX sysadm The Source for Missouri State | Phone: (314) 751-1544 Fax: (314) 751-3299 Government Information | Internet: jproffer@services.state.mo.us Gopher: TBA | jproffer@services.more.net WWW: http://www.ecodev.state.mo.us/mohome.htm On 19 Feb 1995, Gregory Trubetskoy wrote: > I'm having hard time sending e-mail to people with Compuserve addresses. > Pine doesn't like the comma in them. Is there a way around this? > > Please e-mail me... > > Thank You! > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Gregory Trubetskoy grisha@cais.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 09:29:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17154; Mon, 20 Feb 95 09:29:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26968; Mon, 20 Feb 95 09:04:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26962; Mon, 20 Feb 95 09:04:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgbV6-00038QC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 09:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhallen@world.std.com (Joseph H Allen) Subject: Re: "pico -w" and long lines Message-Id: References: <1995Feb11.124954.23177@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> <1995Feb19.193938.9282@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 16:54:53 GMT Status: O X-Status: In article <1995Feb19.193938.9282@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, David Edwards wrote: >David Edwards (edwards%teaching.physics@ox.ac.uk) wrote: >> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > >> > Pico can only read lines of 256 or less characters. It can create lines >> > of any (?) length though... >> Is this likely to be changed? Many people (including myself) use Pico as >> as an editor to go with Tin, to provide a consistent editing environment >> between news and mail. When following up to an article in a long thread, >> the References: header can get rather long, and Pico happily wraps it >> when the article is loaded in, meaning the two lines have to be manually >> joined to prevent all the headers getting messed up. >I wrote this a while back but still no reply... You may wish to try my editor JOE (available by anonymous from ftp.std.com, file: src/editors/joe2.8.tar.Z). Joe includes 'jpico'- an improved version of pico. 'jpico' does not have any line length restrictions and has many other improvements (for example, the row and column number are displayed on the status line and the paragraph reformatter can handle quoted news matter). -- /* jhallen@world.std.com (192.74.137.5) */ /* Joseph H. Allen */ int a[1817];main(z,p,q,r){for(p=80;q+p-80;p-=2*a[p])for(z=9;z--;)q=3&(r=time(0) +r*57)/7,q=q?q-1?q-2?1-p%79?-1:0:p%79-77?1:0:p<1659?79:0:p>158?-79:0,q?!a[p+q*2 ]?a[p+=a[p+=q]=q]=q:0:0;for(;q++-1817;)printf(q%79?"%c":"%c\n"," #"[!a[q-1]]);} From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 09:52:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17662; Mon, 20 Feb 95 09:52:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29575; Mon, 20 Feb 95 09:24:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29569; Mon, 20 Feb 95 09:24:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgbmw-00038HC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 09:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: NHILTON@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (nelson hilton) Subject: save, rename inbox as file? Date: Mon, 20 Feb 95 12:06:02 EST Message-Id: <1734BAA2D.NHILTON@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Status: O X-Status: Well, the inbox is getting pretty large, & while I've figured out how to deal with individual messages, I'm wondering if I could just save the whole thing as a file and start afresh. Sorry if I'm overlooking the obvious... Many thanks, Nelson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 09:53:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17691; Mon, 20 Feb 95 09:53:05 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27232; Mon, 20 Feb 95 09:25:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tucana.dur.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27226; Mon, 20 Feb 95 09:25:53 -0800 Received: from venus.dur.ac.uk by tucana.dur.ac.uk id (8.6.9/ for dur.ac.uk) with SMTP; Mon, 20 Feb 1995 17:25:18 GMT Received: from hercules (hercules.dur.ac.uk) by venus.dur.ac.uk; Mon, 20 Feb 95 17:15:39 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 16:15:11 +0000 (GMT) From: Barry Cornelius To: Chip Old Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine concatenates messages In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 0 Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 4 Feb 1995 bcraft@darwin.bio.uci.edu wrote: > I am using Pine 3.91 on a system with SunOS 4.1.3. In a seemingly random > fashion Pine will add a new incoming message to the last message that came in. > I have found as many as 5 seperate messages (coming from different people) > all strung together into one message. It doesn't seem to happen in a > consistant fashion ie. sometimes all of the messages are separate and > sometimes some of the messages are combined while others are separate. ... Chip Old replied: > I've seen that a few times, too, with Pine 3.91 running on our SunSparc > Server under Solaris 2.3. It has happened only a couple of times that I'm > aware of (who knows how many users didn't bother to report it), and I > haven't noticed any pattern to it. The concatenated messages seem to have > nothing in common other than the fact that their received dates are > consecutive. ... This sounds a bit like something we've had about three or four times. In the index the size of a message was very high, whereas when it was viewed it was not as long. An inspection of the mailbox (using vi) showed that the message being displayed was followed by a number of messages not in the mailbox. If you use vi to edit the mailbox in some way (e.g., by replacing the first character by itself), the mailbox shrunk in size typically by 160 characters. I assume that for some reason null characters are in the mailbox which got removed by the use of vi (but I haven't found a good way of displaying nulls so I'm not really that sure). If they are nulls, then I don't know who is to blame for the null characters. BTW, elm seems to see all of the messages. -- Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 Academic Support Group, IT Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 11:59:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20866; Mon, 20 Feb 95 11:59:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29079; Mon, 20 Feb 95 11:34:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29073; Mon, 20 Feb 95 11:34:43 -0800 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA23921; Mon, 20 Feb 1995 13:36:03 +0100 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 13:36:03 +0100 (MET) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: Forwarding to a Nickname Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello Pine-Info!! I want to set up an account that will forward any mail it receives to a "nickname" (distribution group) set up via pine. Can this be done? How?? Thanks, Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 12:45:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22301; Mon, 20 Feb 95 12:45:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02381; Mon, 20 Feb 95 12:28:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tomobiki-cho.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02375; Mon, 20 Feb 95 12:28:06 -0800 Received: from UW-Gateway.Panda.COM by Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (NX5.67e/UW-NDC Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA04801; Mon, 20 Feb 95 12:27:57 -0800 Received: from localhost by Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (NX5.67e/UW-NDC/Panda Revision: 2.27.MRC ) id AA10203; Mon, 20 Feb 95 12:27:44 -0800 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 12:25:16 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine concatenates messages To: Barry Cornelius Cc: Chip Old , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: There is a known bug in Pine 3.91 which Pine's "find next message" code is confused by the presence of NUL characters in the mailbox. This bug is fixed in Pine 3.92, which should be released in the not-too-distant future. If you want to fix the bug in your own copy of Pine 3.91, get the latest IMAP toolkit (mail/imap.tar.Z from ftp.cac.washington.edu -- yes, you do want the 3.6-BETA version) and substitute it in place of the 3.5 IMAP toolkit that is bundled with Pine 3.91. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 13:30:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24033; Mon, 20 Feb 95 13:30:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00931; Mon, 20 Feb 95 13:15:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00924; Mon, 20 Feb 95 13:15:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgfN0-00038SC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 13:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine concatenates messages Date: 20 Feb 95 21:11:37 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk (Barry Cornelius) writes: [...] >This sounds a bit like something we've had about three or four times. >In the index the size of a message was very high, whereas when it was >viewed it was not as long. An inspection of the mailbox (using vi) showed >that the message being displayed was followed by a number of messages not >in the mailbox. >If you use vi to edit the mailbox in some way (e.g., by replacing the >first character by itself), the mailbox shrunk in size typically by 160 >characters. I assume that for some reason null characters are in the >mailbox which got removed by the use of vi (but I haven't found a good way >of displaying nulls so I'm not really that sure). vi may be truncating messages. It would be safer to less the mailbox to see what the end of the message looks like. If you want to look for nulls, then od -ac on SunOS will show them, as will emacs I believe. >If they are nulls, then I don't know who is to blame for the null >characters. BTW, elm seems to see all of the messages. >-- >Barry Cornelius Telephone: (0191 or +44 191) 374 4717 >Academic Support Group, IT Service, IT Service Office: 374 2892 >Science Site, University of Durham, Fax: 374 3741 >Durham, DH1 3LE, UK E-mail: Barry.Cornelius@durham.ac.uk -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 14:40:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26095; Mon, 20 Feb 95 14:40:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04347; Mon, 20 Feb 95 14:22:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from duckabush.amath.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04341; Mon, 20 Feb 95 14:22:11 -0800 Received: by duckabush.amath.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.21 ) id AA25175; Mon, 20 Feb 1995 14:22:00 -0800 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 14:21:56 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Stern Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, gifford@umich.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine Composer as Pnews replacement In-Reply-To: <3i19oh$83h@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 17 Feb 1995, Scott Gifford wrote: > The Pine composer has a very clever way of integrating the mail/news > header and the message body. Is there any way to invoke the composer, > with the headers, on a news article from a newsreader other than Pine? > I'd like some way to set it up as an editor, so when I reply to a news > article in tin (or in some other newsreader) it fills out the header > part, then tosses me into the editor, and when I'm done creates a very > attractive news message suitable for sending to inews. > > If there's no good way, anybody got any good ideas for a hack? :) > > ------Scott. > Have you tried reading your news in Pine? That seems the easiest. If not, you could read your news using "gnus" in Emacs, which has even _more_ clever ways of inserting the article being replied to. -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 15:47:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27545; Mon, 20 Feb 95 15:47:00 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02928; Mon, 20 Feb 95 15:25:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02922; Mon, 20 Feb 95 15:25:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rghTe-00038TC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 15:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fishbowl@frodo.pic.net (fishbowl) Subject: pine 3.91 - where? Date: 20 Feb 1995 22:15:09 GMT Message-Id: <3ib49d$ibp@gandalf.pic.net> Status: O X-Status: I need to find pine.3.91. The archive at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine are corrupted according to my software. I ftp'd the archive and the compressed binary, several times, to be sure of this. (I think this needs to be reported to uwashington..) Regards, James From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 15:48:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27597; Mon, 20 Feb 95 15:48:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05337; Mon, 20 Feb 95 15:30:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05325; Mon, 20 Feb 95 15:30:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rghXv-00038TC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 15:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevelar@texas.net (Steve Larson) Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp server... Date: 20 Feb 1995 22:12:31 GMT Message-Id: <3ib44f$d4l@empire.texas.net> References: <3i3sru$bid@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Status: O X-Status: > >Is there anyother site wher one could get PC-PINE? > >Thanks Try ftp.sunet.se Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 16:11:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28212; Mon, 20 Feb 95 16:11:09 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05656; Mon, 20 Feb 95 15:51:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from duckabush.amath.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05650; Mon, 20 Feb 95 15:51:49 -0800 Received: by duckabush.amath.washington.edu (5.65/UW-NDC Revision: 2.21 ) id AA25579; Mon, 20 Feb 1995 15:51:48 -0800 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 15:51:46 -0800 (PST) From: Ted Stern Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: prompt for alternate editor Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: It seems to me that there used to be a prompt for the alternate editor in Pine 3.89, but there isn't now. In other words, when I hit ^_, I used to get something like Edit using alternate editor: emacs with the cursor positioned after the end of the editor name. I really liked this, because it allowed me to switch editors depending on various conditions. It would also be the easiest way to use ispell. But now I just get automatic insertion into the alternate editor. This seems to go against the principle of Pine asking you whether you want to do something unless you explicitly turn that reminder off. Am I missing some feature setting somewhere? -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 16:57:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29291; Mon, 20 Feb 95 16:57:06 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04007; Mon, 20 Feb 95 16:40:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04001; Mon, 20 Feb 95 16:40:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgid9-00038UC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 16:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joe Ducharme Subject: Error: access list Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 15:57:42 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: One of our customers has been getting this error recently when he goes between his folders: "502 You are not on my access list...goodbye" Any clue as to it's meaning? Thanks loads!....laters..... *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* *: Joe Ducharme jduche@creighton.edu :* *: Creighton University Omaha, NE USA 68178 :* *: << Joe's Roadside Attraction >> :* *: << http://bluejay.creighton.edu/~jduche/ >> :* *: "Time flies like an arrow, Fruit flies like a banana." :* *:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:*:* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 17:43:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01383; Mon, 20 Feb 95 17:43:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07319; Mon, 20 Feb 95 17:23:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07313; Mon, 20 Feb 95 17:23:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgjDq-00038gC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 17:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alb@slug.uvm.edu (Allan L. Bazinet) Subject: Pine/AIX looping fix Message-Id: <1995Feb20.020421.13527@emba.uvm.edu> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 02:04:21 GMT Status: O X-Status: We have found the following patch against Pine 3.91's pine/ttyin.c to be effective in dramatically reducing pine loops on our AIX 3.2.5 systems. Your mileage may vary; this is only one of several modifications to Pine. We haven't a clue as to why the patch is effective, nor do we care. We have examined .pine-debug files ad nauseum, dealt with a trace interface that is far from friendly to humans, and run pine under a debugger until grey matter dripped from our earlobes. In the end, we determined that the SIGHUP handler appeared to be working while the select/read EOF/error code in ttyin.c seemed to be getting into trouble. We therefore bagged the troublesome code in favor of signals.c's version of a bailout. alb *** ttyin.c.orig Sun Feb 19 20:43:35 1995 --- ttyin.c Sun Feb 19 20:43:53 1995 *************** *** 386,413 **** if(res <= 0) { /* Got an error reading from the terminal. Treat this like a SIGHUP: clean up and exit. */ - dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n\n** Error reading from tty : %s\n\n", - error_description(errno))); ! if(errno == EINTR) ! return(NO_OP_COMMAND); ! if(ps_global->inbox_stream != NULL){ ! if(ps_global->inbox_stream == ps_global->mail_stream) ! ps_global->mail_stream = NULL; ! mail_close(ps_global->inbox_stream); ! } ! if(ps_global->mail_stream != NULL && ! ps_global->mail_stream != ps_global->inbox_stream) ! mail_close(ps_global->mail_stream); ! ! MoveCursor(ps_global->ttyo->screen_rows -1, 0); ! NewLine(); ! end_keyboard(F_ON(F_USE_FK,ps_global)); ! end_tty_driver(ps_global); ! printf("\n\n\nPine finished. Error reading from terminal: %s\n", ! error_description(errno)); ! exit(0); } return((int)c); --- 386,407 ---- if(res <= 0) { /* Got an error reading from the terminal. Treat this like a SIGHUP: clean up and exit. */ ! if(errno == EINTR) ! return(NO_OP_COMMAND); ! if (res == 0) ! dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n\n** EOF on input tty.\n\n")); ! else ! dprint(1, (debugfile, "\n\n** Error reading from tty : %s\n\n", ! error_description(errno))); ! ! end_signals(1); ! fast_clean_up(); ! ! printf("\n\n\nPine finished. Error reading from terminal: %s\n", ! error_description(errno)); ! exit(0); } return((int)c); ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Allan L. Bazinet Ph: (802)656-8785 Computing & Information Technology FAX:(802)656-8148 University of Vermont "We look for things" email: alb@uvmvm.uvm.edu Burlington, VT 05405-0160 "to make us go." alb@slug.uvm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 20 18:51:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02873; Mon, 20 Feb 95 18:51:47 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05890; Mon, 20 Feb 95 18:33:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05884; Mon, 20 Feb 95 18:33:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgkIJ-00038WC; Mon, 20 Feb 95 18:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: prompt for alternate editor Date: 21 Feb 95 02:13:46 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Ted Stern writes: >It seems to me that there used to be a prompt for the alternate editor in >Pine 3.89, but there isn't now. In other words, when I hit ^_, I used to >get something like > Edit using alternate editor: emacs >with the cursor positioned after the end of the editor name. I really >liked this, because it allowed me to switch editors depending on various >conditions. It would also be the easiest way to use ispell. >But now I just get automatic insertion into the alternate editor. This >seems to go against the principle of Pine asking you whether you want to >do something unless you explicitly turn that reminder off. This is the single greatest feature of 3.91, IMHO. Pico is close enough to jove and emacs to constantly confuse me, and now I can just use jove. Check for the setting of the "enable-alternate-editor-implicitly" variable and a couple of other related ones. >Am I missing some feature setting somewhere? > -- Ted > ============================================================================ > Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 > stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington > http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 > ============================================================================ -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 04:55:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17049; Tue, 21 Feb 95 04:55:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16908; Tue, 21 Feb 95 04:41:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16902; Tue, 21 Feb 95 04:41:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgtrT-00038LC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 04:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfiresto@interserv.com (David L. Bergart) Subject: cmsg cancel <3hugq6$7ao@moon.earthlink.net> Control: cancel <3hugq6$7ao@moon.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 19:45:46 +8 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: -- ____D__a__v__i__d_____B__e__r__g__a__r__t___________________________________ bodafu@ccvax.sinica.edu.tw From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 08:27:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22764; Tue, 21 Feb 95 08:27:07 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17075; Tue, 21 Feb 95 08:06:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is1.hk.super.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17061; Tue, 21 Feb 95 08:06:05 -0800 Received: by is1.hk.super.net id AA18331 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 22 Feb 1995 00:04:26 +0800 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 00:04:26 +0800 (HKT) From: Kevin Yeung To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Important flag Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi all, In Pine 3.91 you can flag mails important but what's the use of it? The asterisk looks like the plus sign on my EWAN telnet client and Pine does not attempt to stop you from deleting important mails. Will newer Pine ask the user if she really wants to delete an important mail? -- Kevin Yeung email: keviny@hk.super.net email: keviny@hk.linkage.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 08:46:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23644; Tue, 21 Feb 95 08:46:13 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17638; Tue, 21 Feb 95 08:32:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17632; Tue, 21 Feb 95 08:32:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgxT3-00038UC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 08:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laskin@contra.seas.upenn.edu (Mike Laskin) Subject: Date problems in From: Date: 21 Feb 1995 16:05:16 GMT Message-Id: <3id2vs$9gg@netnews.upenn.edu> Status: O X-Status: I have been struggling with my mail system headers: >From rown@rown Mon Feb 20 13:01 EST 1995 Posted-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 13:01:10 -0500 Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 13:01:10 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 12:57:06 +0000 All the times are fine except for Date: field. Its timezone info is set to GMT in that field for some reason (-0500 is the East Coast). The system date is fine: $ date Mon Feb 20 19:38:25 EST 1995 It is a pain since when elm sorts the messages on my recipients systems it sorts by the Date: field so they have messages coming in after messages sent out 3 hours earlier. Any ideas on a fix would be greatly appreciated. I use pine 3.89 under Linux with a 1.1.72 kernel. BTW: It works fine if I use elm or Berkeley Mail to send stuff out. Thanks Mike laskin@seas.upenn.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 10:35:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29581; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:35:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20951; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:23:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20945; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:23:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgzC6-00038UC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@whacked.dorm.lsu.edu (Ben Curtis) Subject: Filtering Date: 21 Feb 1995 17:15:06 GMT Message-Id: <3id72q$9pq@deathstar.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: Can someone point me to info on filtering? Specifically, I'm running Linux, grabbing my mail from a POP server via popclient. I want to filter mail from certain addresses (mailing lists) into various folders. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Just another random thought... bcurtis@cris.com, http://www.cris.com/~bcurtis I speak for myself coz I don't work for anyone - Finger for my PGP key. Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 10:35:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29602; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:35:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24279; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:18:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24273; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:18:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgz5s-00038UC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gildas PERROT Subject: email addresses unsensitive to uppercase Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 12:43:51 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I would like to make our email addresses (both *username* and *domainname*) insensitive to uppercase characters. I mean that I want to make possible that people use the address Perrot@GRBB.PolyMtl.ca (for example) instead of perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca. I make this possible for local adresses (ex : Perrot instead of perrot) by removing the 'u' F flag in the line below : #Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=EDFMlsmu, S=10, R=20, A=mail -s -d $u Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=EDFMlsm, S=10, R=20, A=mail -s -d $u I tried to modify the Mether line without success : #Mether, P=[IPC], F=mDFMXCu, S=11, R=21, E=\r\n, A=IPC $h Mether, P=[IPC], F=mDFMXC, S=11, R=21, E=\r\n, A=IPC $h Any idea about that ? Thanks in advance. Gildas. # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada ------ \<, # Tel: (514) 340-4184 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (*)/ (*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 10:41:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29813; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:41:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24481; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:28:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24475; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:28:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgzHH-00038UC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 10:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eei@ios.com (Louis Pinzon) Subject: Need Pine Info. Date: 21 Feb 1995 16:26:43 GMT Message-Id: <3id483$cb2@ankh.iia.org> Status: O X-Status: Our company will soon be installing a new Unix based computer system running System V version 4.2. The E-mail interface of the new system is not very friendly. I've been using Pine with my internet service provider for the past couple of months and it seems easy enough to use. I have heard that this E-mail program is shareware. Does anyone out there know how to go about getting this program and who to contact? Please E-mail your reply to eei@ios.com. Thanks very much. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 11:21:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02404; Tue, 21 Feb 95 11:21:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22078; Tue, 21 Feb 95 11:09:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22070; Tue, 21 Feb 95 11:09:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rgztI-00038UC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 11:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Brad Subject: Re: Compuserve addresses (comma) ? Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 18:18:42 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3i6m3o$5lq@news.cais.com> Status: O X-Status: From the Internet, you should replace the comma with a period. ___ _ _a' /( <. Simon Bradley, Knight Protector! / __><_>._ _ _ ___ ._ _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) E-mail: syb3@aber.ac.uk \__ \| || ' ' |/ . \| ' | \(._(.)' Finger: syb3@osfb.aber.ac.uk <___/|_||_|_|_|\___/|_|_| ._>. _>. WWW: http://www.aber.ac.uk/~syb3/ On 19 Feb 1995, Gregory Trubetskoy wrote: > I'm having hard time sending e-mail to people with Compuserve addresses. > Pine doesn't like the comma in them. Is there a way around this? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 13:00:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07732; Tue, 21 Feb 95 13:00:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25355; Tue, 21 Feb 95 12:48:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25349; Tue, 21 Feb 95 12:48:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh1PP-00038WC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 12:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pej@chrh.org (Paul Jones) Subject: Ordering saved messages Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 17:18:32 GMT Status: O X-Status: He everyone! Does anyone know if there is a way to get pine to save messages with the newest message at the front instead of appending them to the end of a mailbox file? Thanks! Paul -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul E. Jones paulej@aol.com or pej@chrh.org "These are my opinions. They might not be much, but they're all mine!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 13:06:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08584; Tue, 21 Feb 95 13:06:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28844; Tue, 21 Feb 95 12:48:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28838; Tue, 21 Feb 95 12:48:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh1PN-00038VC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 12:42 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pej@chrh.org (Paul Jones) Subject: Distribution: header line? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 15:05:07 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi everyone! I noticed that PINE was not putting "Distribution:" headers in news articles. Thinking this might be a problem, I noticed that _many_ people do not use "Distribution:" headers. Is this an obsolete header line or is "world" the default when one is not otherwise specified? Thanks! Paul Jones -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul E. Jones paulej@aol.com or pej@chrh.org "These are my opinions. They might not be much, but they're all mine!" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 13:48:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10365; Tue, 21 Feb 95 13:48:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00114; Tue, 21 Feb 95 13:30:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nscsgi.nscedu.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00105; Tue, 21 Feb 95 13:29:58 -0800 Message-Id: <9502212129.AA00105@mx1.cac.washington.edu> Subject: internet mail problems To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 15:32:30 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin L. Buterbaugh" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 2769 Status: O X-Status: I am attempting to install and configure pine 3.91 on an NCR 3000 system running SVR4 and am experiencing problems. I have it installed (I did a build sv4 after modifying the os-sv4.h file to reflect where to find sendmail). I can send mail locally and to anybody in our /etc/hosts file. However, mail going out over the internet gets bounced back as follows (I have deleted parts for brevity's sake): >From daemon Tue Feb 21 20:58 GMT 1995 Return-Path: MAILER-DAEMON Received: from localhost (localhost) by nscsgi.nscedu.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with internal id UAA14361; Tue, 21 Feb 1995 20:58:17 GMT Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 20:58:17 GMT From: Subject: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: sun.com.: host not found) Message-Id: <199502212058.UAA14361@nscsgi.nscedu.com> To: kevinb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="UAA14361.793400297/nscsgi.nscedu.com" Content-Length: 1349 Status: RO X-Status: This is a MIME-encapsulated message --UAA14361.793400297/nscsgi.nscedu.com The original message was received at Tue, 21 Feb 1995 20:58:05 GMT from kevinb@localhost ----- The following addresses had delivery problems ----- edu_seats@sun.com (unrecoverable error) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 501 edu_seats@sun.com... 550 Host unknown (Name server: sun.com.: host not found) ----- Original message follows ----- --UAA14361.793400297/nscsgi.nscedu.com Content-Type: message/rfc822 Return-Path: kevinb Received: (from kevinb@localhost) by nscsgi.nscedu.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) id UAA14358; Tue, 21 Feb 1995 20:58:05 GMT Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 14:57:59 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin L. Buterbaugh" X-Sender: kevinb@nscsgi To: edu_seats@sun.com Subject: seats Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII --UAA14361.793400297/nscsgi.nscedu.com-- I also have elm 2.4 installed and it is working perfectly. That leads me to believe the problem is not with DNS or sendmail. I am an inexperienced, and rusty, C programmer and therefore am concerned that I may have missed something when I compiled pine. I have read the technical notes, have run pine at debug level 9, and have been unsuccessful in tracking the problem. If anyone has any ideas, I would really appreciate the help. Thank you in advance... -- =========================================================================== Kevin L. Buterbaugh NSC Systems Group, Inc. E-mail: kevinb@nscedu.com 624 Grassmere Park Drive Phone: (615)832-1202 Suite 30 Fax: (615)832-6508 Nashville, TN 37211 "Unix is the worst operating system in the whole world, except for all the rest!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 14:22:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12155; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:22:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00863; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:03:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00856; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:03:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh2ea-00038VC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dpeoples@artsci.wustl.edu (David Andrew Peoples) Subject: Pine/Pico screen problem Date: 21 Feb 1995 17:41:35 GMT Message-Id: <3id8kf$70q@newsreader.wustl.edu> Status: O X-Status: I am testing a copy of Pine 3.91 compiled for SCO Unix. I'm having a small problem with the menu at the bottom of the screen. When moving to the edit mode (such as picking 'C' from the main menu) the screen seems to switch to 24-line mode. Whatever text had been drawn on the bottom (25th) line remains visible, and the current menu is drawn on the 23rd and 24th lines. Doing a screen refresh (^L) doesn't fix the problem. Leaving edit mode does fix it. Running Pico from the command line shows the same thing -- it uses only 24 lines of the available 25. This isn't a problem from the command line, of course. I've tested this on the console and on a terminal emulator (TinyTerm Plus) in SCO-ANSI and VT-100 modes. The problem exists on the console and the emulated ANSI, but NOT the VT-100 mode. I'm running SCO Open Server 3.0.0. I'm using the stock termcap and terminfo descriptions for ansi and vt100 as delivered by SCO. Is there a configuration switch for Pico I've missed? David Peoples From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 14:29:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12414; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:29:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27049; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:01:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from oistrakh.msen.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27043; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:01:39 -0800 Received: from garnet.msen.com (garnet.msen.com [148.59.1.11]) by oistrakh.msen.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA21344 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 1995 17:01:34 -0500 Received: by garnet.msen.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #12) id m0rh2eG-0013BPC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 17:01 EST Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 17:01:36 -0500 (EST) From: Vince Vielhaber X-Sender: vev@garnet.msen.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: OS/2 and Pine Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Has anyone, or is anyone working, on a port to OS/2? I grabbed the source code today, but there was no pine-ports in the doc directory, and I didn't find the file on the ftp site either. If noone else is, I probably will. Thanks in advance for any info, Vince. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 14:59:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14175; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:59:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28016; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:43:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28010; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:43:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh39p-00038VC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:34 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs4.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: PROBLEM: Taking addresses in list mode Date: 21 Feb 1995 20:29:28 GMT Message-Id: <3idif8$js4@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hi, I was wondering if I might find some help here. I am using PINE 3.91 on an RS600 system (AIX V3). I run a mailing list where I am continually "taking" addresses to distribution lists. My problem is as follows: When the mail is addressed to -request (like it's supposed to be) or anything besides my own address) I can "take" the address using list mode ('L'). This will allow me to take the address and add it to the end of a distribution list. However, when someone uses *my* address, I cannot use the list mode. Is there anyway around this? At present I have to cut and paste those addresses into my addressbook, and it wastes so much time. Responses via mail would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help. :) -j- ______________________________________________________________________________ --- Stupidity got us into this mess -- why can't it get us out? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 15:05:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14456; Tue, 21 Feb 95 15:05:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01840; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:43:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01834; Tue, 21 Feb 95 14:43:26 -0800 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM ([3.12.38.33]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA00765 for ; Tue, 21 Feb 1995 17:43:24 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA01990; Tue, 21 Feb 95 17:41:47 EST Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 17:41:46 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: archive retrieval: best_of_procmail_list.gz (part 2 of 2) In-Reply-To: <9502212055.AA25979@campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: ARRGH! I just subscribed to the procmail list and requested the best_of... archive dump. I got a message back with the above subject, but the data was attached with a "[ Part 1: "Included Message" ] separator. When I tried to view the message in Pine, I got a Pine bug error and got dumped out of Pine. I also got a 9MB core dump. Question is, how do I read the enclosed message? TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 16:54:52 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21319; Tue, 21 Feb 95 16:54:52 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01075; Tue, 21 Feb 95 16:39:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01069; Tue, 21 Feb 95 16:39:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh50j-00038FC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 16:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: weltyrc@mail.auburn.edu (Ryan C. Welty) Subject: + Flag not quite right Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 21:21:50 GMT Status: O X-Status: Mail that is addressed only to me should have a + beside it right? I'm on one mailing list that puts my name in the to: field, and everything from it appears as personal mail. Today I got a message that was personal, but didn't have the + beside it. How does pine decide what gets a + and what doesn't? How can I fix it, at least for the one specific mailing list that now shows everything as personal? I'm using v3.91. Thanks, Ryan -- ============================================================================ | Ryan Welty H: 821.7458 W: 844.4059 | It is a wonderful, | | Chief Engineer kr4oq@bbs.k4ry.