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From: "Lorenzo M. Catucci" <lorenzo@argon.roma2.infn.it>
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Subject: Re: keyboard mapping, delete-backspace and similar problems
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> > anywhere, so that we can actually know when the thing is really
> > working?  Keybindings are a religious issue, we need something
> > non-religious to wave (or throw) to quiet the religious screams.
> 
> Ok, you're wish is my command.  Attached you'll find a pc-select.el
> that works fine.  Can someone volunteer to test it out fully for me
> who more understands the intricacies what it is SUPPOSED to do so I
>
I've just done some little testing now on a solaris system, and the
mappings seem to be working well. I think CUA specs are not designed by an
anonymous bunch of people, but directly by IBM, and then have been sold to
both M$ and OSF or win and Motif (and then CDE). The main difference
between the two releases have been the remapping of C-x, C-c, C-v to
"cut", "copy" and "paste", to mimic the "command"-[xcv] keybindings
effective on macs. Even some CDE programs (like terminal) do still use
old bindings of Shift-insert, Control-insert and shift-delete. There are
many more standard bindings, like F1 for help, C-F4 and Alt-F4 to kill a
window or an application, and so on... but the editing facilities are
those you find in pc-select, and really make you work faster, by
permitting to map movement actions to implicit selection, and permitting
longer moves.

Really, it would be a 'downgrade' for emacs to go at all to cua, but the
editing binings are useful...

Another good CUA idea is that of using Alt-letter to open a screen menu,
but it should cause harm on system with alt and without meta... if XF
people could put to some use the extar application keys of 105 keyboards,
we could have separate alt and meta keys on some more systems, and think
about that other cua issue, but I don't think it could be before a couple
of years, for 105 keys keyboards to get widspread... As a note, I have
used those keys as meta_l, meta_r and compose (aka multi_key), ad this is
the reason I discovered the strange compose behavior on linux...

Yours,


lorenzo



