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From: Martin Buchholz <mrb@Eng.Sun.COM>
To: Kazuyuki IENAGA <ienaga@metaph.jsys.co.jp>
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Subject: Re: Compiled 20.0-b30 
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>>>>> "Kazu" == Kazuyuki IENAGA <ienaga@metaph.jsys.co.jp> writes:

>> I'll appreciate the feedback.  It would actually be better testing
>> FreeBSD, since we already have lots of Linux XEmacs folks.

Kazu> I'll test it until this week end.

Thanks.

>> First of all, getting the effect you want is very easy (once you know how!):

Kazu> What i thought is i want not make the USER have to modify their
Kazu> .emacs or .Xdefaults  all  if they donot has 'sun-gothic' fonts.

If the user doesn't have some of the fonts specified in
mule-x-init.el, nothing terrible will happen, since they are simply
ignored.  Later on in the same file are fallback fonts that will be
used and should exist on any system that has any jisx* fonts at all.

>> There's still a question of which default fonts to specify in mule-x-init.el:
>> 
>> It certainly seems like "-*-fixed-medium-r-*--16-*-iso8859-1" should
>> be changed to come in size 14 instead.

Kazu> Hmmm, i think it'll be depend on the resolution and the size of
Kazu> the monitor or if one uses X server owned fonts or font server :-)

Kazu> While i prefer to use 14 point of fonts but the Mule 2.3 based on
Kazu> Emacs 19.34 default is 16.

>> I'm willing to let consensus decide what the default fonts should be -
>> but Sun's own distribution of XEmacs will use Sun-selected,
>> Sun-provided fonts.

Kazu> I agree.
Kazu> Users can select their fonts and accept the best font on their
Kazu> environment.

The default fonts are tough to choose.  Perhaps a much more
sophisticated algorithm is called for...

E.g. the user's font is 14.  So we'll use 
-*-fixed-medium-r-*--14-*-iso8859-1
or if the users font is 16, use
-*-fixed-medium-r-*--16-*-iso8859-1,
else if it's some funny size, where there aren't any mule fonts
available, then use the 14 size.  Maybe.

-- 
Martin Buchholz <mrb@eng.sun.com>
XEmacs Developer, Sun Microsystems Inc.