#cenal.al.usa | powerful place... | | WEGL FM91.1 weltyrc@mail.auburn.edu | where there is faith. | ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 17:05:47 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22563; Tue, 21 Feb 95 17:05:47 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05327; Tue, 21 Feb 95 16:53:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05321; Tue, 21 Feb 95 16:53:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh5CL-00038FC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 16:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmldhaywar@aol.com (MMLDHaywar) Subject: IMAP compile dies looking for lib shadow -- what and why? Date: 21 Feb 1995 16:05:25 -0500 Message-Id: <3idkil$8sb@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: Apologies that this is not strictly Pine, but I couldn't find a more likely place. I'm running Linux 1.0.9 from Slackware 2.1 I'm trying to compile the Washington IMAP distribution for Linux from sunsite. It dies looking for lib shadow. What is it? Where can I find it? What does it imply? I can't find any documentation on it. Thanks for any help or pointers. Don Hayward mmldhaywar@aol.com Mote Marine Laboratory, 1600 Thompson Parkway, Sarasota FL 34236 Voice: 813-388-4441 Fax: 813-388-4312 We are an independent, nonprofit marine and estuarine research and education facility. Opinions expressed herein are not those of MML unless specifically so indicated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 17:06:39 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22615; Tue, 21 Feb 95 17:06:39 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01450; Tue, 21 Feb 95 16:54:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01444; Tue, 21 Feb 95 16:54:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh5JM-00038HC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 16:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: I want a .newsrc with everything Date: 21 Feb 1995 15:38:33 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3i8peb$p41@news1.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: byrgb@millkern.digex.net (Byrg Bonnelycke) writes: >If I want to get a new .newsrc file, with ALL the some 10,000 newsgroup >names available to me on MY system, I: >1) delete MY current .newsrc file with the UNIX command: > rm .newsrc >2) call 'tin' with the UNIX command: > tin >3) exit tin IMMEDIATELY and return to the UNIX prompt with tin's > 'q' command >4) then search & edit the new COMPLETE .newsrc file with the vi-editor: > vi .newsrc Note that this method will only work if your sys admin has set tin up to subscribe to all groups if there is no .newsrc. Some sys admins set things up so that the default is to subscribe you to only local newsgroups and newuser newsgroups. I think there is a way to subscribe to everything from within tin - it involves using y to yank in all newsgroups. Maybe a tin user could post the instructions... -- /\_/\ Nancy McGough /\_/\ Vote for the humanities.misc @..@ ( o.o ) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) newsgroup! See my Web pages (----) > ~ < http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ^ < for details. ( >__< ) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 17:39:45 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23634; Tue, 21 Feb 95 17:39:45 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06158; Tue, 21 Feb 95 17:18:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06152; Tue, 21 Feb 95 17:18:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh5ez-00038FC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 17:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: neumann@lf.hp.com (Brian R. Neumann) Subject: Re: I want a .newsrc with everything Date: 22 Feb 1995 00:47:57 GMT Message-Id: <3ie1jt$2mq@hpavla.lf.hp.com> References: <3i8peb$p41@news1.digex.net> Status: O X-Status: Nancy McGough (nancym@ii.com) wrote: : I think there is a : way to subscribe to everything from within tin - it involves using : y to yank in all newsgroups. Maybe a tin user could post the : instructions... You're on the right track. At the newsgroup level, hit 'y' to yank in all news groups. Then use the 'S' command to subscribe to all groups matching a pattern which you'll then be prompted for. To subscribe to everything, use * Or limit to a hierarchy such as news.* The only problem with this method is speed. ( A big problem ). It will say "subscribing to xxx.xxx.xxx " slow enough to see each name! It'll take quite a while for 10000 groups! This is probably best used to subscribe to a subset of groups. Brian -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Brian R. Neumann | ***** ***** H E W L E T T | | UNIX Support Specialist | *** /_ __ *** P A C K A R D | | EMail: neumann@lf.hp.com | ** / / /_/ ** | | | *** / *** Little Falls | | | ***** ***** Site | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 18:20:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24855; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:20:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06964; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:02:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from solstice.ccs.unr.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06958; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:02:13 -0800 Received: from equinox.unr.edu (equinox.ccs.unr.edu) by solstice.ccs.unr.edu (4.1/1.34) id AA02649; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:01:14 PST Received: by equinox.unr.edu (5.67b/1.34) id AA26239; Tue, 21 Feb 1995 18:02:12 -0800 Message-Id: <199502220202.AA26239@equinox.unr.edu> From: malc@unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock) Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 18:02:12 -0800 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mail goes to News server in PINE 3.91 for Windows. WHY? Status: O X-Status: Several users at our site have had a recurring problem where PINE 3.91 for Windows tries to post a mail message they're sending to a news server instead of smtp-server, even if nntp-server, news-collections etc. are blank. If they keep retrying, the message is eventually SMTP'd, but they have to retry (CTRL-X again) dozens of times. As one might imagine, these users are quite frustrated. Can someone suggest how we can eliminate this problem? Thanks, Malcolm -- Malcolm L. Carlock UNR Unix Administration and Support --Email: malc@unr.edu or unr!malc or malc@equinox.bitnet --Voice: 702-784-4637 --Fax: 702-784-4050 --USMail: University of Nevada, Reno / Mailstop 180 / Reno / NV / 89557 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 18:35:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25354; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:35:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03186; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:20:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03180; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:20:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh6Zj-00038HC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 and MH folders Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 15:09:47 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3i00es$fi@mhost.ida.his.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Mon, 20 Feb 1995, Alan Thew wrote: > Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 14:45:40 GMT > From: Alan Thew > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Re: PINE 3.91 and MH folders > > On 16 Feb 1995 17:02:20 GMT , Henrik Nordstrom (henrik@ida.his.se) wrote: > : I am configuring pine at our site, and have some problems > : with MH folders. > > : 1. pine can't create new folders > I know, a real problem. It can delete them in some cases. Try postponing mail... > > : 2. pine refuses to list my inbox mh folder > : I have found two ways arounds on this > > : a. Name the inbox folder #mh/inbox[] > : This have one large problem: How do I do a inc from pine??? > > : b. Use goto to open #mh/inbox[] > > The following has always worked for me: > > inbox-path=#mh/inbox > > To `inc' , either use inc which is a kludge or #MHINBOX (from mh.c) though > I'm not sure if this works... > Pine does understand #MHINBOX, e.g. inbox-path=#MHINBOX |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 18:49:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25864; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:49:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07609; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:39:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07603; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:39:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh6v5-00038FC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 18:35 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP compile dies looking for lib shadow -- what and why? Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 14:44:34 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3idkil$8sb@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: libshadow is the Linux code that handles shadow passwords. Since this is standard in Linux, you may want to investigate why your Linux installation is incomplete. I am not a Linux expert, so I can not comment much further. The official location of the IMAP distribution is on ftp.cac.washington.edu. Any other locations may have out of date versions. -- Mark -- On 21 Feb 1995, MMLDHaywar wrote: > Apologies that this is not strictly Pine, but I couldn't find a more > likely place. > > I'm running Linux 1.0.9 from Slackware 2.1 > > I'm trying to compile the Washington IMAP distribution for Linux from > sunsite. It dies looking for lib shadow. What is it? Where can I find > it? What does it imply? I can't find any documentation on it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 20:35:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28706; Tue, 21 Feb 95 20:35:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05118; Tue, 21 Feb 95 20:20:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05112; Tue, 21 Feb 95 20:20:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh8Tc-00038FC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 20:15 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aroberts@usq.edu.au (Tony Roberts) Subject: reading precisely one news group in pine Message-Id: Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 00:31:20 GMT Status: O X-Status: I would like to use to invoke pine for the sole purpose of reading/posting to precisely one newsgroup (in any one invocation); upon starting up pine I want to go direct to the newsgroup list, avoiding ALL the normal intervening menus. (For example "nn comp.mail.pine" will do this via the reader nn.) How is this done with pine (v3.91)? The command "pine -f comp.mail.pine" does not work, cause it then tries to read comp.mail.pine as a mail folder which it is not. Tony -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof A J Roberts Dept Mathematics & Computing E-mail: aroberts@usq.edu.au Uni of Southern Queensland Phone: (76) 312943 Toowoomba, Queensland 4350 Fax: (76) 312721 Australia WWW: ftp://ftp.usq.edu.au/pub/aroberts -------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 20:44:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28986; Tue, 21 Feb 95 20:44:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09328; Tue, 21 Feb 95 20:31:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09322; Tue, 21 Feb 95 20:31:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh8eH-00038FC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 20:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dsm@widcat.widener.edu (Dan S. Mccoy) Subject: Pine FOR bsd43 (and EP/IX Date: 22 Feb 1995 00:43:13 GMT Message-Id: <3ie1b1$ooj@widcat.Widener.EDU> Status: O X-Status: Has anyone successfully compiled PINE for Control Data Corps EP/IX, a cross between bsd43 and system V (POSIX)? I got pico to compile but got errors while trying to do PINE. If anyone evern has a successfully compile version for BSD43. I'd appreciate, if you'd email me and let me knwo where I can grab that compiled version. Thanks! -- Dan McCoy -- Networking Assistant Widener University Computer Systems Dept. Email: dsm@widcat.widener.edu BBS: The Micro BBS (609) 299-0374 -- APPLE/MAC/IBM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 21:12:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29804; Tue, 21 Feb 95 21:12:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05597; Tue, 21 Feb 95 20:53:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05591; Tue, 21 Feb 95 20:53:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rh90q-00038FC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 20:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cc56056@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chris Clayton ) Subject: PC-Pine 3.91 problem with "expanded list" Date: 22 Feb 1995 03:44:32 GMT Message-Id: <3iebv0$8r@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> Status: O X-Status: I've read through the posts here and didn't see anything like my problem. I'm toying with PC-Pine 3.91 running with Trumpet Winsock for MS Windblows 3.1. As far as I can tell, I've gotten all the parameters of the setup file set correctly. (This could obviously be wrong...) I've got it set up so that when I go into the folder list, one is for incoming email (INBOX on my Unix mainframe server where my account is), one for saved messages on a different filesystem on that mainframe, one set for locally (My IBM's hard drive) saved email, and one for my Net News groups. When I go to get an expanded list of my remote saving directory, it just flashes like it went to get it and it failed. Yet that directory is my default for saved messages, and it saves mail to the files in that directory with no problem. A friend of mine in CS suggested that it could be a file permission problem, but after some toying around I've ruled that out. What else could it be??? Also, and this is of lower importance, why is it that my INBOX can be listed with the rest of my saved-mail folders when I run pine on my unix account? I don't understand how that's done...maybe with more time I can figure that one out, but the first problem has got me completely stumped... Thanks in advance for your help. - Chris Clayton -- "I am more than the sum of my email!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 21:58:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00766; Tue, 21 Feb 95 21:58:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10428; Tue, 21 Feb 95 21:46:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from vcc7.langara.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10422; Tue, 21 Feb 95 21:46:26 -0800 Received: by vcc7.langara.bc.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26614; Tue, 21 Feb 1995 21:45:47 -0800 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 21:45:47 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Chivas X-Sender: j_chivas@vcc7.vcc.bc.ca To: pine-questions Subject: Pine 3.91 and the SETUP printer feature Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Greetings: I have now installed pine 3.91 but when I go into the SETUP option from the main menu I don't see anything about changing the Printer settings. This feature was in the old Pine. Can someone tell me what might not be setup correctly? The default printer seems to be attach-to-ansi but I don't want that. Thanks JIm ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jim Chivas, Computing/Network Services email: jchivas@langara.bc.ca 100 west 49 avenue Voice: (604) 323-5390 Langara College Fax: (604) 323-5349 Vancouver, B.C. Canada V5Y 2Z6 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 22:34:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01926; Tue, 21 Feb 95 22:34:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06829; Tue, 21 Feb 95 22:20:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from weber.ucsd.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06823; Tue, 21 Feb 95 22:20:56 -0800 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by weber.ucsd.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id WAA23304; Tue, 21 Feb 1995 22:20:31 -0800 Message-Id: <199502220620.WAA23304@weber.ucsd.edu> To: Don Sugarman Cc: procmail@informatik.rwth-aachen.de, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: archive retrieval: best_of_procmail_list.gz (part 2 of 2) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 21 Feb 1995 17:41:46 -0500." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Id: <23301.793434030.1@weber.ucsd.edu> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 22:20:31 -0800 From: "Michael J. Corrigan" Status: O X-Status: I don't get a core dump with pine 3.91 on this file ... When I get MIME mail that has Content-Type: message/partial I use "munpack" on each of the pieces to get the attachment out as a separate file. > ARRGH! > > I just subscribed to the procmail list and requested the best_of... > archive dump. I got a message back with the above subject, but the data > was attached with a "[ Part 1: "Included Message" ] separator. When I > tried to view the message in Pine, I got a Pine bug error and got dumped > out of Pine. I also got a 9MB core dump. > > Question is, how do I read the enclosed message? > > TIA, > Don Sugarman > sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 23:14:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03009; Tue, 21 Feb 95 23:14:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11409; Tue, 21 Feb 95 22:54:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11403; Tue, 21 Feb 95 22:54:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhAuV-00038FC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 22:50 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: knapp@basegrp.com Subject: Replying to news group mail Date: Tue, 21 Feb 1995 23:30:44 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Here's hoping that the only stupid question is one you do not ask. When I reply to messages in news groups using pc pine version 3.91, it seems to put my reply above the quoted message. How can I change it so that the quoted message appears first, then my reply? I do not have this problem when I send mail. Thanks for your time and help. Randy L. Knapp From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 23:16:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03065; Tue, 21 Feb 95 23:16:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07356; Tue, 21 Feb 95 22:58:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07350; Tue, 21 Feb 95 22:58:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhB0F-00038CC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 22:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gnicklin@midland.co.nz (Grant Nicklin) Subject: Output from PINE to attached printer Date: 22 Feb 1995 00:33:53 GMT Message-Id: <3ie0pj$sul@news.midland.co.nz> Status: O X-Status: Can anybody help me with this printing problem. I am on a shell access fom my home PC and can't get printed output to the attached desktop printer. In setup I have "attached ANSI printer" and PINE says it is printing, but nothing happens... Thanks Grant Nicklin --------------------------- Cambridge NZ, "Town of Trees" gnicklin@midland.co.nz From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 21 23:56:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03800; Tue, 21 Feb 95 23:56:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11950; Tue, 21 Feb 95 23:39:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11944; Tue, 21 Feb 95 23:39:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhBec-00038KC; Tue, 21 Feb 95 23:38 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes Date: 22 Feb 1995 06:01:44 GMT Message-Id: <3iek08$4i0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> References: <3hgb88$nje@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> <3hlo8n$bhe@rover.ucs.ualberta.ca> <9502131558.AA00505@pX1.stfx.ca> Status: O X-Status: In article , Steve Holstead wrote: >I have talk to DEC. They say "Yeah, looks like a problem to me.". The >trouble is, their response was to use tcsh. That is not my idea of a DEC >fix. I fough with their support people for *6* MONTHS for a csh fix. >Their reply was "thats the way csh is designed.". I gave up on DEC. > I've seen variations of this problem on every major unix platform - hpux, ultrix, osf, aix, solaris . . . . Curses programs seem particularly prone to it - tin and lynx (especially lynx) are both problems for me - a user drops carrier or otherwise terminates incorrectly and these programs run wild. Pine does this occasionally under hpux and ultrix . . . perhaps once out of 27000 * 30 invocations per month (on our primary mail host running hpux 9.04). Shell scripts can also evince this behavior. I've seen sh scripts that have lost their controlling tty and promptly eat the machine on which they're running. Anyone dipped into the source yet to figure out what's going on ? I keep pushing that job down to the "not very interesting" part of my list :) jeff sumler Systems Engineer, Indiana University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 07:23:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16669; Wed, 22 Feb 95 07:23:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18404; Wed, 22 Feb 95 07:04:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18398; Wed, 22 Feb 95 07:04:43 -0800 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM ([3.12.38.33]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA28497 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 1995 10:04:41 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA04809; Wed, 22 Feb 95 10:03:07 EST Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 10:03:06 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE FAQ Web Files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: We will be moving some number of users to Pine in the near future. Can anyone tell me if it would be possible to get a copy of the PINE FAQ html file(s) for our local web server? Any other advice (like why I wouldn't want to do it) or alternate approaches to on-line support are invited. (Suggest private answers, unless responders think it to be of general interest.) TIA Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 08:40:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20003; Wed, 22 Feb 95 08:40:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20788; Wed, 22 Feb 95 08:27:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from solstice.ccs.unr.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20780; Wed, 22 Feb 95 08:27:13 -0800 Received: from equinox.unr.edu (equinox.ccs.unr.edu) by solstice.ccs.unr.edu (4.1/1.34) id AA07306; Wed, 22 Feb 95 08:26:13 PST Received: by equinox.unr.edu (5.67b/1.34) id AA26967; Wed, 22 Feb 1995 08:27:13 -0800 Message-Id: <199502221627.AA26967@equinox.unr.edu> From: malc@unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 08:27:13 -0800 X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mail to News-server. WHY? Status: O X-Status: I'm re-sending this, as I'm not sure it went out the first time. Apologies if this is a repeat. We have a couple of PINE-3.91 for Windows users who are having a frequent problem whereby PINE tries to post mail messages that they're try to send, to a news-server instead of the smtp-server. The posts fail; nntp-server and news-collections are not even set for these users. If they keep doing CTRL-X enough times, the message finally goes through. Each failure results in an error message that the message can't be posted to the news server, and in several seconds of delay. Can someone suggest a fix or workaround for this, or tell us what we're doing wrong? Thanks in advance for any info. Malcolm -- Malcolm L. Carlock UNR Unix Administration and Support --Email: malc@unr.edu or unr!malc or malc@equinox.bitnet --Voice: 702-784-4637 --Fax: 702-784-4050 --USMail: University of Nevada, Reno / Mailstop 180 / Reno / NV / 89557 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 13:00:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04089; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:00:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27443; Wed, 22 Feb 95 12:35:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27437; Wed, 22 Feb 95 12:35:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhNkv-00038FC; Wed, 22 Feb 95 12:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rareed@isca.uiowa.edu ( ) Subject: PGP and Pine Date: 22 Feb 1995 09:58:43 GMT Message-Id: <3if1sj$h97@nexus.uiowa.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello! I'm looking for some programs, shell scripts, etc. that I could use to have my email 'automagically' (or with little effort) encrypted and decrypted by PGP. If anyone would be so kind as to post the info here, or send me some email it'd be very much appreciated. Thanks! -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Reed (Axe-man at large) \ "We are the Mighty-Morphin' Axe-men!" | | rareed@lust.isca.uiowa.edu \ - "Wacked" Dan "Al" Chapman | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 13:14:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06716; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:14:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23211; Wed, 22 Feb 95 12:25:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23205; Wed, 22 Feb 95 12:25:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhNYn-00038CC; Wed, 22 Feb 95 12:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Uptal Khandu Mistry Subject: IRC help Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 19:46:00 +0000 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Apologies if this is in the wrong newsgroup but i couldnt find a more apropriate one. When i use IRC i can`t read much because there are no carriage returns after anyine says anything. Does anyone know how to put them in either in telnet or in irc? thanks, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 13:24:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07046; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:24:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25221; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:05:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25215; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:05:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhOCz-00038KC; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stern@amath.washington.edu (L.G. "Ted" Stern) Subject: Re: prompt for alternate editor Date: 22 Feb 1995 20:10:08 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: Ted Stern's message of Mon, 20 Feb 1995 15:51:46 -0800 Status: O X-Status: I figured out my problem. I want to have enable-alternate-editor-cmd set, but I DON'T want to have the editor explicitly defined. That way, when pressing ^_ in Compose, I am prompted for my alternate editor with whatever is in the EDITOR variable. In other words, on your [S]etup, [C]onfig page, make sure the options look like feature-list = [...] [X] enable-alternate-editor-cmd [ ] enable-alternate-editor-implicitly [...] editor = -- -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 13:25:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07127; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:25:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29304; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:10:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29298; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:10:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhOFi-00038DC; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thu@sun3.oulu.fi (Thomas Ulich) Subject: Re: prompt for alternate editor Date: 21 Feb 1995 22:35:55 GMT Message-Id: <3idpsb$8o2@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Ted Stern (stern@amath.washington.edu) wrote: : It seems to me that there used to be a prompt for the alternate editor in : Pine 3.89, but there isn't now. In other words, when I hit ^_, I used to : get something like : Edit using alternate editor: emacs : Am I missing some feature setting somewhere? In (S)etup - (C)onfig you can set the feature enable-alternate-editor-cmd If depends on whether you specified the alternate editor in the environment ( $EDITOR ) or in the pine setup, as far as I understand. Move to that feature and press ? for help... -- Thomas Ulich Tel.: ++358-(9)81-554 7042 !!!NEW: thomas.ulich@oulu.fi Inuits say: He who looks long upon the aurora soon goes mad. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 13:45:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08158; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:45:56 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26033; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:35:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26025; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:35:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhOfQ-00038KC; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ananda@cs.utexas.edu (Ananda M. Kar) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 and the SETUP printer feature Date: 22 Feb 1995 14:39:06 -0600 Message-Id: <3ig7da$1lq@paducah.cs.utexas.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: [ j_chivas@langara.bc.ca (Jim Chivas) wrote the following on "comp.mail.pine": ] -> Greetings: I have now installed pine 3.91 but when I go into the SETUP -> option from the main menu I don't see anything about changing the Printer -> settings. This feature was in the old Pine. Can someone tell me what -> might not be setup correctly? The default printer seems to be -> attach-to-ansi but I don't want that. If you're using one for the UNIX, the following will work. For PC's I don't know. Try the following: 1. From the Main Menu choose "S". 2. Choose "P" for printer. 3. Choose "3" to set the print command for example "lp -Plw12" 4. Save the configuration and come back to index. To print a message: 1. Choose "O" for "other commands and "Y" to print the message. You can also use "2" in the "Printer" Menu and set "PRINTER" and "LPDEST" variable in the shell. I guess you're smart enough to figure it out. Regards Ananda -- Ananda M. Kar |(H)458-9754 | URL: http://net.cs.utexas.edu/users/ananda ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I am Pentium of Borg , Division is futile , You will be Approximated From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 13:54:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08689; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:54:53 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00359; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:46:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00351; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:46:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhOqo-00038FC; Wed, 22 Feb 95 13:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rpress@dcs1.UWaterloo.ca (Ron Press) Subject: Re: Mail goes to News server in PINE 3.91 for Windows. WHY? Message-Id: References: <199502220202.AA26239@equinox.unr.edu> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 14:20:26 GMT Status: O X-Status: I have also seen this with some of my users. They get a message that they are mailing to thousands of people, do they really want to do that. I too would like an answer to this. ..Ron Press (rpress@dcs1.UWaterloo.ca) Computing Services University of Waterloo Waterloo, Ontatio Canada malc@unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock) wrote: >Several users at our site have had a recurring problem where PINE 3.91 >for Windows tries to post a mail message they're sending to a news server >instead of smtp-server, even if nntp-server, news-collections etc. are >blank. If they keep retrying, the message is eventually SMTP'd, but >they have to retry (CTRL-X again) dozens of times. As one might >imagine, these users are quite frustrated. > >Can someone suggest how we can eliminate this problem? > >Thanks, > >Malcolm > >-- >Malcolm L. Carlock UNR Unix Administration and Support >--Email: malc@unr.edu or unr!malc or malc@equinox.bitnet >--Voice: 702-784-4637 --Fax: 702-784-4050 >--USMail: University of Nevada, Reno / Mailstop 180 / Reno / NV / 89557 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 14:12:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10090; Wed, 22 Feb 95 14:12:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26807; Wed, 22 Feb 95 14:05:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26799; Wed, 22 Feb 95 14:05:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhP9M-00038DC; Wed, 22 Feb 95 14:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) Subject: Re: "pico -w" and long lines Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <1995Feb22.153442.29188@chemabs.uucp> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT References: <1995Feb11.124954.23177@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> <1995Feb19.193938.9282@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 15:34:42 GMT Status: O X-Status: Note however that if Pico splits the References line at white space, and starts the second thru nth line with white space, that the lines need not be joined back together - that's a legit format for a news header. -- :s Larry W. Virden INET: larry.virden@cas.org :s :s Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should :s be construed as representing my employer's opinions. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 15:17:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16079; Wed, 22 Feb 95 15:17:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02876; Wed, 22 Feb 95 15:09:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ts1_slip05.kn.PacBell.COM by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02870; Wed, 22 Feb 95 15:09:19 -0800 Received: by jagware.bcc.com (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.1) id ; Wed, 22 Feb 95 15:02 PST Message-Id: From: jjb@jagware.bcc.com (J.J.Bailey) Subject: Re: Runaway Pine Processes To: jsumler@bach.ucs.indiana.edu (jeff sumler) Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 15:02:36 -0800 (PST) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3iek08$4i0@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> from "jeff sumler" at Feb 22, 95 06:01:44 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1026 Status: O X-Status: > > I've seen variations of this problem on every major unix platform - > hpux, ultrix, osf, aix, solaris . . . . Curses programs seem > particularly prone to it - tin and lynx (especially lynx) are both > problems for me - a user drops carrier or otherwise terminates > incorrectly and these programs run wild. Pine does this occasionally > under hpux and ultrix . . . perhaps once out of 27000 * 30 invocations > per month (on our primary mail host running hpux 9.04). Shell scripts > can also evince this behavior. I've seen sh scripts that have lost their > controlling tty and promptly eat the machine on which they're running. > I've seen this too. In most cases it can be reduced to one or more of these problems: The modem is connected to a logical device which doesn't send SIGHUP to processes associated with it when carrier is lost. The processes are ignoring SIGHUP. The modem is configured to force DCD high. The driver is configured to force DCD high. -- J.J.Bailey Consultant jjb@jagware.bcc.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 15:44:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18377; Wed, 22 Feb 95 15:44:27 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03365; Wed, 22 Feb 95 15:26:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03359; Wed, 22 Feb 95 15:26:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhQNI-00038CC; Wed, 22 Feb 95 15:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: root@whacked.dorm.lsu.edu (Ben Curtis) Subject: Incoming folders Date: 22 Feb 1995 11:26:21 GMT Message-Id: <3if70t$p5s@deathstar.cris.com> Status: O X-Status: Ok, I have filtering set up, with a few folders listed as incoming folders, and the enable-incoming-folders variable set to true. Unfortunately, when I am finished with my INBOX and try to [TAB] to the other incoming folders, Pine tells me there are no other incoming folders. Has anyone else experienced this, or can anyone help me solve this? AdvTHANKSance... -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Just another random thought... bcurtis@cris.com, http://www.cris.com/~bcurtis I speak for myself coz I don't work for anyone - Finger for my PGP key. Sed quis custodiet ipsos Custodes? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 16:40:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21547; Wed, 22 Feb 95 16:40:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01428; Wed, 22 Feb 95 16:30:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from motgate.mot.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01421; Wed, 22 Feb 95 16:30:35 -0800 Received: from pobox.mot.com by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1 for ) id AA12888; Wed, 22 Feb 1995 18:30:25 -0600 Received: from po_box.cig.mot.com by pobox.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1 for ) id AA04337; Wed, 22 Feb 1995 18:30:21 -0600 Received: from otter.cig.mot.com (otter.cig.mot.com [136.182.254.1]) by po_box.cig.mot.com (8.6.9/SCERG-RELAY-1.11) with ESMTP id TAA28313; Wed, 22 Feb 1995 19:31:33 -0500 Received: (ellis@localhost) by otter.cig.mot.com (8.6.9/SCERG-1.11) id SAA19045; Wed, 22 Feb 1995 18:30:19 -0600 Message-Id: <199502230030.SAA19045@otter.cig.mot.com> To: ellis@cig.mot.com X-Loop-Mailnews: comp.mail.pine From: Ted Stern Subject: prompt for alternate editor Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 15:51:46 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Nntp-Posting-Host: duckabush.amath.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Status: O X-Status: It seems to me that there used to be a prompt for the alternate editor in Pine 3.89, but there isn't now. In other words, when I hit ^_, I used to get something like Edit using alternate editor: emacs with the cursor positioned after the end of the editor name. I really liked this, because it allowed me to switch editors depending on various conditions. It would also be the easiest way to use ispell. But now I just get automatic insertion into the alternate editor. This seems to go against the principle of Pine asking you whether you want to do something unless you explicitly turn that reminder off. Am I missing some feature setting somewhere? -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 20:19:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00478; Wed, 22 Feb 95 20:19:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06329; Wed, 22 Feb 95 20:14:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dns1.uga.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06321; Wed, 22 Feb 95 20:14:34 -0800 Received: from moe.coe.uga.edu. (moe.coe.uga.edu) by dns1.uga.edu with SMTP id AA11565 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 22 Feb 1995 23:14:33 -0500 Received: by moe.coe.uga.edu. id AA25012 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Wed, 22 Feb 1995 23:14:28 -0500 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 23:14:27 -0500 (EST) From: Barbara Marschke To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Mayday...I need HELP!!! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Please..... Can anyone help me with my problem??? I cannot believe this. I was trying to change my setup in pine according to the help manual and somehow I deleted all of my folders except my inbox. It won't even let me make a new folder. What could I have done. I have saved sooooo much good information in there and now it all gone. I posted a survey and all of the responses to it are gone. All my listserv information is gone. Everything except my current inbox has vanished. Even my sent mail is gone...Everything...Vaporized into cyberspace. Is there anyway I can retrieve it ? Please...can someone help me????? Can you read my panic???? Thanks for reading this and mucho thanks if you can help. Barbara Marschke bmarschk@moe.coe.uga.edu A desperate graduate student From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 23:35:41 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05357; Wed, 22 Feb 95 23:35:41 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09352; Wed, 22 Feb 95 23:31:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09324; Wed, 22 Feb 95 23:31:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhXzh-00038DC; Wed, 22 Feb 95 23:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: reading precisely one news group in pine Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 08:40:45 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: If your news is on an NNTP server, use pine -f \*\{server/nntp\}comp.mail.pine |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Tony Roberts wrote: > Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 00:31:20 GMT > From: Tony Roberts > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: reading precisely one news group in pine > > > I would like to use to invoke pine for the sole purpose of reading/posting > to precisely one newsgroup (in any one invocation); upon starting up pine I > want to go direct to the newsgroup list, avoiding ALL the normal > intervening menus. (For example "nn comp.mail.pine" will do this via the > reader nn.) How is this done with pine (v3.91)? > > The command "pine -f comp.mail.pine" does not work, cause it then tries to > read comp.mail.pine as a mail folder which it is not. > > Tony > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof A J Roberts > Dept Mathematics & Computing E-mail: aroberts@usq.edu.au > Uni of Southern Queensland Phone: (76) 312943 > Toowoomba, Queensland 4350 Fax: (76) 312721 > Australia WWW: ftp://ftp.usq.edu.au/pub/aroberts > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Feb 22 23:57:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05817; Wed, 22 Feb 95 23:57:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13314; Wed, 22 Feb 95 23:51:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13308; Wed, 22 Feb 95 23:51:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhYHs-00038CC; Wed, 22 Feb 95 23:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PGP and Pine Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 08:50:05 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3if1sj$h97@nexus.uiowa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3if1sj$h97@nexus.uiowa.edu> Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Pine 3.92 will have provisions to filter incoming and outgoing messages through PGP, or whatever. In the mean time, take a look at the mkpgp script that is mentioned here occasionally... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 22 Feb 1995 rareed@isca.uiowa.edu wrote: > Date: 22 Feb 1995 09:58:43 GMT > From: rareed@isca.uiowa.edu > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: PGP and Pine > > Hello! I'm looking for some programs, shell scripts, etc. that I could use > to have my email 'automagically' (or with little effort) encrypted and > decrypted by PGP. If anyone would be so kind as to post the info here, or > send me some email it'd be very much appreciated. > > Thanks! > > -- > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Richard Reed (Axe-man at large) \ "We are the Mighty-Morphin' Axe-men!" | > | rareed@lust.isca.uiowa.edu \ - "Wacked" Dan "Al" Chapman | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL0trQ9/IU4uTDdHNAQG+IwH9EP3RrD8S5iPUCC6P+xCdVs04VFRzVcJL LYKi+AJx2MAjrKWq6XVjjXAuiSzDv9DF5GsX6V2+99289faDA32etQ== =4hK0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 03:47:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10921; Thu, 23 Feb 95 03:47:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12717; Thu, 23 Feb 95 03:41:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12711; Thu, 23 Feb 95 03:41:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhbsz-00038HC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 03:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Karl Douglas Eriksen Subject: multiple incoming folders Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 21:48:38 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: the subject about says it all. How can you get multiple incoming folders on unix pine? Thanks. ______________________________________________________________________________ | I said it in Hebrew - I said it in Dutch - | Karl Douglas Eriksen | I said it in German and Greek; | kdouglas@ | But I wholly forgot (and it vexes me much) | gladstone.uoregon.edu | That English is what you speak! - Lewis Carrol | WWW page - http://gladstone |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| .uoregon.edu/~kdouglas From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 05:40:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14439; Thu, 23 Feb 95 05:40:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14530; Thu, 23 Feb 95 05:32:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calisto.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14524; Thu, 23 Feb 95 05:32:52 -0800 Received: from vulcan.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk by calisto with SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:31:26 +0000 Received: by vulcan.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk (MX V4.1 AXP) id 29; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:27:36 GMT Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:27:36 GMT From: Howard Jeffrey To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <0098C6A9.AFD461D4.29@vulcan.ccc.cranfield.ac.uk> Subject: PINE and kerberos Status: O X-Status: Dear All, Are any of your running PINE in a Kerberised environment ? If so how to you achieve this. Any information on this subject greatfully received. Cheers, Howard -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Howard Jeffrey. Computer Centre, Email: H.Jeffrey@cranfield.ac.uk Cranfield University, Tel: +44 (0)234 754207 Cranfield, Beds, MK43 OAL __o /\ England _ \<,_ / \/\ (_)/ (_) / \ \/\ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 06:07:16 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14992; Thu, 23 Feb 95 06:07:16 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18149; Thu, 23 Feb 95 05:56:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18143; Thu, 23 Feb 95 05:56:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhe1d-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 05:56 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sandy@mbnet.mb.ca (Sandy Altner) Subject: IA5 - what to do?? Date: 23 Feb 1995 02:56:08 GMT Message-Id: <3igtg8$euh@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> Status: O X-Status: When my server changed to the new Pine 3.9 something happened that changed my ability to capture text and print it out properly. I used to be able (using CrossTalk) to capture a file, transfer it to Word Perfect and print it. It would automatically convert from Ascii to a readable format and would print perfectly. Now I get something called IA5 which my WP doesn't seem to be able to convert. Is this something in the new Pine program and, if so, is there anything I can do about it. I am not familiar with programming language, so please keep suggestions in English and for the technically incapacitated. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Sandy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 07:31:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17160; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:31:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19249; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:11:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19243; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:11:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhf8d-00038HC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Julie A. Brown" Subject: ftp? Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 09:50:25 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: What is ftp? Also what is Mosaic? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 07:32:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17182; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:32:25 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15978; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:08:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15972; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:08:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhf5v-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:04 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jonc@pinnacle.co.nz (Jonathan Chen) Subject: Re: Distribution: header line? Date: 23 Feb 1995 16:52:41 +1300 Message-Id: <3ih0q9$2kn@kea.pinnacle.co.nz> References: Status: O X-Status: In pej@chrh.org (Paul Jones) writes: >Hi everyone! > >I noticed that PINE was not putting "Distribution:" headers in news articles. >Thinking this might be a problem, I noticed that _many_ people do not >use "Distribution:" headers. Is this an obsolete header line or is >"world" the default when one is not otherwise specified? > Distribution: headers aren't obsolete, but they do rely on properly configured (and well-placed) news-sites to enforce them. If one isn't specified, "world" is the default. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathan Chen ------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 07:37:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17430; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:37:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16165; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:19:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16159; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:19:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhfF7-00038HC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rdk13@cus.cam.ac.uk (Robert King) Subject: Pine bug Date: 23 Feb 1995 15:01:32 GMT Message-Id: <3ii80c$oc7@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Status: O X-Status: We're experencing some problems with Pine 3.91 here and I was wondering whether anyone else has had the same error. The problem is this: If (using stty) the number of rows is set to something other than 0, and the number of columns is set to anything greater than 257, then when someone tries to Compose, Reply, Forward, etc, Pine quits with a 'Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal"' error. (BTW, the large column values aren't set deliberately, they probably only appear because of comms problems.) Robert -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Robert King, Computer Lab, University of Cambridge, England, CB2 3QG | | rdk13@cus.cam.ac.uk +44 (0)1223 334665 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 08:18:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18967; Thu, 23 Feb 95 08:18:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16834; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:54:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16828; Thu, 23 Feb 95 07:54:46 -0800 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id KAA18915; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 10:53:34 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 10:53:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: Barbara Marschke Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Mayday...I need HELP!!! In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Barbara Marschke wrote: > I cannot believe this. I was trying to change my setup in pine according > to the help manual and somehow I deleted all of my folders except my > inbox. It won't even let me make a new folder. What could I have done. > I have saved sooooo much good information in there and now it all gone. Did you change your folder-collections directory? The default is folder-collections mail/[] If you change this then Pine will get confused as to what directory tree your folders are stored in... Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 08:43:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19887; Thu, 23 Feb 95 08:43:19 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20569; Thu, 23 Feb 95 08:27:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20563; Thu, 23 Feb 95 08:27:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhgMA-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 08:25 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tyler Wilson Subject: how does one find out about other news groups and subscribe to them Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 22:22:43 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: just curious about finding out about news groups and how i can subscribe to others. can anyone offer a list of some? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 09:07:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21825; Thu, 23 Feb 95 09:07:23 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18296; Thu, 23 Feb 95 08:57:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18290; Thu, 23 Feb 95 08:57:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhgpQ-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 08:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Clifford A. Anderson" Subject: FAQ? Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 21:12:55 -0900 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there an FAQ for Pine? Because I think this is probably a very common question, and I hate to ask it before reading one, but since I just gotta know, here it is: How do I uudecode something from Pine? (I know, I know, stupid question..... Please forgive me. ?D-) | The universe may be not only queerer than we think, but queerer than | | we can think. * How many Zen Masters does it take to change a light | | bulb? Two: One to change it and one not to change it. * "Would any- | | one like some toast?" -Talkie Toaster * PGP key available via finger | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 09:13:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22367; Thu, 23 Feb 95 09:13:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21845; Thu, 23 Feb 95 09:07:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21836; Thu, 23 Feb 95 09:07:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhgwh-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 09:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Clifford A. Anderson" Subject: Re: FAQ? Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 21:19:54 -0900 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Clifford A. Anderson wrote: > How do I uudecode something from Pine? (I know, I know, stupid > question..... Please forgive me. ?D-) Boy, don't I feel stupid. I should have looked around a little bit. Sorry to have troubled you. (Time to learn how to cancel!) | The universe may be not only queerer than we think, but queerer than | | we can think. * How many Zen Masters does it take to change a light | | bulb? Two: One to change it and one not to change it. * "Would any- | | one like some toast?" -Talkie Toaster * PGP key available via finger | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 09:17:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22603; Thu, 23 Feb 95 09:17:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18817; Thu, 23 Feb 95 09:07:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18811; Thu, 23 Feb 95 09:07:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhgwt-00038HC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 09:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Clifford A. Anderson" Subject: FAQ? Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 21:30:08 -0900 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I imagine this >IS< an FAQ, but is there a c.m.p FAQ available anywhere? I've been watchin' for about a month, and haven't noticed one yet. | The universe may be not only queerer than we think, but queerer than | | we can think. * How many Zen Masters does it take to change a light | | bulb? Two: One to change it and one not to change it. * "Would any- | | one like some toast?" -Talkie Toaster * PGP key available via finger | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 10:48:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27175; Thu, 23 Feb 95 10:48:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24440; Thu, 23 Feb 95 10:42:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24434; Thu, 23 Feb 95 10:42:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhiSr-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 10:40 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: spruce Date: 22 Feb 1995 13:47:14 -0700 Message-Id: <3ig7si$9s5@lacerta.unm.edu> Status: O X-Status: Hello, What's new with Spruce development? The URL I have no longer works! http://dshp02.trs.ntc.nokia.com:3000/Spruce/Spruce.html Farid hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 11:08:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28316; Thu, 23 Feb 95 11:08:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21680; Thu, 23 Feb 95 11:00:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21674; Thu, 23 Feb 95 11:00:52 -0800 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA00813; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:02:05 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:02:04 +0100 (MET) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: Changing setup parameters system-wide Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hello Pine-Info: I have what is probably a stupid question; I want the prYnt command to print to standard unix printer (lpr) by default, for *ALL* users on my system. What do I do? Also, I want to set up an account that will do nothing but forward mail to other accounts. Does anyone know if I can have multiple addresses in my .forward file? Thanks!! Mary Aplin Academic Computing Services Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 11:32:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29832; Thu, 23 Feb 95 11:32:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22141; Thu, 23 Feb 95 11:22:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22135; Thu, 23 Feb 95 11:22:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhj3J-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 11:18 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nigel@vodapage.demon.co.uk (Nigel Reed) Subject: Pc Pine Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 09:58:40 +0000 Message-Id: <793533520snz@vodapage.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: I hope someone out there can help me with this request. Having just downloaded Pine and PCpine, I am now wanting to get them to talk to each other. Pine in running under Hp-ux 9.04 and I am able to send messages OK between users on the machine. I now want to add my PC. Can someone please advice me a quick way to configure the system and get it up and running as I'm left a little confused by the documentation. I am running FTP PC TCP/IP version 3.0 under a dos environment which is configured to, and does, talk to the host where Pine is sat. Many thanks. Regards -- Nigel Reed Email :nigel@vodapage.demon.co.uk Vodapage Ltd Daytime Tel:+44 1635 521800 ext 2337 21-22 Parkway Pager No. :+44 1399 741206 Voicemail +44 1399 872295 Newbury RG13 1EE Evening&W/E:+44 1635 861859 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 12:34:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03570; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:34:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27259; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:25:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27253; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:25:52 -0800 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM ([3.12.38.33]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA00453 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:25:45 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA15675; Thu, 23 Feb 95 15:24:18 EST Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:24:17 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: IP Products Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I figure that there are so many folks out there using Pine with so many different configurations that one of you will be able to answer a question aobut IP products. We are currenlty experimenting with a dial-up connection using a 'Shiva box'. When we log in, the Shiva box assigns an IP address for that session. We are using an MS TCP/IP product, which requires that the user update the IP address each time we log in to match the IP address assigned by the Shiva box. Does anyone know of an IP product that will recognize and use the Shiva-assigned address automagically? TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 12:49:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04185; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:49:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23342; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:03:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23336; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:02:53 -0800 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM ([3.12.38.33]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA27424 for ; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:02:35 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA15479; Thu, 23 Feb 95 15:00:43 EST Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:00:41 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: "Clifford A. Anderson" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: FAQ? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Clifford A. Anderson wrote: > I imagine this >IS< an FAQ, but is there a c.m.p FAQ available anywhere? > I've been watchin' for about a month, and haven't noticed one yet. Yes. See below. Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com >From dlm@cac.washington.edu Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 10:42:51 -0800 From: David L Miller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Current Version of this Document The most up-to-date version of this FAQ can be found at either of these places: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/faq/ ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq Last updated: 940106 Current release: Pine 3.91, Pico 2.5 Pine and Pico are registered trademarks of the University of Washington. Copyright 1995 by the University of Washington. [ Part 2: "Contents" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Contents PINE FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS The following questions have been compiled from questions asked on the comp.mail.pine newsgroup and the pine-info and pine-bugs mailing lists. General * What is Pine? * What is MIME? * What is IMAP? * How can I get a copy of Pine? * What documentation is available? * What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? * What are all these funny names in your examples? * How many sites use Pine? * Can we use Pine source code in commercial products? Basic usage problems * Why doesn't Pine's cancel/postpone/etc key work? * How do I keep all of the names from showing up at the top of the message? * How do I use Ispell with Pine and Pico? * How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? * How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? * How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? * Can I use Pine non-interactively, e.g., in a shell script? * Can I execute Pine from a shell script so I can use my addressbook? * xbiff lets me know about new mail, but pine doesn't know about it. * How can I read a ROT13 encoded message? * Can I eliminate the @host.domain from local addresses? Printing * Why doesn't printing work? * What PC comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? * What Mac comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? * What Amiga comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? Newsreading and posting * How do I read News with Pine? * Can I post news with Pine? Attachments * Why does Pine encode text attachments? * How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment? * How can I send a text file without it being encoded? * Why does Pine use Base64 instead of UUENCODE? * How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME format? Folder Problems * If I postpone a Reply, Pine never marks it as answered. * "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" * What is folder locking and how does it work? * What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mailbox simultaneously? * Why did I get the message "locked, override in XXX sec"? * Why doesn't Pine recognize Content-Length header field? Addressbook Usage and Conversions * How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into the text of a message? * How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressbook? * How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? Installation and Configuration * Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine? * Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? * What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it? * Where does Unix Pine look for configuration information? * Where does PC-Pine look for configuration information? * How do I make Pine work with my older terminal? * How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail? Platform Specific * To what platforms has Pine been ported? * Pine 3.89 on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.3 crashes every time I try to open a folder. * I cannot compile under SCO unix, why not? Bug Reports * Why should I use the builtin Bug Report command? * Why does the bug report screen come up when I didn't ask for it? * I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix it? Development Info * What are the current versions of Pine and related software? * What is new in this version of Pine? * When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) scheduled? * What new features will the next release of Pine include? [ Part 3.1: "What is Pine?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is Pine? Pine(tm) --a Program for Internet News & Email-- is a tool for reading, sending, and managing electronic messages. It was designed specifically with novice computer users in mind, but can be tailored to accommodate the needs of power users as well. Pine uses Internet message protocols (e.g. RFC822, SMTP, MIME, IMAP, and NNTP) and runs on Unix, MS-DOS, and MS Windows. The guiding principles for Pine's user-interface were: careful limitation of features, one-character mnemonic commands, always-present command menus, immediate user feedback, and high tolerance for user mistakes. It is intended that Pine can be learned by exploration rather than reading manuals. It has the ability to perform full screen editing of messages, include and extract attachments (such as Word or Excel files), and other advanced message system features. Pine uses IMAP for accessing message folders on remote computers and MIME for sending multimedia or other binary files as attachments to normal messages. [ Part 3.2: "What is MIME?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is MIME? MIME (RFC1521) stands for "Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions". It is an Internet standard which allows transfer of binary files (word-processing documents, spreadsheets, images, sounds, etc) between any compliant mailers. You can get technical information about MIME from the RFC. Ongoing discussion on MIME takes place in the newsgroup comp.mail.mime. There is also a Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) list that is posted regularly to comp.mail.mime, comp.answers and news.answers. If you have a Web browser you can access it through: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/bngusenet/comp/mail/mime/top.html [ Part 3.3: "What is IMAP?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is IMAP? IMAP stands for "Internet Message Access Protocol". An IMAP client program on any platform at any location on the Internet can access email folders on an IMAP server. While the messages appear to be local, they reside on the server until the client explicitly moves or deletes them. The IMAP protocol is a functional (but incompatible) superset of POP. A principal advantage of IMAP over POP is that it permits using more than one computer to access your mail. Using multiple computers with POP typically results in your mail ending up scattered across all of those computers. Another key advantage is IMAP's ability to selectively access parts of messages, e.g. you don't have to wait for a 2MB audio attachment to be retrieved until you specifically ask for it. This is a big win over low-speed (e.g. dialup) connections. For a detailed comparison of IMAP and POP, see the paper "Comparing Two Approaches to Remote Mailbox Access: IMAP vs. POP." It is available from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.vs.pop IMAP is what allows Pine (or any other IMAP client) to access email on a remote mail server, usually one that is shared (central or departmental). The current IMAP4 Proposed Standard is described in RFC1730. Additional information is included in RFC1731, RFC1732, and RFC1733. [ Part 3.4: "How can I get a copy of Pine?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How can I get a copy of Pine? Pine is available via anonymous ftp from the pine directory of ftp.cac.washington.edu. [ Part 3.5: "What documentation is available?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What documentation is available? The Pine program itself includes extensive online help. Additional documentation may be found via anonymous FTP or via World-Wide-Web at the following locations: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine The following contributed documentation is also available: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations/ca_pine_guide.html http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations/PineIntroduction http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/creations/PineIntermediate If you have documentation that you would like to share, please mail pine@cac.washington.edu a pointer to them and we'll include it here. [ Part 3.6: "What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing wit" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What mailing lists and newsgroups are there dealing with Pine? The "comp.mail.pine" newsgroup is devoted to Pine. It is bi-directionally gatewayed to the "pine-info" mailing list described below. The following mailing lists deal with Pine and related topics: Pine-Info@cac.washington.edu Pine-Info is a mailing list for the email program Pine. The mailing list includes discussion of Pine features, bugs, tricks, etc. Often technical and installation questions appear on the list. New releases, fixes and version of Pine are announced on the pine-info mailing list. For official announcements only, you may wish to see pine-announce instead of this list. To subscribe to pine-info, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-info in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu. Pine-Announce@cac.washington.edu Pine-Announce is a announcement list for the email program Pine. When new Pine products are released and old ones updated, a message goes out to this group describing the development. It is a very low volume list and includes no discussion whatsoever. NOTE: All messages to this list are automatically forwarded to pine-info, so it is not necessary to subscribe to both lists! To subscribe to pine-announce, send a message to majordomo@cac.washington.edu with subscribe pine-announce in the body of the message. Owners of this mailing list can be contacted at owner-pine-announce@cac.washington.edu. IMAP@CAC.Washington.EDU This is the official mailing list for the IETF IMAP working group and other interested parties. Discussion of the evolving IMAP standard and related issues is conducted on this list. To subscribe to IMAP, send a message to imap-request@cac.washington.edu. C-Client@CAC.Washington.EDU This list is for discussion of the C-Client library which is used by Pine and various other mail and IMAP clients and servers. To subscribe to C-Client, send any message to c-client-request@cac.washington.edu. [ Part 3.7: "How many sites use Pine?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How many sites use Pine? Based on the number of people getting copies of Pine and its documentation, we know for sure that Pine is used at over 12,000 sites in 60 different countries. We do not have any way to count the exact number of sites using Pine or the total number of users, but we estimate that well over one million people use Pine right now (12/94). People are still jumping on the Pine bandwagon -- about 4,000 new users each day -- so any guess about the number of people who use Pine today will surely be too small tomorrow. [ Part 3.8: "Can we use Pine source code in commercial products?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can we use Pine source code in commercial products? Pine and C-client source code is copyright by the University of Washington, however it may be used without fee to the University of Washington, even for commercial purposes, subject to the terms of the copyright notice in the code. If you want to use Pine code in commercial products, you must retain the indication of UW trademark and copyright and we ask that you also "explicitly and conspiciously" indicate that there is no business relationship of any kind between you and the University of Washington. Note that the copyright restrictions may not be the same in all versions of the code, but the general information above pertains to all versions of Pine up to and including the current 3.91 release. A related issue concerns use of the name Pine... "Pine and Pico are registered trademarks of the University of Washington. No commercial use of these trademarks may be made without prior written permission of the University of Washington." If you have any doubts about what you need to do to use Pine commercially, write to the Pine Development Team and ask. [ Part 4.1: "Why doesn't Pine's cancel/postpone/etc key work?" ] On some systems, certain control characters are intercepted before they get to Pine. This is usually a problem with the communication software running on a Mac or PC, but terminal servers sometimes intercept certain control characters as well. Control-C and Control-O seem to be two of the most common problem cases. As a work-around, you can press the ESCAPE key twice followed by the desired key. For example, if Control-O (^O) does not work on your system, try typing "ESC ESC O". This trick will work for any control character. [ Part 4.2: "How do I send a message to lots people without showing " ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I send a message to lots people without showing all the names? Put addresses and/or list from your address book in the Bcc: (blind carbon copy) header field. You will see all the names and addresses as you compose the message, but they are erased before arriving in other people's INBOXes. The Bcc: header is not displayed automatically in the default Pine configuration, so you may need to use the rich headers command (Ctrl-R) while the cursor is in the header to expose it. [ Part 4.3: "How do I use Ispell with Pine and Pico?" ] From: Mike Ramey , Nancy McGough Subject: How do I use Ispell with Pine and Pico? If you use ispell and have an ispell custom dictionary (usually ispell.words or .ispell_words in your home directory, which contains a list of words, one word to a line) then it is nice to also use ispell for spell checking your outgoing mail messages. There are two methods for setting this up. METHOD 1 ======== If you always use Pine's default composer, Pico, then you can use ispell as your "alternate editor." In your .pinerc set enable-alternate-editor and set the editor variable like this: editor=/usr/local/bin/ispell (See step 1 of Method 2 below for instruction for finding the full path to ispell on your machine.) Then, when you are composing a message you can type ^_ to run ispell on your message and display the output in Pine's viewer. In the viewer you can use ispell's usual commands. While in ispell you can type ? for help on ipell's commands. One useful command is ``I'' which inserts the current word in your custom dictionary. METHOD 2 ======== If you use an alternate editor, such as vi or emacs, then you need to fool Pine into thinking that ispell is spell. Here's how to set this up: 1] Determine what directory ispell is in by using one of these commands: which ispell type ispell whereis ispell where ispell 2] In your bin directory, e.g., $HOME/bin, link spell to ispell with: ln -s /usr/local/bin/ispell $HOME/bin/spell Replace ``/usr/local/bin'' with ispell's path (see #1). 3] If you use the csh or tcsh set the SPELL environment variable by putting a line like this in your .cshrc: setenv SPELL "$HOME/bin/spell" If you use the Bourne shell set the SPELL environment variable by putting a line like this in your .profile: SPELL="$HOME/bin/spell" export SPELL 4] In your home directory create a file called ispell.words that contains your private dictionary of words that should pass the spell check. This will probably include your name, email address, etc. 5] Logout and log back in to make sure that your new settings are in place. 6] Test that this is set up correctly by using Pine to compose a message and include words, like your name, that are in your custom dictionary. Spellcheck the message with ^T. If your name passes the spellcheck (and your name isn't in regular dictionaries) then it is set up correctly. With Method 2 you cannot use many of ispell's features, for example, ``I'', which inserts a word in your dictionary doesn't work. [ Part 4.4: "How can I have a signature automatically appended to my" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? Using your favorite text editor (e.g. Pico), create a file in your home directory called .signature containing the text you want appended to each message. PC-Pine users should put their signatures in the file \PINE\PINE.SIG. For more details see Nancy McGough's Signature and Finger FAQ. The hypertext version is at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/signature_finger_faq/faq.html The plain text version is at: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/signature_finger_faq [ Part 4.5: "How can I filter messages into different incoming folde" ] From: The Pine Development Team , Nancy McGough Subject: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not do delivery filtering. That function is done by other programs, such as "procmail" or "filter" or "deliver" or "mailagent." Once you have set-up your delivery filtering, e.g. via the "procmail" program, then you will have new mail arriving in several different mailboxes/folders, in addition to your INBOX. So then the question becomes, how do you access those new "incoming message" folders that your favorite delivery filter program has created? One solution is to just access them the same way you access your other mail folders. If they are in your default folder directory (usually $HOME/mail) then just type L to list your folders and select the folder you'd like to view. If they are in a different directory, for example $HOME/mail/IN, add that directory to your folder-collections by putting this into your .pinerc: folder-collections=mail/[], mail/IN/[], And then when you list your folders by typing L the mail/IN directory will be in your list. Another solution is to use Pine's incoming-folders variable. With this method you can use the Tab key to tab through new messages in all your incoming folders. When you are at the last new message in one incoming folder pressing the Tab key will move you to the next incoming folder with a new message. Here is part of a sample .pinerc for setting up incoming folders: incoming-folders=Art151 {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}IN/art151, Art-L {warhol.art.nowhere.edu}IN/Art-L, Old-Student-Acct {fozzie.elsewhere.edu}INBOX In this case, the pinerc entries presume that your delivery filtering program has been configured to put mail relating to the Art151 class into the folder "IN/art151" and mail relating to the Art-L mailing list into "IN/Art-L". >From the Folders List screen, you can then easily access those folders. Eventually we will have a way to indicate which of these may have new mail waiting for you, so that you don't forget that you have more than one place to look for new mail. For a more detailed treatment of filtering, see the Filtering Mail FAQ and the Procmail FAQ. The hypertext version of these are available at: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/procmail-faq/faq.html The plain text versions are available at: ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/procmail_faq [ Part 4.6: "How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organi" ] From: Nancy McGough Subject: How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? In Pine 3.90, and later versions, you can set Reply-To, Organization, and other headers using the customized-hdrs variable. 1. From the Main Menu type s for Setup 2. Type c for Configuration 3. To change the value of the customized-hdrs variable: a) To use the Where command type: w b) At the prompt type: customized-hdrs c) To Add a value type: a d) At the prompt type: Organization: Your Organization Name e) Repeat steps c and d for other headers such ast Reply-To Note that Pine understands environment variables so you can use lines like the following (if the variables are set): Organization: $ORGANIZATION Reply-To: $REPLYTO While reading a message that you've received you can view all headers by typing h. If h does not work you need to go to your configuration menu and set the enable-full-header-cmd variable. While composing a message you can view all the headers by placing the cursor in the header region and typing ^R (view rich headers). Customized headers are not available in Pine 3.89 and earlier. [ Part 4.7: "Can I use Pine non-interactively, e.g., in a shell scri" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can I use Pine non-interactively, e.g., in a shell script? This is not currently possible. If it were possible you could use Pine, and your Pine addressbook, to mail people from within a shell script, at the end of a pipeline, etc. [ Part 4.8: "When I get new mail, xbiff lets me know about it, but p" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: When I get new mail, xbiff lets me know about it, but pine doesn't know about it. There are currently two ways to force a new mail check. * Press `Ctrl-L' (Refresh Display). * At the last message in a folder, press 'N' 4-5 times. [ Part 4.9: "How can I read a ROT13 encoded message?