From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 08:03:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27681; Fri, 1 Jul 94 08:03:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26650; Fri, 1 Jul 94 07:54:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26644; Fri, 1 Jul 94 07:54:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJjfs-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 07:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dqle@netcom.com (The Road Warrior) Subject: Re: Which Mircophone version Message-Id: References: <199406292230.AA20318@crl.crl.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 07:42:32 GMT San Francisco Airport (sooffice@crl.com) wrote: : I was hoping someone could help me pick which MicroPhone version to buy. : Pine help says for printing and receiving Mac users should buy MicroPhone : 2, version 4.0. The latest versions are MicroPhone Pro 2.0 and : MicroPhone 2, versrion 5.0. Which one will work better? : I would appreciate any advice : Anton Goldman : Bureau of Exhibitions, SFIA I've been using Microphone II version 4.03 with my account at Netcom, and it's done beautifully for me. I looked thru all the new features present in Microphone Pro, but didn't care to shell out the extra cash to go for those bells and whistles. I suggest you buy Microphone II version 5.0, you'll be quite happy with it. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ David "Q" Le "I...am Q...and you have absolutely Market Strategies, Inc. *no* idea how screwed up this is..." dqle@netcom.com (Q-squared, by Peter David) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 09:16:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00780; Fri, 1 Jul 94 09:16:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15570; Fri, 1 Jul 94 09:09:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15564; Fri, 1 Jul 94 09:09:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJkqo-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 08:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: Enhancement request: address book expansion Date: 1 Jul 1994 10:45:56 -0500 Message-Id: <9407011551.AA14545@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: <2up65c$rsr@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV> In article <2up65c$rsr@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>, jxt@ca04.cad.ornl.gov write: |> |> I think it would be nice to have an optional FCC entry in the address book such |> that when I compose mail to an alias in the address book, the FCC header field |> would automatically be filled with the FCC entry from the address book. |> |> For example, composing mail to "joe" would produce |> |> Fcc : mail-to-joe When I moved to Pine from IBM VM Rice Mail (which had a NOTEBOOK tag feature in the NAMES file, the equivalent of .addressbook), I suggested this to Pine's authors. They very kindly took notice of it and inserted it in the wishlist, I wonder if it will be implemented soon. B.t.w. I hope your suggestion does not imply that all mail to "pinco" is saved in folder "mail-to-pinco", but in a named folder, whose name you choose in .addressbook. This way one can log mail to individuals according to projects. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 10:11:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03053; Fri, 1 Jul 94 10:11:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29703; Fri, 1 Jul 94 10:04:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29697; Fri, 1 Jul 94 10:04:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJlio-00000JC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 09:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cwg@urbino.mcc.com (Chris Garrigues) Subject: Re: mh folders Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 14:54:17 GMT In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Pine 3.90 will include support for MH folders by default. It is also >possible to build Pine 3.89 with the latest IMAP toolkit to get the new >driver.... I finally did this yesterday and Pine 3.89 doesn't appear to work with IMAP 3.4; I had problems with the identifier "lhostn" which appears to have disappeared from IMAP. Chris -- Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328 3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838 Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 12:41:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07898; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:41:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20228; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:31:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20222; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:31:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJo1u-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simcha@cimage.com (Simcha Lerner) Subject: Pine doesn't like . folder names Date: 1 Jul 1994 18:52:10 GMT Message-Id: <2v1okq$9rt@dgsi.cimage.com> Since I use pine (3.89 on sun) on the same system that I use Sun's mailtool, I set up default-fcc to ".record" (used by mailtool). I don't mind that lack of .record from the list of folders (this is a feature as far as I am concerned, since I can jump to and read the folder without any problem). On the other hand, this folder name breaks sending mail from compose. When I try to send the message (^X), I am told: Folder ".record" doesn't exist. Create? (y/n/^C) [y]: If I say no, pine complains that the fcc was rejected. If I say yes, I complains that it couldn't create it since it already exists. In any case, I can't send the message unless I change the fcc field. Thanks. -- Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner simcha@cimage.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 13:09:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09050; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:09:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03491; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:01:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03485; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:01:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJoVg-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: horen@applicom.co.il (Jonathan B. Horen) Subject: VI-style Cursor Movement? Message-Id: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 18:55:25 GMT Shalom! I'm running Pine 3.89.1.2 (Hebrew support) at our site, so I've begun using it myself (me -- an old /usr/ucb/mail diehard :) OK -- thanks for the help about using ¬/ on my VT220 at home to get outta that *awful* PICO and back into VI. Now... is there any way to teach Pine to recognize the j and k keys within menus as Next/Previous Line? and the h and l keys, too, within folder listings? ---------------------------horen@applicom.co.il--------------------------- Jonathan B. Horen Sr. System Administrator Applicom Systems, Ltd. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 13:20:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09337; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:20:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21084; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:10:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21078; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:10:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJofH-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rohit Gupta Subject: Re: Which Mircophone version Message-Id: References: <199406292230.AA20318@crl.crl.com> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 05:52:27 GMT San Francisco Airport (sooffice@crl.com) wrote: : I was hoping someone could help me pick which MicroPhone version to buy. : Pine help says for printing and receiving Mac users should buy MicroPhone : 2, version 4.0. The latest versions are MicroPhone Pro 2.0 and : MicroPhone 2, versrion 5.0. Which one will work better? : I would appreciate any advice : Anton Goldman : Bureau of Exhibitions, SFIA I personally have Microphone LT, which came with my modem. But My friend has Microphone Pro 2.0, which he says is much better. It is more powerful, and easier to use. That would be your best bet. However, I don't know how much it costs, but it shouldn't be over $150. Actually, it costs $149.95 in Mac Wharehouse. E-mail me on your choice. I want to see what you picked. -- Rohit Gupta From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 13:22:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09401; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:22:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03994; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:17:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03988; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:17:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJojc-00000HC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 12:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Cheese & Onions) Subject: Re: Getting files from the disc into pine Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:52:29 GMT Message-Id: <2v1s5t$4ai@panther.Gsu.EDU> References: : : Is it at all possible to get a file from one of my discs and then put : : it in to the pine editor and then post it on ? Please would you explain : It sounds like you want to (1) upload a file from some other computer and : then (2) bring that file into Pine for mailing. #1 has too many : variations to make it efficient to try to answer it without more : information, and someone "local" to your working environment will : probably be able to help you more efficiently. Unless you're using a Windows terminal to read pine mail, like I do (I log on to my school's mainframe via Windows Terminal). If you do this, then you can cut text with the mouse and paste it (use the menu in case the Paste keys cause your email computer system to do funky things). If I have text from a wordprocessor, a gopher item, or world wide web that I want to share with someone, I Cut it with the mouse, Paste it into Notepad, edit it there, Cut it all at once with the mouse and Paste it into pine. Try it! For #2: once you have : the file in a directory on the same computer that's running pine for you, : the Ctrl-R command starts R)eading it "in" to your Pine document. Once : you've typed Ctrl-R, the menu changes and Ctrl-T gives you a list of : currently accessible files. If you know the file is somewhere, and it : doesn't show up in that list, you'll need to use your host systems : file-management commands to move it to the right directory. You may see : various ugly things in the file once you bring it in to Pine -- that will : be because the upload process hasn't dealt completely with the variations : in conventions about how to store text in files. If that happens, you'll : need to ask more, and more specific, questions about the upload processes : that suit your situation. : It sounds worse than it is. But it did take me a while to figure out. : And I still get "Warning: last line of file is {something wrong}" : messages about half the time. Sometimes there's a ^Z there. Deleting it : seems to get rid of the problem. : Incidently, the reverse process starts with Ctrl-E, to E)xport the text : of your pine message to a file which can be downloaded, etc. : Good luck, : Putnam Barber : Seattle -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- James Poulakos engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu **All postings from engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu: (c) James Poulakos, 1994, unless otherwise noted therein. All rights reserved.** --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 13:26:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09480; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:26:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21255; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:20:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21249; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:20:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJono-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 13:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthewn@uiuc.edu Subject: Re: Pine doesn't like . folder names Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:46:59 GMT Message-Id: <2v1rrj$liq@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2v1okq$9rt@dgsi.cimage.com> simcha@cimage.com (Simcha Lerner) writes: >Since I use pine (3.89 on sun) on the same system that I use Sun's >mailtool, I set up default-fcc to ".record" (used by mailtool). > >When I try to send the message (^X), I am told: > > Folder ".record" doesn't exist. Create? (y/n/^C) [y]: A few minutes ago, I had the same problem for the first time. It didn't do it for the next mail I sent out, though. It would seem to be an intermittant problem. Any clues? -- Matt Hewn -- Information is not knowledge; knowledge is not wisdom; wisdom is not truth. Truth is absolute. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 14:39:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12281; Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:39:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05600; Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:31:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05594; Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:31:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJprG-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 14:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jabutt@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Joe Butt) Subject: Cursor movement; Other suggestions for next upgrade Date: 1 Jul 1994 08:15:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199407011315.JAA03796@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU> This past upgrade of pico (I'm using 2.2 on Unix) is *great!* Marking blocks is a large improvement. Thanks. I'm glad to hear that there will be a way to move to the beginning and end of a file. I'd also like to suggest that the next version have a way to move back one word at a time. Also, it would be very helpful if one could perform a file save on a marked block rather than having to delete the rest of the file and change the file name. It's probably been mentioned before, but tagging messages in pine would be very helpful for batch deletes or saves. Back to pico, is there a way to make a supplementary dictionary for spell checking? That would be a great help to me. I'm encouraged to find this newsgroup, and impressed at the 'complaint department' work Dave Miller is providing. --Joe Joe Butt -- jabutt@sacam.oren.ortn.edu ***** As soon as we started programming, we found to our surprise that it wasn't as easy to get programs right as we had thought. Debugging had to be discovered. I can remember the exact instant when I realized that a large part of my life from then on was going to be spent in finding mistakes in my own programs. -- Maurice Wilkes discovers debugging, 1949 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 15:24:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13747; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:24:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24001; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:20:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23995; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:20:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJqhb-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sti@cs.hut.fi (Sami-Jaakko Tikka) Subject: Re: Shareware Postscript Converter Date: 2 Jul 1994 00:16:02 +0300 Message-Id: <2v212iINNhq0@tahma.cs.hut.fi> References: <1994Jun23.203108.26889@nysernet.org> <2utfv8$oca@nwfocus.wa.com> <2uvjsd$lgd@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In <2uvjsd$lgd@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> altitude@umich.edu (Alex Tang) writes: >Actually, enscript (at least the version 3 and up) is licensed to adobe. >it's not free. But then there is nenscript, which is. My version is 1.13. -- Sami.Tikka@hut.fi "Peace and Long Life." "Live Long and Prosper." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 15:39:09 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14277; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:39:09 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06819; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:31:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06813; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:31:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJqqv-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 15:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Evelyn Albrecht) Subject: Re: Pine doesn't like . folder names Message-Id: <1994Jul1.210803.14511@henson.cc.wwu.edu> References: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 21:08:03 GMT David L Miller writes: >This is a known problem. In the interim, try making a symbolic link from >sent-mail to .record... >|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA >On 1 Jul 1994, Simcha Lerner wrote: [ Rest of message eliminated.] This was a perfect example of why I prefer the original message to come 1st. Being at a site close to the U. of W. I almost always get David's prompt responses before I see the original post, and in this case, as in others, the reply didn't make sense until I'd read the question, by which time I'd forgotten the reply, so had to go back up to it. Somehow that seems like *lots* more work than using ^V to skim past material I don't need to see when the original message comes 1st. I'll certainly 2nd the comments that David's replies are excellent. Evelyn -- |Evelyn Albrecht Ph: (206) 650-3239 | |Academic Computing Services Internet: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu | |Western Washington Univ. | |Bellingham, WA 98225-9094 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 16:24:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15934; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:24:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07890; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:20:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07884; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:20:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJrbV-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: ^L Date: 1 Jul 1994 10:52:23 -0500 Message-Id: |> : Ogawa / Taro Stephen (ISE) (u934132@student.canberra.edu.au) wrote: |> : : How can Insert ^Ls in pine - Any way? |> What I did was to create a file .FormFeed in my home directory, containing a single form feed, and including it with control-R when I need it od -a .FormFeed 0000000 ff nl -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 16:25:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15954; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:25:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25283; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:20:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25277; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:20:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJrbT-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lucio@ifctr.mi.cnr.it (Lucio Chiappetti) Subject: Re: sorting addresses by nickname Date: 1 Jul 1994 10:52:18 -0500 Message-Id: <9407011558.AA14570@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> References: In article , ccasuzi@techunix.technion.ac.il (Susan Feingold) write: |> I would like to sort the e-mail addresses in my Adressbook according to the |> nickname given to this address. Pine sorts by Addressee name. I do not I use the following trick (works only if nickname is either surname or first name). If the nickname is the first name I insert the data in .addressbook as follows anna Anna Silina c/o IFCTR silina@ifctr.mi.cnr.it if it is the surname instead I use abbey Abbey - Leicester, Tony afa@star.le.ac.uk Pine will take care of reversing everything after a comma, so the latter will appear addressed as To: Tony Abbey - Leicester -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 16:29:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16153; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:29:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25394; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:25:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25388; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:25:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJrge-00000HC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 16:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Enhancement request: address book expansion Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 09:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9407011551.AA14545@poseidon.ifctr.mi.cnr.it> Pine 3.90 will have an Fcc entry in the addressbook... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Jul 1994, Lucio Chiappetti wrote: > In article <2up65c$rsr@stc06.CTD.ORNL.GOV>, jxt@ca04.cad.ornl.gov write: > |> > |> I think it would be nice to have an optional FCC entry in the address book such > |> that when I compose mail to an alias in the address book, the FCC header field > |> would automatically be filled with the FCC entry from the address book. > |> > |> For example, composing mail to "joe" would produce > |> > |> Fcc : mail-to-joe > > When I moved to Pine from IBM VM Rice Mail (which had a NOTEBOOK > tag feature in the NAMES file, the equivalent of .addressbook), I > suggested this to Pine's authors. > They very kindly took notice of it and inserted it in the wishlist, > I wonder if it will be implemented soon. > > B.t.w. I hope your suggestion does not imply that all mail to > "pinco" is saved in folder "mail-to-pinco", but in a named folder, > whose name you choose in .addressbook. > This way one can log mail to individuals according to projects. > > > -- > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > A member of G.ASS : Group for Astronomical Software Support > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Lucio Chiappetti - IFCTR/CNR | Ma te' vugl' da' quost avis a ti' Orsign > via Bassini 15 - I-20133 Milano | Buttet rabios intant te se' pisnign > Internet: LUCIO@IFCTR.MI.CNR.IT | > Decnet: IFCTR::LUCIO | (Rabisch, II 46, 119-120) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 17:13:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17988; Fri, 1 Jul 94 17:13:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09141; Fri, 1 Jul 94 17:07:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netcom2.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09135; Fri, 1 Jul 94 17:07:36 -0700 Received: by netcom2.netcom.com (8.6.8.1/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id RAA04460; Fri, 1 Jul 1994 17:07:52 -0700 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 17:07:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Schow-Backstage Productions Subject: huh To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 19:24:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20485; Fri, 1 Jul 94 19:24:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11071; Fri, 1 Jul 94 19:20:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11065; Fri, 1 Jul 94 19:20:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJuSV-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 19:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donm@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu (Bengt-Erik Norum) Subject: Pine for Novell Date: 1 Jul 1994 19:17:13 GMT Message-Id: <2v1q3p$rbg@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> Is there a pine that will read .cnm files on novell? -- Don Miller ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ::::::::: :::::::: :::: ::: mille932@cs.uidaho.edu :+: :+: :+: :+: :+:+: :+: donm@uidaho.edu +:+ +:+ +:+ +:+ :+:+:+ +:+ don_miller@uidaho.edu +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ donm@osprey.csrv.uidaho.edu +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+#+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+#+# ######### ######## ### #### http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~mille932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 20:25:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21501; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:25:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29422; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:21:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29416; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:21:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJvOk-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: fix os.c [Re: mh folders] Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 19:49:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2v2el7$if4@news.doit.wisc.edu> The #mh/folder will work on the folder-collections line in your .pinerc, but not at the Goto prompt... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 2 Jul 1994, Mumit Khan wrote: > In article , wrote: > > David L Miller wrote: > >> > >> > >>I am told that you should be able to delete the references to "lhostn" in > >>pine/init.c and get it to compile... > > > >It did compile, but I still couldn't see the mh folders. Of course, I > >could have had something else still wrong. > > > >Chris > > the other thing you have to do is to '#' out of the 'illegal first character' > set in os.c (line 392 and thereabouts), so #mh/folder would be considered > a valid folder name. I still can't get it to work, but that's probably my > lack of knowledge in addressing folders in pine. > > mumit > > %-----------------------------------------------------------------% > Mumit Khan khan@xraylith.wisc.edu > Center for X-ray Lithography Tel: 608-877-2418 > University of Wisconsin-Madison FAX: 608-877-2401 > %-----------------------------------------------------------------% > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 20:41:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21805; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:41:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12209; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:37:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12203; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:37:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJvae-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: mh folders Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 13:23:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I am told that you should be able to delete the references to "lhostn" in pine/init.c and get it to compile... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, Chris Garrigues wrote: > In article , > David L Miller wrote: > > > >Pine 3.90 will include support for MH folders by default. It is also > >possible to build Pine 3.89 with the latest IMAP toolkit to get the new > >driver.... > > I finally did this yesterday and Pine 3.89 doesn't appear to work with > IMAP 3.4; I had problems with the identifier "lhostn" which appears to > have disappeared from IMAP. > > Chris > > > -- > Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com > Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328 > 3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838 > Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 20:41:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21826; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:41:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29663; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:37:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29657; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:37:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJvaq-00000HC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine doesn't like . folder names Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 13:26:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2v1okq$9rt@dgsi.cimage.com> This is a known problem. In the interim, try making a symbolic link from sent-mail to .record... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Jul 1994, Simcha Lerner wrote: > Since I use pine (3.89 on sun) on the same system that I use Sun's > mailtool, I set up default-fcc to ".record" (used by mailtool). > > I don't mind that lack of .record from the list of folders (this is > a feature as far as I am concerned, since I can jump to and read > the folder without any problem). On the other hand, this folder name > breaks sending mail from compose. > > When I try to send the message (^X), I am told: > > Folder ".record" doesn't exist. Create? (y/n/^C) [y]: > > If I say no, pine complains that the fcc was rejected. If I say > yes, I complains that it couldn't create it since it already exists. > > In any case, I can't send the message unless I change the fcc field. > > Thanks. > > -- > Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner > simcha@cimage.com > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 20:49:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21973; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:49:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12331; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:46:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12325; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:46:48 -0700 Received: from [198.214.42.2] by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18267; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:46:47 -0700 Received: by genesis.tdhca.texas.gov (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA06942; Fri, 1 Jul 1994 22:46:14 +0100 Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 22:43:20 +0100 (GDT) From: Alex Maldonado Subject: deliver help To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can someone please tell me where to find documentation for the program deliver? thanks ! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 20:52:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22060; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:52:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12365; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:48:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12357; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:48:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJvjo-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 20:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edgar@.wired.com (Edgar Nielsen) Subject: Re: mh folders Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 03:14:33 GMT I got this stuff working, but only when I access a folder using the imap daemon; i.e. I have to add {localhost} before the mailbox name. So I have to login via IMAP again, but at least it works! Edgar Nielsen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 21:23:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22589; Fri, 1 Jul 94 21:23:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00301; Fri, 1 Jul 94 21:19:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from max.tiac.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00295; Fri, 1 Jul 94 21:19:49 -0700 Received: (from cjwoods@localhost) by max.tiac.net (8.6.8/8.6.6.Beta9) id AAA29143; Sat, 2 Jul 1994 00:14:59 -0400 Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 00:14:57 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Woods Subject: Re: deliver help To: Alex Maldonado Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, Alex Maldonado wrote: > > Can someone please tell me where to find documentation for the program > deliver? > > thanks ! > > I have some dox here that came with the Slackware installation I ftp'ed from tsx-11.mit.edu. Unfortunately, I don't know of any SEPARATE dox. Tried an archie search yet? Chris Woods----Customer Support----(617) 275-2221 The Internet Access Company--7 Railroad Ave.--Bedford, MA USA support@tiac.net-----help@tiac.net-----cjwoods@tiac.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 22:31:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23717; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:31:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01263; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:26:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01257; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:26:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJxIG-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cwg@urbino.mcc.com Subject: Re: mh folders Message-Id: References: Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 21:38:32 GMT David L Miller wrote in article : > > >I am told that you should be able to delete the references to "lhostn" in >pine/init.c and get it to compile... It did compile, but I still couldn't see the mh folders. Of course, I could have had something else still wrong. Chris Chris Garrigues (MIME capable) cwg@mcc.com Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corporation +1 512 338 3328 3500 West Balcones Center Fax +1 512 338 3838 Austin, TX 78759-5398 USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 23:24:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24458; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:24:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01926; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:19:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01920; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:18:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJy4v-00000FC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to put newsgroups into pine Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 22:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: What do you have set for "news-collections" in your .pinerc file? Is your newsfeed on the local system or a remote NNTP server? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Steve Schow-Backstage Productions wrote: > > Hello, > > I am trying to get pine to show my subscribed newsgroups, but having a > little trouble with that. Anyone that can help me? > > -steve > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 23:24:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24462; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:24:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14389; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:18:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14383; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:18:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJy4u-00000BC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: NFS mounting /usr/mail on hp Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 22:28:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2us0m2$5vf@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Actually, an NFS mounted /usr/mail is a sure source of problems. We strongly recommend using IMAP for remote folder access and especially for remote INBOX access. The usual source of lock related hangs is a stuck rpc.lockd on the server... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 29 Jun 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: > I have tried to NFS mount the /usr/mail directory on an HP9000 running > hp-ux 9.0. The Pine tech notes imply that this shold work fairly well, > however, whenever I try to run pine on the mounted file system, it > simply hangs up forever, and has to be killed from another session. it > then becomes a "zombie" process. > > The problem seems to have something to do with file locking. When pine > hangs up, the mail file cannot be accessed even after the /usr/mail area > is unmounted. I had to rename the file and copy over the contents before > pine would open it again. I checked for lock files, and find only the > .\usr\mail\username file. Deleting it has no effect. > > Any recommendations about how to get this to work will be > greatly appreciated. > > -- > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 23:24:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24497; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:24:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14397; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:19:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14391; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:19:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJy4x-00000IC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 22:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine for Novell Date: Fri, 1 Jul 1994 22:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2v1q3p$rbg@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> What are .cnm files? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 1 Jul 1994, Bengt-Erik Norum wrote: > Is there a pine that will read .cnm files on novell? > > -- > Don Miller > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > ::::::::: :::::::: :::: ::: mille932@cs.uidaho.edu > :+: :+: :+: :+: :+:+: :+: donm@uidaho.edu > +:+ +:+ +:+ +:+ :+:+:+ +:+ don_miller@uidaho.edu > +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ donm@osprey.csrv.uidaho.edu > +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+#+# > #+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+#+# > ######### ######## ### #### http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~mille932 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 1 23:31:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24646; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:31:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02035; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:26:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02029; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:26:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qJyFf-00000PC; Fri, 1 Jul 94 23:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khan@xraylith.wisc.edu (Mumit Khan) Subject: fix os.c [Re: mh folders] Date: 2 Jul 1994 01:07:51 GMT Message-Id: <2v2el7$if4@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: In article , wrote: > David L Miller wrote: >> >> >>I am told that you should be able to delete the references to "lhostn" in >>pine/init.c and get it to compile... > >It did compile, but I still couldn't see the mh folders. Of course, I >could have had something else still wrong. > >Chris the other thing you have to do is to '#' out of the 'illegal first character' set in os.c (line 392 and thereabouts), so #mh/folder would be considered a valid folder name. I still can't get it to work, but that's probably my lack of knowledge in addressing folders in pine. mumit %-----------------------------------------------------------------% Mumit Khan khan@xraylith.wisc.edu Center for X-ray Lithography Tel: 608-877-2418 University of Wisconsin-Madison FAX: 608-877-2401 %-----------------------------------------------------------------% From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 06:38:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03065; Sat, 2 Jul 94 06:38:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20437; Sat, 2 Jul 94 06:34:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20431; Sat, 2 Jul 94 06:34:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qK4sE-000005C; Sat, 2 Jul 94 06:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bogusz@fuw.edu.pl (Wojtek Bogusz) Subject: PINE and cryptography Message-Id: Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 13:06:27 GMT Hello, I would like to express few off my thoughts about what I need from pine to be able to do in the field of cryptography. I was thinking about using pine with PGP. I even got a patch which add to pico editor ability to crypt a message with recipients public key or sign it with your key. But there is no possibility to decrypt a message or check signature. What makes a usage of PGP impossible with pine. Wouldn't it be nice to add some extended field to mail header. Something like Content-Type: text/crypted, text/signature ...??? Such header would cause pine to start a command defined in .pinerc or in .mailcap This command would be started with some enviromental varialbe like SENDING (RECEIVING), TMP_MAIL_FILE, FROM_USER, FROM_HOST, TO_USER, TO_HOST read from the header. This command would get and return a mail body through TMP_MAIL_FILE. In general it would be a good way when receiving and sending mail. When sending pine could have one extra field in Rich Hdr, Crypt: With value y or n And with default set in .pinerc. There would be also nice to be able to store your mail crypted in the folders on the disk. But it is reasonable (for example in PGP) to store them crypted in different way than how they where during sending/receiving (for example not in public-key but DES way). I wonder does anybody except me is interested to have thing like this in pine :-) ? And does this what I wrote makes sense at all ? Regards Wojtek Bogusz --- e-mail: Wojtek.Bogusz@fuw.edu.pl From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 13:46:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09091; Sat, 2 Jul 94 13:46:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25993; Sat, 2 Jul 94 13:42:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25987; Sat, 2 Jul 94 13:42:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKBcb-000005C; Sat, 2 Jul 94 13:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: geter@crl.com (Andy Gelernter) Subject: filter -c command Date: 2 Jul 1994 13:16:12 -0700 Message-Id: <2v4huc$bgf@crl2.crl.com> I am using filter to route incoming email in pine and everything works great - but the command filter -c (used at the % prompt) seems to get lost in cyberspace... I have waited upto 5 minutes and it does not seem to work. Any ideas what i'm doing wrong? -c option is used to clear the filterlog file. also i found out that in the filter-rules you can sort based on the FROM line in an email header and not just the TO and CC lines :) thanks in advance - andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 20:22:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14842; Sat, 2 Jul 94 20:22:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01227; Sat, 2 Jul 94 20:14:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01221; Sat, 2 Jul 94 20:14:55 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16633; Sun, 3 Jul 94 11:15:20 +0800 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 11:15:19 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: filter -c command To: Andy Gelernter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2v4huc$bgf@crl2.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 2 Jul 1994, Andy Gelernter wrote: > I am using filter to route incoming email in pine and everything works > great - but the command filter -c (used at the % prompt) seems to get > lost in cyberspace... I have waited upto 5 minutes and it does not seem > to work. Any ideas what i'm doing wrong? -c option is used to clear the > filterlog file. > > also i found out that in the filter-rules you can sort based on the FROM > line in an email header and not just the TO and CC lines :) Since "filter" is from the elm distribution don't you think that the elm group would have been a more appropriate place to ask this question? Be that as it may....have you tried: filter -c -s or filter -c -S regards, Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 23:00:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17568; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:00:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21378; Sat, 2 Jul 94 22:53:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21364; Sat, 2 Jul 94 22:53:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKKCd-00000IC; Sat, 2 Jul 94 22:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sayhow@solomon.technet.sg (Foo Say How) Subject: Re: Off-line composing Date: 3 Jul 1994 05:27:01 GMT Message-Id: <2v5i75$cme@raffles.technet.sg> References: <2upfi4$6ih@mozz.unh.edu> It will ok if you only send ONE paragraph through PINE. If you have compose your letter offline, and consist of several paragraph, with columnar text and numbers, you will find all these jumble up into one paragraph. The only way out for me is is load in joe and upload the ascii file as text, save it as file (or as the origibal posted suggest upload as file and read in.) It is nothing to do with how my program is configured if I can upload OK into Joe, I should upload OK into PINE, so the question is then how is PINE/PICO configuration differ from JOE? FSH Dan Mandell (dmandell@saintmarys.edu) wrote: : I have had fairly good luck uploading text files using Procomm's Ascii upload : directly into Pine's compose mode - which fill the screen with ANSI : looking stuff - but pressing ^J (Justify) usually removes the ANSI stuff, : making this the simplest upload procedure of all. I don't know how : reliable it is either, but it seems to usually work for me. : Dan : On 28 Jun 1994, Dan Ford wrote: : > >>On he other hand, if I just compose the message itself, at home and in : > >>ASCII, and try to upload it into pine; then I get a raft of errors, most : > >>of which look like ANSI codes, though they probably are not. I must then : > >>cancel the message, exit PINE, upload the message as a file to my UNIX : > >>account, re-enter PINE, and then use the feature of which you : > >>have spoken. : > >> : > If I go right ahead and send it, however, the message seems to unscramble : > itself and comes out okay at the other end. I've done this sending : > letters to myself, but I am not quite prepared to risk it off-site. So I : > use the mail utility mentioned in an earlier posting. : > -- : > - Dan : > : -- : ===================================== : Dan Mandell, Computer Services, Saint Mary's College : Internet: dmandell@saintmarys.edu : "Others promise you the World. We deliver!": New York Times From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 23:20:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17917; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:20:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03631; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:13:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03624; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:13:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKKV2-00000BC; Sat, 2 Jul 94 22:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE and cryptography Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 22:43:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Nathaniel Borenstein recently submitted a draft proposal for PGP support in MIME. It is very possible that Pine will support this proposal at some point, assuming it develops in a reasonable fashion. It is available as draft-borenstein-pgp-mime-00.txt or draft-borenstein-pgp-mime-00.ps from your nearest RFC repository (e.g. ftp.isi.edu). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 2 Jul 1994, Wojtek Bogusz wrote: > > Hello, > > I would like to express few off my thoughts about what I need from > pine to be able to do in the field of cryptography. > > I was thinking about using pine with PGP. I even got a patch which > add to pico editor ability to crypt a message with recipients public > key or sign it with your key. But there is no possibility to decrypt a > message or check signature. What makes a usage of PGP impossible with > pine. > > Wouldn't it be nice to add some extended field to mail header. > Something like Content-Type: text/crypted, text/signature ...??? Such > header would cause pine to start a command defined in .pinerc or in > .mailcap This command would be started with some enviromental varialbe > like SENDING (RECEIVING), TMP_MAIL_FILE, FROM_USER, FROM_HOST, > TO_USER, TO_HOST read from the header. This command would get and > return a mail body through TMP_MAIL_FILE. In general it would be a > good way when receiving and sending mail. When sending pine could have > one extra field in Rich Hdr, Crypt: With value y or n And with default > set in .pinerc. > > There would be also nice to be able to store your mail crypted in the > folders on the disk. But it is reasonable (for example in PGP) to > store them crypted in different way than how they where during > sending/receiving (for example not in public-key but DES way). > > I wonder does anybody except me is interested to have thing like this > in pine :-) ? And does this what I wrote makes sense at all ? > > Regards > Wojtek Bogusz > > --- > e-mail: Wojtek.Bogusz@fuw.edu.pl > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 2 23:49:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18391; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:49:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22062; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:43:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22056; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:43:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKL1f-00000BC; Sat, 2 Jul 94 23:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: svierte@ecst.csuchico.edu (Steve Viertell) Subject: Arrow Cursor Date: Sat, 2 Jul 1994 23:24:41 UNDEFINED Message-Id: I know there has been some discussion on this in the past, but I can't remember what the answers were; How do you have Pine default to using an arrow cursor to point to your selection on the menus instead of the inverse highlight. Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 09:54:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28262; Sun, 3 Jul 94 09:54:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11899; Sun, 3 Jul 94 09:43:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11893; Sun, 3 Jul 94 09:43:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKUKd-000005C; Sun, 3 Jul 94 09:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edb@ten-fwd.airpcs.com (Earl Baker) Subject: Question-Re: Multiple recipients addresses showing in the header Date: 3 Jul 1994 16:20:07 GMT Message-Id: <2v6ofn$ddu@news.cerf.net> References: <2un7ht$7r3@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> <2un9mo$90r@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca> In article <2un9mo$90r@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>, Big Brother wrote: >Put the distribution list in the 'bcc' (blind carbon copy) line. You can get >to 'bcc' by type Ctrl R while in the header. None of the recipients will see >who it went to. Is there any limit to the number of names in the bcc line? If I am distributing a mailer to, say, 150 people, will it balk at me? Earl Baker -- edb@airpcs.com a.k.a. skyweasel@airpcs.com sss k k y y w w eee a sss eee l ss kk yy www ee aaa ss ee l sss k k y w w eee a a sss eee llll From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 11:56:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29904; Sun, 3 Jul 94 11:56:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01438; Sun, 3 Jul 94 11:49:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01432; Sun, 3 Jul 94 11:49:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKWJ3-00000LC; Sun, 3 Jul 94 11:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Question-Re: Multiple recipients addresses showing in the header Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 11:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2v6ofn$ddu@news.cerf.net> There is no theoretical limit to the number of addresses in any of the headers. There have been occasional interaction problems with sendmail for very long lists though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 3 Jul 1994, Earl Baker wrote: > In article <2un9mo$90r@nermal.cs.uoguelph.ca>, > Big Brother wrote: > >Put the distribution list in the 'bcc' (blind carbon copy) line. You can get > >to 'bcc' by type Ctrl R while in the header. None of the recipients will see > >who it went to. > > Is there any limit to the number of names in the bcc line? If I > am distributing a mailer to, say, 150 people, will it balk at me? > > Earl Baker > > -- > edb@airpcs.com a.k.a. skyweasel@airpcs.com > sss k k y y w w eee a sss eee l > ss kk yy www ee aaa ss ee l > sss k k y w w eee a a sss eee llll > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 13:57:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01848; Sun, 3 Jul 94 13:57:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15012; Sun, 3 Jul 94 13:49:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15006; Sun, 3 Jul 94 13:49:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKYB6-000005C; Sun, 3 Jul 94 13:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: macke@isca.uiowa.edu (Brian Macke) Subject: VMS Pine and .pinerc Date: 3 Jul 1994 20:12:08 GMT Message-Id: <2v762o$f2@nexus.uiowa.edu> I've sucsessfully compiled VMS Pine and Pico on our VAX and am anxious to try them out, but I've hit one snag. For some reason, our machine doesn't support SMTP. I get "Error connecting to mail server" when I try to send. My domain-server vaiable is set to "cnsvax.uwec.edu" I cannoy seem to set the PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL variable for the life of me. Has anyone else run into this problem? Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Brian James Macke mackebj@cnsvax.uwec.edu The Prophet macke@lust.isca.uiowa.edu -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 14:26:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02288; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:26:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03277; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:09:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03271; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:09:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKYXy-000005C; Sun, 3 Jul 94 13:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donm@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu (Don C. Miller) Subject: Re: Pine for Novell Date: 3 Jul 1994 20:36:57 GMT Message-Id: <2v77h9$def@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> References: > What are .cnm files? cnm is the extension that charon (whatever the mail server is) names the files when saving them. -- Don Miller ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ::::::::: :::::::: :::: ::: mille932@cs.uidaho.edu :+: :+: :+: :+: :+:+: :+: donm@uidaho.edu +:+ +:+ +:+ +:+ :+:+:+ +:+ don_miller@uidaho.edu +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ donm@osprey.csrv.uidaho.edu +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+#+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+#+# ######### ######## ### #### http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~mille932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 14:34:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02403; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:34:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15422; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:19:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15416; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:19:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKYeP-00000FC; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: donm@raven.csrv.uidaho.edu (Don C. Miller) Subject: Re: Pine for Novell Date: 3 Jul 1994 20:45:49 GMT Message-Id: <2v781t$dgh@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> References: <2v77h9$def@owl.csrv.uidaho.edu> Don C. Miller decided "Hey I will write": > > What are .cnm files? cnm is the extension that charon (whatever the mail server is) names the files when saving them. In other words is there a pine to do the equivalent of pegasus...at least in reading mail? I like pine much better than pegasus for dos. -- Don Miller ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ::::::::: :::::::: :::: ::: mille932@cs.uidaho.edu :+: :+: :+: :+: :+:+: :+: donm@uidaho.edu +:+ +:+ +:+ +:+ :+:+:+ +:+ don_miller@uidaho.edu +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ +:+ +#+ donm@osprey.csrv.uidaho.edu +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+ +#+#+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+# #+#+# ######### ######## ### #### http://www.cs.uidaho.edu/~mille932 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 14:41:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02523; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:41:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03523; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:29:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03517; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:29:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKYqd-000005C; Sun, 3 Jul 94 14:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mteicher@crl.com (M Teicher) Subject: Pine working then not Date: 3 Jul 1994 14:07:18 -0700 Message-Id: <2v79a7$mc5@crl.crl.com> I just installed Linux and Pine was working one day, then the next its not. When I type Pine, nothing happens and I have to hit Ctl-C to get back to the Linux command line. Can anyone help me in finding out what is happening? BTW the Pine executable is present. Thanks in advance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 16:01:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03499; Sun, 3 Jul 94 16:01:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16627; Sun, 3 Jul 94 15:54:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16621; Sun, 3 Jul 94 15:54:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKa87-00000FC; Sun, 3 Jul 94 15:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hameluck@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (Jeff Hameluck) Subject: Ctrl-C to Cancel Message Message-Id: <1994Jul03.215440.23564@sue.cc.uregina.ca> Date: Sun, 03 Jul 1994 21:54:40 GMT I am trying to install Pine 3.89 on two different systems, an HP-UX 9 machine and a Solaris 2 machine. Both work ok but I have nothing but grief with the Ctrl-C to cancel a message thing. On HP-UX ctrl-C always bails right out of pine and on Solaris 2 it seems to work but 90% of the time I don't get the proper: Cancelling will abandon your mail message. Cancel? [n] : prompt above the command list (I can get it sometimes but it's easy and I'm never quite sure how I manage to get it) Usually nothing shows up and then if I hit n for No the No shows up wherever the cursor was. (This is using pico as the editor of course). It seems to me that on HP-UX pico/pine isn't handling the tty right and it is letting ctrl-c just kill it. I don't know what is happening on Solaris 2. Anyone else have these problems? It's quite bad because we were hoping to install pine as some user's shell (obviously this is something people have done/considered because a user can change their password from within pine) and hitting ctrl-c on HPUX when pine is your shell logs you right out. -- Jeff Hameluck hameluck@cs.uregina.ca CL 119 University of Regina (306) 585-4977 Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 18:38:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05659; Sun, 3 Jul 94 18:38:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06568; Sun, 3 Jul 94 18:29:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06562; Sun, 3 Jul 94 18:29:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKcbr-00000fC; Sun, 3 Jul 94 18:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cabirac@yorick.umd.edu (Daniel M. Cabirac) Subject: Cut and paste btwn files? Date: 4 Jul 1994 00:55:40 GMT Message-Id: <2v7mmc$rl8@umd5.umd.edu> How does one cut something out of a file with pico, save it to a file name and then paste it into a different file? Daniel Cabirac cabirac@umd5.umd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 21:16:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07866; Sun, 3 Jul 94 21:16:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20699; Sun, 3 Jul 94 21:10:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20693; Sun, 3 Jul 94 21:10:51 -0700 Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.8.1/Netcom) id VAA12650; Sun, 3 Jul 1994 21:11:09 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 21:11:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Schow-Backstage Productions Subject: Re: How to put newsgroups into pine To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII David, Thanks for replying. I am not sure how my newsfeed is setup here. I believe its on the local machine(netcom.com). ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > What do you have set for "news-collections" in your .pinerc file? Is > your newsfeed on the local system or a remote NNTP server? > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Steve Schow-Backstage Productions wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > I am trying to get pine to show my subscribed newsgroups, but having a > > little trouble with that. Anyone that can help me? > > > > -steve > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 22:30:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08956; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:30:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21705; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:24:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21699; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:24:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKgDQ-00000LC; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oqp@cw-u02.umd.umich.edu (Christopher BIbbs) Subject: Re: How to put newsgroups into pine Date: 4 Jul 1994 04:50:35 GMT Message-Id: <2v84er$8hb@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> References: I've found the easiest way to figure this out if you use tin is to save the article then use pico to look at it. You'll see the path that the article took. The FIRST computer listed is your news server. If its the machine you login on to (like my secondary account) setup as per the local instructions. If not (like this account) set it up as per the remote instructions. Hope that helps you or someone. :) Steve Schow-Backstage Productions (sjs@netcom.com) wrote: : David, : Thanks for replying. I am not sure how my newsfeed is setup here. I : believe its on the local machine(netcom.com). : ------------------------------------------------------------------ : Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you : sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... : (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? : 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear : ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- "Sigs are a waste of bandwidth." Christopher M Bibbs chrisbib@umich.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 3 22:41:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09137; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:41:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21866; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:36:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21860; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:36:39 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10437; Sun, 3 Jul 94 22:36:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 3 Jul 1994 22:36:33 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Steve Schow-Backstage Productions Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to put newsgroups into pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm not sure how netcom is configured either. I know there are plenty of proficient Pine users there though, just ask around... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 3 Jul 1994, Steve Schow-Backstage Productions wrote: > > David, > > Thanks for replying. I am not sure how my newsfeed is setup here. I > believe its on the local machine(netcom.com). > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > On Fri, 1 Jul 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > > > What do you have set for "news-collections" in your .pinerc file? Is > > your newsfeed on the local system or a remote NNTP server? > > > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > > > On Wed, 29 Jun 1994, Steve Schow-Backstage Productions wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am trying to get pine to show my subscribed newsgroups, but having a > > > little trouble with that. Anyone that can help me? > > > > > > -steve > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > > > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > > > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > > > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 01:54:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12357; Mon, 4 Jul 94 01:54:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12219; Mon, 4 Jul 94 01:45:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12213; Mon, 4 Jul 94 01:45:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKjLa-00000IC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 01:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsumler@corsair.ucs.indiana.edu (jeffery sumler) Subject: Re: NFS mounting /usr/mail on hp Message-Id: References: Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 08:21:46 GMT In article , David L Miller wrote: > >Actually, an NFS mounted /usr/mail is a sure source of problems. We Just to cast a different light on this topic, we ran an email service with pine 3.07 (and several other unix mailers) using two HP 735s, one an NFS server that exported /usr/mail and the other a client that mounted /usr/mail (on /usr/mail, naturally :) We had no problems like those Noel has described during the 9 month production run of the service. The key is indeed to make sure that rpc.lockd and rpc.statd (as well as rpc.mountd and portmap) are behaving as they should. You should double check /etc/netnfsrc against /etc/inetd.conf to make sure they agree on what services are being started by whom. We also modified pine slightly so that pine's lock files were created in a directory called /usr/mail/.locks - this prevented the problem of pine creating locks in the /tmp directory of both machines and thus made life a little easier for both users and sysadmins like myself ;) jeff sumler jsumler@corsair.ucs.indiana.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 03:35:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14158; Mon, 4 Jul 94 03:35:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25670; Mon, 4 Jul 94 03:26:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25664; Mon, 4 Jul 94 03:26:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKkv1-00000BC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 03:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yehavi@vms.huji.ac.il Subject: Re: VMS Pine and .pinerc Message-Id: <1994Jul4.115450.4385@vms.huji.ac.il> Date: 4 Jul 94 11:54:50 GMT References: <2v762o$f2@nexus.uiowa.edu> > I've sucsessfully compiled VMS Pine and Pico on our VAX and am anxious to > try them out, but I've hit one snag. For some reason, our machine doesn't > support SMTP. I get "Error connecting to mail server" when I try to send. > > My domain-server vaiable is set to "cnsvax.uwec.edu" You mean SMTP-SERVER, right? Try TELNET/PORT=25 CNSVAX.UWEC.EDU and see whether it works ok or you get some error message there. > I cannoy seem to set the PINE_MAIL_PROTOCOL variable for the life of me. To what value do you try to set it? Please answer directly to me and we'll continue it off-line. __Yehavi: From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 07:23:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18377; Mon, 4 Jul 94 07:23:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16773; Mon, 4 Jul 94 07:15:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16767; Mon, 4 Jul 94 07:15:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKoXG-00000JC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 06:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: D.M.Roch@reading.ac.uk (Mike Roch) Subject: Enhancement suggestion Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 13:46:04 +0000 Message-Id: Pine is very good about status messages telling users what it's up to. One place where a message would be useful is when calling up an external editor. On slow systems it can take 10-20 seconds between hitting the key sequence and anything (apparently) happening. Just a "Invoking alternative editor - please wait" would do. Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 15:43:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28969; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:43:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06010; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:36:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06004; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:36:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKwL3-000005C; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael E. Goldstein Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 17:48:20 EDT Message-Id: <94185.174820GOLDSTN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Subject: pine binary for sun 350? does anyone have pine compiled and running on a sun350 and would be willing to share it? mike goldstien goldstn@maine.maine.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 15:52:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29192; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:52:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23988; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:46:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23982; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:46:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKwWw-00000DC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glewis@netaxs.com (Gerard Lewis) Subject: Pine FAQ? Date: 4 Jul 1994 22:11:24 GMT Message-Id: <2va1ec$c2s@netaxs.com> Please forgive this message if it's already been posted by many before me, but I am a new Pine user and would like a pointer to a FAQ or other complete documentation for Pine. Any help may be directed to my e-mail address, glewis@netaxs.com, so as not to clog this newsgroup. Many thanks. - Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 16:22:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29816; Mon, 4 Jul 94 16:22:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06631; Mon, 4 Jul 94 16:16:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06625; Mon, 4 Jul 94 16:16:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKwxz-00000BC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 15:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: valko@cyberspace.com (Jack Valko) Subject: Re: NFS mounting /usr/mail on hp Date: 4 Jul 1994 15:31:04 -0700 Message-Id: <2va2j8$pms@cyberspace.com> References: I can second this. I tried to NFS mount /usr/mail and sendmail gagged. Definitely lock file problems. Jack David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Actually, an NFS mounted /usr/mail is a sure source of problems. We : strongly recommend using IMAP for remote folder access and especially for : remote INBOX access. The usual source of lock related hangs is a stuck : rpc.lockd on the server... : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) : University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 : 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA : On 29 Jun 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: : > I have tried to NFS mount the /usr/mail directory on an HP9000 running : > hp-ux 9.0. The Pine tech notes imply that this shold work fairly well, : > however, whenever I try to run pine on the mounted file system, it : > simply hangs up forever, and has to be killed from another session. it : > then becomes a "zombie" process. : > : > The problem seems to have something to do with file locking. When pine : > hangs up, the mail file cannot be accessed even after the /usr/mail area : > is unmounted. I had to rename the file and copy over the contents before : > pine would open it again. I checked for lock files, and find only the : > .\usr\mail\username file. Deleting it has no effect. : > : > Any recommendations about how to get this to work will be : > greatly appreciated. : > : > -- : > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * : > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * : > : > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 17:18:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01217; Mon, 4 Jul 94 17:18:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25361; Mon, 4 Jul 94 17:11:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25355; Mon, 4 Jul 94 17:11:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qKxo7-000005C; Mon, 4 Jul 94 16:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larryb@bga.com (Larry Buickel) Subject: How to edit msgs B4 saving to folder? Date: 4 Jul 1994 23:46:45 GMT Message-Id: <2va716$p2v@giga.bga.com> Before I save a message to a folder, I'd like to prune some lines and in order to reduce file space usage. Is there anyway to edit a message from my INBOX before I save it to a folder? Thanks ... *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* Larry L. Buickel | I'm a hopeless chauvinist! Every time I begin to larryb@bga.com | explore my feminine side, I always stop and | cop a feel ... *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Will write DCE apps for food =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 21:51:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05450; Mon, 4 Jul 94 21:51:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10803; Mon, 4 Jul 94 21:41:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10797; Mon, 4 Jul 94 21:41:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qL25A-000005C; Mon, 4 Jul 94 21:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcfong@hkusub ([ Malboro || PC ] 8D) Subject: Re: cancelling the saving of outgoing mail... Message-Id: References: <2us3n1$gv1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 02:02:31 GMT James W Gourgoutis (skoop+@pitt.edu) wrote: : I think that this subject has come up before, but I didn't catch it then. : Sorry for the repetition, if that is the case. : : I was wondering if there was any way of getting around the default : function of saving a copy of outgoing mail to the folder "sent-mail". : Ideally, I'd like to be prompted at the end of each outgoing message, : asking if I would like to save the message or not. : : I find my sent-mail folder rapidly filling up, and I'd like some way of : managing it better. I can suggest a clumsy way to tackle your problem. You could delete your default sent-mail folder everytime you start PINE, like `alias pine "rm -f ~/mail/sent-mail;pine"'. Anybody know a better way round this? -- Malboro Fong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 4 23:31:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06906; Mon, 4 Jul 94 23:31:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00355; Mon, 4 Jul 94 23:22:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00349; Mon, 4 Jul 94 23:22:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qL3ZQ-00000JC; Mon, 4 Jul 94 23:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to edit msgs B4 saving to folder? Date: Mon, 4 Jul 1994 22:58:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2va716$p2v@giga.bga.com> This has been proposed, but is not yet implemented. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 4 Jul 1994, Larry Buickel wrote: > Before I save a message to a folder, I'd like to prune some lines and > in order to reduce file space usage. Is there anyway to edit a > message from my INBOX before I save it to a folder? Thanks ... > > *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* > Larry L. Buickel | I'm a hopeless chauvinist! Every time I begin to > larryb@bga.com | explore my feminine side, I always stop and > | cop a feel ... > *=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*= Will write DCE apps for food =*=*=*=*=*=*=*=*=* > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 00:19:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07618; Tue, 5 Jul 94 00:19:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12638; Tue, 5 Jul 94 00:07:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12632; Tue, 5 Jul 94 00:07:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qL4JZ-000005C; Mon, 4 Jul 94 23:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nui@morakot.nectec.or.th (Kaiwan Hongladaromp) Subject: MIME.. Date: 5 Jul 1994 06:42:27 GMT Message-Id: <2vavcj$q4k@senior.nectec.or.th> HI... After reading amazing thing about MIME and knowing that pine is one of mail user agent that support MIME extension, I wonder if it support the whole set of MIME.. I've try to make up header intend to have Pine do anon-ftp for me but so far it fails me (or I fail pine?). It is probably my lack of correct understanding of MIME syntax that fail my experimental. Anyhow I want to make sure that pine is capable of what I've tried to prove it have. Oh FYI, the current version of pine is 3.87. Thanks in advance. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- __ __ _ / //_/__ _(_) _____ ____ / ,< / _ `/ / |/|/ / _ `/ _ \ /_/|_|\_,_/_/|__,__/\_,_/_//_/ __ __ __ __ / /_/ /__ ___ ___ _/ /__ ____/ /__ ________ __ _ ___ / __ / _ \/ _ \/ _ `/ / _ `/ _ / _ `/ __/ _ \/ ' \/ _ \ /_/ /_/\___/_//_/\_, /_/\_,_/\_,_/\_,_/_/ \___/_/_/_/ .__/ /___/ /_/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 02:14:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09895; Tue, 5 Jul 94 02:14:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02622; Tue, 5 Jul 94 02:04:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02616; Tue, 5 Jul 94 02:04:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qL64Q-00000DC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 01:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: byronl@teleport.com (Byron Lunz) Subject: Can I mark a message NOT-read? Date: 30 Jun 1994 13:05:30 -0700 Message-Id: <2uv8ia$3s6@linda.teleport.com> Is there a way in Unix Pine to mark a message as not read, after you've actually read it? I usually read mail with Pine in a vt100 window, but occasionally I'd like to receive certain messages via Eudora. Once I read the message with Pine, however, Eudora won't recogize it as new mail and retrieve it. Thanks for any advice... -- Byron byronl@teleport.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 06:50:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15363; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:50:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17839; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:32:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17833; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:32:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLAIA-00000NC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oertelh@cs.tu-berlin.de (Helmut Oertel) Subject: Process OUTGOING Mail Date: 5 Jul 1994 13:07:18 GMT Message-Id: <2vblu6$qv0@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, i am a new user to pine - I now know how to filter incoming mail into different folders, but is this possible with outgoing mail too, so that when I send mail to a specific person (or group), it is also copied into a predefined folder automatically? WWW (O O) --oOO--(_)--OOo-------- Helmut Oertel | Technical University of Berlin, Germany E-mail: oertelh@cs.tu-berlin.de | NeXT-Mail: oertcaii@w271zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de Compuserve: 100326,41 | WWW: http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/~oertelh Tel.: +49-30-304 33 52 | FAX : +49-30-305 90 89 -- WWW (O O) --oOO--(_)--OOo-------- Helmut Oertel | Technical University of Berlin, Germany From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 07:22:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16002; Tue, 5 Jul 94 07:22:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06793; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:59:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06787; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:59:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLAjt-00000YC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 06:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Re: NFS mounting /usr/mail on hp Date: 5 Jul 1994 13:30:04 GMT Message-Id: <2vbn8s$hl3@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: <2va2j8$pms@cyberspace.com> : David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : : Actually, an NFS mounted /usr/mail is a sure source of problems. We : : strongly recommend using IMAP for remote folder access and especially for : : remote INBOX access. The usual source of lock related hangs is a stuck : : rpc.lockd on the server... : : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 : : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) Thanks for the information. You might want to change the wording in the documentation (pine technical notes), which implies that Pine works fairly well over NFS mounts is no other mail readers are in use. I think imap would be a better way for me to do this-- but I have not been able to figure out exactly how to set up rimap to eliminate the need for entering passwords. Assuming my hosts and hosts.equiv'ed, and I have a link between imapd and /etc/rimapd, what else do I need to do? I pointed inetd.conf at the link, but it still asked for passwords. Thanks again for your help. Noel -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 08:37:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18666; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:37:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19702; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:22:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19694; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:22:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLC1g-00000MC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthewn@uiuc.edu Subject: Re: cancelling the saving of outgoing mail... Date: 5 Jul 1994 15:03:08 GMT Message-Id: <2vbsnc$pfu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> References: <2us3n1$gv1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> pcfong@hkusub ([ Malboro || PC ] 8D) writes: >James W Gourgoutis (skoop+@pitt.edu) wrote: >: I was wondering if there was any way of getting around the default >: function of saving a copy of outgoing mail to the folder "sent-mail". >: Ideally, I'd like to be prompted at the end of each outgoing message, >: asking if I would like to save the message or not. > > I can suggest a clumsy way to tackle your problem. You could >delete your default sent-mail folder everytime you start PINE, like >`alias pine "rm -f ~/mail/sent-mail;pine"'. Anybody know a better way >round this? The correct way to do this is to, in your .pinerc, specify "" as the folder to save to. Another way is to specify /dev/null as the folder to receive sent-mail. The original suggestion would work a little nicer if you remove the folder after you run pine. That way it will be deleted as very soon after created, and will never be seen. -- Matt Hewn -- Information is not knowledge; knowledge is not wisdom; wisdom is not truth. Truth is absolute. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 08:56:20 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19528; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:56:20 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08871; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:41:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from pilot.njin.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08865; Tue, 5 Jul 94 08:41:20 -0700 Received: by pilot.njin.net (5.59/SMI4.0/RU1.5/3.08) id AA29259; Tue, 5 Jul 94 11:41:13 EDT Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 11:41:10 -0400 (EDT) From: "Richard C. Gaine" Subject: pine and name server To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2vbn8s$hl3@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have a pine question. What other type of question would I mail to this list? When our primary name server goes down it takes pine such a long time to execute. Why is this, and is there a way to correct it? We have ping using an smtp server, but even though the server name is in our /etc/hosts file and if we usent e ip address it still takes pine much to long to load if our name server is down. Rick Gaine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 09:46:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22122; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:46:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10203; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:28:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10197; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:28:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLD2g-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: NFS mounting /usr/mail on hp Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 08:51:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vbn8s$hl3@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> If you manually invoke rimapd (e.g. "rsh servername /etc/rimapd") the problem is often readily apparent... Using rimap, inetd is completely out of the picture, so the inetd.conf setting does not matter in that case. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Jul 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: > : David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: > : : Actually, an NFS mounted /usr/mail is a sure source of problems. We > : : strongly recommend using IMAP for remote folder access and especially for > : : remote INBOX access. The usual source of lock related hangs is a stuck > : : rpc.lockd on the server... > : : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > : : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > > Thanks for the information. You might want to change the wording in the > documentation (pine technical notes), which implies that Pine works > fairly well over NFS mounts is no other mail readers are in use. > > I think imap would be a better way for me to do this-- but I have not > been able to figure out exactly how to set up rimap to eliminate the need > for entering passwords. > > Assuming my hosts and hosts.equiv'ed, and I have a link between imapd and > /etc/rimapd, what else do I need to do? I pointed inetd.conf at the link, > but it still asked for passwords. > > Thanks again for your help. > > Noel > > -- > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 10:07:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22890; Tue, 5 Jul 94 10:07:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21988; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:52:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21980; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:52:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLDPx-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: MIME.. Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 08:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vavcj$q4k@senior.nectec.or.th> Pine supports MIME at something better than the "minimal conformance" level, but not everything in the protocol is fully supported. If you are going to be generating your own MIME, I would suggest studying appendices A and B of RFC1521.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Jul 1994, Kaiwan Hongladaromp wrote: > > HI... > > After reading amazing thing about MIME and knowing that pine is one > of mail user agent that support MIME extension, I wonder if it support > the whole set of MIME.. > > I've try to make up header intend to have Pine do anon-ftp for me but > so far it fails me (or I fail pine?). It is probably my lack of correct > understanding of MIME syntax that fail my experimental. Anyhow I want > to make sure that pine is capable of what I've tried to prove it have. > Oh FYI, the current version of pine is 3.87. > > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > __ __ _ > / //_/__ _(_) _____ ____ > / ,< / _ `/ / |/|/ / _ `/ _ \ > /_/|_|\_,_/_/|__,__/\_,_/_//_/ > __ __ __ __ > / /_/ /__ ___ ___ _/ /__ ____/ /__ ________ __ _ ___ > / __ / _ \/ _ \/ _ `/ / _ `/ _ / _ `/ __/ _ \/ ' \/ _ \ > /_/ /_/\___/_//_/\_, /_/\_,_/\_,_/\_,_/_/ \___/_/_/_/ .__/ > /___/ /_/ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 10:07:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22921; Tue, 5 Jul 94 10:07:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22038; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:54:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22030; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:54:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLDSE-00000DC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Process OUTGOING Mail Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 09:06:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vblu6$qv0@news.cs.tu-berlin.de> This will be available in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 5 Jul 1994, Helmut Oertel wrote: > Hi, > > i am a new user to pine - I now know how to filter incoming mail into different > folders, but is this possible with outgoing mail too, so that when I send > mail to a specific person (or group), it is also copied into a predefined > folder automatically? > > WWW > (O O) > --oOO--(_)--OOo-------- > Helmut Oertel | Technical University of Berlin, Germany > E-mail: oertelh@cs.tu-berlin.de | NeXT-Mail: oertcaii@w271zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de > Compuserve: 100326,41 | WWW: http://www.cs.tu-berlin.de/~oertelh > Tel.: +49-30-304 33 52 | FAX : +49-30-305 90 89 > > -- > WWW > (O O) > --oOO--(_)--OOo-------- > Helmut Oertel | Technical University of Berlin, Germany > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 10:11:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23075; Tue, 5 Jul 94 10:11:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22024; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:53:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22018; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:53:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLDQ0-00000BC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Can I mark a message NOT-read? Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 08:58:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2uv8ia$3s6@linda.teleport.com> There will be in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 30 Jun 1994, Byron Lunz wrote: > Is there a way in Unix Pine to mark a message as not read, after you've > actually read it? I usually read mail with Pine in a vt100 window, but > occasionally I'd like to receive certain messages via Eudora. Once I > read the message with Pine, however, Eudora won't recogize it as new mail > and retrieve it. > > Thanks for any advice... > -- > Byron byronl@teleport.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 12:09:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28538; Tue, 5 Jul 94 12:09:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24734; Tue, 5 Jul 94 11:55:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24728; Tue, 5 Jul 94 11:55:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLFIW-00000BC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 11:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: pine and name server Date: 5 Jul 1994 10:37:54 -0700 Message-Id: <2vc5pi$2fr@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <2vbn8s$hl3@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> In article , Richard C. Gaine wrote: : : When our primary name server goes down it takes pine such a long :time to execute. Why is this, and is there a way to correct it? It looks like pine at startup tries to get the hostname of the machine that it is executing on (i.e., calls gethostname() on a SunOS machine, calls systeminfo(SI_HOSTNAME) on a Solaris 2.3 machine). If your local system is configured to look at the DNS instead of /etc/hosts for the hostname info and you have multiple nameservers specified in your /etc/resolv.conf, then if the first nameserver listed doesn't respond, the resolver routines will wait a while before trying the next nameserver listed. So what you're probably seeing at startup is the lag time before the resolver routines give up on the first nameserver and move on to the next one. You could avoid that by having your resolver routines look in /etc/hosts before consulting the DNS (though that's a debatable strategy in general). From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 13:08:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02411; Tue, 5 Jul 94 13:08:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25849; Tue, 5 Jul 94 12:49:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from atc.boeing.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25843; Tue, 5 Jul 94 12:49:31 -0700 Received: by atc.boeing.com (5.57) id AA04191; Tue, 5 Jul 94 12:51:25 -0700 Received: from plato.hv.boeing.com by splinter.boeing.com with SMTP (16.6/16.2) id AA28444; Tue, 5 Jul 94 12:49:40 -0700 Received: by plato.hv.boeing.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA19338; Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:37:45 -0500 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 14:37:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "Gary W. Marine" Subject: Pine on Intergraph running Sys5r3 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am looking for someone who has compiled Pine on an Intergraph system running sVr3, or another sVr3 system. Please respond to marineg@hsvaic.hv.boeing.com Thanks, Gary Marine From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 14:57:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07094; Tue, 5 Jul 94 14:57:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17762; Tue, 5 Jul 94 14:46:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> Received: from saphir.ulaval.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17756; Tue, 5 Jul 94 14:46:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 17:51:35 -0400 (EDT) From: 2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA Message-Id: <940705175135.25818680@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" SIGNOFF PINE-INFO From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 16:51:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11709; Tue, 5 Jul 94 16:51:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01503; Tue, 5 Jul 94 16:39:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01497; Tue, 5 Jul 94 16:39:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLJkW-00000JC; Tue, 5 Jul 94 16:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Enhancement suggestion Date: Tue, 5 Jul 1994 15:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: This is now on the todo list. I don't know if it will be in 3.90 yet... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 4 Jul 1994, Mike Roch wrote: > Pine is very good about status messages telling users what it's up to. > One place where a message would be useful is when calling up an external > editor. On slow systems it can take 10-20 seconds between hitting the key > sequence and anything (apparently) happening. Just a "Invoking > alternative editor - please wait" would do. > > Mike > > ============================================================================== > Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 > The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 19:40:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16805; Tue, 5 Jul 94 19:40:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23436; Tue, 5 Jul 94 19:26:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23430; Tue, 5 Jul 94 19:26:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLMN3-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 19:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) Subject: Rich Headers Date: 5 Jul 1994 22:05:14 -0400 Message-Id: <2vd3gq$h8d@panix2.panix.com> I know that typing ^R gives you Pine's "rich" header. Is there a way to get Pine to always display the rich header by default? -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mitch Regenbogen | | | mreg@panix.com | "I like to watch." --Chauncey Gardner | | Brooklyn, New York | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 20:31:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17638; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:31:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05212; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:20:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05206; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:19:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLNFt-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: physmfr@phys.canterbury.ac.nz (Mike Reid ) Subject: Scrolling, not redrawing, in pico Date: 6 Jul 1994 02:56:54 GMT Message-Id: <2vd6hm$ofv@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> We recently upgraded to Pine 3.89 and Pico 2.3, on Sun (Solaris). I now have problems on a slow modem line, because I can't figure out how to persuade pico to scroll the screen, rather than redrawing all the characters. This is VERY slow and tedious at 2400 baud. With the old version, I could do an: stty 2400 and pico would realize that the line was slow, and scroll. That no longer appears to work. Any suggestions? Mike -- Dr. Michael F. Reid, M.Reid@phys.canterbury.ac.nz Physics and Astronomy, University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand. Phone: + 64 3 364 2548 Fax: + 64 3 364 2469 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 20:56:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18068; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:56:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05611; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:45:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05605; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:45:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLNaX-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 20:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: josephl@clark.net (Joseph A. Liu) Subject: FTP sites for Pine / Pico Date: 6 Jul 1994 03:22:27 GMT Message-Id: <2vd81j$cul@clarknet.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Plesae tell me where the ftp sites for PC Pine / Pico software is. I thank you all very much. Joe -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Liu Capital Associates, Inc., Hunt Valley, MD USA josephl@clark.net From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 5 21:42:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18869; Tue, 5 Jul 94 21:42:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25196; Tue, 5 Jul 94 21:32:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from csl3su39.cs.ust.hk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25178; Tue, 5 Jul 94 21:32:20 -0700 Received: by csl3su39.cs.ust.hk (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15491; Wed, 6 Jul 94 12:31:51 HKT Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:31:51 +0800 (HKT) From: Yeung Chee Wai Subject: Re: FTP sites for Pine / Pico To: "Joseph A. Liu" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Yeung Chee Wai In-Reply-To: <2vd81j$cul@clarknet.clark.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Joseph A. Liu wrote: > Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 11:22:27 +0800 > From: Joseph A. Liu > To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: FTP sites for Pine / Pico > > Plesae tell me where the ftp sites for PC Pine / Pico software is. > > I thank you all very much. > > Joe > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Joseph Liu Capital Associates, Inc., Hunt Valley, MD USA josephl@clark.net > > I believe you can always find pine under ftp.cac.washington.edu:/mail. This is the primary distribution site of pine. Chee Wai ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- _--_|\ Yeung Chee Wai Technician / \ Department of Computer Science Room: 4203 \_.--._* Hong Kong University of Science and Phone: +85 2 358 7005 v Technology Fax: +85 2 358 1477 Clear Water Bay, Kowloon, Hong Kong Email: cheewai@cs.ust.hk ^^^^^^^^ cheewai@HK.Super.NET This is Australia, Not HK :-) "How to draw a dotted-line?" "Ans: Pick up a pencil!" "COBOL is just a bug with syntax." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 00:04:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21481; Wed, 6 Jul 94 00:04:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08162; Tue, 5 Jul 94 23:54:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08156; Tue, 5 Jul 94 23:54:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLQcM-000005C; Tue, 5 Jul 94 23:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mattm@netcom.com (Matthew Mannhardt) Subject: Help; Errors on Solaris 2.3 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 06:22:37 GMT Compiles with warnings using gcc (i.e) ... > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' > adrbklib.c: In function `adrbk_open': > adrbklib.c:360: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > adrbklib.c:376: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > adrbklib.c: In function `sort_addr_list': > adrbklib.c:469: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > /usr/local/bin/gcc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -ansi -DANSI -c args.c -o args.o > In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:41, > from headers.h:78, > from args.c:59: > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' ... and executable produces annoying errors; from .pine-debug1: ... > About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date ... Anybody else out there running "pine" on Solaris 2.3? -Matt Mannhardt From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 03:27:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25660; Wed, 6 Jul 94 03:27:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00161; Wed, 6 Jul 94 03:15:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00155; Wed, 6 Jul 94 03:15:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLTgP-00000BC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 02:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Martinez Subject: Add field to Pine header? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 01:50:17 GMT Is there any way to add a " Reply to: " field to Pine when composing e-mail? Have I overlooked something obvious? Those of us who work behind firewalls could find this extremely useful! Thanks, Kevin Martinez lps@rahul.net -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Kevin Martinez lps@rahul.net Member of the Julie Kangas Fan Club Work: 1 800 50 SATAN Home: 1 510 676 1111 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 05:08:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29095; Wed, 6 Jul 94 05:08:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12669; Wed, 6 Jul 94 04:58:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from cc.nsysu.edu.tw by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12655; Wed, 6 Jul 94 04:58:13 -0700 Received: from localhost (hsu@localhost) by cc.nsysu.edu.tw (8.6.4/8.6.4) id TAA08443; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 19:54:14 +0800 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 19:53:19 +0800 (CST) From: Hsu Li-Cheng Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe ======================================================================== Li-Cheng Hsu | Network Division | Computer Center | E-mail : hsu@cc.nsysu.edu.tw National Sun Yat-Sen University | Phone: 886-7-5316171 ext 2866 Kaohsiung,Taiwan,Rep. of China | Fax : 886-7-5614280 ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 07:13:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02675; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:13:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03819; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:00:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from PACS01.SUNBELT.NET by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03813; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:00:32 -0700 Received: from ptech.com (NGATE.PTECH.COM) by SUNBELT.NET (PMDF V4.3-6 #4800) id <01HEDRJWUZVK001OKB@SUNBELT.NET>; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 10:00:23 EST Received: by ptech.com; id AA26554; Wed, 6 Jul 94 09:58:47 EDT Received: by sierra.ptech.com (5.0/SMI-SVR4) id AA01536; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 10:02:33 +0500 Date: Wed, 06 Jul 1994 10:02:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Jason Jones Subject: hard code reply-to To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: jnb@ptech.com Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 445 Is there any way to hard-code the reply-to field? I'm using Unix Pine 3.89. Thanks in advance for you help. -Jason -- _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Jason Jones - jej@ptech.com _/ _/ _/ _/ Systems Engineer _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ Piedmont Technology Group, Inc. _/ _/ _/ _/ 830 Tyvola Rd - Charlotte NC - 28217 _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ phone 704.523.2410 x130 fax 704.523.7764 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 07:28:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03141; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:28:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14985; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:17:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14979; Wed, 6 Jul 94 07:17:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLXSV-00000DC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 06:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bgmoore@crash.cts.com (Bryan Moore) Subject: Re: How to edit msgs B4 saving to folder? Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 12:12:19 GMT Message-Id: References: In David L Miller writes: >On 4 Jul 1994, Larry Buickel wrote: >> Before I save a message to a folder, I'd like to prune some lines and >> in order to reduce file space usage. Is there anyway to edit a >> message from my INBOX before I save it to a folder? Thanks ... >This has been proposed, but is not yet implemented. I sometimes forward the message to myself which does the trick, but for only pruning a line or two the extra header it adds on is not worth it, so I only do it for much longer messages I want to keep pieces of. Regards, Bryan Moore bgmoore@cts.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 11:02:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14908; Wed, 6 Jul 94 11:02:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09437; Wed, 6 Jul 94 10:47:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09431; Wed, 6 Jul 94 10:47:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLajL-00000NC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 10:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Reply-To: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 10:03:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: As stated previously, this will be available in Pine 3.90, which should be available in a few weeks. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Kevin Martinez wrote: > Is there any way to add a " Reply to: " field to Pine when composing > e-mail? Have I overlooked something obvious? > > Those of us who work behind firewalls could find this extremely useful! > > Thanks, > > Kevin Martinez > lps@rahul.net > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Kevin Martinez lps@rahul.net Member of the Julie Kangas Fan Club > Work: 1 800 50 SATAN Home: 1 510 676 1111 > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Jason Jones wrote: > Is there any way to hard-code the reply-to field? I'm using Unix Pine > 3.89. Thanks in advance for you help. > > -Jason > > -- > _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ Jason Jones - jej@ptech.com > _/ _/ _/ _/ Systems Engineer > _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/_/ Piedmont Technology Group, Inc. > _/ _/ _/ _/ 830 Tyvola Rd - Charlotte NC - 28217 > _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ phone 704.523.2410 x130 fax 704.523.7764 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 11:26:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16411; Wed, 6 Jul 94 11:26:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10236; Wed, 6 Jul 94 11:17:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10230; Wed, 6 Jul 94 11:16:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLazf-00000QC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 10:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dudek@spot.Colorado.EDU (Heidi Dudek) Subject: Enhancement suggestion: multiple addressbooks Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 16:52:39 GMT We have recently moved about 2000 users from VMS to Unix, and they are using pine. They would like to be able to maintain a personal addressbook as well as a group address book for a group of users. It would be great if there was some way to specify 2 files for the addressbook in the .pinerc. We don't care too much about editing these files (i.e. what happens when you type A to get to the addressbook?) but it would be best if A would allow the user to edit their personal addressbook (.addressbook) and then the person keeping the group file could just edit it outside of pine. Is this a possibility? -- Heidi Dudek Heidi.Dudek@Colorado.EDU Computing & Network Services University of Colorado at Boulder -- Heidi Dudek Heidi.Dudek@Colorado.EDU Computing & Network Services 492-0764 University of Colorado at Boulder From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 13:09:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20986; Wed, 6 Jul 94 13:09:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12255; Wed, 6 Jul 94 12:55:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12249; Wed, 6 Jul 94 12:55:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLcGZ-00001HC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 12:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Enhancement suggestion: multiple addressbooks Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 11:46:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will support multiple addressbooks. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Heidi Dudek wrote: > We have recently moved about 2000 users from VMS to Unix, and they are > using pine. They would like to be able to maintain a personal addressbook > as well as a group address book for a group of users. It would be great > if there was some way to specify 2 files for the addressbook in the .pinerc. > We don't care too much about editing these files (i.e. what happens when > you type A to get to the addressbook?) but it would be best if A would allow > the user to edit their personal addressbook (.addressbook) and then the > person keeping the group file could just edit it outside of pine. > > Is this a possibility? > > -- > Heidi Dudek Heidi.Dudek@Colorado.EDU > Computing & Network Services > University of Colorado at Boulder > -- > Heidi Dudek Heidi.Dudek@Colorado.EDU > Computing & Network Services 492-0764 > University of Colorado at Boulder > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 14:19:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23640; Wed, 6 Jul 94 14:19:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24375; Wed, 6 Jul 94 14:09:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24369; Wed, 6 Jul 94 14:09:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLd7V-00001oC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 12:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: lyn6@midway.uchicago.edu (Caitrin Lynch) Subject: Pine Folders -> Eudora (PC) mailboxes Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 15:35:49 Message-Id: How can I transform my pine folders into something readable Eudora (PC). Thanks, Nick From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 15:32:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26645; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:32:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25986; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:20:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25980; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:20:50 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLf3L-00000HC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: digior+@pitt.edu (Carl J Digiorgio) Subject: FTP site for Pico Date: 6 Jul 1994 21:11:59 GMT Message-Id: <2vf6mv$gfn@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> The subject line says it all. My system only has emacs, and I am sick of that. I'd like to get pico and see if I can install it. If anybody can tell me where I can find it, please let me know. Thank you. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / _ _/ /_ _/ / \ Carl J. DiGiorgio "The reward for work well / /_ _/ / / / / cdi@med.pitt.edu done is the opportunity /_ _ / /_ _/ /_ _/ digior+@pitt.edu to do more" - Jonas Salk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 15:32:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26680; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:32:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15708; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:19:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15702; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:19:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLeyF-00000DC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 14:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Re: Pine Folders -> Eudora (PC) mailboxes Date: 6 Jul 1994 21:08:42 GMT Message-Id: <2vf6gq$aet@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: Caitrin Lynch (lyn6@midway.uchicago.edu) wrote: : How can I transform my pine folders into something readable Eudora (PC). The ipop3d server that somes with the imap stuff availalable on the ftp archive ftp.cac.washington.edu allows pop clients to access imap services, I believe. If I'm right, you could do something like set your pop server to point to the ipop3d server, and then use the proper imap inbox name for the address portion. The man page says: IPOP2d and IPOP3d are servers which support the POP2 and POP3 remote mail access protocols respectively. IPOP2d and IPOP3d can also be used by POP2 and POP3 clients to access mailboxes on IMAP servers by specifying a login user name in the form : e.g., SERVER.WASHINGTON.EDU:SMITH. -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 15:52:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27364; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:52:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16214; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:40:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16208; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:40:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLfKm-00000DC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: erdely@wam.umd.edu (Micos Express) Subject: Re: FTP site for Pico Message-Id: <2vfa0i$3l9@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> Date: 6 Jul 94 22:08:18 GMT References: <2vf6mv$gfn@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> pine.cac.washington.edu However, I think that pico is included with pine. Look for DLM's posts and send email to his address asking him if you can get it separately. -- `'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`' Michael W. Erdely /| /| | | / |~~~ Phi Sigma Kappa / | / | | |< |- erdely@wam.umd.edu / |/ | | | \ |___ '`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'`'` From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 16:37:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29713; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:37:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27348; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:18:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27342; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:18:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLfvP-00000PC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 15:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: FTP site for Pico Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 15:05:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vf6mv$gfn@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Pine and Pico are available from ftp.cac.washington.edu. Pico sources are included in the Pine source distribution (mail/pine.tar.Z) or there are a few pre-compiled executables in the mail/unix-bin directory. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 6 Jul 1994, Carl J Digiorgio wrote: > The subject line says it all. My system only has emacs, and I am sick of > that. I'd like to get pico and see if I can install it. If anybody can > tell me where I can find it, please let me know. Thank you. > > -- > _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ > / _ _/ /_ _/ / \ Carl J. DiGiorgio "The reward for work well > / /_ _/ / / / / cdi@med.pitt.edu done is the opportunity > /_ _ / /_ _/ /_ _/ digior+@pitt.edu to do more" - Jonas Salk > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 16:55:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00384; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:55:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27998; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:44:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27992; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:44:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLgHy-00000gC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 16:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hribnak@nucleus.com (Jim Hribnak) Subject: Pine and Metamail Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:22:45 GMT How does one go about installing Metamail with PINE? Jim Jim Hribnak Nucleus Information Service VP Operations, Atomic Data Communications 55 Lines (403)531-9353 (2400) ----------------------------------------- (403)531-9366 (19200) hribnak@nucleus.com (403)249-9009 (voice) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 18:13:18 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03821; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:13:18 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29650; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:03:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29644; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:03:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLhYy-00000gC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 17:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: colin@Malcolm.camosun.bc.ca (Colin Fletcher) Subject: Pine Manual? Message-Id: Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 23:35:41 GMT I am looking for a pine 3.89 manual, Can someone please point me to the ftp site... I tried ftp.cac.washington.edu, but with no luck... thanx in advance, - - Colin Fletcher ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GEEK CODE: GCS d-- -p+ c++++ l+++ u++ eK-12 m+ s+/- !n h--- f+ g+++ w+++ t- r-- y+ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 18:27:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04101; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:27:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29868; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:17:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29862; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:17:32 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04452; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:17:25 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 18:17:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Noel Hunter Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Folders -> Eudora (PC) mailboxes In-Reply-To: <2vf6gq$aet@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Noel, I'm guessing that Caitrin was interested in making *saved message* folders accessible to PC-Eudora, rather than simply sharing a common INBOX. As far as I know, PC-Eudora uses the Bky Unix "mbox" format, which is also what Pine uses by default. So it *should* be possible to transfer Unix Pine folders to your PC and access them as local folders in Eudora... but I haven't tried this myself. I'm guessing you want to transfer in "ascii" mode in order to get newline conversion. POP3 does not support access to arbitrary remote folders, only the inbox, so using the ipop3d as a "POP-to-IMAP gateway" will probably not help in this case. For those who are interested in co-existence of IMAP and POP clients with respect to INBOX access: 1. You can run a POP server on the same machine acting as your IMAP server. The ipop3d Noel mentions would be a good choice, since it uses the same locking discipline as imapd. (I believe the CMU IMAP server also has a companion POP server available.) 2. If both POP and IMAP servers exist, but are on different machines, you could replace the existing POP server with ipop3d, which is capable of operating as a gateway to a different IMAP server for POP clients, as well as providing normal POP access to INBOXes stored on the same machine. 3. If you can't touch the existing servers, but have root access to yet another Unix box, you could run ipop3d on it, and have it serve purely as a POP gateway to an existing IMAP server. Note that the gateway works best if you don't leave mail on the server. If you tell Eudora to leave mail on the server, it will keep fetching the same messages over and over when you check for new mail. This is probably fixable, but we haven't had time to track down the incompatibilty. -teg On 6 Jul 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: > Caitrin Lynch (lyn6@midway.uchicago.edu) wrote: > > : How can I transform my pine folders into something readable Eudora (PC). > > The ipop3d server that somes with the imap stuff availalable on the ftp > archive ftp.cac.washington.edu allows pop clients to access imap services, > I believe. If I'm right, you could do something like set your pop > server to point to the ipop3d server, and then use the proper imap inbox > name for the address portion. The man page says: > > IPOP2d and IPOP3d are servers which support the POP2 and POP3 remote > mail access protocols respectively. IPOP2d and IPOP3d can also be > used by POP2 and POP3 clients to access mailboxes on IMAP servers by > specifying a login user name in the form : e.g., > SERVER.WASHINGTON.EDU:SMITH. > > -- > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 19:01:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04921; Wed, 6 Jul 94 19:01:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20418; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:51:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20412; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:51:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLiJi-00000oC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 18:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ochand70@ursa.calvin.edu (Omi Chandiramani) Subject: Incoming message: date munged Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 01:18:11 GMT I was reading through/deleting a backlog of mail since I have been on holiday for a while. So I had finally reached yesterdays mail when pine beeped "New mail! from blah hlah...." So I wento back into the index from the view message screen and surprsingly the message seemed like it had arrived on June 5 instead of June 6 when it actually came in. The header follows.. Return-Path: Received: from mail02.prod.aol.net by Calvin.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA15557; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:49:51 EDT Received: by mail02.prod.aol.net (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA12723; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 20:49:52 -0400 From: JoeSmokin@aol.com X-Mailer: America Online Mailer Sender: "JoeSmokin" Message-Id: <9407050808.tn348241@aol.com> To: ochand70@ursa.Calvin.EDU Date: Tue, 05 Jul 94 08:08:04 EDT Subject: lets get together! The guys sent it to me a little past 8pm on June 6, no doubt about that. This isnt a big deal but just an FYI, just in case the developers would liek to know. Thanks for the great job.. -- Omi Chandiramani ochand70@calvin.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 20:01:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06134; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:01:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21305; Wed, 6 Jul 94 19:52:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> Received: from saphir.ulaval.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21299; Wed, 6 Jul 94 19:52:20 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:51:14 -0400 (EDT) From: 2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA Message-Id: <940706225114.2581a151@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" SIGNOFF PINE-INFO From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 20:32:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06640; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:32:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21729; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:21:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> Received: from saphir.ulaval.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21723; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:21:36 -0700 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 23:20:32 -0400 (EDT) From: 2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA Message-Id: <940706232032.2581a151@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" UNSUBSCRIBE YANG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 22:43:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09050; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:43:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03738; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:36:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03732; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:36:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLlpj-00001GC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Help; Errors on Solaris 2.3 Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I am pretty sure that the compiler warnings and the log messages are in no way related. It looks like you have some messages in your INBOX that have a date field that Pine does not understand. If you send a copy of the messages in question to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu we will try to determine why they are not being recognized. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Matthew Mannhardt wrote: > Compiles with warnings using gcc (i.e) > ... > > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' > > adrbklib.c: In function `adrbk_open': > > adrbklib.c:360: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > > adrbklib.c:376: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > > adrbklib.c: In function `sort_addr_list': > > adrbklib.c:469: warning: passing arg 4 of `qsort' from incompatible pointer type > > /usr/local/bin/gcc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -ansi -DANSI -c args.c -o args.o > > In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:41, > > from headers.h:78, > > from args.c:59: > > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:30: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' > > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:32: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcpy' > > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:38: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcmp' > > /opt/gnu/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2/2.5.6/include/string.h:39: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strcmp' > ... > > > > and executable produces annoying errors; from .pine-debug1: > ... > > About to open folder "INBOX" inbox: "INBOX" > > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date > > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date > > IMAP 20:42 7/5 mm_log warn: Unparsable date > ... > > Anybody else out there running "pine" on Solaris 2.3? > > -Matt Mannhardt > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 22:43:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09052; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:43:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03756; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:37:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03740; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:36:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLlss-00001KC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and Metamail Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:10:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.90 will include a subset of metamail built-in.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 6 Jul 1994, Jim Hribnak wrote: > > > How does one go about installing Metamail with PINE? > > > Jim > > Jim Hribnak Nucleus Information Service > VP Operations, Atomic Data Communications 55 Lines (403)531-9353 (2400) > ----------------------------------------- (403)531-9366 (19200) > hribnak@nucleus.com (403)249-9009 (voice) > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 22:46:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09140; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:46:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23642; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:37:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23635; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:37:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLlt0-00001LC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Incoming message: date munged Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:15:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: According to the message headers, the message was written at a little past 8 AM, July 5, but did not leave America Online until almost 9 PM on July 6 (almost 37 hour delay!) Pine correctly displayed the date from the Date: header in the message... --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Omi Chandiramani wrote: > I was reading through/deleting a backlog of mail since I have been on > holiday for a while. So I had finally reached yesterdays mail when > pine beeped "New mail! from blah hlah...." So I wento back into the > index from the view message screen and surprsingly the message seemed > like it had arrived on June 5 instead of June 6 when it actually came > in. The header follows.. > > Return-Path: > Received: from mail02.prod.aol.net by Calvin.EDU (4.1/SMI-4.1) > id AA15557; Wed, 6 Jul 94 20:49:51 EDT > Received: by mail02.prod.aol.net > (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA12723; Wed, 6 Jul 1994 20:49:52 -0400 > From: JoeSmokin@aol.com > X-Mailer: America Online Mailer > Sender: "JoeSmokin" > Message-Id: <9407050808.tn348241@aol.com> > To: ochand70@ursa.Calvin.EDU > Date: Tue, 05 Jul 94 08:08:04 EDT > Subject: lets get together! > > The guys sent it to me a little past 8pm on June 6, no doubt about > that. > > This isnt a big deal but just an FYI, just in case the developers > would liek to know. > > Thanks for the great job.. > > -- > Omi Chandiramani > ochand70@calvin.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 6 22:46:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09169; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:46:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23621; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:36:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23607; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:36:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLlsr-00001JC; Wed, 6 Jul 94 22:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: FTP site for Pico Date: Wed, 6 Jul 1994 22:09:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vfa0i$3l9@cville-srv.wam.umd.edu> On 6 Jul 1994, Micos Express wrote: > However, I think that pico is included with pine. Look for DLM's posts > and send email to his address asking him if you can get it separately. > I prefer that this type of request be directed to comp.mail.pine or pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu. I recieve _alot_ of mail andit is much easier for me if all of the Pine-related mail comes in on the pine lists... Thanks! --DLM From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 08:13:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22015; Thu, 7 Jul 94 08:13:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12211; Thu, 7 Jul 94 07:57:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aaron.music.qc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12203; Thu, 7 Jul 94 07:57:54 -0700 Received: from igor by aaron.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA01356; Thu, 7 Jul 94 10:43:29 -0500 Received: by igor.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0S) id AA03660; Thu, 7 Jul 94 10:57:52 -0400 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 10:57:52 -0400 From: David Richards Message-Id: <9407071457.AA03660@igor.music.qc.edu> To: digior+@pitt.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2vf6mv$gfn@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> (digior+@pitt.edu) Subject: Re: FTP site for Pico >>>>> "Carl" == Carl J Digiorgio writes: Carl> The subject line says it all. My system only has emacs, and Carl> I am sick of that. I'd like to get pico and see if I can Carl> install it. If anybody can tell me where I can find it, Carl> please let me know. Thank you. Hello Carl - try ftp.cac.washington.edu in /mail Pick up pine which includes pico. Dave ========================================== David Richards The Aaron Copland School of Music at Queens College E-mail: richards@aaron.music.qc.edu Voice : 1-(718)-997-3874 ========================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 08:42:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22910; Thu, 7 Jul 94 08:42:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12793; Thu, 7 Jul 94 08:27:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12787; Thu, 7 Jul 94 08:27:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLv6l-00000DC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 08:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Problems with Compiling Pine on UNIXWARE (fwd) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 08:04:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 7 Jul 94 11:00:02 GMT From:uucp@br549.attmail.com To: dlm@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problems with Compiling Pine on UNIXWARE Thanks for your response. Is there anyone you know of who could help me figure out the following error messages when I type "build sv4" ????? "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: redeclaration of tm Stop. "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: redeclaration of tm Stop. Stop. ld libpico.a: can't find library libtermlib.a Stop. "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: redeclaration of tm "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: redeclaration of tm Stop. size: bin/pine: cannot open size: bin/mtest: cannot open size: bin/imapd: cannot open size: bin/pico: cannot open UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: (struct) tag redeclared: tm UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: gmtime UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: localtime Stop. UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: (struct) tag redeclared: tm UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: gmtime UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: localtime Stop. Stop. UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(basic.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(bind.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(composer.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(display.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(file.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(fileio.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(line.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(osdep.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(pico.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(random.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(region.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(search.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(spell.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(tinfo.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(window.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(word.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(attach.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(browse.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF UX:ld: WARNING: libpico.a(buffer.o): notice: internal conversion of COFF file to ELF Undefined first referenced symbol in file setupterm libpico.a(tinfo.o) tigetstr libpico.a(tinfo.o) UX:ld: ERROR: pico: fatal error: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to pico Stop. UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/stdlib.h", line 71: identifier redeclared: system UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 10: (struct) tag redeclared: tm UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: gmtime UX:acomp: ERROR: "/usr/include/time.h", line 21: identifier redeclared: localtime Stop. size: bin/pine: cannot open size: bin/mtest: cannot open size: bin/imapd: cannot open size: bin/pico: cannot open -- The pine program appears to be just the program I was looking for to manage my mail. If you know of an ELF 32-bit LSB executable 80386 Version 1 of Pine, that will work fine also .... Thanks!!! | | `. | .' `. .---. .' .~ ~. / O O \ -- -- -- ( ) -- -- -- \ `-' / ~. .~ .' ~---~ `. .' | `. | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 09:58:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27387; Thu, 7 Jul 94 09:58:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14824; Thu, 7 Jul 94 09:46:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14814; Thu, 7 Jul 94 09:46:10 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 11:54:53 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: FTP site for Pico To: Pine Info Cc: "Robert A. Hayden" In-Reply-To: <9407071457.AA03660@igor.music.qc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I think this does show, though, that perhaps pico should be packaged and available seperately as well as with pine. I know a couple of years ago I wanted to install pico and I didn't know it came with pine, and I spend many hour searching archie logs looking for it before someone told me I was looking in the wrong place. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 12:09:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03453; Thu, 7 Jul 94 12:09:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17874; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:52:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17868; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:52:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLyJ5-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fool@chopin.udel.edu (Gwendolyn El Eckman) Subject: Blind carbon copy Date: 7 Jul 1994 13:57:17 -0400 Message-Id: <2vhflt$6dl@chopin.udel.edu> I was wondering how to create a bcc in composing a message. I have a huge mailing list (50+) that creates an enormous header for the readers. I was wondering if I could blind carbon copy the list. Any help is appreciated. Gwen -- ...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...--- - gwen eckman wake up in the rain . - fool@chopin.udel.edu eckman@freezer.cns.udel.edu . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 12:12:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03564; Thu, 7 Jul 94 12:12:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17904; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:54:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17898; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:53:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLyBr-000005C; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 13:24:21 EDT Message-Id: <94188.132421ROSE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Subject: Deleting attchmnt from header How do I remove the attchmnt line from the header? I've looked at the .pinerc file but I can't seem to find the appropriate setting. BTW I'm using version 3.89. Thanks, Rose rose@qucdn.queensu.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 13:22:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07760; Thu, 7 Jul 94 13:22:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19896; Thu, 7 Jul 94 13:07:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19890; Thu, 7 Jul 94 13:07:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qLzAZ-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 12:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Deleting attchmnt from header Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 11:34:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <94188.132421ROSE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Pine 3.89 does not have a way to hide the Attchmnt: line. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Jul 1994 ROSE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA wrote: > How do I remove the attchmnt line from the header? I've looked at the > .pinerc file but I can't seem to find the appropriate setting. BTW I'm > using version 3.89. > > > Thanks, > Rose > rose@qucdn.queensu.ca > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 15:48:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13744; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:48:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13274; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:38:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from soda.Berkeley.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13268; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:38:02 -0700 Received: (hkuo@localhost) by soda.berkeley.edu (8.6.9/PHILMAIL-1.10) id PAA21535; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:37:52 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:37:47 -0700 (PDT) From: "Henry @(0-0)" Subject: Re: Deleting attchmnt from header To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Someone may ask this before: How can I use ^ (control-6), block, on a Mac? Thanks!! =Henry= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 15:58:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14026; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:58:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13531; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:49:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13525; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:49:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM1pO-00000XC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barenco@mildred.physics.ox.ac.uk (Adriano Barenco) Subject: Problems with pine and xbiff : detecting incoming mail Message-Id: <1994Jul4.123241.741@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 94 12:32:41 BST Hi everybody, I am a new pine user and I am quite happy with it. However I have a little problem : pine does not signal new incoming mail, it doesn't flash the screen, doen't beep, doesn't do anything... Is there a way around this ? When using pine from my workstation (Sparc under solaris 2.3), I thought of using xbiff simultaneously (xbiff just opens a little window with an icon that signals when new mail arrives); xbiff worked fine, but then I noticed that pine didn't manage to detect the new mail when I tried to open the folder INBOX. To read it I have to exit pine and enter it again. So the combination pine+xbiff is not really good... Has anyone a solution for this problem ? Thanks in advance Adriano Barenco -- ************************************************************************* * Adriano Barenco Phone : (0865) 272 333 * * University of Oxford Fax : (0865) 272 400 * * Clarendon Laboratory Email : a.barenco1@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Parks Road barenco@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Oxford OX1 3DR - U.K. * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 15:59:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14099; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:59:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13523; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:49:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13517; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:49:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM1op-00000WC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 15:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barenco@mildred.physics.ox.ac.uk (Adriano Barenco) Subject: Pine and xbiff Message-Id: <1994Jul4.121729.230@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 94 12:17:29 BST Hi to everybody, I am a new pine user and find it quite convenient, however I have a little problem: when I get new mail, pine does not signal it to me in any way (beep flash or any other things). So I tried to run xbiff in parallel (xbiff gives you a little postbox icon in your workspace that has a flag up when you have mail), xbiff works fine, but then when I wnat to open the INBOX folder, I can't find the new mail. To read it I have to quit and enter pine again. Is there a way around this ? Either get something else than xbiff, or have pine signal new incoming mail... Any help appreciated, Adriano Barenco -- ************************************************************************* * Adriano Barenco Phone : (0865) 272 333 * * University of Oxford Fax : (0865) 272 400 * * Clarendon Laboratory Email : a.barenco1@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Parks Road barenco@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Oxford OX1 3DR - U.K. * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 16:39:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15527; Thu, 7 Jul 94 16:39:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14455; Thu, 7 Jul 94 16:28:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14445; Thu, 7 Jul 94 16:28:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM2aH-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 16:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Problems with pine and xbiff : detecting incoming mail Date: 7 Jul 1994 15:10:44 -0700 Message-Id: <2vhuh4$ss@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <1994Jul4.123241.741@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> In article <1994Jul4.123241.741@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, Adriano Barenco wrote: :Hi everybody, : :I am a new pine user and I am quite happy with it. However I have a little :problem : pine does not signal new incoming mail, it doesn't flash the screen, :doen't beep, doesn't do anything... Is there a way around this ? : :When using pine from my workstation (Sparc under solaris 2.3), I thought of :using xbiff simultaneously (xbiff just opens a little window with an icon that :signals when new mail arrives); xbiff worked fine, but then I noticed that pine :didn't manage to detect the new mail when I tried to open the folder INBOX. :To read it I have to exit pine and enter it again. So the combination pine+xbiff :is not really good... : :Has anyone a solution for this problem ? Worked fine for me on my Solaris 2.3 workstation -- pine should indeed inform you of new mail, but it only checks every couple of minutes. You can force it to check _now_ by typing Control-L. So when I noticed xbiff's flag going up, I would type Control-L in the xterm I was running pine in to force pine to look for the new mail. (Then I got tired of xbiff and decided I really could wait a couple of minutes to find out I had new mail.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 17:22:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18456; Thu, 7 Jul 94 17:22:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25879; Thu, 7 Jul 94 17:13:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25873; Thu, 7 Jul 94 17:13:34 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 19:22:10 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: Blind carbon copy To: Gwendolyn El Eckman Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2vhflt$6dl@chopin.udel.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 7 Jul 1994, Gwendolyn El Eckman wrote: > I was wondering how to create a bcc in composing a message. > I have a huge mailing list (50+) that creates an enormous header > for the readers. I was wondering if I could blind carbon copy > the list. Any help is appreciated. Yes. Press ^R to enable rich headers while in the header section and then use your list alias in the Bcc: line. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 18:26:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19841; Thu, 7 Jul 94 18:26:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26875; Thu, 7 Jul 94 18:13:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26869; Thu, 7 Jul 94 18:13:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM4Fh-000005C; Thu, 7 Jul 94 17:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp@questor.org (Steve Pershing) Subject: Is it possible to set fg and bg colors on Pine? Message-Id: <80B5oc1w165w@questor.org> Date: Thu, 07 Jul 94 17:23:42 PDT I guess that says it all... perhaps there is something I missed in reading the help? Thanks in advance for any advice. --- Steve Pershing From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 19:08:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20953; Thu, 7 Jul 94 19:08:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27472; Thu, 7 Jul 94 18:56:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27466; Thu, 7 Jul 94 18:56:19 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA25882; Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:56:42 +0800 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 09:56:41 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Is it possible to set fg and bg colors on Pine? To: Steve Pershing Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <80B5oc1w165w@questor.org> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Steve Pershing wrote: > I guess that says it all... perhaps there is something I missed in reading > the help? > > Thanks in advance for any advice. That would seem to be the function of your terminal emulation software....not pine. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 20:30:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22663; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:30:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18703; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:23:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18697; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:23:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM6EH-000005C; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Is it possible to set fg and bg colors on Pine? Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 19:53:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <80B5oc1w165w@questor.org> The PC version of Pine 3.90 will be able to set colors. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Steve Pershing wrote: > I guess that says it all... perhaps there is something I missed in reading > the help? > > Thanks in advance for any advice. > > > > --- > Steve Pershing > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 20:43:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22960; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:43:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28932; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:30:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28926; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:30:24 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qM6dp-0005DlC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:30 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA05186; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 20:14:59 -0700 Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 20:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: CTRL-^ To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Henry @(0-0) wrote: > Someone may ask this before: How can I use ^ (control-6), block, on a Mac? Try ESC-ESC-[SHFT-6] B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 22:05:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24458; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:05:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00195; Thu, 7 Jul 94 21:53:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00189; Thu, 7 Jul 94 21:53:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM7fo-000005C; Thu, 7 Jul 94 21:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sstarr@phxdg1.apo.lc.usbr.gov (Susan J. Starr) Subject: Pine on a Data General Message-Id: Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:17:47 GMT Has anyone successfully compiled Pine on a Data General? I tried building it for sys V,r4 but was not successful. It is looking for libraries that are not there. Any help would be appreciated. Sue From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 22:13:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24607; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:13:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20345; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:04:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20339; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:04:06 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HEFV9391J48ZQX07@asu.edu>; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:07:44 MST Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([129.219.9.141]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113629>; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 22:03:39 -0700 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 1994 22:03:38 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Environment variables in pine.conf on Solaris To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Hello! I am getting segmentation faults if I have something like the following in pine.conf (the system configuration file) on SunOS 5.3: inbox-path={$IMAPSERVER}inbox On my personal account, I am defining IMAPSERVER as follows: IMAPSERVER=ecstest.asu.edu export IMAPSERVER If I get rid of pine.conf and specify the path to the inbox (as above) in my .pinerc, I have no trouble. I can't take any more core dumps. Please advise. Thanks. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 22:36:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25017; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:36:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20761; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:29:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20747; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:29:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM8E7-000005C; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barenco@mildred.physics.ox.ac.uk (Adriano Barenco) Subject: pine and xbiff : how to detect new incoming mail ? Message-Id: <1994Jul4.143430.4125@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 94 14:34:30 BST Hi to everybody, I'm a new pine user, and I'm quite happy with it. However, when I'm working on my station (SParc under solaris 2.3), I would like pine to signal any new incoming mail. I haven't found a way to have it do it, so I tried to use xbiff in parallel (xbiff is just a little program that opens a window on the desktop with an icon that signal when new mail's in). The problem is that, when running xbiff, I cannot access with pine the new mail, i.e. when I try to open the folder INBOX, pine does not find any new message. Does someone have a suggestion how to do that ? Thanks for your help Adriano Barenco ************************************************************************* * Adriano Barenco Phone : (0865) 272 333 * * University of Oxford Fax : (0865) 272 400 * * Clarendon Laboratory Email : a.barenco1@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Parks Road barenco@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Oxford OX1 3DR - U.K. barenco@vax.ox.ac.uk * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 22:49:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25220; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:49:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00842; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:39:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00836; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:39:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM8N2-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barenco@vax.ox.ac.uk Subject: pine and xbiff : how to detect new incoming mail ? Message-Id: <1994Jul4.143535.24327@oxvaxd> Date: 4 Jul 94 14:35:35 GMT Hi to everybody, I'm a new pine user, and I'm quite happy with it. However, when I'm working on my station (SParc under solaris 2.3), I would like pine to signal any new incoming mail. I haven't found a way to have it do it, so I tried to use xbiff in parallel (xbiff is just a little program that opens a window on the desktop with an icon that signal when new mail's in). The problem is that, when running xbiff, I cannot access with pine the new mail, i.e. when I try to open the folder INBOX, pine does not find any new message. Does someone have a suggestion how to do that ? Thanks for your help Adriano Barenco ************************************************************************* * Adriano Barenco Phone : (0865) 272 333 * * University of Oxford Fax : (0865) 272 400 * * Clarendon Laboratory Email : a.barenco1@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Parks Road barenco@physics.oxford.ac.uk * * Oxford OX1 3DR - U.K. barenco@vax.ox.ac.uk * ************************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 23:13:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25676; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:13:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21280; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:04:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21274; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:04:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM8lV-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 22:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cabirac@yorick.umd.edu (Daniel M. Cabirac) Subject: Cut and Paste:HELP! Date: 8 Jul 1994 05:35:01 GMT Message-Id: <2vioi5$kk3@umd5.umd.edu> Is it possible to save the material that you cut from a file to a file name, so that you can read it into another file? If so, please explain. +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ | Daniel Cabirac Work: biotech@nalusda.gov | | Biotechnology Information Center voice (301)504-5947 | | NAL/USDA, Rm. 1400 FAX (301)504-7098 | | 10301 Baltimore Blvd. Personal: cabirac@wam.umd.edu | | Beltsville, MD 20705-2351 (301)794-6618 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 7 23:56:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26392; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:56:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01782; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:49:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01776; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:49:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM9So-00000BC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Cut and Paste:HELP! Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 23:16:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vioi5$kk3@umd5.umd.edu> No. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jul 1994, Daniel M. Cabirac wrote: > Is it possible to save the material that you cut from a file to a file > name, so that you can read it into another file? If so, please explain. > > +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Daniel Cabirac Work: biotech@nalusda.gov | > | Biotechnology Information Center voice (301)504-5947 | > | NAL/USDA, Rm. 1400 FAX (301)504-7098 | > | 10301 Baltimore Blvd. Personal: cabirac@wam.umd.edu | > | Beltsville, MD 20705-2351 (301)794-6618 | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 00:09:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26695; Fri, 8 Jul 94 00:09:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01962; Fri, 8 Jul 94 00:00:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01955; Fri, 8 Jul 94 00:00:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qM9bY-00000DC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 23:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hom@cory.EECS.Berkeley.EDU (Jerry Hom) Subject: default editor Date: 8 Jul 94 06:37:38 GMT Message-Id: I was just getting started on using Pine. I notice that the default editor is pico, but that there is an option for an alternate editor. However, is there any way to make the default editor be 'emacs'? Any info is appreciated. Jerry -- Jerry From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 08:44:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09125; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:44:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09548; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09541; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30:30 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qMHsi-000AI9C; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA12902; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:15:18 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:15:17 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: Pine on a Data General To: "Susan J. Starr" Cc: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Susan J. Starr wrote: > Has anyone successfully compiled Pine on a Data General? I tried building > it for sys V,r4 but was not successful. It is looking for libraries > that are not there. Any help would be appreciated. Yes, we built it successfully on 5.4.2.1 and 5.4.3.0 MU01. That is the 3.89 version. If you can send me the error output, I can maybe help. It has been a while since I made the patches. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 08:47:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09308; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:47:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09557; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09549; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30:33 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qMHsj-0001gDC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 08:30 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA13122; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:18:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:18:18 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Problem with MIME? (fwd) To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 15:05:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian P. Hampson To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Subject: Problem with MIME? Hi, I'm using PINE3.89 and came across the following problem: ---------------------%<-c-u-t-h-e-r-e-----%<----------- >From uucp Thu Jul 7 12:29 PDT 1994 Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA09203; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:29:53 -0700 Received: from wolfe by asl3; Thu, 7 Jul 1994 12:29 PDT Received: from rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de by wolfe.wimsey.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qLy9x-000AMwC; Thu, 7 Jul 94 11:26 PDT Received: from bwl.bwl.th-darmstadt.de by rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de with SMTP id AA34370 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Thu, 7 Jul 1994 20:26:39 +0200 Received: from BWL/MAILQUEUE by bwl.bwl.th-darmstadt.de (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:26:42 GMT+2 Received: from MAILQUEUE by BWL (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:20:27 GMT+2 Received: from vowe.bwl.th-darmstadt.de by bwl.bwl.th-darmstadt.de (Mercury 1.12); Thu, 7 Jul 94 20:20:07 GMT+2 Received: by vowe.bwl.th-darmstadt.de (IBM OS/2 SENDMAIL VERSION 1.2.13 (01/13/94)/1.0um) id AA0134; Thu, 07 Jul 94 20:19:19 GMT Message-Id: <9407072019.AA0134@vowe.bwl.th-darmstadt.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 94 20:17:13 From: "Volker Weber" To: "Brian Hampson" Reply-To: "Volker Weber" Subject: Sqed 0.95 X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0130.773626756"; number=1 id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0130.773626756"; number=1 Content-Type: message/partial; charset="US-ASCII"; id="A.PARTIAL.MESSAGE.ID.0130.773626756"; number=1 Content-Length: 32309 Status: RO X-Status: MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 07 Jul 94 20:17:13 From: "Volker Weber" To: "Brian Hampson" Reply-To: "Volker Weber" Subject: Sqed 0.95 X-Mailer: Ultimedia Mail/2, IBM T. J. Watson Research Center Content-Type: multipart/mixed; charset="US-ASCII"; boundary="PART.BOUNDARY.0130.773626748" > THIS IS A MESSAGE IN 'MIME' FORMAT. Your mail reader does not support MIME. > You may not be able to read some parts of this message. --PART.BOUNDARY.0130.773626748 Content-ID: <131_97_1_773626634> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Description: Sqed is coming your way. No it cannot distinguish between several users on the same system. ciao vowe ______________________________________________________________________________ volker weber vowe@bwl.bwl.th-darmstadt.de voice +49-172-408-2633 kahlertstrasse 32 compuserve 100120,557 tam/fax +49-6151-22618 64293 darmstadt fido 2:2464/111 data/fax +49-6151-25631 --PART.BOUNDARY.0130.773626748 Content-ID: <131_97_1_773626694> Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Description: KEItbGgwLUUAAAAxAAAAZgrkHAABD0VBU1xDb250cm9sLmRsbD7UTQ8AT0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs /wUAANC5AAAxAAAAAAgIAC5BUFBUWVBFAP7/BAAAABBAAAUOAC5UWVBFAP3/CgBFeGVjdXRh YmxlIWstbGg1Le9fAABX4AAAVgrkHAAAC0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs+9ImSIXd9tWk5P977999J37s 792d6JFILFYr0pBgrFhbSEBYEISASDIQhIpIACAwiUAh2VBSAQ7BD6+zoRqWoZYqNpbhcpeP XEdYCKyEBkFG0BKsuJcYqWvYwtY1GEUi9///ffu97JJBFo5jcy3Mu7bm7zN3Obmbm5u5nM28 5rnMzeZu3Oc3yd8PfC3m+Du+Dvj74+fi9ncO1kjbbcx15CMiEIoH++fKkIkQ/6SJ+b9qQ/4f odzDk27Pyuiqyy/ldFkqHO6OL0NHoOxo8x8qL7DMZ/P6BzF5nNxdHSZ ....etc -----------------------%<---e-n-d-------%<----------- Now the problem is that PINE didn't recognize the MIME part, and I ended up with 6 PART messages in base64 :( Any suggestions? Is this an incomplete MIME implimentation by somebody? IBM? you? I don't know? please help. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 09:42:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12686; Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:42:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11292; Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:30:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11286; Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:30:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMIYz-00000BC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 09:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: default editor Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 08:56:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: No, pico is very tightly coupled with Pine, especially for constructing the headers, so a complete replacement is not practical. Pine 3.90 will have an option to automatically invoke your alternate editor for the body of the message though. I suppose you could write a libpico.a replacement that invoked emacs...... ;) --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jul 1994, Jerry Hom wrote: > I was just getting started on using Pine. I notice that the > default editor is pico, but that there is an option for an > alternate editor. However, is there any way to make the > default editor be 'emacs'? Any info is appreciated. > > > Jerry > -- > > > Jerry > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 10:14:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14175; Fri, 8 Jul 94 10:14:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02755; Fri, 8 Jul 94 10:02:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02749; Fri, 8 Jul 94 10:02:28 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HEGKCT89PS8ZQUIT@asu.edu>; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 10:06:12 MST Received: from icsrxp ([129.219.3.10]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113113>; Fri, 8 Jul 1994 10:01:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 08 Jul 1994 10:03:29 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Re: Environment variables in pine.conf on Solaris In-Reply-To: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT My problem was that I had generated the Solaris pine.conf by making a copy of the SunOS 4.1 pine.conf, which, in turn, was generated by making a copy of a .pinerc. David, thanks much for your reply. = ) -- "Halitosis is better than no breath at all." > On Fri, 8 Jul 1994, Shahjehan Khatri wrote: > > > Hello! I am getting segmentation faults if I have something like the > > following in pine.conf (the system configuration file) on SunOS 5.3: > > > > inbox-path={$IMAPSERVER}inbox > > > > On my personal account, I am defining IMAPSERVER as follows: > > > > IMAPSERVER=ecstest.asu.edu > > export IMAPSERVER > > > > If I get rid of pine.conf and specify the path to the inbox (as above) in > > my .pinerc, I have no trouble. > > > > I can't take any more core dumps. Please advise. > > > > Thanks. > > > > -- > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 13:08:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20669; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:08:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06581; Fri, 8 Jul 94 12:55:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06575; Fri, 8 Jul 94 12:55:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMLlR-00000IC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 12:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: procmail - mail processing package v3.03 has been released Date: 8 Jul 1994 18:40:18 GMT Message-Id: <2vk6ii$8jc@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [ It is currently available from comp.sources.misc, volume 43. There have been a considerable amount of changes since v2.91, for details look in the HISTORY file inside the package. ] The procmail mail processing program. (v3.03 1994/06/30) Can be used to create mail-servers, mailing lists, sort your incoming mail into separate folders/files (real convenient when subscribing to one or more mailing lists or for prioritising your mail), preprocess your mail, start any programs upon mail arrival (e.g. to generate different chimes on your workstation for different types of mail) or selectively forward certain incoming mail automatically to someone. Procmail can be used: - and installed by an unprivileged user (for himself only). - as a drop in replacement for the local delivery agent /bin/mail (with biff/comsat support). - as a general mailfilter for whole groups of messages (e.g. when called from within sendmail.cf rules). The accompanying formail program enables you to generate autoreplies, split up digests/mailboxes into the original messages, do some very simple header-munging/extraction, or force mail into mail-format (with leading From line). ---------------------- A recent version can be picked up at various comp.sources.misc archives. The latest version can be obtained directly from the ftp-archive at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.225.3) as (g)zipped tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz <160KB as compressed tar file: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.Z <224KB ---------------------- Feature summary for procmail: + It's less filling (i.e. small) + Very easy to install (rated PG6 :-) + Simple to maintain and configure because all you need is actually only ONE executable (procmail) and ONE configuration file (.procmailrc) + Is event driven (i.e. gets invoked automagically when mail arrives) + Does not use *any* temporary files + Uses standard egrep regular expressions + It poses a very low impact on your system's resources (it's 1.4 times faster than the average /bin/mail in user-cpu time) + Allows for very-easy-to-use yes-no decisions on where the mail should go (can take the size of the mail into consideration) + Also allows for neural-net-type weighted scoring of mails + Filters, delivers and forwards mail *reliably* + Provides a reliable hook (you might even say anchor :-) for any programs or shell scripts you may wish to start upon mail arrival + Performs heroically under even the worst conditions (file system full, out of swap space, process table full, file table full, missing support files, unavailable executables, denied permissions) and tries to deliver the mail somehow anyway + Absolutely undeliverable mail (after trying every trick in the book) will bounce back to the sender (or not, your choice) + Is one of the few mailers to perform reliable mailbox locking across NFS as well (DON'T use NFS mounted mailboxes WITHOUT installing procmail; you may lose valuable mail one day) + Supports four mailfolder standards: single file folders (standard and nonstandard VNIX format), directory folders that contain one file per message, or the similar MH directory folders (numbered files) + Variable assignment and substitution is an extremely complete subset of the standard /bin/sh syntax + Provides a mail log file, which logs all mail arrival, shows in summary whence it came, what it was about, where it went (what folder) and how long (in bytes) it was + Uses this log file to display a wide range of diagnostic and error messages (if something went wrong) + Does not impose *any* limits on line lengths, mail length (as long as memory permits), or the use of any character (any 8-bit character, including '\0' is allowed) in the mail + It has man pages (boy, does *it* have man pages) + Procmail can be used as a local delivery agent with comsat/biff support (*fully* downwards compatible with /bin/mail); in which case it can heal your system mailbox, if something messes up the permissions + Secure system mailbox handling (contrary to several well known /bin/mail implementations) + Provides for a controlled execution of programs and scripts from the aliases file (i.e. under defined user ids) + Allows you to painlessly shift the system mailboxes into the user's home directories + It runs on virtually all (old and future) operating systems which names start with a 'U' or end in an 'X' :-) (i.e. extremely portable code; POSIX, ANSI C and K&R conforming) + Is clock skew immune (e.g. in the case of NFS mounted mailboxes) + Can be used as a general mailfilter for whole groups of messages (e.g. when called from within sendmail.cf rules). + Works with (among others?) sendmail, smail, MMDF and mailsurr Feature summary for formail: + Can generate auto-reply headers + Can convert mail into standard mailbox format (so that you can process it with standard mail programs) + Can split up mailboxes into the individual messages + Can split up digests into the individual messages + Can split up saved articles into the individual articles + Can do simple header munging/extraction + Can extract messages from mailboxes + Can recognise duplicate messages Feature summary for lockfile: + Provides NFS-secure lockfiles to shell script programmers + Gives normal users the ability to lock their system mailbox, regardless of the permissions on the mail-spool directory ---------------------- -- Sincerely, berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). Time is nature's way of making sure everything doesn't happen at once. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 13:14:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20933; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:14:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06718; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:02:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06712; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:02:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMLn4-00000JC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 12:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: SmartList - mailinglist package v3.03 has been released Date: 8 Jul 1994 18:42:22 GMT Message-Id: <2vk6me$8jt@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit [ It is currently available from comp.sources.misc volume43. ] The SmartList mailinglist management package. (v3.03 1994/06/30) The SmartList mailinglist package has been built on top of the procmail mail processing package. In order to install it you'll need the source of the procmail package as well. If you now have just the SmartList sources, get the procmail sources and unpack them on top of the SmartList source tree. ---------------------- A recent version of both packages can be picked up at various comp.sources.misc archives. The latest versions can be obtained directly from the ftp-archive at: ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de as (g)zipped tar files: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz /pub/packages/procmail/SmartList.tar.gz as compressed tar files: /pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.Z /pub/packages/procmail/SmartList.tar.Z ---------------------- Summary of what SmartList provides: + The overseeable management of an arbitrary number of mailinglists + Convenient and simple creation of new mailinglists + Convenient and simple removal of existing mailinglists + Fully automated subscription/unsubscription/help-request processing (no operator intervention needed) + Enough intelligence to overcome the ignorance of some subscribers (will direct subscribe and unsubscribe requests away from the regular list and automatically onto the -request address) + No hardwired format for (un)subscribe requests (i.e. new subscribers need not be educated, unsubscribing users do not need to remember any particular syntax) + *Intelligent* autoremoval of addresses from the list that cause too many bounces + Submissions can be limited to people on the accept list (which could be the current list of subscribers) + The fully automated subscription mechanism allows for a reject list of unwanted subscribers and a general address screening mechanism which allows you to control exactly who is allowed to subscribe + Optional implicit subscription upon first submission to the list + MIME-compliant auto-digest-generation (configurable per list) + Joint management of several mailinglists possible + Customisation per mailinglist or mailinglist group possible (simply remove or create the desired hardlinks) + A listmaintainer can be assigned per list; miscellaneous requests that couldn't be handled by the list automatically are then forwarded to his mail address (instead of being accumulated in a file) + Allows for remote maintenance of any mailinglist by a listmaintainer + Integrated archiving service + Integrated diagnostic aid to give hints to the maintainer about possible problems + Moderated mailinglists with an arbitrary number of moderators + Automatically eliminates duplicate submissions + You can set up a mailinglist to function as a standalone mail archive server + Extended MIME support (autorecognition of well known file formats) + The archive server can send arbitrarily long (even binary) files in MIME-multipart mails ---------------------- -- Sincerely, berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). Time is nature's way of making sure everything doesn't happen at once. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 13:26:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21374; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:26:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16303; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:15:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16297; Fri, 8 Jul 94 13:15:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMLzk-000005C; Fri, 8 Jul 94 12:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kotla@CTC.COM (Srinivas Kotla) Subject: Re: Enhancement suggestion: multiple addressbooks Date: 8 Jul 1994 18:57:49 GMT Message-Id: <2vk7jd$i1c@server1.ctc.com> References: In article , David L Miller writes: > > Pine 3.90 will support multiple addressbooks. > Does this also include public address books that sys admins can maintain for a whole network? -- So long.... Srinivas Kotla. ______________________________ ________________________ _____________________ | __| _ |_ _| \ | |_ _| | |/ | |_ _| | | | Email: kotla@ctc.com |__ | ___|_||_| |\ \| |_||_| | <| | | || | |__| = | Concurrent Tech. Corp |____|___\_|____|_|_\___|____| |_|\_|___|_||_|____|_|_| Phone: (814) 269-2725 ----- Whatever you can do, or dream you can, BEGIN IT - Goethe -------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 15:39:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26342; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:39:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19276; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:31:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19266; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:31:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMNvY-00000NC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 14:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyl@ifcss.org (~{3BR]Az~}CHEN Yilong) Subject: UTF-7 support? sample utilities. Date: 8 Jul 1994 20:34:20 GMT Message-Id: <2vkd8c$2qo@ifcss.org> how about supporting UTF-7 (see my .sig for sample). some prototype conversion utilities esp between chinese BIG5,GB <-> UTF-7 is now available at ifcss.org:/software/unix/convert/utf7 nelson -- +lnM Nelson Chin 102 Brook Street Quincy MA 02170 1508 024 USA +kDg CIIP: nchin+AEA-hnt.com CICC: cyl+AEA-ifcss.org PH:+-1 617 472 2851 +n40 PRODIGY: GWBV10E+AEA-prodigy.com BU: butta1+AEA-bu.edu UTF-7 code From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 15:54:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26896; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:54:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19687; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:47:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19681; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:47:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMOQ3-00000FC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: digior+@pitt.edu (Carl J Digiorgio) Subject: Installing Pine Date: 8 Jul 1994 21:05:38 GMT Message-Id: <2vkf32$1g2@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> Do I need to have root access to successfully install Pine? I was able to compile it rather easily, but am having trouble getting it to work. The tech-notes reccommend placing the executables in either /usr/local/bin or /usr/bin On my system, those directories are write protected, and I am not able to install them there. When I put them (the executables) in my home directory, I am able to start up Pine, etc. and even send mail messages. However, when I try to test receiving mail, the received messages all go to the current mail program. Do I need to create a bin directory in my home directory and link it? If so, how do I go about doing so. Any help would be appreciated. I am also having a few problems when I do run it. For example, whenever I try to compose a message, after I type in the address, I normally hit enter to move to the next field which is CC. However, when I hit enter it asks me which file I want to attach. The only way for me to move to the next field is using the arrow keys. Also, as I'm typing the message using Pico...Every time I hit enter, it concatanates the current line to the line above it. I use Pine on another system and have never had these problems, so I assume I am installing wrong or something. Any ideas? Thank you. -- _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ / _ _/ /_ _/ / \ Carl J. DiGiorgio "The reward for work well / /_ _/ / / / / cdi@med.pitt.edu done is the opportunity /_ _ / /_ _/ /_ _/ digior+@pitt.edu to do more" - Jonas Salk From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 16:08:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27540; Fri, 8 Jul 94 16:08:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20025; Fri, 8 Jul 94 16:01:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19998; Fri, 8 Jul 94 16:01:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMOc1-00000eC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 15:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: UTF-7 support? sample utilities. Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 14:23:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vkd8c$2qo@ifcss.org> UTF-7 support is a possibility for the future, but it is going to take _alot_ of work to handle it right! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 8 Jul 1994 cyl@ifcss.ifcss.org wrote: > how about supporting UTF-7 (see my .sig for sample). > some prototype conversion utilities esp between chinese BIG5,GB <-> UTF-7 > is now available at ifcss.org:/software/unix/convert/utf7 > > nelson > -- > +lnM Nelson Chin 102 Brook Street Quincy MA 02170 1508 024 USA > +kDg CIIP: nchin+AEA-hnt.com CICC: cyl+AEA-ifcss.org PH:+-1 617 472 2851 > +n40 PRODIGY: GWBV10E+AEA-prodigy.com BU: butta1+AEA-bu.edu UTF-7 code > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 17:46:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01624; Fri, 8 Jul 94 17:46:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13354; Fri, 8 Jul 94 17:36:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13348; Fri, 8 Jul 94 17:36:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMQ7X-00000BC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 17:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: BUG: Forced exit when composing Date: 8 Jul 1994 01:20:48 GMT Message-Id: <2vi9lg$8md@news.cs.tulane.edu> I think this might have been said before, but I am not sure. I have been kicked out of PINE 3.89 numerous times while composing a message (I think it has usually been postponed messages), as soon as I receive mail. Is there anyway to prevent this from happening or at least retrieve my lost composition? _________________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President _________________________________________________________________________ --- It takes a big man to cry, but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that --- man. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 8 19:54:21 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04472; Fri, 8 Jul 94 19:54:21 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24120; Fri, 8 Jul 94 19:46:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24114; Fri, 8 Jul 94 19:46:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMS9C-00000IC; Fri, 8 Jul 94 19:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Please help with rimpapd Date: 9 Jul 1994 02:12:50 GMT Message-Id: <2vl132$bk1@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> I have pine running with imapd, but would like to use the rimpad feature. I understand how to link from /etc/rimapd to imapd, but I do not understand how to use it. I have read the tech notes over and over, and it seems like I am missing something-- a basic understanding of how to use rsh to access tcp sockets. Can someone post or direct me to cookbook instructions for getting it to work? -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 04:23:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14194; Sat, 9 Jul 94 04:23:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22533; Sat, 9 Jul 94 04:17:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22527; Sat, 9 Jul 94 04:17:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMa7O-000005C; Sat, 9 Jul 94 03:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zagar@names.maricopa.edu (Chris Zagar) Subject: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 Date: 8 Jul 1994 21:54:06 -0700 Message-Id: <2vlahe$a1g@names.maricopa.edu> I have a problem that I hope someone knows the solution to. We are running Pine on a PC running BSD/386. Everything works great except when people connect to the machine using NCSA Telnet on the Mac. For these people, the return key ends up being treated like it is sending linefeeds during mail creation, such that hitting return either tries to attach files or in the body tries to reform the paragraph. Any suggestions? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- /\ /\ Chris Zagar Maricopa Community Colleges / \ / \ Director, Instructional Technology 2411 West 14th Street / /\// /\ \ Bitnet: ZAGAR@MARICOPA Tempe, AZ 85281 \/ \/ \/ Internet: zagar@names.maricopa.edu (602) 731-8838 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 09:54:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19204; Sat, 9 Jul 94 09:54:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05509; Sat, 9 Jul 94 09:47:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05503; Sat, 9 Jul 94 09:47:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMfK9-000005C; Sat, 9 Jul 94 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: D.M.Roch@reading.ac.uk (Mike Roch) Subject: Reliable PC <-> Mac floppy-free document tranfers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 16:16:18 +0000 Message-Id: We run a system that has both Macs and PC's connected by CAP and PC-NFS respectively to a Sun/Auspex NFS environment. PC users mount their Unix home directories via PC-NFS and use Pine on Unix for email. Mac users mount their Unix home directories via CAP and use Eudora on Mac for email. Mac -> PC document transfer seems much easier than PC -> Mac, mainly due to the way in which Mac resource forks are handled. Excel on Mac refuses to open PC Excel spreadsheets MIME mailed Pine->Eudora or saved via PC-NFS and read via CAP. Resediting the file to fix Type/Creator does not seem to fool Excel. Does anyone with a similar environment have a tried and tested regime for passing documents from PC <-> Mac via shared directories and/or MIME ? Mike ============================================================================== Mike Roch, Computer Services Centre, Tel: 0734 318430 The University, Whiteknights, Reading, RG6 2AF Fax: 0734 753094 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 11:45:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20943; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:45:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28239; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:33:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28233; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:33:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMgwX-000005C; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fool@chopin.udel.edu (Gwendolyn El Eckman) Subject: Removing Headers Date: 9 Jul 1994 14:09:05 -0400 Message-Id: <2vmp41$k3v@chopin.udel.edu> Is there a way to save a file so that this: >From fool@chopin.udel.edu Wed Jun 29 10:35:43 1994 Received: (from cdonohue@localhost) by bach.udel.edu (8.6.8/8.6.6) id RAA29204; Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:10:48 -0400 Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:10:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Donohue Subject: frustration To: Gwendolyn El Eckman Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII looks like this Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:10:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Christopher Donohue To: Gwendolyn El Eckman Subject: frustration I am trying to condense things so that I can print out a series of letters in one file, and not page by page with the pine print command. thanks, Gwen -- ...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...---...--- - gwen eckman wake up in the rain . - fool@chopin.udel.edu eckman@freezer.cns.udel.edu . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 12:10:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21395; Sat, 9 Jul 94 12:10:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07207; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:57:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07201; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:57:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMhJ4-000005C; Sat, 9 Jul 94 11:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Removing Headers Date: 9 Jul 1994 18:36:44 GMT Message-Id: <2vmqns$8ni@news.ysu.edu> References: <2vmp41$k3v@chopin.udel.edu> In a previous article, fool@chopin.udel.edu (Gwendolyn El Eckman) says: >Is there a way to save a file so that this: > [full header] >looks like this > >Date: Tue, 28 Jun 1994 17:10:48 -0400 (EDT) >From: Christopher Donohue >To: Gwendolyn El Eckman >Subject: frustration > > [message] Yes. xport the file. It will be written into your home directory rather than your mail directory. Any special encodings will be converted to displayable characters. And you will get only these headers. You can also export multiple messages to the same file, appending each to the previous exported message. -- Barry Bouwsma, in Ann Arbor Michigan, soon to be back biking eastern Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployable System Cracker seeking work; food; chocolate; Czech pastries, ice cream, and beer; travel partner; free airline tickets; and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 15:32:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25010; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:32:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01492; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:20:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01486; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:20:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMkVG-00000HC; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kcivey@cpcug.digex.net (Keith Ivey) Subject: Re: Off-line composing Date: 9 Jul 1994 21:46:53 GMT Message-Id: <2vn5sd$chd@news1.digex.net> References: <2upfi4$6ih@mozz.unh.edu> <2v5i75$cme@raffles.technet.sg> The ANSI-like codes displayed during and after an ASCII upload from Procomm go away if I press control-L (redraw screen). It isn't necessary to press control-J (justify), so you don't need to worry about messing up formatting. --Keith Ivey Washington, DC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 16:01:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25489; Sat, 9 Jul 94 16:01:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10209; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:49:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10203; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:49:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMkvB-00000IC; Sat, 9 Jul 94 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kcivey@cpcug.digex.net (Keith Ivey) Subject: Setting line length? Date: 9 Jul 1994 22:13:59 GMT Message-Id: <2vn7f7$d0u@news1.digex.net> Is it possible to set the line length in Pine? I think 80-character lines are too long to read comfortably, and they often lead to ugly wrapping if quoted. (Of course, I have the same problem with Tin, which also uses Pico.) --Keith Ivey Washington, DC From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 20:36:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29607; Sat, 9 Jul 94 20:36:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05585; Sat, 9 Jul 94 20:25:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05579; Sat, 9 Jul 94 20:25:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMpCV-000006C; Sat, 9 Jul 94 20:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skippy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Ian Goh) Subject: When can we expect pine for the Mac? Date: 9 Jul 1994 23:02:12 -0400 Message-Id: <2vnobkINNeon@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> I've seen PC Pine. Any indication as to when Mac Pine will be available? Is it in alpha, beta testing? Or is it still vapor ware? TIA, --- Ian --- ps. if you need a tester, give me a holler! -- "Shop smart, shop S-MART." - Ash, "Army of Darkness" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 9 21:29:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00396; Sat, 9 Jul 94 21:29:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14314; Sat, 9 Jul 94 21:18:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watsun.cc.columbia.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14308; Sat, 9 Jul 94 21:18:04 -0700 Received: by watsun.cc.columbia.edu id AA01958 (5.65c+CU/IDA-1.4.4/HLK for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sun, 10 Jul 1994 00:17:43 -0400 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 94 0:17:43 EDT From: Joe Brennan To: zagar@names.maricopa.edu (Chris Zagar) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 In-Reply-To: Your message of 8 Jul 1994 21:54:06 -0700 Message-Id: > I have a problem that I hope someone knows the solution to. We are > running Pine on a PC running BSD/386. Everything works great except > when people connect to the machine using NCSA Telnet on the Mac. > For these people, the return key ends up being treated like it > is sending linefeeds during mail creation, such that hitting return > either tries to attach files or in the body tries to reform the > paragraph. > > Any suggestions? We had to rewrite the code to move functions away from control-J. Some sites do not have this problem, including the home of pine in Washington, but some do. I would sincerely request a "no control j" compile option in some forthcoming version. I'll try to package the changes as a patch for 3.90; right now the various changes we did are intermingled, so I don't have this part readily available. You may note that literally control key and J ends up as a control-M character on the unix host. This is the problem. We could not find what does it. The version of telnet is the same one they have at Washington. Probably it is somewhere in the network. Joseph Brennan Academic Information Systems Columbia University in the City of New York brennan@columbia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 00:14:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02822; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:14:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08318; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:02:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08312; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:02:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMsZf-00000JC; Sat, 9 Jul 94 23:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: When can we expect pine for the Mac? Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 23:35:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vnobkINNeon@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vnobkINNeon@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> We do not have any plans for a Mac port at this time. One of the Pine Team members has done some preliminary investigation in his spare time, but he has set it aside for now... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jul 1994, Ian Goh wrote: > I've seen PC Pine. Any indication as to when Mac Pine will be > available? Is it in alpha, beta testing? Or is it still vapor ware? > > TIA, > > --- Ian --- > ps. if you need a tester, give me a holler! > > -- > > "Shop smart, shop S-MART." > - Ash, "Army of Darkness" > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 00:15:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02853; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:15:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16359; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:02:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16345; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:02:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMsYd-00000IC; Sat, 9 Jul 94 23:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Setting line length? Date: Sat, 9 Jul 1994 23:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vn7f7$d0u@news1.digex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vn7f7$d0u@news1.digex.net> That feature has been frequently requested, but is not yet implemented... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jul 1994, Keith Ivey wrote: > Is it possible to set the line length in Pine? I think 80-character lines > are too long to read comfortably, and they often lead to ugly wrapping if > quoted. > > (Of course, I have the same problem with Tin, which also uses Pico.) > > --Keith Ivey > Washington, DC > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 01:02:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03794; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:02:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08990; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:51:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08984; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:51:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMtNo-00000XC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dpirl@crl.com (Donald Pirl) Subject: Re: Problem with MIME? (fwd) Date: 10 Jul 1994 00:21:18 -0700 Message-Id: <2vo7he$m6a@crl3.crl.com> References: Brian P. Hampson (brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca) wrote: : KEItbGgwLUUAAAAxAAAAZgrkHAABD0VBU1xDb250cm9sLmRsbD7UTQ8AT0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs : /wUAANC5AAAxAAAAAAgIAC5BUFBUWVBFAP7/BAAAABBAAAUOAC5UWVBFAP3/CgBFeGVjdXRh : YmxlIWstbGg1Le9fAABX4AAAVgrkHAAAC0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs+9ImSIXd9tWk5P977999J37s : 792d6JFILFYr0pBgrFhbSEBYEISASDIQhIpIACAwiUAh2VBSAQ7BD6+zoRqWoZYqNpbhcpeP : XEdYCKyEBkFG0BKsuJcYqWvYwtY1GEUi9///ffu97JJBFo5jcy3Mu7bm7zN3Obmbm5u5nM28 : 5rnMzeZu3Oc3yd8PfC3m+Du+Dvj74+fi9ncO1kjbbcx15CMiEIoH++fKkIkQ/6SJ+b9qQ/4f : odzDk27Pyuiqyy/ldFkqHO6OL0NHoOxo8x8qL7DMZ/P6BzF5nNxdHSZ Somehow I am sending messages like the above using Pine. It happens when I read in a file [^R] which I have uploaded from my DOS PC to the Unix workstation where I have my Internet account. After that at the end of every line there is ^M (which acts like _one_ character if I try to delete it. If I e-mail it others see it as above and forward it to me to show me. Could it be that the ^M toggles MIME? (I don't even know what MIME is :) .) The work-around I'm using to use uploaded files is to send them first to myself after including them. They come though fine, then I forward the message to the real recipient (first removing the header). Thanks for any help. Don From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 01:21:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04375; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:21:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09341; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:10:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09335; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:10:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMthL-00000BC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Re: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 Date: 10 Jul 1994 07:47:23 GMT Message-Id: <2vo92b$l9s@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: You mat be able to termorarily work around the problem with an stty command to change the way ctrl-j and ctrl-m work. Here are some possibilities to try (with explanations from the stty man page): stty options options that might affect it: igncr (-igncr) Ignore (do not ignore) CR on input. icrnl (-icrnl) Map (do not map) CR to a new-line character on input. onlcr (-onlcr) Map (do not map) new-line character to a carriage-return/new-line character sequence on output. ocrnl (-ocrnl) Map (do not map) CR to new-line character on output. onlret (-onlret) On the terminal, a new-line character performs (does not perform) the CR function. typing stty -a should show the current setup. Good luck! -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 01:28:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04480; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:28:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17440; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:17:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17434; Sun, 10 Jul 94 01:16:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMtmi-00000HC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 00:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: feeseb@centre.edu (Ben T. Feese) Subject: Re: Public address books - RFI Message-Id: Date: Fri, 8 Jul 1994 02:07:45 GMT References: <2umtsd$9va@server1.ctc.com> Srinivas Kotla (kotla@CTC.COM) wrote: >"Hi all, >" Excuse me if this was discussed before. I was wondering if there is any scheme to maintain public address lists such that all the unix users at our site can look up local addresses? PC mail systems provide that feature so that people dont have to rem ember/know email addresses. >" Please post or send responses to kotla@ctc.com. Thanks. >"-- >"So long.... >"Srinivas Kotla. ========================================================= Such a feature would be great. What would be even greater would be to be able to access such a list, from within pine, remotely at other Internet domains. (sort of a "directory assistance" for Internet) ============================================================================= Ben T. Feese Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 04:51:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08695; Sun, 10 Jul 94 04:51:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12319; Sun, 10 Jul 94 04:41:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12313; Sun, 10 Jul 94 04:41:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qMwxP-00000BC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 04:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) Subject: Re: default editor Date: 10 Jul 1994 11:18:07 GMT Message-Id: <2voldf$iug@mozz.unh.edu> References: >No, pico is very tightly coupled with Pine, especially for constructing the >headers, so a complete replacement is not practical. Pine 3.90 will have an >option to automatically invoke your alternate editor for the body of the >message though. I think this questions has been asked before, and perhaps answered, but what unix editor can I invoke on my host machine or download to it that will more closely resemble WordStar? It has always been true that I have a tendency to use WordStar commands while writing email online, but now that the host has switched from clunky Eve to slicker Pico/Pine, I find that I now have a tendency to use Pine commands while in WordStar! Plus I can't stand those long reaches to ctrl-@. Ctrl f, b, d, and h don't post any problem, but ctrl-c is bad (it's page down in WordStar) as is cntrl-x (I don't remember what that does in WordStar, but my fingers do, and that is the whole problem--a touch typist doesn't know what the fingers are doing; they just go ahead and do it!). -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 09:37:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12916; Sun, 10 Jul 94 09:37:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23740; Sun, 10 Jul 94 09:20:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23734; Sun, 10 Jul 94 09:20:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN1Ij-00000BC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 09:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Problem with MIME? (fwd) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 08:48:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vo7he$m6a@crl3.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vo7he$m6a@crl3.crl.com> Some versions of Pine (e.g. 3.87) will trigger BASE64 encoding on a ^M. Pine 3.89 is much less sensitive in that regard.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 10 Jul 1994, Donald Pirl wrote: > Brian P. Hampson (brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca) wrote: > > : KEItbGgwLUUAAAAxAAAAZgrkHAABD0VBU1xDb250cm9sLmRsbD7UTQ8AT0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs > : /wUAANC5AAAxAAAAAAgIAC5BUFBUWVBFAP7/BAAAABBAAAUOAC5UWVBFAP3/CgBFeGVjdXRh > : YmxlIWstbGg1Le9fAABX4AAAVgrkHAAAC0NvbnRyb2wuZGxs+9ImSIXd9tWk5P977999J37s > : 792d6JFILFYr0pBgrFhbSEBYEISASDIQhIpIACAwiUAh2VBSAQ7BD6+zoRqWoZYqNpbhcpeP > : XEdYCKyEBkFG0BKsuJcYqWvYwtY1GEUi9///ffu97JJBFo5jcy3Mu7bm7zN3Obmbm5u5nM28 > : 5rnMzeZu3Oc3yd8PfC3m+Du+Dvj74+fi9ncO1kjbbcx15CMiEIoH++fKkIkQ/6SJ+b9qQ/4f > : odzDk27Pyuiqyy/ldFkqHO6OL0NHoOxo8x8qL7DMZ/P6BzF5nNxdHSZ > > Somehow I am sending messages like the above using Pine. It happens when > I read in a file [^R] which I have uploaded from my DOS PC to the Unix > workstation where I have my Internet account. After that at the end of > every line there is ^M (which acts like _one_ character if I try to delete > it. If I e-mail it others see it as above and forward it to me to show > me. > > Could it be that the ^M toggles MIME? (I don't even know what MIME is :) > .) The work-around I'm using to use uploaded files is to send them first > to myself after including them. They come though fine, then I forward the > message to the real recipient (first removing the header). > > Thanks for any help. > > Don > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 11:07:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14242; Sun, 10 Jul 94 11:07:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17042; Sun, 10 Jul 94 10:56:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17036; Sun, 10 Jul 94 10:56:31 -0700 Received: (from hayden@localhost) by vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA05231; Sun, 10 Jul 1994 13:05:29 -0500 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 13:05:27 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: default editor To: Dan Ford Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2voldf$iug@mozz.unh.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Jul 1994, Dan Ford wrote: > I think this questions has been asked before, and perhaps answered, but > what unix editor can I invoke on my host machine or download to it that > will more closely resemble WordStar? Look for an editer called 'joe'. It is a very small, but full-featured editor that uses wordstar bindings. ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or Blue Earth County -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 1.0.1) GAT d- -p+(---) c++(++++) l++ u++ e+/* m++(*)@ s-/++ n-(---) h+(*) f+ g+ w++ t++ r++ y+(*) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 11:51:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14953; Sun, 10 Jul 94 11:51:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17541; Sun, 10 Jul 94 11:34:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17535; Sun, 10 Jul 94 11:34:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN3LI-000006C; Sun, 10 Jul 94 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abbe@ccnet.com (Mitch Chen) Subject: new version of pine? Date: 10 Jul 1994 11:02:47 -0700 Message-Id: <2vpd47$4m@ccnet.ccnet.com> So what is the newest version of pine for unix now? I heard they will be relesae a newer version this summer which allow you request a returen receipt. Anyone know when are they going to come out? and where to get it? Thank U! Please use Email to reply, thankx. abbe@ccnet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 13:06:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16444; Sun, 10 Jul 94 13:06:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26407; Sun, 10 Jul 94 12:49:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26393; Sun, 10 Jul 94 12:49:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN4XH-000006C; Sun, 10 Jul 94 12:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edgar@zeitgeist.net (Edgar Nielsen) Subject: Re: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 Message-Id: References: <2vlahe$a1g@names.maricopa.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 19:21:58 GMT Chris Zagar (zagar@names.maricopa.edu) wrote: : I have a problem that I hope someone knows the solution to. We are : running Pine on a PC running BSD/386. Everything works great except : when people connect to the machine using NCSA Telnet on the Mac. : For these people, the return key ends up being treated like it : is sending linefeeds during mail creation, such that hitting return : either tries to attach files or in the body tries to reform the : paragraph. I saw this problem too. I was able to get rid of it by finagling with the NCSA telnet(2.6) settings. I think it was disabling the 'linemode' setting in one of the preferences, unfortunately I can't get to my mac with the right settings..... edgar nielsen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 13:57:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17156; Sun, 10 Jul 94 13:57:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19229; Sun, 10 Jul 94 13:42:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19223; Sun, 10 Jul 94 13:42:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN5RB-000006C; Sun, 10 Jul 94 13:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sti@cs.hut.fi (Sami-Jaakko Tikka) Subject: Re: Pine Folders -> Eudora (PC) mailboxes Date: 10 Jul 1994 23:04:02 +0300 Message-Id: <2vpk7iINNouq@tahma.cs.hut.fi> References: In lyn6@midway.uchicago.edu (Caitrin Lynch) writes: >How can I transform my pine folders into something readable Eudora (PC). I just transferred my Eudora (Mac) folders to my unix account, and put them in ~/mail. I used ftp where the ftp-client did the proper linefeed conversion. Pine read the files with no problems. I suppose you can make it happen the other way around too. -- Sami Tikka "Peace and Long Life." "Live Long and Prosper." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 15:07:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18125; Sun, 10 Jul 94 15:07:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20124; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20118; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN6Fd-00000HC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: When can we expect pine for the Mac? Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 14:04:41 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vnobkINNeon@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> Ian - Mac Pine is still vapor. I hope that I may be able to return to working on it later this year. I'm currently involved with other tasks. As a temporary expedient, I recommend Mail Drop from Baylor as a very nice (if somewhat minimal) IMAP client for the Mac. To date, it's the only Mac program I've tested which is reliable (I've never had it crash) and uses IMAP in the remote access model. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 15:08:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18156; Sun, 10 Jul 94 15:08:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20132; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20126; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN6Fh-00000IC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 14:09:33 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Joe - The problem is not in NCSA Telnet, but rather in the telnetd on the UNIX host. A version of BSD telnetd of several years ago did not handle Telnet newlines correctly. This was fixed back in 1991, but a lot of vendors still are distributing the old broken version. A workaround for some systems (e.g. NeXT) is the command: stty -extproc From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 15:09:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18187; Sun, 10 Jul 94 15:09:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20116; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20102; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:51:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN6Fc-00000BC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 14:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: Pine and NCSA Telnet for Mac on BSD/386 Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 14:02:51 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vlahe$a1g@names.maricopa.edu> Chris - Your problem with returns being transmogrified to line feeds is a known bug in old versions of the BSD Telnet daemon. The choice is to upgrade to a newer version of telnetd, or try the command stty -extproc as a possible workaround. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 17:18:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20119; Sun, 10 Jul 94 17:18:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29661; Sun, 10 Jul 94 17:07:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29655; Sun, 10 Jul 94 17:07:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN8YC-00000IC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 16:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dfredric@moose.uvm.edu (Derek R. Fredrickson) Subject: Saving Messages on Tin Message-Id: <1994Jul10.224610.24295@emba.uvm.edu> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 22:46:10 GMT I am not sure if this is the place for this question vut I thought I would ask it anyway.. When I use tin to read all my newsgroups I use Shift K to delete a message, but how do I save a message to stay in that message after reading it? After I read a message it delete's it when I exit that newsgroup.. Any ideas? -- --- Derek R. Fredrickson VOICE : (802) 656-2053 Treasurer, Student Government Association VOICE : (802) 656-7734 University of Vermont FAX : (802) 656-7719 Burlington, VT. USA E MAIL : Derek.Fredrickson@uvm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 18:29:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21252; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:29:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00601; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:13:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00595; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:13:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qN9bQ-00000JC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 17:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: feeseb@centre.edu (Ben T. Feese) Subject: Re: Cut and Paste:HELP! Message-Id: Date: Sun, 10 Jul 1994 22:14:57 GMT References: Cutting & pasting, even if in this kludgy way, would be a most welcome feature in pine. Is it technically too difficult to work into a future version? (I know....users are never satisfied!) ============================================================================= Ben T. Feese Professor of Biology Biochemistry/Molecular Biology Program Centre College, Danville, KY 40422 (USA) Internet: feeseb@centre.edu Phone: (606) 238-5318 FAX: (606) 236-7925 =============================== David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: >"No. >"|\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >"|/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >"University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >"4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA >"On 8 Jul 1994, Daniel M. Cabirac wrote: >"> Is it possible to save the material that you cut from a file to a file >"> name, so that you can read it into another file? If so, please explain. >"> >"> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ >"> | Daniel Cabirac Work: biotech@nalusda.gov | >"> | Biotechnology Information Center voice (301)504-5947 | >"> | NAL/USDA, Rm. 1400 FAX (301)504-7098 | >"> | 10301 Baltimore Blvd. Personal: cabirac@wam.umd.edu | >"> | Beltsville, MD 20705-2351 (301)794-6618 | >"> +-----------------------------------------------------------------+ >"> >"> >"> >"> >"> >"> >"> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 19:08:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21878; Sun, 10 Jul 94 19:08:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01202; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:56:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01196; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:56:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNAKV-00000HC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 18:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bill@camco1.celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: pine3.89 on SCO ODT 3.0 -- without mmdf Date: 11 Jul 1994 01:33:44 GMT Message-Id: <2vq7ho$hkj@camco.celestial.com> I compiled pine3.89 this afternoon for SCO 3.0 without mmdf to use with smail-3.1.28 and sendmail. I used the imap-3.2 c-client that we've been using here for several months (copied the ANSI/c-client directory directly into the pine hierarchy). For pine itself, I started with the HP (hpp) files as I had done with pine-3.07, and there were very few modifications necessary to get this working. The main things I had to do was to change the load libraries in the makefile and a couple of minor defines in the osdep/os-sco.h file (vfork isn't available, and it needs sys/time.h). I also added a truncate() command to the os-sco.h. This seems to be working, but I haven't thoroughly tested all the options. It appears to work properly both with mailboxes on remote systems, and with local mailboxes. It did not work on a local file in mmdf format (but then I wasn't trying to make this work :-). The compiled source is in: ftp.celestial.com:/pub/sco-ports/unix/pine-3.89.tar.gz I would be interested in any feedback from anybody who tries this or other people who've got pine working on SCO without mmdf. It's been a while since I last looked at pine (version 3.07 to be specific). At that time, I also started with the HP files, and had to change a call to disk_space because of different block size reporting. I didn't find any references to this in the pine-3.89 distribution so this change wasn't made here. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: ...!thebes!camco!bill 8545 SE 68th Street camco!bill Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 SPEED COSTS MONEY -- HOW FAST DO YOU WANT TO GO? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 20:34:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23139; Sun, 10 Jul 94 20:34:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24717; Sun, 10 Jul 94 20:24:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24709; Sun, 10 Jul 94 20:24:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNBez-00000IC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 20:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) Subject: Printing full headers Date: 10 Jul 1994 23:03:55 -0400 Message-Id: <2vqcqr$55i@panix2.panix.com> I've added the command to .pinerc which enables the full header menu option, but even with the full header displayed the print command prints only the basic 4-line header. Is there a way for the Pine print command to include the full header? Thanks. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mitch Regenbogen | | | mreg@panix.com | "I like to watch." --Chauncey Gardner | | Brooklyn, New York | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 21:34:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24076; Sun, 10 Jul 94 21:34:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03134; Sun, 10 Jul 94 21:24:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03128; Sun, 10 Jul 94 21:24:33 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNCZh-00000IC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 21:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: traigle@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Jeffrey Scott Traigle) Subject: Re: When can we expect pine for the Mac? Date: 11 Jul 94 03:54:52 GMT Message-Id: References: Mark Crispin writes: > As a temporary expedient, I recommend Mail Drop from Baylor as a very >nice (if somewhat minimal) IMAP client for the Mac. To date, it's the only >Mac program I've tested which is reliable (I've never had it crash) and uses >IMAP in the remote access model. I would recommend Mailstrom. The only problem that I have had is having PPP dial the modem when I start it up. This locks the computer up. I have to to go into the PPP control panel to make the connection first. Otherwise, I have had no crashes. (Of course, I've only used it minimally from home, too, so take it for what it's worth.) I've heard that version 2.0 is supposed to be right around the corner so enclosures will be possible. Having MacPine would be really nice though. I really dislike not having access to my remote folders unless I telnet to one of my machines and use Pine. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 10 23:53:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26568; Sun, 10 Jul 94 23:53:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27397; Sun, 10 Jul 94 23:42:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27391; Sun, 10 Jul 94 23:42:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNEmA-00000BC; Sun, 10 Jul 94 23:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dpirl@crl.com (Donald Pirl) Subject: Re: Problem with MIME? (fwd) Date: 10 Jul 1994 23:10:38 -0700 Message-Id: <2vqnou$pe7@crl3.crl.com> References: <2vo7he$m6a@crl3.crl.com> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Some versions of Pine (e.g. 3.87) will trigger BASE64 encoding on a ^M. Pine : 3.89 is much less sensitive in that regard.... Thanks. Looks like my hunch was right. Now to get my site to upgrade to 3.89... (I'm guessing we have 3.87) Don From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 00:37:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27296; Mon, 11 Jul 94 00:37:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05514; Mon, 11 Jul 94 00:24:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05508; Mon, 11 Jul 94 00:24:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNFRc-00000DC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 00:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gclayman@phantom.com (Greg Clayman) Subject: Re: cancelling the saving of outgoing mail... Date: 11 Jul 1994 06:41:30 GMT Message-Id: <2vqpiq$46s@dockmaster.phantom.com> References: <2us3n1$gv1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <2vbsnc$pfu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> matthewn@uiuc.edu wrote: : The correct way to do this is to, in your .pinerc, specify "" as the : folder to save to. : Another way is to specify /dev/null as the folder to receive sent-mail. The Pine on my system, by default, does *not* save outgoing mail into any sort of snet-mail floder. What is the command I have to add (or change) to .pinerc to get Pine to do this? Thanks. - Greg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 09:50:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11791; Mon, 11 Jul 94 09:50:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14113; Mon, 11 Jul 94 09:34:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14107; Mon, 11 Jul 94 09:34:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNNza-00000DC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 09:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hughes@hulaw1.harvard.edu Subject: How to spawn from Pine? Message-Id: <1994Jul11.115224.33461@hulaw1.harvard.edu> Date: 11 Jul 94 11:52:24 EDT Is there a way (other than using postpone (^O) and quitting), to interrupt Pine, drop to the operating system (spawn), do something there, and then exit back to Pine? Brian L. Hughes Computer Support Harvard Law School hughes@hulaw1.harvard.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 10:52:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14757; Mon, 11 Jul 94 10:52:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08760; Mon, 11 Jul 94 10:37:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciao.trail.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08751; Mon, 11 Jul 94 10:37:33 -0700 Received: by CIAO (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA20304; Mon, 11 Jul 94 10:40:10 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 10:40:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Showers Subject: ^S causes freeze-up To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have a concerned director of our network, who would like to know what using ^S while in compose does to cause the session to freeze (and I can verify that it does on everything from Mac to Sun to PC.) And is there a way to trap the ^S signal so as to protect the unsuspecting? Grateful as always, /\ /\ /\ Michael Showers / \^^^/\/ /^^^^\ Technical Coordinator ^^^^^^ CIAO! Free-Net ------------------------------------------------------ email:mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca - voice:(604) 368-2234 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 11:53:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17495; Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:53:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17190; Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:36:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ftp.celestial.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17184; Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:36:02 -0700 Received: by camco1.celestial.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qNQEr-00039gC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 11:38 PDT Message-Id: From: bill@celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: Re: ^S causes freeze-up To: mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca (Michael Showers) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 11:38:00 -0700 (PDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Michael Showers" at Jul 11, 94 10:40:08 am Reply-To: bill@Celestial.COM Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA 98040 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1266 > > > We have a concerned director of our network, who would like to know what > using ^S while in compose does to cause the session to freeze (and I can > verify that it does on everything from Mac to Sun to PC.) > > And is there a way to trap the ^S signal so as to protect the unsuspecting? > I don't know of any way to trap the ^S, but you can probably set ixany for the terminal session which will treat any character from the terminal as an xon to restart transmission. You may want to do this by putting it in the /etc/gettydefs for the terminal, or it could probably be put in a shell wrapper for pine. i.e. : #! /bin/sh STTY=`stty -g` # save current settings pine # execcute pine stty $STTY # restore settings to previous values. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: camco!bill 8545 SE 68th Street FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 ... so long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrranize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men. -- Voltarine de Cleyre From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 13:37:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22513; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:37:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12628; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:09:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciao.trail.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12620; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:09:00 -0700 Received: by CIAO (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA23458; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:11:40 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:11:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Michael Showers Subject: Re: ^S causes freeze-up To: Bill Campbell Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 11 Jul 1994, Bill Campbell wrote: > > And is there a way to trap the ^S signal so as to protect the unsuspecting? > > > I don't know of any way to trap the ^S, but you can probably set ixany > for the terminal session which will treat any character from the > terminal as an xon to restart transmission. You may want to do this > by putting it in the /etc/gettydefs for the terminal, or it could > probably be put in a shell wrapper for pine. i.e. > > : Thanks, but > #! /bin/sh > STTY=`stty -g` # save current settings > pine # execcute pine > stty $STTY # restore settings to previous values. > Tried this, no joy, same freezing occurred. Perhaps it is a local problem with our Sun. /\ /\ /\ Michael Showers / \^^^/\/ /^^^^\ Technical Coordinator ^^^^^^ CIAO! Free-Net ------------------------------------------------------ email:mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca - voice:(604) 368-2234 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 13:57:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23297; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:57:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13025; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:28:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from chert.CS.ORST.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13019; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:28:03 -0700 Received: from python.CS.ORST.EDU by research.CS.ORST.EDU (4.1/1.30) id AA17425; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:27:33 PDT Message-Id: <9407112027.AA17425@research.CS.ORST.EDU> To: bill@celestial.com Cc: mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca (Michael Showers), pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ^S causes freeze-up From: Jason Thorpe Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:27:31 PDT Try ^Q ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason R. Thorpe thorpej@cs.orst.edu 754-1554 OSU CS Support CSWest Room 12 737-5567 'These are my opinions and not necessarily those of anyone else.' NetBSD/Symmetry - Coming soon to a Sequent near you! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 14:43:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25380; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:43:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21207; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:32:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21201; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:32:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNSQf-00000yC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 13:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Please help with rimpapd Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 13:07:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vl132$bk1@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vl132$bk1@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> Pine will automatically try to open an rsh connection before trying the IMAP port (143). If "rsh host /etc/rimapd" works, Pine should work. If not, the errors from rsh should give you a place to start looking. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 9 Jul 1994, Noel Hunter wrote: > I have pine running with imapd, but would like to use the rimpad feature. > I understand how to link from /etc/rimapd to imapd, but I do not > understand how to use it. I have read the tech notes over and over, and > it seems like I am missing something-- a basic understanding of how to use > rsh to access tcp sockets. Can someone post or direct me to cookbook > instructions for getting it to work? > > -- > * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * > * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 15:11:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26637; Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:11:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15052; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:58:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15036; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:58:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNT7U-000013C; Mon, 11 Jul 94 14:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthewo@infinet.com (Matthew Osborn) Subject: Uploading to PINE Date: 11 Jul 1994 20:45:15 GMT Message-Id: <2vsb0r$2mr@rigel.infinet.com> -- When I upload my ACSII file to mail to a friend, it shows up in PINE as all run together, that is, my carriage returns don't make it. I'm wondering what I'm not doing right. If I attach the file, rather than just uploading it to be sent as e-mail, will the same thing still happen? Matthew From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 16:06:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28953; Mon, 11 Jul 94 16:06:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23078; Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:49:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23072; Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:49:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNTtz-00001BC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 15:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dfredric@moose.uvm.edu (Derek R. Fredrickson) Subject: Signature File in Replies Message-Id: <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 19:43:34 GMT Hello Again.. When I use a reply message why does my signature file always end up at the top of the message? How do I change it to end up at the bottom of the reply message? -- --- Derek R. Fredrickson VOICE : (802) 656-2053 Treasurer, Student Government Association VOICE : (802) 656-7734 University of Vermont FAX : (802) 656-7719 Burlington, VT. USA E MAIL : Derek.Fredrickson@uvm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 18:26:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04040; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:26:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26178; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:14:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26172; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:14:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNW84-00001KC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 17:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schmitz@verdi.uni-duisburg.de (Peter Schmitz) Subject: Q: Pine crashes on AIX32 Date: 12 Jul 1994 00:29:44 GMT Message-Id: <2vso5o$122t@rs1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> Hello world, Tonight I compiled Pine3.89 on our RS6000 running AIX3.2 Well, everything went fine, except that I got this message when I tried to compose a message: Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". Exiting pine. Abort process (core dumped) Hmmmm, great...any suggestions? Is the solution to this problem in a FAQ? Pine looks a lot better than Elm and I just wanted to give it a try, but it won't work. Thanks for any help. -- Peter GS d-- -p+ c++ !l u++ e+(*) m+(---) s++/- n- h-- f+ g+ w+ t+ r y+(*) -- "The personal computer market is about the same size as the total potato chip market. Next year it will be about half the size of the pet food market and is fast approaching the total worldwide sales of pantyhose" -- James Finke, Pres., C= Ltd.(1982) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 18:49:11 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04610; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:49:11 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19700; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:34:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19694; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:34:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNWUC-00001SC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 18:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: woodp@zilker.net (Phil Wood) Subject: Re: Signature File in Replies Date: 11 Jul 1994 20:17:55 -0500 Message-Id: <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> References: <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> In article <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> dfredric@moose.uvm.edu (Derek R. Fredrickson) writes: >When I use a reply message why does my signature file always end up at >the top of the message? How do I change it to end up at the bottom of >the reply message? Good question! And I don't know the answer either, but I do have a 'brute force' technique that works: 1) Use Ctrl-K's to delete the .signature that PINE imports. 2) Scroll down to the bottom of your response. 3) Use Ctrl-R to import another .signature. It may not be pretty, but it works! -- | Phil Wood, Austin, TX, USA | "Illigitimus Non Carborundum" | | woodp@zilker.net | -Mark Twain | | woodp@sigscv1.scs.philips.com | | | 73717.3453@compuserve.com | http://www.zilker.net/~woodp | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 19:42:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05633; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:42:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27307; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:29:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27301; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:29:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNXIB-00001KC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mreg@panix.com (Mitch Regenbogen) Subject: Re: cancelling the saving of outgoing mail... Date: 11 Jul 1994 22:09:35 -0400 Message-Id: <2vsu0v$6b5@panix2.panix.com> References: <2us3n1$gv1@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <2vbsnc$pfu@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu> <2vqpiq$46s@dockmaster.phantom.com> Greg Clayman (gclayman@phantom.com) wrote: : matthewn@uiuc.edu wrote: : : : The correct way to do this is to, in your .pinerc, specify "" as the : : folder to save to. : : Another way is to specify /dev/null as the folder to receive sent-mail. : The Pine on my system, by default, does *not* save outgoing mail into any : sort of snet-mail floder. What is the command I have to add (or change) : to .pinerc to get Pine to do this? In your .pinerc file add the line: default-fcc=foldername where foldername is the name you want Pine to store your sent mail in. Then create a folder by that name in Pine. That should do it. -- -------------------------------------------------------------------- | Mitch Regenbogen | | | mreg@panix.com | "I like to watch." --Chauncey Gardner | | Brooklyn, New York | | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 20:00:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06080; Mon, 11 Jul 94 20:00:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20845; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:44:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20839; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:44:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNXWH-00001ZC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 19:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Frank Yao) Subject: Re: Signature File in Replies Message-Id: References: <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 02:05:56 GMT In article <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net>, Phil Wood wrote: >In article <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> dfredric@moose.uvm.edu >(Derek R. Fredrickson) writes: > >>When I use a reply message why does my signature file always end up at >>the top of the message? How do I change it to end up at the bottom of >>the reply message? > >Good question! And I don't know the answer either, but I do have a >'brute force' technique that works: > >1) Use Ctrl-K's to delete the .signature that PINE imports. > >2) Scroll down to the bottom of your response. > >3) Use Ctrl-R to import another .signature. > >It may not be pretty, but it works! I used to do that, and then I looked through my .pinerc, and added the signature-at-bottom option. - frank -- ************************************************************************** * He who will not reason, is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; * * and he who dares not is a slave -- Sir William Drummond * ************************** Frank Yao, fyao@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 20:52:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07156; Mon, 11 Jul 94 20:52:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28537; Mon, 11 Jul 94 20:45:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28531; Mon, 11 Jul 94 20:45:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNYWa-00001qC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 20:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King [Really!]) Subject: Re: ^S causes freeze-up Message-Id: <1994Jul12.012934.8101@pshrink.chi.il.us> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 01:29:34 GMT References: mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca (Michael Showers) publicly declared: >On Mon, 11 Jul 1994, Bill Campbell wrote: > >> > And is there a way to trap the ^S signal so as to protect the unsuspecting? >> > >> I don't know of any way to trap the ^S, but you can probably set ixany >> for the terminal session which will treat any character from the >> terminal as an xon to restart transmission. You may want to do this >> by putting it in the /etc/gettydefs for the terminal, or it could >> probably be put in a shell wrapper for pine. i.e. >> > >Thanks, but > >> #! /bin/sh >> STTY=`stty -g` # save current settings >> pine # execcute pine >> stty $STTY # restore settings to previous values. >> > >Tried this, no joy, same freezing occurred. Perhaps it is a local problem >with our Sun. The original poster forgot a line, specifically the one to set ixany. Actually, you probably want to set -ixon instead. That will disable XON/XOFF flow control completely. (I needed to do that to fix a similar different problem here.) #! /bin/sh STTY=`stty -g` # save current settings stty -ixon # disable XON/XOFF flow control pine # execute pine stty $STTY # restore settings to previous values. -- ------------------------------------------ "What if there were no beer?" Yep, that's about the only time I'd order a Zima, all right. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 22:05:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08607; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:05:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22818; Mon, 11 Jul 94 21:55:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22812; Mon, 11 Jul 94 21:54:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNZYo-00001xC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 21:35 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Signature File in Replies Date: 11 Jul 1994 21:14:41 -0700 Message-Id: <2vt5bh$86@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> In article <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net>, Phil Wood wrote: :In article <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> dfredric@moose.uvm.edu :(Derek R. Fredrickson) writes: : :>When I use a reply message why does my signature file always end up at :>the top of the message? How do I change it to end up at the bottom of :>the reply message? : :Good question! And I don't know the answer either, but I do have a :'brute force' technique that works: If I were the programmer who wrote the nice online help system that pine comes with I'd be tearing out handfuls of hair by now! Simply press '?' on the main menu, see the 'Configurable Features' entry, note that item 9 says 'Placement of Signature Files', page down to that item, and there is a lucid and complete explaination. Brute force has its place, but not here. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 22:54:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09618; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:54:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23520; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:41:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciao.trail.bc.ca by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23514; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:41:52 -0700 Received: from DialupEudora (NBAdmin.ciao.trail.bc.ca) by ciao (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07924; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:44:17 PDT Date: Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:44:15 PDT Message-Id: <9407120544.AA07924@ciao> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King [Really!]) From: mshowers@ciao.trail.bc.ca (Michael Showers) Subject: Re: ^S causes freeze-up Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In your message you said... >Actually, you probably want to set -ixon instead. That will disable >XON/XOFF flow control completely. (I needed to do that to fix a >similar different problem here.) > >#! /bin/sh >STTY=`stty -g` # save current settings >stty -ixon # disable XON/XOFF flow control >pine # execute pine >stty $STTY # restore settings to previous values. > and you were right. I thank you and CIAO! thanks you! /\ /\ /\ Michael Showers / \^^^/\/ /^^^^\ Technical Coordinator ^^^^^^ CIAO! Free-Net -------------------------------------------------- mshowers@CIAO.trail.bc.ca -- voice: (604) 368-2234 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 23:08:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09854; Mon, 11 Jul 94 23:08:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00497; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:59:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00491; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:59:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNaap-00002CC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Signature File in Replies Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 22:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Jul11.194334.10735@emba.uvm.edu> <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> <2vt5bh$86@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vt5bh$86@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> On 11 Jul 1994, Jim Davis wrote: > > If I were the programmer who wrote the nice online help system that > pine comes with I'd be tearing out handfuls of hair by now! > I couldn't have said it any better myself! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 11 23:09:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09895; Mon, 11 Jul 94 23:09:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23759; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:59:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23745; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:59:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNaat-00002BC; Mon, 11 Jul 94 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Q: Pine crashes on AIX32 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 22:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vso5o$122t@rs1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <2vso5o$122t@rs1-hrz.uni-duisburg.de> Try the pre-compiled executables in the mail/unix-bin directory on ftp.cac.washington.edu. Some AIX 3.2 systems have a compiler that generates bogus code for a few of the code sequences in pine.... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 12 Jul 1994, Peter Schmitz wrote: > Hello world, > > Tonight I compiled Pine3.89 on our RS6000 running AIX3.2 > Well, everything went fine, except that I got this message > when I tried to compose a message: > > Bug in Pine detected: "Received abort signal". > Exiting pine. > Abort process (core dumped) > > Hmmmm, great...any suggestions? Is the solution to this problem > in a FAQ? Pine looks a lot better than Elm and I just wanted > to give it a try, but it won't work. > > Thanks for any help. > -- > Peter > GS d-- -p+ c++ !l u++ e+(*) m+(---) s++/- n- h-- f+ g+ w+ t+ r y+(*) > -- > > "The personal computer market is about the same size as the total potato chip > market. Next year it will be about half the size of the pet food market and is > fast approaching the total worldwide sales of pantyhose" > -- James Finke, Pres., C= Ltd.(1982) > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 03:50:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15860; Tue, 12 Jul 94 03:50:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04401; Tue, 12 Jul 94 03:39:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04393; Tue, 12 Jul 94 03:39:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNew8-000006C; Tue, 12 Jul 94 03:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ez048746@dale.ucdavis.edu () Subject: newsletter sent from PINE Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 09:57:28 GMT Hi, I have a question i hope someone may be able to help me with.I do a small newsletter for my rock band and would like to put it into my computer and send it out to people on our e-mailing list on a regular basis.Maybe this is a real stupid question but how do i go about doing that thru PINE? All super-simplified tips/answers would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 07:39:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21277; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:39:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07830; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:21:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07824; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:21:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNiQf-00000DC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: PINE is not searching Date: 12 Jul 1994 07:54:06 -0600 Message-Id: <2vu79u$1ue2@auriga.unm.edu> Hi all, PINE does not search in body of message to find what you are looking for. I view this as something very easy that should have been implemented in earlier versions of pine. Will this be in the next upgrade .... ? Farid Hamjavar hamjavar@unm.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 07:48:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21535; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:48:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01668; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:35:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01661; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:35:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNiZf-00000BC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 07:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: woodp@zilker.net (Phil Wood) Subject: cmsg cancel <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> Control: cancel <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> Date: 12 Jul 1994 09:11:40 -0500 Message-Id: <2vu8as$nlv@oak.zilker.net> <2vsr03$3br@oak.zilker.net> was cancelled from within trn. -- | Phil Wood, Austin, TX, USA | "Illigitimus Non Carborundum" | | woodp@zilker.net | -Mark Twain | | woodp@sigscv1.scs.philips.com | | | 73717.3453@compuserve.com | http://www.zilker.net/~woodp | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 08:39:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23658; Tue, 12 Jul 94 08:39:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09069; Tue, 12 Jul 94 08:25:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09063; Tue, 12 Jul 94 08:25:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNjP3-000006C; Tue, 12 Jul 94 08:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ucacgcj@ucl.ac.uk (Gordon C Joly) Subject: Re: Problems with pine and xbiff : detecting incoming mail Message-Id: <1994Jul12.143459.23805@ucl.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:34:59 GMT References: <1994Jul4.123241.741@inca.comlab.ox.ac.uk> You have to look for a file that changes: e.g. with MH xbiff -file $HOME/.mail -update 30 Gordo -- Gordon Joly Phone +44 71 380 7934 FAX +44 71 387 1397 Email: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk ucacgcj@ucl.ac.uk CS, University College London, Gower Street, LONDON WC1E 6BT, UK Is Vic...? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 13:02:33 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05062; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:02:33 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08994; Tue, 12 Jul 94 12:46:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08988; Tue, 12 Jul 94 12:46:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNnSz-000006C; Tue, 12 Jul 94 12:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Evelyn Albrecht) Subject: Documentation for Pine 3.90 Message-Id: <1994Jul12.180921.5113@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 18:09:21 GMT David Miller: We're are updating our local printed Pine documentation this summer, and it looks like the rough draft is due before Pine 3.90 will be released. It is possible to get any documentation before the product is ready for release? Thank you, Evelyn -- |Evelyn Albrecht Ph: (206) 650-3239 | |Academic Computing Services Internet: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu | |Western Washington Univ. | |Bellingham, WA 98225-9094 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 13:19:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06222; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:19:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15489; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:00:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15483; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:00:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNnh8-00000DC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 12:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: duffy@cais.cais.com (Duffy Men) Subject: How to attach a binary file???? Date: 12 Jul 1994 18:16:27 GMT Message-Id: <2vumlr$4jp@sun.cais.com> I would like mail a binary file to someone. Can anyone tell me how to attach a binary file and how big the size can be? my file may be 10 Mb. Thank you?? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 13:26:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06485; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:26:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15877; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:09:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15871; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:09:38 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13972; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:09:18 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 13:09:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Farid Hamjavar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: PINE is not searching In-Reply-To: <2vu79u$1ue2@auriga.unm.edu> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Jul 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > PINE does not search in body of message > to find what you are looking for. I view this > as something very easy that should have been > implemented in earlier versions of pine. > > Will this be in the next upgrade .... ? Yes, Pine 3.90's "Select" command will allow for full text searching, including via IMAP. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 13:29:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06608; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:29:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15952; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:11:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from auriga.unm.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15938; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:11:32 -0700 Received: by auriga.unm.edu (Smail3.1.28.1 #10) id m0qNoAs-0001rrC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 14:11 MDT Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:11:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Farid Hamjavar Subject: Re: PINE is not searching To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Thanks. I'll be looking forward to that..... Farid On Tue, 12 Jul 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 13:09:17 -0700 (PDT) > From: Terry Gray > To: Farid Hamjavar > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: PINE is not searching > > > On 12 Jul 1994, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > > > PINE does not search in body of message > > to find what you are looking for. I view this > > as something very easy that should have been > > implemented in earlier versions of pine. > > > > Will this be in the next upgrade .... ? > > Yes, Pine 3.90's "Select" command will allow for full text searching, > including via IMAP. > > -teg > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 13:58:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07600; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:58:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10421; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:46:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10415; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:45:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNoQj-00000BC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 13:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nishri@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Alex Nishri) Subject: No DNS resolving with PC Pine Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 19:28:47 GMT We are using PC Pine 3.89 and Novell's LWP 4.12 TCP/IP stack. We are able to get it to work except for one problem. In the PINERC file if we specify a hostname for the inbox-path={hostname.utcc.utoronto.ca}inbox it doesn't work; instead we have to specify the IP address of our IMAP server, inbox-path=(hostip}inbox. We noted that in the INSTALL.TXT file it tells us to set the DOS variable EXCELAN=C:\NET (Unfortunately this choice of DOS variable name is not very illuminating. It took a bit of head scratching before someone realized that Excelan was the name of a company that Novell bought out many moons ago.) However, when we set EXCELAN things still didn't work. Finally, on a lark we put the hostname in C:\NET\HOST. When the EXCELAN DOS variable is now set, things finally work. So, I assume that the undocumented purpose of the EXCELAN variable is to let PC Pine find C:\NET\TCP\HOSTS so it can fish around in there instead of using the domain name resolver. Unfortunately, in a University with 70,000 people we don't want hostnames to be propagated in /etc/hosts files all over--we must use Domain Name Servers. Does anyone know how to make PC Pine 3.89 use the Novell LWP domain name resolver rather than a hosts file? Alex Nishri Network Services University of Toronto nishri@utcc.utoronto.ca From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 16:52:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14677; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:52:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14241; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:36:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14235; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:36:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNr5o-000006C; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Evelyn Albrecht) Subject: Re: Documentation for Pine 3.90 Message-Id: <1994Jul12.225329.1045@henson.cc.wwu.edu> References: <1994Jul12.180921.5113@henson.cc.wwu.edu> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 22:53:29 GMT evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Evelyn Albrecht) writes: >David Miller: > We're are updating our local printed Pine documentation this summer, /// Egads, I hope I do better with the documentation than that. (-:; -- |Evelyn Albrecht Ph: (206) 650-3239 | |Academic Computing Services Internet: evelyn@henson.cc.wwu.edu | |Western Washington Univ. | |Bellingham, WA 98225-9094 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 17:08:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15962; Tue, 12 Jul 94 17:08:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20899; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:51:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20893; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:51:14 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qNrbS-00060nC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 16:51 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA29903; Tue, 12 Jul 1994 16:00:53 -0700 Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 16:00:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: How to attach a binary file???? Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <2vumlr$4jp@sun.cais.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Jul 1994, Duffy Men wrote: > I would like mail a binary file to someone. Can anyone tell me how to > attach a binary file and how big the size can be? my file may be 10 Mb. > Thank you?? You can only attach it to someone if they have MIME capabilies. If so, then you can simply put the fully qualified filename in the ATTACHMENT section of the header. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 12 21:12:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21428; Tue, 12 Jul 94 21:12:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24708; Tue, 12 Jul 94 20:51:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24702; Tue, 12 Jul 94 20:51:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qNv4A-00000DC; Tue, 12 Jul 94 20:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sluggo@netaxs.com (Paul Gelsman) Subject: Sending files Date: 13 Jul 1994 02:49:35 GMT Message-Id: <2vvknv$9u1@netaxs.com> How do I send a file using PINE? What directory do I have to put the file in for PINE to find it? TIA. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 07:36:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07218; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:36:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28517; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:18:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28511; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:18:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO4rZ-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: geter@crl.com (Andy Gelernter) Subject: remove confirm on delete Date: 13 Jul 1994 06:48:05 -0700 Message-Id: <300ral$jja@crl2.crl.com> Hey I am wondering if there is a way to get rid of the confirm delete msg that I get as I leave a folder to go to another folder or when I quit pine. my thoughts are if i delete it then i want it deleted and the confirmation part is a hassle. thanks in advance - andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 07:42:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07490; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:42:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04281; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:23:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04275; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:23:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO4x5-00000DC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mrobinsn@finance.wharton.upenn.edu (Michael S. Robinson) Subject: Re: No DNS resolving with PC Pine Date: 13 Jul 1994 14:02:51 GMT Message-Id: <300s6b$nd0@netnews.upenn.edu> References: Sorry to say, but I had absolutely no problem. I simply modified the pinerc file to point to my server, set the EXCELAN variable to C:\NET, which is the root directory for my LWP 4.1 installation. I have NO hosts file, but a simply configured resolv.cfg which does name resolution. No problems whatsoever Mike -- +-----------------------------------------------------------+ Mike Robinson mrobinsn@wharton.upenn.edu At one point in my life I had a clear sense of direction and a great future to look forward to. College changed all that. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 08:13:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08715; Wed, 13 Jul 94 08:13:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05089; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:58:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05083; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:58:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO5Hc-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 07:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) Subject: Joe is here. Now what? Date: 13 Jul 1994 14:05:13 GMT Message-Id: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> I downloaded the editor called Joe as a tar.Z file. After bashing away at the keyboard for a while, I managed to unzip it. So now I have Joe as a tar file. Now what? I have tried install, run, joe, and lots of dumber things, but the file just sits there and takes up space. The system here is OSF/1 -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 09:13:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11824; Wed, 13 Jul 94 09:13:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00757; Wed, 13 Jul 94 08:43:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00751; Wed, 13 Jul 94 08:43:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO6Aw-00000IC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 08:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thacker@unt.edu (Mark Thacker...CWIS Coordinator) Subject: Granting UserIDS/E-mail accounts? How are you doing it? Date: 13 Jul 1994 15:20:06 GMT Message-Id: <3010n6$rht@hermes.unt.edu> I am the manager of the Campus Wide Information System here at the University of North Texas. As such, some portions of student E-mail access seem to be my responsibility. I am interested in your combined experiences in granting thousands of E-mail/USERIDs to students, faculty and staff. Since we are about to embark on a universal access/electronic application process here at UNT, any input you could provide could save us quite a bit of time. The following questions cover our primary areas of concern: 1. What procedures do students, faculty and staff go through to get an Internet mail capable E-mail/User ID? (assuming an incoming freshman who has never had access to anything like this before) 2. Is the above procedure available to students, faculty and staff that might be only on-campus on the weekends or after-hours? That is, can it be access off-campus and if so, through what means (generic anonymous application process available via modem/VT-100 based sessions?) 