Date:	Wed, 22 Mar 1995 16:53:59 -1000
From:	kweber@libws1.ic.sunysb.edu (Kristin A Weber)
Message-Id: <3kqns7$n6q@adam.cc.sunysb.edu>
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Subject: 1st time Quad buyer seeks advice

Hi, 
  I'm pretty new to stunting (4 mos) and I'm interested in purchasing
a Quad-line kite.  I thought it wise to ask you kite gurus for a 
rundown on the basic models with advantages/disadvantages of each.
Post, email, or direct me to a FAQ (is there a site for kites somewhere?)
There is only one place nearby that sells stunt kites, and they don't 
know much about quads.

Thanx in advance,
bill


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Date:	Thu, 23 Mar 1995 07:16:50 -1000
From:	gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu (George W. Gilchrist)
Message-Id: <3ksae2$1tlh@nntp2.u.washington.edu>
Organization: University of Washington
Subject: Re: 1st time Quad buyer seeks advice

In article <3kqns7$n6q@adam.cc.sunysb.edu>, kweber@libws1.ic.sunysb.edu (Kristin A Weber) says:
>
>Hi, 
>  I'm pretty new to stunting (4 mos) and I'm interested in purchasing
>a Quad-line kite.  

Bill,

I'm sure you will get lots of recommendations for Revs; I've only flown 
one once and it was interesting.  I've really enjoyed my Ultra from
TC Powers.  It is a delta that is designed for four lines.  I've seen
a number of delta's fitted out for quad line, but they certainly don't
fly like my Ultra.  The kite does most of the stuff any delta can do
(although I still don't have the hang of axels with 4 lines...).  Beyond 
that, you can do some pretty cool stuff.  The kite spins at high velocity
around its midpoint. You can powerdive to inches above the ground, come 
to an immediate halt and, still nose down, slide across the wind
window.  You can take off pretty much straight into the air from any
position, including nose-down.  I think the kite is more attractive
than the Rev (in stock form...) and that the tricks look cooler. It is
pretty easy to learn 4-line flight on since if you lapse into two-line
mode, the kite behaves pretty much like a dual line kite.  The kite is
very well made; parts and service are inexpensive and quick.  

The one thing I don't like is that the factory-recommended setup 
instructions don't allow you to easily relax tension on the sail in 
between uses.  The leading edge is formed into a sharp curve by tension 
on the sail.  TC claims that it is no problem, but in fact the sail will 
stretch out a lot if you leave it under tension.  I've modifed mine 
so that it only takes about 30 sec. to tension the sail during each setup.
Unfortunately, my sail is already pretty well stretched out.  In all
fairness, it still seems to fly quite well, but it lacks the crispness
it had when new. 

I also have a Minergy (the small Guildworks tensigrity kite) that is 
a blast but quite difficult to learn on.  The big Deca Synergy is a 
great looking kite in the air and I'm sure it would also make a good 
choice. I don't think it is nearly as forgiving of poor quad line 
technique as the Ultra.

Cheers, George


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George W. Gilchrist
gilchgw@zoology.washington.edu
University of Washington
Department of Zoology
Box 351800
Seattle, WA 98l95-1800


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Date:	Fri, 24 Mar 1995 12:05:33 -1000
From:	Doug Foss <afoss@gate.net>
Message-Id: <3kvfnd$6hq@tequesta.gate.net>
Subject: Re: 1st time Quad buyer seeks advice

I learned to fly quad on a Peter Powell Omni. I learned the
hard way or rather the kite taught me the hard way. I spent
3 hours slamming into the beach the first day. That kite is
STRONG!
I now have another Omni and a Synergy-Deca UL. I fly the Omni
when the wind is up and the UL any other time.

Doug

P.S.
 
Peter Powell has changed into Caribbean Kite Company.
(305) 776-5433



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