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How can I read a ROT13 encoded message? When viewing the message, use the '|' (Pipe) command and give it the following: tr '[A-Za-z]' '[N-ZA-Mn-za-m]' You could also write a script, maybe called unrot, that does this and then pipe the message to the script. In order for the pipe command to work you need to be using Pine 3.90 or higher and have the enable-unix-pipe-cmd variable set. [ Part 4.10: "Can I eliminate the @host.domain from local addresses?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can I eliminate the @host.domain from local addresses? This is not a new idea. It's a very old idea, in fact, and just about everyone who has ever dealt with email has had it at one time or another. Regretably, it has come to be recognized as a bad idea. Here's why: An email address without a host name is not syntactically valid according to RFC822. Now, it is true that RFC822 only specifies what must be done in messages which are transmitted over the network, and that strictly local messages are not under RFC822's dictates. This means that there are two formats of email, one that conforms to RFC822 and one that does not. Careful efforts must be made to ensure that the non-conforming mail format never escapes the local system onto the network. Twenty years' of experience has shown that it is impossible to guarantee that the non-conforming format does not escape into the network, even in the face of traps to catch such messages on their way out and convert them to RFC822 conforming format. Indeed, such traps have often contributed additional problems on their own. The non-conforming format is ambiguous as to what host is intended. Although the off-the-cuff solution (and the one that everyone implements) is ``use the local host'', numerous examples have occurred in which this leads to wrong behavior. For example, it may be the ``local mail center'' instead of the ``local machine which is a single-user workstation''. Or, if a one of the non-conforming messages escaped on to the network, it's some remote system and we have no idea at all what system that may be! There's no way for the mail reader to tell; a human may infer from context but often does so by using information that is not available to the program. The Pine team has spent long (and at times heated) meetings reviewing this issue, before coming to the conclusion (as other email groups have independently done) that it's a no-win situation. The policy of the email development community for 15 years (since the RFC733 discussions) has been to exterminate the non-conforming format by not implementing it in modern mail tools. It may be feasible to implement a feature in a future version of Pine that would suppress the display of the local host name in email addresses. That is, the host name would still be in the file on disk, but would not show up on the screen. We'll consider it, but we have a large list of very high priority tasks which must be done first. [ Part 5.1: "Why doesn't "attached-to-ansi" printing work?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why doesn't "attached-to-ansi" printing work? So-called "attached-to-ansi" printing relies on the communication software you are using to interpret certain special characater sequences that tell it to divert the incoming stream of characters to your printer, and then back to your screen. Perhaps 99% of "pine printing problems" are either due to PC or Mac communications software that doesn't understand ANSI escape sequences for printing, *or* (in the dialin case) softare flow- control problems. We didn't understand how big a problem software flow control was until 3.90 came out... we changed pine to intercept flow control characters so that users would not see Pine "wedge" mysteriously if a mis-type or noise generated a control-S, but that did bad things when printers, modems, or comm software was depending on s/w flow control. So in 3.91 we added the "preserve-start-stop-characters" feature, so that Pine could be configured to respect s/w flow control characters (if the operating system did) for those folks who needed them. Enabling this feature should make Pine 3.91 behave the same way as earlier versions. Then we discovered that some operating systems don't enable software flow control by default. So in 3.92, the "preserve-start-stop-characters" feature will do more than simply "not ignoring" them, it will try to force the OS to pay attention to them. So here's the sequence of things to try if you have pine printing problems: 1. CHECK FOR SOFTWARE FLOW-CONTROL PROBLEMS: A. Try enabling "preserve-start-stop-characters" <- requires 3.91 B. If that doesn't help, verify that the OS is enabling s/w flow control; if it isn't, you can either change that in a global .login script, or as a worst case, wrap pine in a script that does it. By the way, on our AIX systems, we had to execute "stty -ixon" followed by "stty ixon" --no one here knows why the first stty is needed. (Note that explicitly enabling s/w flow control in the OS will not be needed in 3.92). C. If neither of the above apply, double-check that you actually have *some* kind of flow control enabled on your system, either hardware or software. 2. CHECK YOUR COMM SOFTWARE FOR ANSI PRINTING CAPABILITY A. After ruling out s/w flow control problems, if printing still doesn't work, the odds are that the PC or Mac comm s/w is at fault. I don't know how to determine this other than via trial-and-error and word-of-mouth. B. The "ansiprt" utility included in the pine distribution can also be used for testing. It simply sends the specified text file to user's terminal device, bracketed with the ANSI escape sequences for print diversion. This is just what Pine does as well (although some versions of ansiprt offer a few options not available via Pine.) 3. POSSIBLE OTHER PRINTING PROBLEMS A. Printing via Pine's "attached-to-ansi" facility to a postscript-only printer. Pine does not yet have the ability to encapsulate text into postscript, ala "enscript", so the custom print option using enscript and ansiprt will be needed in that case. B. Other printer-specific configuration problems. For example, whether or not the printer needs a trailing formfeed to eject the last page, or a control-D, or non-Unix newline conventions, etc. Many of these problem will also require using the custom print command option and "ansiprt". [ Part 5.2: "What PC comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" pr" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What PC comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? The attached-to-ansi option works on most PC communication packages. In particular, Kermit, NCSA Telnet, and WinQVT have been tested. Brent Blumenstein reports "It works in under OS/2 using IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2 telnet capabilities (provided you have updated to the latest corrective service diskettes - readily available). I do this using both a token ring network connection and SLIP from home." Ryan reports "Works great with QmodemPro for DOS." Ben Cacace reports "I'm using ProComm Plus for Windows ver 1.02: I can print E-Mail if it is *not* a large memo (memos of 48K or larger give me a ProComm error message)." Nancy McGough reports "It works with Delrina's WinComm. Other packages will be listed as reports come in. Please send reports to pine@cac.washington.edu. IMPORTANT NOTE ============== If you have a postscript printer and you are printing from a MS Windows Comm program you need to use a non-postscript printer driver. [ Part 5.3: "What Mac comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" p" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What Mac comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? The UW modified versions of Kermit and NCSA Telnet are known to work with the attached-to-ansi print option. Versaterm Pro is also reported to work. Other packages will be listed as reports come in. Please send reports to pine@cac.washington.edu. [ Part 5.4: "What Amiga comm software works with the "Print to ANSI"" ] From: David Miller Subject: What Amiga comm software works with the "Print to ANSI" print option? David Miller reports "Term 3.2 starts printing, but misses the sequence to stop printing. Term 4.1 printing is garbled." Other packages will be listed as reports come in. Please send reports to pine@cac.washington.edu. [ Part 6.1: "How do I read News with Pine?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I read News with Pine? Beginning with version 3.91, it is usually sufficient to set the nntp-server variable, via the Setup/Config menu. This will automatically define a default news-collection. In case the default is not appropriate for your site, the following details may help... Three ways to access news via Pine: 1. Via NNTP. Your .newsrc file must be on the machine where Pine is running. Assuming news is stored on the machine news.nowhere.edu, a typical .pinerc entry would be: news-collections = News *{news.nowhere.edu/nntp}[*] Note that if the nntp-server variable is set, your news-collections will default to NNTP access from that same server. 2. Via IMAP. Your .newsrc file must be on the machine where news is stored. Assuming news is stored on the machine news.nowhere.edu, a typical .pinerc entry would be: news-collections = News *{news.nowhere.edu}[*] 3. Local News. If news is stored on the same machine you run Pine on, you can specify: news-collections = News *[*] The advantage of IMAP newsreading is that the same .newsrc can be used for both Unix Pine and PC-Pine. The disadvantage is that you must have an account on the machine that stores the news and runs the NNTP server. [ Part 6.2: "Can I post news with Pine?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can I post news with Pine? Versions of Pine prior to Pine 3.90 do not support posting. In Pine 3.90 and later you can enter a list of newsgroups on the Newsgrps: header to post a message. If the Newsgrps: header is not displayed when you are composing you can view it by putting your cursor in the header and typing ^R to view rich headers. [ Part 7.1: "Why does Pine encode text attachments?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why does Pine encode text attachments? Pine uses MIME's Base64 encoding for *all* attachments, including text, in order to assure that they are not modified in transit. The goal is make sure that sending file attachments in Pine is as dependable as using FTP. Although it may seem like encoding is unnecessary for files that are plain text, certain email gateway, trasport, and delivery agents pose a threat to the integrity of even text files (much less binary files). For example, long lines may be wrapped, trailing spaces deleted, tabs turned into spaces, lines beginning with "From " modified, etc. Pmay there are actually several potential sources of corruption [ Part 7.2: "How can someone without a MIME-aware mail program decip" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment? Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for attaching files to email messages. Any MIME-capable mailer should be able to understand Pine's attachments. If you use Pine's attachment feature, your recipient needs to have either a MIME-capable mail reader or software that can decode MIME. Fortunately, these are not hard to find. The major proprietary mail vendors have committed to MIME support, but some of their upgraded products are some months away. One freely-available program which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available at: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu//pub/mpack [ Part 7.3: "How can I send a text file without it being encoded?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How can I send a text file without it being encoded? This is easily done by using Pine's "file inclusion" key (Control-R). Instead of entering the file name on the Attchmnt header line, move the cursor to the bottom of your messaage, and press Control-R, then enter the name of the text file. It will be included at the end of your message without any encoding (unless the file contains 8bit or binary characters, in which case the entire message becomes subject to MIME encoding rules.) [ Part 7.4: "Why does Pine use Base64 instead of UUENCODE?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why does Pine use Base64 instead of UUENCODE? Pine uses the Internet MIME (Multipurpose Internet Mail Extensions) standard for all attachments. MIME uses "Base64" encoding rather than uuencode, because uuencode uses characters that are transformed by some email gateways, and there are also several incompatible versions of uuencode. However, if needed, you can certainly uuencode a file outside of Pine, then use the Composer's Ctrl-R (file inclusion) command to insert the uuencoded file into the message. [ Part 7.5.1: "How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME form" ] From: Keith Moore Subject: How do I convert a Sun Mailtool attachment to MIME format? A perl script (and conversion to C of same) that converts OpenWindows mail to MIME. Body parts currently supported are: text, gif, Sun rasterfile (converted to image/gif), postscript, and audio. Other types default to application/octet-stream. It's easy to extend the set of types supported and to add conversions, if necessary. The script requires uuencode, uudecode, zcat (aka uncompress), and the "convert" program from ImageMagick. If you don't have ImageMagick you can probably substitute the pbm stuff with little fuss. If you are reading this with a MIME browser, the the script and program should be included in the next two attachments. [ Part 7.5.2: "Included Message" ] This part is not included and can be fetched as follows: NAME : sun-to-mime.perl SITE : cs.utk.edu ACCESS-TYPE: ANON-FTP DIRECTORY : pub/MIME MODE : ASCII [ Part 7.5.3: "Included Message" ] This part is not included and can be fetched as follows: NAME : sun-to-mime.c SITE : cs.utk.edu ACCESS-TYPE: ANON-FTP DIRECTORY : pub/MIME MODE : ASCII From: The Pine Development Team Subject: If I postpone a Reply, Pine never marks it as answered. This is a known limitation of the current release of Pine. When you postpone a composition, Pine does not have any way to keep track of which message was being replied to (or that it was a reply at all). This limitation will be removed in a future release. [ Part 8.2: ""Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" The message "Folder Format Invalidated (consult an expert), aborted" means that Pine was reading your mail folder, and at the point in which it expected a start-of-message header line, it found something else. The ``format invalidated'' condition can happen in one of three ways: 1. bad data exists at the beginning of the folder. 2. data was appended to the folder after Pine initially read it, and the new data did not begin with a start-of-message-header. 3. the folder was modified without Pine being aware of it. All three problems are generally caused by software external to Pine. Condition (1) can be determined by whether or not the problem repeats itself after restarting Pine. If restarting Pine does not make the problem go away, then you need to look at the actual file for the folder and see what is wrong with the very first line. In particular, make sure that there are no blank lines at the beginning of the file and that the first character of the folder file is a capital ``F'' , the second an ``r'', the third an ``o'', etc. In the case of an INBOX, you may want to rename the folder so that new mail can be delivered while repairs on the corrupt folder are being done. Condition (2) may be caused by a mail delivery process (e.g. /bin/mail) which writes some characters other than ``From '' at the beginning of the new data. Condition (3) is caused by another program manipulating the mail folder without following the normal folder locking protocols. This is a general problem on UNIX. Conditions (2) and (3) have also been known to occur when accessing folders via NFS, if the information returned by the stat() and read() system calls do not correspond with each other as a result of NFS attribute caching. Restarting Pine on that folder always clears conditions (2) and (3). If the problem is chronic, it may be worth an investigation to determine its cause. Usually, it is due to the misbehavior of some external software. The reason why Pine gives up with conditions (2) and (3) is that it does not want to risk damaging user data by guessing what is right. Pine never writes to the folder unless it is absolutely sure it knows what it is doing. There are some steps which can be taken to reduce the risk of these conditions coming up. Some of these steps may require the assistance of your system adminstrator (or whomever it was that built and installed Pine on your system): 1. Use IMAP instead of NFS to access remote folders. Problems with locking over NFS are perhaps the single most important cause of user difficulties. Using IMAP eliminates this class of problem. 2. Consider enabling the mbox driver in Pine. If the mbox driver is enabled, mail is transferred from the /usr/spool/mail mail into a file called mbox in your home directory, if mbox exists. The home directory mbox file is then your INBOX. This has the advantage that Pine and the mail delivery system are less often in contention for the INBOX, and never both trying to update it. Pine only empties the /usr/spool/mail file, it never tries updating it. 3. Be careful not to run other programs that modify your folders while you are running Pine. Such programs may change the folder out from under Pine, and lead Pine to conclude that there is a problem with its view of the file. [ Part 8.3: "What is folder locking and how does it work?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is folder locking and how does it work? Locks are used by Pine and other mail programs to prevent damage from occurring to the mail file when multiple programs try to write to the file at the same time. Because there are many different schemes of mail file locking used on UNIX, Pine implements all of them. The result is a lot of complexity. There are several reasons why locking needs to be done: 1. If you want to read the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process will modify the mail file while you are reading it. 2. If you want to write to the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process is accessing the mail file while you are writing it. 3. If you have the mail file open, you want to make sure that no other process can alter any of the internal contents of the mail file that you have read, but it is OK if another process appends new data to the mail file. 4. If you want to alter any of the internal contents of the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process has the mail file open. There are several mechanisms of locking: * The creation of a file which has the same name as the mail file, but with a suffix of ".lock" (for example, this lock for /usr/spool/mail/isma is named /usr/spool/mail/isma.lock). This file accomplishes locks (1) and (2) above. This is an exclusive lock. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_SH on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (1), and prevents lock (2). Multiple processes can do this. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (2), and prevents lock (1). This is an exclusive lock. * The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on a file on /tmp. The file name used depends upon the version of Pine. This accomplishes locks (3) and (4). This is an exclusive lock. On SVR4-based systems, the lockf() subroutine or fcntl() system call it used instead of flock(). It is rumored that this creates a kind of lock file as well, but this has not been directly verified. _NOTE: flock() on BSD systems does not work over NFS, so only the most basic .lock file locking -- locks (1) and (2) happen over NFS. On SVR4 systems, fcntl() locking attempts to work over NFS, but there are known problems in the rpc.lockd daemon which have caused hangs if an application beats on the mechanism too much (and Pine beats on it). All of the above mechanisms work reliably over IMAP connections._ [ Part 8.4: "What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mai" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What happens when two Pine sessions access the same mailbox at the same time? This varies depending on what format your folders are stored in. With the default Berkeley format, the last session to open a folder will get full access to the folder and the previous session(s) will be changed to read-only access. When a folder is read-only, you will not see any further updates to that folder until it is reopened with full access. Currently the INBOX cannot be reopened without exiting and restarting Pine. With the Tenex format, any number of sessions can simultaneously have full access to a folder, with the exception that expunging is disabled. See "What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it?" for more information. [ Part 8.5: "Why did I get the message "locked, override in _XXX_ se" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why did I get the message "locked, override in _XXX_ sec"? The message "locked, will override in _xxx_ seconds" occurs when Pine has discovered that some other mail program claims to be accessing your mail folder (i.e. _folder_.lock exists). This is a very low-level lock used by programs such as the system mailer in delivering mail, and by certain programs such as mail, elm, babyl, mm, etc. Supposedly, this lock is only to be acquired and held for a very short period of time (less than a second). It starts with 285 seconds, retries every second, and issues that message every 15 seconds. The total period of time, 5 minutes, is the time that it will keep on trying before it concludes that the lock is false -- that is, that whatever program locked the folder forgot to unlock it (perhaps it crashed) -- and Pine will go ahead and claim the lock for itself. This is not due to a conflict between two copies of Pine, since Pine interlocks against itself in a higher-level fashion. _NOTE: On some systems with 14 character filename limits, attempting to open a folder with a 14 character name (e.g. saved-messages) will trigger this sequence. Folder names should be limited to 9 characters or less on those systems._ [ Part 8.6: "Why doesn't Pine recognize Content-Length header field?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why doesn't Pine recognize Content-Length header field? It would be a significant detriment to the performance of the Berkeley format mailbox parsing code, as well as to Pine's behavior on normal systems which do not use the Content-Length: header, if any attempt were made to implement Content-Length:. There are many serious technical problems with the Content-Length: header, and we do not recommend its use. Furthermore, we recommend that a mail delivery agent such as our sendit or tmail tool be used that applies smart quoting, as opposed to the ordinary BSD /bin/mail quoting of all lines that begin with "From ". We have installed such tools on all of our systems. For example, one problem is that a system whose mailer does not implement Content-Length: will also not enforce its validity should that header appear. This offers significant potential for mischief. Another problem is that Berkeley format mailbox files which use the Content-Length: header can not be edited with an editor such as emacs or vi without invalidating the Content-Length: field. If this problem is not a consideration at your site, we recommend the use of the tenex format (mail.txt), which is also length tagged but in a much more efficient fashion. >From our perspective, these problems outweigh any possible benefit of supporting Content-Length: in Berkeley format mailbox files. At the present time there are no plans to do so. [ Part 9.1: "How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into t" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I "paste" an address from the addressbook into the text of a message? Pine does not currently support this directly, but here is a work-around: 1. Move the cursor to the Cc: line. 2. Enter the nickname or press Ctrl-T to search the addressbook and select the entry. 3. Use Ctrl-K to delete that address from the Cc: line. 4. Move the cursor where you want it in the body of the message. 5. Press Ctrl-U to insert the address. This is a round-about way to get the job done, but it works... [ Part 9.2: "How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressb" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I convert Berkeley Mail aliases to Pine Addressbook? The Pine source distribution includes a shell script to do this in the contrib/utils directory. It is called brk2pine.sh. [ Part 9.3.1: "How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook?" ] From: Klaus Wacker Subject: How do I convert Elm aliases to Pine Addressbook? I wrote my own perl script, which I claim digests everything elm accepts and converts it into something pine accepts. Please tell me if you find otherwise. I intend to use this script regularly to keep system-wide aliases and addressbooks in synch. It is archived at: http://www.Physik.Uni-Dortmund.DE/wacker/elm-to-pine A copy is below. [Part 9.3.2, "elm-to-pine: Convert elm aliases file to Pine Addressbook" Text 42 lines] [Unable to print this part] [ Part 10.1: "Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can Kerberos or AFS authentication be used with Pine? Not yet, but Kerberos support is planned for a future release of Pine. If you have access to Kerberos or AFS compatible IMAP clients already, the following information may be useful. The current version of imapd does not support AFS or Kerberos authentication. However, the routine which validates authentication is designed as a drop-in module, to allow you to replace with alternative authentication schemes such as AFS, Kerberos, S/Key, etc. This routine is server_login(). Depending upon which version of c-client you have, it is either in the os__xxx_.c (where _xxx_ is the name of your port) or it is in a file named log__yyy_.c which is included by the os_xxx.c file. The log__yyy_.c is usually log_std.c (std for "standard UNIX"), but it may be log_sv4.c (SVR4) or a couple of other variants. This file only contains that one routine, so it should be a simple matter to modify that file and rebuild imapd. [ Part 10.2: "Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Can PC-Pine be used with a POP server? No. Neither Pine nor PC-Pine currently support POP's offline mail model (wherein pending mail is pulled from the mail server to the local machine and deleted from the server). However, it is likely that this model will be supported, with a choice of either IMAP or POP as the access protocol, in a future release. [ Part 10.3: "What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is a Tenex mailbox and why should I use it? Using the Tenex format for INBOXes allows multiple sessions (or mulitple users, subject to the usual access controls) to have *almost* full Read-Write access to the INBOX. The only limitation on full RW access is that if there are multiple sessions at a given moment, no one can do an Expunge. However, message state changes (e.g. marking a msg as deleted) *can* be done, and this state is preserved across sessions. If an explicit Expunge command fails, it will say so and tell you that the mailbox is in use by another process. When there is only one session left using that mailbox, expunge will resume working again. In contrast: the normal Berkeley style folders can have only one RW client at a time, so _given the current software_ the latest session steals the RW lock away from any previous session, with the earlier session becoming RO. NOTE: Mailbox format for INBOX is a function of the mail transfer agent (sendmail, tmail), not the mail user agent (Pine), so this is a decision for sys/mail admins, not for regular Pine users. [ Part 10.4: "Where does Pine look for configuration information?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Where does Pine look for configuration information? In Unix and PC Pine 3.90 and higher, the Release Notes (Press "R" on the Main Menu) contain a section on Configuration, including default file names and environment variables. Almost all personal configuration can be accomplished through the Setup (S) command on the main menu. Unix Pine uses three configuration files: a system-wide defaults file, a system-wide non-overridable settings file and a personal coniguration file. If you need to generate a "blank" copy of the system wide configuration files, run "pine -conf > /usr/local/lib". If, for some reason, you need to generate a blank personal configuration file, run "pine -P pinerc.blank". [ Part 10.5: "How do I make Pine work with my older terminal?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I make Pine work with my older terminal? Pine does not support some older terminals (e.g. tvi925, WYSE-60) very well. Some problems can be overcome with a proper termcap entry, but others, such as handling cursor keys, do not have a good solution. [ Part 10.6: "How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail? You have several options: 1. Leave inbox in /usr/spool/mail, but turn on the Pine option to prompt users to move read messages to a folder in their home directory upon exiting Pine. 2. Modify your mail delivery program to deliver mail directly into the user's home directory, and specify that inbox-path in your global pine.conf (See the "tmail" program on ftp.cac.washington.edu for an example.) 3. "touch mail.txt" in each home directory, which will cause Pine (upon startup) to pull mail from /usr/spool/mail into ~/mail.txt -- however, mail.txt will be a Tenex-format, rather than Berkeley mail format folder (faster, but non-standard). 4. Link in the "mbox" driver when you build Pine. This driver will (upon Pine startup) pull mail from /usr/spool/mail into ~/mbox, which will be a Bky-format folder. [ Part 11.1: "To what platforms has Pine been ported?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: To what platforms has Pine been ported? The Pine distribution includes binaries for AIX 3.2 (on RS/6000), HP/UX 9.0, Linux 1.1, NeXTStep (on NeXT hardware), SunOS 4.1 (on SPARCStations), Solaris 2.2, Ultrix 4.1 and 4.2 (on DECStations), MS-DOS (PC-Pine) and MS-Windows (PC-Pine for Windows). PC-Pine is available for the following TCP/IP stacks: FTP's PC/TCP, University of Waterloo's WATTCP stack with packet drivers, Novell's LAN Workplace, Sun's PC/NFS, and Winsock. Pine has been compiled on other UNIX platforms (4.3 Berkeley UNIX, DEC OSF/1 V1.2A, Dynix/PTX V1.4.0, VAX Ultrix 4.1, A/UX 3.0, BSD/386 Gamma 4.1, Convex, Dynix 3.0 and 3.1 on Sequent Symmetry, Interactive Systems Corporation UNIX, Silicon Graphics IRIS with IRIX 4.0.1, SCO Unix, System V release 4) as well. [ Part 11.2: "Pine 3.89 on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.3 crashes e" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Pine 3.89 on an IBM RS/6000 running AIX 3.2.3 crashes every time I try to open a folder. Some AIX distributions apparently include a compiler that does not correctly compile certain constructs used in Pine 3.89 and earlier. We think that Pine 3.90 works around the problems but it is difficult for us to confirm this since there is considerable variation among AIX systems. We have also not been able to identify a particular version or patch of AIX or the compiler that is the culprit. [ Part 11.3: "I cannot compile under SCO unix, why not?" ] From: Gunther Anderson Subject: I cannot compile under SCO unix, why not? Pine has been tested and compiles just fine on a suitably equipped SCO Unix 3.2.4, and probably works on the whole 3.2 series (testing has not been as extensive). It handles both MMDF and sendmail mailboxes without needing recompilation. It should be sufficient just to unpack the source tree and run "sh build sco" at the top level. You need to own the complete Development System, and the Developer's Versions of the other packages. Pine will not compile without TCP/IP support. The most common problem is when people own the Development System, but keep getting missing header files (netbd.h is one) in their builds. This is a common problem on SCO systems because of the great fragmentation SCO enjoys in the marketing of system components. It is easy to get confused about just what you've bought. And in this case, haven't bought. What you need is the "Developer's Version" of the TCP/IP product. The normal version just supports the TCP/IP protocol, but doesn't include tools (including header files) to compile TCP/IP-specific programs. Alas, the only remedies available to you are to pick up a pre-compiled version (mine is on odi.cwc.whecn.edu, ftp.celestial.com has their own, which prefers Bezerk mailboxes, though it supports MMDF too), or to buy the Developer's Version of TCP/IP. If you intend to do any serious compiling of Internet- available programs, I'd recommend the latter, though many of the most useful ones are available precompiled on other FTP sites. [ Part 12.1: "Why should I use the builtin Bug Report command?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why should I use the builtin Bug Report command? Using the built-in Bug Report command (B on the Main Menu or any Help screen) is useful because it will automatically include configuration information that may be essential to determining the cause of the problem you are experiencing. It also gives you the opportunity to conveniently include the current message as an attachment in case you believe that the problem is specific to that message. [ Part 12.2: "Why does the Bug Report Screen come up when I didn't as" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: Why does the Bug Report Screen come up when I didn't ask for it? We don't know yet. [ Part 12.3: "I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix i" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: I have found a bug in Pine 3.05. Could you please fix it? When a bug is identified in an old release, there is a very strong possibility that the associated code has been re-written to the point that a fix will not apply to the current release. Hence, if we can't reproduce the problem in the current version, our standard response will be to ask you to upgrade. [ Part 13.1: "What are the current versions of Pine and related softw" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What are the current versions of Pine and related software? The current version of Pine is 3.91. The current version of Pico is 2.5. [ Part 13.2: "What is new in this version of Pine?" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What is new in this version of Pine? These are the changes and improvements since Pine 3.89: * Finished all the "Not implemented yet" commands: + Bounce (Remail) + Flag (Set message status) + Pipe (Pipe msg to external cmd; Unix only) + Select,Apply,Zoom (Aggregate operations) + Setup/Config (Pinerc configuration screen) * News posting * News subscription/unsubscription * Multiple address books * Postpone multiple messages * Customizable headers for Composer * Mailcap support * Improved support for multiple incoming message folders * enable-alternate-editor-implicitly feature (except for editing headers) * All .pinerc features now settable from command line * Way to control which options are user-configurable (Unix only) * Way to have Save *not* implicitly delete * Way to use current-working-directory for Export, Read File, etc. * A _preliminary_ version of PC-Pine for Windows/Winsock (but not OS/2) [ Part 13.3: "When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) schedule" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: When is the next release of Pine (tentatively) scheduled? We don't know right now. 3.92 is under active development, but no dates yet. Besides, our track-record on meeting projected release schedules is terrible, so you shouldn't believe any dates we are foolish enough to suggest anyway. [ Part 13.4: "What new features will the future releases of Pine incl" ] From: The Pine Development Team Subject: What new features will future releases of Pine include? The list for 3.92 is not frozen yet. This release will have a number of bug fixes, but it will also introduce several new features. Some of the things we know will be there include: o Fix for some pine.conf variables not working (e.g. local bug address). o Delete flag will no longer be preserved on Save. o Bky mbox format performance bug fixed. o Reply prompt will change if there is a Newsgroups header present. o Improvements in software flow-control handling. o Improvements in bug report command. o Ability to specify an alternative to the sendmail MTA. o Support for negotiating 8BITMIME with an ESMTP server. o Mouse support for use with X terminals. o Pull-down command menus in the Windows version. o Feature to disable capture of pipe command output. o Ability to use mailcap viewer for attachments of type TEXT. o Support for .mime.types file to specify attachment types. After 3.92 is released, here are a few of the things that we plan to work on: * Additional MIME support, esp. controlling file TYPING * PEM and/or PGP support * External directory services access * Kerberos support * RFC1522 header encoding for 8bit character sets * Location independence of support files * Offline support * Hierarchy support (awaits IMAP4) * Answered flag not set if reply is postponed (awaits IMAP4) * Faster detection of folders with Recent messages (awaits IMAP4) * Faster fetching of headers (awaits IMAP4) * Determination of which flags are permanent (awaits IMAP4) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 12:59:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04798; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:59:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27560; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:39:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27554; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:39:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhkEZ-00038HC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lc@oasis.icl.co.uk (Liam Crilly) Subject: Re: Mayday...I need HELP!!! Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 12:02:02 GMT Status: O X-Status: Barbara Marschke wrote: [...] » I cannot believe this. I was trying to change my setup in pine according » to the help manual and somehow I deleted all of my folders except my » inbox. It won't even let me make a new folder. What could I have done. » I have saved sooooo much good information in there and now it all gone. It's more likely that you've changed the "folder-collections" line than actually deleting all of your folders. Choose [Config] from the Setup menu and delete any value from the "folder-collections" line. If, after restarting Pine, you still can't access your folders check what someone else has their "folder-collections" line set to and try that. I hope that works! Liam. -- ++ Liam Crilly ++ lc@oasis.icl.co.uk ++ http://www.herts.ac.uk/~cs3ba/ ++ ++ SPEC representative, Performance Benchmarking & Sizing, ICL, Bracknell. ++ -- -- ++ "Davy man don't tell the man that! Marzipan is private!" - Donald Stott ++ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 13:10:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05973; Thu, 23 Feb 95 13:10:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27934; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:55:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27928; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:55:23 -0800 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id PAA19652; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:54:13 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:54:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: Deborah Leah Blackner Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pls. Help Non-UNIX person with uuencode In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 18 Feb 1995, Deborah Leah Blackner wrote: > Could someone please tell me the steps to uuencode a binary file (it's a > .gif to be specific) and then attach it to a pine mail message. I have > read the cryptic man page on uuencode and tried to follow the directions > given, but have been unsuccessful. Assume the file is called "picture.gif" and it is in your home directory. Do the following: 1. UUEncode the file via the command uuencode picture.gif picture.gif > picture.uue 2. Start up Pine. 3. Compose your message. 4. Move to the end of the message (include the signature if any - go all the way to the end.) 5. Press the CONTROL-R key sequence. 6. Supply the name "picture.uue" to the prompt asking for the file name to include. 7. Press CONTROL-X to send the message. 