3. What are the qualifications for being able to get a UserID? (full time students only, academic status?) 4. Is there a comprehensive database of all eligble people that you check against when someone applies for an account? Does the database cover people that might be gone for the summer, continuing students, transitional students, part-time student employees and those on academic probation? 5. Is there any fee associated with using such accounts? If so, how is collection of these fees handled and what steps are taken if accounts are not payed? (including printing fees or generally accessed student computer use fees. i.e. how is this system payed for?) 6. Are only UNIX, VAX or IBM-class mainframe accounts available? What about Novell or AppleShare based accounts? 7. What remote access methods are available? (Generic VT-100 or SLIP/PPP/other LAN based protocal) 8. What software is provided and is it site licesed if there are SLIP/PPP/LAN protocal based access provided? 9. What method do you have of ensuring that the person filling out an electronic form for a UserID (I assume that this is the method you use) is indeed who they say they are? What athentication scheme is used? (i.e. checking into a computer lab sufficient enough?) 10. Besides the possible central database that you check against to ensure that they are a student, are the active E-mail accounts kept in an X.500 database? A CSO (Gopher) database or where? Thanks again greatly for your assistance in this matter. ========================================= Mark Thacker Thacker@unt.edu CWIS Coordinator Thacker@untvax.bitnet P.O.Box 13495 817-565-2324 Denton, TX 76203 ========================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 09:29:59 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12525; Wed, 13 Jul 94 09:29:59 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06574; Wed, 13 Jul 94 09:03:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06568; Wed, 13 Jul 94 09:03:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO6VJ-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 08:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tmorgan@sunmuw1 (Terry L. Morgan) Subject: Willow?? Date: 13 Jul 1994 15:43:54 GMT Message-Id: <30123q$1sd@Tut.MsState.Edu> I know this is the wrong group but what is Willow that is located at ftp.cac.washington.edu? Thanks From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 10:25:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15517; Wed, 13 Jul 94 10:25:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08037; Wed, 13 Jul 94 10:01:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from booz.bah.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08031; Wed, 13 Jul 94 10:01:20 -0700 Received: from smtpjii.bah.com (smtpjii.bah.com [156.80.9.162]) by booz.bah.com (8.6.8.1/8.6.6) with SMTP id MAA02205 for ; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:57:53 -0400 Received: by smtpjii.bah.com with Microsoft Mail id <2E241DA5@smtpjii.bah.com>; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:00:21 edt From: Gupta Ajay To: PINE Subject: Which Version Do I Download!? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:37:00 edt Message-Id: <2E241DA5@smtpjii.bah.com> Encoding: 10 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Hi, I'm fairly new at this game, so please bear with me! I am not sure which "flavor" of PC-Pine I should download: f, p, n, or s. I have a Dell 486 (running windows) and am on a Microsoft LAN. I want to send binary files via the internet to a party also operating a pc on a novell LAN. I take it PC-Pine can do the text-binary encode/decode for this to work. Right? Ajay From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 11:14:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17905; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:14:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09459; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:02:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09453; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:02:39 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00247; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:02:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 11:02:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: "Terry L. Morgan" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Willow?? In-Reply-To: <30123q$1sd@Tut.MsState.Edu> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 13 Jul 1994, Terry L. Morgan wrote: > I know this is the wrong group but what is Willow that is located at > ftp.cac.washington.edu? Willow is the "Washington Information Looker-upper Layered Over Windows" It is an X-Mosaic general purpose information retrieval tool that UW developed as a front-end to our library databases. For more info, see http://www.cac.washington.edu/willow -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 11:43:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18863; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:43:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09890; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:24:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09884; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:24:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO8gb-00000LC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 11:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: acs_nistler@kinni.acc.uwrf.edu Subject: Guide to using Pine? Message-Id: <1994Jul13.122153.4885@rivers> Date: 13 Jul 94 12:21:53 -0600 Hi all, I was wondering if anybody has created a document on thier campus that explains what Pine is and what some of the basic commands are. The reason I am asking is we are trying to have everybody on our system (VAX/VMS, Unix, PC's) to use Pine for email. Hopefully this will create less confusion. We started to create a sample document, but wanted to look at others that may have already been created. I did ftp to ftp.cac.washington.edu to see if there was anything there and retrieved the pine.blurb and found that useful, but still would like to see any others that may exist. Please email me directly with any examples. Thanks, Joan M. Nistler ------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- | Joan M. Nistler | | | send email to: Joan.M.Nistler@uwrf.edu | Attempting to be an educator of | | UW-River Falls Undergraduate | others, while learning more | | Secondary Ed. : Math and Computer Science | myself. | | | | ------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 12:39:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20909; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:39:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06263; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:25:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06257; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:25:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qO9eD-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 12:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clusena@TrentU.CA (CHRIS LUSENA) Subject: folders on remote machines Message-Id: <1994Jul13.183706.28276@blaze.trentu.ca> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 18:37:06 GMT I am currently trying to us folders on remote machines, and I am wondering if there is any way to get pine to automating log you in i.e. just give your name and password instead on prompting you for it, when you open that folder. thank in advance --Chris (Warning this is a copyrighted SIG, any reproduction or retransmition without the express written permission of CLusena@TrentU.Ca is strictly prohibited) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 13:48:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24467; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:48:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07945; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:34:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07939; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:34:37 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA20225; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:33:28 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA05856; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:32:35 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA17430; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:33:03 -0500 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 15:33:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: Joe is here. Now what? To: Dan Ford Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 13 Jul 1994, Dan Ford wrote: > > I downloaded the editor called Joe as a tar.Z file. After bashing away at > the keyboard for a while, I managed to unzip it. So now I have Joe as a > tar file. Now what? I have tried install, run, joe, and lots of dumber > things, but the file just sits there and takes up space. > > The system here is OSF/1 > -- > - Dan Dan, I am assuming the original file was named joe.tar.Z or something close. The steps you need to follow are: uncompress joe.tar.Z This will uncompress the file and leave it as joe.tar tar xf joe.tar This will un-tar the file to produce whatever was tar'd. Generally, at this point, you will need to compile and link the files to generate the executables. I don't know anything about 'joe' so excuse the vagueness. Included in the un-tar'd files will probably be some type of documentation(e.g. Makefile, Configure, README) on how to create the executables. Hope this helps, |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Kenny Wickstrom | Breaking S/W is FUN | | |wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com | (708)940-9000 x2349 | | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 14:06:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25168; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:06:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08462; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:54:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08454; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:54:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOB4D-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) Subject: Re: Guide to using Pine? Message-Id: Date: 13 Jul 94 20:11:08 GMT References: <1994Jul13.122153.4885@rivers> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1994Jul13.122153.4885@rivers> There is a document that was written for the UW Uniform Access systems that might be useful. It is available from ftp.u.washington.edu in the pub/doc/uniform directory. The file is GetStartPine.ps. |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 13 Jul 1994 acs_nistler@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu wrote: > Hi all, > > I was wondering if anybody has created a document on thier campus that > explains what Pine is and what some of the basic commands are. The reason I am > asking is we are trying to have everybody on our system (VAX/VMS, Unix, PC's) > to use Pine for email. Hopefully this will create less confusion. > We started to create a sample document, but wanted to look at others > that may have already been created. I did ftp to ftp.cac.washington.edu to see > if there was anything there and retrieved the pine.blurb and found that useful, > but still would like to see any others that may exist. > Please email me directly with any examples. > > Thanks, > Joan M. Nistler > > ------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > | Joan M. Nistler | | > | send email to: Joan.M.Nistler@uwrf.edu | Attempting to be an educator of | > | UW-River Falls Undergraduate | others, while learning more | > | Secondary Ed. : Math and Computer Science | myself. | > | | | > ------------------------------------------- --------------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 14:24:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25883; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:24:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13870; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:14:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13864; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:14:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOBKy-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 13:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) Subject: Re: Joe is here. Now what? Message-Id: <301j3n$7p9@mozz.unh.edu> Date: 13 Jul 94 20:33:59 GMT References: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> Thanks to everyone who answered my question. I was indeed able to "tar" my joe.tar archive, or untar it I guess, but I ran out of space on my disk before it finished. Thus endeth my adventure in creative editing. I am resigned to using Pico. -- - Dan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 14:48:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26646; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:48:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14428; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:39:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netcom.netcom.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14422; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:39:02 -0700 Received: by netcom (8.6.8.1/Netcom) id MAA14939; Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:36:56 -0700 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 12:36:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Schow-Backstage Productions Subject: How do I attach to news? To: Pine Info Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, I am trying to figure out how to attach to a local news feed with pine. Anyone know. I know the directory where our local news feed is, so I shouldn't need to worry about a domain name/nntp.....right? How do I do it? Thanks in advnace ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 14:52:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26766; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:52:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09564; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:44:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09558; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:44:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOBp0-00000MC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 14:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: caldwell@xi.cs.fsu.edu (James H Caldwell Jr) Subject: Request for FAQ location Message-Id: <301knr$ic8@mailer.fsu.edu> Date: 13 Jul 94 21:01:47 GMT Could someone please direct me to a FAQ on Pine (and/or PC Pine) before I say something truly flame worthy on this group. Thanks in advance. -- James Caldwell Jr. (caldwell@cs.fsu.edu) (caldwell@scri.fsu.edu) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 15:35:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28743; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:35:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15290; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:19:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15284; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:19:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOCO0-00000DC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 15:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: noel@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Noel Hunter) Subject: Re: Granting UserIDS/E-mail accounts? How are you doing it? Date: 13 Jul 1994 21:35:12 GMT Message-Id: <301mmg$l70@eis.wfunet.wfu.edu> References: <3010n6$rht@hermes.unt.edu> Mark Thacker...CWIS Coordinator (thacker@unt.edu) wrote: : 1. What procedures do students, faculty and staff go through to get an : Internet mail capable E-mail/User ID? (assuming an incoming freshman : who has never had access to anything like this before) We found it easiest to create logins for everyone, rather than on the fly. Students pick up logins at out help desk. The logins are printed on carbon forms so that the password is concealed until the form is opened. : 2. Is the above procedure available to students, faculty and staff that : might be only on-campus on the weekends or after-hours? That is, can : it be access off-campus and if so, through what means (generic : anonymous application process available via modem/VT-100 based : sessions?) We require them to come in and present an ID, then sign a user agreement. : 3. What are the qualifications for being able to get a UserID? (full : time students only, academic status?) Anyone enrolled. : 4. Is there a comprehensive database of all eligble people that you : check against when someone applies for an account? Does the database : cover people that might be gone for the summer, continuing students, : transitional students, part-time student employees and those on : academic probation? We access the student database to verify enrollment. We enter the logins into the database, and generate automatic delete requests when students leave. : 5. Is there any fee associated with using such accounts? If so, how is : collection of these fees handled and what steps are taken if accounts : are not payed? (including printing fees or generally accessed student : computer use fees. i.e. how is this system payed for?) No fee. : 6. Are only UNIX, VAX or IBM-class mainframe accounts available? What : about Novell or AppleShare based accounts? We use PCNFS and Cayman GatorBoxes to access the Unix password files. : 7. What remote access methods are available? (Generic VT-100 or : SLIP/PPP/other LAN based protocal) All of the above. : 8. What software is provided and is it site licesed if there are : SLIP/PPP/LAN protocal based access provided? We use Sassafras Keyserver, which provides IP based license control for Mac and Windows. : 9. What method do you have of ensuring that the person filling out an : electronic form for a UserID (I assume that this is the method you use) : is indeed who they say they are? What athentication scheme is used? : (i.e. checking into a computer lab sufficient enough?) Photo ID or registration slip is required. : 10. Besides the possible central database that you check against to : ensure that they are a student, are the active E-mail accounts kept in : an X.500 database? A CSO (Gopher) database or where? We use a CSO database. -- * Noel Hunter, Academic Systems Administrator, Wake Forest University * * email: noel@wfu.edu http://www.wfu.edu/~noel * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 16:44:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01548; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:44:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12034; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:34:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12028; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:34:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qODW8-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 16:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How do I attach to news? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 15:59:58 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine currently assumes that your newsfeed is located in /usr/spool/news and the active file is in /usr/lib/news/active. If that is the case, news-collections=News *[] should work. If not, you might be better off using nntp... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Wed, 13 Jul 1994, Steve Schow-Backstage Productions wrote: > > Hi all, > > I am trying to figure out how to attach to a local news feed with pine. > Anyone know. I know the directory where our local news feed is, so I > shouldn't need to worry about a domain name/nntp.....right? How do I do it? > > Thanks in advnace > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 17:44:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04336; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:44:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18454; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:34:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18448; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:34:42 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA13804; Thu, 14 Jul 94 08:35:17 +0800 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 08:35:15 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: How to spawn from Pine? To: hughes@hulaw1.harvard.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Jul11.115224.33461@hulaw1.harvard.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 11 Jul 1994 hughes@hulaw1.harvard.edu wrote: > Is there a way (other than using postpone (^O) and quitting), > to interrupt Pine, drop to the operating system (spawn), do > something there, and then exit back to Pine? > Well, since I'm running csh, I can do a ctrl-z and put pine in the background. When I'm done with what I wanted to do I use fg to bring pine back. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 17:50:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04514; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:50:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18558; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:39:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18552; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:39:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOEWl-00000HC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 17:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: efalls%albnyvms.BITNET@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu Subject: Pine executables Date: 13 Jul 1994 19:40:26 GMT Message-Id: <301fva$1q8@rebecca.albany.edu> This is a question about the pine executables. I tried to compile Pine for Solaris and have some fatal errors which I am trying to work out. I won't post them all there since the errors and warnings are so long. However, after compile trouble, I decided to try to /mail/unix-bin solaris executables. When I try to run these I get Execution Permission Denied messages. To David: I apologize for originally sending this identical question to your direct mail box. I did that before I read your post that you much prefer questions to to be directed here or to FTP bugs at cac washington edu. Thanks for your patience Ellen Ellen Falls | As I gazed into the darkness Computer Information Services | I saw myself as a creature The Sage Colleges | driven and derided by vanity, 45 Ferry Street | and my eyes burned with Troy, New York 12180-4115 | anguish and anger. | efalls@uacsc1.albany.edu | - James Joyce (518) 270-2354 | Dubliners From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 19:42:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06995; Wed, 13 Jul 94 19:42:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15447; Wed, 13 Jul 94 19:34:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15441; Wed, 13 Jul 94 19:34:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOGMw-00000LC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 19:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sysman1@un.seqeb.gov.au (The Fantom Ferret) Subject: Re: Joe is here. Now what? Message-Id: References: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 00:47:44 GMT Kenny Wickstrom wrote: |On 13 Jul 1994, Dan Ford wrote: |> |> I downloaded the editor called Joe as a tar.Z file. After bashing away at |> the keyboard for a while, I managed to unzip it. So now I have Joe as a |> tar file. Now what? I have tried install, run, joe, and lots of dumber |> things, but the file just sits there and takes up space. |> |> The system here is OSF/1 |> -- |> - Dan |Dan, |I am assuming the original file was named joe.tar.Z or something close. |The steps you need to follow are: | uncompress joe.tar.Z | This will uncompress the file and leave it as joe.tar | tar xf joe.tar | This will un-tar the file to produce whatever was tar'd. |Generally, at this point, you will need to compile and link the files to |generate the executables. I don't know anything about 'joe' so excuse |the vagueness. Included in the un-tar'd files will probably be some type |of documentation(e.g. Makefile, Configure, README) on how to create the |executables. Unless you got JOE 1.09, it won't build on OSF/1. -- Graeme Wightman (GW211) - System Support Email: ferret@fuzzy.seqeb.gov.au South East Queensland Electricity Board Fax: +61 7 2217556 GPO Box 1461, Brisbane 4001 AUSTRALIA Phone: +61 7 2234150 <<< GOD is REAL .... unless declared INTEGER >>> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 20:22:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07642; Wed, 13 Jul 94 20:22:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16079; Wed, 13 Jul 94 20:16:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16073; Wed, 13 Jul 94 20:16:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOGzk-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 19:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bobinberea@aol.com (BobinBerea) Subject: Re: Uploading to PINE Date: 13 Jul 1994 21:49:01 -0400 Message-Id: <3025id$muf@search01.news.aol.com> References: <2vsb0r$2mr@rigel.infinet.com> In article <2vsb0r$2mr@rigel.infinet.com>, matthewo@infinet.com (Matthew Osborn) writes: > When I upload my ACSII file to mail to a friend, it shows up in PINE as > all run together, that is, my carriage returns don't make it. > I'm wondering what I'm not doing right. Curious---I have the very same problem; didn't used to, with other email programs. Is there something in Pine that causes this problem? Uploading an ASCII file gags the email message; sometimes just copying and pasting a brief chunk of text makes it gag. Any clues, anyone? Bob Fowler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 21:05:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08355; Wed, 13 Jul 94 21:05:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21556; Wed, 13 Jul 94 20:56:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21550; Wed, 13 Jul 94 20:55:54 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA16953; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:56:27 +0800 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:56:26 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Uploading to PINE To: BobinBerea Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <3025id$muf@search01.news.aol.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On 13 Jul 1994, BobinBerea wrote: > In article <2vsb0r$2mr@rigel.infinet.com>, matthewo@infinet.com (Matthew > Osborn) writes: > > > When I upload my ACSII file to mail to a friend, it shows up in PINE as > > all run together, that is, my carriage returns don't make it. > > I'm wondering what I'm not doing right. > > Curious---I have the very same problem; didn't used to, with other email > programs. Is there something in Pine that causes this problem? Uploading > an ASCII file gags the email message; sometimes just copying and pasting a > brief chunk of text makes it gag. Any clues, anyone? Clue #1 Be more specific about your operating environment. What do you mean by "upload my ACSII file"? What type of terminal emulation software are you using? Are you using a direct async connection? Are you using TCP/IP? What TCP/IP software are you using? Answers to questions can be more readily obtained....and you are more likely to get help....if you *completely* define your problem. Bottom line....don't be vague. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 13 22:38:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09958; Wed, 13 Jul 94 22:38:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17943; Wed, 13 Jul 94 22:30:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17937; Wed, 13 Jul 94 22:30:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOJ5c-00000BC; Wed, 13 Jul 94 22:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Request for FAQ location Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 22:09:49 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <301knr$ic8@mailer.fsu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <301knr$ic8@mailer.fsu.edu> The Pine FAQ is not yet available. I promise not to flame you unless the question has been asked and answered twice in the last week ;) |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 13 Jul 1994, James H Caldwell Jr wrote: > > Could someone please direct me to a FAQ on Pine (and/or PC Pine) > before I say something truly flame worthy on this group. > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > James Caldwell Jr. > (caldwell@cs.fsu.edu) > (caldwell@scri.fsu.edu) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 03:08:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15849; Thu, 14 Jul 94 03:08:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26677; Thu, 14 Jul 94 03:00:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26670; Thu, 14 Jul 94 03:00:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qONIT-000006C; Thu, 14 Jul 94 02:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ypelletier@cid.aes.doe.ca (Yves Pelletier) Subject: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 20:26:47 GMT Thanks to procmail and pine, my incoming mail now gets sorted into separate inboxes, depending on what the message is about, where it came from, etc. The only problem is that now I only get paged when new mail comes into the _default_ mailbox; but I also would like to be alerted when mail comes into some of my other incoming folders. I suppose I could have a separate xbiff for each mailbox, but that doesn't strike me as very elegant, and it would clutter my desktop. Is there a simple, automatic way to check more than one mailbox for incoming mail? Thanks Yves -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Yves Pelletier ypelletier@cmc.aes.doe.ca Section analyse et pronostic Centre Meteorologique Canadien Not a CMC spokesman ********************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 05:01:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18628; Thu, 14 Jul 94 05:01:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23658; Thu, 14 Jul 94 04:50:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23652; Thu, 14 Jul 94 04:50:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOP0y-000006C; Thu, 14 Jul 94 04:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steve@cg57.esnet.com (Steve Froeschke) Subject: Pine 3.89 under Interactive Unix 4.01 Date: 13 Jul 1994 15:57:22 -0700 Message-Id: <301rgi$pn0@cg57.esnet.com> Has anyone been able to build Pine 3.89 under Interactive? If so, what hoops did you have to jump through to get it to build? Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Steve -- Internet: steve@cg57.esnet.com / stevef@netcom.com / stevef@crash.cts.com UUCP: ...nosc!cg57!steve / ...netcom!stevef / ...crash!cg57!steve Fidonet: f217.n202.z1.fidonet.org!Steve.Froeschke From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 07:39:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22491; Thu, 14 Jul 94 07:39:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00859; Thu, 14 Jul 94 07:25:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00853; Thu, 14 Jul 94 07:25:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qORQI-00000IC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 07:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: NN + Pico -How to get cursor to start at beginning of text Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:21:45 GMT Message-Id: <303e59$pn0@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <2vvai8$k3v@w8hd.w8hd.org> kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan) writes: >How can NN be configured to cause the cursor to be placed at the starting point >of text entry (not at the top of page in the header) I don't know how to do this with pico but maybe the folks in comp.mail.pine or comp.editors know... >and also not ask for y/n on >exiting. > >If its possible, it would also be nice to cause it to write out the file >and not ask for verification of the file name to write. For these you can use pico with the -t flag (tool mode), i.e., for nn put the following in ~/.nn/init set editor pico -t Or if you're using csh (or one of its relatives) you can put these two lines in your .login: setenv EDITOR 'pico -t' setenv VISUAL $EDITOR Hope this helps, Nancy -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 08:20:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23919; Thu, 14 Jul 94 08:20:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26982; Thu, 14 Jul 94 08:11:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26976; Thu, 14 Jul 94 08:11:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOSBU-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 07:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dmoore@umich.edu (David M. Moore) Subject: PC-Pine Low Memory Error Date: 14 Jul 1994 14:37:07 GMT Message-Id: <303iij$dm1@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Can PC-Pine make use of expanded or extended memory? Frequently, when I try to forward a large message (20K+) PC-Pine "dies." Any thoughts? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 09:21:14 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27856; Thu, 14 Jul 94 09:21:14 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28853; Thu, 14 Jul 94 09:07:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28835; Thu, 14 Jul 94 09:07:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOT0g-000006C; Thu, 14 Jul 94 08:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Date: 14 Jul 1994 08:21:03 -0700 Message-Id: <303l4v$o6@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: In article , Yves Pelletier wrote: :Is there a simple, automatic way to check more than one mailbox :for incoming mail? The Korn shell and recent versions of the Bourne shell support MAILPATH and MAILCHECK environment variables that let you poll multiple mailboxes at specified intervals. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 10:14:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00255; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:14:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00314; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:01:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00308; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:01:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOTsk-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 09:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grh@ccinet.ab.ca Subject: dos pine mail detect Date: 14 Jul 1994 16:05:03 GMT Message-Id: <303nnf$edj@finzi.ccinet.ab.ca> We have just installed dos pine with pine getting mail from a unix server through IMAP. We are just wondering if there is a way for the DOS machines to be notified if there is new mail without going into pine. Thanks -- Quinn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 10:38:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01143; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:38:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05611; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:20:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05603; Thu, 14 Jul 94 10:20:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOU7L-00000HC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 09:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Message-Id: <1994Jul14.153816.7540@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> References: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 15:38:16 GMT In article , Yves Pelletier wrote: > > The only problem is that now I only get paged when new mail > comes into the _default_ mailbox; but I also would like to be alerted > when mail comes into some of my other incoming folders. I suppose > I could have a separate xbiff for each mailbox, but that doesn't > strike me as very elegant, and it would clutter my desktop. > > Is there a simple, automatic way to check more than one mailbox > for incoming mail? > Most shells allow you to specify a list of files to be checked for new mail. In sh, ksh or bash you can set a colon seperated list of files in the environment variable MAILPATH. Csh has something similar, I forget the details. Check the man page for your favourite shell. Regards, -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Neil Hoggarth Computer Officer, Laboratory of Physiology Oxford University, UK --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 11:45:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04052; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:45:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02384; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:31:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02378; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:31:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOVGF-000006C; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jcollins@servtech.com (justin collins) Subject: Errors While Compiling Pine for Unixware 1.1.1 Date: 14 Jul 1994 13:31:19 -0400 Message-Id: HELP ME!!!!! I am trying to build pine for Unixware 1.1.1 and I keep getting the following error. I tried to find the syntax errors in the code but even retyping it didn't work (I do know C, and I could not find anything wrong). --------- /usr/ccs/bin/cc -DSV4 -g -DDEBUG -c folder.c UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1023: warning: semantics of ">" change in AN SI C; use explicit cast UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1434: newline in string literal UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1435: Syntax error before or at: if UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1453: Syntax error before or at: else UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1455: warning: declaration missing specifier s: assuming "int" UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1455: identifier redeclared: q_status_message2 UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1455: warning: function prototype parameters must have types UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1455: warning: declaration missing specifier s: assuming "int" UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1455: identifier redeclared: pretty_fn UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1455: Syntax error before or at: ) UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1455: warning: syntax error: empty declarat ion UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1457: Syntax error before or at: = UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1457: Syntax error before or at: -> UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1457: warning: parameter mismatch: 2 declare d, 0 defined UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1458: Syntax error before or at: -> UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1458: warning: declaration missing specifier s: assuming "int" UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1458: identifier redeclared: folder_delete UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1462: syntax error, probably missing ",", ";" or "=" UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1464: undefined symbol: new_foldername UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1464: undefined symbol: cntxt UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1464: warning: improper pointer/integer comb ination: arg #1 UX:acomp: WARNING: "folder.c", line 1464: warning: improper pointer/integer comb ination: arg #2 UX:acomp: ERROR: "folder.c", line 1465: cannot recover from previous errors *** Error code 1 (bu21) make: fatal error. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: cannot open bin/mtest: 145425 + 19952 + 4184 = 169561 bin/imapd: 144317 + 20288 + 12188 = 176793 bin/pico: 94161 + 25216 + 24068 = 143445 Done ----------- any ideas? -justin m. collins From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 12:06:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05073; Thu, 14 Jul 94 12:06:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03074; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:56:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03068; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:56:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOVfr-00000HC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: NN + Pico -How to get cursor to start at beginning of text Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <2vvai8$k3v@w8hd.w8hd.org> <303e59$pn0@nwfocus.wa.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <303e59$pn0@nwfocus.wa.com> You can use the +nn flag to pico to specify what line to position the cursor to, but it does not know how to parse for the end of the headers. E.g. pico +11 file will open file and position the cursor to line 11. I will leave it to the NN experts to give the aqppropriate magic to compute "+11"... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 14 Jul 1994, Nancy McGough wrote: > kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan) writes: > >How can NN be configured to cause the cursor to be placed at the starting point > >of text entry (not at the top of page in the header) > > I don't know how to do this with pico but maybe the folks in comp.mail.pine > or comp.editors know... > > > >and also not ask for y/n on > >exiting. > > > >If its possible, it would also be nice to cause it to write out the file > >and not ask for verification of the file name to write. > > For these you can use pico with the -t flag (tool mode), i.e., for nn put > the following in ~/.nn/init > > set editor pico -t > > Or if you're using csh (or one of its relatives) you can put these two > lines in your .login: > > setenv EDITOR 'pico -t' > setenv VISUAL $EDITOR > > > Hope this helps, > Nancy > > -- > Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 12:08:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05194; Thu, 14 Jul 94 12:08:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08040; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:56:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08034; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:56:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOVfp-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 11:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: black@csulb.edu (Matthew Black) Subject: pine3.89 for IRIX locks when opening folders Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 11:18:03 Message-Id: I just installed Pine 3.89 on my Silicon Graphics system running IRIX 5.2. When running pine, it creates two default folders saved-messages sent-mail If I try to open either of these two empty folders, pine hangs. Yes, the folders are not on the local hard disk, but are accessed from and NFS file server. I read some recent posts about using IMAP. However, these didn't give many details. How can I correct this problem? ============================================================================== matthew black, systems analyst | The opinions expressed herein are mine and california state university | don't necessarily reflect those my employer. cecs department | long beach, ca 90840 | email: black@csulb.edu ===============================(c) 1994 by Matthew Black, all rights reserved= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 14:22:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10533; Thu, 14 Jul 94 14:22:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11157; Thu, 14 Jul 94 14:11:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11151; Thu, 14 Jul 94 14:11:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOXm7-000006C; Thu, 14 Jul 94 13:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pthirose@nachos.engr.ucdavis.edu (Paul Hirose) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Message-Id: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 19:30:52 GMT ypelletier@cid.aes.doe.ca (Yves Pelletier) writes: >Is there a simple, automatic way to check more than one mailbox >for incoming mail? In various Bourne-shell derivatives, there is a mailpath environment variable. In various csh derivatives, there is a mail shell variable. But ince you mentined xbiff, there was a program posted to one of the .sources newsgroups a few weeks ago, called "xmultibiff" which is a xbiff that can do more than one mail-folder. It can also beep you when news-articles arrive and all sorts of other stuff. You might want to try and see if you can find that program too. PH -- I do not speak for for UC Davis, Academic Computing Services, or anyone else. Paul Hirose pthirose@engr.ucdavis.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 16:23:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15024; Thu, 14 Jul 94 16:23:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13889; Thu, 14 Jul 94 16:13:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13883; Thu, 14 Jul 94 16:13:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOZRi-00000eC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 15:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: umchrus0@cc.umanitoba.ca (Bruce David Chrustie) Subject: Re: Joe is here. Now what? Date: 14 Jul 1994 21:09:58 GMT Message-Id: <3049j6$4kt@canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca> References: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> In article <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu> df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) writes: > >I downloaded the editor called Joe as a tar.Z file. After bashing away at >the keyboard for a while, I managed to unzip it. So now I have Joe as a >tar file. Now what? I have tried install, run, joe, and lots of dumber >things, but the file just sits there and takes up space. > you have to untar it, (paint thinner, solvent, etc.) or you could use 'tar -xvf joe.tar' that would be easiest, I guess and you should find your joe executable somewhere if it doesn't work, let me know bruce From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 17:38:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18522; Thu, 14 Jul 94 17:38:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15913; Thu, 14 Jul 94 17:27:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15907; Thu, 14 Jul 94 17:27:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOaoB-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 17:07 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: savundar@hdss46 (P Savundararaj) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Date: 14 Jul 1994 18:50:01 GMT Message-Id: <3041cp$7rt@sndsu1.sinet.slb.com> References: There is an application called "xmultibiff" which allows one to do this. I think I got it from ftp.x.org -- Philip M. Savundararaj email: savundar@houston.wireline.slb.com Schlumberger Well Services Phone: (713) 928 - 4123 Houston, Texas, USA. FAX: (713) 928 - 4344 ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 18:39:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19677; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:39:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11563; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:32:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11557; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:32:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qObrX-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:14 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afsfpel@cidsv07.cid.aes.doe.ca (Yves Pelletier) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Message-Id: Date: 14 Jul 94 20:50:45 GMT References: <303l4v$o6@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> In article <303l4v$o6@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU>, jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) writes: |> In article , |> Yves Pelletier wrote: |> |> :Is there a simple, automatic way to check more than one mailbox |> :for incoming mail? |> |> The Korn shell and recent versions of the Bourne shell support MAILPATH |> and MAILCHECK environment variables that let you poll multiple mailboxes |> at specified intervals. |> Thanks. That's exactly what I was looking for. Our system defaults to csh, though. Minor bummer... I'll have to switch shells to get what I want. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Yves Pelletier ypelletier@cmc.aes.doe.ca Section analyse et pronostic Centre Meteorologique Canadien Not a CMC spokesman ********************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 19:01:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20114; Thu, 14 Jul 94 19:01:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17193; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:52:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17187; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:52:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOcA7-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 18:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: afsfpel@cidsv07.cid.aes.doe.ca (Yves Pelletier) Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox Message-Id: References: <1994Jul14.153816.7540@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 1994 22:07:56 GMT In article <1994Jul14.153816.7540@huxley.physiol.ox.ac.uk>, njh@physiol.ox.ac.uk (Neil Hoggarth) writes: |> Most shells allow you to specify a list of files to be checked for new |> mail. In sh, ksh or bash you can set a colon seperated list of files in |> the environment variable MAILPATH. Csh has something similar, I forget |> the details. Check the man page for your favourite shell. |> Neil, You are right, of course. I just checked: the C shell allows multiple files to be listed in the "mail" variable. For instance: set mail=(/users/yves/mail/default /users/yves/mail/wx-talk /users/yves/mail/op-met) I hope I got that right... -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Yves Pelletier ypelletier@cmc.aes.doe.ca Section analyse et pronostic Centre Meteorologique Canadien Not a CMC spokesman ********************************************************************* From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 21:47:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23122; Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:47:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14389; Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:37:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14383; Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:37:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOej8-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 21:18 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: toms@cais.cais.com (Tom Strickland Jr) Subject: Re: Errors While Compiling Pine for Unixware 1.1.1 Date: 15 Jul 1994 04:02:32 GMT Message-Id: <3051oo$o7u@sun.cais.com> References: justin collins (jcollins@servtech.com) wrote: : HELP ME!!!!! : I am trying to build pine for Unixware 1.1.1 and I keep getting the : following error. I tried to find the syntax errors in the code but : even retyping it didn't work (I do know C, and I could not find : anything wrong). : any ideas? Pine on Unixware Summary How to compile: Make the following changes to the pine/osdep/os-sv4.h file: 1. remove the comment on the line that has #define ANSI 2. comment out the line that defines const (#define const ) 3. change the line for sendmail location to /usr/ucblib/sendmail 4. Change the defines so that pine/pico will use TERMINFO instead of TERMCAP. 5. USE the BUILD script build sv4 trying to make pine alone does not work well. 6. move the binaries and give proper permissions. Other Notes: While you are in the os-sv4.h file check to make sure this is setup the way you want it. I am still using the default mail setup with unixware and I did make the change on page 8 of the unixware release notes (ie add -r). SYSTEM: unixware version 1.1 installed from cd with SDK and TCP/IP, but nothing special. So hope this helps the others who sent mail and asked to report my results. Thanks to those a who helped! The only other note I have to add is this: I cant remember if I used gcc or the SDK to compile, but I think is was SDK. Clean the distribution before you compile. I have found it best to build the entire set from the begining. I think make clean will clean up for you, but I have compiled to many things inthe last couple weeks I cant remember. Good luck. BTW, gcc installs easily, you just ahve to follow all the steps. -- toms@cais.com Computer advice is free. As long as it doesn't cost anything. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 22:23:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23691; Thu, 14 Jul 94 22:23:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14977; Thu, 14 Jul 94 22:19:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14971; Thu, 14 Jul 94 22:19:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOfOB-00000DC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 22:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thang@mickey.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Thang M Nguyen) Subject: [HELP] Folder locking mechanism Message-Id: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 04:39:00 GMT Hello, I am needing help on how the folder locking mechanism works within PINE. I would like to know what does pine has to go through in order to do the folder locking. In other words, what is the algorithm/procedures of the locking mechanism. If any of you out there know about this problem, can you email to me or post on this newsgroup. I am very appreciate it. Thank you. --thang From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 14 23:52:02 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25418; Thu, 14 Jul 94 23:52:02 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16289; Thu, 14 Jul 94 23:43:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16283; Thu, 14 Jul 94 23:43:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOgi8-00000HC; Thu, 14 Jul 94 23:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: [HELP] Folder locking mechanism Date: 14 Jul 1994 23:08:34 -0700 Message-Id: <305952$26p@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: In article , Thang M Nguyen wrote: :Hello, : :I am needing help on how the folder locking mechanism works within PINE. :I would like to know what does pine has to go through in order to do the :folder locking. In other words, what is the algorithm/procedures of the :locking mechanism. You have the source (or can fetch it from ftp.cac.washington.edu); if you're in a hurry then a tool like trace or truss can give some hints. For instance, I ran 'truss -topen pine' and here's (part of) the output. In that session, I saved a message from my inbox to the saved-messages folder. It looks like on my system, pine uses a lock file. (That might well be system dependent.) open("/var/mail/jdavis.lock", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0666) = 6 open("/var/mail/jdavis", O_RDWR, 0) = 6 open("/home/jdavis/mail/saved-messages", O_RDONLY, 0) = 6 open("/home/jdavis/mail/saved-messages", O_RDONLY, 0) = 6 open("/home/jdavis/mail/saved-messages.lock", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0666) = 6 open("/home/jdavis/mail/saved-messages", O_WRONLY|O_APPEND|O_CREAT, 0600) = 6 open("/var/mail/jdavis.lock", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0666) = 6 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 15 02:39:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28860; Fri, 15 Jul 94 02:39:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23913; Fri, 15 Jul 94 02:30:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23907; Fri, 15 Jul 94 02:30:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOjGg-00000WC; Fri, 15 Jul 94 02:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcfong@hkusub ([ Marlboro | PC ] 8D) Subject: Re: How to attach a binary file???? Message-Id: References: <2vumlr$4jp@sun.cais.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 08:39:04 GMT Duffy Men (duffy@cais.cais.com) wrote: : I would like mail a binary file to someone. Can anyone tell me how to : attach a binary file and how big the size can be? my file may be 10 Mb. Write a mail to your friend. On the header line "Attachment:", press "Control-J". You'll then be prompted for a filename and you can write short description of this file as attached with your mail. Mind the file size of 10MB. Though your account can hold it, your friend's may not. You may want to compress it before attaching it to the mail. Common compression programs like PKZIP/LHA/GZIP may help. Of course you friend shoud have a copy of the same compression program to be able to decompress the file. -- Marlboro Fong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 15 03:57:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00496; Fri, 15 Jul 94 03:57:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24788; Fri, 15 Jul 94 03:34:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciup1.ncc.up.pt by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24782; Fri, 15 Jul 94 03:33:45 -0700 Received: from rosa.esb.ucp.pt by ciup1.ncc.up.pt with SMTP id AA05259 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Fri, 15 Jul 1994 11:33:30 +0100 Received: by rosa.esb.ucp.pt id AA18496 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4); Fri, 15 Jul 1994 12:32:17 +0200 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 12:32:16 +0100 From: John Cullen Reply-To: John Cullen Subject: Re: How to attach a binary file???? To: pcfong%hkusub@mx2.cac.washington.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII On Fri, 15 Jul 1994 pcfong%hkusub@mx2.cac.washington.edu wrote: > Duffy Men (duffy@cais.cais.com) wrote: > : I would like mail a binary file to someone. Can anyone tell me how to > : attach a binary file and how big the size can be? my file may be 10 Mb. ... > Mind the file size of 10MB. Though your account can hold it, > your friend's may not. You may want to compress it before attaching it ... Be aware too, that even if your account can hold a file of that size, and your friend's account can also, the same may not be true of the intermediary mail systems between your two sites! For example, mail from colleagues of mine in the UK is limited by the gateway (nsfnet-relay) to 500K messages, even though they could send 10Mb, and I could (technically) receive! You may want to check out a program to split the file into pieces, eg. the GNU split program will work on both byte and line counts. > Marlboro Fong > pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk Hope this helps, John. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Escola Superior de Biotecnologia | Email: J.Cullen@esb.ucp.pt Universidade Catolica Portuguesa | Phone: +351 2 558 0073 Rua Dr. Antonio Bernadino de Almeida | Fax: +351 2 590 351 4200 PORTO | Portugal | #include From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 15 11:45:32 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16416; Fri, 15 Jul 94 11:45:32 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04004; Fri, 15 Jul 94 11:05:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mercury.bih.harvard.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03984; Fri, 15 Jul 94 11:04:58 -0700 Received: (from root@localhost) by BIH Mail Handler (8.6.9/8.6.7) id OAA29255; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 14:06:00 -0400 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 14:06:00 -0400 (EDT) From: SysAdm/Postmaster Subject: can't access this MIME To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone have clarity as to why Pine won't let me access/save/view this MIME enclosure? I already had the person at our site request they not send it in uuencoded format and haven't seen any problems with pine handling MIME before. Thanks Scott McWilliams Network Services Group Distributed Computing Beth Israel Hospital Vox: +1 617.735.5559 Boston, Massachusetts Fax: +1 617.735.3966 --Message-Boundary-6626 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-description: Information about this message. This message contains a file prepared for transmission using the MIME BASE64 transfer encoding scheme. If you are using Pegasus Mail or another MIME-compliant system, you should be able to extract it from within your mailer. If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for help. ---- File information ----------- File: IBDMAP12.TXT Date: 15 Jul 1994, 16:34 Size: 32255 bytes. 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charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: >From the upcoming Pine FAQ: What is folder locking and how does it work? Locks are used by Pine and other mail programs to prevent damage from occurring to the mail file when multiple programs try to write to the file at the same time. Because there are many different schemes of mail file locking used on UNIX, Pine implements all of them. The result is a lot of complexity. There are several reasons why locking needs to be done: 1. If you want to read the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process will modify the mail file while you are reading it. 2. If you want to write to the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process is accessing the mail file while you are writing it. 3. If you have the mail file open, you want to make sure that no other process can alter any of the internal contents of the mail file that you have read, but it is OK if another process appends new data to the mail file. 4. If you want to alter any of the internal contents of the mail file, you want to make sure that no other process has the mail file open. There are several mechanisms of locking: The creation of a file which has the same name as the mail file, but with a suffix of ".lock" (for example, this lock for /usr/spool/mail/isma is named /usr/spool/mail/isma.lock). This file accomplishes locks (1) and (2) above. This is an exclusive lock. The use of an flock() with LOCK_SH on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (1), and prevents lock (2). Multiple processes can do this. The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on the mail file. This accomplishes lock (2), and prevents lock (1). This is an exclusive lock. The use of an flock() with LOCK_EX on a file on /tmp. The file name used depends upon the version of Pine. This accomplishes locks (3) and (4). This is an exclusive lock. On SVR4-based systems, the lockf() subroutine or fcntl() system call it used instead of flock(). It is rumored that this creates a kind of lock file as well, but this has not been directly verified. [MRC] --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 15 Jul 1994, Thang M Nguyen wrote: > Hello, > > I am needing help on how the folder locking mechanism works within PINE. > I would like to know what does pine has to go through in order to do the > folder locking. In other words, what is the algorithm/procedures of the > locking mechanism. If any of you out there know about this problem, can > you email to me or post on this newsgroup. I am very appreciate it. > Thank you. > > --thang > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 15 16:52:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29432; Fri, 15 Jul 94 16:52:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06332; Fri, 15 Jul 94 16:45:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06326; Fri, 15 Jul 94 16:45:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qOwat-00000WC; Fri, 15 Jul 94 16:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: efalls%albnyvms.BITNET@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu Subject: Re: Joe is here. Now what? Date: 15 Jul 1994 18:30:07 GMT Message-Id: <306kjf$8nf@rebecca.albany.edu> References: <300sap$3mi@mozz.unh.edu>,<301j3n$7p9@mozz.unh.edu> Rather than giving up, Dan....Why not transfer the joe file to another disk, if you have access. For instance, there may be more room in the var or opt directory? Ellen Falls In article <301j3n$7p9@mozz.unh.edu>, df@christa.unh.edu (Dan Ford) writes: > >Thanks to everyone who answered my question. I was indeed able to "tar" >my joe.tar archive, or untar it I guess, but I ran out of space on my >disk before it finished. > >Thus endeth my adventure in creative editing. I am resigned to using Pico. >-- > - Dan Ellen Falls | As I gazed into the darkness Computer Information Services | I saw myself as a creature The Sage Colleges | driven and derided by vanity, 45 Ferry Street | and my eyes burned with Troy, New York 12180-4115 | anguish and anger. | efalls@uacsc1.albany.edu | - James Joyce (518) 270-2354 | Dubliners From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 15 19:02:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03061; Fri, 15 Jul 94 19:02:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17870; Fri, 15 Jul 94 18:53:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17863; Fri, 15 Jul 94 18:53:14 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HEQUXUMV4G8WWFTQ@asu.edu>; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:57:23 MST Received: from ecstest.asu.edu ([129.219.9.141]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113452>; Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:52:58 -0700 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 18:52:45 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Re: [HELP] Folder locking mechanism In-Reply-To: To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: Shahjehan Khatri Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > Because there are many different schemes of mail file locking used on UNIX, > Pine implements all of them. _All_? How did you find out the scheme _I_ use? = ) I am locked out of a Friday-night date, so decided to make up by reading "c-client" code having to do with locks.... > * Program: Berkeley mail routines > * > * Author: Mark Crispin Mark, see signature. = ) > int bezerk_lock (file,flags,mode,lock,op) > char *file; > int flags; > int mode; > char *lock; > int op; > { > int fd,ld,j; > int i = LOCKTIMEOUT * 60 - 1; > char tmp[MAILTMPLEN]; > struct timeval tp; > struct stat sb; > /* build lock filename */ > strcat (bezerk_file (lock,file),".lock"); > do { /* until OK or out of tries */ > gettimeofday (&tp,NIL); /* get the time now */ [...] > /* try to get the lock */ > if ((ld = open (lock,O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL,0666)) < 0) switch (errno) { > case EEXIST: /* if extant and old, grab it for ourselves */ > if ((!stat (lock,&sb)) && tp.tv_sec > sb.st_ctime + LOCKTIMEOUT * 60) > ld = open (lock,O_WRONLY|O_CREAT,0666); > break; Pardon the unaffected simplicy, but what happens if multiple processes decide to "grab it for ourselves." [...] > if ((ld < 0) && *lock) { /* if failed to make lock file and retry OK */ > if (!(i%15)) { > sprintf (tmp,"Mailbox %s is locked, will override in %d seconds...", > file,i); > mm_log (tmp,WARN); > } > sleep (1); /* wait 1 second before next try */ > } > } while (i-- && ld < 0 && *lock); > /* open file */ > if ((fd = open (file,flags,mode)) >= 0) flock (fd,op); > else { /* open failed */ > j = errno; /* preserve error code */ > if (*lock) unlink (lock); /* flush the lock file if any */ > errno = j; /* restore error code */ > } > return fd; > } Please explain why you don't check whether "flock (fd,op)" above succeeds. Thanks! -- "The sin of my ingratitude even now Was heavy on me. Thou art so far before, That swiftest wing of recompense is slow To overtake thee. Would thou hadst less deserv'd, That the proportion both of thanks and payment Might have been mine! Only I have left to say, More is thy due than more than all can pay." -- Shakespeare From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 00:27:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08320; Sat, 16 Jul 94 00:27:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26844; Sat, 16 Jul 94 00:21:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26835; Sat, 16 Jul 94 00:20:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qP3kf-00000BC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 00:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris) Subject: Can pine be used as a listserver? Date: 16 Jul 1994 00:47:30 -0600 Message-Id: <307vq2$l1l@nyx.cs.du.edu> I have been using pine for years now and refuse to use any other mailer. It seems so full featured that I think the others would only dissapoint. I was wondering though if pine could be used to create an automatic listserver? I realize that this is not perhaps strictly a mail applications job but I thought I'd ask anyway. If the answer is no (1) are there plans to include this in later versions and (2) does anyone know of other unix applications that can do the job? Thanks - Mike >>> Finger for my armored text pgp public key. >>> Internet:mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu@ <<< -- >>> Finger for my armored text pgp public key. >>> Internet:mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu@ <<< From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 01:35:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10140; Sat, 16 Jul 94 01:35:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19759; Sat, 16 Jul 94 01:31:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19744; Sat, 16 Jul 94 01:31:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qP4px-000006C; Sat, 16 Jul 94 01:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbbio011@huey.csun.edu (arno sarkissian) Subject: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Date: 16 Jul 1994 08:10:47 GMT Message-Id: <3084m7$2rv@nic-nac.CSU.net> Does anyone know of any off-line mail reader that can interact with Pine to first create messages and save them in a file and upload that file and send the message automatically to the destination. NOTE: Please respond directly to the above Address. Thanks, Arno -- GeneMED(tm) | Major: Molecular Biology Arno D. Sarkissian(hbbio011@huey.csun.edu) | Biochemistry 10832 Encino Ave. | Granada Hills., CA. 91344 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 13:08:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25311; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:08:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18811; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:00:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18788; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:00:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPFa8-00000JC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 12:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthewo@infinet.com (Matthew Osborn) Subject: Re: Uploading to PINE Date: 16 Jul 1994 19:35:56 GMT Message-Id: <309cqs$28k@rigel.infinet.com> References: <3025id$muf@search01.news.aol.com> Ed Greshko (egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com) wrote: : Clue #1 : Be more specific about your operating environment. : What do you mean by "upload my ACSII file"? What type of : terminal emulation software are you using? Are you using a direct async : connection? Are you using TCP/IP? What TCP/IP software are you using? : Answers to questions can be more readily obtained....and you : are more likely to get help....if you *completely* define your problem. Clue #2: Some helpful people alread answered this problem several days ago, "terminal emulation...direct async...TCP/IP..." etc never came up in the discussion. I guess they weren't so relevant, after all. Matthew From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 13:27:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25782; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:27:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21398; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:22:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21378; Sat, 16 Jul 94 13:22:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPFnq-00000YC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 12:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ces@christa.unh.edu (Christan E Schoenfeld) Subject: How do I know when I have mail in .login Date: 16 Jul 1994 19:38:05 GMT Message-Id: <309cut$kta@mozz.unh.edu> I use pine under UNIX on a DEC Alpha. I had a line in my .login: test -s /usr/spool/mail/$USER && echo "You might have mail, I can't tell" That told me when I had new mail (I changed the text when I started using Pine) but it doesn't work with Pine - It always flags as having new mail Is there any way I can still do this? -- __________________________________________________________________________ |Chris E. Schoenfeld | University of New Hampshire | |Communications / PoliSci Major | Look to the Cookie! | |_________________________________|________________________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 15:23:58 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29652; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:23:58 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04659; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:17:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04650; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:17:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPHN4-00000vC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 14:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David.Bear@Asu.Edu Subject: os2 version Message-Id: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 14:20:53 MST Dos anyone know if there is a version of pine for os2, or if anyone is working on a port? Also, is there a dos pine version that has been written to use the ibm tcpip kernel. If there is no os2 version of pine, it might be possible to use pine in a dos session under os2, as long as it can talk to the ibm tcpip stack. David Bear Support Systems Analyst College of Public Programs internet: David.Bear@asu.edu phone: 602-965-8257 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 15:25:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29711; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:25:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04824; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:18:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04804; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:18:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPHN9-00000wC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 14:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David.Bear@Asu.Edu Subject: os2 port Message-Id: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 1994 09:49:33 MST Is there anyone porting pcpine to os2? Even a character based version would be nice. If not, is anyone using the DOS version of pine under os2 successfully? I have ibm's tcpip stack. I have only seen pcpine for ftp's, packet driver's, and Novell's stack. David Bear Support Systems Analyst College of Public Programs internet: David.Bear@asu.edu phone: 602-965-8257 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 16:09:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01365; Sat, 16 Jul 94 16:09:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09794; Sat, 16 Jul 94 16:02:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09785; Sat, 16 Jul 94 16:02:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPI9C-00000FC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 15:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: corleone@clark.net Subject: Security problem with Pine? help! Date: 16 Jul 1994 18:23:27 -0400 Message-Id: <309mkv$84p@explorer.clark.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I recently installed pine3.8.9 on a Sparc 5 running SunOS 4.1.3_U1. I also am running shadow passwording. The problem is that if I go into setup within pine, I am allowed to change my passwd, which is then changed in /etc/passwd, NOT /etc/security/passwd.adjunct. This of course defeats the purpose of shadow passwords. HELP!!!!!! Frank DiGennaro corleone@clark.net -- Frank DiGennaro corleone@clark.net " As far Back As I Can Remember, I Always Wanted To Be A Gangster." -- Henry Hill, Brooklyn, N.Y. 1955 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 18:43:47 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05359; Sat, 16 Jul 94 18:43:47 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26890; Sat, 16 Jul 94 18:36:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26876; Sat, 16 Jul 94 18:36:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPKVh-00000DC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 17:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Security problem with Pine? help! Date: 16 Jul 1994 17:42:03 -0700 Message-Id: <309uor$158@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <309mkv$84p@explorer.clark.net> In article <309mkv$84p@explorer.clark.net>, wrote: : : :I recently installed pine3.8.9 on a Sparc 5 running SunOS 4.1.3_U1. :I also am running shadow passwording. The problem is that if I go :into setup within pine, I am allowed to change my passwd, which is :then changed in /etc/passwd, NOT /etc/security/passwd.adjunct. This :of course defeats the purpose of shadow passwords. HELP!!!!!! Worked for me on a Solaris 2.3 machine. But there is a serious security problem here. If you look at the implementation in osdep/chnge_pw, you'll see strcpy(cmd_buf, "passwd"); system(cmd_buf); Note a relative pathname is used. This is vulnerable to Trojans in your $PATH. I wish I'd noticed the password-changing function before; looks like I'll be doing a quick edit and recompiling pine on a few platforms tonight! I don't see why a mail user agent needs a password-changing function at all, but this implementation is seriously broken. Besides the security hole, passwd isn't necessarily the right program to call. On some systems it should be yppasswd or nispasswd instead. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 20:05:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06384; Sat, 16 Jul 94 20:05:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05325; Sat, 16 Jul 94 19:59:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05316; Sat, 16 Jul 94 19:59:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPLsi-00000IC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 19:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jai@cs.mun.ca (Jai Roberts) Subject: Help me use pine for newsgroups!! Message-Id: <1994Jul15.190451.3317@cs.mun.ca> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 1994 19:04:51 GMT I was wondering if anyone out there knew how to use pine v. 3.89 to post on these newsgroups and others. Any responses can be sent to me personally, or posted here, but please ensure that the subject appears, or that you direct my attention to it, as I dn't read this group very often. Thank you very much. Jai Roberts jai@ganymede.cs.mun.ca -- "I'm as baffled as Adam on Mother's Day." Bolivian soccer coach Xabier Azkargorta in 6/20/94 S.I. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 16 22:20:42 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08230; Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:20:42 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19499; Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:15:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19493; Sat, 16 Jul 94 22:15:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPO7V-00000FC; Sat, 16 Jul 94 21:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mauricio@tezcat.com (Mauricio Araujo) Subject: Re: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Date: 17 Jul 1994 04:44:58 GMT Message-Id: <30ad0a$bg6@xochi.tezcat.com> References: <3084m7$2rv@nic-nac.CSU.net> arno sarkissian (hbbio011@huey.csun.edu) wrote: : Does anyone know of any off-line mail reader that can interact with Pine : to first create messages and save them in a file and upload that file and : send the message automatically to the destination. : NOTE: Please respond directly to the above Address. NO, please respond here. I too am interested in the answer to this question. i think that I can devote sometime in reading this group to find the answer. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 02:06:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12165; Sun, 17 Jul 94 02:06:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01174; Sun, 17 Jul 94 02:00:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01168; Sun, 17 Jul 94 02:00:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPRbf-00000HC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 01:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Help me use pine for newsgroups!! Date: 17 Jul 1994 08:32:44 GMT Message-Id: <30aqbc$ro5@news.ysu.edu> References: <1994Jul15.190451.3317@cs.mun.ca> In a previous article, jai@cs.mun.ca (Jai Roberts) says: >I was wondering if anyone out there knew how to use pine v. 3.89 to post No. Pine3.89 can be used to read, but does not permit you to post news articles directly. Await Pine3.90 eagerly for this. To post, you must use methods used by those with read-only access to a news server, namely, posting by means of a mail-to-news gateway. -- Barry Bouwsma, in Ann Arbor Michigan, soon to be back biking eastern Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployable System Cracker seeking work; food; chocolate; Czech pastries, ice cream, and beer; travel partner; free airline tickets; and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 04:54:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15848; Sun, 17 Jul 94 04:54:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03676; Sun, 17 Jul 94 04:46:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03670; Sun, 17 Jul 94 04:46:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPUCZ-00000JC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 04:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: njj4@tower.york.ac.uk (Nicholas Jackson) Subject: Re: Help me use pine for newsgroups!! Date: 17 Jul 1994 11:06:29 GMT Message-Id: <30b3bl$42s@castle.york.ac.uk> References: <1994Jul15.190451.3317@cs.mun.ca> <30aqbc$ro5@news.ysu.edu> Scripsit Barry Bouwsma (ag786@yfn.ysu.edu) .... > No. Pine3.89 can be used to read, but does not permit you to post > news articles directly. Await Pine3.90 eagerly for this. I tried using Pine3.89 to read news via nntp from our local server, and was (I'm afraid) unimpressed with the user interface; just as a matter of interest, are there any plans to introduce threading in a later version? Nicholas -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- As the spring rains fall, Nicholas Jackson Soaking in them, on the roof, njj4@tower.york.ac.uk Is a child's rag ball. http://www.york.ac.uk/~njj4 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 05:36:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16610; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:36:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04239; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:29:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04233; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:29:54 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPUoP-00000JC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 04:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schmidt@cbnewse.cb.att.com (richard.c.schmidt) Subject: Re: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 11:42:31 GMT Message-Id: References: <3084m7$2rv@nic-nac.CSU.net> >From article <3084m7$2rv@nic-nac.CSU.net>, by hbbio011@huey.csun.edu (arno sarkissian): > > Does anyone know of any off-line mail reader that can interact with Pine > to first create messages and save them in a file and upload that file and > send the message automatically to the destination. > > NOTE: Please respond directly to the above Address. > > GeneMED(tm) | Major: Molecular Biology > Arno D. Sarkissian(hbbio011@huey.csun.edu) | Biochemistry > 10832 Encino Ave. | > Granada Hills., CA. 91344 | > Sir & Whoever Else is interested ..... If you are using a UNIX Pine, you are on a UNIX system. By definition, that's on-line. I'm not sure if Pine is offered in a Windoze or Mac version or not, but that is what you are looking for. If there is such a Pine, it would need to be bundled with some sort of software that downloads the mail to your machine. This might be SLIP, with TCP/IP and SMTP with POP2 or POP3. Or it could use something else all-together. You might try checking out one of the Off-Line Mail Readers for Windoze or Mac........ Yours ....... Richard C Schmidt ============================================================= Richard C Schmidt Work: schmidt@rcdlsvr.attmail.com Home: rcs@fafnir.atl.ga.us Opinions are mine alone - I sometimes have trouble even doing that -- ============================================================= Richard C Schmidt Work: schmidt@rcdlsvr.attmail.com Home: rcs@fafnir.atl.ga.us Opinions are mine alone - I sometimes have trouble even doing that From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 06:01:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16907; Sun, 17 Jul 94 06:01:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04605; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:55:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu:brentb@orca.fhcrc.org> Received: from arizvm1.CCIT.Arizona.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04599; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:55:51 -0700 Received: from orca.fhcrc.org by ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 17 Jul 94 05:49:52 MST Received: by orca.fhcrc.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA88243; Sun, 17 Jul 1994 05:57:35 -0700 Date: Sun, 17 Jul 1994 05:54:35 -800 (PDT) From: Brent Blumenstein Subject: Re: os2 version To: David.Bear@Asu.Edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There is a group of us here interested in precisely these issues. OS/2 and IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2 provides a really excellent and easily maintained general computing platform, and it would be really nice to have a client-type mail program such as pine. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 206 667 4623 Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center | fax: 206 667 4408 1124 Columbia Street MP-557 | e-mail: brentb@orca.fhcrc.org Seattle, WA 98104 USA | On Tue, 12 Jul 1994 David.Bear@Asu.Edu wrote: > Dos anyone know if there is a version of pine for os2, or if anyone > is working on a port? > > Also, is there a dos pine version that has been written to use the ibm tcpip > kernel. If there is no os2 version of pine, it might be possible to use pine > in a dos session under os2, as long as it can talk to the ibm tcpip stack. > > David Bear > Support Systems Analyst > College of Public Programs > internet: David.Bear@asu.edu > phone: 602-965-8257 > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 11:39:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21818; Sun, 17 Jul 94 11:39:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18627; Sun, 17 Jul 94 11:29:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18621; Sun, 17 Jul 94 11:29:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPadu-00000JC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: khan@xraylith.wisc.edu (Mumit Khan) Subject: Re: Security problem with Pine? help! Date: 17 Jul 1994 18:10:27 GMT Message-Id: <30bs6j$kcb@news.doit.wisc.edu> References: <309mkv$84p@explorer.clark.net> <309uor$158@wolf.cs.arizona.edu> In article <309uor$158@wolf.cs.arizona.edu>, Jim Davis wrote: >Worked for me on a Solaris 2.3 machine. > >But there is a serious security problem here. If you look at the >implementation in osdep/chnge_pw, you'll see > > strcpy(cmd_buf, "passwd"); > system(cmd_buf); > >Note a relative pathname is used. This is vulnerable to Trojans in >your $PATH. I wish I'd noticed the password-changing function before; >looks like I'll be doing a quick edit and recompiling pine on a few >platforms tonight! After our systems got broken in a few months ago, PINE was one of the pkgs I rebuilt on all of our 5 platforms to take out the password changing ``feature'' (which means that I can't use the pre-compiled binaries ... sigh). > >I don't see why a mail user agent needs a password-changing function >at all, but this implementation is seriously broken. Besides the >security hole, passwd isn't necessarily the right program to call. On >some systems it should be yppasswd or nispasswd instead. > I can see the use of having this, since you might want to have email-only accounts, with a hacked-up PINE as your shell -- but that's probably not common at most sites. My recommendation would be take it out completely, or if not, do a better job of calling the underlying password routines to handle NIS+/NIS/C2 etc systems transparently as well. mumit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 16:45:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26925; Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:45:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29680; Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:35:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29670; Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:35:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPfRA-00000cC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 16:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mbas@callisto.unm.edu (i am me) Subject: vi editor Date: 17 Jul 1994 23:08:07 GMT Message-Id: <30cdkn$d5b@lynx.unm.edu> can anyone tell me how to use vi as my editor??? pico is ok but it really bugz =( morris -- Now I lay me down to sleep I pray the Lord my soul to keep And if I die before I wake I pray the Lord my toys to break... So none of the other kids can use em. Amen. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 20:27:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00124; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:27:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25521; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:19:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25515; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:19:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPiqG-00000LC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 19:54 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Security problem with Pine? help! Date: 17 Jul 1994 19:32:08 -0700 Message-Id: <30cpj8$2ec@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <309mkv$84p@explorer.clark.net> <309uor$158@wolf.cs.arizona.edu> <30bs6j$kcb@news.doit.wisc.edu> In article <30bs6j$kcb@news.doit.wisc.edu>, Mumit Khan wrote: :I can see the use of having this, since you might want to have email-only :accounts, with a hacked-up PINE as your shell -- but that's probably :not common at most sites. My recommendation would be take it out :completely, or if not, do a better job of calling the underlying password :routines to handle NIS+/NIS/C2 etc systems transparently as well. Perhaps the full pathname to the appropriate password program could be #define'd in the appropriate osdep/os-xxx.h header file; then it would be a configurable option for systems where there are different possible choices. Even then calling system() wouldn't be wise -- the pathname argument could be subverted by games with the IFS environment variable. An explicit fork and exec would be safer. Leaving out this option altogether would be safer still. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 17 20:29:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00165; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:29:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22369; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:19:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22361; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:19:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPiwG-00000PC; Sun, 17 Jul 94 20:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dklindt@cobra.ordata.com (David P Klindt) Subject: Re: vi editor Message-Id: <1994Jul18.025014.3252@cobra.ordata.com> References: <30cdkn$d5b@lynx.unm.edu> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 02:50:14 GMT Pico is a NICE editor for messages. VI is ok for programming stuff. I am REAL glad that I no longer have to use VI for message work! i am me (mbas@callisto.unm.edu) wrote: : can anyone tell me how to use vi as my editor??? : pico is ok but it really bugz =( : morris : -- : Now I lay me down to sleep : I pray the Lord my soul to keep : And if I die before I wake : I pray the Lord my toys to break... : So none of the other kids can use em. Amen. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 07:21:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12549; Mon, 18 Jul 94 07:21:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04387; Mon, 18 Jul 94 06:49:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ciup1.ncc.up.pt by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04381; Mon, 18 Jul 94 06:49:30 -0700 Received: from rosa.esb.ucp.pt by ciup1.ncc.up.pt with SMTP id AA24580 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for ); Mon, 18 Jul 1994 14:49:13 +0100 Received: by rosa.esb.ucp.pt id AA02823 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for Pine Info ); Mon, 18 Jul 1994 15:47:58 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 15:47:58 +0100 From: John Cullen Subject: How do I remove the machine name from From:(not use-only-domain-name) To: Pine Info Cc: John Cullen Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear All, Situation: pine3.89 running on Linux box (mailserver) pine3.89 running on DECstation (user machine) imapd running on mailserver I have tried various combinations of configuration file but with no success. When our email users send mail internally, or Cc: a copy to themselves, the "From:" part of the address always reads: From: user@rosa.esb.ucp.pt (where rosa is the name of our mailhost). I have tried setting the use-domain-name-only option, and also setting the user-domain explicitly (separately and in combination for these options -- and I know that the latter means the former is not used!) When I examine the mail headers directly, the From: line simply has the username (eg. From: jjsc) with the full name and machine.host part being added by Pine. So, my question is, is there any way to force pine to _always_ use only the domain (esb.ucp.pt) in this case, for _any_ local address? If I've overlooked something obvious, flame me, but tell me first what I missed! Many thanks in advance, John --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Escola Superior de Biotecnologia | Email: J.Cullen@esb.ucp.pt Universidade Catolica Portuguesa | Phone: +351 2 558 0073 Rua Dr. Antonio Bernadino de Almeida | Fax: +351 2 590 351 4200 PORTO | Portugal | #include From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 10:33:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20757; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:33:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08880; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:12:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08874; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:12:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPvvS-000006C; Mon, 18 Jul 94 09:52 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Help me use pine for newsgroups!! Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 09:22:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Jul15.190451.3317@cs.mun.ca> <30aqbc$ro5@news.ysu.edu> <30b3bl$42s@castle.york.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30b3bl$42s@castle.york.ac.uk> Threading will come some time _after_ Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 17 Jul 1994, Nicholas Jackson wrote: > Scripsit Barry Bouwsma (ag786@yfn.ysu.edu) .... > > No. Pine3.89 can be used to read, but does not permit you to post > > news articles directly. Await Pine3.90 eagerly for this. > > I tried using Pine3.89 to read news via nntp from our local server, and > was (I'm afraid) unimpressed with the user interface; just as a matter > of interest, are there any plans to introduce threading in a later > version? > > Nicholas > > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > As the spring rains fall, Nicholas Jackson > Soaking in them, on the roof, njj4@tower.york.ac.uk > Is a child's rag ball. http://www.york.ac.uk/~njj4 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 10:56:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21863; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:56:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29472; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:43:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [199.99.95.2] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29466; Mon, 18 Jul 94 10:43:47 -0700 Received: by craycom.com (4.1/3.1.090690-Cray Communications) id AA12432; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:42:46 EDT Received: from craycomm(125.0.0.100) by craygate.craycom.com via smap (V1.3mjr) id sma012430; Mon Jul 18 13:42:22 1994 Received: from saturn.craycom by craycomm.craycom.com (4.1/craycomm-2.0) id AA24735; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:42:21 EDT Date: Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:42:21 EDT From: jensen@craycom.com (Bill Jensen) Message-Id: <9407181742.AA24735@craycomm.craycom.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PINE and PC-NFS I'm new to PINE and this list, and am having some trouble with PC-PINE for PC-NFS. I've installed a couple of users, that work just fine, but this morning I was unable to get a user going. PINE would not open his INBOX, complaining that it couldn't find the host. The main difference between the systems, is that the ones that work use PC-NFS 4.0, and the one that doesn't is using PC-NFS 3.5. Does PC-PINE not work with pre-4.0 PC-NFS? The PC has several file systems mounted from that host, so it's not actually unreachable, but for some reason PINE can't handle the host name. We can upgrade that PC-NFS, but I'd like to be sure there's no other way, first. Thanks much for any assistance! Bill Jensen Cray Communications, Inc. Principal Engineer Engineering Dept. (301)-317-7553 9020 Junction Drive jensen@craycom.com Annapolis Junction, MD 20701 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 11:41:26 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23901; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:41:26 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10541; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:29:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10535; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:29:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPx6g-00000BC; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jsallen@rs6.tcs.tulane.edu (Jay Allen) Subject: Pine on Sun systems?? Date: 18 Jul 1994 17:10:15 GMT Message-Id: <30ed1n$d32@news.cs.tulane.edu> Hi, I would like to run PINE on our SunOS 5.3 (version 4), but the pine documentation tells me that it does not support that platform. Is this true, and is there another way to get PINE up and running. ALSO, I would at least like to use pico on our system, since vi is terrible. The docs say that pico is a stand-alone text editor. Does this mean I can get it by itself (without PINE)? I did not see pico at the ftp site. Any help would be greatly appreciated! :) _________________________________________________________________________ Jay Allen Texas-Ex '93 Tulane Medical School Southeastern Intercollegiate Sailing Association Executive Vice-President _________________________________________________________________________ --- ____ . _ . --- /# /_\_ |\_|/__/| --- | |/o\o\ / / \/ \ \ --- | \\_/_/ /__|O||O|__ \ HAPPY --- / |_ | |/_ \_/\_/ _\ | HAPPY --- | ||\_ ~| | | (____) | || --- | ||| \/ \/\___/\__/ // --- | |||_ (_/ || JOY --- \// | | || JOY --- || | | ||\ --- ||_ \ \ //_/ --- \_| o| \______// --- /\___/ __ || __|| --- / ||||__ (____(____) --- (___)_) /***********\ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 11:46:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24073; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:46:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10710; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:35:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10702; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:35:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPxBd-000006C; Mon, 18 Jul 94 11:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: 1michael@netcom.com (Michael Orland) Subject: Pine 3.90 Message-Id: <1michaelCt5BqE.JAD@netcom.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 17:11:02 GMT Does anyone know when Pine 3.90 will be released? Forgive me if this question has already been discused into the ground. -- Michael Orland 1michael@netcom.com -- /////////////// //////////// Michael Orland 1michael@netcom.com /// /// /// // // /// /// /// // // "Room service? Send up a larger room" /// /// /// //////////// - Groucho Marx From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 13:13:00 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27714; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:13:00 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02527; Mon, 18 Jul 94 12:57:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from halcyon.halcyon.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02521; Mon, 18 Jul 94 12:57:29 -0700 Received: by halcyon.com id AA01794 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Mon, 18 Jul 1994 12:57:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 12:57:28 -0700 From: Ralph Sims Message-Id: <199407181957.AA01794@halcyon.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: disallowing pine to be suspended vai ctrl-z Not being a codesmith, I need a pointer as to where and what to change to disallow pine to be placed in the background. I thought it would not do that if the -z flag weren't used, but it appears that enabling 'feature old-growth' bypasses the commandline flag. I don't mind doing this in the pine.conf file, but we've enabled all the rich features to cover all those users that think they need them. Administratively, it would benefit us to disallow ctrl-z suspension, however. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 13:55:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29316; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:55:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13567; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:43:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13560; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:43:01 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04650; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:43:01 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26425; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:03:46 -0700 Received: from [138.5.100.1] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02683; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:03:43 -0700 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 16:02:19 -0400 (EDT) From: KWAN@MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <940718160219.e31b@MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU> Resent-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 13:42:57 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Subject: Resent mail.... Resent-Message-Id: | From: SMTP%"Postmaster@MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU" 18-JUL-1994 15:58:12.60 | | I understand that there are PINE for unix and pc. Is it available for VMS? so where is the binary and help files. | | Please respond directly to me. I do not subscribe to the pine_info list. | | Thanks! | ------------- Y. Kathy Kwan INTERNET: kwan@medlib.hscbklyn.edu Library Systems Analyst SUNY Health Science Center at Brooklyn From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 14:01:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29729; Mon, 18 Jul 94 14:01:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13738; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:49:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13732; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:49:35 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qPzIC-00000FC; Mon, 18 Jul 94 13:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Pine on Sun systems?? Message-Id: <30eljm$2t7@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> Date: 18 Jul 94 19:36:22 GMT References: <30ed1n$d32@news.cs.tulane.edu> In article <30ed1n$d32@news.cs.tulane.edu>, Jay Allen wrote: : : I would like to run PINE on our SunOS 5.3 (version 4), but the :pine documentation tells me that it does not support that platform. Is :this true, and is there another way to get PINE up and running. I don't know what you mean by "SunOS 5.3 (version 4)", but pine 3.89 runs on Solaris 2.3 machines. You need to make a trivial change to pine/makefile.sol: diff makefile.sol makefile.sol.orig 69c69 < CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) -Dconst= --- > CFLAGS= -DSV4 $(OPTIMIZE) $(PROFILE) $(DEBUG) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 15:31:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03095; Mon, 18 Jul 94 15:31:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16050; Mon, 18 Jul 94 15:21:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16044; Mon, 18 Jul 94 15:21:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQ0mw-00000BC; Mon, 18 Jul 94 15:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller) Subject: Re: Can pine be used as a listserver? Message-Id: Date: 18 Jul 94 21:29:30 GMT References: <307vq2$l1l@nyx.cs.du.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <307vq2$l1l@nyx.cs.du.edu> The answers are no, no, and sure: majordomo, listproc, procmail, filter, deliver, mailagent, ... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 16 Jul 1994, Mike Harris wrote: > I have been using pine for years now and refuse to use any other mailer. > It seems so full featured that I think the others would only dissapoint. > I was wondering though if pine could be used to create an automatic > listserver? I realize that this is not perhaps strictly a mail > applications job but I thought I'd ask anyway. If the answer is no (1) > are there plans to include this in later versions and (2) does anyone > know of other unix applications that can do the job? > > Thanks > > - Mike > > >>> Finger for my armored text pgp public key. > >>> Internet:mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu@ <<< > > -- > >>> Finger for my armored text pgp public key. > >>> Internet:mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu@ <<< > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 16:36:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05851; Mon, 18 Jul 94 16:36:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07683; Mon, 18 Jul 94 16:21:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07677; Mon, 18 Jul 94 16:21:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQ1hz-00000FC; Mon, 18 Jul 94 16:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: disallowing pine to be suspended vai ctrl-z Message-Id: <30ev60$39d@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> Date: 18 Jul 94 22:19:44 GMT References: <199407181957.AA01794@halcyon.com> In article <199407181957.AA01794@halcyon.com>, Ralph Sims wrote: :Not being a codesmith, I need a pointer as to where and what to :change to disallow pine to be placed in the background. I thought :it would not do that if the -z flag weren't used, but it appears :that enabling 'feature old-growth' bypasses the commandline flag. :I don't mind doing this in the pine.conf file, but we've enabled :all the rich features to cover all those users that think they :need them. Administratively, it would benefit us to disallow :ctrl-z suspension, however. Ooof. It looks like pine actually reads Ctrl-Z. (So much for trap '' 24 or even stty -isig!) So if I'm reading the code in signals.c right about your only option is to recompile after changing have_job_control in osdep/jobcntrl to return 0 instead of 1. (Or maybe take out the include(jobcntrl) statement from your os-xxx.ic.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 17:37:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08868; Mon, 18 Jul 94 17:37:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18846; Mon, 18 Jul 94 17:19:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18840; Mon, 18 Jul 94 17:19:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQ2ba-00000BC; Mon, 18 Jul 94 17:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hbbio011@huey.csun.edu (arno sarkissian) Subject: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Date: 18 Jul 1994 23:33:31 GMT Message-Id: <30f3gb$gk9@nic-nac.CSU.net> I found a program to do so, it's called PC-Pine. To download ftp to: HOST: uceng.uc.edu DIR: pub/wuarchive/packages/mail/pine/msdos FILE: pcpine_p.zip I tried it however it asks for Packet Driver, which yet I don't have. -- GeneMED(tm) | Major: Molecular Biology Arno D. Sarkissian(hbbio011@huey.csun.edu) | Biochemistry 10832 Encino Ave. | Granada Hills., CA. 91344 | From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 19:36:01 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11487; Mon, 18 Jul 94 19:36:01 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11213; Mon, 18 Jul 94 19:24:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [192.203.224.2] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11205; Mon, 18 Jul 94 19:24:38 -0700 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA03706; Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:23:16 -0500 Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 21:23:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Lowe Subject: How to Count Messages? To: Pine Information List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can we use any of PINE's internal routines to produce a count of messages waiting for a particular user without executing PINE? - Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu 708 844 5290 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 18 23:32:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15992; Mon, 18 Jul 94 23:32:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24083; Mon, 18 Jul 94 23:16:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24077; Mon, 18 Jul 94 23:16:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQ8FR-000006C; Mon, 18 Jul 94 23:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: [HELP] Folder locking mechanism Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 22:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: > > > Because there are many different schemes of mail file locking used on UNIX, > > > Pine implements all of them. > > _All_? How did you find out the scheme _I_ use? = ) I don't. I apply all of them. > > Pardon the unaffected simplicy, but what happens if multiple processes > > decide to "grab it for ourselves." This is unlikely to happen due to the nature of this particular lock. It is also unavoidable due to the nature of this particular lock. Blame the people who designed locking of UNIX mail files 15+ years ago; it's all their fault. Fortunately, as noted above, it is very unlikely to happen. This particular lock is used only for brief periods of time. If something has it seized for 5 minutes, something is wrong. There is some level of protection in that the file date is checked. > > Please explain why you don't check whether "flock (fd,op)" above succeeds. The blocking form of flock() is used. It always succeeds. If the file is locked, it will hang. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 00:37:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17417; Tue, 19 Jul 94 00:37:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15788; Tue, 19 Jul 94 00:22:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15782; Tue, 19 Jul 94 00:22:07 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQ9DS-00000BC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 00:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pcfong@hkusub ([ Marlboro | PC ] 8D) Subject: Re: vi editor Message-Id: References: <30cdkn$d5b@lynx.unm.edu> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 06:45:32 GMT i am me (mbas@callisto.unm.edu) wrote: : can anyone tell me how to use vi as my editor??? : : pico is ok but it really bugz =( Set the environment variable "VISUAL" to your "vi". But I prefer pico though buggy. -- Marlboro Fong pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. Those who WATCH things happen. Those who WONDER what happened. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 01:32:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19194; Tue, 19 Jul 94 01:32:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25901; Tue, 19 Jul 94 01:16:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25887; Tue, 19 Jul 94 01:16:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQA1e-000006C; Tue, 19 Jul 94 00:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wu2@crash.cts.com (David DiGioia) Subject: Pine won't read /etc/aliases? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 06:37:29 GMT Message-Id: I am running Pine 3.89 under SunOS 4.1.3. I like it a lot! The only problem I have is with mail addressing. Sometimes it bounces mail immediately, when the address looks ok to me. I think the problems arise when the user is on the local net, and I use an address like: user@hostname, instead of user@domainname. I think I also have problems when using multiple To: addressess, separated by commas; sometimes it seems to bounce one of them, even though if I resend it to that single address, it mails fine. BTW, if it makes a difference, I have Pine set up to use domain-name only. Since I have an extensive /etc/aliases file, which points all likely addresses to the correct user@hostname or user@domainname, I think my problem would be solved if Pine would read the aliases file. Although mailtool reads it fine, Pine does not seem to. Any hints would be appreciated. Thank you. ...David .. David Di Gioia | wu2@cts.com .. Stout were the words he spoke to his men: .. 'Heart must be braver, courage the bolder, .. Mood the stouter as our strength grows less!' .. Byrhtwold, in "The Battle of Maldon" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 04:13:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23431; Tue, 19 Jul 94 04:13:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18935; Tue, 19 Jul 94 04:02:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18929; Tue, 19 Jul 94 04:02:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQCd7-000006C; Tue, 19 Jul 94 03:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: liaos@is.nyu.edu (liaos) Subject: Detect and bounce back unwelcomed mails Date: 19 Jul 1994 04:57:49 GMT Message-Id: <30fmgd$sch@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> I'd like to know if there is a way to detect incoming mails and then bounce back those I don't want? Someone I know keeps getting some annoying mails from her friend and after failing to stop the person from sending mails, she wants me to post it for her to see if there is a way to do so in pine? Thanks for your help. Y.L. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 06:27:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26189; Tue, 19 Jul 94 06:27:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00326; Tue, 19 Jul 94 06:07:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00320; Tue, 19 Jul 94 06:07:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQEbx-000006C; Tue, 19 Jul 94 05:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: duffy@cais.cais.com (Duffy Men) Subject: HELP!!! how to check MIME is on the computer system or not ?? Date: 19 Jul 1994 12:43:22 GMT Message-Id: <30ghpa$aql@sun.cais.com> Does anyone know how to check the computer system has MIME running or not. I would like use pine to mail binary files to other person and like to check does both side support MIME or not. Thank you for help. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 07:35:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27674; Tue, 19 Jul 94 07:35:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22367; Tue, 19 Jul 94 07:19:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22361; Tue, 19 Jul 94 07:19:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQFk1-00000AC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 07:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mlindsey@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Mark R. Lindsey) Subject: term adaptation of pine? Date: 19 Jul 1994 07:54:20 -0600 Message-Id: <30gluc$nqo@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Has anyone adapted the pine IMAP code to work under term (the slip-esque unix<->unix serial line protocol) yet? If not, and you've got a couple of minutes to do it, I'd really like to see it working. This would allow easy function as an offline mail reader for, at least, home unix users. -- Mark R. Lindsey [][] The South Georgia Digital Research Institute mlindsey@nyx10.cs.du.edu [][] http://nox.cs.du.edu:8001/~mlindsey From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 08:00:25 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28258; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:00:25 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01739; Tue, 19 Jul 94 07:41:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [129.179.30.2] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01733; Tue, 19 Jul 94 07:41:44 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA12590; Tue, 19 Jul 94 22:40:21 +0800 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 22:40:20 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Detect and bounce back unwelcomed mails To: liaos Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30fmgd$sch@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 19 Jul 1994, liaos wrote: > I'd like to know if there is a way to detect incoming mails and then > bounce back those I don't want? Someone I know keeps getting some > annoying mails from her friend and after failing to stop the person from > sending mails, she wants me to post it for her to see if there is a way > to do so in pine? The best thing you can do is to get "filter" from the elm distribution, or procmail, or deliver, or one of the other various filter programs. Then, you can detect incoming mail from the offending (or is that offensive ?) person and direct it to its proper location... /dev/null. Chances are you will find that these programs can be of more value than just dumping annonying email. Good luck... Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 08:12:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28731; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:12:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01866; Tue, 19 Jul 94 07:50:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [129.179.30.2] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01860; Tue, 19 Jul 94 07:50:44 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA12772; Tue, 19 Jul 94 22:49:48 +0800 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 22:49:47 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: HELP!!! how to check MIME is on the computer system or not ?? To: Duffy Men Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30ghpa$aql@sun.cais.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 19 Jul 1994, Duffy Men wrote: > Does anyone know how to check the computer system has MIME running or > not. I would like use pine to mail binary files to other person and like > to check does both side support MIME or not. Thank you for help. What you really want to know is if the UA (User Agent) the other person is using is MIME capable. The only reliable way to determine this is to "ask" the intended receipient if their UA is MIME capable. This is generally a good idea....before you send that 1M byte GIF file only to find out that the other person can't handle it. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 08:22:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29071; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:22:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02060; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:00:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02054; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:00:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQGMj-00000VC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 07:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: P.D.Bates@bradford.ac.uk (P.D.Bates) Subject: Stuck in debug mode Message-Id: <1994Jul19.133920.1460@bradford.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 13:39:20 GMT Hello there... Sorry to trouble everyone with this, but I'm not sure where-else to address this query to... I ftp'ed straight executables of pine and pico for the Sun onto my system... (because of not having, or rather experiencing problems with the C-compiler at our site) Pico works fine, but Pine is for some reason stuck in debug mode, so typing 'pine' is the equivalent of 'pine -d 4'? because I end up with a total number of 4 .pine-debug reports before they loop around again... Is this a problem with my system, or is pine (3.89 in this case) meant to default to debug mode? It doesn't seem to be experiencing any problems with my system, it just automatically gives me a debug report anyway. Can I cure this? Is there somewhere I can contact about bugs or for help? Thanks a lot... Peter Bates, University of Bradford, UK. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 08:44:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00165; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:44:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02218; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:07:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.133.234.11] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02202; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:06:57 -0700 Received: by camco1.celestial.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qQGly-0003EdC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:07 PDT Message-Id: From: bill@celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: Re: Detect and bounce back unwelcomed mails To: liaos@is.nyu.edu (liaos) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 08:07:58 -0700 (PDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30fmgd$sch@cmcl2.NYU.EDU> from "liaos" at Jul 19, 94 04:57:49 am Reply-To: bill@Celestial.COM Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA 98040 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1431 > > > I'd like to know if there is a way to detect incoming mails and then > bounce back those I don't want? Someone I know keeps getting some > annoying mails from her friend and after failing to stop the person from > sending mails, she wants me to post it for her to see if there is a way > to do so in pine? > This isn't really a job for a Mail User Agent (MUA) like pine, but for a Mail Delivery Agent (MDA) such as Chip Salzenberg's deliver. An MDA is a program that examines incoming mail and determines whether to put it in the user's INBOX, deliver it so one or more other addresses, drop the mail.... I use it to automatically archive incoming mail by year, month, system, and user, to check mailing list traffic for duplicates before forwarding, and to assign incoming email for support to the appropriate person. Deliver looks for a $HOME/.deliver script which may be any executable program (mine are in perl). This is invoked by putting "|/usr/lib/mail/deliver username" in the .forward file. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: camco!bill 8545 SE 68th Street FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere. The best thing about space travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere. -- Robert Heinlein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 09:02:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00956; Tue, 19 Jul 94 09:02:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03119; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:48:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03113; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:48:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQH92-00000AC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: Pine won't read /etc/aliases? Date: 19 Jul 1994 08:12:16 -0700 Message-Id: <30gqgg$3sm@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: In article , David DiGioia wrote: :Since I have an extensive /etc/aliases file, which points all likely :addresses to the correct user@hostname or user@domainname, I think my :problem would be solved if Pine would read the aliases file. Although :mailtool reads it fine, Pine does not seem to. : /etc/aliases is read by sendmail, not pine (or mailtool). Pine (and mailtool) hand off the message you want to send to sendmail to do the real work of delivery. So it sounds to me like a sendmail problem. You can use /usr/ucb/Mail on your Sun to troubleshoot this: try Mail -v user and watch the resulting chatter. Another debugging trick is to telnet to the smtp port on the machine you want to send mail to and use the 'vrfy' and 'expn' commands to check out alias expansion: telnet some-machine-name 25 [ ... startup chatter from remote sendmail ... ] vrfy some-name expn some-name quit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 09:05:16 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01576; Tue, 19 Jul 94 09:05:16 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24315; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:45:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24307; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:45:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQH2m-000006C; Tue, 19 Jul 94 08:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: matthew.w.hansen@uwrf.edu (Matthew Hansen) Subject: PC-Pine 3.89 Setup Files Message-Id: <1994Jul19.100038.4913@rivers> Date: 19 Jul 94 10:00:37 -0600 Hello, I am trying to install PC-Pine 3.89 for Packet Drivers on our Network. It will be running in a DOS window on Windows 3.1. I want users to be able to store personal information on a diskette. Right now I am trying to get Pine to look for the PINERC file in the a:\pine directory. The problem is it keeps trying to look for the PINERC file in the H:\PINE directory it creates. I have tried setting the working directory to be a:\pine, but that doesn't work. Is their an enviornment variable I could set for this? Also it there a file I could modify to tell Pine to create the default PINERC file on the a:\pine directory rather than a h:\pine? Thanks for any help, Email reponses preferred. ------------------------ Matthew W. Hansen Matthew.W.Hansen@uwrf.edu University of Wisconsin - River Falls Academic Computing From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 10:10:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04410; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:10:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04811; Tue, 19 Jul 94 09:53:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04805; Tue, 19 Jul 94 09:53:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQI7C-000006C; Tue, 19 Jul 94 09:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: term adaptation of pine? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 09:25:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30gluc$nqo@nyx10.cs.du.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30gluc$nqo@nyx10.cs.du.edu> I have successfully run Pine/IMAP over a term link (SunOS<->Ultrix) without any major difficulty. What kind of problems are you having? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 19 Jul 1994, Mark R. Lindsey wrote: > Has anyone adapted the pine IMAP code to work under term (the slip-esque > unix<->unix serial line protocol) yet? If not, and you've got a couple of > minutes to do it, I'd really like to see it working. > > This would allow easy function as an offline mail reader for, at least, home > unix users. > > -- > Mark R. Lindsey [][] The South Georgia Digital Research Institute > mlindsey@nyx10.cs.du.edu [][] http://nox.cs.du.edu:8001/~mlindsey > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 10:14:26 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04660; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:14:26 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26150; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:00:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26144; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:00:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQIFp-00000BC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 09:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: vi editor Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 09:08:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30cdkn$d5b@lynx.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Have the bugs you are seeing been reported to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 19 Jul 1994 pcfong@hkusub wrote: > i am me (mbas@callisto.unm.edu) wrote: > : can anyone tell me how to use vi as my editor??? > : > : pico is ok but it really bugz =( > > Set the environment variable "VISUAL" to your "vi". But I prefer > pico though buggy. > > -- > Marlboro Fong > pcfong@hkusub.hku.hk > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > There are THREE kinds of people: Those who MAKE things happen. > Those who WATCH things happen. > Those who WONDER what happened. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 10:18:08 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04963; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:18:08 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05036; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:04:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05030; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:04:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQIIU-00000FC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 09:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sean@oak.his.ucsf.edu Subject: addressbook and folder formats? Date: 19 Jul 1994 16:33:27 GMT Message-Id: <30gv8n$dd1@agate.berkeley.edu> Where are the formats of the addressbook and folders documented? Thanks Sean McGrath - Voice: 510.653.8387 Email: sean@oak.his.ucsf.edu Paper: 638 66th st, Oakland Ca, 94609 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 10:21:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05096; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:21:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05010; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:03:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05004; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:03:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQIH4-00000DC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 09:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to Count Messages? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 09:18:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The easiest way to handle that would be to write a small program using c-client. Take a look at imapcopy.tar.Z or mbxcvt.tar.Z in the mail directory on ftp.cac.washington.edu for sample c-client programs... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 19 Jul 1994, Steve Lowe wrote: > > Can we use any of PINE's internal routines to produce a count of messages > waiting for a particular user without executing PINE? > > - Steve Lowe > Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu > 708 844 5290 > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 10:29:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05429; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:29:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05302; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:15:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05296; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:15:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQIU8-000006C; Tue, 19 Jul 94 09:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kashmir@umiacs.umd.edu (Mike Grupenhoff) Subject: Re: term adaptation of pine? Date: 19 Jul 1994 16:36:59 GMT Message-Id: <30gvfb$npo@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> References: <30gluc$nqo@nyx10.cs.du.edu> mlindsey@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Mark R. Lindsey) wrote: >Has anyone adapted the pine IMAP code to work under term (the slip-esque >unix<->unix serial line protocol) yet? If not, and you've got a couple of >minutes to do it, I'd really like to see it working. This isn't the same as IMAP, but it might be what you need. For sending mail, you could (as root) tredir 25 25 to redirect your local smtp port to the internet connected host's smtp port. Then set smtp-server to "localhost" in your .pinerc. There are packages on sunsite that handle incoming mail. -- Mike Grupenhoff kashmir@umiacs.umd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 10:48:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06325; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:48:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26909; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:32:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26903; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:31:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQIhT-00000aC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Stuck in debug mode Date: 19 Jul 1994 16:43:52 GMT Message-Id: <30gvs8$aqr@news.ysu.edu> References: <1994Jul19.133920.1460@bradford.ac.uk> In a previous article, P.D.Bates@bradford.ac.uk (P.D.Bates) says: >Pico works fine, but Pine >is for some reason stuck >in debug mode, so typing 'pine' >is the equivalent of 'pine -d 4'? >because I end up with a total number >of 4 .pine-debug reports before they >loop around again... > >Is this a problem with my system, >or is pine (3.89 in this case) >meant to default to debug mode? Pine's default is to create up to four debug files, at I forget what debug level, so that if there are problems, there is something available to be looked at. Otherwise, they get overwritten and merely use space until that time when you do need to refer to them, so they're harmless, yet beneficial. >Is there somewhere I can contact >about bugs or for help? To report bugs, write to . There is a good on-line help built into Pine, and the tech-notes that come with the distribution are often enough to answer your questions. If you still can't resolve something, you could post here (as you have just done) and someone could help you, be it another user with an answer or the Pine Team for the authoritative Word. -- Barry Bouwsma, in Ann Arbor Michigan, soon to be back biking eastern Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployable System Cracker seeking work; food; chocolate; Czech pastries, ice cream, and beer; travel partner; free airline tickets; and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 11:35:55 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08754; Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:35:55 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06804; Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:17:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06798; Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:17:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQJQY-000006C; Tue, 19 Jul 94 10:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: HELP!!! how to check MIME is on the computer system or not ?? Date: 19 Jul 1994 16:56:02 GMT Message-Id: <30h0j3$b4d@news.ysu.edu> References: <30ghpa$aql@sun.cais.com> In a previous article, duffy@cais.cais.com (Duffy Men) says: >Does anyone know how to check the [recipient's] computer system has MIME The only way, if the other person cannot tell you and you can't figure it out from mail you receive (note that a header MIME-Version: 1.0 line is not necessarily enough to guarantee MIME capability), is to send a short MIME message, such as attaching a single-line text file of This is a test which would then be sent as a MIME attachment. If you get a reply asking "WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT YOU JUST SENT" then your recipient is not using a MIME mailreader (though there may be one available). If you receive mail from the other person which has a Message-ID: header with a Pine version, then that other person is using Pine. If, say, you see a header of X-Mailer: ELM whatever, then maybe it will work, so you have to try the test suggested above. If you yourself have received MIME mail, then of course that sender is MIME-aware. You can, of course, suggest the recipient obtain a MIME program, be it Pine, Pegasus mail, mpack, or metamail, among others. Pine will add a few lines to caution the recipient that what follows is a MIME message, and those lines will not be displayed by a MIME-aware mail program. -- Barry Bouwsma, in Ann Arbor Michigan, soon to be back biking eastern Europe MIME mail to , ASCII text to Unemployable System Cracker seeking work; food; chocolate; Czech pastries, ice cream, and beer; travel partner; free airline tickets; and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 11:55:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09674; Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:55:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28642; Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:39:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28636; Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:39:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQJoI-000006C; Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: CSYSPCN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Pete Nielsen) Subject: IMAP Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 10:58 Message-Id: <19940719105851CSYSPCN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU> I'm trying to get a feeling for how much horsepower to takes to support how many users with IMAP. If you run one or more IMAP servers, could you please take a moment to email me the hardware, and software you use, and how many users you support. How much disk space per user do you plan for, and do you have any space policy in effect. If I get enough answers to be interesting, I'm willing to post a summary to the net. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 12:04:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10086; Tue, 19 Jul 94 12:04:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07528; Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:47:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07520; Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:47:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQJs4-00000AC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kashmir@umiacs.umd.edu (Mike Grupenhoff) Subject: cmsg cancel <30gvfb$npo@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Control: cancel <30gvfb$npo@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> Date: 19 Jul 1994 14:02:28 -0400 Message-Id: <30h4fl$5e2@xanadu.umiacs.umd.edu> <30gvfb$npo@mimsy.cs.umd.edu> was cancelled from within trn. -- Mike Grupenhoff kashmir@umiacs.umd.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 12:20:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10653; Tue, 19 Jul 94 12:20:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29372; Tue, 19 Jul 94 12:08:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29366; Tue, 19 Jul 94 12:08:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQKFF-00000AC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 11:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billy@utdallas.edu (Billy Barron) Subject: .mailboxlist Date: 19 Jul 1994 17:57:02 GMT Message-Id: <30h45e$ibj@news.utdallas.edu> In my discussions with ISA Corporation regarding ECSMail, it was revealed to me that the PINE development team intents to support the .mailboxlist file to keep track of folder subscriptions in the future. This support would go a long way to solving what is probably going to become a large problem in the near future. I have a couple of questions though: 1. When is this support planned to be implemented? 2. Will .mailboxlist be updated by non-IMAP UNIX PINE? For my site, it is important that the file is. When the users are on UNIX, we don't use IMAP as we can use NFS with less of a performance penalty. However, these users may be hoping on PC-PINE or ECSMail too. Thanks, -- Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas billy@utdallas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 13:40:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14389; Tue, 19 Jul 94 13:40:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09813; Tue, 19 Jul 94 13:30:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [192.203.224.2] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09807; Tue, 19 Jul 94 13:30:39 -0700 Received: by admin.aurora.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3) id AA27248; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:29:30 -0500 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 15:29:30 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Lowe Subject: Recompile for ULTRIX 4.4 To: Pine Information List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have just installed ULTRIX 4.4 (upgrade over ULTRIX 4.3). Do we need to recompile PINE to use the new ULTRIX release? Thanks in advance. - Steve Lowe Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu 708 844 5290 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 13:46:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14676; Tue, 19 Jul 94 13:46:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09867; Tue, 19 Jul 94 13:31:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.162.16.1] by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09860; Tue, 19 Jul 94 13:31:55 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qQLoJ-000BZQC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 13:30 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA00927; Tue, 19 Jul 1994 11:40:06 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 11:40:06 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: PICO in "restricted mode"? To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I see references in the sources for PICO to a "restricted mode" What we are trying to do is to be able to invoke EITHER pine with a FIXED To:, no attachment, and NO "TO FILES" etc, so that we can give people we don't trust too much the ability to use this freindly mail rather than plain mail. Alternatively, we would like to be able to call up pico to edit a file, (prenamed) and not allow saving to other file names etc., reading from other files...the usual security limitation attempts. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 18:04:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26477; Tue, 19 Jul 94 18:04:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16335; Tue, 19 Jul 94 17:49:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16329; Tue, 19 Jul 94 17:49:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQPbY-00000DC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 17:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: steve@adam.com.au (Stephen White) Subject: Various suggestions for PINE Date: 20 Jul 1994 00:24:32 +0930 Message-Id: <30gpf8$pfp@eve.adam.com.au> Just a collection of small nits: 1) pico has an inverse "." on the top line; could this be removed? 2) Could pine have an option to turn off the menus? My users say that it's great for the first week, but then they want more screen space. 3) Several of my users don't like "pico". They prefer "joe". Could there be an option to go straight into the alternate editor after filling out the headers? 4) When suspending pine with ^Z, it sends a stop signal to all processes on that group (with "kill(0, SIGSTOP);" in pine/os.c). This causes a problem when pine isn't run from the main process. Perhaps "kill(getpid(), SIGSTOP);" would be better, since then the fork()/wait() in the calling program can then handle it however it pleases. Currently, the (in my case) menu program thinks it was asked to stop, and even if I get the menu program to ignore this signal, bash still gets it and stops anyway. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 19:50:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29258; Tue, 19 Jul 94 19:50:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09653; Tue, 19 Jul 94 19:39:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09647; Tue, 19 Jul 94 19:39:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQRJD-00000IC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 19:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: P.D.Bates@bradford.ac.uk (P.D.Bates) Subject: Stuck in debug mode Message-Id: <1994Jul18.120103.19123@bradford.ac.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 1994 12:01:03 GMT Hello there... Sorry to trouble everyone with this, but I'm not sure where-else to address this query to... I ftp'ed straight executables of pine and pico for the Sun onto my system... (because of not having, or rather experiencing problems with the C-compiler at our site) Pico works fine, but Pine is for some reason stuck in debug mode, so typing 'pine' is the equivalent of 'pine -d 4'? because I end up with a total number of 4 .pine-debug reports before they loop around again... Is this a problem with my system, or is pine (3.89 in this case) meant to default to debug mode? It doesn't seem to be experiencing any problems with my system, it just automatically gives me a debug report anyway. Can I cure this? Thanks a lot... Peter Bates, University of Bradford,UK. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 20:46:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00422; Tue, 19 Jul 94 20:46:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18860; Tue, 19 Jul 94 20:39:57 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18854; Tue, 19 Jul 94 20:39:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQSFA-00000BC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 20:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yhchen@eng.umd.edu (Yin-Hsin Chen) Subject: How to set "Content-Type" manually? Date: 20 Jul 1994 02:53:06 GMT Message-Id: <30i3ii$mra@mojo.eng.umd.edu> I am new to pine, so please forgive me simple question. How can I set MIME's "Content-Type" manually in pine? Also, for text file, how can I tell pine not to encode it in BASE64? Thanks for any information. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 23:31:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03509; Tue, 19 Jul 94 23:31:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13027; Tue, 19 Jul 94 23:19:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13021; Tue, 19 Jul 94 23:19:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQUdj-00000BC; Tue, 19 Jul 94 22:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wu2@crash.cts.com (David DiGioia) Subject: Re: Pine won't read /etc/aliases? Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 04:31:15 GMT Message-Id: References: <30gqgg$3sm@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> Jim Davis (jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU) wrote: : In article , David DiGioia wrote: : :Since I have an extensive /etc/aliases file, which points all likely : :addresses to the correct user@hostname or user@domainname, I think my : :problem would be solved if Pine would read the aliases file. Although : :mailtool reads it fine, Pine does not seem to. : : : /etc/aliases is read by sendmail, not pine (or mailtool). Pine (and : mailtool) hand off the message you want to send to sendmail to do the : real work of delivery. So it sounds to me like a sendmail problem. : You can use /usr/ucb/Mail on your Sun to troubleshoot this: try Thanks, Jim. I know about sendmail; the reason I suspect a Pine problems is that I have been using mailtool on the same system for 2 years without any major problems; all of a sudden I switch to Pine, and I have lots of problems. It's the old "if b after a, then a causes b"; I don't remember the Latin for it, and I know it's not logically valid. I'll have to do some more testing, and I'm sure your tips will come in handy. BTW, I have been checking the mail addresses that bounce using sendmail -bv, and they always seem to check out ok! .. David Di Gioia | wu2@cts.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 19 23:45:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03776; Tue, 19 Jul 94 23:45:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21238; Tue, 19 Jul 94 23:31:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21232; Tue, 19 Jul 94 23:31:08 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09320; Tue, 19 Jul 94 23:29:44 -0700 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 1994 23:29:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Billy Barron Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .mailboxlist In-Reply-To: <30h45e$ibj@news.utdallas.edu> Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Billy, As you know, Pine currently uses folder collection definitions for specifying what folders are visible. I can't say when .mailboxlist support might happen, but I would appreciate it if you would send me a note outlining what problem you are trying to solve, and how you would use .mailboxlist to solve it. Also, re NFS vs. IMAP performance: the tests I've run indicate that opening a large folder via IMAP is *much* faster than via NFS, although operations such as CREATE are faster via NFS (not surprising, since NFS is stateless). As for load on the server, it depends a lot on the mailbox format. I assume you are using Bky mbox, as opposed to, say, the more efficient Tenex format... (In the future you'll also have the option of using an IMAP server that stores messages in a pre-parsed format that makes for extremely efficient access.) -teg On 19 Jul 1994, Billy Barron wrote: > In my discussions with ISA Corporation regarding ECSMail, it was revealed > to me that the PINE development team intents to support the .mailboxlist > file to keep track of folder subscriptions in the future. This support > would go a long way to solving what is probably going to become a large > problem in the near future. I have a couple of questions though: > > 1. When is this support planned to be implemented? > > 2. Will .mailboxlist be updated by non-IMAP UNIX PINE? For my site, > it is important that the file is. When the users are on UNIX, > we don't use IMAP as we can use NFS with less of a performance > penalty. However, these users may be hoping on PC-PINE or > ECSMail too. > > Thanks, > > > -- > Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas > billy@utdallas.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 00:48:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05100; Wed, 20 Jul 94 00:48:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22239; Wed, 20 Jul 94 00:34:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22233; Wed, 20 Jul 94 00:34:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQVnS-00000FC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 00:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simcha@cimage.com (Simcha Lerner) Subject: New mail poll freq - how to change Date: 20 Jul 1994 07:06:06 GMT Message-Id: <30iicu$ama@dgsi.cimage.com> Is there a way to change how often pine polls for new mail? Thanks. -- Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner simcha@cimage.com Opinions expressed are my own. Do not assume that anyone else shares them. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 02:28:51 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07807; Wed, 20 Jul 94 02:28:51 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15784; Wed, 20 Jul 94 02:15:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from birds.wm.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15775; Wed, 20 Jul 94 02:14:58 -0700 Received: from flycatcher.birds.wm.edu by eagle.birds.wm.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AB20069; Wed, 20 Jul 1994 05:12:05 -0400 Received: by flycatcher.birds.wm.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA09809; Wed, 20 Jul 1994 05:12:02 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 05:12:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Andrew LaRoy Subject: UUCP-PC Pine version? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to use pc-pine with a uucp mailer (or other kluge to get mail from the pc to a UNIX machine without a slip link). To do this, I need to have pine simply write outgoing files to disk for later transport and have pine read incoming messages from an inbox. Is there some simple way to do this using the pre-compiled pc-pine versions, or do I have to (shutter, gasp) mess with source code? Thanks for the help! Sincerely, Andrew LaRoy main mailbox: aclaro@mail.wm.edu DKS 1057: Unable to locate: Desk Attempting to load: Shovel. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 02:48:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08167; Wed, 20 Jul 94 02:48:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15923; Wed, 20 Jul 94 02:25:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15917; Wed, 20 Jul 94 02:25:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQXe0-00000FC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 02:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: net_pistolero@airpcs.com Subject: Templates Date: 20 Jul 1994 09:08:47 GMT Message-Id: <30ipiv$et@news.cerf.net> Question: Is there anyway to use a template/form in Pine. I realize this is odd for a mail program but here is the reason. We have software that is being used by our markets. It would be great if they went into Pine and chose a template for a bug report or change/enhancment form. This way the bug or change request is logged and handled in one shot. Cuts down on paper, phone calls, etc.. Anyway thanks. /*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*/ /* Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed.*/ /* - Darth Vader */ /*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*/ Robert Ogren AirTouch Communications - PCS Group 390 N. Wiget Ln. #100 Walnut Creek,CA 94598 E-Mail: rmo@airpcs.com (510) 210-8816 Voice coruscant@aol.com (510) 210-8806 FAX http://airpcs.com/airpcsHome.html From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 07:22:43 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16121; Wed, 20 Jul 94 07:22:43 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20587; Wed, 20 Jul 94 07:07:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20581; Wed, 20 Jul 94 07:07:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQbzU-00000FC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 06:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tyuan@beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw () Subject: pine 3.89 for Solaris 2.3 wanted Date: 20 Jul 1994 12:16:24 GMT Message-Id: <30j4io$r3b@mall.sinica.edu.tw> Does anyone know where I can get a compiled pine 3.89 for Solaris 2.3? Thx in advance. Please e-mail me. -- Tein =========================================================== Tein Horng Yuan (°K¤ÑÐA) Email: tyuan@beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw =========================================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 09:10:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20396; Wed, 20 Jul 94 09:10:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00285; Wed, 20 Jul 94 08:50:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00279; Wed, 20 Jul 94 08:50:07 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA02666; Wed, 20 Jul 94 23:49:57 +0800 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 23:49:56 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: pine 3.89 for Solaris 2.3 wanted To: tyuan@beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30j4io$r3b@mall.sinica.edu.tw> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 20 Jul 1994 tyuan@beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get a compiled pine 3.89 for Solaris 2.3? > Thx in advance. Please e-mail me. Look to ftp.cac.washington.edu in /mail/UNIX-BINARIES Or, if you have access, I can put a copy on my account on gate.sinica.edu.tw Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 09:23:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21140; Wed, 20 Jul 94 09:23:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22824; Wed, 20 Jul 94 09:01:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from steadfast.teradyne.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22818; Wed, 20 Jul 94 09:01:47 -0700 Received: from laforge.ttd.teradyne.com by steadfast.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/jxh940509) id AA12643; Wed, 20 Jul 94 11:58:11 EDT Received: from columbus.ttd.teradyne.com by laforge.ttd.teradyne.com (4.1/SMI-4.1/TER-1.35/laforge-1.1) id AA09597; Wed, 20 Jul 94 10:57:20 CDT Received: by columbus.ttd.teradyne.com (16.6/15.6) id AA20856; Wed, 20 Jul 94 10:57:35 -0500 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 10:57:34 -0500 (CDT) From: Kenny Wickstrom Subject: Re: Stuck in debug mode To: "P.D.Bates" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Jul18.120103.19123@bradford.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 18 Jul 1994, P.D.Bates wrote: > > Hello there... > > Sorry to trouble everyone with this, > but I'm not sure where-else to > address this query to... > .... > Pico works fine, but Pine > is for some reason stuck > in debug mode, so typing 'pine' > is the equivalent of 'pine -d 4'? > because I end up with a total number > of 4 .pine-debug reports before they > loop around again... > > Is this a problem with my system, > or is pine (3.89 in this case) > meant to default to debug mode? > Here is a message I received from David Miller regarding this very problem/feature... |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| |Kenny Wickstrom | Breaking S/W is FUN | | |wickstro@ttd.teradyne.com | (708)940-9000 x2349 | | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| Forwarded message >>> >From dlm@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 10:55:02 1994 Date: Sat, 18 Jun 1994 18:21:00 -0700 (PDT) From: David L Miller To: Kenny Wickstrom Cc: Pine Bugs Subject: Re: ~/.pine-debugx files (fwd) Kenny, Pine keeps the last 4 .pine-debug files to help with troubleshooting if problems occur. You never know when they will come in handy, but... To turn them off, start Pine with the "-d0" command line option. Thanks for the reuqest! --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 09:41:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22203; Wed, 20 Jul 94 09:41:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01217; Wed, 20 Jul 94 09:27:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01205; Wed, 20 Jul 94 09:27:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQeCI-00000FC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 09:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Recompile for ULTRIX 4.4 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 08:37:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Why don't you try it and let us know? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Tue, 19 Jul 1994, Steve Lowe wrote: > > We have just installed ULTRIX 4.4 (upgrade over ULTRIX 4.3). Do we need > to recompile PINE to use the new ULTRIX release? > > Thanks in advance. > > - Steve Lowe > Aurora University slowe@admin.aurora.edu > 708 844 5290 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 11:54:13 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28927; Wed, 20 Jul 94 11:54:13 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04271; Wed, 20 Jul 94 11:41:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04261; Wed, 20 Jul 94 11:41:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQgGp-00000FC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 11:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sl5ns@cc.usu.edu Subject: HOW TO SEND ASCII ATTACHMENTS ? Message-Id: <1994Jul20.103356.23434@cc.usu.edu> Date: 20 Jul 94 10:33:56 MDT How do I avoid the attachments getting compressed ? I want them to be sent as ASCII Text Only ! Thanks... Umesh Limaye Utah State University Logan, UT 84321 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 12:47:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00609; Wed, 20 Jul 94 12:47:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27631; Wed, 20 Jul 94 12:31:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27623; Wed, 20 Jul 94 12:31:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQh3y-00000HC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 12:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: New mail poll freq - how to change Date: 20 Jul 1994 10:54:58 -0700 Message-Id: <30jodi$1ci@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <30iicu$ama@dgsi.cimage.com> In article <30iicu$ama@dgsi.cimage.com>, Simcha Lerner wrote: :Is there a way to change how often pine polls for new mail? : In the pine3.89 source code, it looks like NEW_MAIL_TIME, #define'd to be 150 seconds in pine/os.h, is the thing to change. I haven't tried that though. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 12:59:19 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00986; Wed, 20 Jul 94 12:59:19 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27913; Wed, 20 Jul 94 12:47:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from chert.CS.ORST.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27907; Wed, 20 Jul 94 12:47:01 -0700 Received: from python.CS.ORST.EDU by research.CS.ORST.EDU (4.1/1.30) id AA10633; Wed, 20 Jul 94 12:46:42 PDT Message-Id: <9407201946.AA10633@research.CS.ORST.EDU> To: sl5ns@cc.usu.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HOW TO SEND ASCII ATTACHMENTS ? From: Jason Thorpe Date: Wed, 20 Jul 94 12:46:10 PDT On 20 Jul 94 10:33:56 MDT sl5ns@cc.usu.edu wrote: > How do I avoid the attachments getting compressed ? > > I want them to be sent as ASCII Text Only ! Why not just read them into your message? > > > Thanks... > > > Umesh Limaye > Utah State University > Logan, UT 84321 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jason R. Thorpe thorpej@cs.orst.edu 754-1554 OSU CS Support CSWest Room 12 737-5567 CSOS NetBSD/Symmetry Project From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 15:10:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06760; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:10:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00771; Wed, 20 Jul 94 14:59:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from stein4.u.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00765; Wed, 20 Jul 94 14:59:02 -0700 Received: by stein4.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04314; Wed, 20 Jul 94 14:59:01 -0700 X-Sender: absweger@stein4.u.washington.edu Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 14:59:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Andrew B. Sweger" Subject: pine newsgroup mod proposal To: Pine Information Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not desiring to set a match to anyone's flamethrower... I presently only subscribe to the pine-info mailing list and not the comp.mail.pine newsgroup (so maybe this is my own problem). I'm wondering if there is interest here to split out comp.mail.pine into two groups. For example, comp.mail.pine-admin & [techinical/admin discussions] comp.mail.pine-user, [end-user questions/FAQs/etc.] where pine-admin would remain linked with pine-info (perhaps alias pine-admin -> pine-info would be good too). My purpose in following the discussions and occasionally participating in this list is to enhance the administration of my systems for my users. Maybe this is selfish of me. It doesn't require an enormous amount of work on my part to skip through the end-user questions (how to use the interface, people who don't read on-line help, etc.) to find the juicy bits (like PEM/PGP support debates [grin]). However, I'd much rather subscribe to a more technical channel from the sysadmin's perspective (the way pine-info used to be). I already have a pocketful of user's coming to me for answers. Is this an acceptable subject for the group? I'm sure I'll find out. -- / Andrew B. Sweger absweger@u.washington.edu // Computer Support Manager csg@fammed.washington.edu \\ Department of Family Medicine, HQ-30 (206) 543-2461 (Office) // UNIVERSITY OF WASHINGTON (206) 685-4337 (Voice Mail) / Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 685-0610 (FAX) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 15:12:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06891; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:12:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08379; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:02:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08373; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:02:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQjR6-00000FC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 14:44 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Cheese & Onions) Subject: Re: Help me use pine for newsgroups!! Date: 18 Jul 1994 18:17:42 GMT Message-Id: <30eh06$rth@panther.Gsu.EDU> References: <1994Jul15.190451.3317@cs.mun.ca> <30aqbc$ro5@news.ysu.edu> Barry Bouwsma (ag786@yfn.ysu.edu) wrote: : To post, you must use methods used by those with read-only access to : a news server, namely, posting by means of a mail-to-news gateway. gateway? which gateway? how does one discover the address(?) of a gateway? does it matter which one? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 15:49:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08748; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:49:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01622; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:38:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01616; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:38:10 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQk18-00000NC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: PINE and PC-NFS Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 14:54:18 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <9407181742.AA24735@craycomm.craycom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <9407181742.AA24735@craycomm.craycom.com> Are you using the real name of the server or a CNAME (alias)? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 18 Jul 1994, Bill Jensen wrote: > > I'm new to PINE and this list, and am having some trouble with PC-PINE > for PC-NFS. I've installed a couple of users, that work just fine, but > this morning I was unable to get a user going. PINE would not open > his INBOX, complaining that it couldn't find the host. The main > difference between the systems, is that the ones that work use PC-NFS > 4.0, and the one that doesn't is using PC-NFS 3.5. Does PC-PINE not > work with pre-4.0 PC-NFS? The PC has several file systems mounted from > that host, so it's not actually unreachable, but for some reason PINE > can't handle the host name. We can upgrade that PC-NFS, but I'd like > to be sure there's no other way, first. Thanks much for any assistance! > > > Bill Jensen Cray Communications, Inc. > Principal Engineer Engineering Dept. > (301)-317-7553 9020 Junction Drive > jensen@craycom.com Annapolis Junction, MD 20701 > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 15:50:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08797; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:50:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09201; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:42:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09195; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:42:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQk5N-00000OC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine 3.90 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 14:52:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1michaelCt5BqE.JAD@netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <1michaelCt5BqE.JAD@netcom.com> I'm afraid the answer it still "in a few weeks"... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Mon, 18 Jul 1994, Michael Orland wrote: > Does anyone know when Pine 3.90 will be released? Forgive me if this > question has already been discused into the ground. > > -- > Michael Orland 1michael@netcom.com > -- > /////////////// //////////// Michael Orland 1michael@netcom.com > /// /// /// // // > /// /// /// // // "Room service? Send up a larger room" > /// /// /// //////////// - Groucho Marx > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 15:55:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09026; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:55:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09327; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:48:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09321; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:48:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQk8R-00000WC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Phu Luong Subject: .sig Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 21:33:50 GMT when I reply to a message, my dot sig is at the top how do I fix it so it goes on the bottom? thanks phu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 16:04:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09468; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:04:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09444; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:53:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09438; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:53:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQkCF-00000FC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mas8y@holmes.acc.virginia.edu (Melanie A. Swain) Subject: Control characters in pico Message-Id: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 19:10:26 GMT Hi, Is there a way to imbed control characters into a file created with pico? Thanks, Melanie email: mas8y@virginia.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 16:12:25 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09830; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:12:25 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02120; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:02:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02114; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:01:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQkMM-00000HC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: addressbook and folder formats? Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 15:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30gv8n$dd1@agate.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30gv8n$dd1@agate.berkeley.edu> In the Pine Technical Notes, ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/pine-tech-notes (also included in the source distribution). |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 19 Jul 1994 sean@oak.his.ucsf.edu wrote: > Where are the formats of the addressbook and folders documented? > > Thanks > > Sean McGrath - Voice: 510.653.8387 > Email: sean@oak.his.ucsf.edu > Paper: 638 66th st, Oakland Ca, 94609 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 16:26:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10692; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:26:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02521; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:18:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02515; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:18:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQkZz-00000IC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:57 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: New mail poll freq - how to change Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 13:29:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30iicu$ama@dgsi.cimage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30iicu$ama@dgsi.cimage.com> Not without recompiling... On 20 Jul 1994, Simcha Lerner wrote: > Is there a way to change how often pine polls for new mail? > > Thanks. > > -- > Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner > simcha@cimage.com > Opinions expressed are my own. Do not assume that anyone else shares them. > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 16:31:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10914; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:31:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02499; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:18:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02493; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:18:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQkap-00000FC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Templates Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 13:32:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30ipiv$et@news.cerf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30ipiv$et@news.cerf.net> Not yet..... On 20 Jul 1994 net_pistolero@airpcs.com wrote: > > Question: Is there anyway to use a template/form in Pine. > I realize this is odd for a mail program but here is the reason. > We have software that is being used by our markets. It would be > great if they went into Pine and chose a template for a bug report > or change/enhancment form. This way the bug or change request is > logged and handled in one shot. Cuts down on paper, phone calls, etc.. > > Anyway thanks. > > /*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*/ > /* Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed.*/ > /* - Darth Vader */ > /*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*/ > Robert Ogren > AirTouch Communications - PCS Group > 390 N. Wiget Ln. #100 > Walnut Creek,CA 94598 E-Mail: rmo@airpcs.com > (510) 210-8816 Voice coruscant@aol.com > (510) 210-8806 FAX http://airpcs.com/airpcsHome.html > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 16:32:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10937; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:32:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02513; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:18:23 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02507; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:18:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQkax-00000JC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 15:58 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: UUCP-PC Pine version? Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 13:35:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: You have two choices: 1. Dig into the source. 2. Wait for us to implement disconnected operation. --DLM On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, Andrew LaRoy wrote: > I would like to use pc-pine with a uucp mailer (or other kluge to > get mail from the pc to a UNIX machine without a slip link). To do this, > I need to have pine simply write outgoing files to disk for later > transport and have pine read incoming messages from an inbox. Is there > some simple way to do this using the pre-compiled pc-pine versions, or do I > have to (shutter, gasp) mess with source code? > Thanks for the help! > > Sincerely, > Andrew LaRoy > main mailbox: aclaro@mail.wm.edu > DKS 1057: Unable to locate: Desk > Attempting to load: Shovel. > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 17:11:51 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13463; Wed, 20 Jul 94 17:11:51 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10911; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:58:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post2.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10905; Wed, 20 Jul 94 16:58:11 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HEXQ8N884G8WWCV0@asu.edu>; Wed, 20 Jul 1994 16:58:05 MST Received: from icsrxp ([129.219.3.10]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113618>; Wed, 20 Jul 1994 16:57:55 -0700 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 1994 16:59:44 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Extra headers To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Some mail sent with Pine 3.89 ends up with "Reply-To:" and "Sender:" headers, regardless of whether it is actually sent with the Reply option. These headers are correct but are unwanted. Thanks. -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 17:31:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14116; Wed, 20 Jul 94 17:31:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11540; Wed, 20 Jul 94 17:22:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aaron.music.qc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11532; Wed, 20 Jul 94 17:22:36 -0700 Received: from igor by aaron.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA19080; Wed, 20 Jul 94 20:06:41 -0500 Received: by igor.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0S) id AA18031; Wed, 20 Jul 94 20:21:39 -0400 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 94 20:21:39 -0400 From: David Richards Message-Id: <9407210021.AA18031@igor.music.qc.edu> To: luong@freenet.scri.fsu.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: (message from Phu Luong on Wed, 20 Jul 1994 21:33:50 GMT) Subject: Re: .sig >>>>> "Phu" == Phu Luong writes: Phu> when I reply to a message, my dot sig is at the top how do I Phu> fix it so it goes on the bottom? feature-list is a comma separated list of features. You use the feature-list to specify various things including the placement of your .signature file. Here's my feature list from my .pinerc file: feature-list=enable-unix-pipe-cmd, enable-suspend, enable-alternate-editor-cmd, quit-without-confirm, enable-jump-shortcut, enable-goto-cmd, signature-at-bottom # this is the part you're looking for!! Good-luck !! Dave ========================================== David Richards The Aaron Copland School of Music at Queens College E-mail: richards@aaron.music.qc.edu Voice : 1-(718)-997-3874 ========================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 18:05:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15019; Wed, 20 Jul 94 18:05:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04657; Wed, 20 Jul 94 17:54:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04651; Wed, 20 Jul 94 17:54:49 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQm3e-00000HC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 17:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dob@umich.edu (David McCullough Dobson) Subject: Remapping pine keys Date: 20 Jul 1994 20:53:04 GMT Message-Id: <30k2rg$nnt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> Is there any way to remap keys in pine? I am particularly interested in using Esc instead of ^C and anything instead of ^^. Thanks, Dave From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 21:49:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19619; Wed, 20 Jul 94 21:49:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14942; Wed, 20 Jul 94 21:33:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14936; Wed, 20 Jul 94 21:33:00 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQpXj-00000FC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 21:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nishri@gpu.utcc.utoronto.ca (Alex Nishri) Subject: Re: New mail poll freq - how to change Message-Id: References: <30iicu$ama@dgsi.cimage.com> <30jodi$1ci@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 02:11:20 GMT In article <30jodi$1ci@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU>, Jim Davis wrote: >In article <30iicu$ama@dgsi.cimage.com>, >Simcha Lerner wrote: >:Is there a way to change how often pine polls for new mail? >: > >In the pine3.89 source code, it looks like NEW_MAIL_TIME, #define'd to >be 150 seconds in pine/os.h, is the thing to change. I haven't tried >that though. Is it 150 seconds for pc-pine imap too? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 22:05:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19975; Wed, 20 Jul 94 22:05:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07563; Wed, 20 Jul 94 21:42:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07557; Wed, 20 Jul 94 21:42:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQpeh-00000IC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 21:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp@questor.org Subject: Outgoing mail shows wrong time - how to fix? Date: 20 Jul 1994 20:34:31 -0700 Message-Id: <30kqc7$rn@questor.org> I am running Pine 3.89 on Linux 1.09 -- I have my system clock set to GMT, but would like Pine to display the message as being sent in Local time (PDT at the moment). Is there a variable in .pinerc or somewhere else that can be set? I don't seem to find any reference to this when scanning Pine's "help" for either "TZ, Zone, Time" et cetera. Any help would be appreciated. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 20 23:58:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22277; Wed, 20 Jul 94 23:58:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08981; Wed, 20 Jul 94 23:44:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08975; Wed, 20 Jul 94 23:44:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQrak-00000JC; Wed, 20 Jul 94 23:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: eng10380@leonis.nus.sg (GOH LIU KANG) Subject: Reply-To: Date: 21 Jul 1994 06:07:35 GMT Message-Id: <30l3b7$vr@nuscc.nus.sg> Hi, probably an FAQ. But how do I get the Reply-To: inserted in the outgoing message header? A net-mail reply would be appreciated. Thanks. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 03:07:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26668; Thu, 21 Jul 94 03:07:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11298; Thu, 21 Jul 94 02:49:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11292; Thu, 21 Jul 94 02:49:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQuUv-00000aC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 02:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dadmlrj@unidhp.uni-c.dk (Lars Rikart Jensen) Subject: Extracting MIME from textfile Date: 21 Jul 1994 09:24:57 GMT Message-Id: <30let9$sta@news.uni-c.dk> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 07:51:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03770; Thu, 21 Jul 94 07:51:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22444; Thu, 21 Jul 94 07:33:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22432; Thu, 21 Jul 94 07:33:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQyvo-00000BC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 07:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ua339@fim.uni-erlangen.de (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Remapping pine keys Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 13:56:05 GMT Message-Id: <30luplFek2@uni-erlangen.de> References: <30k2rg$nnt@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu> In a previous article, dob@umich.edu (David McCullough Dobson) says: >Is there any way to remap keys in pine? I am particularly interested in >using Esc instead of ^C and anything instead of ^^. The problem with using ESC is that it is the prefix character used for arrow keys on many terminals. Pine can figure out whether you typed an arrow key or an ESC if it is followed by another character (I believe Pine also understands a few other ESC sequences from ISO 2022). But, if no character follows the ESC, as if you've decided to cancel a message in composition, Pine can't tell if you've just hit ESC, or an arrow key, whose remaining characters (perhaps [A ) will arrive shortly if a packet got lost somewhere. I guess this could work in the highlighted prompt (PINE EMERGENCY EXIT: Really ABORT, dump CORE, and reboot the SYSTEM right NOW??!? [y/n/^C]) where a single character is expected. Also, you can start Pine in a mode where function keys execute the commands, instead of control characters. Barry Bouwsma or usually From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 08:10:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04173; Thu, 21 Jul 94 08:10:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15358; Thu, 21 Jul 94 07:44:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15352; Thu, 21 Jul 94 07:43:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQz2C-00000HC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 07:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ua339@fim.uni-erlangen.de (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Extra headers Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 14:01:34 GMT Message-Id: <30lv3uFenc@uni-erlangen.de> References: In a previous article, Shah@ASU.Edu (Shahjehan Khatri) says: >Some mail sent with Pine 3.89 ends up with "Reply-To:" and "Sender:" These headers appear when your composition is postponed. There is a good reason for them, and Pine3.90 will make use of them to permit you to customize headers within Pine to redirect replies (as I have done with this newspost; mailing list victims will probably see the list as the reply field). At present it's possible for you to manually edit them to redirect mail replies. Barry Bouwsma and on better days From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 08:19:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04450; Thu, 21 Jul 94 08:19:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22781; Thu, 21 Jul 94 07:58:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22775; Thu, 21 Jul 94 07:58:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qQzLL-00000BC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 07:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ua339@fim.uni-erlangen.de (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: pine newsgroup mod proposal Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 14:21:22 GMT Message-Id: <30m092Ff12@uni-erlangen.de> References: In a previous article, absweger@u.washington.edu ("Andrew B. Sweger") says: >I'm wondering >if there is interest here to split out comp.mail.pine into two groups. For >example, > > comp.mail.pine-admin & [techinical/admin discussions] > comp.mail.pine-user, [end-user questions/FAQs/etc.] > >where pine-admin would remain linked with pine-info >grin]). However, I'd much rather subscribe to a more technical channel >from the sysadmin's perspective (the way pine-info used to be). I would suggest, rather than create a parallel group under comp.mail, that a new hierarchy under comp.mail.pine be created. comp.mail.pine.* , such as, say, comp.mail.pine.tech, comp.mail.pine.misc (which could serve as todays' comp.mail.pine, eventually comp.mail.pine as a newsgroup itself could be removed and replaced by the misc group if so desired). The reason being that there is a single group for Elm, and it is better Also, pine-announce could be gatewayed to a comp.mail.pine.announce (moderated). And comp.mail.pine.bugs, if there is interest... not to create so many parallel groups. Barry Bouwsma and when packets permit From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 08:51:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05794; Thu, 21 Jul 94 08:51:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23374; Thu, 21 Jul 94 08:31:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23368; Thu, 21 Jul 94 08:31:09 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20810; Thu, 21 Jul 94 23:31:16 +0800 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 23:31:15 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Reply-To: To: GOH LIU KANG Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30l3b7$vr@nuscc.nus.sg> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 21 Jul 1994, GOH LIU KANG wrote: > Hi, probably an FAQ. But how do I get the Reply-To: inserted in the > outgoing message header? A net-mail reply would be appreciated. > Thanks. Wait just a *few weeks* for pine 3.90..... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 09:49:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08875; Thu, 21 Jul 94 09:49:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17537; Thu, 21 Jul 94 09:27:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post1.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17521; Thu, 21 Jul 94 09:27:27 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HEYORQV7HS8WWN1I@asu.edu>; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:27:01 MST Received: from icsrxp ([129.219.3.10]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113650>; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:26:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 09:28:36 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Re: Extra headers In-Reply-To: <30lv3uFenc@uni-erlangen.de> To: Barry Bouwsma Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Reply-To: Shahjehan Khatri Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT > >Some mail sent with Pine 3.89 ends up with "Reply-To:" and "Sender:" > > These headers appear when your composition is postponed. Thanks! > There is a good reason for them, Pardon me, I don't understand. What's a good reason for adding these headers without the user having the foggiest? -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 11:42:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13801; Thu, 21 Jul 94 11:42:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20069; Thu, 21 Jul 94 11:30:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from netcom14.netcom.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20063; Thu, 21 Jul 94 11:30:03 -0700 Received: by netcom14.netcom.com (8.6.8.1/Netcom) id LAA18693; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 11:30:00 -0700 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 11:30:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Schow-Backstage Productions Subject: How to unsubscribe? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do I unsubscribe to this list? I think this list is way past ready for being a newsgroup. I don't need the mail traffic. Thanks in advance ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 13:29:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17897; Thu, 21 Jul 94 13:29:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29430; Thu, 21 Jul 94 13:12:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from freenet3.scri.fsu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29424; Thu, 21 Jul 94 13:12:06 -0700 Received: by freenet3.scri.fsu.edu id AA14824 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:00:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:00:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Phu Luong Subject: Re: .sig To: David Richards Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9407210021.AA18031@igor.music.qc.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII can I send you my pinerc so you can see what it looks like and fix it for me? phu On Wed, 20 Jul 1994, David Richards wrote: > >>>>> "Phu" == Phu Luong writes: > > Phu> when I reply to a message, my dot sig is at the top how do I > Phu> fix it so it goes on the bottom? > > feature-list is a comma separated list of features. You use the feature-list > to specify various things including the placement of your .signature file. > Here's my feature list from my .pinerc file: > > feature-list=enable-unix-pipe-cmd, > enable-suspend, > enable-alternate-editor-cmd, > quit-without-confirm, > enable-jump-shortcut, > enable-goto-cmd, > signature-at-bottom # this is the part you're looking for!! > > > Good-luck !! > Dave > ========================================== > David Richards > The Aaron Copland School of Music > at Queens College > E-mail: richards@aaron.music.qc.edu > Voice : 1-(718)-997-3874 > ========================================== > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 13:31:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17999; Thu, 21 Jul 94 13:31:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29503; Thu, 21 Jul 94 13:16:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aaron.music.qc.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29497; Thu, 21 Jul 94 13:16:34 -0700 Received: from igor by aaron.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA03703; Thu, 21 Jul 94 16:00:29 -0500 Received: by igor.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0S) id AA18460; Thu, 21 Jul 94 16:15:57 -0400 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 16:15:54 -0400 (EDT) From: "David N. Richards" Subject: Re: .sig To: Phu Luong Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Jul 1994, Phu Luong wrote: > > can I send you my pinerc so you can see what it looks > like and fix it for me? > > Yes - But I'll need a day or two so please be patient (things have been insane on my end the last couple of days) ========================================== David Richards The Aaron Copland School of Music at Queens College E-mail: richards@aaron.music.qc.edu Voice : 1-(718)-997-3874 ========================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 14:06:29 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19061; Thu, 21 Jul 94 14:06:29 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22998; Thu, 21 Jul 94 13:44:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22986; Thu, 21 Jul 94 13:44:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qR4jG-00000HC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 13:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU (Jim Davis) Subject: Re: pine 3.89 for Solaris 2.3 wanted Date: 21 Jul 1994 11:29:37 -0700 Message-Id: <30meqh$1on@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> References: <30j4io$r3b@mall.sinica.edu.tw> In article , Ed Greshko wrote: :On 20 Jul 1994 tyuan@beta.wsl.sinica.edu.tw wrote: : :> Does anyone know where I can get a compiled pine 3.89 for Solaris 2.3? : : Look to ftp.cac.washington.edu in /mail/UNIX-BINARIES One minor point I didn't see mentioned in the tech-notes (or elsewhere); Solaris 2.x uses the System V mail setup, so the spool directory is in the mail group, mode 775, and user's mail files are also in the mail group, mode 770. Hence pine has to be installed setgid mail. (This has some interesting consequences for the system("passwd") problem I mentioned earlier.) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 16:33:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25017; Thu, 21 Jul 94 16:33:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03297; Thu, 21 Jul 94 16:20:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03289; Thu, 21 Jul 94 16:19:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qR79n-00000BC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 16:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bparker@psycfrnd.interaccess.com (Ben Parker) Subject: -d0 flag causes hang on exit from Pine Date: 21 Jul 94 17:49:53 GMT Message-Id: I am tired of the collection of .pine-debug* files in my home directory. I know there is a compiler switch that will turn it off, but I can't get my sysadmin to recompile. So I was please to learn of the -d0 switch that can be used on the command line calling pine. It tried it, but I get a system hang when exiting Pine. If I set -d1 then I still get some debug files, but i can exit ok. Any clues on why the exit hang with -d0? Thanks. -- Ben Parker bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 18:39:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29809; Thu, 21 Jul 94 18:39:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05935; Thu, 21 Jul 94 18:31:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05929; Thu, 21 Jul 94 18:31:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qR98S-00000BC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 18:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: silliker@nbnet.nb.ca (Andrew Silliker) Subject: Having PINE retrive from PoP3 mailbox? Message-Id: Date: 22 Jul 94 00:26:03 GMT Can anyone point me to some documentation on, or perhaps tell me, how to retreive mail from a popmail server with PINE? This info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 18:47:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29986; Thu, 21 Jul 94 18:47:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05949; Thu, 21 Jul 94 18:32:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05943; Thu, 21 Jul 94 18:32:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qR994-00000HC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 18:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: d250@j51.com (Dean Penn) Subject: Re: Reply-To: Message-Id: <30mouk$i4o@j51.com> Date: 21 Jul 94 21:22:28 GMT References: <30l3b7$vr@nuscc.nus.sg> GOH LIU KANG (eng10380@leonis.nus.sg) wrote: : Hi, probably an FAQ. But how do I get the Reply-To: inserted in the : outgoing message header? A net-mail reply would be appreciated. : Thanks Create a file named "elmheader" . In it write: Reply-To: eng10380@leonis.nus.sg and place it in your .elm directory. . From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 19:51:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01404; Thu, 21 Jul 94 19:51:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09779; Thu, 21 Jul 94 19:44:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09771; Thu, 21 Jul 94 19:44:39 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA28245; Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:45:06 +0800 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 10:45:06 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Reply-To: To: Dean Penn Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30mouk$i4o@j51.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 21 Jul 1994, Dean Penn wrote: > GOH LIU KANG (eng10380@leonis.nus.sg) wrote: > : Hi, probably an FAQ. But how do I get the Reply-To: inserted in the > : outgoing message header? A net-mail reply would be appreciated. > : Thanks > > Create a file named "elmheader" . In it write: > > Reply-To: eng10380@leonis.nus.sg > > and place it in your .elm directory. Errrr.....excuse me....I'd thought this was the group to discuss "pine"????? Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 20:29:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02038; Thu, 21 Jul 94 20:29:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12061; Thu, 21 Jul 94 20:23:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from icm1.icp.net by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12053; Thu, 21 Jul 94 20:23:53 -0700 Received: from j51.com (j51.com [165.254.114.51]) by icm1.icp.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA19569 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 1994 23:23:51 -0400 From: d250@j51.com Received: by j51.com id AA24683; Thu, 21 Jul 94 23:25:03 EDT Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 23:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Reply-To: (fwd) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 23:23:02 -0400 (EDT) From:d250@j51.com To: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Reply-To: On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 21 Jul 1994, Dean Penn wrote: > > > GOH LIU KANG (eng10380@leonis.nus.sg) wrote: > > : Hi, probably an FAQ. But how do I get the Reply-To: inserted in the > > : outgoing message header? A net-mail reply would be appreciated. > > : Thanks > > > > Create a file named "elmheader" . In it write: > > > > Reply-To: eng10380@leonis.nus.sg > > > > and place it in your .elm directory. > > > Errrr.....excuse me....I'd thought this was the group to > discuss "pine"????? > > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > Should be, but the Carrier does strange things. After writing an answer to this gentleman and sending it - I received the following message: Post a followup... Responses have been directed to the following newsgroups comp.mail.elm comp.mail.pine So go figure...... Thanks for your 'concern.' From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 21:58:39 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03637; Thu, 21 Jul 94 21:58:39 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12461; Thu, 21 Jul 94 21:50:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12455; Thu, 21 Jul 94 21:50:42 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRCHF-00000BC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 21:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dean@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu (Dean Pentcheff) Subject: Should we upgrade? Date: 21 Jul 1994 23:34:05 -0400 Message-Id: <30nend$bvt@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu> We're running Pine 3.87 at the moment (with great joy and success). What's the most recent version? And, speaking from a harried system administrator's point of view, is there good reason to upgrade? Thanks for the info and opinions. -Dean -- N. Dean Pentcheff Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) Internet addresses: pentcheff@pascal.acm.org or dean@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu WWW link: home page From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 22:00:24 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03691; Thu, 21 Jul 94 22:00:24 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17182; Thu, 21 Jul 94 21:50:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17176; Thu, 21 Jul 94 21:50:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRCIJ-00000HC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 21:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kihyun@colt (Park, kihyun) Subject: Re: vi editor Message-Id: <1994Jul22.031851.9553@nic.sait.samsung.co.kr> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 94 03:18:51 GMT HELP on the Main menu gives that, 11. Alternate Editor for Composing Messages There are two ways to get Pine to use an alternate editor for composing messages. One option is to choose an editor ahead of time and set the "editor" variable in your Pine configuration file. If this is done, "^_ Alt Edit" will show in the menu of the composer. The second option is to enable the feature "enable-alternate-editor-cmd" in the Pine configuration variable "feature-list". Then you can give the "^_" command while in the composer even if it is not shown on the menu. You will be prompted for the name of the editor to invoke. At present you cannot edit the header with the alternate editor. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 22:48:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04701; Thu, 21 Jul 94 22:48:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13061; Thu, 21 Jul 94 22:40:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13055; Thu, 21 Jul 94 22:40:56 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRD6H-00000BC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 22:24 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: -d0 flag causes hang on exit from Pine Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 22:08:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: No clues, but could you send details of your configuration and problem to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu? We would like to track down the problem in case there is a bug that needs to be fixed in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 21 Jul 1994, Ben Parker wrote: > I am tired of the collection of .pine-debug* files in my home directory. > I know there is a compiler switch that will turn it off, but I can't get > my sysadmin to recompile. So I was please to learn of the -d0 switch > that can be used on the command line calling pine. It tried it, but I > get a system hang when exiting Pine. If I set -d1 then I still get some > debug files, but i can exit ok. > > Any clues on why the exit hang with -d0? > > Thanks. > > -- > Ben Parker bparker@interaccess.com 71450.2735@compuserve.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 21 22:49:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04738; Thu, 21 Jul 94 22:49:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19542; Thu, 21 Jul 94 22:41:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19534; Thu, 21 Jul 94 22:41:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRD6Z-00000HC; Thu, 21 Jul 94 22:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Should we upgrade? Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 22:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30nend$bvt@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30nend$bvt@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu> There are some potentially severe bugs in Pine 3.87 that are fixed in Pine 3.89. Pine 3.90 will be coming out soon, but it will be considered a beta release since there is a large quantity of relatively new code in it. We are hoping to nail down a stable 3.9x by the start of Fall Quarter... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 21 Jul 1994, Dean Pentcheff wrote: > We're running Pine 3.87 at the moment (with great joy and success). > What's the most recent version? And, speaking from a harried system > administrator's point of view, is there good reason to upgrade? > > Thanks for the info and opinions. > > -Dean > -- > N. Dean Pentcheff > Biological Sciences, Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia SC 29208 (803-777-3936) > Internet addresses: pentcheff@pascal.acm.org or dean@tbone.biol.scarolina.edu > WWW link: home page > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 00:48:04 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07093; Fri, 22 Jul 94 00:48:04 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14458; Fri, 22 Jul 94 00:27:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14452; Fri, 22 Jul 94 00:27:15 -0700 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with SMTP (8.6.5:29/EUnetD-2.4.3.g) via EUnet id JAA12607; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:28:11 +0200 Received: from trixi.atlas.de atlas by pink.atlas.de (4.1/GEN-1.0.7) via CASEnet for mail.germany.eu.net id AA19658; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:27:01 +0200 Received: by trixi.atlas.de (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11099; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:28:05 +0100 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 09:28:02 +0100 (WET DST) From: Bodo Randt Subject: Re: Detecting incoming mail in more than one inbox To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use the filter program for sorting my incoming mail and at each login an awk program checks the log file of filter and sends me a summary mail of all mails that were sorted by filter. This gives you enough overview not to miss any important (interesting) presorted mail. I assume there is a log file for procmail etc. too. A small shell script in your .login (for csh) invokes all: #!/bin/sh awk -f $HOME/.elm/filter.log.awk $HOME/.elm/filterlog \ | elm -s FilterLog $USER date > $HOME/.elm/filterlog --------------------------------------------------------------- The log of filter looks like this: Mail from dlm@cac.washington.edu about Re: Should we upgrade? (addressed to pine-info@cac.washington.edu) SAVED in file "/usr1/users/bodo/mail/pine" by rule #1 Mail from bodo about FilterLog PUT in mailbox: the default action -------------------------------------------------------------- ##################################################################### # awk-script filter.log.awk ######################################## # # process the filter log file in ~/.elm/filterlog and mail the result # to the user /WET DST/ { print $0 # get time interval of log file } /^Mail from/ { from = $3 if ((i=index($0,"about"))>0) subject = substr($0,i+6) # save all subjects } /about/ { i=index($0,"about") subject = substr($0,i+6) # subject may be here too } /SAVED/ { saved ++ tmp = $4 i = split(tmp,arr,"/") folder =substr(arr[i],1,length(arr[i])-1) # get folder of applied rule print folder " " subject } ############################################################################# Bodo Randt _________________________________________________________________________ | Atlas Elektronik GmbH D-28305 Bremen | | Bodo Randt Simulation Division Sebaldsbruecker Heerstr. 235 | | +49/421/457-3172 -4120 fax | |___________ randt@atlas.de ______________________________| From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 02:16:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09661; Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:16:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15760; Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:01:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15754; Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:01:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRGBl-00000HC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 01:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Pine Dies after i Compose Message-Id: <1994Jul22.042210.2542@weston.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 04:22:10 GMT I am running Pine on an RS/6000 AIX v3.2.4. I can sedn one message, but can not send a second. When I hit C to compose the second time, it locks up my terminal. I can go to another terminal and Pine is still running. I have run Pine with a Debug level of nine, and have received the following output after sending the message: q_status_message, Count 1, "Message sent." diff: 4, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834841 ---- MAIN_MENU_SCREEN ---- new mail called (0 0 2) set_titlebar - style: 0 current_message:0 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(0) returns:0 ? Help 0 1 O OTHER CMDS 0 2 (null) (null) 14 3 L [ListFldrs 13 4 P PrevCmd 27 5 N NextCmd 27 6 (null) (null) 41 7 (null) (null) 41 8 R RelNotes 54 9 K KBLock 54 10 (null) (null) 69 11 (null) (null) 69 row: -2, real_row: 22, column: 0 diff: 1, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834842 Select readfds:1 timeval:2,0 Select on tty returned 0 Read char returning: 0 ^@ Read command returning: 0 ^@ new mail called (0 0 1) check_point(BadTime) ******** new mail returning -1 ******** diff: 1, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834844 Select readfds:1 timeval:2,0 Select on tty returned 0 Read char returning: 0 ^@ Read command returning: 0 ^@ new mail called (0 0 1) diff: -1, displayed_time: 774834841, now: 774834846 output_message(Message sent.) STATUS DISPE command:0, disp:1, length:0, Time:Thu Jul 21 18:54:06 1994 Select readfds:1 timeval:150,0 Select on tty returned 1 Read returned 1 Read char returning: 99 c Read command returning: 99 c New_mail_count zeroed ---- COMPOSE SCREEN (not in pico yet) ---- === send called === set_titlebar - style: 0 current_message:0 current_pl: 0 total_pl: 0 comatose(0) returns:flags: 0 new mail called (2ff7ecac 0 0) check_point(GoodTime) Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Thu Jul 21 18:56:49 1994 New mail checked Ping complete: Thu Jul 21 18:56:49 1994 ******** new mail returning -1 ******** new mail called (2ff7ecac 0 0) check_point(GoodTime) Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Thu Jul 21 18:59:19 1994 New mail checked Ping complete: Thu Jul 21 18:59:19 1994 ******** new mail returning -1 ******** new mail called (2ff7ecac 0 0) check_point(GoodTime) Mail_Ping(mail_stream): Thu Jul 21 19:01:49 1994 New mail checked Ping complete: Thu Jul 21 19:01:49 1994 It contiues in the loop of checking new mail and returning -1. The -1 seemed like an error to me. Does anyone have any suggestions of things to try? Thanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 02:34:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09959; Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:34:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00943; Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:21:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00935; Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:21:24 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRGU0-00000IC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: daniel@crl.com (Daniel M. Gonnella) Subject: How do you "Bounce" e-mail Date: 22 Jul 1994 01:54:57 -0700 Message-Id: <30o1h1$gms@crl3.crl.com> From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 03:06:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10618; Fri, 22 Jul 94 03:06:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16217; Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:41:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16211; Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:41:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRGob-00000FC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 02:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: daniel@crl.com (Daniel M. Gonnella) Subject: How do you "Bounce" e-mail Date: 22 Jul 1994 02:00:44 -0700 Message-Id: <30o1rs$gp1@crl3.crl.com> I am going to Hawaii for two weeks in early August and was wondering how to bounce incoming internet e-mail. I am going to use my CompuServe address as CompuServe has a POP in Hawaii. Can this be done with Pine? From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 04:17:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12866; Fri, 22 Jul 94 04:17:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06788; Fri, 22 Jul 94 04:01:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06777; Fri, 22 Jul 94 04:01:32 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA03522; Fri, 22 Jul 94 18:24:35 +0800 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 18:24:35 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: How do you "Bounce" e-mail To: "Daniel M. Gonnella" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30o1h1$gms@crl3.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I suppose the subject said it all.... :-) :-) You wait for pine3.90......coming soon to an ftp site nearest you... Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 04:32:56 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13209; Fri, 22 Jul 94 04:32:56 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08219; Fri, 22 Jul 94 04:21:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08213; Fri, 22 Jul 94 04:21:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRIOi-00000FC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 04:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dadmlrj@unidhp.uni-c.dk (Lars Rikart Jensen) Subject: Extracting MIME from textfile Date: 22 Jul 1994 10:54:08 GMT Message-Id: <30o8gh$42c@news.uni-c.dk> How do i extract a MIME from a textfile? It's an old saved mail. Can i do it with Pine or do i need another piece of software. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 06:31:27 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16016; Fri, 22 Jul 94 06:31:27 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19038; Fri, 22 Jul 94 06:12:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19032; Fri, 22 Jul 94 06:12:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRK9J-00000FC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 05:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: flakebit@ksu.ksu.edu (Blake Fithen) Subject: line length in pine Date: 22 Jul 1994 04:21:50 -0500 Message-Id: <30o33e$q5h@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> Is there any way to set the default line length in pine? Thanks for your time. reply here or mail me - flakebit@ksu.ksu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 07:47:34 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17703; Fri, 22 Jul 94 07:47:34 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17999; Fri, 22 Jul 94 07:22:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17988; Fri, 22 Jul 94 07:22:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRLEL-00000dC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 07:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: malcor@class.class.org (Dan Malcor-LA Times) Subject: Left-Arrow mapping Date: 22 Jul 1994 14:03:43 GMT Message-Id: <30ojjv$lpf@news.cerf.net> I use lynx as a menu system (as well as a web browser). So of course one of teh items is E-Mail via Pine. The problem comes in that after training the user to hit "Left-Arrow" to back out of everything in lynx, it does nothing in Pine (except complain). Is there a fix for this? -- ====================================================================== Dan Malcor | Los Angeles Times - Editorial Systems Internet: malcor@class.org | Systems Analyst / Programmer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 08:13:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18845; Fri, 22 Jul 94 08:13:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19210; Fri, 22 Jul 94 07:41:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mason1.gmu.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19202; Fri, 22 Jul 94 07:41:48 -0700 Received: by mason1.gmu.edu (5.65/DEC-Ultrix/4.3/GMUv3) id AA14309; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 10:41:46 -0400 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 10:41:45 -0400 (EDT) From: "Sherry H. Lake" Subject: Pico Question - CTRL-SPACE To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I received the following question from one of our users. Can anyone offer my an advice to give him? I don't think the control sequences can be changed in pico. When I tried CTRL-SPACE, using vt100 emulation with telnet program CUTCP, I just get a space (CTRL-@ does nothing). > I'm getting a bit irritated at a misfeature of pico. Three quick > control-spaces wakes up my modem, dropping the connection. Control-space > is used by pico to navigate. Could it be changed? Thanks.... Sherry H. Lake slake@gmu.edu Electronic Mail Consultant George Mason University From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 09:33:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22450; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:33:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24717; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:09:32 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24711; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:09:18 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA07058; Sat, 23 Jul 94 00:09:55 +0800 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 00:09:54 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: How do you "Bounce" e-mail To: "Daniel M. Gonnella" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30o1rs$gp1@crl3.crl.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 22 Jul 1994, Daniel M. Gonnella wrote: > I am going to Hawaii for two weeks in early August and was wondering how > to bounce incoming internet e-mail. I am going to use my CompuServe > address as CompuServe has a POP in Hawaii. Can this be done with Pine? > Then again....maybe the subject didn't say it all..... Sounds like what you are looking for is a "forward" ability. You want email that is coming into one account to be "forwarded" to another account. That is not the function of a UA such as pine. In systems that utilize sendmail you'd add a .forward file in your $HOME directory. That file would contain the email address you want your email "forwarded" to. If you wish a copy retained on that system you'd enter a \ followed by your user name. e.g. \daniel dan@someother.place.com Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 09:37:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22633; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:37:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25003; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:15:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24993; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:15:36 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA07128; Sat, 23 Jul 94 00:16:14 +0800 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 00:16:13 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Pico Question - CTRL-SPACE To: "Sherry H. Lake" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, Sherry H. Lake wrote: > I received the following question from one of our users. Can anyone offer > my an advice to give him? I don't think the control sequences can be > changed in pico. When I tried CTRL-SPACE, using vt100 emulation with > telnet program CUTCP, I just get a space (CTRL-@ does nothing). > > > I'm getting a bit irritated at a misfeature of pico. Three quick > > control-spaces wakes up my modem, dropping the connection. Control-space > > is used by pico to navigate. Could it be changed? > Hummm.....I've never seen that happen....and I've used pine and pico over a modem for about 1.5 years now. Have you considered that maybe the problem lies with the modem configuration? In many cases a modem is configured such that three + symbols will return it to command mode. Suggest you check your register settings. I'm at home and don't have my modem book handy....... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 09:58:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23782; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:58:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23030; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:43:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23022; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:43:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRNR4-00000JC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steven King [Really!]) Subject: Re: How do you "Bounce" e-mail Message-Id: <1994Jul22.143627.1648@pshrink.chi.il.us> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 14:36:27 GMT References: <30o1rs$gp1@crl3.crl.com> daniel@crl.com (Daniel M. Gonnella) publicly declared: >I am going to Hawaii for two weeks in early August and was wondering how >to bounce incoming internet e-mail. I am going to use my CompuServe >address as CompuServe has a POP in Hawaii. Can this be done with Pine? You don't want to bounce mail, you want to forward it. (Okay, terminology difference.) Ideally, the transport agent should do this for you without any intervention from Pine or any other user agent. If you're on a Unix system you can create a ".forward" file in your home directory which should redirect all your mail to a specified address. If you're on some other system or are using a restricted shell, ask your sysadmin the best way to go about it on your system. -- ------------------------------------------ "Gee, Brain, whaddaya wanna do tonight?" "The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 10:04:30 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24059; Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:04:30 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27028; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:50:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27018; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:50:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRNTZ-00000HC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 09:29 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sfrazz@tazman.East.Sun.COM (Steve Frazzini - Sales Rep Sun Vienna Va.) Subject: PINE on a Wyse 30 Terminal Date: 22 Jul 1994 15:52:35 GMT Message-Id: <30oq03$3mj@koppel.East.Sun.COM> I would like to use pine on a Wyse 30 Terminal via modem into a SUN server. I am having problems with word wrapping and m's for a cursor. Any suggestions? -steve --- /\ \\ \ Stephen M. Frazzini \ \\ / Federal Sales Representative / \/ / / / / \//\ Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation, Inc. \//\ / / 2650 Park Tower Drive, 4th Floor / / /\ / Vienna, Va. 22180 / \\ \ 703 204-4915 or 24915 (internal) \ \\ 703 204-4782 (FAX) \/ steve.frazzini@east.sun.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 10:19:36 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24591; Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:19:36 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28113; Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:06:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ccsun.tuke.sk by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28057; Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:05:37 -0700 Received: by ccsun.tuke.sk id <64570-4>; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 19:03:56 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 19:03:17 +0200 From: "My account in =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Ko=B9ice?= (Hacker Barry)" Subject: Re: Remapping pine keys To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30luplFek2@uni-erlangen.de> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 21 Jul 1994, Barry Bouwsma wrote: > The problem with using ESC is that it is the prefix character used > for arrow keys on many terminals. Pine can figure out whether you typed > an arrow key or an ESC if it is followed by another character (I believe > Pine also understands a few other ESC sequences from ISO 2022). I got to thinking last night, which seems to happen sometimes when I should be sleeping. I've inadvertently used some Emacs META-whatever commands as ESC-whatever while in Pico, which appear to be bound to not Emacs functions, but the vi *beep* function. So, why shouldn't Pico understand these ESC sequences too. I am aware that one of the original design goals of Pine was a simple, user-friendly MUA, thus the help lines at the bottom, and the decision to use single control-key commands for all functions. Well, from what I understand, Pine3.90 will break that tradition by using a pair of keys to move to the beginning and end of a text. I am not suggesting you abandon the current keymappings, but, I just checked to see what results various ESC-whatever would get me. I was speculating that ESC is reserved to be followed by... another ESC, for use when a control key doesn't work; [ for some arrow keys O for some function keys ABCD for other arrow keys and probably a bunch more for ISO 2022 sequences, like ( and - (I know absolutely nothing about ISO 2022). However, when I type ESC < or > or f or v, as well as others, I get a beep. I must admit, I can't tell if the beep is instantaneous or delayed as Pine waits for another character, since I'm six timezones away from the Pine I'm using, and round-trip times are on the order of 15 seconds to minutes. So, what I'm wondering is if it would be possible, if these keys are not reserved for some other future use, to bind certain characters following ESC to the corresponding Emacs function as an Undocumented Feature and convenience to certain users. Some of the ones I can think of that will be covered by existing Pine commands in 3.90 would be ^@ -> ESC f (I see no need to bind the uppercase letter, particularly when a VT52-like terminal uses those for arrow keys), the ESC < and > functions, and ESC v for ^Y. If the Pine Team is really into it, other presently unimplemented functions could be bound too, like ESC b (back one word) or ESC d (delete forward word) or ESC DEL/BS (delete backward word) or ESC nnn (numeric argument, like ESC 15 ^K to delete 15 lines), to accommodate power users who like the Pico interface but are too attached to powerful Emacs commands. This would make sense if there were plans to include those functions bound to Pico command keys in a future release, but I'm not suggesting you add such code just for an Undocumented Feature that could be eliminated in a later Pine. Of course, I could use Emacs as my alternative editor, but it seems like it would be a simple matter to make Pico more accommodating without compromising its functionality by understanding these currently unbound key sequences, such as ESC v as well as ^Y or ESC ESC Y. Anyway, just a thought, and a sign I need to try other things to get to sleep Barry Bouwsma From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 10:30:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25104; Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:30:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23751; Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:17:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23745; Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:17:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRNyA-00000HC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mrobinsn@finance.wharton.upenn.edu (Michael S. Robinson) Subject: When 3.90? Date: 22 Jul 1994 16:17:01 GMT Message-Id: <30ordt$jr5@netnews.upenn.edu> I know this has been gone over before, but we are desparate for some of the new features in 3.90. In April, 3.90 "would be out soon." Then in June, it was "on the way." Any sort of clue when 3.90 (even the "beta" release will be ready? I'm not saying release an unfinished product. Just would like to know when to really expect 3.90 to be out. My users are clamoring to get some of the features that are already present in elm, but we like the pine interface much better. HELP!. -Mike -- +-----------------------------------------------------------+ Mike Robinson mrobinsn@wharton.upenn.edu At one point in my life I had a clear sense of direction and a great future to look forward to. College changed all that. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 11:25:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28184; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:25:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25867; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:10:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25857; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:10:47 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02931; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:10:40 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24703; Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:20:10 -0700 Received: from gw1.att.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23801; Fri, 22 Jul 94 10:20:07 -0700 From: uucp@br549.attmail.com (Warning: Inconsistent UNIX 'From lines' were ignored) Date: 22 Jul 94 17:18:02 GMT To: pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu Message-Service: mail Received: from br549 by attmail; Fri Jul 22 17:18 GMT 1994 Received: by unix3.UUCP (smail2.5) id AA12129; 22 Jul 94 10:49:52 CDT (Fri) Received: by sun.noname (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA01466; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:53:54 CDT Subject: executables for UNIX SYSTEM VERSION 4.2 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 11:10:36 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Evidently there's something wrong with my C compiler. Could you refer me to a source where I can get executable version of pine for the UNIXWARE UNIX 4.2 operating system? Thanks very much. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 11:28:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28447; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:28:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26109; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:15:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from post2.INRE.ASU.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26101; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:15:15 -0700 Received: from ecstest.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V4.2-13 #2382) id <01HF06T04UXS8Y531J@asu.edu>; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 11:14:14 MST Received: from icsrxp ([129.219.3.10]) by ecstest.asu.edu with SMTP id <113743>; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 11:13:56 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 11:15:36 -0700 From: Shahjehan Khatri Subject: Question re. default-fcc To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT When I reply to a message, Pine includes my signature at the top. How do I prevent this? Just kidding. = ) My question is (slightly) more interesting: My default folder collection is on a remote server. However, I would like the "sent-mail" folder to be stored on the local server. I tried setting, default-fcc=~/Mail/sentmail but this won't work. What's a man to do? Thanks! -- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 11:53:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29541; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:53:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01899; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:43:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from vorlon.Mankato.MSUS.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01893; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:43:01 -0700 Received: (from hayden@localhost) by vorlon.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.9/8.6.9) id NAA00155; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 13:45:06 -0500 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 13:45:06 +0100 From: "Robert A. Hayden" Subject: Re: When 3.90? To: "Michael S. Robinson" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30ordt$jr5@netnews.upenn.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 22 Jul 1994, Michael S. Robinson wrote: > > I know this has been gone over before, but we are desparate for > some of the new features in 3.90. In April, 3.90 "would be out soon." > Then in June, it was "on the way." Any sort of clue when 3.90 (even > the "beta" release will be ready? "Two-Weeks", just like it was two weeks ago :-) ____ Robert A. Hayden <=> hayden@vorlon.mankato.msus.edu \ /__ -=-=-=-=- <=> -=-=-=-=- \/ / Finger for Geek Code Info <=> I do not necessarily speak for the \/ Finger for PGP Public Key <=> City of Mankato or anyone else, dammit -=-=-=-=-=-=-=- (GEEK CODE 2.1) GJ/CM d- H-- s-:++>s-:+ g+ p? au+ a- w++ v* C++(++++) UL++++$ P+>++ L++$ 3- E---- N+++ K+++ W M+ V-- -po+(---)>$ Y++ t+ 5+++ j R+++$ G- tv+ b+ D+ B--- e+>++(*) u** h* f r-->+++ !n y++** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 12:37:17 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01636; Fri, 22 Jul 94 12:37:17 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02893; Fri, 22 Jul 94 12:29:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02887; Fri, 22 Jul 94 12:29:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRPxS-00000HC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 12:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cimage@garnet.msen.com (Cimage) Subject: Can I send attachments uuencoded? Date: 22 Jul 1994 18:23:36 GMT Message-Id: <30p2r8$q2o$2@heifetz.msen.com> Is there a way to get Pine to use uuencoding on attachments so that people w/o access to MIME can still get at the file? Thanks. Simcha From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 12:37:33 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01671; Fri, 22 Jul 94 12:37:33 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02864; Fri, 22 Jul 94 12:27:52 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02857; Fri, 22 Jul 94 12:27:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRPew-00000FC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 11:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cimage@garnet.msen.com (Cimage) Subject: Re: New mail poll freq - how to change Date: 22 Jul 1994 18:16:58 GMT Message-Id: <30p2eq$q2o$1@heifetz.msen.com> References: <30iicu$ama@dgsi.cimage.com> <30jodi$1ci@wolf.CS.Arizona.EDU> Jim Davis (jdavis@CS.Arizona.EDU) wrote: : In article <30iicu$ama@dgsi.cimage.com>, : Simcha Lerner wrote: : :Is there a way to change how often pine polls for new mail? : : : In the pine3.89 source code, it looks like NEW_MAIL_TIME, #define'd to : be 150 seconds in pine/os.h, is the thing to change. I haven't tried : that though. YUCK! Something like this be driven off of the mail environment variable or .pinerc! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 15:00:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07592; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:00:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05860; Fri, 22 Jul 94 14:53:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05854; Fri, 22 Jul 94 14:53:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRSGx-00000HC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 14:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: brucej@on-ramp.ior.com (Bruce T. Jorgens) Subject: Windows Version of Pine? Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 11:30:57 Message-Id: I thought I saw a reference to a Windows version of Pine several months back. Does anyone know if one exists and where I could obtain a copy? ##### ### #### Bruce T. Jorgens brucej@on-ramp.ior.com # # # # # Internet On-Ramp Inc. (509) 927-RAMP # # # #### E. 3724 11th ##### ### # # Spokane, WA 99202 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 15:05:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07836; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:05:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07731; Fri, 22 Jul 94 14:56:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from [198.67.4.10] by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07701; Fri, 22 Jul 94 14:55:58 -0700 Received: by zeus.agfx.com (5.4R3.00/140.2) id AA02917; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 14:51:26 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 14:46:48 -0700 (pdt) From: Jeff Ferguson Subject: Re: Pine on a Data General To: "Susan J. Starr" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 7 Jul 1994, Susan J. Starr wrote: > Has anyone successfully compiled Pine on a Data General? I have compiled PINE, IMAPD and PICO successfully and am using them under DG/UX 5.4.2.R01 and DG/UX 5.4.3 (Motorola 88K AViiONs). The executables are available via anonymous FTP to "zeus.agfx.com". Take a look in the "pub/pine" subdirectory. Please note that PINE and its utilities are under copyright by the University of Washington, and that the University of Washington does not support the DG/UX binaries. Good luck! \\\// ================================================================== o o Jeff Ferguson CompuServe....: 70324,1622 > Sr. Programmer/Analyst Internet......: jef@zeus.agfx.com \_/ Auto-Graphics Inc., 3201 Temple Ave., Pomona California 91768-3200 ================================================================== Windows: From the people who brought you EDLIN. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 15:39:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09115; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:39:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09925; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:33:17 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09917; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:33:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRSs4-00000FC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sjs@netcom.com (Stephen Schow) Subject: setting default export dir Message-Id: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 20:45:23 GMT How can I set the default Export dir so that when I export a message to a file, it does NOT go into the home dir? Thanks in advance -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 15:40:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09228; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:40:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06649; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:33:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06643; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:33:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRSua-00000HC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:17 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simcha@cimage.com (Simcha Lerner) Subject: how to go to top of buffer in compose Date: 22 Jul 1994 20:49:46 GMT Message-Id: <30pbda$sdk@dgsi.cimage.com> Is there a way to get to the top and bottom of the message buffer while composing a message. In emacs, Esc-< and Esc-> do this. Thanks. -- Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner simcha@cimage.com All opinions are my own, but they are available for rent cheap... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 15:54:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09968; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:54:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10851; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:48:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10845; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:48:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRT6g-00000IC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 15:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: simcha@cimage.com (Simcha Lerner) Subject: How to exit (not quit) Pine Date: 22 Jul 1994 20:56:59 GMT Message-Id: <30pbqr$sdk@dgsi.cimage.com> All of the other mailers that I use have the option to exit (X) instead of quitting (Q). The difference is that quitting saves changes to the message file (clears New flag to Unread, deletes marked messages, etc.), while exit abandons all changes and leaves without even resetting the new message flags to unread. Is these a way to do this in Pine? It seems to always clear flags, even if I quit with a ^C. Thanks. -- Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner simcha@cimage.com All opinions are my own, but they are available for rent cheap... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 16:48:00 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12106; Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:48:00 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07901; Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:38:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07895; Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:38:46 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRTut-00000JC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 16:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: n7044623@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu (Gary Burlingame) Subject: Re: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Message-Id: References: <30f3gb$gk9@nic-nac.CSU.net> Date: 22 Jul 94 22:03:01 GMT hbbio011@huey.csun.edu (arno sarkissian) writes: >I found a program to do so, it's called PC-Pine. To download ftp to: >I tried it however it asks for Packet Driver, which yet I don't have. I downloaded a pc-pine, too, and get the message: PC/TCP resident module is not loaded; aborting program... All I want to do is read in the mail file I downloaded. Isn't there a way to do that? That's the kind of offline mail reading I would like to be able to do. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 17:24:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13444; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:24:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08787; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:19:09 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> Received: from saphir.ulaval.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08781; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:19:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 20:18:45 -0400 (EDT) From: 2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA Message-Id: <940722201845.2581acce@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" signoff listserv undiscribe listserv From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 17:31:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13625; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:31:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16601; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:23:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16593; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:23:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRUZF-00000FC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mlindsey@nyx10.cs.du.edu (Mark R. Lindsey) Subject: Re: PINE on a Wyse 30 Terminal Date: 22 Jul 1994 15:06:59 -0600 Message-Id: <30pcdj$qka@nyx10.cs.du.edu> References: <30oq03$3mj@koppel.East.Sun.COM> sfrazz@tazman.East.Sun.COM (Steve Frazzini - Sales Rep Sun Vienna Va.) writes: >I would like to use pine on a Wyse 30 Terminal via modem into a SUN server. >I am having problems with word wrapping and m's for a cursor. Any suggestions? Find a good wyse30 termcap/terminfo pair (sorry, but Sun's ain't that hot) and use screen to come as close as possible to emulating vt100. Or make 'em give you a sparcstation. ;) -- Mark R. Lindsey [][] The South Georgia Digital Research Institute mlindsey@nyx10.cs.du.edu [][] http://nox.cs.du.edu:8001/~mlindsey From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 18:01:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14350; Fri, 22 Jul 94 18:01:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09315; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:53:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09309; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:53:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRV5G-00000IC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: How to exit (not quit) Pine Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:47:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30pbqr$sdk@dgsi.cimage.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30pbqr$sdk@dgsi.cimage.com> The problem is that Pine does not remember the previous state of the folder, so such an option is not really feasible... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 22 Jul 1994, Simcha Lerner wrote: > All of the other mailers that I use have the option to exit (X) > instead of quitting (Q). The difference is that quitting saves > changes to the message file (clears New flag to Unread, deletes marked > messages, etc.), while exit abandons all changes and leaves without even > resetting the new message flags to unread. > > Is these a way to do this in Pine? It seems to always clear flags, > even if I quit with a ^C. > > Thanks. > > -- > Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner > simcha@cimage.com > All opinions are my own, but they are available for rent cheap... > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 18:01:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14373; Fri, 22 Jul 94 18:01:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18453; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:53:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18443; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:53:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRV58-00000HC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: setting default export dir Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:43:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: You can't, until Pine 3.90 comes out... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, Stephen Schow wrote: > How can I set the default Export dir so that when I export a message to a > file, it does NOT go into the home dir? > > Thanks in advance > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 18:02:40 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14410; Fri, 22 Jul 94 18:02:40 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09299; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:53:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09293; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:53:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRV50-00000FC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 17:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Windows Version of Pine? Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: WinPine has not been released yet. It will probably be part of the Pine 3.90 release... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, Bruce T. Jorgens wrote: > I thought I saw a reference to a Windows version of Pine several months back. > Does anyone know if one exists and where I could obtain a copy? > > > ##### ### #### Bruce T. Jorgens brucej@on-ramp.ior.com > # # # # # Internet On-Ramp Inc. (509) 927-RAMP > # # # #### E. 3724 11th > ##### ### # # Spokane, WA 99202 > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 18:06:43 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14484; Fri, 22 Jul 94 18:06:43 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09398; Fri, 22 Jul 94 18:00:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09392; Fri, 22 Jul 94 18:00:32 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qRVRx-0002AdC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 18:00 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA27000; Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:14:48 -0700 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 16:14:40 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Pine for DG/UX To: Pine Mailing List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A while ago, I mentione dthat I had compiled 3.89 on DG/UX, and people asked me what I did etc, I have never heard back to hear if my advice was correct or not...Those of you who did: were my instructions correct/adequate? B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 18:12:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14619; Fri, 22 Jul 94 18:12:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09500; Fri, 22 Jul 94 18:05:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09494; Fri, 22 Jul 94 18:05:01 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA12311; Sat, 23 Jul 94 09:05:42 +0800 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 09:05:41 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: Can I send attachments uuencoded? To: Cimage Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30p2r8$q2o$2@heifetz.msen.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 22 Jul 1994, Cimage wrote: > Is there a way to get Pine to use uuencoding on attachments so that > people w/o access to MIME can still get at the file? > Sure...I do when necessary. 1. While in compose mode use ^Z to suspend pine. 2. uuencode the the file you wish to send. 3. Type fg to return to pine. 4. Use ^R to read-in the uuencoded file. done...... Ed Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 19:31:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15809; Fri, 22 Jul 94 19:31:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23627; Fri, 22 Jul 94 19:23:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23621; Fri, 22 Jul 94 19:23:44 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRWVM-00000HC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 19:08 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deamar@eskimo.com (Dean Martineau) Subject: Re: Various suggestions for PINE Message-Id: References: <30gpf8$pfp@eve.adam.com.au> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 01:22:32 GMT It would be very handy to be able to build mailing lists from nicknames in the address book. When I tried this it didn't work, and I had to recopy the addresses for the mailing list even though they were already elsewhere in the address book. dean martineau From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 22 21:36:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17813; Fri, 22 Jul 94 21:36:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11849; Fri, 22 Jul 94 21:30:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11843; Fri, 22 Jul 94 21:30:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRYQk-00000IC; Fri, 22 Jul 94 21:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmc@crl.com (Jeff Phillips) Subject: Compiled Pine for SCO Date: 22 Jul 1994 21:03:40 -0700 Message-Id: <30q4qs$82t@crl2.crl.com> We have a small SCO ODT machine that we would like to install PINE on. We do not have the development kit(compiler). Is a special port needed for SCO and/or are there compiled sources available for SCO. TNX From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 02:01:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22933; Sat, 23 Jul 94 02:01:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15051; Sat, 23 Jul 94 01:55:13 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from mail.cs.tu-berlin.de by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15045; Sat, 23 Jul 94 01:54:48 -0700 Received: from bee.cs.tu-berlin.de (czyborra@bee.cs.tu-berlin.de [130.149.92.11]) by mail.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.9/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA04430; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 10:53:25 +0200 Received: (czyborra@localhost) by bee.cs.tu-berlin.de (8.6.9/8.6.6) id KAA11354; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 10:53:24 +0200 References: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Roman Czyborra To: John Cullen Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Marlboro Fong In-Reply-To: by jjsc@esb.ucp.pt dated 1994-7-15 11:32:16 X-Status: Also-Posted-To: comp.mail.pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: How to attach a binary file???? Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 10:53:16 +0200 Message-Id: > > : Can anyone tell me how to attach a binary file and how big the > > : size can be? my file may be 10 Mb. > > You may want to compress it before attaching it > Be aware too, that even if your account can hold a file of that > size, and your friend's account can also, the same may not be true > of the intermediary mail systems between your two sites > You may want to check out a program to split the file into pieces, eg. > the GNU split program will work on both byte and line counts. It is a lot more convenient to use mailto or mpack which produce MIME's message/partial format so that the parts can be sorted and reassembled automatically. Pine3.89 can't do that yet but the new Pine will hopefully handle them via mailcap. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 02:24:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23355; Sat, 23 Jul 94 02:24:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15314; Sat, 23 Jul 94 02:19:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15308; Sat, 23 Jul 94 02:19:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRcx7-00000IC; Sat, 23 Jul 94 02:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roman Czyborra Subject: Re: Sending files Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 10:53:22 +0200 Message-Id: References: <2vvknv$9u1@netaxs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > How do I send a file using PINE? What directory do I have to put the > file in for PINE to find it? Pine always runs in your home directory. If the file is elsewhere you can enter the filename in the Attchmnt: field with its path. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 05:39:03 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27764; Sat, 23 Jul 94 05:39:03 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03761; Sat, 23 Jul 94 05:31:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03755; Sat, 23 Jul 94 05:31:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRfuO-00000kC; Sat, 23 Jul 94 05:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ua339@fim.uni-erlangen.de (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Can I send attachments uuencoded? Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 11:52:59 GMT Message-Id: <30r0arF6aq@uni-erlangen.de> References: <30p2r8$q2o$2@heifetz.msen.com> In a previous article, egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (Ed Greshko) says: >On 22 Jul 1994, Cimage wrote: > >> Is there a way to get Pine to use uuencoding on attachments so that >> people w/o access to MIME can still get at the file? [ ... ] >4. Use ^R to read-in the uuencoded file. You may wish to point your recipient to a means of decoding MIME attachments, since that will become increasingly common; whether through mpack/munpack, or by adding metamail to the user's present mailer, or making use of a mailer with MIME built-in such as Pine or many others. For information on such programs and where to find them, check out the FAQ posted to comp.mail.mime . I'd give the pointer to mpack at CMU but this isn't a convenient environment from which I could find it, sorry... Barry Bouwsma; whoops, looks like is no longer a good address for my mail; try or From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 07:35:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29215; Sat, 23 Jul 94 07:35:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18889; Sat, 23 Jul 94 07:29:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from borcore.usbr.gov by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18883; Sat, 23 Jul 94 07:29:04 -0700 Received: from phxdg1.apo.lc.usbr.gov by borcore.usbr.gov (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29196; Sat, 23 Jul 94 08:28:56 MDT Received: by phxdg1.apo.lc.usbr.gov (5.4R2.01/140.2) id AA02096; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 07:30:38 -0800 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 07:30:38 -0800 From: sstarr@phxdg1.apo.lc.usbr.gov (Susan J. Starr) Message-Id: <9407231530.AA02096@phxdg1.apo.lc.usbr.gov> To: Jeff Ferguson Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine on a Data General Thanks for the offer but I finally got it going. Now if I could only read the man pages! Have you found a good way to format man pages so you can read them on a DG. I was going to get groff, but I needed a c++ compiler for that. So I was going to get a version of gcc that has a c++ compiler but found I needed gmake. At this point I figured I don't have enough time to do this, considering how long it takes to figure out how to customize these packages to run on a DG. Sometimes the DG can be very frustrating because it's a lot like system V except where it's not. Thanks, Sue From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 09:03:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00589; Sat, 23 Jul 94 09:03:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05825; Sat, 23 Jul 94 08:57:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05819; Sat, 23 Jul 94 08:57:13 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15936; Sat, 23 Jul 94 08:57:12 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 08:57:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Windows Version of Pine? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just to set expectations correctly (i.e. suitably *low* :)... We hope to release with 3.90 an early version of "PC-Pine for Winsock". o It is *NOT* a full Windows GUI application. o It has the same character-oriented UI as the Unix and DOS versions, although, like the DOS version, you can use the mouse to select or activate some things. o It does have a hint of Windows-ness, e.g. a resizable window, settable font, and some *very* limited clipboard support. o It does get out from under the 640K memory limit, so you can actually invoke an image viewer from within PC-Pine for Winsock. To try to emphasize the difference, I've been referring to this as "PC-Pine for Winsock" and reserving the name "WinPine" for a hypothetical, maybe-it-will-happen-someday full GUI version. Undoubtedly we will look at adding some of the desired features incrementally in future releases, so the difference may become very blurred, nevertheless: It's important that expectations be set correctly. We've already had negative feedback from a couple of people who expect(ed) a full GUI version with a nice big SEND button, scrollable text regions, full Windows cut/paste, etc. As a matter of fact, the head of our Client Services department is not sure we should even release "PCP4W" since he feels so many people will be disappointed. (We intend to make it available anyway, but if you have an opinion on this issue, one way or the other, please let me know... mail just to me, though; let's not burden the list.) -teg On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, David L Miller wrote: > WinPine has not been released yet. It will probably be part of the Pine > 3.90 release... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, Bruce T. Jorgens wrote: > > > I thought I saw a reference to a Windows version of Pine several months back. > > Does anyone know if one exists and where I could obtain a copy? > > > > > > ##### ### #### Bruce T. Jorgens brucej@on-ramp.ior.com > > # # # # # Internet On-Ramp Inc. (509) 927-RAMP > > # # # #### E. 3724 11th > > ##### ### # # Spokane, WA 99202 > > > > > > > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 09:09:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00700; Sat, 23 Jul 94 09:09:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19863; Sat, 23 Jul 94 09:01:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19857; Sat, 23 Jul 94 09:01:37 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16061; Sat, 23 Jul 94 09:01:36 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 09:01:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: David L Miller Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: setting default export dir In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII More precisely: 3.90 has an option that tells Pine to use the current working directory instead of home directory. As yet there is no option to explicitly set the Export directory. -teg On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > You can't, until Pine 3.90 comes out... > > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > > On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, Stephen Schow wrote: > > > How can I set the default Export dir so that when I export a message to a > > file, it does NOT go into the home dir? > > > > Thanks in advance > > -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Steve Schow | But you don't need to use the claw, if you > > sjs@netcom.com | pick the pear with the big paw paw...... > > (415) 354-4908 | Have I given you a clue......? > > 800-722-2007x4908 | - Baloo the Bear > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 09:37:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01237; Sat, 23 Jul 94 09:37:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20202; Sat, 23 Jul 94 09:30:50 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20196; Sat, 23 Jul 94 09:30:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRjfF-00000BC; Sat, 23 Jul 94 09:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevesch@gate.net (Steve Schneider / FogBottomPond) Subject: File Encoding Date: 23 Jul 1994 16:06:36 GMT Message-Id: <30rf6c$ig8@tequesta.gate.net> Hello... I've had a lot of complaints from people whom I send mail to via Pine (which I think is great but which the complainers don't have or don't use) when I ^R a *straight-text* file into a letter they can't read it. Is there a fix for this other than waiting for 3.90? We're on 3.87 here and I've banged my head against a brick wall trying to get them to update to 3.89 even... Is it possible to run the complete Pine program from within an individuals home directory? If so, how difficult is it to do? Thanks, Steve... From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 10:37:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02126; Sat, 23 Jul 94 10:37:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06954; Sat, 23 Jul 94 10:31:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06947; Sat, 23 Jul 94 10:31:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRkak-00000BC; Sat, 23 Jul 94 10:10 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ua339@fim.uni-erlangen.de (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: File Encoding Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 16:52:18 GMT Message-Id: <30rhs2F7k8@uni-erlangen.de> References: <30rf6c$ig8@tequesta.gate.net> In a previous article, stevesch@gate.net (Steve Schneider / FogBottomPond) says: >Hello... I've had a lot of complaints from people whom I send mail to via >Pine ... when I ^R a *straight-text* file into a letter they can't read it. I don't think this is right -- I think you mean, when you ^J attach a file it becomes unreadable. Any ASCII-only file when read with ^R should remain readable, however, if non-ASCII (8th-bit-set) characters appear in the file, such as for non-English text, they will be converted to quoted-printable encoding, which is not itself directly readable. >Is it possible to run the complete Pine program from >within an individuals home directory? If so, how difficult is it to do? Sure, it works with no problem. If you have space to compile it, and either alias the pine command to ~/pinewhatever/bin/pine, or put that directory in your path before the system-wide pine, otherwise you'd wind up running the system-wide version... Usually Pine itself will build with no problems at all. Read the instructions that come with it, and good luck. Barry Bouwsma From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 11:32:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03099; Sat, 23 Jul 94 11:32:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21658; Sat, 23 Jul 94 11:24:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21652; Sat, 23 Jul 94 11:24:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRlRy-00000BC; Sat, 23 Jul 94 11:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kevin J. Sinclair" Subject: How do you Post in Pine? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 09:37:32 GMT I would like to Post to Usenet Newsgroups from Pine. Whenever I do that, however, using the usual ways, I always get my site appended to the name; e.g. if I try to post to alt.foobar, the to: field becomes alt.foobar@rahul.net. eh? -- Kevin { Kevin J. Sinclair: kjs@rahul.net } From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 12:08:12 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03640; Sat, 23 Jul 94 12:08:12 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07953; Sat, 23 Jul 94 12:01:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07947; Sat, 23 Jul 94 12:01:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRm2v-00000BC; Sat, 23 Jul 94 11:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dunigan@pinyon.libre.com (Mike Dunigan of Sonic Air) Subject: UUCP with Pine Date: 22 Jul 1994 18:22:04 -0700 Message-Id: <30prbs$osh@pinyon.libre.com> Anyone out there have any luck using pine with a UUCP connection. Basically what we are trying to do is use pine to send mail to the internet through attmail. Our connection to attmail is via UUCP. Since pine does not support the ! addressing I was hoping someone could offer suggestions on how we should be configuring sendmail, etc. Thanks for any response. -- Mike Dunigan From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 14:09:29 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05518; Sat, 23 Jul 94 14:09:29 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23389; Sat, 23 Jul 94 14:00:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23383; Sat, 23 Jul 94 14:00:27 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qRoBG-00013vC; Sat, 23 Jul 94 14:00 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA11571; Sat, 23 Jul 1994 13:49:08 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 13:49:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: UUCP with Pine To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: <30prbs$osh@pinyon.libre.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 22 Jul 1994, Mike Dunigan of Sonic Air wrote: > Anyone out there have any luck using pine with a UUCP connection. That is how you get the message that you are reading now. > Basically what we are trying to do is use pine to send mail to the > internet through attmail. Our connection to attmail is via UUCP. Since > pine does not support the ! addressing I was hoping someone could offer > suggestions on how we should be configuring sendmail, etc. Get the OReilly book on sendmail, it shuouldn't be too difficult, if your sendmail already sends mail to the UUCP addresses without problems, then PINE will work equially well. (If that makes sense) B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 16:39:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07715; Sat, 23 Jul 94 16:39:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25144; Sat, 23 Jul 94 16:32:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> Received: from saphir.ulaval.ca by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25136; Sat, 23 Jul 94 16:32:48 -0700 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 19:31:42 -0400 (EDT) From: 2020016@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA Message-Id: <940723193142.25818038@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"pine-info@cac.washington.edu" undiscribe list signoff From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 16:52:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07961; Sat, 23 Jul 94 16:52:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25302; Sat, 23 Jul 94 16:46:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25296; Sat, 23 Jul 94 16:46:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRqTJ-00000IC; Sat, 23 Jul 94 16:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: massie@nosc.mil (Randy Massie) Subject: Where can I get PC-Pine? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 1994 22:09:23 GMT Just wondering where to D/L or ftp Pine for PC?? Thanks Randy Massie massie@nosc.mil From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 23 19:38:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10439; Sat, 23 Jul 94 19:38:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12871; Sat, 23 Jul 94 19:31:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12865; Sat, 23 Jul 94 19:31:30 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qRt2H-00000HC; Sat, 23 Jul 94 19:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (D. A. Scocca) Subject: Labeling answered messages... Date: 24 Jul 1994 02:05:23 GMT Message-Id: <30si93$k2e@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> In an earlier posting I mentioned that read messages moved to folders showed up marked as unread... I have also noticed that answered messages lose the "A" flag when filed in a folder. Is this also something that will be taken care of in 3.90? Thanks.... Dave -- * The Minstrel in the Gallery "Heteroskedastic" * * D. A. Scocca scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu * * "My love does not, cannot _make_ her happy. My love can only * * release in her the capacity to be happy." --J. Barnes * From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 00:41:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15037; Sun, 24 Jul 94 00:41:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16114; Sun, 24 Jul 94 00:31:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@SIVM.SI.EDU:stoneji@scan.si.edu> Received: from SIVM.SI.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16107; Sun, 24 Jul 94 00:31:25 -0700 Received: from scan.si.edu by SIVM.SI.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 24 Jul 94 03:30:25 EDT Received: by scan.si.edu (5.61/1.35) id AA08723; Sun, 24 Jul 94 03:28:52 -0400 Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 03:28:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Stone Reply-To: Jim Stone Subject: Attachments in "sent-mail" folder To: Pine-Info List Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Is there a way to suppress saving attachments in the sent-mail folder? For space reasons I would like to keep the text of mail that has been sent with attachments, including, if possible, a reference to the attached file(s), but without the attachment(s). On a similar note, I would also like to be able to save the text of incoming mail to a folder without the attachments, but have been unable to figure out a simple way to do this. jim -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- "as long as the music's loud enough, ::::: Jim Stone we won't hear the world falling apart." ::::: Smithsonian Institution -derek jarman, "jubilee" ::::: stoneji@scan.si.edu -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 08:00:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23064; Sun, 24 Jul 94 08:00:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05631; Sun, 24 Jul 94 07:50:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05625; Sun, 24 Jul 94 07:50:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qS4b0-00000FC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 07:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hvf1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Harriet V. Foley) Subject: MIME & 3.88 or later Date: 24 Jul 1994 09:32:03 -0500 Message-Id: Since MIME runs on our PINE program, which is Pine 3.88 , would it be correct to assume that anyone who is running Pine 3.88 or later has MIME running on their machine? Thanks for your answer. -- Harriet Foley Mississippi State Univ. Senior Computer Consultant Phone - (601) 325-2942 Internet - hvf1@Ra.MsState.Edu Fax - (601) 325-8921 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 08:59:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24015; Sun, 24 Jul 94 08:59:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21776; Sun, 24 Jul 94 08:51:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21770; Sun, 24 Jul 94 08:51:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qS5Yz-00000FC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 08:34 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Pico Question - CTRL-SPACE Date: 24 Jul 1994 15:34:56 GMT Message-Id: <30u1n0$fao@news.ysu.edu> References: In a previous article, slake@mason1.gmu.edu ("Sherry H. Lake") says: >I received the following question from one of our users. Can anyone offer >my an advice to give him? I don't think the control sequences can be >changed in pico. When I tried CTRL-SPACE, using vt100 emulation with >telnet program CUTCP, I just get a space (CTRL-@ does nothing). Strictly speaking, there is no such thing as CONTROL-SPACE. However, in practice, it appears that a number of keyboards generate the NUL character (which is CTRL-@ ) with it. It's quite possible that a number of terminal emulators or telnet programs won't send a NUL. (In part, that's why I wondered about binding the Emacs ESC sequence to this function.) Many of the non-alphabetic control keys just don't generate the correct character... >> I'm getting a bit irritated at a misfeature of pico. Three quick >> control-spaces wakes up my modem, dropping the connection. Control-space >> is used by pico to navigate. Could it be changed? There is an S register, normally set to 043 (the + character) which determines the escape character your modem responds to (sorry, my 300 baud acoustic coupler did not come with instruction manual). To disable this, one should set it to a value of 128 or above. It appears that it has been set to 0, which happens to be the numeric position of the NUL character, instead of disabling the escape sequence. Come to think of it, I've wondered why an 8th-bit-set character would not then put the modem into command mode... The pleasures of living in an ASCII-only world, I tell you... -- Barry Bouwsma, in Ann Arbor Michigan, soon to be back biking eastern Europe Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) Unemployable System Cracker seeking work; food; chocolate; Czech pastries, ice cream, and beer; travel partner; free airline tickets; and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 10:27:32 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25382; Sun, 24 Jul 94 10:27:32 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22717; Sun, 24 Jul 94 10:18:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22711; Sun, 24 Jul 94 10:18:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qS6uj-00000FC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 10:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ua339@fim.uni-erlangen.de (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Attachments in "sent-mail" folder Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 16:44:19 GMT Message-Id: <30u5p3Fd3h@uni-erlangen.de> References: In a previous article, stoneji@scan.si.edu (Jim Stone) says: >Is there a way to suppress saving attachments in the sent-mail folder? >For space reasons I would like to keep the text of mail that has been sent >with attachments, including, if possible, a reference to the attached >file(s), but without the attachment(s). > >On a similar note, I would also like to be able to save the text of >incoming mail to a folder without the attachments, but have been unable >to figure out a simple way to do this. I've wondered the same thing, whether it might be possible at some time to be able to manipulate mail saved into folders to delete the attachments themselves after it's been saved to that folder. A hack workaround I can think of would be to reply or forward that mail to yourself, and during composition, delete the reference to the attachment in the header, and then manually adding a reference thereto into the text of the outgoing message. You can also xport the message, which has the effect of stripping the header to its bare essentials, losing the separator line which makes it unusable by Pine as a mail folder, and will insert comments about the attachments, as well as the character set tagging, automatically. This Exported file will by default appear in your home directory, and is not a folder that Pine expects to find, nor can Pine understand it. Barry Bouwsma From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 13:48:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27987; Sun, 24 Jul 94 13:48:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09393; Sun, 24 Jul 94 13:42:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09387; Sun, 24 Jul 94 13:42:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSA3M-00000FC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 13:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jazz@connected.com (Reid Cameron Conti) Subject: Batch Date: 24 Jul 1994 13:14:56 -0700 Message-Id: <30ui40$2rk@gibeah.connected.com> Help! Is it possible to do batch commands in Pine? Like, tag a bunch of messages, and then copy them all to another folder? Is that feature coming up in a future version? A -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Email: jazz@connected.com Finger: jazz@gibeah.connected.com PowerPC: You dished out the cash... Now what? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 17:44:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01361; Sun, 24 Jul 94 17:44:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27497; Sun, 24 Jul 94 17:38:11 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27491; Sun, 24 Jul 94 17:38:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSDie-00000LC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 17:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: meyer@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Hans Meyer) Subject: "Y" command in Pine does not print Message-Id: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 20:22:53 GMT To newsgroup: The "Y" command in my pine does not print on my printer. WHY? Or, how can I print my letters from the folder index, to my printer? Or even opening up the highlighted letter, then printing? Hans Meyer:-) hmeyer@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 22:45:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06025; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:45:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15153; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:38:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15147; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:38:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSITa-00000IC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: line length in pine Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 22:13:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30o33e$q5h@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30o33e$q5h@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> Not at this time... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 22 Jul 1994, Blake Fithen wrote: > Is there any way to set the default line length in pine? > > Thanks for your time. > > reply here or mail me - flakebit@ksu.ksu.edu > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 22:48:47 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06078; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:48:47 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15161; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:38:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15155; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:38:25 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSITb-00000LC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Left-Arrow mapping Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 22:14:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30ojjv$lpf@news.cerf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30ojjv$lpf@news.cerf.net> We are planning to use the left and right arrows for navigation at some point, but have not done any work on it yet... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 22 Jul 1994, Dan Malcor-LA Times wrote: > I use lynx as a menu system (as well as a web browser). So of course > one of teh items is E-Mail via Pine. The problem comes in that after > training the user to hit "Left-Arrow" to back out of everything in > lynx, it does nothing in Pine (except complain). Is there a fix for > this? > -- > ====================================================================== > Dan Malcor | Los Angeles Times - Editorial Systems > Internet: malcor@class.org | Systems Analyst / Programmer > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 22:58:36 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06230; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:58:36 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01148; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:49:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01142; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:49:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSIcN-00000FC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: File Encoding Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 22:17:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30rf6c$ig8@tequesta.gate.net> <30rhs2F7k8@uni-erlangen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30rhs2F7k8@uni-erlangen.de> Actually, Pine 3.87 would trigger encoding if you ^R a file with DOS newlines..... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 23 Jul 1994, Barry Bouwsma wrote: > > In a previous article, stevesch@gate.net (Steve Schneider / FogBottomPond) says: > > >Hello... I've had a lot of complaints from people whom I send mail to via > >Pine ... when I ^R a *straight-text* file into a letter they can't read it. > > I don't think this is right -- I think you mean, when you ^J attach > a file it becomes unreadable. Any ASCII-only file when read with ^R > should remain readable, however, if non-ASCII (8th-bit-set) characters > appear in the file, such as for non-English text, they will be converted > to quoted-printable encoding, which is not itself directly readable. > > > >Is it possible to run the complete Pine program from > >within an individuals home directory? If so, how difficult is it to do? > > Sure, it works with no problem. If you have space to compile it, > and either alias the pine command to ~/pinewhatever/bin/pine, or put > that directory in your path before the system-wide pine, otherwise > you'd wind up running the system-wide version... Usually Pine itself > will build with no problems at all. Read the instructions that come > with it, and good luck. > > > Barry Bouwsma > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 22:59:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06261; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:59:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01164; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:50:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01158; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:50:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSIcO-00000MC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Where can I get PC-Pine? Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 22:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/pcpine/ |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 23 Jul 1994, Randy Massie wrote: > Just wondering where to D/L or ftp Pine for PC?? > > Thanks > Randy Massie > massie@nosc.mil > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 23:03:13 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06349; Sun, 24 Jul 94 23:03:13 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01172; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:50:41 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01166; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:50:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSIcR-00000NC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Labeling answered messages... Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 22:19:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30si93$k2e@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30si93$k2e@bigblue.oit.unc.edu> Yup! |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 24 Jul 1994, D. A. Scocca wrote: > In an earlier posting I mentioned that read messages moved to folders > showed up marked as unread... > > I have also noticed that answered messages lose the "A" flag when > filed in a folder. > > Is this also something that will be taken care of in 3.90? > > Thanks.... > > Dave > -- > * The Minstrel in the Gallery "Heteroskedastic" * > * D. A. Scocca scocca@gibbs.oit.unc.edu * > * "My love does not, cannot _make_ her happy. My love can only * > * release in her the capacity to be happy." --J. Barnes * > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 23:03:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06372; Sun, 24 Jul 94 23:03:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01188; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:50:51 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01182; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:50:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSIcU-00000PC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: MIME & 3.88 or later Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 22:24:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Pine 3.0(?) and later supports MIME. There is no separate "MIME" program though... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 24 Jul 1994, Harriet V. Foley wrote: > > > Since MIME runs on our PINE program, which is > Pine 3.88 , would it be correct to assume that anyone > who is running Pine 3.88 or later has MIME running > on their machine? > Thanks for your answer. > -- > Harriet Foley Mississippi State Univ. > Senior Computer Consultant Phone - (601) 325-2942 > Internet - hvf1@Ra.MsState.Edu Fax - (601) 325-8921 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 23:03:35 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06382; Sun, 24 Jul 94 23:03:35 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01180; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:50:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01174; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:50:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSIcT-00000OC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:30 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Attachments in "sent-mail" folder Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 22:21:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: It's on the to-do list...... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 24 Jul 1994, Jim Stone wrote: > Is there a way to suppress saving attachments in the sent-mail folder? > For space reasons I would like to keep the text of mail that has been sent > with attachments, including, if possible, a reference to the attached > file(s), but without the attachment(s). > > On a similar note, I would also like to be able to save the text of > incoming mail to a folder without the attachments, but have been unable > to figure out a simple way to do this. > > jim > -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- > "as long as the music's loud enough, ::::: Jim Stone > we won't hear the world falling apart." ::::: Smithsonian Institution > -derek jarman, "jubilee" ::::: stoneji@scan.si.edu > -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- > > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 24 23:12:15 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06540; Sun, 24 Jul 94 23:12:15 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01279; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:57:10 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01273; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:57:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSImV-00000IC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 22:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Batch Date: Sun, 24 Jul 1994 22:26:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30ui40$2rk@gibeah.connected.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30ui40$2rk@gibeah.connected.com> Coming in Pine 3.90... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 24 Jul 1994, Reid Cameron Conti wrote: > Help! Is it possible to do batch commands in Pine? Like, tag a bunch of messages, and then copy them all to another folder? Is that feature coming up in a > future version? > > > A > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Email: jazz@connected.com Finger: jazz@gibeah.connected.com > PowerPC: You dished out the cash... Now what? > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 00:20:55 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07694; Mon, 25 Jul 94 00:20:55 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02266; Mon, 25 Jul 94 00:12:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02260; Mon, 25 Jul 94 00:12:16 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSJwO-00000FC; Sun, 24 Jul 94 23:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: elke@willow.usask.ca (Nathan Elke) Subject: Re: "Y" command in Pine does not print Date: 25 Jul 1994 06:50:47 GMT Message-Id: <30vnc7$rpg@tribune.usask.ca> I'm not sure if Hans' problem is exactly like mine, but when I try to print using the 'Y' command, it prints for awhile on my printer, then stops and locks up my session. I hit ctrl-z to get out of it, and my printer becomes my monitor (all commands and their output goes to the printer), while my monitor stays the same. I then quit my modem program (Telix in this case), start it up again, and all is fine. Any suggestions as to how to get this to work? -- /-------------------------------------------------------------------------\ | "Disturbing facts about nazi-splinter groups seen on the news; they're | | picketing synagogues and claiming that Hitler was King of the Jews" | | Godley and Creme, 'An Englishman in New York' | | | | | | elke@willow.usask.ca: Nathan Elke, Saskatoon, Saskatchewan Canada | \-------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 02:29:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10235; Mon, 25 Jul 94 02:29:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17462; Mon, 25 Jul 94 02:07:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17456; Mon, 25 Jul 94 02:07:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSLjh-00000HC; Mon, 25 Jul 94 01:50 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: itswa@perth.DIALix.oz.au (ITS) Subject: Pine FAQ and PC-NFS support Date: 25 Jul 1994 16:37:19 +0800 Message-Id: <30vtjv$5vm$1@perth.dialix.oz.au> Hi, I have a couple of queries which some kind soul (or souls) may be able to help me with... Is there a Pine FAQ? My local news site doesn't appear to have a copy. (Sorry if this *is* a FAQ!) I have just downloaded the pine 3.89 distribution and I see that support for PC-Pine over PC-NFS is expected 'real soon now'. Is there any indication how soon that might be? I would appreciate any replies by email if possible. Thanks in advance, David Gray davidg@itswa.dialix.oz.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 04:21:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12833; Mon, 25 Jul 94 04:21:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18943; Mon, 25 Jul 94 04:06:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18937; Mon, 25 Jul 94 04:06:20 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSNXM-00000MC; Mon, 25 Jul 94 03:45 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: igbf@osf01.cc.rl.ac.uk (Mr I G B Fabian) Subject: Viewing MIME attachments Date: 25 Jul 1994 10:20:17 GMT Message-Id: <3103l1$26n7@unixfe.rl.ac.uk> Could someone tell me how to configure pine to use certain browsers for particular attachment types. I have managed to view gif files but can not work out how to view/process application/postscript attachments. I know I can save them then view them, but I would like access to the PostScript viewer from within pine. If you tell me to read a FAQ then please tell me where and how to get hold of it. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help. Ivan Fabian From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 07:33:58 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16244; Mon, 25 Jul 94 07:33:58 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21204; Mon, 25 Jul 94 07:19:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21198; Mon, 25 Jul 94 07:19:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSQav-00000HC; Mon, 25 Jul 94 07:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pkramer@mid.net (Jerry Anderson) Subject: Acessing mailboxes via IMAP but with a pattern Date: 25 Jul 1994 13:35:19 GMT Message-Id: <310f2n$qll@noc1.mid.net> Hello, My question concerns the access of mailboxes via imap. When I input the mailbox string for the g key I have to write it like this: *{imap.mid.net/anonymous}pub/NET/94-07-25 This format specifies a single mailbox. Will it be possible in the future to write it so that is specifies a pattern. This would allow me to display multiple mailboxes as oppose to letters in a single mailbox. To take this one step further, will pine in 3.90 accept the following in the .pinerc news-collections=Groups *{imap.mid.net/anonymous}[pub/NET/94*] I just can't get this to work in any shape or form. Paul From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 08:20:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17486; Mon, 25 Jul 94 08:20:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08224; Mon, 25 Jul 94 08:02:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08218; Mon, 25 Jul 94 08:01:58 -0700 Received: from jhunix2.hcf.jhu.edu ([128.220.2.232]) by jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu with SMTP id <345-3>; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 10:57:30 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 10:57:16 -0400 From: Andy Poling Subject: TENEX mailbox slow to delete? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have recently changed to using a tenex mailbox for better performance reading my rather large mailbox. I use IMAP (IMAP2bis server that came with PINE v 3.89) in PINE (v 3.89) to read my mail. The problem I have noticed, since changing to a tenex mailbox, is that every delete (just hitting "d") seems to take about 1 second (the expunge is very fast when I get to it). You can imagine how frustrating it is to try to delete ~300 consecutive messages. Am I missing something or is this a design fault in the tenex "driver" code? -Andy Andy Poling Internet: andy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu UNIX Systems Programmer Bitnet: ANDY@JHUNIX Homewood Academic Computing Voice: (410)516-8096 Johns Hopkins University UUCP: uunet!mimsy!jhunix!andy From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 08:54:06 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA18594; Mon, 25 Jul 94 08:54:06 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08948; Mon, 25 Jul 94 08:39:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08940; Mon, 25 Jul 94 08:39:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSRr2-00000MC; Mon, 25 Jul 94 08:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ivanlau@acsu.buffalo.edu (Mighty Man) Subject: A few things Message-Id: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 14:30:09 GMT I just started using pine, and I've got most of my problems taken care of by friends, but still have a few things I need help with. 1) How can I set pine to not create the ~/mail directory, but rather use my ~/Mailbox directory, where I have the saved-messages files? 2) I have pine set up with the news-collection on our NNTP server. How can I get pine to list just the groups with news messages? Also, how to I get pine to start at the first new message, instead of at the last? 3) How does pine read kill files (i.e., How do I set pine to read a kill file from a particular place? for example, I have a kill file for the news group rec.collecting.cards, so my kill file exists as ~/Mailbox/ rec/collecting/cards/KILL) 4) Is there a simple way to mark all messages as deleted (catch up in most mail readers)? Thanks, From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 10:26:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22623; Mon, 25 Jul 94 10:26:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24287; Mon, 25 Jul 94 10:08:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24281; Mon, 25 Jul 94 10:08:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qST14-00000HC; Mon, 25 Jul 94 09:36 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine FAQ and PC-NFS support Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 08:48:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <30vtjv$5vm$1@perth.dialix.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <30vtjv$5vm$1@perth.dialix.oz.au> There is a Pine FAQ, but we have not published it yet... There _is_ a PC-NFS version of PC-Pine. Where did you find the indication that it was not yet available? |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On 25 Jul 1994, ITS wrote: > Hi, > > I have a couple of queries which some kind soul (or souls) may be > able to help me with... > > Is there a Pine FAQ? My local news site doesn't appear to have a > copy. > > (Sorry if this *is* a FAQ!) I have just downloaded the pine 3.89 > distribution and I see that support for PC-Pine over PC-NFS is > expected 'real soon now'. Is there any indication how soon that > might be? > > I would appreciate any replies by email if possible. > > Thanks in advance, > > David Gray davidg@itswa.dialix.oz.au > > > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 10:38:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23041; Mon, 25 Jul 94 10:38:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11245; Mon, 25 Jul 94 10:25:59 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11239; Mon, 25 Jul 94 10:25:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSTQy-00000MC; Mon, 25 Jul 94 10:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: A few things Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 09:12:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 25 Jul 1994, Mighty Man wrote: > > I just started using pine, and I've got most of my problems taken care of > by friends, but still have a few things I need help with. > > 1) How can I set pine to not create the ~/mail directory, but rather use > my ~/Mailbox directory, where I have the saved-messages files? > Setting the "mail-directory" variable in your .pinerc file should take care of that. > 2) I have pine set up with the news-collection on our NNTP server. How > can I get pine to list just the groups with news messages? Also, how > to I get pine to start at the first new message, instead of at the last? > This mode is not available. All subscribed newsgroups are listed. > 3) How does pine read kill files (i.e., How do I set pine to read a kill > file from a particular place? for example, I have a kill file for the > news group rec.collecting.cards, so my kill file exists as ~/Mailbox/ > rec/collecting/cards/KILL) > Pine does not read kill files at this time. > 4) Is there a simple way to mark all messages as deleted (catch up in > most mail readers)? > Not until Pine 3.90 comes out... > Thanks, > > --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 11:12:15 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24295; Mon, 25 Jul 94 11:12:15 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25284; Mon, 25 Jul 94 10:55:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25278; Mon, 25 Jul 94 10:55:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSTyY-00000HC; Mon, 25 Jul 94 10:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk Subject: Re: Windows Version of Pine? Date: 25 Jul 1994 16:42:49 GMT Message-Id: <310q29$rh0@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: In , gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: [cut] > >It's important that expectations be set correctly. We've already had >negative feedback from a couple of people who expect(ed) a full GUI >version with a nice big SEND button, scrollable text regions, full Windows >cut/paste, etc. As a matter of fact, the head of our Client Services >department is not sure we should even release "PCP4W" since he feels so >many people will be disappointed. (We intend to make it available anyway, >but if you have an opinion on this issue, one way or the other, please let >me know... mail just to me, though; let's not burden the list.) I'm putting this on the newsgroup instead, to make the extra point that:- I would assume that the Winsock version will also work in a DOS window under OS/2 with IBM's TCPIP (with the winsock extra feature); given that, and also on the "half a loaf better than no bread" I would vote enthusiastically for whatever is available. > >-teg > >On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, David L Miller wrote: > >> WinPine has not been released yet. It will probably be part of the Pine >> 3.90 release... >> >> |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 >> |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) >> University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 >> 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA >> >> On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, Bruce T. Jorgens wrote: >> >> > I thought I saw a reference to a Windows version of Pine several months back. >> > Does anyone know if one exists and where I could obtain a copy? >> > >> > >> > ##### ### #### Bruce T. Jorgens brucej@on-ramp.ior.com >> > # # # # # Internet On-Ramp Inc. (509) 927-RAMP >> > # # # #### E. 3724 11th >> > ##### ### # # Spokane, WA 99202 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 11:28:38 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24986; Mon, 25 Jul 94 11:28:38 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12313; Mon, 25 Jul 94 11:11:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12307; Mon, 25 Jul 94 11:11:37 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSU8n-00000bC; Mon, 25 Jul 94 10:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy.Behrens@coat.com Subject: Re: Pico Question - CTRL-SPACE Date: 25 Jul 1994 16:26:49 GMT Message-Id: <310p49$jqv@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> References: slake@mason1.gmu.edu ("Sherry H. Lake") writes: > I received the following question from one of our users. Can anyone offer > my an advice to give him? I don't think the control sequences can be > changed in pico. When I tried CTRL-SPACE, using vt100 emulation with > telnet program CUTCP, I just get a space (CTRL-@ does nothing). CTRL-SPACE is just one of the possible ways to enter this character. Other possibilities, depending on how your emulator is set up, might be CTRL-@, CTRL-` [grave-accent], or even CTRL-0 [zero]. (I'm assuming that you pressed "shift" together with "ctrl" when you tried CTRL-@, since @ is a shifted character). > I'm getting a bit irritated at a misfeature of pico. Three quick > control-spaces wakes up my modem, dropping the connection. Control-space > is used by pico to navigate. Could it be changed? If this is a Hayes-command-set modem, you can change the wake-up character by setting S-register 2. The usual wake-up sequence is "+++", corresponding to S2=43. It looks like this modem has been set to S2=0. To disable the wake-up character entirely, use S2=255. Andy -- Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. (Anne Herbert) Andy Behrens Burlington Coat Factory, Schoolhouse Rd., Etna, N.H. 03750 (603) 643-2800 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 13:16:05 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29128; Mon, 25 Jul 94 13:16:05 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27834; Mon, 25 Jul 94 13:01:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27828; Mon, 25 Jul 94 13:01:03 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27007; Mon, 25 Jul 94 13:01:02 -0700 Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26346; Mon, 25 Jul 94 12:03:21 -0700 Received: from ee.hit.fi by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13433; Mon, 25 Jul 94 12:02:47 -0700 Received: from localhost (tkatvist@localhost) by ee.hit.fi (8.6.4/8.6.4) id WAA08295 for pine@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 22:00:51 +0300 From: Tommi Katvisto Message-Id: <199407251900.WAA08295@ee.hit.fi> Subject: Pine To: pine@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 22:00:50 +0300 (EET DST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23alpha] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1183 Resent-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 13:00:57 -0700 (PDT) Resent-From: David L Miller Resent-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Resent-Message-Id: Is there run and ready installation available for Pine to BSD/386 GAMMA 4.1 ??? I've tried with Pine 3.89 (not sure if it is newest), it creates all other procs (inclued with pine) great but pine compile stops to... Making Pico make: don't know how to make pine. Stop Making Pine. cc -g -DDEBUG -c ttyin.c In file included from ../c-client/osdep.h:42, from headers.h:78, from ttyin.c:64 /usr/include/string.h:53: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memc /usr/include/string.h:54: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memc /usr/include/string.h:59: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strc /usr/include/string.h:61: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strc ttyin.c: In function `read_with_timeout': ttyin.c:299: storage size of `tmo' isn't known *** Error code 1 Stop. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: No such file or directory size: bin/mtest: No such file or directory size: bin/imapd: No such file or directory text data bss dec hex 118784 8192 15012 141988 22aa4 bin/pico Hope U can help... Im so tired of elm.. tkatvist@ee.hit.fi From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 14:55:50 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02406; Mon, 25 Jul 94 14:55:50 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00143; Mon, 25 Jul 94 14:41:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00137; Mon, 25 Jul 94 14:41:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSXEf-00000FC; Mon, 25 Jul 94 14:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thakis@watserv.ucr.edu (Xan Tolbert) Subject: Posting with Pine? Date: 25 Jul 1994 20:58:57 GMT Message-Id: <31192h$gie@galaxy.ucr.edu> I use pine almost exclusively with my internet account. The main reason for this is that my account is on a NeXT computer, and I don't like to use NeXT-mail because it cannot be used over the modem. Thus, I also use rtin to read News. I hate the vi editor that rtin uses. For the normal NeXT news reader, it uses NeXT-mail to post. So, I was wondering if it is possible to use pine to post to the news service. Thanks in advance, and I will be watching this newsgroup to catch any replies. Thakis@watserv.ucr.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 15:59:02 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA04770; Mon, 25 Jul 94 15:59:02 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01370; Mon, 25 Jul 94 15:46:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu:brentb@orca.fhcrc.org> Received: from arizvm1.CCIT.Arizona.EDU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01364; Mon, 25 Jul 94 15:46:13 -0700 Received: from orca.fhcrc.org by ARIZVM1.ccit.arizona.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 25 Jul 94 15:46:19 MST Received: by orca.fhcrc.org (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA15479; Mon, 25 Jul 1994 13:44:00 -0700 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 13:42:37 -800 (PDT) From: Brent Blumenstein Subject: Re: Windows Version of Pine? To: bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <310q29$rh0@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I too hope for compatibility with OS/2 and IBM's TCP/IP for OS/2, even if it is only through a DOS window. -- Brent A. Blumenstein | tel.: 206 667 4623 Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center | fax: 206 667 4408 1124 Columbia Street MP-557 | e-mail: brentb@orca.fhcrc.org Seattle, WA 98104 USA | On 25 Jul 1994 bl10@cus.cam.ac.uk wrote: > In , gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) writes: > [cut] > > > >It's important that expectations be set correctly. We've already had > >negative feedback from a couple of people who expect(ed) a full GUI > >version with a nice big SEND button, scrollable text regions, full Windows > >cut/paste, etc. As a matter of fact, the head of our Client Services > >department is not sure we should even release "PCP4W" since he feels so > >many people will be disappointed. (We intend to make it available anyway, > >but if you have an opinion on this issue, one way or the other, please let > >me know... mail just to me, though; let's not burden the list.) > > I'm putting this on the newsgroup instead, to make the extra point that:- > I would assume that the Winsock version will also work in a DOS window > under OS/2 with IBM's TCPIP (with the winsock extra feature); given that, > and also on the "half a loaf better than no bread" I would vote > enthusiastically for whatever is available. > > > > > >-teg > > > >On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, David L Miller wrote: > > > >> WinPine has not been released yet. It will probably be part of the Pine > >> 3.90 release... > >> > >> |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > >> |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > >> University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 > >> 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA > >> > >> On Fri, 22 Jul 1994, Bruce T. Jorgens wrote: > >> > >> > I thought I saw a reference to a Windows version of Pine several months back. > >> > Does anyone know if one exists and where I could obtain a copy? > >> > > >> > > >> > ##### ### #### Bruce T. Jorgens brucej@on-ramp.ior.com > >> > # # # # # Internet On-Ramp Inc. (509) 927-RAMP > >> > # # # #### E. 3724 11th > >> > ##### ### # # Spokane, WA 99202 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 223 334600 > Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 223 334713 > University of Cambridge Computing Service Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk > New Museums Site, Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 17:59:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08421; Mon, 25 Jul 94 17:59:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03609; Mon, 25 Jul 94 17:49:19 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03603; Mon, 25 Jul 94 17:49:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSaRr-000006C; Mon, 25 Jul 94 17:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Reply-To: Date: 25 Jul 1994 18:33:37 GMT Message-Id: <3110i1$fqe@nwfocus.wa.com> References: <30mouk$i4o@j51.com> >> GOH LIU KANG (eng10380@leonis.nus.sg) wrote: >> : Hi, probably an FAQ. But how do I get the Reply-To: inserted in the >> : outgoing message header? A net-mail reply would be appreciated. >> : Thanks >On 21 Jul 1994, Dean Penn wrote: >> Create a file named "elmheader" . In it write: >> >> Reply-To: eng10380@leonis.nus.sg >> >> and place it in your .elm directory. egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (Ed Greshko) writes: > Errrr.....excuse me....I'd thought this was the group to >discuss "pine"????? Actually both GOH LIU KANG's and Dean Penn's articles were crossposted to comp.mail.elm and comp.mail.pine. The answer is that with Pine 3.89 you can't have customized headers but with Elm you can. Pine 3.90 (coming RSN) will allow customized headers.... -Nancy -- Nancy McGough, Infinite Ink From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 18:59:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09604; Mon, 25 Jul 94 18:59:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21223; Mon, 25 Jul 94 18:49:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21217; Mon, 25 Jul 94 18:49:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSbMV-000006C; Mon, 25 Jul 94 18:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: polat@Deakin.Edu.Au (Ayse Ekinci) Subject: Pine Manuals Date: 26 Jul 1994 00:26:30 GMT Message-Id: <311l7m$840@sol.ccs.deakin.edu.au> Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me. I am in the process of scheduling a workshop for some of our post-grads to introduce them to the internet using a number of tools. Not wanting to re-invent the wheel (nor do I really have the time), .... I'm looking for sites where I can download training/user manuals on: list-servers email tools (pine and eudora) ^^^^^^ ftp gopher WWW Mosaic rn and nn news readers (Manuals designed to teach the novice). Many thanks in advance Ayse Ekinci polat@deakin.edu.au From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 19:50:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10522; Mon, 25 Jul 94 19:50:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05035; Mon, 25 Jul 94 19:39:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05029; Mon, 25 Jul 94 19:39:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSc97-000006C; Mon, 25 Jul 94 19:21 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: n8742538@beaker.cc.wwu.edu (GH References: <31192h$gie@galaxy.ucr.edu> Date: 26 Jul 94 01:03:25 GMT thakis@watserv.ucr.edu (Xan Tolbert) writes: >I use pine almost exclusively with my internet account. The main reason for >this is that my account is on a NeXT computer, and I don't like to use >NeXT-mail because it cannot be used over the modem. Thus, I also use rtin >to read News. I hate the vi editor that rtin uses. For the normal NeXT >news reader, it uses NeXT-mail to post. So, I was wondering if it is >possible to use pine to post to the news service. Thanks in advance, and >I will be watching this newsgroup to catch any replies. > Thakis@watserv.ucr.edu Not sure about using pine, but you can set pico as your default editor. Check your .* files and add the setting there. Or if you're having trouble, you can add setenv EDITOR pico to your .cshrc or .login files. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 20:13:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11238; Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:13:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05454; Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:04:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from watson.lib.muohio.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05448; Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:03:58 -0700 Received: by watson.lib.muohio.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA04342; Mon, 25 Jul 94 23:03:53 -0400 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 1994 23:03:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Peter Murray Subject: Re: "Y" command in Pine does not print To: Nathan Elke Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <30vnc7$rpg@tribune.usask.ca> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 25 Jul 1994, Nathan Elke wrote: > I'm not sure if Hans' problem is exactly like mine, but when I try to > print using the 'Y' command, it prints for awhile on my printer, then > stops and locks up my session. I hit ctrl-z to get out of it, and my > printer becomes my monitor (all commands and their output goes to the > printer), while my monitor stays the same. I then quit my modem program > (Telix in this case), start it up again, and all is fine. Sounds like a flow-control problem. The host system is dumping data faster than the printer can print it, so for large files the terminal emulator is forced to throw away data because it cannot buffer it. You then lose the "Turn Printer Off" control codes, so everything the host system sends still gets printed on the printer. I have no specific suggestions, other than to be sure the flow control parameters are set correctly. Peter -- Peter Murray, Library Systems Manager pmurray@watson.lib.muohio.edu University Libraries Systems Department pemurray@miavx1.bitnet King Library, Miami University, Oxford, Ohio, USA W:513/529-2884 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Mon Jul 25 20:41:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11920; Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:41:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05935; Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:30:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05929; Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:30:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qScv9-000006C; Mon, 25 Jul 94 20:11 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: clarkd@bvsd.k12.co.us (David Clark) Subject: saving incoming mail to folders? Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 02:39:53 GMT I'm having difficulty filtering incoming mail into folders. I've configured the .pinerc, but it doesn't seem to be doing what I hoped it would. An6 help would be appreciated. David Clark clarkd@bvsd.k12.co.us From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 26 06:02:11 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25073; Tue, 26 Jul 94 06:02:11 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13481; Tue, 26 Jul 94 05:45:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13475; Tue, 26 Jul 94 05:45:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSlbz-00000AC; Tue, 26 Jul 94 05:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ribarbe@garlic.com (Richard Barber) Subject: Re: How do you "Bounce" e-mail Date: 26 Jul 1994 01:45:10 -0700 Message-Id: <312iem$n9d@garlic.com> References: <30o1rs$gp1@crl3.crl.com> <1994Jul22.143627.1648@pshrink.chi.il.us> Steven King [Really!] (veck@pshrink.chi.il.us) wrote: : daniel@crl.com (Daniel M. Gonnella) publicly declared: : >I am going to Hawaii for two weeks in early August and was wondering how : >to bounce incoming internet e-mail. I am going to use my CompuServe : >address as CompuServe has a POP in Hawaii. Can this be done with Pine? : You don't want to bounce mail, you want to forward it. (Okay, terminology : difference.) Ideally, the transport agent should do this for you without : any intervention from Pine or any other user agent. : If you're on a Unix system you can create a ".forward" file in your home : directory which should redirect all your mail to a specified address. If That bounces it I think. Forwarding (terminology blah) cmiiw is like mailing something from you to someone. While bouncing is like redirecting the To: line to someone else. Some newsreaders have a bounce command that mails an article to someone else and it looks like it was From: the original poster, not the bouncer. who knows. -rick -- --- E am not especially clever, just basically very average, E merely try to maximise thee effectiveness of whatever gifts or abilities E have by focusing them towards what E want to happen. Genesis P-Orridge finger for PGP public key 9 Jul 81 TGHQGB Geek v2.1: GAT d--- H->+ s+ g+6 au0 !a w+++(---) v(---)>* C++++ US+++(++++) !P 3+ L+ E---- N++ K+>+++++ W--- M+$ V- po--- Y++(+) t j--IRC G++ b+++ B- e* u---* h!>++@ f* r++ n+ y-**$ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 26 06:42:28 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25879; Tue, 26 Jul 94 06:42:28 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13875; Tue, 26 Jul 94 06:12:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13862; Tue, 26 Jul 94 06:12:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSm13-00000AC; Tue, 26 Jul 94 05:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aravitch@pnet1.pnet.com (Alan L. Ravitch) Subject: Want headers Date: 26 Jul 1994 08:41:14 -0400 Message-Id: <31309a$j42@pnet1.pnet.com> Hope someone can help a Pine relative newbie with a question... A great deal of my Internet mail comes from a mail reflector. The only way I have to tell whether or not someone sent the message to me individually or it is coming from the mail reflector is to be able to see the internet mail headers, as opposed to the very nice cleaned up to/from/cc that Pine gives. I looked thru the .pinerc file, where I figured out on my own how to do my sig block and get it on the bottom, and theere seemed to be a feature what would do this, that was part of the "old growth" group, which was already specficied. I tried spefically mentioning it anyway, didn't help. So, I'm stumped. Any sugesstions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! :-) Alan -- Commodore Alan L. Ravitch, Official Fleet Rep to Commercial On-Line Svcs.; Moderator, STARFLEET_NET echo, TrekNet; Coordinator, Region 15 - The Spirit of New England; Chapter Pres./CO, USS Nautilus-Greater Hartford, CT CIS:73627,3126 GEnie:A.RAVITCH AOL:AlanR1778 Internet:aravitch@pcnet.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 26 06:54:40 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26065; Tue, 26 Jul 94 06:54:40 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01168; Tue, 26 Jul 94 06:26:56 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from offsv1.cis.McMaster.CA by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01162; Tue, 26 Jul 94 06:26:50 -0700 Received: by offsv1.cis.mcmaster.ca id AA09085 (5.65c/IDA-1.4.4 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Tue, 26 Jul 1994 09:26:22 -0400 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 09:26:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Carolynn Seeley ( Spring )" Subject: Problems compiling 3.89 on SGI To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I compiled PINE 3.89 on our SGI running IRIX Release 4.0.5 last December and we had few problems. We have now upgraded the release of IRIX to 5.2 and PINE 3.89 won't compile. When doing a 'build sgi' I get the following error: cc -O -cckr -Wf,-XNh2000 -Dconst= -DRSH=\"rsh\" -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bsd/rsh\" -c os_sgi.c cfe: Error: os_sgi.c, line 90: '_tzname' undefined; reoccuuences will not be reported. _tzname[t->tm_isdst ? 1 : )]); ---^ *** Error code 1 (bu21) make: fatal error. Has anyone come across this before? Can someone help me with this please? Thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Carolynn Seeley email: seeley@mcmaster.ca Consultant, Office Systems Support cseeley@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca PINE Administrator Computing and Information Services McMaster University, ABB-132 (905) 525-9140 x27090 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 26 08:30:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28280; Tue, 26 Jul 94 08:30:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02675; Tue, 26 Jul 94 08:17:22 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02669; Tue, 26 Jul 94 08:17:15 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qSnzv-00000IC; Tue, 26 Jul 94 08:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marilyn@monroe.ocis.temple.edu (Macgician!) Subject: Re: Want headers Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 10:47:23 -0400 Message-Id: References: <31309a$j42@pnet1.pnet.com> In article <31309a$j42@pnet1.pnet.com>, aravitch@pnet1.pnet.com (Alan L. Ravitch) wrote: + the internet mail headers, as opposed to the very nice cleaned up + to/from/cc that Pine gives. Yes, I am interested in such a feature where if you like you can let Pine display non-standard headers. For ex: a friend of mine has is Std. Disclaimer as a part of his header. While in Pine ofcourse 'am not able to see that. Any help in this greatly apprctd. I know this feature will be very easily avail. in 3.9 when it comes out in two weeks from now. :-) -- @|\@@ Marilyn@monroe.temple.edu http://monroe.temple.edu - @@@@ These views are Orders in Pride Land, where no Hyenas live. /7 @@@@ Mophusa: Everything that the light touches is mine. / @@@@@@ Simbha : Everything, hmmm..what about the Dark Side. \-' @@@@@@@@`-________________ -@@@@@@@@@ Lion King / \ _____/ /_ ______/ |_____- /,________/ `-.___/,__________-----_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Tue Jul 26 23:44:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25849; Tue, 26 Jul 94 23:44:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19142; Tue, 26 Jul 94 23:33:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19136; Tue, 26 Jul 94 23:33:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qT2Dq-00000AC; Tue, 26 Jul 94 23:12 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: malcor@class.class.org (Dan Malcor-LA Times) Subject: Some should get mail, most should not Date: 27 Jul 1994 06:01:50 GMT Message-Id: <314t8e$otq@news.cerf.net> The system we are using for our Internet connection is also used as a database sever. The problem is the Internet users are currently a smaller population then the strictly database users. See when a users sends mail via pine (or any MUA) to a strictly database user it gets delivered to the user even thought that person has no access to a mail reader. The only solution I have come up with so far is to create a file for everyone I don't want to recieve mail in the spool dir and make it read/write to nobody. That should at least cause sendmail heartburn enough to spit the mail back. Sounds a little drastic to me. Any better ideas? -- ====================================================================== Dan Malcor | Los Angeles Times - Editorial Systems Internet: malcor@class.org | Systems Analyst / Programmer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 00:06:41 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26281; Wed, 27 Jul 94 00:06:41 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19399; Tue, 26 Jul 94 23:57:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19393; Tue, 26 Jul 94 23:57:11 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qT2dL-00000DC; Tue, 26 Jul 94 23:38 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: malcor@class.class.org (Dan Malcor-LA Times) Subject: Re: Some should get mail, most should not Date: 27 Jul 1994 06:21:07 GMT Message-Id: <314ucj$po4@news.cerf.net> References: <314t8e$otq@news.cerf.net> In article my own posting I wrote: : The only solution I have come up with so far is to create a file for : everyone I don't want to recieve mail in the spool dir and make it : read/write to nobody. That should at least cause sendmail heartburn : enough to spit the mail back. Sounds a little drastic to me. Of course none of this addresses the rest of the problem, that pine will (very helpfully) fill in the data gathered from /etc/passwd on the users that I don't want to be recieving mail when you finish filling out the To: field (Can't ever have just one problem at a time) -- ====================================================================== Dan Malcor | Los Angeles Times - Editorial Systems Internet: malcor@class.org | Systems Analyst / Programmer From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 00:29:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26616; Wed, 27 Jul 94 00:29:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02376; Wed, 27 Jul 94 00:18:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02370; Wed, 27 Jul 94 00:18:14 -0700 Received: by shiva2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28423; Wed, 27 Jul 94 00:18:01 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 00:18:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Steve Hubert To: Dan Malcor-LA Times Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Some should get mail, most should not In-Reply-To: <314t8e$otq@news.cerf.net> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You could use a line-per-user in the aliases file or a .forward file per user to pipe the mail into a script of some sort that sends back mail explaining the situation to the sender. The script could invoke sendmail directly to send the mail or just use the regular Berkeley mail command to send the mail. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 27 Jul 1994, Dan Malcor-LA Times wrote: > The system we are using for our Internet connection is also used as a > database sever. The problem is the Internet users are currently a > smaller population then the strictly database users. See when a users > sends mail via pine (or any MUA) to a strictly database user it gets > delivered to the user even thought that person has no access to a mail > reader. > > The only solution I have come up with so far is to create a file for > everyone I don't want to recieve mail in the spool dir and make it > read/write to nobody. That should at least cause sendmail heartburn > enough to spit the mail back. Sounds a little drastic to me. > > Any better ideas? > -- > ====================================================================== > Dan Malcor | Los Angeles Times - Editorial Systems > Internet: malcor@class.org | Systems Analyst / Programmer > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 02:22:12 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29323; Wed, 27 Jul 94 02:22:12 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03686; Wed, 27 Jul 94 02:02:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03680; Wed, 27 Jul 94 02:02:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qT4dm-00000JC; Wed, 27 Jul 94 01:47 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: Want headers Date: 26 Jul 1994 16:23:46 GMT Message-Id: <313dai$kg1@news.ysu.edu> References: <31309a$j42@pnet1.pnet.com> In a previous article, Marilyn@monroe.temple.edu (Macgician!) says: >In article <31309a$j42@pnet1.pnet.com>, aravitch@pnet1.pnet.com (Alan L. >Ravitch) wrote: > > + the internet mail headers, as opposed to the very nice cleaned up > + to/from/cc that Pine gives. > >Yes, I am interested in such a feature where if you like you can let Pine >display non-standard headers. For ex: a friend of mine has is Std. Disclaimer >as a part of his header. While in Pine ofcourse 'am not able to see that. >Any help in this greatly apprctd. The command ``H'' will toggle display of short headers, or full headers of mail. If you get an error message, your .pinerc needs to be set to enable this command before it will work. -- Barry Bouwsma, in Ann Arbor Michigan, soon to be back biking eastern Europe Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) Unemployable System Cracker seeking work; food; chocolate; Czech pastries, ice cream, and beer; travel partner; free airline tickets; and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 04:58:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03444; Wed, 27 Jul 94 04:58:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23289; Wed, 27 Jul 94 04:48:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23281; Wed, 27 Jul 94 04:48:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qT73h-00000eC; Wed, 27 Jul 94 04:22 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: Problems compiling 3.89 on SGI Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 10:13:39 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Try changing _tzname to tzname, or just delete that reference entirely. We did the latter with Pine 3.90, since it seems that SGI can't make up its mind what it is called. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 05:00:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03514; Wed, 27 Jul 94 05:00:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05872; Wed, 27 Jul 94 04:48:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05866; Wed, 27 Jul 94 04:48:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qT6xl-00000dC; Wed, 27 Jul 94 04:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: re: TENEX mailbox slow to delete? Date: Tue, 26 Jul 1994 09:57:13 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: One possible explanation for your delete problem may be in your system's implementation of the fsync() call. The tenex driver uses update mode I/O; a delete is simple the change of a single byte of a file, followed by an fsync() to force the update to be written to the disk. An aggragate delete (delete of multiple messages at the same time -- this is supported in Pine 3.90) would update all the bytes before doing the fsync(). Some operating systems implement fsync() as sync() which can be quite bad. If this seems to be the problem, try disabling the fsync() calls. This may improve performance, at the risk of being vulnerable to lost updates in the event of a crash. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 06:33:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06025; Wed, 27 Jul 94 06:33:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07094; Wed, 27 Jul 94 06:23:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07088; Wed, 27 Jul 94 06:23:47 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qT8gc-000006C; Wed, 27 Jul 94 06:06 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Message-Id: References: <30f3gb$gk9@nic-nac.CSU.net> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 12:28:42 GMT to read mail (not write...) offline, assuming you have a dos sys, use "readmail". very good program, and couldn't be cheaper... it's freeware... Offline, with my old xt i use readmail to read and I write with pico (that cames with the pine.zip. pine won't work as offline, but pico works anyway). The advantage of readmail is that works even if I download many folders created with pine. Pucho From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 07:42:44 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08009; Wed, 27 Jul 94 07:42:44 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08029; Wed, 27 Jul 94 07:30:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08023; Wed, 27 Jul 94 07:30:24 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qT9zx-0001IWC; Wed, 27 Jul 94 07:30 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA21083; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 07:16:06 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 07:16:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: Want headers To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: <313dai$kg1@news.ysu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Jul 1994, Barry Bouwsma wrote: > > + the internet mail headers, as opposed to the very nice cleaned up > > + to/from/cc that Pine gives. > > > >Yes, I am interested in such a feature where if you like you can let Pine > >display non-standard headers. For ex: a friend of mine has is Std. Disclaimer > >as a part of his header. While in Pine ofcourse 'am not able to see that. > >Any help in this greatly apprctd. > > The command ``H'' will toggle display of short headers, or full > headers of mail. If you get an error message, your .pinerc needs to > be set to enable this command before it will work. WHERE???? While reading them? B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 14:50:20 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27097; Wed, 27 Jul 94 14:50:20 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17058; Wed, 27 Jul 94 14:24:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17044; Wed, 27 Jul 94 14:24:18 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA14410; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 13:47:03 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 13:47:03 -0400 From: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu (Steve-"Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands") Message-Id: <9407271747.AA14410@ultrix> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Blind CC's Hi, I was wondering if anyone out there knows of a way to send mail along with a blind cc. We have discovered that blind cc's are not very popular among mail systems, but I have been told there is a way to do so. I have read the man pages, docs, and all else I could find. Any help is appreciated. Thank you in advance. Steve From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 15:14:46 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27967; Wed, 27 Jul 94 15:14:46 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17809; Wed, 27 Jul 94 15:01:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17782; Wed, 27 Jul 94 15:00:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTGiC-000006C; Wed, 27 Jul 94 14:40 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billy@utdallas.edu (Billy Barron) Subject: Encryption Date: 27 Jul 1994 18:31:50 GMT Message-Id: <31696m$bdr@news.utdallas.edu> I suspect this is a can of worms post, but here it goes. :-) I am wondering what the plans are for PINE and encryption. Is PGP, PEM, an API or none of the above the direction that PINE is going to take? We have a new committee on electronic forms being formed right now and I think they are leaning towards PEM. By the way, if any of the ISA Corp people read this, what is the direction of ECS Mail? Thanks, -- Billy Barron, Network Services Manager, Univ of Texas at Dallas billy@utdallas.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 16:01:37 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29276; Wed, 27 Jul 94 16:01:37 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06783; Wed, 27 Jul 94 15:51:44 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from lupine.nsi.nasa.gov by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06777; Wed, 27 Jul 94 15:51:40 -0700 Received: (from mnewell@localhost) by lupine.nsi.nasa.gov (8.6.9/8.6.9) id SAA06850; Wed, 27 Jul 1994 18:46:41 -0400 Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 18:46:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Michael C. Newell" Subject: Re: Blind CC's To: Steve-Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <9407271747.AA14410@ultrix> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 27 Jul 1994, Steve-Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands wrote: > I was wondering if anyone out there knows of a way to send mail > along with a blind cc. We have discovered that blind cc's are not very > popular among mail systems, but I have been told there is a way to do so. > I have read the man pages, docs, and all else I could find. Any help is > appreciated. Thank you in advance. As I recall you put the cursor in the header area and press CONTROl-R [Rich Headers] and the "Bcc" field magically appears. Some systems don't acknowlege them though, so in some cases the recipients may actually see the "Bcc" list. Thanks, Mike +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 18:17:10 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03709; Wed, 27 Jul 94 18:17:10 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21485; Wed, 27 Jul 94 18:10:27 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21473; Wed, 27 Jul 94 18:10:12 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTJjN-000006C; Wed, 27 Jul 94 17:53 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg) Subject: Re: Some should get mail, most should not Date: 27 Jul 1994 15:09:54 GMT Message-Id: <315tc2$lc0@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <314t8e$otq@news.cerf.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In article <314t8e$otq@news.cerf.net>, Dan Malcor-LA Times wrote: >The only solution I have come up with so far is to create a file for >everyone I don't want to recieve mail in the spool dir and make it >read/write to nobody. That should at least cause sendmail heartburn >enough to spit the mail back. Sounds a little drastic to me. >Any better ideas? How about aliasing every user to a nonexisting username (like "nonexistant", don't use "nobody" :-)? -- Sincerely, berg@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de Stephen R. van den Berg (AKA BuGless). To boldly program, where *no* man has programmed before! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 19:53:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05885; Wed, 27 Jul 94 19:53:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10664; Wed, 27 Jul 94 19:45:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10658; Wed, 27 Jul 94 19:45:28 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTL9k-00000FC; Wed, 27 Jul 94 19:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: r02kar@einstein.desy.de (Karsten Kuenne) Subject: Re: Problems compiling 3.89 on SGI Date: 27 Jul 1994 16:41:56 GMT Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: cseeley@offsv1.cis.mcmaster.ca's message of Tue, 26 Jul 1994 13:26:21 GMT >>>>> ""Carolynn" == "Carolynn Seeley ( Spring )" writes: "Carolynn> I compiled PINE 3.89 on our SGI running IRIX Release 4.0.5 "Carolynn> last December and we had few problems. We have now "Carolynn> upgraded the release of IRIX to 5.2 and PINE 3.89 won't "Carolynn> compile. "Carolynn> When doing a 'build sgi' I get the following error: "Carolynn> cc -O -cckr -Wf,-XNh2000 -Dconst= -DRSH=\"rsh\" "Carolynn> -DRSHPATH=\"/usr/bsd/rsh\" -c os_sgi.c cfe: Error: "Carolynn> os_sgi.c, line 90: '_tzname' undefined; reoccuuences will "Carolynn> not be reported. _tzname[t->tm_isdst ? 1 : )]); ---^ *** "Carolynn> Error code 1 (bu21) "Carolynn> make: fatal error. "Carolynn> Has anyone come across this before? Can someone help me "Carolynn> with this please? Thank you. It's easy to fix, you have to declare _tzname in os_sgi.c. Add the following line at around line 82 in os_sgi.c: extern char *_tzname[2]; That should do it. Karsten. -- //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Karsten Kuenne, DESY (-R2-), Notkestr. 85, 22607 Hamburg, Germany phone: +49-40-8998-3315 fax: +49-40-8998-4429 e-mail: , From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 22:24:28 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08775; Wed, 27 Jul 94 22:24:28 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12397; Wed, 27 Jul 94 22:15:58 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12389; Wed, 27 Jul 94 22:15:55 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTNJg-00000HC; Wed, 27 Jul 94 21:43 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: abrown@corsa.ucr.edu (Andrew Brown) Subject: Pine for VMS? Date: 27 Jul 1994 18:14:00 GMT Message-Id: <316858$9lo@galaxy.ucr.edu> I was wondering if there was a version of PINE that runs on a VAX/VMS computer? If so, where can I get a copy? Thanks in advance, Andrew Brown From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 22:53:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09442; Wed, 27 Jul 94 22:53:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25229; Wed, 27 Jul 94 22:45:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25221; Wed, 27 Jul 94 22:45:51 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTO0n-000006C; Wed, 27 Jul 94 22:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: n7044623@rowlf.cc.wwu.edu (Gary Burlingame) Subject: Re: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Message-Id: References: <30f3gb$gk9@nic-nac.CSU.net> <316k7m$kmj@panix.com> Date: 28 Jul 94 03:05:36 GMT jph@panix.com (James P. Huggins) writes: >In pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) writes: >>to read mail (not write...) offline, assuming you have a dos sys, use >>"readmail". very good program, and couldn't be cheaper... it's freeware... >>Offline, with my old xt i use readmail to read and I write with pico >>(that cames with the pine.zip. pine won't work as offline, but pico works >>anyway). The advantage of readmail is that works even if I download many >>folders created with pine. >>Pucho >Sounds great, but where do I get it? Try: brolga.cc.uq.oz.au Location: /POPmail/readmail.exe File -rw-r--r-- 57312 1991 Jul 14 00:00:00 GMT readmail.exe It works, it's slow, kind of hokey, but like they said, free! From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 23:01:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09663; Wed, 27 Jul 94 23:01:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12857; Wed, 27 Jul 94 22:55:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12851; Wed, 27 Jul 94 22:55:45 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA02066; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 02:01:42 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 02:01:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Mann Subject: Re: Blind CC's To: "Michael C. Newell" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am running Ultrix 4.3 and Ctrl-R worked beautifully. Thank you so much. Steve "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." -RUSH ================================================================== / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | | Home: 722-1632 0 0 | | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | \ This line left blank for no reason / ================================================================= On Wed, 27 Jul 1994, Michael C. Newell wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jul 1994, Steve-Ill build your dreams with these 2 hands wrote: > > > I was wondering if anyone out there knows of a way to send mail > > along with a blind cc. We have discovered that blind cc's are not very > > popular among mail systems, but I have been told there is a way to do so. > > I have read the man pages, docs, and all else I could find. Any help is > > appreciated. Thank you in advance. > > As I recall you put the cursor in the header area and press CONTROl-R > [Rich Headers] and the "Bcc" field magically appears. Some systems don't > acknowlege them though, so in some cases the recipients may actually see > the "Bcc" list. > > Thanks, > > Mike > > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > |Mike Newell | The opinions expressed herein are | > |NASA Science Internet Network Systems | my own, and do not necessarily | > |Sterling Software, Inc. | reflect those of the NSI program, | > |MNewell@nsipo.nasa.gov | Sterling Software, NASA, or anyone | > |+1-202-434-8954 | else. | > +--------------------------------------+------------------------------------+ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 23:09:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09839; Wed, 27 Jul 94 23:09:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12947; Wed, 27 Jul 94 23:01:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12941; Wed, 27 Jul 94 23:01:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTOE3-00000FC; Wed, 27 Jul 94 22:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Re: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Message-Id: References: <30f3gb$gk9@nic-nac.CSU.net> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 03:12:34 GMT Follow up to what I wrote yesterday... Pine and PCPine requires an active conection to a mail server... (being sendmail or whatever else in your network...) thereafter *pine is not an offline reader*. But... with readmail I'm quite happy... of course not all the features that one would love... but improving all the time (I just dowl. ver. 4.1, a great improvement... I can now open several "folders" at the same time...) for those who want to check it out is, for some strange reason, under the subdirectory of "textutil" in any of de SimTel ms-dos mirrors. I do not now if it is allowable, but I will like to "post" the zip here (after all is freeware, and as far as i now is the *only* offline reader that we, dos users, can use when not connected with the unix...) Shalom Pucho (aka marcos) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Wed Jul 27 23:44:23 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10353; Wed, 27 Jul 94 23:44:23 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13358; Wed, 27 Jul 94 23:37:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13352; Wed, 27 Jul 94 23:37:03 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTOop-000006C; Wed, 27 Jul 94 23:19 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cccdavid@dale.ucdavis.edu (Dave Zavatson) Subject: Re: Want headers Message-Id: References: <313dai$kg1@news.ysu.edu> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 04:22:22 GMT Brian P. Hampson (brian@asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca) wrote: : > : > The command ``H'' will toggle display of short headers, or full : > headers of mail. If you get an error message, your .pinerc needs to : > be set to enable this command before it will work. : WHERE???? While reading them? : B. Yes, while reading the message press 'H'. You must also set this option in your .pinerc feature-list=enable-full-header-cmd or feature-list=old-growth --Dave -- ''' (o o) /----------------------------oOO--(_)--OOo------------------------------------\ | David Zavatson |Mein Schatz, es ist soweit. Unsere Liebe ist vorbei.| |dhzavatson@ucdavis.edu |Ich kann nicht von Dir gehen. Zwei Gefuehle bleiben | | UCD IT Systems Group | stehen: Liebe und Hass, sind sich doch so nah. -ECO| \-----------------------------------------------------------------------------/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 00:18:34 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10894; Thu, 28 Jul 94 00:18:34 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13686; Thu, 28 Jul 94 00:06:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13680; Thu, 28 Jul 94 00:05:57 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTPHG-00000HC; Wed, 27 Jul 94 23:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: holemans@reks.uia.ac.be (Wim.Holemans) Subject: status of pine 3.90 Message-Id: <1994Jul28.063622.29384@reks.uia.ac.be> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 06:36:22 GMT Can anyone comment on the status of pine 3.90 ? I thought it was announced for the spring. Also any news about a windows version ? Thanks, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Wim Holemans phone + 32 3 820 22 03 Network/System manager fax + 32 3 820 22 44 U.I.A. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 00:54:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11648; Thu, 28 Jul 94 00:54:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26669; Thu, 28 Jul 94 00:41:39 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26663; Thu, 28 Jul 94 00:41:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTPoQ-00000AC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 00:23 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tomku@radar.li.icl.se (Tomas Kullman) Subject: IMAP is a failure? Date: 27 Jul 1994 19:42:45 GMT Message-Id: <316dbl$rm@radar.li.icl.se> In "Open Systems Today", June 20, 1994, page 72 "TCP/IP Packages" 5th column 3rd paragraph you can read: "At one time, IMAP was a serious against POP for the remote-access E-mail protocol crown, but POP appears to have won, at least for now." (Sorry for . Let's blame my fax's lack of resolution) The conclusion seem to be based on the ratio between mailreaders POP versus IMAP support among TCP/IP packages for Windows PCs. I happens to know about at least one big software vendor being _very_ concerned about this article and making future plans accordingly. Not a very substancial decision may be, but the tendency is somewhat alarming. If many vendors put importance in these kind of speculating articles and, even worse, take a journalist's interpretation as facts of life, we are in trouble, folks. I think most of the people out there don't understand the benefits of IMAP. They seem to think one mail access protocol is enough and choose the one they understand most/that is least complicated/have been around longest. I guess a _big_ obstacle for IMAP is the delayed process of making the draft of IMAP4 to a RFC. Is IMAP too complicated to implement? If c-client hadn't been there for us to catch, we had definitely been an average POP client today. We hadn't been able to do the core coding ourself, due to limited budget. Thank's Mark, you saved us. Are big vendors afraid to rely on free software? Too bad if they have to invent the wheel all over again just because of some principle. Or rather, select technology by initial cost and not by functionality. Comments, please... (Note that this posting is biased by my own fondness of IMAP :) -- Tomas Kullman ICL ProSystems AB, SWEDEN "Cyberspace is one of my vices" "Dreaming is another..." From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 02:05:17 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13493; Thu, 28 Jul 94 02:05:17 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15092; Thu, 28 Jul 94 01:51:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15080; Thu, 28 Jul 94 01:51:08 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTQuW-00000DC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 01:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ag786@yfn.ysu.edu (Barry Bouwsma) Subject: Re: wrong characterset Date: 28 Jul 1994 08:31:35 GMT Message-Id: <317qd7$e29@news.ysu.edu> References: <1994Jul27.205903.3791@birdland.rhein-neckar.de> In a previous article, maja@birdland.rhein-neckar.de (Martin Jangowski) says: >From time to time I receive mail sent with a different charset than the >us-ascii my linux uses. Pine acommpanies this with a message like > >[The following text is in the "ISO-8859-1" character set] >[Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set] >[Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] > >Unfortunately I have no idea how to change my character set to ISO-8859-1. There are two things you need to change. First, do you see the ISO Latin-1 characters correctly? That is, a with umlaut, or do you see the US-ASCII equivalent of d ? Or do you see a different character altogether? If the character is displayed as it should be, then all you need to do is set your .pinerc so that it explicitly states your value for the charset is ISO-8859-1 (failing to specify it means US-ASCII is assumed). Not being familiar with Linux, I can't give you precise directions on what to do to get the correct characters to display if they don't -- you need a font which makes use of the ISO 8859-1 encoding. I'm not sure if you see an IBM code page, where you see incorrect characters, but in the ``extended ASCII'' range, in which case a code page like CP819 would work, or just ASCII equivalents (d, v, and | for umlauted a, o, and u), in which case you need to get an 8-bit path to the display (and possibly an 8859-1 font). Once you get the correct characters to display, you can suppress the notice you quoted above by setting the .pinerc (or /usr/local/lib/pine.conf) charset value to ISO-8859-1. Perhaps another Linux user who has been able to view Latin-1 characters with Pine can outline Linux-specific steps needed. -- Barry Bouwsma, in Ann Arbor Michigan, soon to be back biking eastern Europe Please direct mail to (MIME-aware) Unemployable System Cracker seeking work; food; chocolate; Czech pastries, ice cream, and beer; travel partner; free airline tickets; and lots of money From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 04:41:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17147; Thu, 28 Jul 94 04:41:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29600; Thu, 28 Jul 94 04:30:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from internal.cdc.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29592; Thu, 28 Jul 94 04:29:56 -0700 Received: by cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com (5.61/1.34) id AA05264; Thu, 28 Jul 94 19:28:53 +0800 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 19:28:52 +0800 (TPE) From: Ed Greshko Subject: Re: status of pine 3.90 To: "Wim.Holemans" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Jul28.063622.29384@reks.uia.ac.be> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, Wim.Holemans wrote: > Can anyone comment on the status of pine 3.90 ? I thought it was > announced for the spring. Also any news about a windows version ? Hadn't you heard? The entire "pine team" has been relocated to Australia. :-) :-) The stock answer is "two-weeks"....I'm sure they just have to get the last one or two known bugs out. Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 08:07:39 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20991; Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:07:39 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02386; Thu, 28 Jul 94 07:52:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02380; Thu, 28 Jul 94 07:52:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTWW5-00000AC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 07:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rosena@solix.fiu.edu (Mark J. Rosen) Subject: Suspending pine Message-Id: <315rrv$8a@schema.fiu.edu> Date: 27 Jul 94 14:44:15 GMT When I try to suspend pine with a ^z I get a message like: suspending pine is not enabled, see help text. But I can't seem to find any help on how to enable this basic function. Anyone know how? For that matter, is there a manual on the .pinerc file? Thanks. Mark rosena@solix.fiu.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 08:26:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21683; Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:26:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02805; Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:15:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02799; Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:15:18 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA13762; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 11:21:18 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 11:21:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Mann Subject: Re: Suspending pine To: "Mark J. Rosen" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <315rrv$8a@schema.fiu.