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From: sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor])
Date: 24 Mar 1997 13:50:30 +0100
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>>>>> "Jens" == Jens Lautenbacher <jens@lemming0.lem.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes:

Jens> Hrvoje Niksic <hniksic@srce.hr> writes:

>> sperber@informatik.uni-tuebingen.de (Michael Sperber [Mr. Preprocessor]) writes:
>> 
>> > Problem is that the setup is so ridiculously complex that it's
>> > practically impossible to reproduce.
>> 
>> I think I see what is going on (this is pure guesswork, as I am not
>> intimate with efs).  As efs uses pty-s to open the FTP client, the
>> client is "sure" that it has the terminal for itself.
>> 
>> On any Unix other than Linux, this wouldn't be a problem.  But on
>> Linux, the default FTP client is a "nice" version[1] that uses GNU
>> readline.  Of course, it sends all kinds of control sequences that
>> destroy pure efs.
>> 
>> [good stuff deleted] 
>> 
>> I hope this helped.

This was my guess, too, when I heard about readline ftp's.  This is
evil, evil, evil.  If you want a readline ftp, get ncftp, or use
comint, or something.  This kind of stuff is one of the reasons I hate 
Linux, too.

Jens> But why does it work when I start XEmacs from an xterm or a window
Jens> manager menu or something like that?

Jens> It will not work even on the same machine in only one case: 

Jens> rsh to localhost (or any other linux machine), <export display and any
Jens> other needed stuff>, start XEmacs from this shell window.

Jens> WHY WHY WHY WHY <schnief>

Different settings of TERM?

Cheers =8-} Mike