8. Exit Pine. 9. Delete the uuencoded file via the command rm picture.uue The command in Step 1 encodes the file so that it may later be re-incarnated under the same name. The first parameter is the name of the input file. The second parameter is the name that uudecode will use when the file is re-created (generally they are the same). The "> picture.uue" re-directs the output of the uuencode command to the file "picture.uue" (you can use any name that makes you happy - it's just a temporary file anyway.) As with most Unix things there are alternate ways of doing the same thing, but I find this is the simplest. You don't even need to invoke Pine to send it - if all you want to do is send the file without including a message, try the command uuencode picture.gif picture.gif | mail -s "Subject text" user@host This will encode the file and mail it in one step to the target user ("user@host") with the subject "Subject text" and the body containing only the encoded file. To extract and decode the file, do 1. Launch Pine. 2. Highlight the message at the index or read it. 3. Enter the CONTROL-E combination to extract the message to a file. 4. Supply any file name at the prompt; generally I use "mcn" because they are my initials and easy to type... :{) 5. Exit Pine. 6. Enter the command uudecode your-file-name where "your-file-name" is the name of the file you supplied in Step 4. UUDECODE will create a file with the same name as the second argument supplied on the uuencode command line. This can be annoying at times, because sometimes you don't know what the encoded file name was. The easiest way to find that out is to do the command grep begin your-file-name where again "your-file-name" is the name you saved the file as. You'll see a line something like begin 666 new-file-name where "new-file-name" is the name uudecode will use when it rebuilds the file. In some Unix systems (Sunos for example) if there are spaces in the file name only the first part is used; for example if you see begin 666 My file the new file will be called "My". The number is the protection mode the file will be created with; generally it's 666 [anyone can read and write the file], 755 [the owner can read write and execute the file, others can read and execute it], or some other combination. You need to be a bit careful using uudecode on files sent by other people; for example, if the begin line looks like begin 755 .login the decoded file will replace your .login file (with possibly un-amusing results the next time you log in...) Remember - on the Net, ALWAYS look a gift file in the mouth! :{) [Note my forebearance in working ".gif" into this...] Hope this helps, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 13:13:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06126; Thu, 23 Feb 95 13:13:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24996; Thu, 23 Feb 95 13:04:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24986; Thu, 23 Feb 95 13:04:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhkPW-00038bC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 12:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thu@sun3.oulu.fi (Thomas Ulich) Subject: Re: + Flag not quite right Date: 22 Feb 1995 21:21:30 GMT Message-Id: <3ig9sq$o68@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Ryan C. Welty (weltyrc@mail.auburn.edu) wrote: : Mail that is addressed only to me should have a + beside it right? I'm on ... : didn't have the + beside it. How does pine decide what gets a + and what I think it is a reason to get a new feature to the next version???? As far as I interpret it, pine compares the address of the account you are reading mail from with the address in the To: field. Identical means it gets the +. The problem in my case is (and I think that this becomes relevant to more and more people) that we use here generic mail addresses, i.e., my address is thomas.ulich@oulu.fi, but that's not at all an account, its only an alias on our main server. If now somebody sends mail to that address, I don't get the +, because pine thinks, that it is some mailing list or whatever. I actually would in my case prefer that pine completely forgets about the machine I am writing from (NIS, always a different one), and uses ONLY the generic address (defined to it by me) for sending mails. Now it is defined only in the reply-to, so the other address still appears some- where. Regards, -- Thomas Ulich Tel.: ++358-(9)81-554 7042 !!!NEW: thomas.ulich@oulu.fi Inuits say: He who looks long upon the aurora soon goes mad. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 13:54:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07706; Thu, 23 Feb 95 13:54:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29254; Thu, 23 Feb 95 13:36:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29248; Thu, 23 Feb 95 13:36:13 -0800 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id QAA19746; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 16:33:43 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 16:33:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: Don Sugarman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IP Products In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 23 Feb 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > We are currenlty experimenting with a dial-up connection using a 'Shiva > box'. When we log in, the Shiva box assigns an IP address for that session. > > We are using an MS TCP/IP product, which requires that the user update the > IP address each time we log in to match the IP address assigned by the > Shiva box. > > Does anyone know of an IP product that will recognize and use the > Shiva-assigned address automagically? Does the MS product allow you to set the IP address to 0.0.0.0 (or some other mangy value) and get it's information via BOOTP? We do that with Chameleon, SuperTCP (SuperTCP has to be upgraded to at least V3.5 for this to work), InterSLIP, MacPPP, and VersaTerm SLIP (the latter 3 for Mac systems) dialing up through Annex systems and it works great. I believe Trumpet also supports this... Of course, that assumes the Shiva responds properly to BOOTP requests... Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 14:44:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10016; Thu, 23 Feb 95 14:44:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27166; Thu, 23 Feb 95 14:27:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27160; Thu, 23 Feb 95 14:27:37 -0800 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id RAA19872; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 17:26:26 -0500 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 17:26:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: Mike Rollins Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Transferring Message Files? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Assuming your folder-collections is "mail/[]" (that is, all your pine Email is stored in the directory tree "mail" in your main directory, you cold do: 1. Rename the mail collection (I find it easier to do at the source than the destination): mv mail oldmail 2. Create a container file so that you can transfer the entire tree easily between providers: tar cf oldmail.tar oldmail Note that on some systems you can do tar czf oldmail.tgz oldmail to create a gnu-zipped tar file, or tar cZf oldmail.tar.Z oldmail to create a compressed tar file (note that the gzip utility compresses better than the stock compress utility, but these may not be available at your particular site.) 3. ftp "oldmail.tar" to your new machine: ftp new.machine username: ...put in your new username... password: ...put in your new password... ftp> binary ftp> put oldmail.tar (or oldmail.tgz or oldmail.tar.Z) ftp> exit 4. remove the container file: rm oldmail.tar (or oldmail.tgz or oldmail.tar.Z) 5. Log into your new machine. 6. Unbundle your old mail: tar xf oldmail.tar -or- tar xzf oldmail.tgz -or- tar xZf oldmail.tar.Z 7. Remove the container file: rm oldmail.tar (or oldmail.tgz or oldmail.tar.Z) 8. Add "oldmail/[]" to your folder-collections. You should have your old mail available. When you are satisfied with this, 9. Log into your old account and delete your old mail: rm -R oldmail Hope this helps, Mike On Mon, 6 Feb 1995, Mike Rollins wrote: > Date: Mon, 6 Feb 1995 09:24:41 -0500 (EST) > From: Mike Rollins > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Transferring Message Files? > > > I am in the process of changing service providers. > What I would like to do, is take my Pine read-mail file from > my current provider, and transfer it (using a different name) > to my new account, while keeping the individual messages in > usable condition as messages to which I can reply from within > Pine. What would be the best way for me to go about doing > this? Are there any specific problems that I should watch > out for? Is there a specifications file available, which I > could use as a template for any editing that I might be > required to do? All advise regarding this problem will be > most welcome! > > Mike Rollins > mr@world.std.com > mjr@conan.ids.net > Speaking only for myself. > > Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 14:53:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10568; Thu, 23 Feb 95 14:53:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00785; Thu, 23 Feb 95 14:32:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00779; Thu, 23 Feb 95 14:32:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhm40-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 14:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mike Lipscomb Subject: Taking addresses with Pine 3.91 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 14:21:00 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi all, is there a way to take addresses and add them to an existing addressbook without having to mark them, apply the take, and save it to an addressbook list? I'd like to just take an address for an individual message but currently they must be marked with the ";" before I can do this? is this something for the wish list? TIA, -Mike- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 15:55:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13456; Thu, 23 Feb 95 15:55:48 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29188; Thu, 23 Feb 95 15:47:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29182; Thu, 23 Feb 95 15:47:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhnEQ-00038KC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 15:46 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tktw@ellis.uchicago.edu (Thomas Wong) Subject: SGI's pine Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 20:59:33 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is there a pine binary for SGI available somewhere on the net? I couldn't find one on ftp.cac.wahington.edu. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 16:32:48 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15420; Thu, 23 Feb 95 16:32:48 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03656; Thu, 23 Feb 95 16:27:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03650; Thu, 23 Feb 95 16:27:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhnrT-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 16:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ixoth Subject: Please help w/mass forwarding Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 21:33:24 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I am on a mailing list that is getting thrown off the server on March 31. If I need to be fowarding all the mail to the rest of the list, I would really appreciate any and all help you can give. TIA. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 16:39:00 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15642; Thu, 23 Feb 95 16:39:00 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03709; Thu, 23 Feb 95 16:30:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from motgate.mot.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03703; Thu, 23 Feb 95 16:30:16 -0800 Received: from pobox.mot.com by motgate.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1 for ) id AA14894; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 18:30:14 -0600 Received: from po_box.cig.mot.com by pobox.mot.com with SMTP (5.67b/IDA-1.4.4/MOT-3.1) id AA28322; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 18:30:13 -0600 Received: from otter.cig.mot.com (otter.cig.mot.com [136.182.254.1]) by po_box.cig.mot.com (8.6.10/SCERG-RELAY-1.11) with ESMTP id TAA28618; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 19:31:31 -0500 Received: (ellis@localhost) by otter.cig.mot.com (8.6.9/SCERG-1.11) id SAA06944; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 18:30:11 -0600 Message-Id: <199502240030.SAA06944@otter.cig.mot.com> To: ellis@cig.mot.com X-Loop-Mailnews: comp.mail.pine From: Ted Stern Subject: Re: Using Pine Composer as Pnews replacement Date: Mon, 20 Feb 1995 14:21:56 -0800 Organization: University of Washington Nntp-Posting-Host: duckabush.amath.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, gifford@umich.edu In-Reply-To: <3i19oh$83h@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Status: O X-Status: On 17 Feb 1995, Scott Gifford wrote: > The Pine composer has a very clever way of integrating the mail/news > header and the message body. Is there any way to invoke the composer, > with the headers, on a news article from a newsreader other than Pine? > I'd like some way to set it up as an editor, so when I reply to a news > article in tin (or in some other newsreader) it fills out the header > part, then tosses me into the editor, and when I'm done creates a very > attractive news message suitable for sending to inews. > > If there's no good way, anybody got any good ideas for a hack? :) > > ------Scott. > Have you tried reading your news in Pine? That seems the easiest. If not, you could read your news using "gnus" in Emacs, which has even _more_ clever ways of inserting the article being replied to. -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 16:57:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16356; Thu, 23 Feb 95 16:57:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00707; Thu, 23 Feb 95 16:48:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00701; Thu, 23 Feb 95 16:48:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rho90-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 16:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: spell checker missing Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 10:28:20 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: There are instructions for using ispell with Pine in the FAQ. You can get a copy by sending a message to pine-faq@docserver.cac.washington.edu or from ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 16 Feb 1995, Master of Wonder wrote: > Date: Thu, 16 Feb 1995 17:08:15 GMT > From: Master of Wonder > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: spell checker missing > > > I posted once before, I got zero response. This is my second request. > I'm using Linux, with PINE 3.90. There is no "spell" program. I > can't seem to find one anywhere on the net. The closest I've come > is "ispell", which is an interactive spell checker, which doesn't > seem to work with PINE very well. Does anyone know where I can > get the spell program for Linux, or how to make ispell work well > with PINE??? Thanks in advance!!! > > - Andy > > P.S. Please email, I'm not sure if news is 100% reliable yet. > -- > My company does analysis, design, porting, troubleshooting, integration, > installation, configuration, networking and porting of systems using > Unix/C/X windows. Email me if your company is looking to outsource to a > competent supplier of programming services that provides complete solutions. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 17:20:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17906; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:20:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04905; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:13:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04899; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:13:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhoW3-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Help Printing Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 10:42:01 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Take a look at the Pine FAQ question on 'Why doesn't "attached-to-ansi" printing work?' for some hints... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 17 Feb 1995 hirshaut@yu1.yu.edu wrote: > Date: 17 Feb 95 11:42:32 GMT > From: hirshaut@yu1.yu.edu > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Help Printing > > I recently posted a message asking how to print directly from pine to my > home printer. I am attached to the host computer via terminal and > modem, VT 100. My home printer is attached to my terminal via a parallel > port. I presume that I must somehow designate my home printer as a > destination to the unix shell. > > Several people have contacted me indicating they have the same problem > and asking for the answers I have received. So far none. > > If you know who might have the answer or if there is another newsgroup to > question, please reply. > > Thank you. > hirshaut@yu1.yu.edu > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 17:21:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17962; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:21:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01527; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:13:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01521; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:13:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhoW4-00038HC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: reply-to? Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 10:42:42 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Not in Pine 3.89, but there is in the current Pine 3.91 release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 17 Feb 1995, Thomas wrote: > Date: Fri, 17 Feb 1995 19:03:51 > From: Thomas > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: reply-to? > > Is there a way to set a reply-to header using Pine? It apparently understands > that header on incoming mail, but I can't find any key (nor information in the > help and man pages) that does it. Is it even possible? I'm using Pine 3.89, > compiled for Linux. Thanks. > > Thomas > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 17:22:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18027; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:22:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04913; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:13:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04907; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:13:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhoWJ-00038KC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: random signatures Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 10:47:26 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- This is requested quite often, but not high on our to-do list... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 18 Feb 1995, Stephen R. Wylie wrote: > Date: 18 Feb 1995 04:59:55 -0800 > From: Stephen R. Wylie > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: random signatures > > > > i can point Tin to a directory full of signatures and have it pick a > random sig when I post. is this ability available with pine [which i use > for mail only]? > > I'm using 3.89 on linux. > > thanx. > > > srw > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Stephen R. Wylie http://www.mindspring.com/~swylie/ > computer geek Internet Email: swylie@wylie.com > Linux Freak For PGP public key, Finger ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > 82KZ550-C or send mail to above addr. with Subject: get pubkey > Atlanta, GA Vote Democratic; it's easier than getting a JOB!! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQBVAwUBL0zYS9/IU4uTDdHNAQEkWgIAun++aeYu70oAiADyxDUzQA1N/jCjCd4N s4BL1UccQo38UmnpHWbExicfMwITz22XRj5BwXN+YGCnKOgRpMgJ4w== =lY9w -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 17:32:27 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18466; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:32:27 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01716; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:23:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01710; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:23:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhohh-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: juanfisc@netcom.com (Juanita Fischer) Subject: REading pine mail off-line? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 21:18:45 GMT Status: O X-Status: Is it possible for me to download my inbox from my UNIX shell account to read the mail off-line on my PC? Would PCPINE accomplish this? How would I do it? Thanks in advance for your help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 17:43:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18854; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:43:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01946; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:33:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01938; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:33:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhosT-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Spool Directory Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 10:53:22 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3i54oe$hr2@mother.usf.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3i54oe$hr2@mother.usf.edu> Status: O X-Status: Check the Pine FAQ under the question: 'How do I configure Pine to not leave mail in /usr/spool/mail?' |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 18 Feb 1995, Kalyanram Kidambi wrote: > Date: 18 Feb 1995 15:46:22 GMT > From: Kalyanram Kidambi > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Spool Directory > > Hi, > > We have lots of users who subscribed to newsgroups and once a week > it fills up /usr/spool/mail.. since these users fo not check their > mail regularly (That's why even mild verbal threats do not work).. Is > there a > way in pine, to spool the messages in invidual home directories.. > since quota is enabled on the file system, they will be forced to > delete or atleast see the > magnitude of the problem.. > > Thanks > > Kalyan > Dept of Electrical Engineering > University of South Florida > > (University of Sun and Fun) :-) > > > -- > > **************************************************************************** > > Kalyan R Kidambi > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 17:49:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19076; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:49:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05240; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:28:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05234; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:28:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhonL-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:26 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jeffs@saul2.u.washington.edu (jeff skone) Subject: readonly folders Date: 23 Feb 1995 06:12:00 GMT Message-Id: <3ih8vg$1fh@news.u.washington.edu> Status: O X-Status: All my PC-PINE folders are coming up READONLY. I can't seem to find any way to control this in either the setup or pine directory files. What's causing the readonly flag? How do I turn it off? -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 18:00:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19341; Thu, 23 Feb 95 18:00:33 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05735; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:53:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05729; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:53:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhpCL-00038HC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 17:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cc56056@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chris Clayton ) Subject: Re: readonly folders Date: 23 Feb 1995 19:15:27 GMT Message-Id: <3iimsf$4a@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <3ih8vg$1fh@news.u.washington.edu> Status: O X-Status: jeffs@saul2.u.washington.edu (jeff skone) writes: >All my PC-PINE folders are coming up READONLY. I can't seem to find any >way to control this in either the setup or pine directory files. >What's causing the readonly flag? How do I turn it off? >-- I'm not an authority on the matter, but I had the same problem I think it was because PC-Pine saves things in a slightly different (i.e. nonstandard) format. Every folder that I had downloaded from my Unix account to my PC was readonly when I opened it with PC-Pine. I went through the folders, saved them to new folders, and ditched the old ones. (In retrospect, I probably should have saved the old ones...just in case...) - Chris -- "I am more than the sum of my email!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 18:21:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19997; Thu, 23 Feb 95 18:21:57 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02649; Thu, 23 Feb 95 18:18:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02643; Thu, 23 Feb 95 18:18:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhpas-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 18:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: FAQ? Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 11:33:48 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: The FAQ is available from ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/faq or just send mail to pine-faq@cac.washington.edu. I am in the process of revising it (again) and will post a pointer when the new version is available... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Clifford A. Anderson wrote: > Date: Wed, 22 Feb 1995 21:30:08 -0900 > From: Clifford A. Anderson > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: FAQ? > > I imagine this >IS< an FAQ, but is there a c.m.p FAQ available anywhere? > I've been watchin' for about a month, and haven't noticed one yet. > > | The universe may be not only queerer than we think, but queerer than | > | we can think. * How many Zen Masters does it take to change a light | > | bulb? Two: One to change it and one not to change it. * "Would any- | > | one like some toast?" -Talkie Toaster * PGP key available via finger | > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 18:45:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20703; Thu, 23 Feb 95 18:45:38 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06519; Thu, 23 Feb 95 18:39:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06513; Thu, 23 Feb 95 18:39:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhpq7-00038HC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 18:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: demaere@unixg.ubc.ca (Eric Demaere) Subject: how to print on laserjet? Date: 23 Feb 1995 22:42:57 GMT Message-Id: <3ij31h$ikl@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: I'm telnetting into the University of British Columbia's UNIX system and using pine for my e-mail. I'm running OS2 and IBM TCPIP and have a local laserjet printer. I wish to print my e-mail messages directly to the printer but simply get the one letter per page phenomenon. When I go into setup for pine the only choice is attached to ansi which works great with a dot matix printer. Can anybody offer any help on this. Eric Demaere e-mail: demaere@unixg.ubc.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 20:01:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22984; Thu, 23 Feb 95 20:01:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04121; Thu, 23 Feb 95 19:54:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04114; Thu, 23 Feb 95 19:54:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhr5B-00038HC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 19:52 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andrew@andrew.triumf.ca (Andrew Daviel) Subject: Hanlding Message/External-body MIME mail Date: 23 Feb 1995 23:16:42 GMT Message-Id: <3ij50q$84u@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: I've got Pine 3.90, which handles my regular MIME needs OK (sending GIFs). I recently subscribed to an IETF mailing list which is sending me MIME mail with the following kind of headers: (leading "--" indented 1 space) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" To: IETF-Announce: ; X-Status: D --NextPart A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts ... etc. --NextPart Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; access-type="mail-server"; server="mailserv@ds.internic.net" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <19950221142854.I-D@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> ENCODING mime FILE /internet-drafts/draft-simpson-icmp-domain-name-00.txt --OtherAccess Content-Type: Message/External-body; name="draft-simpson-icmp-domain-name-00.txt"; site="ds.internic.net"; access-type="anon-ftp"; directory="internet-drafts" Content-Type: text/plain Content-ID: <19950221142854.I-D@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> --OtherAccess-- --NextPart-- Pine says Parts/attachments: 1 Shown 58 lines Text 2.1 OK 156 bytes Message 2.2 Shown 78 bytes Message then [Can't display first non-text segment] if I try to access the messages. If I save the message to a new empty folder then run metamail on it it is dealt with nicely. Does Pine 3.91 support this stuff? Should I move to elm+metamail ? -- Andrew Daviel email: advax@triumf.ca TRIUMF voice: 604-222-7376 4004 Wesbrook Mall fax: 604-222-7307 Vancouver BC http://andrew.triumf.ca/~andrew Canada V6T 2A3 49D14.7N 123D13.6W From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 20:36:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24116; Thu, 23 Feb 95 20:36:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08204; Thu, 23 Feb 95 20:28:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08197; Thu, 23 Feb 95 20:28:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhrZB-00038HC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 20:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cirons@asmusa.org Subject: Can Pine? -- Oh yea! How? Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 22:56:22 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi Netters, I was wondering if pine could receive/send messages from/to a ccmail gateway on a novell network. If this is possible could someone please give me a clue as to what direction I should be going in. Email me at: cirons@asmusa.org Thanks A Bunch..... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 20:40:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA24252; Thu, 23 Feb 95 20:40:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04771; Thu, 23 Feb 95 20:33:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04765; Thu, 23 Feb 95 20:33:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhrdZ-00038KC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 20:28 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dagon@coho.halcyon.com (Mark Rafn) Subject: Read from pipe Date: 23 Feb 1995 23:03:45 GMT Message-Id: <3ij48h$138@news1.halcyon.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there any way to have the pine composer read the output from a command? Currently I have to suspend, run the command with output redirected to a file, and then read the file into the message. Thanks, Mark Rafn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 22:22:07 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27615; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:22:07 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10137; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:18:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10131; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:18:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhtIn-00038FC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:14 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rlvictor@ciagri.usp.br (Reynaldo L. Victoria) Subject: Auto Response HELP!!!!!! Date: 23 Feb 1995 23:15:23 GMT Message-Id: <3ij4ub$4he@bee.uspnet.usp.br> Status: O X-Status: How can I setup pine to do a auto response system ? Daniel From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 22:54:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28726; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:54:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06890; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:49:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06884; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:49:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhtld-00038HC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:44 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Edward A. Hunter" Subject: Help Pt 2: Keying newgroup indices Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 17:16:19 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Feb 23, 1995 re: Help Pt 2: Keying newsgroup indices Right at the outset you'll realize that I know next to nothing about all this stuff. But if you'll just bear with me, I'd appreciate it. Is there any way to key the newsgroup indices so that when I reopen a particular newsgroup my highlighter will pickup where I left off? If it makes any difference I'm running a Mac. I have absolutely no technical expertise (this translates into, "Any explanation may need to be in one syllable words"). I would appreciate any help I can get. Thanks Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 22:55:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28765; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:55:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10607; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:49:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10601; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:49:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhtlv-00038KC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:45 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Edward A. Hunter" Subject: Help Pt 1: Getting around newsgroups Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 17:15:15 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Feb 23, 1995 re: Help Pt 1: Getting around the newsgroups Picture this scenario. I am in a newsgroup, scanning the index. I find a posting that I want to look at. I move the highlighter to that posting then command "V" to see it. Now comes the rub. I want to go from that open posting directly back to the index. Is there anyway to do this? Right now, I get back to the index in a relatively round about way. When I have finished with the open posting I make the following commands: "M" to the main menu "L" to list the folder "V" to select from the expanded list "V" to view the folder which gets me back to the particular newsgroup index. Is there a way to go directly from the open posting to the newsgroup index? Thanking you ahead of time. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 23:09:23 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29336; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:09:23 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10862; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:01:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10856; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:01:23 -0800 Received: from wesson.wylie.com by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11111; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:01:21 -0800 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 02:01:27 -30000 From: "Stephen R. Wylie" Subject: Re: Auto Response HELP!!!!!! To: "Reynaldo L. Victoria" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3ij4ub$4he@bee.uspnet.usp.br> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 23 Feb 1995, Reynaldo L. Victoria wrote: > Date: 23 Feb 1995 23:15:23 GMT > From: Reynaldo L. Victoria > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Auto Response HELP!!!!!! > > How can I setup pine to do a auto response system ? > > Daniel > I use procmail 3.10... it filters my incoming mail and i have it set to autorespond as indicated in my signature... it's really great at what it does. srw ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stephen R. Wylie http://www.wylie.com/~swylie/ computer geek Internet Email: swylie@wylie.com Linux Freak For PGP public key, Finger ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 82KZ550-C or send mail to above addr. with Subject: get pubkey Atlanta, GA "I'm your icecreamman; stop me when I'm passing by" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 23:16:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29519; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:16:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07286; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:11:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07280; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:11:31 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09324; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:11:31 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 23:11:27 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: + Flag not quite right In-Reply-To: <3ig9sq$o68@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On 22 Feb 1995, Thomas Ulich wrote: > As far as I interpret it, pine compares the address of the account you > are reading mail from with the address in the To: field. Identical means > it gets the +. The problem in my case is (and I think that this becomes > relevant to more and more people) that we use here generic mail addresses, > i.e., my address is thomas.ulich@oulu.fi, but that's not at all an account, > its only an alias on our main server. If now somebody sends mail to that > address, I don't get the +, because pine thinks, that it is some mailing > list or whatever. There will be a config variable in the next version called something like "alt-addresses" which lists alternate addresses that should be considered to be you. This also slightly changes how a couple other things (like reply) work. Right now it's an additive variable, which gets added to the current name you are going by (as opposed to replacing the current name). Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 23:29:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29816; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:29:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07457; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:25:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07451; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:25:31 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09604; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:25:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 23:25:27 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Andrew Daviel Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Hanlding Message/External-body MIME mail In-Reply-To: <3ij50q$84u@nntp.ucs.ubc.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I'm having a hard time remembering whether or not this was broken in 3.90 or not and it probably isn't worth figuring it out. With 3.91 this should work fine as long as you have a properly configured mailcap (which I think you must or metamail wouldn't work). I just tried it on one of the Internet-draft messages. I viewed the message, then pressed View again to go into the attachment viewer, then moved down to 2.2 and pressed View again. This spawned the showexternal program which is what is configured in our mailcap file for message/external-body. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 23 Feb 1995, Andrew Daviel wrote: > I've got Pine 3.90, which handles my regular MIME needs OK (sending GIFs). > I recently subscribed to an IETF mailing list which is sending me MIME mail > with the following kind of headers: > (leading "--" indented 1 space) > > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; Boundary="NextPart" > To: IETF-Announce: ; > X-Status: D > > --NextPart > > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts > ... etc. > > --NextPart > Content-Type: Multipart/Alternative; Boundary="OtherAccess" > > --OtherAccess > Content-Type: Message/External-body; > access-type="mail-server"; > server="mailserv@ds.internic.net" > > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-ID: <19950221142854.I-D@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> > > ENCODING mime > FILE /internet-drafts/draft-simpson-icmp-domain-name-00.txt > > --OtherAccess > Content-Type: Message/External-body; > name="draft-simpson-icmp-domain-name-00.txt"; > site="ds.internic.net"; > access-type="anon-ftp"; > directory="internet-drafts" > > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-ID: <19950221142854.I-D@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> > > --OtherAccess-- > > --NextPart-- > > > Pine says > Parts/attachments: > 1 Shown 58 lines Text > 2.1 OK 156 bytes Message > 2.2 Shown 78 bytes Message > > then [Can't display first non-text segment] > if I try to access the messages. If I save the message to a new empty folder > then run metamail on it it is dealt with nicely. > > Does Pine 3.91 support this stuff? Should I move to elm+metamail ? > > > > > -- > Andrew Daviel email: advax@triumf.ca > TRIUMF voice: 604-222-7376 > 4004 Wesbrook Mall fax: 604-222-7307 > Vancouver BC http://andrew.triumf.ca/~andrew > Canada V6T 2A3 49D14.7N 123D13.6W > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 23:34:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29990; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:34:31 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07550; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:31:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07544; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:31:31 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09687; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:31:28 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 23:31:26 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Jay Allen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Taking addresses in list mode In-Reply-To: <3idif8$js4@rs10.tcs.tulane.