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi Mark, All you have to do to find out about command line options should be something like typing pine -- at the command line. I get a whole list of options that way, which is where you will find how to enable ^Z. The switch to do so is -z. So, start pine with pine -z. Then you should be able to suspend it to your hearts content. Good pining. Hope this helps. STeve "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." -RUSH ================================================================== / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | | Home: 722-1632 0 0 | | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | \ This line left blank for no reason / ================================================================= On 27 Jul 1994, Mark J. Rosen wrote: > > When I try to suspend pine with a ^z I get a message like: suspending pine > is not enabled, see help text. But I can't seem to find any help on how > to enable this basic function. Anyone know how? For that matter, is > there a manual on the .pinerc file? Thanks. > > Mark > rosena@solix.fiu.edu > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 08:34:57 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22079; Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:34:57 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02934; Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:21:49 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ftp.celestial.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02928; Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:21:47 -0700 Received: by camco1.celestial.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qTXJH-0003NEC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:23 PDT Message-Id: From: bill@celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? To: tomku@radar.li.icl.se (Tomas Kullman) Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 08:23:51 -0700 (PDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <316dbl$rm@radar.li.icl.se> from "Tomas Kullman" at Jul 27, 94 07:42:45 pm Reply-To: bill@Celestial.COM Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA 98040 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1244 > > In "Open Systems Today", June 20, 1994, page 72 "TCP/IP Packages" > 5th column 3rd paragraph you can read: > > "At one time, IMAP was a serious against POP for the > remote-access E-mail protocol crown, but POP appears to have won, at > least for now." >..... > Is IMAP too complicated to implement? > I don't think that this is the reason for the preponderance of POP based mailers, but that many people need something that minimizes connection times because they're not directly connected to a network. It seems that most of the single-user PC based solutions are aimed at users who use modem connections to get their mail, and who are charged for the connection time. In this case it makes much more sense to grab it and read/respond off-line rather than tie up the line for extended periods of time. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: camco!bill 8545 SE 68th Street FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 When a place gets crowded enough to require ID's, social collapse is not far away. It is time to go elsewhere. The best thing about space travel is that it made it possible to go elsewhere. -- Robert Heinlein From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 09:01:49 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23290; Thu, 28 Jul 94 09:01:49 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03561; Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:49:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03555; Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:49:17 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTXN4-00000HC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 08:27 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jph@panix.com (James P. Huggins) Subject: Re: OffLine Mail reader for PINE??? Date: 27 Jul 1994 17:40:06 -0400 Message-Id: <316k7m$kmj@panix.com> References: <30f3gb$gk9@nic-nac.CSU.net> In pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) writes: >to read mail (not write...) offline, assuming you have a dos sys, use >"readmail". very good program, and couldn't be cheaper... it's freeware... >Offline, with my old xt i use readmail to read and I write with pico >(that cames with the pine.zip. pine won't work as offline, but pico works >anyway). The advantage of readmail is that works even if I download many >folders created with pine. >Pucho Sounds great, but where do I get it? Jim jph@panix.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 09:44:30 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25797; Thu, 28 Jul 94 09:44:30 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22121; Thu, 28 Jul 94 09:32:29 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22109; Thu, 28 Jul 94 09:32:08 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qTYMp-0008lKC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 09:31 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA16920; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 08:41:57 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 08:41:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: <316dbl$rm@radar.li.icl.se> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Jul 1994, Tomas Kullman wrote: > In "Open Systems Today", June 20, 1994, page 72 "TCP/IP Packages" > 5th column 3rd paragraph you can read: > > "At one time, IMAP was a serious against POP for the > remote-access E-mail protocol crown, but POP appears to have won, at > least for now." > I read this too, and was surprised. Especially since almost every guide to the internet talks about using PINE for mail. It seems strange that the PC people can't develop good IMAP clients, or that OST seems to think that IMAP is not popular.... B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 09:50:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25893; Thu, 28 Jul 94 09:50:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22106; Thu, 28 Jul 94 09:31:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from wolfe.wimsey.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22100; Thu, 28 Jul 94 09:31:38 -0700 Received: by wolfe.wimsey.com (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0qTYMm-00052IC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 09:31 PDT Received: by asl3.asl-labs.bc.ca (5.4R3.00/200.1.1.4) id AA16184; Thu, 28 Jul 1994 08:34:01 -0700 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 08:34:01 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian P. Hampson" Subject: Re: Want headers To: Pine Mailing List In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, Dave Zavatson wrote: > : > The command ``H'' will toggle display of short headers, or full > : > headers of mail. If you get an error message, your .pinerc needs to > : > be set to enable this command before it will work. > > : WHERE???? While reading them? > > : B. > > Yes, while reading the message press 'H'. You must also set this > option in your .pinerc > > feature-list=enable-full-header-cmd or > feature-list=old-growth Got it...thanks. B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ |Brian P. Hampson Internet: brian@asl3.wimsey.com | |System Administration, hampson@wimsey.com | |Analytical Service Labs Fidonet : Brian Hampson 1:153/733 | |Vancouver, BC | | | | Specialists in Environmental Chemistry | | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 10:13:44 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26585; Thu, 28 Jul 94 10:13:44 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22707; Thu, 28 Jul 94 10:02:35 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from aaron.music.qc.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22701; Thu, 28 Jul 94 10:02:30 -0700 Received: from igor by aaron.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0M) id AA02541; Thu, 28 Jul 94 12:45:12 -0500 Received: by igor.music.qc.edu (NX5.67e/NX3.0S) id AA03598; Thu, 28 Jul 94 13:01:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 94 13:01:37 -0400 From: David Richards Message-Id: <9407281701.AA03598@igor.music.qc.edu> To: rosena@solix.fiu.edu Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <315rrv$8a@schema.fiu.edu> (rosena@solix.fiu.edu) Subject: Re: Suspending pine >>>>> "Mark" == Mark J Rosen writes: Mark> When I try to suspend pine with a ^z I get a message like: Mark> suspending pine is not enabled, see help text. But I can't Mark> seem to find any help on how to enable this basic function. Mark> Anyone know how? For that matter, is there a manual on the Mark> .pinerc file? Thanks. Hello Mark - There is a data structure that you can set up in your .pinerc file called 'feature-list'. The feature-list is a comma separated list of various config attributes that you can enable. Here's a copy of my feature list that includes enabling ^Z for suspending: feature-list=enable-unix-pipe-cmd, enable-suspend, enable-alternate-editor-cmd, quit-without-confirm, enable-jump-shortcut, enable-goto-cmd, signature-at-bottom It's OK to put each item on a separate line provided: A.) Each line begins with white space (a line beginning with a tab or space is considered a continuation of the previous line). B.) you end each item with a comma. You may not want your list set up like mine but take note of line 2 - This is the item that enables suspend. Good-luck Dave ========================================== David Richards The Aaron Copland School of Music at Queens College E-mail: richards@aaron.music.qc.edu Voice : 1-(718)-997-3874 ========================================== From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 10:34:16 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27353; Thu, 28 Jul 94 10:34:16 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05898; Thu, 28 Jul 94 10:24:12 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05892; Thu, 28 Jul 94 10:24:09 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTYpu-00000NC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 10:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: maja@birdland.rhein-neckar.de (Martin Jangowski) Subject: wrong characterset Message-Id: <1994Jul27.205903.3791@birdland.rhein-neckar.de> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 20:59:03 GMT Hello! >From time to time I receive mail sent with a different charset than the us-ascii my linux uses. Pine acommpanies this with a message like [The following text is in the "ISO-8859-1" character set] [Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set] [Some characters may be displayed incorrectly] Unfortunately I have no idea how to change my character set to ISO-8859-1. Clues, anyone? Martin -- +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Martin Jangowski E-Mail: maja@birdland.rhein-neckar.de | | Voice: +49 621/53 95 06 Martin Jangowski @ LU | | Snail Mail: Koenigsbacher Str. 16 67067 Ludwigshafen Germany | +---------------------------------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 13:52:27 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05446; Thu, 28 Jul 94 13:52:27 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10535; Thu, 28 Jul 94 13:41:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10529; Thu, 28 Jul 94 13:41:05 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTbwF-00000AC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 13:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: peterb@telerama.lm.com (Peter G. Berger) Subject: Screen vs. Pine [pico] Date: 28 Jul 1994 15:30:09 -0400 Message-Id: <319101$2sv@ivory.lm.com> I use the "iScreen" program to make multitasking easier on our workstations. Pine is my mailer of choice. "Screen" lets you cut and past segments of the screen from one virtual terminal into another. This proves problematic when pasting multiple lines into Pico, because pico interprets the unix EOL (^J) as meaning "justify". The only "fixes" to this problem I could find are: 1) make sure there's NO OTHER TEXT within twelve lines of the pasting area, or it will get sucked into pico's justifying vortex, or 2) use the alternate editor (vi). Both alternatives are unsatisfactory. Is there any way to tell pico to simply treat the ^J's as newlines? Thanks in advance! -- ........................................................................ Peter G. Berger, Esq. Telerama Public Access Internet, Pittsburgh Internet: peterb@telerama.lm.com Phone: 412/481-3505 Fax: 412/481-8568 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 14:32:07 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07058; Thu, 28 Jul 94 14:32:07 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11487; Thu, 28 Jul 94 14:23:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11481; Thu, 28 Jul 94 14:23:52 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTccl-00000AC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 14:04 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marilyn@monroe.ocis.temple.edu (Macgician!) Subject: Re: Suspending pine Date: Wed, 27 Jul 1994 11:38:26 -0400 Message-Id: References: <315rrv$8a@schema.fiu.edu> In article <315rrv$8a@schema.fiu.edu>, rosena@solix.fiu.edu (Mark J. Rosen) wrote: + When I try to suspend pine with a ^z I get a message like: suspending pine + is not enabled, see help text. But I can't seem to find any help on how + to enable this basic function. Anyone know how? For that matter, is + there a manual on the .pinerc file? Thanks. Sure you can. Invoke pine with the -z flag/option. % pine -z Then you will see for sure yourself that cntrl-z will work. Infact you can alias pine to pine -z in you .login/cshrc files that way it will be default. -- @|\@@ Marilyn@monroe.temple.edu http://monroe.temple.edu - @@@@ These views are Orders in Pride Land, where no Hyenas live. /7 @@@@ Mophusa: Everything that the light touches is mine. / @@@@@@ Simbha : Everything, hmmm..what about the Dark Side. \-' @@@@@@@@`-________________ -@@@@@@@@@ Lion King / \ _____/ /_ ______/ |_____- /,________/ `-.___/,__________-----_) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 14:50:08 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07751; Thu, 28 Jul 94 14:50:08 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28097; Thu, 28 Jul 94 14:39:08 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28091; Thu, 28 Jul 94 14:39:06 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTcrw-00000XC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 14:20 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rervin@tnt (Rich Ervin) Subject: Re: Some should get mail, most should not Date: 27 Jul 1994 15:19:10 GMT Message-Id: <315tte$bs8@noc1.mid.net> References: <314t8e$otq@news.cerf.net> <314ucj$po4@news.cerf.net> >In article my own posting I wrote: >: The only solution I have come up with so far is to create a file for >: everyone I don't want to recieve mail in the spool dir and make it >: read/write to nobody. That should at least cause sendmail heartburn >: enough to spit the mail back. Sounds a little drastic to me. You could also give all user who should not receive maile a .forward file that either returns it to sender or to you. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 15:12:31 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08501; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:12:31 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12294; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:03:34 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12288; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:03:32 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTdBE-00000DC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 14:39 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar) Subject: Re: Problems compiling 3.89 on SGI Date: 28 Jul 1994 20:17:17 GMT Message-Id: <3193od$3ti@news.udel.edu> References: Karsten Kuenne writes: > > It's easy to fix, you have to declare _tzname in os_sgi.c. > Add the following line at around line 82 in os_sgi.c: > > extern char *_tzname[2]; > > That should do it. > > Karsten. In SGI's Irix-5.2, /usr/include/time.h already declares extern char *tzname[2]; If you change _tzname to tzname in rfc822_date() (in "os_sgi.c"), then everything will compile just fine. Also, there is another bug in os_sgi.c that causes problems with remote imap sessions. Even when you have /etc/rimapd defined on the server, pine will still prompt you for a password. This can be fixed by finding the string (in os_sgi.c) "/usr/ucb/rsh" and changing it to RSHPATH (no quotes). RSHPATH is already defined in the makefile and will be handled by the c-preprocessor. -Randy --- ______________________________________________________________________ / \ | Randy Zagar | Voice: 302/831-1139 | | College of Marine Studies | FAX: 302/831-6838 | | University of Delaware | Internet: zagar@Chester.cms.udel.edu | | Newark, DE 19711 | Compu$erve: 73072,1413 | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | PGP Key available on request, or by 'finger'. | \______________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 15:13:52 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08567; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:13:52 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28519; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:04:53 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA28513; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:04:48 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTdE7-00000IC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 14:42 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rosena@solix.fiu.edu (Mark J. Rosen) Subject: Re: Suspending pine Date: 28 Jul 1994 20:15:33 GMT Message-Id: <3193l5$e8r@schema.fiu.edu> References: <315rrv$8a@schema.fiu.edu> <9407281701.AA03598@igor.music.qc.edu> : Hello Mark - There is a data structure that you can set up in your : .pinerc file called 'feature-list'. The feature-list is a comma : separated list of various config attributes that you can enable. Here's : a copy of my feature list that includes enabling ^Z for suspending: : feature-list=enable-unix-pipe-cmd, : enable-suspend, : enable-alternate-editor-cmd, : quit-without-confirm, : enable-jump-shortcut, : enable-goto-cmd, : signature-at-bottom : It's OK to put each item on a separate line provided: : A.) Each line begins with white space (a line beginning with a tab or space : is considered a continuation of the previous line). : B.) you end each item with a comma. Several people suggested the above. I've tried putting the feature-list=enable stuff in my .pinerc file, but it seems that it doesn't work for some reason. I still have to include the -z parameter in the command line. Also, I tried using your whole feature list, but the signature-at-bottom doesn't automatically append my signature. So it may seem that my .pinerc file isn't even being read, but I know certain parts, like file (folder?) defaults, are working fine. Am I missing something? -- "Keep looking up!" -- Jack Horkheimer, Star Hustler From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 15:34:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09168; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:34:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12841; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:26:02 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12833; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:25:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTdZU-00000IC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar) Subject: Pine 3.89 bug!!! (os_sgi.c) Date: 28 Jul 1994 20:22:55 GMT Message-Id: <31942v$3ti@news.udel.edu> There is a bug in os_sgi.c that causes Pine to prompt for a password even when IMAP is accessed with rsh. In os_sgi.c, find the string "/usr/ucb/rsh" and change it to RSHPATH Don't surround this with quotes, it's not a string but a #defined c-preprocessor thingie. -Randy --- ______________________________________________________________________ / \ | Randy Zagar | Voice: 302/831-1139 | | College of Marine Studies | FAX: 302/831-6838 | | University of Delaware | Internet: zagar@Chester.cms.udel.edu | | Newark, DE 19711 | Compu$erve: 73072,1413 | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | PGP Key available on request, or by 'finger'. | \______________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 15:56:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09964; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:56:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29332; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:49:05 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29324; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:49:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTdz8-00000AC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 15:31 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar) Subject: Pine 3.89 and IRIX-5.2 Date: 28 Jul 1994 20:36:27 GMT Message-Id: <3194sb$3ti@news.udel.edu> Here are the list of changes that I made to get Pine v3.89 to compile under Irix-5.2 os_sgi.c: Critical change!!! In rfc822_date(), change "_tzname" to "tzname". Not-so-Critical change... Locate the string "/usr/ucb/rsh" and change is to RSHPATH Do NOT put this in quotes!!! Now you're ready for prime time. -Randy --- ______________________________________________________________________ / \ | Randy Zagar | Voice: 302/831-1139 | | College of Marine Studies | FAX: 302/831-6838 | | University of Delaware | Internet: zagar@Chester.cms.udel.edu | | Newark, DE 19711 | Compu$erve: 73072,1413 | |----------------------------------------------------------------------| | PGP Key available on request, or by 'finger'. | \______________________________________________________________________/ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 17:23:04 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13781; Thu, 28 Jul 94 17:23:04 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15351; Thu, 28 Jul 94 17:13:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15345; Thu, 28 Jul 94 17:13:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTfJZ-00000AC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 16:56 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mrobinsn@finance.wharton.upenn.edu (Michael S. Robinson) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: 28 Jul 1994 21:22:54 GMT Message-Id: <3197je$ftn@netnews.upenn.edu> References: <316dbl$rm@radar.li.icl.se> : > : > "At one time, IMAP was a serious against POP for the : > remote-access E-mail protocol crown, but POP appears to have won, at : > least for now." : > : I read this too, and was surprised. Especially since almost every guide : to the internet talks about using PINE for mail. It seems strange that : the PC people can't develop good IMAP clients, or that OST seems to think : that IMAP is not popular.... I think the reason you're seeing this is a change in the point of reference. You are correct that every guide to the internet mentions PINE or ELM for mail. However, there is a huge trend towards having central servers with many clients around thme (gee, a LAN maybe?). Anyways, POP has one great advantage for a client/server set-up: It goes out, does what it needs to do, then closes up shop. This cuts down greatly on any unnecessary network traffic. It's also less overhead for the client system. Every little bit helps. Of course, I like IMAP better and wish it would be the reigning champ. But POP provides better functionality for remote PC-based clients. Mike -- +-----------------------------------------------------------+ Mike Robinson mrobinsn@wharton.upenn.edu I want to die peacefully in my sleep, like my grandfather, not screaming in terror, like his passengers. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 18:51:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15540; Thu, 28 Jul 94 18:51:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02610; Thu, 28 Jul 94 18:43:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02604; Thu, 28 Jul 94 18:43:34 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTgiw-00000AC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 18:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rhsiung@kaiwan.com (Richard Hsiung) Subject: Reading in a file Message-Id: <316l8r$9jg@kaiwan.kaiwan.com> Date: 27 Jul 94 21:57:47 GMT Got a slight problem. My home directory is defined like this: /u1/home5/rhsiung However, in my .cshrc file, I change the environment variable home so that my home directory is: /u1/home5/rhsiung/home This is so I could make my directory public. Well, the problem I'm having is this. In Pine, when I save files, it saves into my current 'home' directory. The one that is defined with 'set'. (environment variable) Which is fine. However, when I'm editing a reply or new message, (with Pico I suppose - the one that defaults when Pine is used), and I try to READ IN a file, it always defaults to my actual home directory /u1/home5/rhsiung. HOWEVER, when I use Tin and it pops into Pico (the one defined in my .cshrc file as EDITOR, it works okay and reads from the proper directory. Why is this? I've looked for a config file for pico but could not find one. It doesn't seem to define this in the .pinerc file either . Can someone help me? It would be greatly appreciated. -- Richard Hsiung rhsiung@kaiwan.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 19:44:42 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16463; Thu, 28 Jul 94 19:44:42 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17286; Thu, 28 Jul 94 19:34:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17280; Thu, 28 Jul 94 19:34:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qThU6-00000AC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 19:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: status of pine 3.90 Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 08:30:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: <1994Jul28.063622.29384@reks.uia.ac.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Now Ed, I don't think I ever said _two_ weeks. The stock answer is _a few_ weeks... :-) --DLM |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Thu, 28 Jul 1994, Wim.Holemans wrote: > > > Can anyone comment on the status of pine 3.90 ? I thought it was > > announced for the spring. Also any news about a windows version ? > > Hadn't you heard? The entire "pine team" has been relocated > to Australia. :-) :-) > > The stock answer is "two-weeks"....I'm sure they just have > to get the last one or two known bugs out. > > Ed > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 20:31:48 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17280; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:31:48 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03777; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:18:42 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03771; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:18:39 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTiAY-00000DC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 19:59 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cimage@garnet.msen.com (Cimage) Subject: Re: How do you "Bounce" e-mail Date: 28 Jul 1994 16:05:42 GMT Message-Id: <318l0m$a0o$1@heifetz.msen.com> References: <30o1rs$gp1@crl3.crl.com> <1994Jul22.143627.1648@pshrink.chi.il.us> <312iem$n9d@garlic.com> If your mail host is unix based, you can use a .forward to specify where your mail should be forwarded to. In addition, and again for Unix hosts, there is a program called "vacation" that in addition to setting up your .forward file will set up an auto-reply to the sender to let them know that you are off-site and will be replying to your mail later. See your local man pages for more info. --- Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner simcha@cimage.com From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 20:34:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17345; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:34:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03894; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:25:06 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03886; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:25:04 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTiEj-00000FC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wcalvin@u.washington.edu (William Calvin) Subject: workaround "clipboard" for addressbk-to-text Message-Id: <316j17$gbu@news.u.washington.edu> Date: 27 Jul 94 21:19:35 GMT Often one wants to quote the email address of a third party in the text of a message. This usually involves postponing compose, looking in the addressbook, copying down the email address when found, resuming compose, typing in the email address, etc. Alternative: Use the cc field for the nickname of the 3rd party; the full address will appear. Use ^K to delete it. Move cursor down to text, hit ^U to restore it. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 20:40:54 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17431; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:40:54 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03968; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:29:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03962; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:28:58 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTiK6-00000LC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:09 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dwrsun4!perl@beaver.cs.washington.edu (Robert Perlberg) Subject: Re: Help me use pine for newsgroups!! Message-Id: <4219@dwrsun5.dwrsun4.UUCP> Date: 27 Jul 94 21:09:21 GMT References: <1994Jul15.190451.3317@cs.mun.ca> <30aqbc$ro5@news.ysu.edu> <30eh06$rth@panther.Gsu.EDU> In article <30eh06$rth@panther.Gsu.EDU>, engjcp@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Cheese & Onions) writes: > Barry Bouwsma (ag786@yfn.ysu.edu) wrote: > : To post, you must use methods used by those with read-only access to > : a news server, namely, posting by means of a mail-to-news gateway. > > gateway? which gateway? how does one discover the address(?) of a > gateway? does it matter which one? There are two gateways that I know of. To post an article, sent it via E-mail to: groupname.usenet@decwrl.dec.com or groupname@helios.physics.utoronto.ca where you substitute "groupname" with the name of the newsgroup you want to post to. Robert Perlberg Dean Witter Reynolds Inc., New York dwrsun4!perl@murphy.com -or- perl%dwrsun4@philabs.com -- "I am not a language ... I am a human being!" From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Thu Jul 28 20:42:45 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17503; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:42:45 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03916; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:25:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA03908; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:25:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTiEp-00000IC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 20:03 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: Filtering w/ PINE Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 01:55:58 GMT [ Article crossposted from netcom.internet ] [ Author was Chuck Sigal (cjsigal@netcom.com) ] [ Posted on Thu, 21 Jul 1994 00:11:49 GMT ] [ Please do not replay to pucho@netcom.com] I'm using Pine to read my E-mail and would like to filter certain incoming messages to a particular folder other than IN-COMING. The man pages don't say anything about filters but .pinerc has the following section. # incoming-folders are those other than INBOX that receive new messages. # Folder syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}folder-path # Use only if you filter incoming email into multiple files or receive # email on several different machines. # Example: # incoming-folders=Consulting {carson.u.washington.edu}filter/to-help, # Widget-Project {carson.u.washington.edu}filter/to-widget, # Old-Student-Acct {imap.berkeley.edu}inbox Does this example mean that incoming E-mail with a subject line Consulting would be filtered into the folder help? I'd appreciate any advice. Thanks in advance. -- Variables won't, constants aren't. Osborne's Law Chuck Sigal-------------Albany, CA USA----------voice/fax 510.527.3547 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 00:21:18 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21358; Fri, 29 Jul 94 00:21:18 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06544; Fri, 29 Jul 94 00:09:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06538; Fri, 29 Jul 94 00:09:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTll2-00000AC; Thu, 28 Jul 94 23:49 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pucho@netcom.com (Marcos Rubinstein) Subject: >quote Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 06:15:04 GMT 1.- How can I change the > when quoting somebody? (ie if I like better : or ) ) (that's the quote that pine puts in "replay" copyng the mail) 2.- How can I change the "On ddddd, mmmmm xx, 19nn joe (joex@nn) wrote:" specifically I would like to be able to say the same thing, but in Spanish....)(of course, sometimes would be fun to be able to say anything else) Thanks Shalom Pucho (aka Marcos) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 01:13:52 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA22637; Fri, 29 Jul 94 01:13:52 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21367; Fri, 29 Jul 94 01:04:31 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21361; Fri, 29 Jul 94 01:04:29 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTmfh-000006C; Fri, 29 Jul 94 00:48 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: chrisc@kaiwan.com (Chris Chiu) Subject: PINE with anon service Date: 28 Jul 1994 10:47:12 -0700 Message-Id: How do I use pine to send anonymous mail at anon.penet.fi? I tried to use it, but could not figure out how to add X-Anon-To and X-Anon-Password to the header. Any suggestion? Chris. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 02:24:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24120; Fri, 29 Jul 94 02:24:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08008; Fri, 29 Jul 94 02:06:00 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from helios.herts.ac.uk by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08002; Fri, 29 Jul 94 02:05:56 -0700 Received: from herts.ac.uk by helios.herts.ac.uk with SMTP (PP) id <03791-0@helios.herts.ac.uk>; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 10:03:47 +0100 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 09:50:15 +0100 (BST) From: Colette Monaghan Subject: Re: How do you "Bounce" e-mail To: Cimage Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, j.angel@herts.ac.uk In-Reply-To: <318l0m$a0o$1@heifetz.msen.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was recently asked about this feature and tried it out but unfortunately it won't work on our setup. We use nfs here and so mail comes into a mail server and is exported to the relevant user machine. Do you know of any other method that will work in such a situation? *************************************** Colette Monaghan, User Services, Computer Centre, University of Hertfordshire, Hatfield, Herts., AL10 9AB United Kingdom E-mail c.monaghan@herts.ac.uk ************************************** On 28 Jul 1994, Cimage wrote: > If your mail host is unix based, you can use a .forward to specify where > your mail should be forwarded to. > > In addition, and again for Unix hosts, there is a program called > "vacation" that in addition to setting up your .forward file will set up > an auto-reply to the sender to let them know that you are off-site and > will be replying to your mail later. > > See your local man pages for more info. > > --- > Simcha-Yitzchak Lerner > simcha@cimage.com > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 06:00:31 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29330; Fri, 29 Jul 94 06:00:31 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10925; Fri, 29 Jul 94 05:50:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA10919; Fri, 29 Jul 94 05:50:41 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTr7n-000006C; Fri, 29 Jul 94 05:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: alee@superior.ccs.carleton.ca (Annette Lee) Subject: scrolling history in pine - help Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 12:14:18 GMT Hi, I'm having a problem with pine. When my messages print, each screen prints over the others. This means that I cannot scroll back up to read the beginning of the message. This only happens when it prints messages. I can't find any way to make it stop doing this (I've checked the options but nothing seems to help). Is there a way, or will I have to use elm forever? Annette Lee From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 07:06:06 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00496; Fri, 29 Jul 94 07:06:06 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25880; Fri, 29 Jul 94 06:56:14 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from hp877i.rdec.redstone.army.mil by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25868; Fri, 29 Jul 94 06:55:54 -0700 Received: by hp877i.rdec.redstone.army.mil (1.38.193.5/16.2) id AA20574; Fri, 29 Jul 1994 08:54:39 -0500 Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 08:54:39 -0500 (CDT) From: Robert Buck Subject: uuencode/uudecode To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to send/view uuencoded messages with pine? I administer an HP-UX machine, and my users aren't the most Unix literate yet, so hopefully there is a simple way. Thanks, Robert Buck From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 08:30:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02924; Fri, 29 Jul 94 08:30:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27317; Fri, 29 Jul 94 08:21:47 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA27309; Fri, 29 Jul 94 08:21:45 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTtCp-000006C; Fri, 29 Jul 94 07:46 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jph@panix.com (James P. Huggins) Subject: cmsg cancel <319bu8$qmp@panix.com> Control: cancel <319bu8$qmp@panix.com> Date: 28 Jul 1994 18:55:18 -0400 Message-Id: <319d0n$1c0@panix.com> cancel <319bu8$qmp@panix.com> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine This article was cancelled from within NN version 6.5.0 (NOV) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 10:00:19 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06932; Fri, 29 Jul 94 10:00:19 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29287; Fri, 29 Jul 94 09:53:01 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29281; Fri, 29 Jul 94 09:52:59 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTurJ-000006C; Fri, 29 Jul 94 09:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwitt@orion.it.luc.edu (Jonathan L. Witt) Subject: Compiled Pine for VMS? Date: 27 Jul 1994 15:59:28 GMT Message-Id: <316090$jh1@apollo.it.luc.edu> I wondered if there is a version of Pine & Pico compiled for VMS available via FTP anywhere. I believe I tried a site in Israel, but that version had to be compiled, something I can't, at present, do on my system do to lack of software. Any help would be appreciated. jon witt. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 11:24:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09850; Fri, 29 Jul 94 11:24:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01163; Fri, 29 Jul 94 11:15:40 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01157; Fri, 29 Jul 94 11:15:38 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTw9f-00000HC; Fri, 29 Jul 94 10:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: >quote Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 08:32:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Neither is currently settable... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 29 Jul 1994, Marcos Rubinstein wrote: > > 1.- How can I change the > when quoting somebody? (ie if I like better : > or ) ) (that's the quote that pine puts in "replay" copyng the mail) > 2.- How can I change the "On ddddd, mmmmm xx, 19nn joe (joex@nn) wrote:" > specifically I would like to be able to say the same thing, but > in Spanish....)(of course, sometimes would be fun to be able to say > anything else) > > Thanks > Shalom > Pucho (aka Marcos) > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 11:27:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09935; Fri, 29 Jul 94 11:27:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17207; Fri, 29 Jul 94 11:20:43 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17201; Fri, 29 Jul 94 11:20:40 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTwFo-00000AC; Fri, 29 Jul 94 11:01 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Filtering w/ PINE Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 22:00:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Hmmm... That's a new mis-interpretation of the .pinerc comments ;) No, Pine does not do delivery filtering. You need an external filter program to accomplish that. Someone at netcom should be able to tell you what is available there and how to use it... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Fri, 29 Jul 1994, Marcos Rubinstein wrote: > [ Article crossposted from netcom.internet ] > [ Author was Chuck Sigal (cjsigal@netcom.com) ] > [ Posted on Thu, 21 Jul 1994 00:11:49 GMT ] > [ Please do not replay to pucho@netcom.com] > > I'm using Pine to read my E-mail and would like to filter certain > incoming messages to a particular folder other than IN-COMING. > > The man pages don't say anything about filters but .pinerc has the following > section. > > # incoming-folders are those other than INBOX that receive new messages. > # Folder syntax: optnl-label {optnl-imap-hostname}folder-path > # Use only if you filter incoming email into multiple files or receive > # email on several different machines. > # Example: > # incoming-folders=Consulting {carson.u.washington.edu}filter/to-help, > # Widget-Project {carson.u.washington.edu}filter/to-widget, > # Old-Student-Acct {imap.berkeley.edu}inbox > > Does this example mean that incoming E-mail with a subject line > Consulting would be filtered into the folder help? > > > I'd appreciate any advice. > > Thanks in advance. > > > -- > > Variables won't, constants aren't. Osborne's Law > > Chuck Sigal-------------Albany, CA USA----------voice/fax 510.527.3547 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 13:08:49 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13664; Fri, 29 Jul 94 13:08:49 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19249; Fri, 29 Jul 94 13:00:55 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19243; Fri, 29 Jul 94 13:00:53 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTxZb-00000AC; Fri, 29 Jul 94 12:26 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ribarbe@garlic.com (Richard Barber) Subject: Re: PINE with anon service Date: 29 Jul 1994 03:24:17 -0700 Message-Id: <31alch$avl@garlic.com> References: Chris Chiu (chrisc@kaiwan.com) wrote: : How do I use pine to send anonymous mail at anon.penet.fi? I tried to : use it, but could not figure out how to add X-Anon-To and : X-Anon-Password to the header. Any suggestion? It works if you put them in the first line of body text. -rick -- --- Geek v2.1: GAT d--- H->+ s+ g+6 au0 !a w+++(---) v(---)>* C++++ US+++(++++) !P 3+ L+ E---- N++ K+>+++++ W--- M+$ V- po--- Y++(+) t j--IRC G++ b+++ B- e* u---* h!>++@ f* r++ n+ y-**$ Finger for thee PGP publik kee. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 14:58:46 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA17578; Fri, 29 Jul 94 14:58:46 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21890; Fri, 29 Jul 94 14:51:03 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21875; Fri, 29 Jul 94 14:51:01 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qTzHm-00000AC; Fri, 29 Jul 94 14:16 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gmortens@newstand.syr.edu (Gerald E Mortensen) Subject: mailing list digests? Date: 29 Jul 1994 13:50:30 GMT Message-Id: <31b1f6$bal@newstand.syr.edu> i recently subscribed to a mailing list that sends me periodic "digests" of many messages... is there a way to turn a digest into a folder? (using or pine or any other way?) thanks jay -- ** Gerald E. Mortensen (Jay) Syracuse Research Corp. *** ** Research Engineer Merrill Lane *** ** (315)426-3269 -- jay@syrres.com Syracuse, NY 13210 *** From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 17:59:41 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23470; Fri, 29 Jul 94 17:59:41 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09173; Fri, 29 Jul 94 17:51:28 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09167; Fri, 29 Jul 94 17:51:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qU2MS-000006C; Fri, 29 Jul 94 17:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Law Mow-man) Subject: Unparsable Date ???!!! Date: 29 Jul 1994 03:20:41 GMT Message-Id: <319si9$vs3@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Dear Folks, I have installed Pine 3.89 in our HP 735/99 running HPUX9.03. I found it the warning message " Unparsable date" always bounces on the screen. It interrupt me and I can hardly key in any command. How can I correct it ? It is just killing me. Appreciate if you can email me with a solution. -- Morris Law Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 18:15:50 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23780; Fri, 29 Jul 94 18:15:50 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25448; Fri, 29 Jul 94 18:06:37 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25432; Fri, 29 Jul 94 18:06:27 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qU2dw-00000AC; Fri, 29 Jul 94 17:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hank@r2w6.pub.utk.edu (Hank Pike) Subject: Kids in the hall .WAV file Message-Id: <1994Jul29.200045.20542@martha.utcc.utk.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 20:00:45 GMT Here is a .WAV file from the Kids in the hall Show, I have more I will post later. begin 600 /u09/hank/wavs/crush.wav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Ed From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 20:51:45 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26606; Fri, 29 Jul 94 20:51:45 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11376; Fri, 29 Jul 94 20:47:16 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11369; Fri, 29 Jul 94 20:47:14 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qU56C-000006C; Fri, 29 Jul 94 20:28 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morris@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Law Mow-man) Subject: System Aliases in Pine Date: 29 Jul 1994 04:13:00 GMT Message-Id: <319vkc$1emb@ctsc.hkbc.hk> Dear Folks, I am a newcomer to use pine. Before, I use elm and find it useful and comfortable except it use the awful editor vi. In our original system, we have some system aliases that can be use by every user. However, I don't know how to make use of the original system aliases and work with pine. I just know pine has a function to incorporate a system-wide address called bugs-nick-name into the .addressbook for every users. Can I use the same idea to include the original system aliases there. Regards, -- Morris Law Technician / Demonstrator Address : 224 Waterloo Road, KLN, Hong Kong Department of Mathematics Tel : (852) 3397026 Fax : (852) 3388014 Hong Kong Baptist College Email : morris@math.hkbc.hk ========================================================================= From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 23:23:24 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29325; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:23:24 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29193; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:17:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29187; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:17:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qU7Uf-00000FC; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:02 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: douga@eskimo.com (Doug Andersen) Subject: Missing Headers Message-Id: Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 22:35:27 GMT I recently started getting messages from one specific person that are missing headers. I've gotten dozens of emails from her with no problem, and all of the sudden her messages are missing the from:, subject: and path: headers. Usually the messages only has a date and to: line. We both use Pine, and I haven't had problems with anyone else. She has mailed herself letters and they look just fine. Any ideas what this could be? -- Doug Andersen douga@eskimo.com "There's never enough time to do all the nothing you want." - Bill Watterson From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 23:29:53 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29411; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:29:53 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29272; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:23:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29266; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:23:31 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qU7Xy-00000HC; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:05 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hank@UTKUX1.UTK.EDU (Hank Pike) Subject: Re: Kids in the hall .WAV file In-Reply-To: hank@r2w6.pub.utk.edu's message of Fri, 29 Jul 1994 20: 00:45 GMT Message-Id: References: <1994Jul29.200045.20542@martha.utcc.utk.edu> Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 21:30:49 GMT Sorry, I do not know how I managed to post this, it should have gone to another group (obviously). hp -- __ Hank Pike Remote Supervisor, UT Computing Center hank@utkux.utcc.utk.edu hank@utkvx.utk.edu From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 23:49:21 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29824; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:49:21 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29557; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:42:26 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29551; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:42:23 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qU7rW-000006C; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:25 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pjh@pjh.jvnc.net (Pete Holsberg) Subject: Pine without Sendmail??? Message-Id: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 00:18:33 GMT Is it possible to build and install pine on a system that doesn't have sendmail??? ------------------------------------------------------------------ Pete Holsberg The House On *This* Side Of U.S. 1 44 Lopatcong Drive pjh@mccc.edu Ewing, NJ 08638 pjh@pjh.jvnc.net FAX: 609-586-2318 ------------------------------------------------------------------ **** Trenton Computer Festival **** April 22-23, 1995 **** ------------------------------------------------------------------ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Fri Jul 29 23:56:35 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00149; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:56:35 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13570; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:52:15 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13564; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:52:13 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qU7yG-00000AC; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:32 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com (Jason Haar) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? Date: 29 Jul 1994 10:32:28 GMT Message-Id: <31alrs$kad@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> References: <316dbl$rm@radar.li.icl.se> <3197je$ftn@netnews.upenn.edu> Michael S. Robinson (mrobinsn@finance.wharton.upenn.edu) wrote: : I think the reason you're seeing this is a change in the point of reference. : You are correct that every guide to the internet mentions PINE or ELM for : mail. However, there is a huge trend towards having central servers : with many clients around thme (gee, a LAN maybe?). Anyways, POP has one : great advantage for a client/server set-up: It goes out, does what it needs : to do, then closes up shop. This cuts down greatly on any unnecessary network : traffic. It's also less overhead for the client system. Every little bit helps. ?? Are you saying that IMAP can't do that? As far as I remember - IMAP could be used as a complete POP replacement - you could GET all messages onto your local system and then DELETE them off the server - Ta Da!! IMAP of course offers so much more - how does POP handle users who use a different PC/Mac from day-to-day? (they'd end up with bits of their mail spread of several systems). Keeping all folders on the server AS AN OPTION gets rid of that problem. We have people who travel from site to site regularly, using different equipment for their mail reading, so POP is no good for them - IMAP would work a champ (if commercial mailers supported it :-} ). -- Cheers, Jason +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ | Jason Haar, European SysAdmin Phone: + 44 (256) 790111 | | Motorola Cellular Subscriber Fax: + 44 (256) 790519 | | Basingstoke, Hampshire | | RG24 0GY, ENGLAND Internet: jasonh@chineham.euro.csg.mot.com | +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+ From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 00:21:37 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00741; Sat, 30 Jul 94 00:21:37 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13806; Sat, 30 Jul 94 00:12:21 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13794; Sat, 30 Jul 94 00:12:19 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qU8Kn-000006C; Fri, 29 Jul 94 23:55 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine without Sendmail??? Date: Fri, 29 Jul 1994 22:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Sure, as long as you have an SMTP server available. Set the smtp-server variable in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf and you should be OK. As a backup, you might create a sendmail script that returns an error message in case someone tries to over-ride the smtp-server setting... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sat, 30 Jul 1994, Pete Holsberg wrote: > Is it possible to build and install pine on a system that doesn't have > sendmail??? > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Pete Holsberg The House On *This* Side Of U.S. 1 > 44 Lopatcong Drive pjh@mccc.edu > Ewing, NJ 08638 pjh@pjh.jvnc.net > FAX: 609-586-2318 > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > **** Trenton Computer Festival **** April 22-23, 1995 **** > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 00:39:09 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA01120; Sat, 30 Jul 94 00:39:09 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00305; Sat, 30 Jul 94 00:32:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00299; Sat, 30 Jul 94 00:32:22 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qU8bm-000006C; Sat, 30 Jul 94 00:13 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Liu@u.washington.edu (Herng Liu) Subject: HELP! forwarding e-mail PROBLEM Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 00:05:26 +0100 Message-Id: Hi, I have a departmental Vax e-mail account. It was set up such that any e-mail addressed to that Vax account will be forwarded to another University Unix account running Pine. It was working flawlessly. However, suddenly it does not work anymore. My friend tried to send e-mail to my Vax account and I did NOT receive it at all in either my Vax or my Unix account. It did NOT bounce back to my friend's account either. What could it go wrong? ANY advice would be appreciated. -- Herng Liu Department of Chemical Engineering, BF-10 University of Washington Seattle, WA 98195 (206) 695-3036 (voice) (206) 543-3667 (fax) From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 01:12:48 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA02372; Sat, 30 Jul 94 01:12:48 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14439; Sat, 30 Jul 94 01:02:36 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from digi.syd.deg.CSIRO.AU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA14429; Sat, 30 Jul 94 01:02:29 -0700 Received: by digi.syd.deg.csiro.au id AA26600 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu); Sat, 30 Jul 1994 18:05:34 +1000 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 17:45:17 +1000 (EST) From: Jack Churchill Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? To: Jason Haar Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <31alrs$kad@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 29 Jul 1994, Jason Haar wrote: > IMAP of course offers so much more - how does POP handle users who use a > different PC/Mac from day-to-day? (they'd end up with bits of their mail > spread of several systems). Keeping all folders on the server AS AN > OPTION gets rid of that problem. We have people who travel from site to > site regularly, using different equipment for their mail reading, so POP > is no good for them - IMAP would work a champ (if commercial mailers > supported it :-} ). I used to think this way too. However, the trend these days is to force users to perform their own housekeeping and thus relieve the pressure on the central server. Consequently, the difference between IMAP and POP becomes irrelevant. However, I do have some users who like to read their mail from different platforms as you described. IMAP would be better in this case but what if such people only do it very occasionally? Also, what if existing users who get all their mail moved to their desktop suddenly decide to use another for only a short time? This is regardless of whether they use POP or IMAP since both can move all mail as you mentioned. Both also can leave mail on the server (POP relies on the mail client to do it though). So, the debate is not really which is better, POP or IMAP. The real question is how to solve the occasional mobile user without forcing everyone's mail to stay on the central server? If there is no way then once must use the central server approach (with huge disks to hold multi-media attachments, etc.). -- Jack N. Churchill | Jack.Churchill@dem.csiro.au CSIRO Division of Exploration and Mining | PO Box 136 North Ryde NSW 2113 | Phone: +61 2 887 8884 Australia | Fax: +61 2 887 8921 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 09:17:38 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA11014; Sat, 30 Jul 94 09:17:38 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20053; Sat, 30 Jul 94 09:02:46 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20047; Sat, 30 Jul 94 09:02:42 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25305; Sat, 30 Jul 94 09:02:36 -0700 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 09:02:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Jack Churchill Cc: Jason Haar , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Jack, I actually disagree that "the trend these days" is toward POP's fetch-and-delete model in order to keep mail off of a central server. For a growing number of folks, the "value-added" requirement for access from multiple computers makes POP a showstopper. (And of course as was mentioned, IMAP can do "fetch-and-delete" as well.) But your response to Jason also implies something that I believe is a common misconception, namely that IMAP == Central. There are two distinct issues here: 1. At what level of an organization should mail data be stored? Possible answers include: central/organization-wide, departmental, workgroup, or desktop. 2. Once you decide *where* the mail data lives, you must decide which protocol to use to access it. Possible answers include: POP, IMAP, NFS, SMB, AFS, AFP, etc. Within its design center, IMAP offers technical advantages over all the others. In comparison to POP, I'll just mention the following: o Access to a mail store from multiple computers. o Ability to selectively fetch individual MIME body parts. o Ability to access multiple remote folders, not just INBOX. o Ability to support disconnected operation. For us, access from multiple computers is sufficient reason to favor IMAP, as a large and growing part of our population wants access to the same inbox from their office desktop, their machine at home, their laptop while in a hotel, and sometimes from their lab computer. For people who connect via low-speed lines, the ability to see the 2KB text part of a message and ignore the 2MB core dump or image file attached to it is a *big* deal. And the support for disconnected operation built into the IMAP4 spec seems to be what has attracted several major computer vendors to IMAP. (And no, I can't pre-announce any products for them.) So I don't think that the question is how to support the occassional mobile user. For us, that's just about everyone. The questions are: whether to provide a central value-added service that has superior functionality, or moving the mail-server function closer to the user, but still using IMAP to get at it from other machines. By the way, there is no technical reason why you can't run IMAP and POP daemons on the same server, so that both constituencies can be happy. We don't run POP centrally because that implies Client Services must support yet another family of user agents, but that's not a technical issue... Obviously any central mail service must worry about disk usage. On campus-wide machines, we use quotas. On departmental IMAP servers, we don't bother. Baylor and other sites expire mail on the central server after a certain length of time. MUA design can influence this as well. Pine has an option to move mail you've already read from your inbox to a folder on your own disk, for example. So I think the tools exist to offer a full-function (IMAP) mail service without losing your shirt on disk costs. -teg On Sat, 30 Jul 1994, Jack Churchill wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jul 1994, Jason Haar wrote: > > > IMAP of course offers so much more - how does POP handle users who use a > > different PC/Mac from day-to-day? (they'd end up with bits of their mail > > spread of several systems). Keeping all folders on the server AS AN > > OPTION gets rid of that problem. We have people who travel from site to > > site regularly, using different equipment for their mail reading, so POP > > is no good for them - IMAP would work a champ (if commercial mailers > > supported it :-} ). > > I used to think this way too. However, the trend these days is to force > users to perform their own housekeeping and thus relieve the pressure on > the central server. Consequently, the difference between IMAP and POP > becomes irrelevant. However, I do have some users who like to read their > mail from different platforms as you described. IMAP would be better in > this case but what if such people only do it very occasionally? Also, > what if existing users who get all their mail moved to their desktop > suddenly decide to use another for only a short time? This is regardless > of whether they use POP or IMAP since both can move all mail as you > mentioned. Both also can leave mail on the server (POP relies on the mail > client to do it though). So, the debate is not really which is better, > POP or IMAP. The real question is how to solve the occasional mobile user > without forcing everyone's mail to stay on the central server? If there > is no way then once must use the central server approach (with huge disks > to hold multi-media attachments, etc.). > > -- > Jack N. Churchill | Jack.Churchill@dem.csiro.au > CSIRO Division of Exploration and Mining | > PO Box 136 North Ryde NSW 2113 | Phone: +61 2 887 8884 > Australia | Fax: +61 2 887 8921 > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 11:09:10 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12747; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:09:10 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07818; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:01:33 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ULTRIX.UOR.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07812; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:01:31 -0700 Received: by ultrix.uor.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA15157; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:03:16 -0700 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 11:03:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Sharon X Deng Subject: To: Pine Info Group Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII unsubscribe me From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 11:13:23 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA12867; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:13:23 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21454; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:06:38 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21448; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:06:36 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUIZ5-000006C; Sat, 30 Jul 94 10:51 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: egin@unixg.ubc.ca (Edmund Gin) Subject: Re: PINE with anon service Date: 30 Jul 1994 17:46:59 GMT Message-Id: <31e3mj$9a2@nnrp.ucs.ubc.ca> References: <31alch$avl@garlic.com> In article <31alch$avl@garlic.com>, Richard Barber wrote: >It works if you put them in the first line of body text. >-rick Hmmm...that's real strange, since I have done that before, and it doesn't seem to x-post at all... *shrug*...perhaps it's just me... :P Cheers, Ed -- Edmund Gin, egin@unixg.ubc.ca "In life, it matters not what you have received; What really matters is what you have done." --Wong Ka Kui, 1962-1993 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 11:28:57 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13077; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:28:57 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08072; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:21:25 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: <@SIVM.SI.EDU:stoneji@scan.si.edu> Received: from SIVM.SI.EDU by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA08066; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:21:21 -0700 Received: from scan.si.edu by SIVM.SI.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 30 Jul 94 14:20:14 EDT Received: by scan.si.edu (5.61/1.35) id AA22340; Sat, 30 Jul 94 14:18:20 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 14:18:19 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Stone Subject: Expiring old mail (was: Re: IMAP is a failure?) To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 30 Jul 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Obviously any central mail service must worry about disk usage. On > campus-wide machines, we use quotas. On departmental IMAP servers, we > don't bother. Baylor and other sites expire mail on the central server > after a certain length of time. MUA design can influence this as well. > Pine has an option to move mail you've already read from your inbox to a > folder on your own disk, for example. So I think the tools exist to offer > a full-function (IMAP) mail service without losing your shirt on disk > costs. Expiring old mail is an issue that I have been wondering about for some time. We have only been using mail on my server for a few months, so large volumes of unread mail have not yet become an issue, but there are a number of very inactive accounts here that could accumulate significant numbers of unread messages as time goes by. What kinds of programs are available that would perform automated deletion of old mail from Unix mail inboxes? Respond privately or on the list if you feel it would be useful. Thanks! jim -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- "as long as the music's loud enough, ::::: Jim Stone we won't hear the world falling apart." ::::: Smithsonian Institution -derek jarman, "jubilee" ::::: stoneji@scan.si.edu -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 11:36:22 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13194; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:36:22 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21671; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:28:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shivafs.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA21665; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:28:29 -0700 Received: from ester.dsv.su.se by shivafs.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13449; Sat, 30 Jul 94 11:28:26 -0700 X400-Received: by /PRMD=SUNET/ADMD=_/C=SE/; Relayed; 30 Jul 94 20:13:23+0200 Date: 30 Jul 94 20:13:23+0200 From: Sharon Deng Message-Id: <776586*@su-kom.dsv.su.se> To: "Pine mailer discussions group (pine-infoEcac.washington.edu)" , Pine Info Group From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 14:39:54 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA15975; Sat, 30 Jul 94 14:39:54 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23819; Sat, 30 Jul 94 14:33:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23813; Sat, 30 Jul 94 14:33:18 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qULl2-00000DC; Sat, 30 Jul 94 14:15 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: helen@pulua.hcc.hawaii.edu (Helen Rapozo) Subject: Re: HELP! forwarding e-mail PROBLEM Message-Id: References: Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 20:53:53 GMT In article Liu@u.washington.edu (Herng Liu) writes: >Hi, >I have a departmental Vax e-mail account. It was set up such that any >e-mail addressed to that Vax account will be forwarded to another >University Unix account running Pine. It was working flawlessly. >However, suddenly it does not work anymore. My friend tried to send >e-mail to my Vax account and I did NOT receive it at all in either my Vax >or my Unix account. It did NOT bounce back to my friend's account >either. What could it go wrong? ANY advice would be appreciated. > >-- ************ Well checking your VAX account would be a start. Is this VAX running any special email package like PMDF? It would seem that the forwaring information on your VAX account seems to be lost. Without knowing how this VAX is set up it would be hard to give some good advice. Honolulu Community College Some cats think I'm dumb, 874 Dillingham Blvd. some mice think I'm mean, Honolulu, HI 96817 and some fleas think I'm sweet, Ph#: (808) 845-9202 but I'm somewhere in between. FAX: (808) 845-9173 cs_rapozo@hccadb.hcc.hawaii.edu from "I'm Cartoon Hound" on the helen@pulua.hcc.hawaii.edu Cartoon Network. From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 18:23:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA19259; Sat, 30 Jul 94 18:23:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26168; Sat, 30 Jul 94 18:17:24 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA26162; Sat, 30 Jul 94 18:17:21 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUPGm-00000DC; Sat, 30 Jul 94 18:00 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jspears@weston.com (Wes Spears) Subject: Need Binary for AIX3.2.4 Message-Id: <1994Jul28.155643.1244@weston.com> Date: Thu, 28 Jul 1994 15:56:43 GMT I have downloaded two binaries of Pine for AIX 3.2. Both give the same results and lock up terminals everywhere. We do not have a compiler, but if someone could send me a message letting me know that they are willing to help get me a compiled version for 3.2.4, I would be most appreciative. THanks Wes -- Wes Spears <-------> jspears@weston.com (NeXTMail Welcome) The Weston Group (UUCP and SENDMAIL Consultation) 8524 Highway 6 North, 162, Houston, TX 77095 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 20:17:56 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20850; Sat, 30 Jul 94 20:17:56 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13939; Sat, 30 Jul 94 20:09:20 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ultrix.ramapo.edu by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13927; Sat, 30 Jul 94 20:09:10 -0700 Received: by ultrix (5.65/Ultrix3.0-C) id AA11170; Sat, 30 Jul 1994 23:15:17 -0400 Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 23:15:17 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Mann Subject: Re: Expiring old mail (was: Re: IMAP is a failure?) To: Jim Stone Cc: Terry Gray , pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, In reponse to your message about mail being deleted, there is a program called mailclean that comes with something called mailsize that will do the trick for you. I am sorry to say that I do not remember where I got it from, but Archie should be kind enough to let you in on the secret. I just installed it on our system and all seems to be going well. Hope this helps. Steve "If you choose not to decide, you'll still have made a choice..." -RUSH ================================================================== / Steve M Insignificant message goes here \ | CCIS: 529-7500 x7922 \|||/ | | Home: 722-1632 0 0 | | Beeper: 1-800-502-2775 or 201-909-1575 oo0 ^ 0oo | | Email: smann@ultrix.ramapo.edu ~~~~~~~~~ | \ This line left blank for no reason / ================================================================= On Sat, 30 Jul 1994, Jim Stone wrote: > On Sat, 30 Jul 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Obviously any central mail service must worry about disk usage. On > > campus-wide machines, we use quotas. On departmental IMAP servers, we > > don't bother. Baylor and other sites expire mail on the central server > > after a certain length of time. MUA design can influence this as well. > > Pine has an option to move mail you've already read from your inbox to a > > folder on your own disk, for example. So I think the tools exist to offer > > a full-function (IMAP) mail service without losing your shirt on disk > > costs. > > Expiring old mail is an issue that I have been wondering about for some > time. We have only been using mail on my server for a few months, so > large volumes of unread mail have not yet become an issue, but there are a > number of very inactive accounts here that could accumulate significant > numbers of unread messages as time goes by. What kinds of programs are > available that would perform automated deletion of old mail from Unix mail > inboxes? > > Respond privately or on the list if you feel it would be useful. Thanks! > > jim > -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- > "as long as the music's loud enough, ::::: Jim Stone > we won't hear the world falling apart." ::::: Smithsonian Institution > -derek jarman, "jubilee" ::::: stoneji@scan.si.edu > -------------------------------------------:::::--------------------------- > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 20:18:07 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20873; Sat, 30 Jul 94 20:18:07 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13986; Sat, 30 Jul 94 20:11:48 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from sit.dffl.gate.net by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA13980; Sat, 30 Jul 94 20:11:45 -0700 From: infohog@infoark.com Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 23:12:26 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Problem receiving MIME mail from Lotus Notes To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was able to successfully send mail with attachments from PINE to a mail gateway for final delivery to Lotus Notes. When it arrived Lotus Notes correctly had attachments which I was able to detach into seperate files. When I tried to do the same thing from Lotus Notes (send mail with attachments) to be received by PINE I am not able to view the attachments. PINE indicates that there are attachments, but when I press V to view the attachments it responds with a prompt to "Enter attachment number to view or save ( - ec) :" which doesn't appear to be properly handling the viewing or saving of attachments. I sent a blank note from Lotus Notes (from a different location) to myself and it had more than one attachment. When I try to enter a 1 at the above prompt to view the first attachment it responds with a message "No such attachment number "1". Must be in displayed list". It seems that perhaps we've run across a bug here. I am running PINE 3.89 under Novell's Unixware 1.1.1. All other features in PINE appear to be functioning properly. It's actually quite a nice non-GUI mail reader, and I have been very satisfied with it so far. I have a copy of the note which is causing the problem. If someone wants to take a look at it let me know, I will forward it to them. If anyone else has any ideas or knows of any problems in this area please respond. Joe Cossette From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sat Jul 30 23:43:53 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA23762; Sat, 30 Jul 94 23:43:53 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29555; Sat, 30 Jul 94 23:36:18 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from digi.syd.deg.CSIRO.AU by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA29549; Sat, 30 Jul 94 23:36:13 -0700 Received: by digi.syd.deg.csiro.au id AA19274 (5.67b/IDA-1.5); Sun, 31 Jul 1994 16:39:29 +1000 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 15:51:39 +1000 (EST) From: Jack Churchill Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? To: Terry Gray Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 30 Jul 1994, Terry Gray wrote: > Jack, > I actually disagree that "the trend these days" is toward POP's > fetch-and-delete model in order to keep mail off of a central server. For > a growing number of folks, the "value-added" requirement for access from > multiple computers makes POP a showstopper. (And of course as was > mentioned, IMAP can do "fetch-and-delete" as well.) > But your response to Jason also implies something that I believe is a common > misconception, namely that IMAP == Central. No, if you can read English you would have noticed I've said POP doesn't stand in the way for some sites to leave the mail on the server (e.g., Eudora is a POP mail client that has the option to leave mail on the server). I'll admit they do it differently and IMAP is more sophisticated to the extent that the folders are left on the server. I get around this problem with Eudora by using disk sharing with a workgroup PC or the unix server itself. I know this increases network traffic but our mail traffic is the least of our problems. > There are two distinct issues here: > > 1. At what level of an organization should mail data be stored? > Possible answers include: central/organization-wide, departmental, > workgroup, or desktop. > > 2. Once you decide *where* the mail data lives, you must decide which > protocol to use to access it. Possible answers include: POP, IMAP, > NFS, SMB, AFS, AFP, etc. > Obviously your and my priorities are different. My preference is to make the users happy with the most suitable mail client I can find for our environment with the method of mail transfer and storage a second priority. I run both IMAP and POP. One of the reasons I installed IMAP was to test the PC version of pine. I eventually gave up on it and used commercial PCEduora since it was far better, supported uuencode, binhex and MIME, handled attachments much better, etc. Yet is uses the POP method and haven't regretted using it ever since despite the limitations for mobile users. Having said that, I've always believed IMAP is the way to go and I'm happy to see it used by all mailers. I'll be glad if Eudora gave the option to use IMAP. That way I can stop using disk sharing for some users which currently puts their folders back onto a server anyway. -- Jack N. Churchill | Jack.Churchill@dem.csiro.au CSIRO Division of Exploration and Mining | PO Box 136 North Ryde NSW 2113 | Phone: +61 2 887 8884 Australia | Fax: +61 2 887 8921 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 31 00:05:59 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA24232; Sun, 31 Jul 94 00:05:59 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16404; Sat, 30 Jul 94 23:57:45 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA16398; Sat, 30 Jul 94 23:57:43 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUUa8-00000DC; Sat, 30 Jul 94 23:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Problem receiving MIME mail from Lotus Notes Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 23:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: If you send a copy of the offending note to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu as a Pine attachment, we'll take a look to see if we can help... |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, JE-20 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA On Sun, 31 Jul 1994 infohog@infoark.com wrote: > > I was able to successfully send mail with attachments from PINE to a mail > gateway for final delivery to Lotus Notes. When it arrived Lotus Notes > correctly had attachments which I was able to detach into seperate files. > > When I tried to do the same thing from Lotus Notes (send mail with > attachments) to be received by PINE I am not able to view the > attachments. PINE indicates that there are attachments, but when I press > V to view the attachments it responds with a prompt to "Enter attachment > number to view or save ( - ec) :" which doesn't appear to be properly > handling the viewing or saving of attachments. > > I sent a blank note from Lotus Notes (from a different location) to > myself and it had more than one attachment. When I try to enter a 1 at > the above prompt to view the first attachment it responds with a message > "No such attachment number "1". Must be in displayed list". > > It seems that perhaps we've run across a bug here. I am running PINE 3.89 > under Novell's Unixware 1.1.1. All other features in PINE appear to be > functioning properly. It's actually quite a nice non-GUI mail reader, and > I have been very satisfied with it so far. > > I have a copy of the note which is causing the problem. If someone wants > to take a look at it let me know, I will forward it to them. > > If anyone else has any ideas or knows of any problems in this area please > respond. > > > Joe Cossette > > From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 31 05:33:22 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA00970; Sun, 31 Jul 94 05:33:22 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20306; Sun, 31 Jul 94 05:24:30 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20300; Sun, 31 Jul 94 05:24:26 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUZH4-000006C; Sun, 31 Jul 94 04:41 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mcastle@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Michael Castle) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? References: <316dbl$rm@radar.li.icl.se> <3197je$ftn@netnews.upenn.edu> Date: Sat, 30 Jul 1994 17:17:41 GMT Message-Id: <1994Jul30.171741.6298@umr.edu> In article <3197je$ftn@netnews.upenn.edu>, Michael S. Robinson wrote: >: > >: > "At one time, IMAP was a serious against POP for the >: > remote-access E-mail protocol crown, but POP appears to have won, at >: > least for now." >: > I thought the reason POP was used so much more was simply because it had been around longer; not because of any great technological advantage. >I think the reason you're seeing this is a change in the point of reference. >You are correct that every guide to the internet mentions PINE or ELM for >mail. However, there is a huge trend towards having central servers >with many clients around thme (gee, a LAN maybe?). Anyways, POP has one >great advantage for a client/server set-up: It goes out, does what it needs >to do, then closes up shop. This cuts down greatly on any unnecessary network >traffic. It's also less overhead for the client system. Every little bit helps. > >Of course, I like IMAP better and wish it would be the reigning champ. But >POP provides better functionality for remote PC-based clients. Isn't IMAP capable of doing the same thing as POP? Namely dl all the mail, then read it locally? Or is it that the implementation of IMAP in PINE doesn't let you configure it to do that? mrc -- Mike Castle .-=NEXUS=-. Life is like a clock: You can work constantly mcastle@cs.umr.edu and be right all the time, or not work at all mcastle@umr.edu and be right at least twice a day. -- mrc We are all of us living in the shadow of Manhattan. -- Watchmen From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 31 10:47:01 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA05749; Sun, 31 Jul 94 10:47:01 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06921; Sun, 31 Jul 94 10:39:54 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from ftp.celestial.com by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA06909; Sun, 31 Jul 94 10:39:50 -0700 Received: by camco1.celestial.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #9) id m0qUetM-0003HmC; Sun, 31 Jul 94 10:41 PDT Message-Id: From: bill@celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? To: mcastle@saucer.cc.umr.edu (Michael Castle) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 10:41:44 -0700 (PDT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <1994Jul30.171741.6298@umr.edu> from "Michael Castle" at Jul 30, 94 05:17:41 pm Reply-To: bill@Celestial.COM Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA 98040 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL22] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1740 > > I thought the reason POP was used so much more was simply because > it had been around longer; not because of any great technological > advantage. > I think this whole argument is a bit ridiculous! POP and IMAP server two different needs, and are not mutually exclusive. POP is better for cases where connection bandwidth is limited and/or expensive while IMAP has significant advantages when a connection is available. It's a case of the right tool for the job. I imagine that the majority of PCs aren't connected to servers capable of supporting IMAP so people writing Windows mailers would naturally support a protocol that fit the majority of their clients. Wouldn't it make sense for someone to make PCPINE work as a POP client? This shouldn't be that difficult. I'm not very familiar with DOS/Windows mailers and am not impressed much with those I've used, but I do know that the Eudora mail client that's bundled with Locus PC-Interface plus has a program that will dial into a Unix system and handle the mail transfers by telnet'ing into the POP server to grab the mail. I haven't looked at the scripts involved, but it shouldn't be too difficult to implement. Then PCPINE could just use the local mailbox. This same technique could also be used on Unix systems that are not connected directly to an IMAP server machine or to get mailboxes from remote systems. Rather than argue which is the ``better'' technology, why not spend the effort to support both and to promote IMAP capabilities on other Mail User Agents? Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software UUCP: camco!bill 8545 SE 68th Street FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591 From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 31 12:01:03 1994 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07248; Sun, 31 Jul 94 12:01:03 -0700 Received: by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07718; Sun, 31 Jul 94 11:55:07 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu by mx2.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA07712; Sun, 31 Jul 94 11:55:05 -0700 Received: by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA20714; Sun, 31 Jul 94 11:55:02 -0700 Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 11:55:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Terry Gray To: Bill Campbell Cc: Michael Castle , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAP is a failure? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Wise-Saying: None Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 31 Jul 1994, Bill Campbell wrote: > Wouldn't it make sense for someone to make PCPINE work as a POP > client? Bill, In the future Pine will support the "fetch-and-delete" (offline) model, via IMAP, and quite probably via POP as well. Later we hope to support full disconnected operation via IMAP4, wherein the state of a client message cache can be resynchronized with the server state. -teg From owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sun Jul 31 13:58:05 1994 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu by shivams.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA09525; Sun, 31 Jul 94 13:58:05 -0700 Received: by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25718; Sun, 31 Jul 94 13:50:04 -0700 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Return-Path: Received: from rain.psg.com by mx1.cac.washington.edu (5.65+UW94.4/UW-NDC Revision: 2.30 ) id AA25712; Sun, 31 Jul 94 13:50:02 -0700 Received: by rain.psg.com (Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0qUhZD-00000AC; Sun, 31 Jul 94 13:33 PDT To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Lotus Notes: for the record Date: Sun, 31 Jul 1994 13:23:58 -0700 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Lotus Notes does not implement MIME. Lotus Notes implements something that claims to be MIME, but is not in conformance with the MIME specifications. Lotus has been informed about the problems in their implementation. There has been a report to the effect that they care enough to fix it; but only time will tell for sure. Until Lotus offers a fixed version of Lotus Notes, I recommend that people do not consider Lotus Notes to be a MIME-capable mail composer.