Date: Tue, 21 Nov 1995 22:11:21 -1000 From: ecollstr@dec5102.aarhues.dk (Esben Collstrup) Message-Id: <48ulv9$i62@esanews.denet.dk> Organization: News server at Danish Commerical Schools Subject: What has happened to The KBI Journal? Does anyone know if "The Kite Builders International Journal" is still published? I started subscribing more than a year ago and so far I have only received: vol. 2, issue 2 (Fall/Winter 1994). I have e-mailed them several times without reply, both on: kbi.ferrl@fast.net, and the old address kbi.ferrel@microserve.com Esben Collstrup --ecollstr@aarhues.dk = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 22:09:26 -1000 From: yagdp@ntx.city.unisa.edu.au (Graeme Poole) Message-Id: Organization: University of South Australia Subject: Re: What has happened to The KBI Journal? > Does anyone know if "The Kite Builders International Journal" is still >published? I started subscribing more than a year ago and so far I have >only received: vol. 2, issue 2 (Fall/Winter 1994). Good question - At least I have recieved two copies - but the last one must have been 6-9 months ago. Graeme Poole = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 04:46:30 -1000 From: neitzke@elk.miles.com (Robert C. Neitzke) Message-Id: Organization: Bayer Corporation Subject: Re: What has happened to The KBI Journal? >> Does anyone know if "The Kite Builders International Journal" is still >>published? I started subscribing more than a year ago and so far I have >>only received: vol. 2, issue 2 (Fall/Winter 1994). > >Good question - At least I have recieved two copies - but the last one must >have been 6-9 months ago. I too have wondered and when I recently placed an order with Steve I asked. I have not received a Journal since well before the Smithsonian in late March. He said that his time was consumed with his new catalog offering and that KBI Journal was next ... It's been a month an a half since I ordered that 50yd bagrain package ( which was a pretty good deal ) . No journal yet. So lets hope Steve gets back to the KBI Journal promise. It was a good idea. Kite makers don't have much of a forum outside of rec.kites ( that I know of ) Bob Neitzke = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Date: Fri, 1 Dec 1995 17:52:18 -1000 From: kerry and cheryl brown Message-Id: <49oihi$b6c@soggy.eis.net.au> Organization: eis.net - Brisbane - Australia Subject: Re: What has happened to The KBI Journal? This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------------------19677288802549 neitzke@elk.miles.com (Robert C. Neitzke) wrote: > >>> Does anyone know if "The Kite Builders International Journal" is still >>>published? I started subscribing more than a year ago and so far I have >>>only received: vol. 2, issue 2 (Fall/Winter 1994). >> >>Good question - At least I have recieved two copies - but the last one must >>have been 6-9 months ago. > >I too have wondered and when I recently placed an order with Steve I asked. >I have not received a Journal since well before the Smithsonian in late March. >He said that his time was consumed with his new catalog offering and that >KBI Journal was next ... It's been a month an a half since I ordered that >50yd bagrain package ( which was a pretty good deal ) . No journal yet. > >So lets hope Steve gets back to the KBI Journal promise. It was a good idea. >Kite makers don't have much of a forum outside of rec.kites ( that I know of ) > >Bob Neitzke > > > ---------------------------------19677288802549 From: neitzke@elk.miles.com (Robert C. Neitzke) Subject: Re: What has happened to The KBI Journal? Date: Tue, 28 Nov 1995 14:46:30 GMT Organization: Bayer Corporation Message-ID: >> Does anyone know if "The Kite Builders International Journal" is still >>published? I started subscribing more than a year ago and so far I have >>only received: vol. 2, issue 2 (Fall/Winter 1994). > >Good question - At least I have recieved two copies - but the last one must >have been 6-9 months ago. I too have wondered and when I recently placed an order with Steve I asked. I have not received a Journal since well before the Smithsonian in late March. He said that his time was consumed with his new catalog offering and that KBI Journal was next ... It's been a month an a half since I ordered that 50yd bagrain package ( which was a pretty good deal ) . No journal yet. So lets hope Steve gets back to the KBI Journal promise. It was a good idea. Kite makers don't have much of a forum outside of rec.kites ( that I know of ) Bob Neitzke ---------------------------------19677288802549-- = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: jimc@his.com Subject: Re: What has happened to The KBI Journal? Date: Wed, 29 May 1996 15:46:51 -1000 Organization: Heller Information Services, Inc. Message-ID: <4oj2b9$rh9@news2.his.com> yagdp@ntx.city.unisa.edu.au (Graeme Poole) wrote: >> Does anyone know if "The Kite Builders International Journal" is still >>published? I started subscribing more than a year ago and so far I have >>only received: vol. 2, issue 2 (Fall/Winter 1994). >Good question - At least I have recieved two copies - but the last one must >have been 6-9 months ago. >Graeme Poole So far, that's the only one I have received too. I spoke to Steve Ferrel and he said that things have been hectic for him with the production of his catalog. This is understandable, however our $20 membership should include 4 newsletters per year. Maybe we should request that our memberships be extended to make up for it!!?? = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: birdofplay@aol.com (BirdofPlay) Subject: Re: What has happened to The KBI Journal? Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 17:40:02 -1000 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Message-ID: <4olpmi$m4d@newsbf02.news.aol.com> As a subscriber and contributor to KBI journal I'm in the same boat as youz guys. Shoot, it's been weel over a year since I have received anything. I remember it was before the '95 Smithsonian thang ! Steve mentioned the catalog QUITE some time back and it's been out in it's current form for a GOOD while. Ya gotta wonder if it [ KBIJ ] was just more than he could handle. You know how easy it is to get yourself all keyed up for a thang and then it smoothers you. Kinda like e-mail and the "news" . I gotta think if he kept the editorial stuff to a min and required contributers to furnish "copy" in MS Word format on floppy then the work load would be cut WAY back to a more managable level. Frankly I'd accept a much lower level of quality than Steve had achieved. Just MHO Bob Neitzke birdofplay@aol.com http://members.aol.com/birdofplay = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: kitestudio@aol.com (Kitestudio) Subject: Re: What has happened to The KBI Journal? Date: Mon, 3 Jun 1996 18:21:41 -1000 Organization: America Online, Inc. (1-800-827-6364) Message-ID: <4p0dkl$elk@newsbf02.news.aol.com> Graeme, Bob, and all the other KBI members out there: Yes there still is a KBI and no, there has not been any journals published since volume 2, number 2. I originally thought that handling the store and writing the journal would not be a problem. However, now I find that it is. Kite Studio has grown a lot in the past five years - if I look back, It has probably grown faster and larger than any of us had originally expected. We now devote over 2,300 square feet to Kite Studio and it keeps me and the old man very busy. Dad thought he would have lots of free time when he retired but I think he is busier now - at least he is happier. There have not been many days this year that I have worked less than 12 -14 hours. I don't want to sit and type excuses but it has been busy. The past year was also a very difficult time for me - personally. I experienced some personal problems that I did not expect and am still not totally recovered from. Not being able to publish the journal really does eat at me because I still believe that it is a needed publication - it seems I get phone calls daily from beginner kite builders with questions about how to build that first stunt kite. There is a thirst for knowledge as is evident in this newsgroup - but not everyone has the ability (or willingness) to log on. The basic goal of KBI - to share information and to keep people from reinventing the wheel is still a valid goal. Do not get the impression than this is a fairwell posting to KBI. I have full intentions of getting the journals out. Everyone is still an active member. The policy was and is that a KBI membership would include four issues of the Journal. Not neccessarily in one year - but I hope to get to that schedule. I currently have an issue just about ready to let loose - but I have been hesitating because I don't want to experience another delay between issues. When I feel that I can honestly produce on an ongoing basis, the journals will come out. If I am so busy how will I accomplish this? Well, I am training new people to handle some of my Kite Studio duties, and I am enteraining the thought of having someone help in the publication - any takers? I prefer to have someone within my local area. Many have also expressed the desire for smaller journals and more of them. Maybe It's me or the perfectionist in me or maybe it's just my thick head that wants to try and keep it at 20 pages. I originally wanted to make something new and big - something I could be proud of (there are many people who feel the same about their kites), and something unlike any other newsletter out there. Maybe I should rethink that ideal. Anyway, I apologize for the silence. I really do want to get KBI alive. If anyone has questions, concerns, or ideas - please don't hesitate to call. Steve = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: Esben Gorm Collstrup Subject: Re: What has happened to The KBI Journal? Date: Thu, 30 May 1996 02:28:38 -1000 Organization: News Server at UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education. Message-ID: On Thu, 30 May 1996 jimc@his.com wrote: > yagdp@ntx.city.unisa.edu.au (Graeme Poole) wrote: > > > >> Does anyone know if "The Kite Builders International Journal" is still > >>published? I started subscribing more than a year ago and so far I have > >>only received: vol. 2, issue 2 (Fall/Winter 1994). > > >Good question - At least I have recieved two copies - but the last one must > >have been 6-9 months ago. > > >Graeme Poole > > So far, that's the only one I have received too. I spoke to Steve > Ferrel and he said that things have been hectic for him with the > production of his catalog. This is understandable, however our $20 > membership should include 4 newsletters per year. Maybe we should > request that our memberships be extended to make up for it!!?? Well, I got more or less the same answer from KBI when I e-mailed them last Fall, though at that time said he was working on the next issue. Esben -------------------------------------------------------- Esben G. 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