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Pine3.91 bypasses the Single vs. List mode screen if there is only one address, on the assumption that you would want to create a single addressbook entry for that one address. That was an incorrect assumption. Pine3.92 will not do that, so should act the same way it acts when the person mails to list-request. There is a work-around that *may* be less painful than using cut and paste. If you Select the message (;) then Apply Take (AT) you will go into List mode in the TakeAddress screen instead of bypassing it. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 21 Feb 1995, Jay Allen wrote: > > Hi, > > I was wondering if I might find some help here. I am using PINE > 3.91 on an RS600 system (AIX V3). > > I run a mailing list where I am continually "taking" addresses to > distribution lists. My problem is as follows: > > When the mail is addressed to -request (like it's > supposed to be) or anything besides my own address) I can "take" the > address using list mode ('L'). This will allow me to take the address and > add it to the end of a distribution list. > > However, when someone uses *my* address, I cannot use the list > mode. Is there anyway around this? > > At present I have to cut and paste those addresses into my > addressbook, and it wastes so much time. Responses via mail would be > greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your help. :) > > -j- > ______________________________________________________________________________ > --- Stupidity got us into this mess -- why can't it get us out? > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Feb 23 23:40:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00271; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:40:03 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07599; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:33:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07592; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:33:42 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09712; Thu, 23 Feb 95 23:33:42 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 23:33:40 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Mike Lipscomb Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Taking addresses with Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This will work without the extra steps in 3.92. Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 23 Feb 1995, Mike Lipscomb wrote: > Hi all, > > is there a way to take addresses and add them to an existing addressbook > without having to mark them, apply the take, and save it to an > addressbook list? I'd like to just take an address for an individual > message but currently they must be marked with the ";" before I can do > this? is this something for the wish list? > > TIA, > > -Mike- > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 00:07:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00898; Fri, 24 Feb 95 00:07:08 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11771; Fri, 24 Feb 95 00:04:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11765; Fri, 24 Feb 95 00:04:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhuxo-00038FC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 00:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rareed@isca.uiowa.edu ( ) Subject: mkpgp Date: 23 Feb 1995 23:59:11 GMT Message-Id: <3ij7gf$5qj@nexus.uiowa.edu> Status: O X-Status: I've had some success with mkpgp, but the'res an annoying problem I've found with it. Anytime I want to sign my message with my PGP key, I get an error of 'invalid if format' and it ends the program without doing anything. :( I'm no csh script editor, so I really can't figure out what's going on. If anyone has had this problem and knows how to fix it, it'd be much appreciated. =) -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Reed (Axe-man at large) \ "We are the Mighty-Morphin' Axe-men!" | | rareed@lust.isca.uiowa.edu \ - "Wacked" Dan "Al" Chapman | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 01:28:03 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02820; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:28:03 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12994; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:24:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12988; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:24:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhwCk-00038KC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: PGP and Pine Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 19:55:36 -0600 References: <3if1sj$h97@nexus.uiowa.edu> In-Reply-To: <3if1sj$h97@nexus.uiowa.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Sorry to post this here, but... ----- Transcript of session follows ----- While connected to icaen6.icaen.uiowa.edu: >>> RCPT To: <<< 550 ... User unknown 554 rareed@isca.uiowa.edu... 550 User unknown ----- Unsent message follows ----- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 22 Feb 1995 rareed@isca.uiowa.edu wrote: Date: 22 FEB 1995 09:58:43 GMT From: rareed@isca.uiowa.edu Newgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: PGP and Pine Hello! I'm looking for some programs, shell scripts, etc. that I could use to have my email 'automagically' (or with little effort) encrypted and decrypted by PGP. If anyone would be so kind as to post the info here, or send me some email it'd be very much appreciated. Thanks! -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Richard Reed (Axe-man at large) \ "We are the Mighty-Morphin' Axe-men!" | | rareed@lust.isca.uiowa.edu \ - "Wacked" Dan "Al" Chapman | +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Send blank email to slutsky@lipschitz.sfasu.edu with Subject: mkpgp A pgp message will arrive within the hour. In the meantime finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu for my keys. When it arrives, process the message with "pgp -p" and read mkpgp.txt.uu . -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL0zit+Bu0383Om6dAQF4rwP/RFu6NefQAhFnWXh9tEQRecrvOGViLIJP mNZZmwc1XX9tiMrUDtpxN1mlpxPdv+FV8MT+gJTB6th631hWWhIDZ8l15p5lLj96 /YXBlmoOjl/2S6CDtKHTDTGdChyXNZxe75MdFtly8P6fIrIz7mKLx5SciDpMchl/ WkBU81RoOFk= =DDH9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 01:28:19 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02848; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:28:19 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09250; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:24:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09244; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:24:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhwCh-00038FC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: Re: PGP and Pine Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 19:46:05 -0600 References: <3if1sj$h97@nexus.uiowa.edu> In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, David L Miller wrote: Pine 3.92 will have provisions to filter incoming and outgoing messages through PGP, or whatever. In the mean time, take a look at the mkpgp script that is mentioned here occasionally... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 22 Feb 1995 rareed@isca.uiowa.edu wrote: > Date: 22 Feb 1995 09:58:43 GMT > From: rareed@isca.uiowa.edu > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: PGP and Pine > > Hello! I'm looking for some programs, shell scripts, etc. that I could use > to have my email 'automagically' (or with little effort) encrypted and > decrypted by PGP. If anyone would be so kind as to post the info here, or > send me some email it'd be very much appreciated. > > Thanks! > > -- > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Richard Reed (Axe-man at large) \ "We are the Mighty-Morphin' Axe-men!" | > | rareed@lust.isca.uiowa.edu \ - "Wacked" Dan "Al" Chapman | > +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > Lately, I've been checking signed clear text by piping the message to "pgp -f" and adding keys by piping to "pgp -fka". When an encrypted message is piped to "pgp -f", Pine appears to hang. I just discovered that it's really waiting for the passphrase. Type it in and presto, a decrypted message in the viewer. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.1 Comment: Processed by mkpgp, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAgUBL0zlyuBu0383Om6dAQG4YwQAxB81RSTn8Z6VmUIJoYrRTEdknScjPXmv mjdNDHVWRm1fLZEBIpgl/nMhqDfUN+BJmHdoraGFKOGYi9qFG28FOajfg1C3Triy ict8Hwe/V+rfR+KlLVEYJG5FXy3mkkLuDndD3+kfGXTA1q9hKP+kXE9M0KWuHn6Y tYw32VIdeWs= =NHmx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc finger deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu | pgp -fka +force "The strongest reason for the people to retain their right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government." -- Thomas Jefferson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 01:58:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03589; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:58:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09653; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:54:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09647; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:54:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhwd1-00038FC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 01:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gildas PERROT Subject: REPOST : upppercase characters in e-mail address Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 17:04:54 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi, I am using sendmail 8.6.9 on IRIX 5.3. I would like to make our email addresses (both *username* and *domainname*) insensitive to uppercase characters. I mean that I want to make possible that people use the address Perrot@GRBB.PolyMtl.ca (for example) instead of perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca. I make this possible for local adresses (ex : Perrot instead of perrot) by removing the 'u' F flag in the line below : #Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=EDFMlsmu, S=10, R=20, A=mail -s -d $u Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=EDFMlsm, S=10, R=20, A=mail -s -d $u 1) I tried to modify the Mether line without success for complete address (used by people from outside our domain). #Mether, P=[IPC], F=mDFMXCu, S=11, R=21, E=\r\n, A=IPC $h Mether, P=[IPC], F=mDFMXC, S=11, R=21, E=\r\n, A=IPC $h 2) Furthermore, by doing the modification for local user, I am not able to send e-mail to people who have uppercase characters in their login name (error message : user unknown). Any idea about those 2 problems ? Thanks in advance. Gildas. # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada ------ \<, # Tel: (514) 340-4184 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (*)/ (*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 02:37:35 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04367; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:37:35 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10102; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:33:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10096; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:33:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhxIe-00038KC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Willie Sullivan Subject: Re: Stretching Pine Display In-Reply-To: <3i3slu$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <3i3slu$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 08:02:32 GMT Status: O X-Status: On 18 Feb 1995, Wet-Sprocket wrote: > Comes here Mr. David Caputo with this opinion in the "comp.mail.pine" group in > this article on 16 Feb 1995 13:57:22 GMT: > > + Can someone please tell me how to use a longer length with pine? > + I have an 80 x 35 vt320 terminal window but Pine only uses about 25 lines. > + How can I get it to use all 35? > > At the prompt before starting Pine type the following: > > % stty rows ## cols ## > > where ## is the approp. number of rows and cols. that you prefer. I have a dial up account. I received the same tip about stty. However, everytime I dialed up to connect with the internet host, I had to re-enter this command. I received another tip saying to edit my .login file and add this stty business there. It worked. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 02:40:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04439; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:40:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13848; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:33:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13841; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:33:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhxI8-00038FC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Willie Sullivan Subject: Re: Saving mail to floppy? In-Reply-To: Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: References: <3i3sdl$nlt@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 07:56:26 GMT Status: O X-Status: > > NB - I have done this from pine 3.91 on a sun box to floppy using Export. > Now the odd bit. When I tried to import it into wordperfect 6.0a, wp said > it needed converting. No suprise there it was a flat file. However wp > insisted it was in wp 4.2 format or something. I said no its a flat ascii > file. Upon loading it was all continuous text with smilies. I tried again > and let wp have its own way and it loaded fine! > I notice that WP5.2 tells me the same thing. However, I think this conversion is actually converting a Unix ASCII file to a DOS ASCII file. I have a dial up account and I've noticed that all text files I download from the Internet host have to be converted in this way. Another way to do the conversion (at least it works for me) is to first open the text file using the MS-DOS EDIT and then save it in the regular way. You can then open it using any other editor as plain DOS ASCII. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 02:42:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04506; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:42:14 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13856; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:34:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13850; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:33:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhxIr-00038HC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 02:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Willie Sullivan Subject: vt100 vs. vt102 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 08:30:39 GMT Status: O X-Status: My dos communications program, Ripterm, does not have vt100 terminal emulation. It only has vt 102. Are these two interchangeable? Is this likely to cause any problems wwith a dial up account using pine on the host computer? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 05:19:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08946; Fri, 24 Feb 95 05:19:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12355; Fri, 24 Feb 95 05:10:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12349; Fri, 24 Feb 95 05:10:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rhzlC-00038HC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 05:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: vt100 vs. vt102 Date: 24 Feb 95 13:11:20 GMT Message-Id: References: Status: O X-Status: Willie Sullivan writes: >My dos communications program, Ripterm, does not have vt100 terminal >emulation. It only has vt 102. Are these two interchangeable? Is this >likely to cause any problems wwith a dial up account using pine on the >host computer? vt102 is a superset of vt100, with additional character insertion codes, maybe a couple of other enhancements. Selecting vt100 should always work with a vt102 emulator, though not vice-versa. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt. Inst. / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 ellis@nova.gmi.edu / / / / / / Gopher,chimera,nn,tin,jove,modems, free code is best!/________/ / / / / From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 06:17:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10165; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:17:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17115; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:13:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17109; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:12:58 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13169; Fri, 24 Feb 1995 09:12:46 +0500 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 09:12:46 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: + Flag not quite right In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1136 Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 21 Feb 1995, Ryan C. Welty wrote: > Mail that is addressed only to me should have a + beside it right? I'm on > one mailing list that puts my name in the to: field, and everything from > it appears as personal mail. Today I got a message that was personal, but > didn't have the + beside it. How does pine decide what gets a + and what > doesn't? How can I fix it, at least for the one specific mailing list > that now shows everything as personal? I'm using v3.91. That happens frequently on our system (Pine 3.91, Solaris 2.3). I asked about it here several weeks ago, and the best guess anyone offered was that I was getting mail addressed to me at several alternate addresses. Not so. Mail comes to me at fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us, no other address, but Pine doesn't always mark my personal mail with a "+". -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 06:33:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10625; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:33:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17284; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:27:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17278; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:27:13 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13301; Fri, 24 Feb 1995 09:27:07 +0500 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 09:27:06 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: Steve Hubert Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: + Flag not quite right In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 961 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 23 Feb 1995, Steve Hubert wrote: > There will be a config variable in the next version called something like > "alt-addresses" which lists alternate addresses that should be considered > to be you. This also slightly changes how a couple other things (like > reply) work. Right now it's an additive variable, which gets added to > the current name you are going by (as opposed to replacing the current name). That't good news. While you're at it, how about having Pine flag mail cc'd to the user? cc'd mail can be just as important at mail addressed directly to the user, but without a flag it gets lost among all the mauling list stuff. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 06:44:26 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10956; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:44:26 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17473; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:38:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17467; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:38:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ri13C-00038HC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:31 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: olson@anchor.engr.sgi.com (Dave Olson) Subject: Re: email addresses unsensitive to uppercase Date: 24 Feb 1995 07:01:33 GMT Message-Id: <3ik08d$s1c@gazette.engr.sgi.com> References: Status: O X-Status: Gildas PERROT writes: | I would like to make our email addresses (both *username* and | *domainname*) insensitive to uppercase characters. I mean that I want | to make possible that people use the address Perrot@GRBB.PolyMtl.ca | (for example) instead of perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca. This should work with the default sendmail.cf. The hostname part will *definitely* work, and that's completely independent of sendmail. I think there was a bug in 5.2 sendmail where in aliases, case wasn't ingnored, and in 5.3, there was a bug where even program names in .forward files got forced to lower case. I think the current sendmail on ftp.sgi.com has both of these fixed. -- The most beautiful things in the world are | Dave Olson those from which all excess weight has been | Silicon Graphics removed. -Henry Ford | olson@sgi.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 07:02:04 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11360; Fri, 24 Feb 95 07:02:04 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13714; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:55:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13708; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:55:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ri1Kf-00038FC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 06:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Chivas Subject: cc:mail / x.400 address syntax Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 16:27:04 -0800 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Greetings: I have a couple of e-mail addresses that appear to be in teh x.400 style. Can someone suggest what syntax I must use to reply to either of these or compose a new message to? Thanks Jim 1. My examples are: /I=R./G=V./S=Nikitin/O=EM/P=USDOE/A=ATTMAIL/C=US/@mailgw.er.doe.gov When my user replys to this form: address he receives the following: *** cc:Mail reported the following errors *** Unknown message recipient: V. R. Nikitin ======================================================================= 2. /C=CA/ADMD=GOVMT.CANADA/PRMD=GC+WD.DEO/O=SASKATOON/S=Moore/G=Judy/ @gemdes.carleton.ca> ----- Transcript of session follows ----- 554 Judy Moore ... Service unavailable From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 08:48:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14830; Fri, 24 Feb 95 08:48:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19654; Fri, 24 Feb 95 08:39:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from alpha.loyno.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19648; Fri, 24 Feb 95 08:39:19 -0800 Received: by alpha.loyno.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/22Jul94-0234PM) id AA00518; Fri, 24 Feb 1995 10:40:36 +0100 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 10:40:35 +0100 (MET) From: Mary Aplin To: pine Subject: System-wide specification of lpr printer Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Thanks to Curt Lanza who responded to my question regarding the system-wide specification of lpr as a printer. I've managed to locate the pine.conf file (global pine settings.) What I'm NOT sure of is the syntax for the command to specify the printer. Info in the pine.conf file states that the parameters used in that file should be the same as the ones in the Setup Config menu (from the main menu.) The Setup Config menu, however, does not have a parameter for changing the printer; it's located in the Setup Printer menu. Does anyone know what parameter I need in the pine.conf file to specify lpr as the printer? Thanks, Mary Aplin Loyola University, New Orleans From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 09:38:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18402; Fri, 24 Feb 95 09:38:12 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21125; Fri, 24 Feb 95 09:25:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21119; Fri, 24 Feb 95 09:25:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ri3gP-00038KC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 09:20 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rschirme@spd.dsccc.com (Joe Schirmer) Subject: Re: PGP and Pine Date: 24 Feb 1995 15:33:00 GMT Message-Id: <3iku7c$a81@sun001.spd.dsccc.com> References: <3if1sj$h97@nexus.uiowa.edu> Status: O X-Status: Where can I find a copy of mkpgp? In article , David L Miller wrote: |-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- | | |Pine 3.92 will have provisions to filter incoming and outgoing messages |through PGP, or whatever. In the mean time, take a look at the mkpgp |script that is mentioned here occasionally... | ||\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 ||/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) |University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 |4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | |On 22 Feb 1995 rareed@isca.uiowa.edu wrote: | |> Date: 22 Feb 1995 09:58:43 GMT |> From: rareed@isca.uiowa.edu |> Newgroups: comp.mail.pine |> Subject: PGP and Pine |> |> Hello! I'm looking for some programs, shell scripts, etc. that I could use |> to have my email 'automagically' (or with little effort) encrypted and |> decrypted by PGP. If anyone would be so kind as to post the info here, or |> send me some email it'd be very much appreciated. |> |> Thanks! |> |> -- |> +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |> | Richard Reed (Axe-man at large) \ "We are the Mighty-Morphin' Axe-men!" | |> | rareed@lust.isca.uiowa.edu \ - "Wacked" Dan "Al" Chapman | |> +----------------------------------------------------------------------------+ |> |> | |-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- |Version: 2.6.2 | |iQBVAwUBL0trQ9/IU4uTDdHNAQG+IwH9EP3RrD8S5iPUCC6P+xCdVs04VFRzVcJL |LYKi+AJx2MAjrKWq6XVjjXAuiSzDv9DF5GsX6V2+99289faDA32etQ== |=4hK0 |-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- | | -- Joe Schirmer Internet: rschirme@spd.dsccc.com DSC Communications Corporation, 1000 Coit Road, Plano, Texas 75075 **** The opinions expressed are not those of DSC Communications, Inc **** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 10:41:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22130; Fri, 24 Feb 95 10:41:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18962; Fri, 24 Feb 95 10:28:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18956; Fri, 24 Feb 95 10:28:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ri4eX-00038KC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 10:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: demaere@unixg.ubc.ca (Eric Demaere) Subject: how to print on laserjet? Date: 24 Feb 1995 07:16:57 GMT Message-Id: <3ik159$knq@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: Does anybody know if PINE 3.91 accessed by a telnet session to an e-mail provider can print locally to a laserjet printer. I can't seem to make it work unless I create a log file that traps the screen dump, save the file, import it into a text editor and print it out that way. It works but its not the most elegant way of doing this I'm sure. demaere@unixg.ubc.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 10:45:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22428; Fri, 24 Feb 95 10:45:36 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19024; Fri, 24 Feb 95 10:29:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19018; Fri, 24 Feb 95 10:29:48 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20280; Fri, 24 Feb 95 10:29:39 -0800 Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 10:29:36 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Gildas PERROT Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: REPOST : upppercase characters in e-mail address In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Try sending your question to comp.mail.sendmail. That's where the sendmail experts hang out. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Thu, 23 Feb 1995, Gildas PERROT wrote: > Hi, > > I am using sendmail 8.6.9 on IRIX 5.3. > > I would like to make our email addresses (both *username* and > *domainname*) insensitive to uppercase characters. I mean that I want > to make possible that people use the address Perrot@GRBB.PolyMtl.ca > (for example) instead of perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca. > > I make this possible for local adresses (ex : Perrot instead of > perrot) by removing the 'u' F flag in the line below : > > #Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=EDFMlsmu, S=10, R=20, A=mail -s -d $u > Mlocal, P=/bin/mail, F=EDFMlsm, S=10, R=20, A=mail -s -d $u > > 1) I tried to modify the Mether line without success for complete address > (used by people from outside our domain). > > #Mether, P=[IPC], F=mDFMXCu, S=11, R=21, E=\r\n, A=IPC $h > Mether, P=[IPC], F=mDFMXC, S=11, R=21, E=\r\n, A=IPC $h > > 2) Furthermore, by doing the modification for local user, I am not able > to send e-mail to people who have uppercase characters in their login > name (error message : user unknown). > > Any idea about those 2 problems ? > > Thanks in advance. Gildas. > > > # Gildas PERROT, Associe de recherche # Ecole Polytechnique > # Institut de Genie Biomedical # C.P. 6079, Succ. Centre-Ville __o > # e-mail: perrot@grbb.polymtl.ca # Montreal H3C3A7, Canada ------ \<, > # Tel: (514) 340-4184 # Fax: (514) 340-4611 ------ (*)/ (*) > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 11:31:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25295; Fri, 24 Feb 95 11:31:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20691; Fri, 24 Feb 95 11:20:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20683; Fri, 24 Feb 95 11:20:40 -0800 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM ([3.12.38.33]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id OAA10080 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 1995 14:20:38 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA20944; Fri, 24 Feb 95 14:19:03 EST Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 14:19:02 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: E-mail CERT Alert Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Regarding the following item from Edupage, does anyone have the details? Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com MORE SECURITY PROBLEMS ON THE INTERNET The Computer Emergency Response Team has issued a public warning on a vulnerability in some 20 commonly used e-mail programs that run on Unix operating systems. The advisory said the latest discovery could allow a hacker to "read any file on the system, overwrite or destroy files." The ultimate solution to these recurrent security problems, says Purdue University professor Eugene Spafford, is for consumers to demand better security features from software manufacturers. In the absence of improved software, "are we going to continue seeing problems? You bet." (Wall Street Journal 2/23/95 B8) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 11:51:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26641; Fri, 24 Feb 95 11:51:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21321; Fri, 24 Feb 95 11:42:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from blockhead.laney.cc.ca.us by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21315; Fri, 24 Feb 95 11:42:05 -0800 Received: (from jin@localhost) by blockhead.laney.cc.ca.us (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA00626; Thu, 24 Feb 1994 11:46:18 -0800 Date: Thu, 24 Feb 1994 11:46:18 -48000 From: jin kim Subject: pc-pine help To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: hello, i am trying to set up pine for pc network (novell) and it is giving me an unable to create tcp socket (66) should the smtp server be configured as well? it is running linux 1.1.18 -jin kim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 13:29:13 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01938; Fri, 24 Feb 95 13:29:13 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27348; Fri, 24 Feb 95 13:06:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27342; Fri, 24 Feb 95 13:06:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ri77Z-00038MC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 13:00 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwards%teaching.physics@ox.ac.uk (David Edwards) Subject: Using Pico to edit News articles Message-Id: <1995Feb24.154026.25584@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 95 15:40:26 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hwi... I (and many people I know) use Pico in conjunction with Tin to post news. While this is cunning for most of the (providing a Pine like environment for editing, with all of Tin's flexibilities), there is a problem when it comes to following up to articles at the end of long threads. The problem comes from the length of the References: header, which can contain many message IDs. When it gets loaded into Pico, it is longer than 256 characters, and so it gets split up and has to be edited manually. Any work rounds? I still want word-wrap turned on, because it's so useful for writing the article body. Why is tehert this 256 character limit on loading lines, but not on editing them? -- _ _ ==========////==================================================== / //// David Edwards: Welcome to the real world... \ || _ _ //// http://sable.ox.ac.uk/~worc0058/ || || \\\\ //// edwards.teaching@physics.oxford.ac.uk || \ \\\X/// dwe101@tower.york.ac.uk Don't believe the hype... / ====\XXX/========================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 14:50:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05538; Fri, 24 Feb 95 14:50:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29390; Fri, 24 Feb 95 14:31:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29384; Fri, 24 Feb 95 14:31:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ri8Vu-00038KC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 14:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nigel@vodapage.demon.co.uk (Nigel Reed) Subject: Re: ftp? References: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 16:57:35 +0000 Message-Id: <793558655snz@vodapage.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: In article brounj@river.it.gvsu.edu "Julie A. Brown" writes: > What is ftp? Also what is Mosaic? ftp is used for transferring files from one machine to another. Mosaic produce software, Netscape for example (Or is it the other way around?) which is used to access the world wide web. -- Nigel Reed Email :nigel@vodapage.demon.co.uk Vodapage Ltd Daytime Tel:+44 1635 521800 ext 2337 21-22 Parkway Pager No. :+44 1399 741206 Voicemail +44 1399 872295 Newbury RG13 1EE Evening&W/E:+44 1635 861859 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 15:01:14 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05904; Fri, 24 Feb 95 15:01:14 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25540; Fri, 24 Feb 95 14:31:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25534; Fri, 24 Feb 95 14:31:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ri8Vk-00038HC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 14:29 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 94wongsb@scar.utoronto.ca (WONG SAMUEL H.K.) Subject: pine and mime Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:49:26 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hello, I would like to ask if anyone knows how to configure pine to use with xv to view jpg/gif? I've added the "image-viewer=xv" in .pinerc but still would work. Also, is it possible to use ghostview with pine? Thanx, Samuel Wong University of Toronto email: 94wongsb@wave.scar.utoronto.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 16:30:51 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10329; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:30:51 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28673; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:23:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28667; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:23:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riABd-00038KC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:16 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: librfdwc@magic (Denward W Collins III) Subject: re: MAC Printing - ANSI Message-Id: <1995Feb24.125100.5758@vaxa> Date: 24 Feb 95 12:51:00 EST Status: O X-Status: I'm fortunate in that my employer supplied me with VersaTerm Pro for my MAC. I use this to call up either the VAX or UNIX systems on campus and have not had a problem running Pine on either system. The y print command has also worked just fine. I'm sorry I couldn't help with the problem, just wanted to let you know that something works in the real world. -- (Standard Disclaimers apply wherein the thoughts and opinions of the author (named below) are not necessarily those of his employer Hofstra University unless explicitly stated in the message.) * - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - | Den Collins e-mail librfdwc@tinker.hofstra.edu | Clerk, Circulation Department (516) 463-5952 | Axinn Library Room 113 | 123 Hofstra University | Hempstead, Long Island, New York 11550-1090 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 16:44:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11148; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:44:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29143; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:40:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from racsys.rt.rain.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29134; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:40:12 -0800 Received: from racsys by racsys.rt.rain.com; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:21 PST Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 16:21:48 -0800 (PST) From: George Rachor Subject: Re: pine and mime To: "WONG SAMUEL H.K." <94wongsb@scar.utoronto.ca> Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Length: 564 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: This is a shot in the dark but make sure that the binary 'xv' is in your path or that you code the path into the call. Example : veiwer=/usr/local/bin/xv Good luck George Rachor george@racsys.rt.rain.com On Thu, 23 Feb 1995, WONG SAMUEL H.K. wrote: > Hello, I would like to ask if anyone knows how to configure pine to use with xv to view jpg/gif? I've added the "image-viewer=xv" in .pinerc but still would work. Also, is it possible to use ghostview with pine? > Thanx, > > Samuel Wong > University of Toronto > email: 94wongsb@wave.scar.utoronto.ca > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 16:45:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11241; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:45:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03149; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:43:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03143; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:43:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riAUQ-00038MC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 16:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Keith Johnson <74431.2155@CompuServe.COM> Subject: [Q] rot13 in Pine? Date: 24 Feb 1995 15:54:04 GMT Message-Id: <3ikves$96$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Status: O X-Status: Is there a rot13 capability when reading news from pine? I am using pine 3.91 on an HP Unix box. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 19:24:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17439; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:24:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02904; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:19:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02898; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:19:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riCwL-00038HC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Where can i get pine for SVR4? Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 11:09:54 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3i7mai$7ri@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3i7mai$7ri@freenet3.scri.fsu.edu> Status: O X-Status: The primary ftp site for Pine is ftp.cac.washington.edu. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 19 Feb 1995, Mario Garcia wrote: > Date: 19 Feb 1995 14:58:25 GMT > From: Mario Garcia > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Where can i get pine for SVR4? > > > Hi you all, can anybody tell me the best site for ftping pine code for > my at&t unix SVR4 system.? > Thanks. > Mario. > mgarcia@ns.unpma.pa > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 19:41:25 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17810; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:41:25 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07012; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:38:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07006; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:38:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riDFQ-00038QC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: calfeld@ceslab01 (Chris_Alfeld) Subject: Re: SGI's pine Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 01:27:57 GMT Message-Id: <1995Feb25.012757.5482@math.utah.edu> References: Status: O X-Status: Thomas Wong (tktw@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote: : Is there a pine binary for SGI available somewhere : on the net? I couldn't find one on ftp.cac.wahington.edu. If you have X access to a SGI try MediaMail. Enter the command: zmail -gui If you don't have X try 'zmail' by itself. I prefer it to pine. -- -Chris (calfeld@math.utah.edu calfeld@east.east-slc.edu) Home Page: http://www.math.utah.edu/~calfeld/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 19:47:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17932; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:47:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03244; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:42:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03238; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:42:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riDLc-00038KC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 19:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Clifford A. Anderson" Subject: Re: Replying to news group mail Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 10:34:17 -0900 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 21 Feb 1995 knapp@basegrp.com wrote: > Here's hoping that the only stupid question is one you do not ask. When > I reply to messages in news groups using pc pine version 3.91, it seems > to put my reply above the quoted message. How can I change it so that > the quoted message appears first, then my reply? I do not have this > problem when I send mail. Thanks for your time and help. Assuming that the PC version runs the same as the Unix version, which I imagine it does, there is an option on about the third page of the Setup Config screen that is a flag called signature-at-bottom. Set that on, then it will put your signature at the bottom, except for forwarded messages. ______________________________________________________ _________|If con is the |Given that God is infinite, and |_________ \ |opposite of pro, is |that the Universe is also | / \ |congress the opposite|infinite..... would you like a | / \ |of progress? |toasted tea cake? | / \ |------------------------------------------------------| / \ |GCS -d+ H+ s:+ g+ p? !au a- W++++ V++ C++++ UB++++ P+ | / / |L 3+ N+ E K+++ w--- M-- v-- -po+ Y+ t+ 5++ !j R G' tv+| \ / |b+ D+ B-- e+ u* h++ f+ r++ n---- y* | \ / | - PGP key available via finger| \ / |______________________________________________________| \ /____________) (___________\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 21:34:22 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20703; Fri, 24 Feb 95 21:34:22 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08478; Fri, 24 Feb 95 21:27:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08472; Fri, 24 Feb 95 21:27:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riEye-00038KC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 21:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sandy@mbnet.mb.ca (Sandy Altner) Subject: decoding pine in word perfect Date: 25 Feb 1995 03:45:45 GMT Message-Id: <3im959$8i@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> Status: O X-Status: I wrote a few days ago and still seem to be having a problem decoding pine when I pull messages into Word Perfect, either through capture (crosstalk) or copy. Word Perfect tries to convert from IA5 (whatever that is) and it still ends up being gibberish. Am I missing something obvious? This didn't happen when I had the old Pine. Anybody have any ideas on how to resolve this or even what it is? Thanks Sandy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 22:39:12 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22457; Fri, 24 Feb 95 22:39:12 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05675; Fri, 24 Feb 95 22:34:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05669; Fri, 24 Feb 95 22:34:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riFyx-00038KC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 22:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s4i@sws6.ctd.ornl.gov (Jim Simmons) Subject: pine and sendmail 8.6.10 Date: 23 Feb 1995 17:54:50 GMT Message-Id: <3iii5a$f52@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> Status: O X-Status: After installing sendmail 8.6.10 I'm getting spurious "POSSIBLE ATTACK" messages in syslog. Apparently pine is sending some lists of mail recipients with newlines in the list. You see something like this in the syslog (names have been changed to protect the guilty): Feb 23 09:47:07 testsys sendmail[892]: POSSIBLE ATTACK from jsmith@localhost: newline in string "Mike Smith , Teresa Jones , Jeff Green " This is pine 3.91 on a SunOS 4.1.3 machine. Anybody have a way around this (other than not using pine or completely disabling the check in sendmail 8.6.10)? It's adding a lot of junk to our log files. Thanks, Jim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 23:17:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23539; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:17:10 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09965; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:12:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09959; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:12:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riGbt-00038MC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sheila and Norman Lunger Subject: Re: REading pine mail off-line? Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 15:12:27 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 23 Feb 1995, Juanita Fischer wrote: > > Is it possible for me to download my inbox from my UNIX shell account to > read the mail off-line on my PC? Would PCPINE accomplish this? How > would I do it? Thanks in advance for your help. > If you can download other files from your own directory, you should be able to download your inbox. To download using xmodem you would type: "sz -y /usr/spool/mail/" ignoring the quotes and substituting your own logon. Norman Lunger lunger@planetx.bloomu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 23:17:10 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23541; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:17:10 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06260; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:12:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06254; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:12:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riGbV-00038KC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sheila and Norman Lunger Subject: Re: Help Pt 1: Getting around newsgroups Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 14:59:26 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 23 Feb 1995, Edward A. Hunter wrote: > Picture this scenario. > > I am in a newsgroup, scanning the index. I find a posting that I want to > look at. I move the highlighter to that posting then command "V" to see it. > > Now comes the rub. I want to go from that open posting directly back to > the index. Is there anyway to do this? When you're in a posting, just type "I" to return to the index. Cheers. Norman Lunger lunger@planetx.bloomu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Feb 24 23:30:49 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23903; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:30:49 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10123; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:25:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10117; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:25:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riGn0-00038KC; Fri, 24 Feb 95 23:19 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fuzzy@asarian.org (Fuzzy) Subject: pine 3.91 will not post to usenet Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 13:33:57 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: our users experience a hang, (thats both at the console, and telneted-in), trying to post to usenet. we know that the connection to the nntp server is ok, because these same users are able to read usenet from the same server acceptably. and can use the rtin nntp newsreader to post successfully. are we missing something? just about the only thing that seems to make sense is a problem with the inews standalone program, as trn is also unable to post to usenet, and it, (trn), also doesn't have a builtin inews functionality like rtin does. if this is a needed function, where can we get a linux binary for inews that will run with 0.99.pl15g/net-2e kernel? or a source tree to compile for ourselves? thanks in advance..... Your Friend, _____ __ __ ____ ____ __ __ / ___// // //__ )/__ )\ \/ / / __/ / // / / /__ / /__\ / (_/ (____/ <____/<____//_/ Email: fuzzy@asarian.org (non-anon) an72289@anon.penet.fi (true anon) wi.687@wizvax.com (true anon) anon-2986@anon.twwells.com (true anon) ================================================================= -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAy7Q/zUAAAEEAOFtrxOkBsC7FWLCDSYumgSPzirIG8HmfdNp9fjCHZZE3UhZ KRhlzGICIhsGQxPvCgb3G5nrYyUyKpRt0rmrTM2QSaeD4sp0T6GUmCeZ8OGGO896 SQBDfxq0f5ENnY0MzWmOQEnGrBt3L8QrD1cSqzkoBAuKqbSftb81DsWbcCglAAUR tCBGdXp6eSA8ZnV6enlAZnV6enkubmV3LXlvcmsubmV0Pg== =QlBC -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 08:37:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06165; Sat, 25 Feb 95 08:37:15 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13592; Sat, 25 Feb 95 08:33:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13586; Sat, 25 Feb 95 08:33:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riPO1-00038KC; Sat, 25 Feb 95 08:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scoth@cyberspace.com (Scot Harkins) Subject: Pine 3.91 and mmdf (SCO). Date: 25 Feb 1995 08:24:44 -0800 Message-Id: <3inlkc$n4c@case.cyberspace.com> Status: O X-Status: Greetings! Just pulled Pine 3.91 (from ftp.celestial.com compiled for SCO Unix 3.2.4.x) and would like to use it on a stand alone system running mmdf. When I send mail from Pine, it doesn't seem to make it into the mail system for distribution. I presume this is a function of Pine. Elm works fine here. Standard mail works, too. I understand that Pine was written for use on networked systems (the 'i' in pine). The most network these systems will see for some time is uucp (dialup). Ideas? Scot -- Scot Harkins (KA5KDU) |Lord Scot MacFin |Brand new Daddy! Renton, WA, USA |Porte de L'eau, AnTir |Herald at Large. scoth@cyberspace.com |Real men use sh & vi |Native Texan! Systems Administrator, Thurman Industries, Kirkland, WA, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 08:37:21 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06186; Sat, 25 Feb 95 08:37:21 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17192; Sat, 25 Feb 95 08:33:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17186; Sat, 25 Feb 95 08:33:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riPLI-00038FC; Sat, 25 Feb 95 08:27 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Clark Subject: Re: how to print on laserjet? Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 11:46:51 -0700 Message-Id: References: <3ik159$knq@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ik159$knq@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> Status: O X-Status: This is more a factor of your communications software than your printer. I print to a laserjet using telix on my pc and microphone on mac. Once you have the right software it is just a matter of pressing 'y' to print to your local printer. On 24 Feb 1995, Eric Demaere wrote: > Does anybody know if PINE 3.91 accessed by a telnet session to an e-mail > provider can print locally to a laserjet printer. I can't seem to make > it work unless I create a log file that traps the screen dump, save the > file, import it into a text editor and print it out that way. It works > but its not the most elegant way of doing this I'm sure. > > demaere@unixg.ubc.ca > > ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((()))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) David Clark % While the young are standing round us Technology Instructor % Of the rising generation, Boulder Valley School District % Let them learn the words of magic, clarkd@bvsd.k12.co.us % And recall our songs and legends. % -Kalevala- (((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 09:44:06 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07648; Sat, 25 Feb 95 09:44:06 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18088; Sat, 25 Feb 95 09:38:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA18082; Sat, 25 Feb 95 09:38:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riQMv-00038LC; Sat, 25 Feb 95 09:33 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bill@camco1.celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 and mmdf (SCO). Date: 25 Feb 1995 17:24:45 GMT Message-Id: <3inp4t$bai@camco.celestial.com> References: <3inlkc$n4c@case.cyberspace.com> Status: O X-Status: Scot Harkins (scoth@cyberspace.com) wrote: : Greetings! : Just pulled Pine 3.91 (from ftp.celestial.com compiled for SCO Unix : 3.2.4.x) and would like to use it on a stand alone system running mmdf. : When I send mail from Pine, it doesn't seem to make it into the mail : system for distribution. I presume this is a function of Pine. There are two versions of pine-3.91 on my system. We use the pine-3.91.tar.gz file which is compiled for use with smail-3.1.29 (a real sendmail replacement -- no MMDF mailboxes), and the other is compiled for use with stock SCO MMDF and was contributed by Gunter Anderson. The non-mmdf system works fine reading either mmdf or bsd style mailboxes, and by default sends mail via the sendmail interface on the local system. If you set smtp-server=hostname in your .pinerc file it will use SMTP instead of sendmail (smail-3.1). Of course this won't work if you don't have TCP/IP on your system. : Elm works fine here. Standard mail works, too. I understand that Pine : was written for use on networked systems (the 'i' in pine). The most : network these systems will see for some time is uucp (dialup). The I in pine doesn't have anything to do with networking (Pine is not Elm :-). Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill 2835 82nd Avenue S.E. S-100 FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 http://www.celestial.com/ SPEED COSTS MONEY -- HOW FAST DO YOU WANT TO GO? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 10:40:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08849; Sat, 25 Feb 95 10:40:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15398; Sat, 25 Feb 95 10:37:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.edmonton.ab.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15392; Sat, 25 Feb 95 10:37:38 -0800 Received: by freenet.edmonton.ab.ca (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/FEAC1.002) id AA37275; Sat, 25 Feb 1995 11:25:43 -0700 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 11:25:43 -0700 (MST) From: mcnabbgb@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: continuing problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Blair McNabb email: mcnabbgb@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Edmonton, AB, T5A 1V6 the lines above this message showing my name and e-mail etc keep showing up on my compose e-mail screen. i have tried everything that i can think of and nothing works. i cannot find a file that this line may have origionally be from. how ever every e-mail i send has this line stuck in place of the text i type. can you please help with more than the outomated answer. I have tried things it suggests with no luck regards blair mcnabb From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 11:45:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10112; Sat, 25 Feb 95 11:45:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16256; Sat, 25 Feb 95 11:38:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16250; Sat, 25 Feb 95 11:38:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riSHh-00038FC; Sat, 25 Feb 95 11:36 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez045354@chip.ucdavis.edu (Mitchell Allen) Subject: distribution list question Date: 24 Feb 1995 02:16:48 GMT Message-Id: <3ijfig$2tk@mark.ucdavis.edu> Status: O X-Status: is there any way to send mail to a distribution list without having the entire list print out in the header of the message? i have a couple of long distribution lists and i would rather just have the alias in the header than pages of names proceeding the message. i don't know if this is a common question or not, but i did not see any reference to it in the current postings, nor have i found any information through man pages, etc. if you have any input, please contact me here, or via e-mail. thanks, mitch mtallen@ucdavis.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 12:05:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10540; Sat, 25 Feb 95 12:05:11 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20198; Sat, 25 Feb 95 12:01:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20192; Sat, 25 Feb 95 12:01:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riSag-00038KC; Sat, 25 Feb 95 11:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chuck Stadelman Subject: Help With Files Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 14:02:35 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Can anhyone tell me how to get a file from an ASCII text on local floppy into a PINE letter? NOT a file from my online service directory, one form my PC. Thi swould allow a much longer letter, better spellcheck, etc.... any suggestions? Also, has anyone used PINE with RFDMAIL yet? How well did it owrk? Email would be arpprecaited if you can help. :) Chuck Stadelman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 12:13:02 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10779; Sat, 25 Feb 95 12:13:02 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16673; Sat, 25 Feb 95 12:08:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16667; Sat, 25 Feb 95 12:08:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riSkK-00038FC; Sat, 25 Feb 95 12:05 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laniege@eng.auburn.edu (Glenn E. Lanier) Subject: Re: Help forwarding addresses Message-Id: References: Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 01:35:16 GMT Status: O X-Status: On Fri, 17 Feb 1995 14:22:24 -0500, in comp.mail.pine, etters@wfu.edu (parading as helen ruth etters) managed to electronically scribble: % > helen ruth etters (etters@wfu.edu) wrote: % > : I've created a pine alias called "majors" which contains the % > : email addresses of all the students who major in our department. % > : I want to give this list to the chair of our department, without his % > : having to type in all the names/addresses again. How can I send this % > : addressbook entry to him in such a way that he could use it without % > : having to retype it? Thanks. Why not pico .addressbook, cut all but majors out, mail that, have him cat .addressbook yourfile > temp mv temp .addressbook +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Glenn Lanier II Preferred: laniege@eng.auburn.edu | | 04 CS Alternate: laniege@mail.auburn.edu | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Never accept a drink from a urologist. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ -- +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Glenn Lanier II Preferred: laniege@eng.auburn.edu | | 04 CS Alternate: laniege@mail.auburn.edu | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | "640k is enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 12:47:58 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11526; Sat, 25 Feb 95 12:47:58 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20729; Sat, 25 Feb 95 12:38:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20723; Sat, 25 Feb 95 12:38:35 -0800 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM ([3.12.38.33]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id PAA17490 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 1995 15:38:33 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA23348; Sat, 25 Feb 95 15:37:06 EST Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 15:37:06 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help With Files In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 25 Feb 1995, Chuck Stadelman wrote: > Can anhyone tell me how to get a file from an ASCII text on local floppy > into a PINE letter? NOT a file from my online service directory, one form > my PC. Thi swould allow a much longer letter, better spellcheck, etc.... > any suggestions? Two ways: 1) Transfer your file to your server using your favorite protocol, Kermit, Zmodem, etc. Then read it into your message ctrl-R. 2) Initiate a message and move to the body of the message, then initiate an ASCII transfer of the file directly from your floppy to the message. To do this, you will have to increase your intercharacter and interline delays. I played with this at 10 ms between characters and 500ms between lines. (I use Pibterm. Alt-p, F, J gets you to the ASCII transfer parameter screen. Can't speek for other programs.) Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 13:35:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12759; Sat, 25 Feb 95 13:35:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21546; Sat, 25 Feb 95 13:31:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA21540; Sat, 25 Feb 95 13:31:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riTwd-00038LC; Sat, 25 Feb 95 13:22 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jin@blockhead.laney.cc.ca.us (jin kim) Subject: Help installing pc-pine for network Date: 24 Feb 1995 04:22:01 GMT Message-Id: <3ijmt9$cpg@genesis.laney.cc.ca.us> Status: O X-Status: i am installing pcpine_n.zip on a pc (which is on novell network) to connect to a linux server. i've set up the pine to a point. it is giving me an: unable to create tcp socket (66) any help would be appreciated. -jin kim From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 15:34:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15385; Sat, 25 Feb 95 15:34:17 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19572; Sat, 25 Feb 95 15:30:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19566; Sat, 25 Feb 95 15:30:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riVqU-00038FC; Sat, 25 Feb 95 15:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy.Behrens@coat.com Subject: Re: [Q] rot13 in Pine? Date: 25 Feb 1995 22:39:57 GMT Message-Id: <3iobjt$gul@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> References: <3ikves$96$1@mhade.production.compuserve.com> Status: O X-Status: Keith Johnson <74431.2155@CompuServe.COM> writes: > Is there a rot13 capability when reading news from pine? > I am using pine 3.91 on an HP Unix box. If you have the "pipe" command enabled in Pine, you can type |tr '[a-m][n-z][A-M][N-Z]' '[n-z][a-m][N-Z][A-M]' f you're planning to do this more than once, you should put this 'tr' command into a shell script, calling it 'rot13'. You could then type |rot13 Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens P.O. Box 116, South Strafford, Vermont 05070 Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Rd., Etna, N.H. 03750 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 16:27:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16350; Sat, 25 Feb 95 16:27:44 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23801; Sat, 25 Feb 95 16:19:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23795; Sat, 25 Feb 95 16:19:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riWc8-00038HC; Sat, 25 Feb 95 16:13 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Randy Holder Subject: PROBLEM REPORT Date: Fri, 24 Feb 1995 11:03:44 -0600 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-851401618-793645424=:5136" Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-851401618-793645424=:5136 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have incurred a problem in sending a mail message to a large distribution list (here at U of Arkansas). The initial report came from one of our end-users attempting to bcc a message to 60 students. I have recreated the problem on my personal account and tested approximately five times. The problem was consistent and occurred each time. Pine will display one of two messages at the top left of the main menu immediately after attempting to send the message (CTRL-X). It will display either "Segmentation Fault" or "Buffer Error". The message is NOT mailed to anyone and pine appears to continue operating as normal. Upon looking at the .pine-crash file written by pine, I noticed a couple of IOCTL error messages and at the end of the file a "Pine Panic: Received Abort Signal" message. I'm attaching the contents of the .pine-crash file. U of Arkansas is running Pine 3.91 on a Sun SparcCenter 2000 with the Solaris/Unix system. Please let me know if I can supply additional information. Have you seen this problem before? Is there something that we can do locally to "fix" the problem? Thanks in advance for your help. Randy Holder _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Randy V. Holder Phone: (501) 575-2905 Electronic Mail Support Specialist Fax: (501) 575-4753 Lotus 1-2-3 Support Email: Rholder@comp.uark.edu University of Arkansas Fayetteville, Arkansas ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Subject: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3091 weeks, 15 hours, > 16 minutes, 51 seconds _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ ---559023410-851401618-793645424=:5136 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=".pine-crash" Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Crash File RGVidWcgb3V0cHV0IG9mIHRoZSBQaW5lIHByb2dyYW0gKGF0IGRlYnVnIGxl dmVsIDIpLiAgVmVyc2lvbiAzLjkxDQpGcmkgRmViIDI0IDA5OjQ3OjIzIDE5 OTUNCg0KcmVhZGluZ19waW5lcmMgIi91c3IvbG9jYWwvbGliL3BpbmUuY29u ZiINClJlYWQgMTY0NCBjaGFyYWN0ZXJzOg0KcmVhZGluZ19waW5lcmMgIi9l eHBvcnQvaG9tZTEvY29tcC9yaG9sZGVyLy5waW5lcmMiDQpSZWFkIDU3ODgg Y2hhcmFjdGVyczoNCnJlYWRpbmdfcGluZXJjICIvdXNyL2xvY2FsL2xpYi9w 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(Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riYc8-00038FC; Sat, 25 Feb 95 18:21 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barbara Marschke Subject: Re: Mayday...I need HELP!!! Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 20:54:42 -0500 Message-Id: References: <199502252245.RAA16262@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199502252245.RAA16262@uhura.cc.rochester.edu> Status: O X-Status: Mayday cancelled. Someone from the Czech Republic suggested that I probably combined all of my folders into another and that is what I did. I found my folders and have all of my info back Whew!! Thank you for your offer of help Barbara Marschke BMarschk@moe.coe.uga.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 19:36:29 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19969; Sat, 25 Feb 95 19:36:29 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26467; Sat, 25 Feb 95 19:32:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA26461; Sat, 25 Feb 95 19:32:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0riZa4-00038HC; Sat, 25 Feb 95 19:23 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ted Stern Subject: Re: continuing problem Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 14:18:58 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On 25 Feb 1995 mcnabbgb@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > > > Blair McNabb email: mcnabbgb@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca > Edmonton, AB, T5A 1V6 > > the lines above this message showing my name and e-mail etc keep showing > up on my compose e-mail screen. i have tried everything that i can think > of and nothing works. i cannot find a file that this line may have > origionally be from. how ever every e-mail i send has this line stuck in > place of the text i type. can you please help with more than the > outomated answer. I have tried things it suggests with no luck > regards blair mcnabb > > This is a feature, not a bug! It's finding this stuff in your $HOME/.signature file. If you want this to go at the bottom of your messages you can turn on the signature-at-bottom feature. You can also change what file PINE looks for your signature in. -- Ted ============================================================================ Ted Stern (206) 685-9304 Dept. of Applied Math, FS-20 stern@amath.washington.edu University of Washington http://www.amath.washington.edu/~stern/ Seattle, WA 98195 ============================================================================ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Feb 25 20:18:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20803; Sat, 25 Feb 95 20:18:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23308; Sat, 25 Feb 95 20:13:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23302; Sat, 25 Feb 95 20:13:43 -0800 Received: from localhost by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11989; Sat, 25 Feb 95 20:13:39 -0800 Date: Sat, 25 Feb 1995 20:13:38 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert To: Jim Simmons Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine and sendmail 8.6.10 In-Reply-To: <3iii5a$f52@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: If you set pine's smtp-server to something this won't happen. It's happening when sendmail reads the header lines with the -t option. Alternatively, in comp.mail.sendmail, Eric Allman has suggested simply commenting out the warning message in sendmail for now. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 23 Feb 1995, Jim Simmons wrote: > After installing sendmail 8.6.10 I'm getting spurious "POSSIBLE ATTACK" > messages in syslog. Apparently pine is sending some lists of mail > recipients with newlines in the list. You see something like this in the > syslog (names have been changed to protect the guilty): > > Feb 23 09:47:07 testsys sendmail[892]: POSSIBLE ATTACK from > jsmith@localhost: newline in string "Mike Smith , > Teresa Jones , Jeff Green > " > > This is pine 3.91 on a SunOS 4.1.3 machine. > > Anybody have a way around this (other than not using pine or completely > disabling the check in sendmail 8.6.10)? It's adding a lot of junk to our > log files. > > Thanks, > > Jim > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 26 07:41:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04848; Sun, 26 Feb 95 07:41:37 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05774; Sun, 26 Feb 95 07:35:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from [198.76.200.3] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05768; Sun, 26 Feb 95 07:35:41 -0800 Received: by mail (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA02670; Sun, 26 Feb 1995 10:35:17 +0500 Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 10:35:16 -0500 (EST) From: Chip Old To: Nigel Reed Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ftp? In-Reply-To: <793558655snz@vodapage.demon.co.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 629 Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 23 Feb 1995, Nigel Reed wrote: > Mosaic produce software, Netscape for example (Or is it the other > way around?) which is used to access the world wide web. Mosaic and Netscape are two different World Wide Web browsers from two different sources. Mosaic is from the NCSA. I don't remember who produces Netscape. -------------------------------------------------------------------- Francis E. Old (Chip Old) Internet: fold@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us Internetworking Administrator Voice: (410) 887-6180 Baltimore County Public Library FAX: (410) 887-2091 320 York Road Towson, Maryland 21204 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 26 07:48:20 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05134; Sun, 26 Feb 95 07:48:20 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01932; Sun, 26 Feb 95 07:44:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01926; Sun, 26 Feb 95 07:44:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ril4U-00038HC; Sun, 26 Feb 95 07:39 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laniege@eng.auburn.edu (Glenn E. Lanier) Subject: Re: printing addressbook; Ctrl ^ not working Message-Id: References: Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 00:25:28 GMT Status: O X-Status: On Sat, 18 Feb 1995 01:15:22 GMT, in comp.mail.pine, h9397584@hkusub (parading as Michael Agelasto) managed to electronically scribble: % 2/ I am unable to mark and cut text (Ctrl ^). Someone mentioned this is % a previous posting, but I don't recall a reply. Mke sure you are doing , in lab, Crtl ^ works, but on my pc, I have to include the shift. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Glenn Lanier II Preferred: laniege@eng.auburn.edu | | 04 CS Alternate: laniege@mail.auburn.edu | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Never accept a drink from a urologist. | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 26 08:35:17 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05974; Sun, 26 Feb 95 08:35:17 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06412; Sun, 26 Feb 95 08:24:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06406; Sun, 26 Feb 95 08:24:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rilex-00038HC; Sun, 26 Feb 95 08:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chuck Stadelman Subject: Re: how does one find out about other news groups and subscribe to them Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 10:47:22 -0500 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: On Wed, 22 Feb 1995, Tyler Wilson wrote: > > just curious about finding out about news groups and how i can > subscribe to others. can anyone offer a list of some? > > I suggest you get a copy of the very good book, "INTERNENT YELLOW PAGES" from Osborne-McGraw/Hill publishers.. it lsits nearly 5000 of them PLUS a lot of other goodies. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 26 09:10:01 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06694; Sun, 26 Feb 95 09:10:01 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02833; Sun, 26 Feb 95 08:59:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02827; Sun, 26 Feb 95 08:59:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rimE3-00038HC; Sun, 26 Feb 95 08:53 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tipcat@wam.umd.edu (Frank Young) Subject: Re: ftp? Date: 26 Feb 1995 16:15:52 GMT Message-Id: <3iq9fo$9j5@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> References: <793558655snz@vodapage.demon.co.uk> Status: O X-Status: In article , Chip Old wrote: >On Thu, 23 Feb 1995, Nigel Reed wrote: >> Mosaic produce software, Netscape for example (Or is it the other >> way around?) which is used to access the world wide web. >Mosaic and Netscape are two different World Wide Web browsers from two >different sources. Mosaic is from the NCSA. I don't remember who >produces Netscape. I think the frame of reference is that those writers who produced MOSAIC for a government-sponsored project later resigned and went on to write NETSCAPE -- Regards, Frank Young tipcat@wam.umd.edu 202-463-6361 Suite 820, 2000 F Street, Northwest Washington, D. C. 20006-4236 "Videmus nunc per speculum in aenigmate... Nunc cognosco ex parte" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 26 10:12:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07942; Sun, 26 Feb 95 10:12:28 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07711; Sun, 26 Feb 95 10:07:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07705; Sun, 26 Feb 95 10:07:35 -0800 Received: from gopher.chem.wayne.edu by CMS.CC.WAYNE.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 26 Feb 95 13:06:16 EST Received: by gopher.chem.wayne.edu (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA13111; Sun, 26 Feb 1995 13:08:27 +0500 Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 13:08:27 -0500 (EST) From: Jabulani Sidney Ncube X-Sender: jncube@gopher.chem.wayne.edu To: pine@cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Please explain! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 238 Status: O X-Status: I understand that those who run 'bot' will have their ID revoked. I am not too sure what a 'bot' is and I was asking if I am one of those people. I will hate to be kicked out especially when I can cooperate. So, please elaborate. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 26 12:18:44 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA10729; Sun, 26 Feb 95 12:18:44 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05320; Sun, 26 Feb 95 12:14:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05312; Sun, 26 Feb 95 12:14:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0ripFR-00038KC; Sun, 26 Feb 95 12:07 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fishbowl@frodo.pic.net (fishbowl) Subject: POP and Pine Date: 26 Feb 1995 19:52:23 GMT Message-Id: <3iqm5n$gsp@gandalf.pic.net> Status: O X-Status: I get my mail forwarded to my machine via a .forward entry, but I'd rather just get the mail off the POP server using pine. I looked through the docs and got pretty good confirmation that Pine supports pop, but nothing about how to set it up. Please help, if you know how to make Pine work as a POP client. Regards, James ^[wq! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 26 16:05:30 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15574; Sun, 26 Feb 95 16:05:30 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08270; Sun, 26 Feb 95 15:57:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08264; Sun, 26 Feb 95 15:57:03 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.10/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23566; Sun, 26 Feb 95 15:56:59 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 15:56:58 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: fishbowl Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POP and Pine In-Reply-To: <3iqm5n$gsp@gandalf.pic.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: James, Could you tell us where you found "pretty good confirmation that Pine supports pop"? We'd like to fix the docs if they imply that. (Indeed, the docs *should* mention that Pine uses IMAP for remote folder access.) POP normally implies "offline" operation wherein mail is downloaded from a mail drop/server to a local machine and deleted from the server. Pine does not yet support "offline" operation, but it will in the future. At that point, we expect that you will be able to use either POP or IMAP to download and delete messages from the server. However, for now you can use a Unix POP client (e.g. one called "popclient") and make it a "front-end" for Pine in a shell script. This should accomplish the same thing, though slightly less efficiently. Alternatively, you can ask the pic.net folks to run imapd alongside popd and manually do an aggregate Save and Delete. -teg On 26 Feb 1995, fishbowl wrote: > I get my mail forwarded to my machine via a .forward entry, but I'd rather > just get the mail off the POP server using pine. I looked through the docs > and got pretty good confirmation that Pine supports pop, but nothing about > how to set it up. > > Please help, if you know how to make Pine work as a POP client. > > Regards, > > James > > > ^[wq! > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Feb 26 16:23:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16097; Sun, 26 Feb 95 16:23:59 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12651; Sun, 26 Feb 95 16:15:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12645; Sun, 26 Feb 95 16:15:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rit2r-00038MC; Sun, 26 Feb 95 16:10 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmldhaywar@aol.com (MMLDHaywar) Subject: IMAP -- PCPINE -- how to set up -- help please Date: 26 Feb 1995 13:49:38 -0500 Message-Id: <3iqig2$ntd@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Status: O X-Status: I want to set up a new ethernet/Internet connected system using IMAP and PCPINE for mail distribution. I have a Linux system I can use for the central mail hub and IMAPd is running on it. I am confused about what needs to be done on the PC end and about accounts. We are using GVC NE2000 clones for NICs. They seem to be functioning OK (I have a system which is DOS/Linux -- the Linux side communicates with the central mail machine as expected). What software is needed on the PC side so that PINE can communicate with the mail hub? I expect a device driver is needed -- what else? Is there public domian software that will do the job? Where can it be obtained? Does using the IMAP-PINE connection imply that all mail recipients must have regular user accounts on the central hub system, or are there special mailbox only accounts which can be established? -- How? Is there a document that lays this all out? I seem to need a road map if there is one available. Thanks for any help, suggestions or pointers. Don Hayward mmldhaywar@aol.com (soon to be: don@marinelab.sarasota.fl.us) Mote Marine Laboratory From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 27 04:18:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01964; Mon, 27 Feb 95 04:18:43 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17916; Mon, 27 Feb 95 04:11:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA17910; Mon, 27 Feb 95 04:11:31 -0800 Received: from ebor.