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To: Martin Buchholz <mrb@Eng.Sun.COM>
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Subject: Re: Compiled 20.0-b30 
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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996 11:58:18 +0900
From: Kazuyuki IENAGA <ienaga@metaph.jsys.co.jp>

> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 1996 18:22:16 -0800
> Message-Id: <199612060222.SAA03128@xemacs.eng.sun.com>
> From: Martin Buchholz <mrb@Eng.Sun.COM>
> 
> Kazu> I will test SWiM2.0 with FreeBSD 2.1.5 later soon, but not Linux
> Kazu> sorry.
> Kazu> Or has anyone tested with FreeBSD?
> 
> I'll appreciate the feedback.  It would actually be better testing
> FreeBSD, since we already have lots of Linux XEmacs folks.

I'll test it until this week end.

> >> Perhaps the `cramped output' problem can be solved by simply making
> >> sure the fonts used for jisx* and iso8859* are all the same height?
> 
> Kazu> Yes.
> Kazu> i changed lisp/mule/mule-x-init.el as following because most X
> Kazu> environments do not have 'sun-gothic'--jisx* fonts.
> Kazu> 'Misc-Fixed-Medium'--jisx* fonts are provided in X11R[56] release.
> 
> First of all, getting the effect you want is very easy (once you know how!):

What i thought is i want not make the USER have to modify their
.emacs or .Xdefaults  all  if they donot has 'sun-gothic' fonts.

> (set-face-font 'default "-misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--14-*")

Yes, i tried this.

> which are fonts with compatible sizes.
> 
> In general, the fonts specified in mule-x-init.el should not really
> matter that much, because the user should specify a font for the
> default face using (set-face-font) or appropriate X resources, and
> leave "*"s in the registry and encoding fields, so that diffferent
> physical fonts will get used for different charsets, with one font
> specification.  So don't put "iso8859-1" into your font name specifications!
> 
> There's still a question of which default fonts to specify in mule-x-init.el:
> 
> It certainly seems like "-*-fixed-medium-r-*--16-*-iso8859-1" should
> be changed to come in size 14 instead.

Hmmm, i think it'll be depend on the resolution and the size of
the monitor or if one uses X server owned fonts or font server :-)

While i prefer to use 14 point of fonts but the Mule 2.3 based on
Emacs 19.34 default is 16.

> I'm willing to let consensus decide what the default fonts should be -
> but Sun's own distribution of XEmacs will use Sun-selected,
> Sun-provided fonts.

I agree.
Users can select their fonts and accept the best font on their
environment.

-- 
Kazz