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:07:51 +0000 Received: by ebor.york.ac.uk (940715.SGI.52/931108.SGI.ANONFTP) for @lendal.york.ac.uk:pine-info@cac.washington.edu id AA01778; Mon, 27 Feb 95 12:10:00 GMT Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 12:09:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell X-Sender: pmb1@ebor.york.ac.uk To: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Mailbox formats (Berkeley -> Tenex) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Hi! We are currently using Pine and imapd with the Berkeley mailbox driver on our Silicon Graphics platforms (specifically, we are currently using the mboxdriver version, which rips the mail out of the delivery file in /var/mail into the file $HOME/mbox). I am wanting to start investigating using the Tenex format, with a possibly view to switching to its use generally on our systems. Assuming that the Tenex driver is linked in to Pine and imapd is it simply a case of creating an empty "$HOME/mail.txt" file to start using Tenex format for my INBOX? (I realise I'll have to do some fiddling to retain the messages currently in the "mbox" file -- don't worry!) What about messages saved to other folders (in "$HOME/Mail/foldername"). Do these always continue to be in Berkeley format, and only the INBOX goes Tenex? Is it possible to force Tenex to be used for these other folders too, and if so how? (Some clever linking options? File naming? etc) And finally can someone remind me of the script/program the Pine Team made available a while back to convert from Tenex back to Berkeley, and where it can be obtained from (in case I want to backtrack! :-) With thanks, Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Phone: +44-(0)1904-433811 FAX: +44-(0)1904-432767 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 27 09:18:18 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11029; Mon, 27 Feb 95 09:18:18 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22337; Mon, 27 Feb 95 09:00:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22331; Mon, 27 Feb 95 09:00:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rj8m5-00038FC; Mon, 27 Feb 95 08:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwardb@psg.com Subject: Can you help us? 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From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 27 09:51:09 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12817; Mon, 27 Feb 95 09:51:09 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23772; Mon, 27 Feb 95 09:42:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from UCS.ORST.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23766; Mon, 27 Feb 95 09:42:37 -0800 Received: by ucs.orst.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/24Sep94-1201PM) id AA12710; Mon, 27 Feb 1995 09:42:36 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 09:42:36 -0800 (PST) From: Tammy Barr To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Posting to newsgroups Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to send a message to a newsgroup without opening up a specific newsgroup first? Can you simply compose a message in Pine and direct it to one or more newsgroups? If so, how would you address it? Thanks. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Tammy Barr Email: barrt@ucs.orst.edu Consultant, User Services Phone: 737-5404 University Computing Services From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 27 11:18:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16979; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:18:32 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00386; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:05:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00380; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:05:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjAjL-00038FC; Mon, 27 Feb 95 11:03 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fletcher@bud.peinet.pe.ca (Scott Fletcher) Subject: Unix Pine Printing Problem Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 14:15:00 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hello, Can anyone point me to a possible solution. I call up a unix server from my PC, from that server I bring up pine and everytime I try to print a large document (20 pages) using the y command, I get abut 8 pages of material and then the system just hangs. I then have to control-c out of it and back to the system prompt. I have tried a vaiety of pcs with the same result and I have even tried a different unix server that uses pine with the same result. Flow control is set to off on my terminal package. I have been using both telix and procomm. So ... any ideas? Scott |=======================================================================| | Scott Fletcher | End User Support/Client Services | | PEINet | fletcher@peinet.pe.ca | |=======================================================================| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 27 19:58:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08708; Mon, 27 Feb 95 19:58:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07993; Mon, 27 Feb 95 19:51:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07987; Mon, 27 Feb 95 19:51:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjIwd-00038HC; Mon, 27 Feb 95 19:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andrew Lowery Subject: Catching up on news articles Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 10:36:50 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: How does one mark all of the postings in a particular newsgroup as read in pine. In rn, for instance, the keystroke is "c", to catch-up on all articles. Any help will be appreciated. Andrew Lowery From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 27 20:13:56 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09221; Mon, 27 Feb 95 20:13:56 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12411; Mon, 27 Feb 95 20:01:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12405; Mon, 27 Feb 95 20:01:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjJ5P-00038FC; Mon, 27 Feb 95 19:58 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: willer@io.org Subject: Re: OS2 tcpip pine available ??? Date: 26 Feb 1995 21:13:24 GMT Message-Id: <3iqqtk$jrh@ionews.io.org> References: Status: O X-Status: In , eerola@utu.fi (Erkki Eerola) writes: >Is it possible to use any version of pine from the dos >window of os2 tcpip. When tried an error: packet driver >not installed just comes up. I don't think there is anything available to give a virtual packet driver in a VDM session. If you're running WinOS2 and you're using Warp or IBM TCP/IP with the DOS access kit, then simply use Pine for Windows. >If not, does aybody know any other IMAP mail program >working in os2 tcpip? I'm working on a port right now, but I'm also doing a lot of other stuff, so it's going slowly. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 27 20:19:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09493; Mon, 27 Feb 95 20:19:40 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08242; Mon, 27 Feb 95 20:06:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08236; Mon, 27 Feb 95 20:06:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjJ9G-00038FC; Mon, 27 Feb 95 20:02 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gervais@mipsmath.math.uqam.ca (Robert Gervais) Subject: application/x-dvi Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 19:34:47 GMT Status: O X-Status: Hi, I'm a new pine user and I have tried to send a message with a dvi file as an attachment but the MIME label generated has been "application/octet-stream". Is it a way to specify manually the MIME label or to configure pine to be able to recognize the dvi file ? -- Robert Gervais Tel: (514) 987-6106 Université du Québec à Montréal Fax: (514) 987-8477 Service de l'Informatique e-mail: gervais.robert@uqam.ca C.P. 8888, Succursale A Montréal P.Q. H3C 3P8 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Feb 27 22:59:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA14116; Mon, 27 Feb 95 22:59:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15235; Mon, 27 Feb 95 22:52:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA15225; Mon, 27 Feb 95 22:52:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjLke-00038FC; Mon, 27 Feb 95 22:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Penio Penev Subject: Bug (ID HG2AB): B)ounce takes forever Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-2125129881-261062818-793904549=:21116" Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 17:02:29 GMT Status: O X-Status: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---2125129881-261062818-793904549=:21116 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to B)ounce a non-MIME message from an NSF mounted folder. The message is 1.6M and the folder itself is 2.1M When I look at the message, it takes a few seconds for the 1.6M to arrive over the network. When I press B)ounce, the machine starts to work for about 2 minutes. This is an 150MHz R4400 SGI Indy with 96M RAM (no swapping). At the and of the two minutes, ps says: F S UID PID PPID C PRI NI P SZ:RSS WCHAN TTY TIME COMD 30 S 5004 6711 6710 0 26 20 * 3607:3402 882de41c pts/3 3:06 pine SZ:3607? That's 3607*4K=15M ??? 15 Megs to bounce a 1.6M message? OK, let's do the controlled experiment. F S UID PID PPID C PRI NI P SZ:RSS WCHAN TTY TIME COMD No folder open: 30 S 5004 6805 6804 0 26 20 * 416:160 882de3f4 pts/3 0:00 pine Only an open folder: 30 S 5004 6805 6804 5 26 20 * 1826:1195 882de3f4 pts/3 0:02 pine View the file: 30 S 5004 6805 6804 1 26 20 * 2632:2411 882de3f4 pts/3 0:06 pine Bounce (after asking for a destination, before I specify it): 30 S 5004 6711 6710 0 26 20 * 3607:3402 882de41c pts/3 3:06 pine It appears pine a) reads the whole folder in memory -- that's understandable, since it is not with IMAP. b) makes a fresh copy of the message bein viewed -- why that? c) makes another copy of the message being bounced, this time doing something with it for 3 minutes on an 150MHz R4000 96M machine. This is the craziest thing. And on top of that, each time it makes a 4Meg copy of a 1.6Meg message. And now who was telling, that this will work with IMAP over a 14.4 SLIP connection to a 4M PeeCee :-( -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423 ---2125129881-261062818-793904549=:21116 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; name="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = penev, full = Penio Penev home = /home/penev home_dir= /home/penev hostname= pisa localdom= pisa userdom= pisa.rockefeller.edu maildom= pisa.rockefeller.edu cur_cntxt= [] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= {pisa}M/INBOX msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=OrderedSubj inbox is mail_stream term type=iris-ansi, ttyname=/dev/ttyq0, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Penio Penev user-id : penev user-domain : pisa.rockefeller.edu smtp-server : pisa.rockefeller.edu nntp-server : rockyd.rockefeller.edu inbox-path : {pisa.rockefeller.edu}M/INBOX incoming-folders : Connectionists M/nnet : ANSForth M/ANSForth : SmartList M/SmartList : HPC M/HPC : HPCNews M/news : InterNIC M/internic : reinforce M/reinforce : PFE M/PFE : WINE M/WINE : RemotePrinting M/tpc-rp : {interport.net/pop3}INBOX : s.c.b *{pisa:11900/nntp}soc.culture.bulgaria folder-collections : Mail {pisa.rockefeller.edu}Mail/[] : News saves {pisa.rockefeller.edu}News/[] : Bulgaria htdocs/Bulgaria/Articles/[] : home ~/[] : Received {pisa.rockefeller.edu}Mail/[received*] news-collections : News *{rockyd/nntp}[] : News from pisa *{pisa:11900/nntp}[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail read-message-folder : received signature-file : .pinesig address-book : .addressbook feature-list : news-read-in-newsrc-order : quit-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : save-will-advance : auto-move-read-msgs : expunge-without-confirm : news-post-without-validation : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : include-attachments-in-reply customized-hdrs : Reply-To: : Return-Receipt-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last editor : xemacs -nw use-only-domain-name : no printer : lp personal-print-comma : lp standard-printer : lpr last-time-prune-ques : 95.2 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/home/penev/.pinerc) ======= user-domain : pisa.rockefeller.edu smtp-server : pisa.rockefeller.edu nntp-server : rockyd.rockefeller.edu inbox-path : {pisa.rockefeller.edu}M/INBOX incoming-folders : Connectionists M/nnet : ANSForth M/ANSForth : SmartList M/SmartList : HPC M/HPC : HPCNews M/news : InterNIC M/internic : reinforce M/reinforce : PFE M/PFE : WINE M/WINE : RemotePrinting M/tpc-rp : {interport.net/pop3}INBOX : s.c.b *{pisa:11900/nntp}soc.culture.bulgaria folder-collections : Mail {pisa.rockefeller.edu}Mail/[] : News saves {pisa.rockefeller.edu}News/[] : Bulgaria htdocs/Bulgaria/Articles/[] : home ~/[] : Received {pisa.rockefeller.edu}Mail/[received*] news-collections : News *{rockyd/nntp}[] : News from pisa *{pisa:11900/nntp}[] read-message-folder : received signature-file : .pinesig feature-list : news-read-in-newsrc-order : quit-without-confirm : show-selected-in-boldface : signature-at-bottom : compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : save-will-advance : auto-move-read-msgs : expunge-without-confirm : news-post-without-validation : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : include-attachments-in-reply customized-hdrs : Reply-To: : Return-Receipt-To: saved-msg-name-rule : by-sender fcc-name-rule : by-recipient sort-key : OrderedSubj editor : xemacs -nw printer : lp personal-print-comma : lp last-time-prune-ques : 95.2 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lpr bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys ---2125129881-261062818-793904549=:21116-- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 02:32:37 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19179; Tue, 28 Feb 95 02:32:37 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13788; Tue, 28 Feb 95 02:26:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA13782; Tue, 28 Feb 95 02:26:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjP6u-00038FC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 02:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwardb@psg.com Control: cancel <3isfm9$rht@crl4.crl.com> Subject: cmsg cancel <3isfm9$rht@crl4.crl.com> 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An explanation of this action has been posted to news.admin.misc. Please read that message if you have any questions. Feel free to contact me at the Reply-To address if you have any further questions. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 05:02:40 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23118; Tue, 28 Feb 95 05:02:40 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20195; Tue, 28 Feb 95 04:53:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20189; Tue, 28 Feb 95 04:52:51 -0800 Received: from mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM ([3.12.38.33]) by ns.ge.com (8.6.10/8.6.10) with SMTP id HAA23967 for ; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:52:48 -0500 Received: by mmpcs1.PSF.GE.COM (4.1/GEA Sun server 2.7) id AA29956; Tue, 28 Feb 95 07:51:21 EST Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:51:19 -0500 (EST) From: Don Sugarman To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC IP Products Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Following is an updated post of a message I sent last week that did not tell the whole story. I got some useful feedback on Mac-related products. I'm hoping someone will have some PC-related information. TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com I figure that there are so many folks out there using Pine with so many different configurations that one of you will be able to answer a question about PC IP products. We are currenlty experimenting with a dial-up connection using a Shiva Remote connecting to a Shiva LanRover. When we log in, the Shiva box assigns an IP address for that session. We are using an MS TCP/IP product that runs under Windows for WorkGroups, which requires that the user update the IP address each time we log in to match the IP address assigned by the Shiva box. Does anyone know of an IP product that will recognize and use the Shiva-assigned address automagically? We are using a product with that capability on the Macs that are part of the test. TIA, Don Sugarman sugarman@mmpcs1.psf.ge.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 08:12:15 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28177; Tue, 28 Feb 95 08:12:15 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23222; Tue, 28 Feb 95 08:04:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ibm-8.MPA-Garching.MPG.DE by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA23216; Tue, 28 Feb 95 08:04:08 -0800 Received: (lowell@localhost) by ibm-8.MPA-Garching.MPG.DE (8.6.9/8.6) id RAA36412; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 17:04:09 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 17:04:09 +0100 (MET) From: Lowell Tacconi-Garman To: PINE-info Subject: PINE 3.05 -> PINE 3.91 (where did the folders go?) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: Until a few days ago I confess that I was running PINE 3.05. Now I am running PINE 3.91. The problem is that the new version doesn't see all of my old mail folders. That they are still there can be demonstrated by running the old version. How do I make the new PINE recognize the old folders? Thanks in advance, L.E. Tacconi-Garman From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 08:29:33 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28862; Tue, 28 Feb 95 08:29:33 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19016; Tue, 28 Feb 95 08:18:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA19010; Tue, 28 Feb 95 08:18:32 -0800 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id LAA27664; Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:16:05 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 11:15:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael C. Newell" To: Don Sugarman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PC IP Products In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: On Tue, 28 Feb 1995, Don Sugarman wrote: > Does anyone know of an IP product that will recognize and use the > Shiva-assigned address automagically? We are using a product with that > capability on the Macs that are part of the test. What mechanism does the Shiva box use to inform the host of the assigned IP address? Most boxes use RARP or BOOTP, some use DHCP, others don't do anything more than send a text message. If the box works OK on Macs running Versaterm SLIP or MacPPP then my guess would be the Shiva will respond properly to BOOTP (this is what Annex terminal servers do for example.) In that case, we've tested: Chameleon Trumpet Winsock SuperTCP All of which work. Note that for SuperTCP you MUST either use the V4.x software or upgrade the V3.0 to V3.5 via a ton o' patches on Frontier Tech's FTP site. For Chameleon you need to configure the host address as "1.1.1.1", which is kind of weird but at least that's what the manuals say. Trumpet Winsodk and Chameleon also have an adequate scripting language to get the IP address from a text response issued by the server if the server doesn't support RARP, BOOTP, etc. Hope this helps, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 09:29:36 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA02838; Tue, 28 Feb 95 09:29:36 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25321; Tue, 28 Feb 95 09:19:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA25315; Tue, 28 Feb 95 09:19:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjVTA-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 09:12 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kufi@kufis.ruhr.de (Joerg Weber) Subject: Re: printing addressbook; Ctrl ^ not working Message-Id: References: <3irsu6$176@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Feb 1995 21:57:06 GMT Status: O X-Status: Scott Gifford (gifford@umich.edu) wrote: : Glenn E. Lanier (laniege@eng.auburn.edu) wrote: : : On Sat, 18 Feb 1995 01:15:22 GMT, in comp.mail.pine, h9397584@hkusub : : (parading as Michael Agelasto) managed to electronically scribble: : : % 2/ I am unable to mark and cut text (Ctrl ^). Someone mentioned this is : : % a previous posting, but I don't recall a reply. : : Mke sure you are doing , in lab, Crtl ^ works, but : : on my pc, I have to include the shift. : You can also press ESC ESC ^ (that's ESCape, ESCape, SHIFT-6). In fact, : you can do that for all the control characters (ESE ESC w for CTRL-W, etc). : Pretty cool, eh? No. It is really not cool choosing Ctrl-^. PLEASE pine developers change this. You should know the world is bigger than usa. In other parts of the world there are different keyboards used. Take Ctrl-. -- Gruss Joerg ( kufi@kufis.ruhr.de ) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 10:12:11 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05365; Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:12:11 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22007; Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:00:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22001; Tue, 28 Feb 95 10:00:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjW8x-00038DC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 09:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: save, rename inbox as file? Message-Id: References: <1734BAA2D.NHILTON@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 16:54:47 GMT Status: O X-Status: nelson hilton (NHILTON@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU) decia: : Well, the inbox is getting pretty large, & while I've figured out how : to deal with individual messages, I'm wondering if I could just save : the whole thing as a file and start afresh. Sorry if I'm overlooking : the obvious... Many thanks, Nelson What version of pine are you using? with pine 3.91 you can use: ; [for select] A [for all] A [for action on selected, in this case all] S [save in folder] enter the name of the folder you want to create and press return If the folder you want does not exist, pine will ask you if you want to create it... answer with Y[es] Now, if you press X [expunge] and then Y[es], all those messages will "disappear" from the inbox... and will be in the new folder... good luck Pucho. btw if you use either S[ave] or D[elete] every time you read your mail... it would be much easier and organized... or at least answer Y[es] when you leave pine and are asked if you want to save the read messages and expunged the deleted messages From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 13:44:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA16742; Tue, 28 Feb 95 13:44:55 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01907; Tue, 28 Feb 95 13:32:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01895; Tue, 28 Feb 95 13:32:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjZUW-00038DC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 13:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Abe Subject: Distribution lists Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 01:06:43 -0500 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: O X-Status: I have a list of email address that I want to make a distribution list for. There are over 400 of them so you can see why I'm asking this question. Is there a way to append those addresses to the end of my .addressbook file and make pine recognize it as a distribution list? Thanks Abe ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Love many, trust few | Abe Philip aphili1@umbc.edu Always paddle your own canoe." | Univ. of Md. Balto. County | http://umbc.edu/~abe Disclaimer:...My opinions....no one elses...legal jargon...etc, etc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 15:23:55 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA20866; Tue, 28 Feb 95 15:23:55 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29360; Tue, 28 Feb 95 14:57:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA29354; Tue, 28 Feb 95 14:57:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjapa-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 14:55 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thu@satellite.oulu.fi (Thomas Ulich) Subject: New Mail Check Interval Date: 28 Feb 1995 20:42:51 GMT Message-Id: <3j01sb$8j9@ousrvr.oulu.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Hi! Reading the man page of pine, I just found out that pine looks for new mail every 2.5 min, or after a screen refresh (C-L), for example. Is there a way to change that 2.5 min interval? Thanks & regards, -- Thomas Ulich Tel.: ++358-(9)81-554 7042 !!!NEW: thomas.ulich@oulu.fi Inuits say: He who looks long upon the aurora soon goes mad. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 15:53:43 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA22311; Tue, 28 Feb 95 15:53:43 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04750; Tue, 28 Feb 95 15:32:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04744; Tue, 28 Feb 95 15:32:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjbOb-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 15:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sardella@potemkin.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Sardella) Subject: Viewing Message without Paging Date: 28 Feb 95 21:57:01 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I have a number of users who use pine on a dialup line with Crosstalk on a PC. These users like to be able to capture long messages into a file on the PC. Is there a way in Pine to read messages without having to pause for each page? These are not Unix people, so I need an easier method than exporting to a file and then exiting to Unix to "cat" the file. TIA ----------------------------->>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<----------------------------- Tom Sardella Phone: 301-286-7686 Network Control Systems Branch/Code 532 Fax: 301-286-1724 NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center GSFCmail: TSARDELLA Greenbelt, MD 20771 email: Tom.Sardella@gsfc.nasa.gov ----------------------------->>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<----------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 17:39:32 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA27056; Tue, 28 Feb 95 17:39:32 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03327; Tue, 28 Feb 95 17:32:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA03321; Tue, 28 Feb 95 17:32:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjdFB-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 17:30 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: s93sbe@csd.uu.se (Stefan Berg) Subject: HELP! Problems with REPLY Date: 28 Feb 1995 13:44:32 GMT Message-Id: <3iv9c0$s3s@columba.udac.uu.se> Status: O X-Status: Hiya, I have this problem which I find most annoying! When I reply to a letter, I get the copied text from previous letter AFTER my signature. My QUESTION is: How do I make pine include copied letter to which Im about to reply to BEFORE my own signature? PLEASE post or E-mail me at address below. And Hey, Check out my homepage while you are at it! Regards, -- ------------------------------------------------- Stefan Berg <+070-7561297> Student at the Computer Science Department of the University of Uppsala, Sweden ------------------------------------------------- ************************************************* It's better to burn out than to fade away! ************************************************* [Kurgan, The Highlander] From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 18:14:50 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28175; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:14:50 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08067; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:02:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08061; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:02:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjdjj-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:01 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joseph@ritz.mordor.com (Joseph Limandri) Subject: Sending files to message from unix? unencode? Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 17:30:14 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: I have a unix account in my school and a email/newsgroup only account at home. How can I send my self files in messages. Can pine auttomattically uuencode them for me. If not can I do it my self from the unix prompt?....and how? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 18:20:08 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28373; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:20:08 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04029; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:12:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04023; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:12:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjdqL-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:08 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mrs@crash.cts.com (Mark Steele) Subject: How to go to top/bottom of large file? Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 23:24:26 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: So, HOW do you to go to top/bottom of large file? (In 1 or 2 keystrokes?) -- -------------- Mark R. Steele mrs@cts.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 18:22:46 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA28442; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:22:46 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08236; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:12:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08230; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:12:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjdsr-00038DC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 18:11 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Amy L. Lauderdale" Subject: Re: printing addressbook; Ctrl ^ not working Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 07:26:33 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: > % 2/ I am unable to mark and cut text (Ctrl ^). Someone mentioned this is > % a previous posting, but I don't recall a reply. > > Mke sure you are doing , in lab, Crtl ^ works, but > on my pc, I have to include the shift. What I learned from some of the good folks on here, is that it varies by software. In windows I must use the shift with Ctrl ^, but in telix or procomm I do not. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 19:39:59 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA00926; Tue, 28 Feb 95 19:39:59 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05283; Tue, 28 Feb 95 19:28:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05277; Tue, 28 Feb 95 19:28:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjf1Y-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 19:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nimbus@halcyon.com (Jorj Laing) Subject: Signature file in Pine Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 17:16:56 -0700 Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Hello freindly neighbors, I know this is proably a frequently asked question but i could not find the FAQ for this Newsgroup but anyways. How do you create and edit a .signature file and what do you need to do to make it work.... Just wondering please e-mail me at my personally site along with this newsgroup... Thanks in advance...*:o) Yours in the spirit of the Great White Chicken, Jorj...*:o) nimbus@halcyon.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 20:00:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA01401; Tue, 28 Feb 95 20:00:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09721; Tue, 28 Feb 95 19:53:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09715; Tue, 28 Feb 95 19:53:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjfPI-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 19:49 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Help installing pc-pine for network Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 13:48:57 -0800 Message-Id: References: <3ijmt9$cpg@genesis.laney.cc.ca.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3ijmt9$cpg@genesis.laney.cc.ca.us> Status: O X-Status: Is imapd installed on the Linux server? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 24 Feb 1995, jin kim wrote: > Date: 24 Feb 1995 04:22:01 GMT > From: jin kim > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Help installing pc-pine for network > > i am installing pcpine_n.zip on a pc (which is on novell network) > to connect to a linux server. i've set up the pine to a point. it is > giving me an: > > unable to create tcp socket (66) > > any help would be appreciated. > > -jin kim > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 22:03:57 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04576; Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:03:57 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11505; Tue, 28 Feb 95 21:58:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA11499; Tue, 28 Feb 95 21:58:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjhMn-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 21:54 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Posting to newsgroups Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 14:09:11 -0800 Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Status: O X-Status: Just list the newsgroup names on the Newsgrps: line. If you don't have a newsgroup open, you will need to press ^R to make the Newsgrps: header show up... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 27 Feb 1995, Tammy Barr wrote: > Date: 27 Feb 1995 09:48:51 -0800 > From: Tammy Barr > Newgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Posting to newsgroups > > Is there a way to send a message to a newsgroup without opening up a > specific newsgroup first? > > Can you simply compose a message in Pine and direct it to one or more > newsgroups? If so, how would you address it? > > Thanks. > > ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ > Tammy Barr Email: barrt@ucs.orst.edu > Consultant, User Services Phone: 737-5404 > University Computing Services > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 22:04:38 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA04597; Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:04:38 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07517; Tue, 28 Feb 95 21:53:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07511; Tue, 28 Feb 95 21:53:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjhGo-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 21:48 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vermil@zeus.franklin.edu (Robert Vermilyer) Subject: VAX3300/Ultrix4.1 Port Question Message-Id: <1995Feb28.225534.16147@zeus.franklin.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 22:55:34 GMT Status: O X-Status: I am trying to port to a VAX3300 running Ultrix version 4.1. Using "build ult" pico installed fine, however pine did not. The following problems developed. Any thoughts/solutions would be greatly appreciated. >Making c-client library, mtest and imapd > ... > >cc -g3 -O2 -Olimit 800 -Dconst= -o mtest mtest.o c-client.a -lauth >cc: warning: -g disables -O >ld:800: cannot open >*** Error code 4 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. ... >Making Pine. ... >cc -DULT -g -DDEBUG -DSYSTYPE=\"ULT\" -c other.c >"other.c", line 597: operands of * have incompatible types >"other.c", line 1802: operands of * have incompatible types >*** Error code 1 > >Stop. > >Links to executables are in bin directory: >size: bin/pine not found >size: bin/mtest not found >size: bin/imapd not found >text data bss dec hex >133120 27648 14256 175024 2abb0 bin/pico >Done -Bob Vermilyer -- Bob Vermilyer vermil@franklin.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 22:25:53 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA05426; Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:25:53 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08119; Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:18:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA08113; Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:18:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjhif-00038DC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:17 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu Subject: [Q] Exporting messages Date: 01 Mar 1995 00:20:14 GMT Message-Id: Status: O X-Status: Is there a way to export multiple messages into one file? That is, maybe select more than one mail message and typing "e", write them to a file? I'm using v 3.89, but I will also welcome an answer if using 4.91, we're upgrading soon. === Al From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 22:50:31 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA06445; Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:50:31 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12227; Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:43:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12221; Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:43:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rji7j-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 22:43 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thu@satellite.oulu.fi (Thomas Ulich) Subject: Re: HELP! Problems with REPLY Date: 28 Feb 1995 20:25:38 GMT Message-Id: <3j00s2$8j9@ousrvr.oulu.fi> References: <3iv9c0$s3s@columba.udac.uu.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Status: O X-Status: Stefan Berg (s93sbe@csd.uu.se) wrote: : I have this problem which I find most annoying! : When I reply to a letter, I get the copied : text from previous letter AFTER my signature. You can customize a lot of things in PINE, also this thing. Have a look at the main menu. Choose S)etup. Then C)onfig. Then you get lots of options. If you do not know what they mean, just press the ? when you are on it, and you'll get help. Enable option: signature-at-bottom Have fun, -- Thomas Ulich Tel.: ++358-(9)81-554 7042 !!!NEW: thomas.ulich@oulu.fi Inuits say: He who looks long upon the aurora soon goes mad. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 23:34:28 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07453; Tue, 28 Feb 95 23:34:28 -0800 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09249; Tue, 28 Feb 95 23:28:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA09243; Tue, 28 Feb 95 23:28:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjilj-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 23:24 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lerner@netcom.com (Stuart Lerner lerner@netcom.com) Subject: Briefs ... headers that is / Bug Message-Id: Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 04:37:14 GMT Status: O X-Status: Greetings follows Piners. What is the best way to get brief headers in my exported files?? I notice when I forward I get only the 4 important lines. But when I save I get more. Do I use the ignore headername (to: from: type: date:) and if so where do I put this lovely command. Also if anyone can tell the same thing for TIN I'd be eternally greatful. I hate saving a four line posting with 68 lines of paths ... {:-) TIA, please e-mail answer also. And while I'm on it. Is it a well-known bug that when you reply/answer a mesage, then postpone -- the messge is not properly flagged ?? Is there an easy way to write-out to a file while composing/replying ??? That could give me multiple postpones .... right ???? FWIW. -- Sincerely, Stu L. lerner@netcom.com -------------------------------------------------------------- email: lerner@netcom.com "This .sig sold by weight, not by volume contents may have settled during shipping." -- .SIG disclaimer -------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Feb 28 23:39:05 1995 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA07557; Tue, 28 Feb 95 23:39:05 -0800 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12826; Tue, 28 Feb 95 23:33:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW95.02/UW-NDC Revision: 2.32 ) id AA12820; Tue, 28 Feb 95 23:33:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.29.1 #3) id m0rjitY-00038CC; Tue, 28 Feb 95 23:32 PST To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: penev@pisa.Rockefeller.edu (Penio Penev) Subject: Re: SGI's pine Message-Id: References: Date: Tue, 28 Feb 1995 19:19:40 GMT Status: O X-Status: On Thu, 23 Feb 1995 20:59:33 GMT Thomas Wong (tktw@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote: | Is there a pine binary for SGI available somewhere | on the net? I couldn't find one on ftp.cac.wahington.edu. This should go to the FAQ. Try ftp://venezia.rockefeller.edu/pub/penev/IRIX4/pine-3.91 -- Penio Penev 1-212-327-7423